I like to imagine the pilots had extremely large extended families, leading to entire regiments of slayers starting their career immediately after this battle and that's going to be the next engagement
@@charlesbecker934gotta love how the 2nd movie retconned the reason humanity was on Pandora to make his betrayal seem less evil, because the original reason was that we needed the unobtainanium to power reactors and starships in order to save humanity from extinction, meaning that Jake betraying humanity also dooms the Earth. Then the 2nd movie comes along and is like “nuh uh, actually humanity was there so the ultra rich could build condos.”
@@ghostrangerz8273 that's what I've always been saying. Like the humans in the first movie were trying to save their species from extinction. Also, in the books, it's stated that the Navi's goddess, Eywa, "cleanses" the planet every now and then by just killing a buncha navi. Like, nothing about these aliens is nice. They're perpetually stuck in the stone age
Legend called the first battle a mess, I think it was one of the most authentic battles you can hope for in a fantasy Total War. You ambushed the reinforcements because you put yourself in a favorable position prior to initiating the battle. You surprised the enemy scout choppers by shooting them down in the woods with the only ranged units you had. You decimated the artillery personel by being ready to sacrifice a fast unit capable of doing that. Not everything went according to plan and you couldn't utilize a powerful unit (mage) of yours. You used the numerical advantage to encircle the enemy forces and attacked from all sides at the same time, with the sturdiest units leading the charge to soak up the upfront damage. And you kept the ground forces pinned while your ranged units took out the most dangerous enemy targets, while trying to retreat damaged units after they did their job. Certainly beats corner camping, cycle charge mini games and utilizing overpower 500 range sniper regiments.
Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy battles like this but the overpowered 500 range sniper regiments is really really funny so I do enjoy them a lot as well. Regardless though, I do kinda miss how older Total war games were. I came in during Rome and Medieval 2, and they never made a game that felt the same as those. I remember one time I honestly pretty foolishly invade France with like 8 longbowmen of various types, and some spear militia, early in the game, and got attacked by a massive army of primarily French knights... However, it was in the mountains, and I set up a defensive position on top of a mountain, using the stakes to prevent them from being able to charge the front, and the spears to protect the flanks and rear, as the longbow men poured arrows into everything they could, as their arrows could hit pretty much anything downhill of them, and I got my first heroic victory despite the fact that I should have lost that army for underestimating the how big an army France could field that early in the game, and getting caught with my pants down. Everything is made too arcadey where having the 'high ground' doesn't give you the bonuses you'd expect of longer range or anything, and they're all super accurate but short ranged. I was uncertain about it in Shogun 2, but now, I am sure it made things less interesting.
@@SallinKariThe way I'd describe the battles in M2 and Rome is 'kinetic,' as opposed to newer games where everything feels simulated. The arrows, ballistae, cannonballs, and the units all have mass and impact. Collision feels real, all movement is deliberate, outcomes are decided by the impact of your decisions and not how refined your reaction time is. The games might be dated but the overall philosphy and vision of these games is timeless, and superior to the newer games.
@@connoisseurofcookies2047 Yeah, that's what I mean by arcadey. It's hitpoints and numbers. Percent block chance of shields, rather then the shield actually blocking the projectile. There was true love in all those details. Honestly the only thing that brings me to Warhammer is the fantasy elements. The baseline gameplay is inferior to the old games, but having giant monsters and wizards is cool at least. I also hate how projectiles are. They're almost always too slow, I guess to make them arc properly for the short range they have. I actually made a mod for myself that just buffed the speed of all arrows and bullets so they at least feel better.
One of my favorite parts of Gotrek and Felix is when the Spirit of Grungni is in the Chaos wastes, the Beast men try throwing their spears or just shake their fists at it. Also the Blue Horrors understand what it is and wave at it as they march towards Karak Dum
Malik when playing Order factions: Dead in 7 turns, just gets rolled, along with Ursine cult. Malik when playing Chaos/Norsca/Vamps: Goes wild with barges, artillery, high tier slayers and heroes, wipes out all of Norsca and most of NPC Chaos along with Ursine cult. Every. Time.
Just finished my first VH/VH Norsca campaign. You cannot imagine how satisfying it is to see the Masters of Innovation get their shit pushed in. I'd pay money to see it again and again 🔥
The fact that you managed to kill 2 and nearly kill all 3 in the battle was vey impressive given how strong the unit is and how little missile units you had
Love how in the Gotrek and Felix books the original Thunder Barge only survives the battles, because all enemy wizards basicly denied themselfs to throw a single fireball at it. It is also mentioned that at the battle of Prag it was filled up to the limit with explosive or highly flameable stuff, and one single fireball could kill it at any point.
Friendly-fire on Thunderbarges was the only thing that ever brought my Spirit of Grungni to critical health in my entire Malakai campaign, I summoned it on the opposite side of some lords of change from my main 3 Thunderbarges, meaning to have it tank them, and they blasted right through a LoC into the Spirit and made it route.
The title reminded me of the time when I played Empire Earth as a 12 year old, playing in modern times vs 16 stone age opponents completely destroying their wood huts with my 60 Ton Tanks with High Explosives ammuniton LMAO.
The worst is Thorgrim with unbreakable thunder barges…they never run out of ammo and will literally just shoot you until you lose or draw….i was Festus and had no air support and had to sit for 20mins and watch a barge wipe out half my army as the only unit on the field
I like this disaster battle, we had quite a few of new factions having trouble and you solving them, but if i remember correctly, it's the first disaster showing how did the new factions impact OTHER, existing ones. Having Malakai next tou you as Norsca seems to be a pain if you let him develop
I'm literally soloing entire siege battles with the Spirit of Grungi alone Once I tear their ranged units apart, it's becomes Vietnam real quick, except with an actual win.
lmao, me in my current archaon campaign, damn dwarfs are litteraly soloiing enitire armies with those. the best moment was an autoresolve where my shitty garrison just took out 2 thunderbarges and ungrimm
But the green bar is much bigger than the red bar in the power comparison. Maybe the dwarves have better economy but not better army after they got smashed in this vid
Player, if you have Surtha Kek... ... Give him a chariot spam!!! (With some heroes, or you will suffer during sieges) In this case it could be very good because when all the dwarven infantry and artillery were defeated, thunderbarges were going to surrender.
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- Uh, uh, they have too may boonga! We run!
- No! Oonga smart, Oonga have a plan! We throw sticks at them, they die!
And that f0king worked))
"Stick very good!" -Shadiversity
- And after that we learn to make wa-
and thus another cav *cough* norsmen tinkers head imploded
That cool stick!
if you're the freaking fourth cousin of one of those airship pilots that got killed by sticks you're taking the slayer oath.
I like to imagine the pilots had extremely large extended families, leading to entire regiments of slayers starting their career immediately after this battle and that's going to be the next engagement
@@khamulthewack4732Slayer stacks versus Berserker stacks?
At least it’ll be a propa scrap.
This is the most lore accurate Makkaisson battle. He probably named them the "Forever Floaty", "Unvincible 2," and "Immune to sticks".
@@cypressz 1) Indestructible
2) Unshakeable.
3) Inflammable.
The plot of Avatar if there was no magical flying monsters
Jake Sully really betrayed his own race for some alien strange
lmao
@@charlesbecker934 he did it for that alien hairussy
@@charlesbecker934gotta love how the 2nd movie retconned the reason humanity was on Pandora to make his betrayal seem less evil, because the original reason was that we needed the unobtainanium to power reactors and starships in order to save humanity from extinction, meaning that Jake betraying humanity also dooms the Earth.
Then the 2nd movie comes along and is like “nuh uh, actually humanity was there so the ultra rich could build condos.”
@@ghostrangerz8273 that's what I've always been saying. Like the humans in the first movie were trying to save their species from extinction. Also, in the books, it's stated that the Navi's goddess, Eywa, "cleanses" the planet every now and then by just killing a buncha navi. Like, nothing about these aliens is nice. They're perpetually stuck in the stone age
Isolated tribe's first meeting with a thunder barge! *(GONE WRONG!)*
Nah nah its gone *EXACTLY RIGHT*
GONE SEXUAL
Thunderbarges are nothing if you have experience in Bloons Tower Defense
Monkey King gonna be the bane of any endgame Dwarf army
Moab ptsd
@@angun703 Nah Moabs are nothing compared to BADs and DDTs
Just buy a moab assassin ggez
@@theunknown4834 just get a paragon frfr
Ahhh so this is why, in Civilization 6, when I use my helicopter against a slinger, the helicopter dies
*cue the Tarriff chimpanzee screeching*
lmfao
sad monky noises
so true. Or maybe forming a tower with butt ladders to board the thunderbarges.
monkey noises and baloon tower defense meme.
Howdy there, Redneckkratos! Say there...... you sure do have a ........................ purdy personality ;)
Uunga and friends chuck lots of spear at Fat sky bird. Fat sky bird falls on ground. This makes Uunga and friends very happy.
Cavemen throwing sticks at Airships.
Flaming sticks vs The Hindenburg, colorized.
Also airships throwing bigger sticks at cavemen.
Surtha Ek, the legendary lord we never got, but is a legend on his own, shows that Norsca is no place for Dwarves
I love that Surtha Ek and Setra have a special legendary lord perks for defeating each other in a battle to becoming the true chariot giga chad.
@@gharn2594 the real chariot gigachad is Grom
Somehow everyone loves the guy.
This video really does make the end times seem like a heroic victory by the underdogs.
"Cavemen together strong, enemy divided good" - Norsca saying
Not a single phone in sight, just unga bungas living for the moment.
Legend called the first battle a mess, I think it was one of the most authentic battles you can hope for in a fantasy Total War. You ambushed the reinforcements because you put yourself in a favorable position prior to initiating the battle. You surprised the enemy scout choppers by shooting them down in the woods with the only ranged units you had. You decimated the artillery personel by being ready to sacrifice a fast unit capable of doing that. Not everything went according to plan and you couldn't utilize a powerful unit (mage) of yours. You used the numerical advantage to encircle the enemy forces and attacked from all sides at the same time, with the sturdiest units leading the charge to soak up the upfront damage. And you kept the ground forces pinned while your ranged units took out the most dangerous enemy targets, while trying to retreat damaged units after they did their job.
Certainly beats corner camping, cycle charge mini games and utilizing overpower 500 range sniper regiments.
Yeah, that's real total war tactics from real Legend, cos his main face is not cheesy rat, but expirienced battlefield commander ;)
Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy battles like this but the overpowered 500 range sniper regiments is really really funny so I do enjoy them a lot as well. Regardless though, I do kinda miss how older Total war games were. I came in during Rome and Medieval 2, and they never made a game that felt the same as those. I remember one time I honestly pretty foolishly invade France with like 8 longbowmen of various types, and some spear militia, early in the game, and got attacked by a massive army of primarily French knights... However, it was in the mountains, and I set up a defensive position on top of a mountain, using the stakes to prevent them from being able to charge the front, and the spears to protect the flanks and rear, as the longbow men poured arrows into everything they could, as their arrows could hit pretty much anything downhill of them, and I got my first heroic victory despite the fact that I should have lost that army for underestimating the how big an army France could field that early in the game, and getting caught with my pants down. Everything is made too arcadey where having the 'high ground' doesn't give you the bonuses you'd expect of longer range or anything, and they're all super accurate but short ranged. I was uncertain about it in Shogun 2, but now, I am sure it made things less interesting.
@@SallinKariThe way I'd describe the battles in M2 and Rome is 'kinetic,' as opposed to newer games where everything feels simulated.
The arrows, ballistae, cannonballs, and the units all have mass and impact. Collision feels real, all movement is deliberate, outcomes are decided by the impact of your decisions and not how refined your reaction time is.
The games might be dated but the overall philosphy and vision of these games is timeless, and superior to the newer games.
@@connoisseurofcookies2047 Yeah, that's what I mean by arcadey. It's hitpoints and numbers. Percent block chance of shields, rather then the shield actually blocking the projectile. There was true love in all those details. Honestly the only thing that brings me to Warhammer is the fantasy elements. The baseline gameplay is inferior to the old games, but having giant monsters and wizards is cool at least. I also hate how projectiles are. They're almost always too slow, I guess to make them arc properly for the short range they have. I actually made a mod for myself that just buffed the speed of all arrows and bullets so they at least feel better.
@@SallinKariI’m pretty sure that’s just… actually what happened historically, agencort if I recall, but I don’t know exactly.
"Norscan life" at its finest.
19:45 "Those Norscans seem to like their harpoons, let's show them our variant"
Reminds me of that Futurama episode where Zapp brings his big army ship against cavemen and loses.
Malakai: Innovation is what kept us alive all this time!
Surtha Ek: Hold my ale.
The pinnacle of dwarven engineering taken out by cavemen chucking sharp sticks.
Every once in a while we get a battle like this where Legend shows absolute mastery and creativeness. Always a great watch
Finally, the time monkes with sticks go snatching some civilized stunties' balloons.
One of my favorite parts of Gotrek and Felix is when the Spirit of Grungni is in the Chaos wastes, the Beast men try throwing their spears or just shake their fists at it. Also the Blue Horrors understand what it is and wave at it as they march towards Karak Dum
Just aim at the big balloon with the pointy sticks to pop it and make the thunderbarge fall 4head
Cavemen Big Brain thinkin' !
still cant make walls
ABC: Always Bget Clightningstrike.
Yeah, it can get you out of some really sticky situations. Always regret it massively when I don't get it but need it
Malik when playing Order factions:
Dead in 7 turns, just gets rolled, along with Ursine cult.
Malik when playing Chaos/Norsca/Vamps:
Goes wild with barges, artillery, high tier slayers and heroes, wipes out all of Norsca and most of NPC Chaos along with Ursine cult.
Every. Time.
just player Greasus, Ursine cult went absolutely crazy while Malik died on turn 30. How perfectly fitting for the Ogres.
what
Ooo AAA AAAH!!!
Norscan for, *“BIG BANANA FLY!!”*
*Norscan Spear-chukers, spear-chuck!*
It's easy to take out Thunderbarges as Norsca, you just need to have guys with really good throwing arms.
Just finished my first VH/VH Norsca campaign. You cannot imagine how satisfying it is to see the Masters of Innovation get their shit pushed in. I'd pay money to see it again and again 🔥
Today in the Karak-news: Monkey with spear destroys a blimp
The fact that you managed to kill 2 and nearly kill all 3 in the battle was vey impressive given how strong the unit is and how little missile units you had
Surtha Ek should have just charged off the cliff into the Thunderbarge using his Chariot of the Dark Gods
That title really hits Top Gear nostalgia. It sounds exactly like something Clarkson would announce at the start of some episode.
A man with a plan, the plan is to push as hard as he can!
Awooga boog, airgrunk. Grooga grug. Counter-grug, throw javeloogs. Booga. *beats chest*
Love how in the Gotrek and Felix books the original Thunder Barge only survives the battles, because all enemy wizards basicly denied themselfs to throw a single fireball at it.
It is also mentioned that at the battle of Prag it was filled up to the limit with explosive or highly flameable stuff, and one single fireball could kill it at any point.
Irl airships are so stupid that Hindenberg was one of the most successful ones
Marauders
Together
Strong
Legends luck on one side:
Minimal amounts of magic.
On another:
Thunderbarges heavily damage each other.
The campaign was NOT in vein. victory was achieved by my buddy.
This is a certified legend classic
this was so beautiful to watch!! Hannibal would have been impressed by this!
Friendly-fire on Thunderbarges was the only thing that ever brought my Spirit of Grungni to critical health in my entire Malakai campaign, I summoned it on the opposite side of some lords of change from my main 3 Thunderbarges, meaning to have it tank them, and they blasted right through a LoC into the Spirit and made it route.
"going up against the Masters of Innovation"
Kick their ass, Malakai.
Wulfric : My challenge ? Undeniable.
I like how the Thunderbarge burst into flames. Like, what was in those sticks????!!!!
Those few seconds at 19:45 were stressful and hilarious af. 😂
Legend video thumbnails turning into Tariff thumbnails
I just hear the music from Tarrif's videos - You Shook Me All Night Long (PALEOROCK CLASSIC). It fits perfectly.
Hm... monke vs airships. Holy-moly, this is literally Bloons TD6
I love how they are army-lossed, but the thunder barge doesn't even shatter
I like almost every Disaster battle, but this one was really really good.
After this battle there's little doubt in my mind that legend is in fact the changer of ways.
Which one is more impressive for Norscan?
I kill a ice dragon vs I kill a Thunderbarge.
Reject airships, return to monke.
I actually had no idea that your position on the campaign map affects where the forces show up in the battle. I suppose it makes sense though.
When you are on the receiving end against your favorite DLC LL.
This vid demonstrates how the pathing on the world map can get so cluttered
Monkeys vs Balloons?
I think I played that game growing up.
Just hand out darts to all ye bois and watch the carnage unfold.
Hey I didn't know Legend played Civilization.
the javelins did a genuinely surprising amount of damage
Cavemen: RAAWWRRRR 👹
Something tells me Legend has managed to do the impossible in this video…
Tribal people react to seeing airships for the first time
"But Legend, you love blobbing!"
- Not in THIS situation.
GRUG GANG!!!
Stunties iffy, huh, Wulfrik got the sticky, uh
Tarriff long has prophesied about this moment
YOU MOVE THE REINFORMENT WHERE THEY COME IN NEVER JNEW THAT
Is that some Tariff lore in the title?
Monke screams intensifies
A bit like the spearmen in Civilization taking out battleships 😅
The title reminded me of the time when I played Empire Earth as a 12 year old, playing in modern times vs 16 stone age opponents completely destroying their wood huts with my 60 Ton Tanks with High Explosives ammuniton LMAO.
Just bloody brilliant, why legend is a legend
The worst is Thorgrim with unbreakable thunder barges…they never run out of ammo and will literally just shoot you until you lose or draw….i was Festus and had no air support and had to sit for 20mins and watch a barge wipe out half my army as the only unit on the field
I like this disaster battle, we had quite a few of new factions having trouble and you solving them, but if i remember correctly, it's the first disaster showing how did the new factions impact OTHER, existing ones. Having Malakai next tou you as Norsca seems to be a pain if you let him develop
I would've had a field day as the dwarfs.
This is a grudgin!
An absolute masterpiece of cheese… I’ll need my lactase tablets now but it war amazing
Amazing strategy, truly the greatest strategic mind
It's hilarious how OP Thunderbarges are
Loving this EU4 gameplay, great stuff
me and the boys at tech 20 pressing the sword button on uncolonized land
I'm literally soloing entire siege battles with the Spirit of Grungi alone
Once I tear their ranged units apart, it's becomes Vietnam real quick, except with an actual win.
great background music for this video : AC/BC - You Shook Me All Night Long (PALEOROCK CLASSIC)
That title had me in tears for some reason XD
Interesting, thanks.
Sometimes you swish/swash the mouse quickly across the screen.. e.g. around 19:23. Why? What is the purpose of that?
this is like a more badass chess puzzle
24:25 noice
i laughed so fucking hard cause i was literally just waiting for something like this to happen lmao
Oogaa Boogaa vs "Kirov Reporting"
This was a great battle! Would love to see you accept modded battles (SFO, Lost calm, Old world etc)
Honestly Norscan javelinmen are very very powerful against large units. They won me many a battle in my Norscan campaign back in WH2
You are getting ever closer, with everyday to being Tarriff, Mr Legend.
liked right away just for the title alone
lmao, me in my current archaon campaign, damn dwarfs are litteraly soloiing enitire armies with those. the best moment was an autoresolve where my shitty garrison just took out 2 thunderbarges and ungrimm
Tariff should make a video about this
Ooga booga
27:11 "You're way stronger than them."
Am I missing something because I'm seeing Dwarves in 12th place and Wulfric in 24th o____o
But the green bar is much bigger than the red bar in the power comparison. Maybe the dwarves have better economy but not better army after they got smashed in this vid
@@fartz3808 Aight so I did miss something ty ^^
Turn 71... My fucking god.
Trust Grok. Grok have plan.
Player, if you have Surtha Kek...
... Give him a chariot spam!!! (With some heroes, or you will suffer during sieges)
In this case it could be very good because when all the dwarven infantry and artillery were defeated, thunderbarges were going to surrender.
The video title is hilarious 😂