TAMURKHAN AND KAYZK IS A NIGHTMARE TO DEFEAT
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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Plot twist: the "shy" friend is Zerkovich
Haha.
Nice!
Why Zerkovich?
Pffff. Zerkovich would NEVER be caught playing nasty elves.
Zerkovich never plays legendary lol
That's why he was to shy... to admit he actually plays elves
As someone who is currently also playing Knights of Caledor, I can indeed confirm that elves' fatal weakness is getting into contact with any pathogens whatsoever.
Elvish healthcare is based on herbs, crystals, and astrology. Obviously, even a minor cold is gonna dumpster them.
Ally with the dwarves, get Iron Drakes.
Fire is a good answer to pathogens.
@@andregon4366 But I thought elves were meant to rely on dragons for all their fire needs?
@@viewingstuf5782 add the Iron Drakes to the dragons for more fire.
Just set everything on fire. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
One small tip for new players.
At the end half of the battle. You can press space bar to see each units fatigue. Fatigue affects units' performance like the change to hit and dodge.
Try to charge in with fresh unit to engage the remaining enemies, and pull out those exhausted units, including hero, for them to rest and recover fatigue.
I would say fatigue doesn't matter that much for 90% of the battles. Because most of the time using exhausted units to surround the enemy to make them lose morale and flee is much better than standing still to recover fatigue. That is, most of the battles you usually aim to destroy enemy's morale for "Army Loss".
But for a grinding battle like this, where the remaining enemies are high armor high health Single Entity, or unbreakable units. Recover Fatigue matters A LOT because better fatigue means better chance to actually hit the enemy and decrease its life pool. Recover Fatigue is especially important for high attack/defense/damage Load/Hero/SEM like the High Elf Nobel here because its fatigue penalty is calculated in percentage.
Sorry for pool English.
When the Warhammer 2 power creep, meets the Warhammer 3 Power Creep.
every new faction gets an ikit claw nuke! it's getting old really fast lol
@@Andreas-x4j when was the last one that got an ikit claw nuke
@@Ziflin Ikit Claw
Edit: The Changeling also gets a single doomrocket but I don't think the AI does for him
@@Ziflinone the same level as the nuke, none. Having a op unit then was the chaos dwarf.
@Ziflin i guess gelt can kinda get one now and elspeth can kinda get one now
10:14 "Ok, good.. we got Tamurkhan's attention.."
those elves thinking, "Have we not yet done enough for Lothern my Lord :( ????"
I love how a few unlucky Lothern Sea Guard got LITERALLY FLATTENED by Tamurkan's death.
"Why do people find me intimidating?" - a guy called Legend of Total War, who somehow won this battle
He wasn't much of a threat till he started growing that venerable beard.
1:45 dudes life flashed before his eyes
legend starting to sound more and more like a dad
xD
Yep. Soon, the dad jokes will start as the stress of raising a child starts to set in around the time the kiddo starts walking....head first into trouble.
I love how Tamurkhan gone down relatively quickly, but then Kayzk just persisted through the whole battle and was as much of a pain as he could.
Kazyk is unreasonably powerful. So is Tamurkhan, stronger than Kholek on his toad dragon easily, but at least he is an LL. Kazyk is just a worldbeater for no reason, he could duel Tyrion or Archaon too even if those guys had all their legendary items.
@@Grivehn its a legendary hero. Kroak is insane, Ariel is insane, Ghorritch is quite insane, etc.
@@FrenkieWest32 Two of those are very important lore characters + some of the powerful and ancient mages lorewise. Ghoritch isnt even that good, aside from his spin which is for anti-infantry. And not half as good as Kazyk.
Kazyk is a nobody in comparison with less than a page of lore. He outperforms Tamurkhan himself until the maggot lord gets his toad dragon.
Its as if any 'villain of the week' bad guy from Gotrek and Felix novels was made into the game and could go toe to toe with the best. And I dont mean the likes of Arek Deamonclaw who actually led an entire Chaos horde and had super special epic armor. But say one of his subordinates, who wasnt even important in the book he was in. Thats what Kazyk is in comparison.
@@Grivehn complaining that total war warhammer is not lore accurate is pointless. Half the heroes and lords do not make a lick of sense. Ghoritch is not weaker than Kayzek either.
@@FrenkieWest32 A half army of high elves had the same balance of power as Kazyk and another hero. He can kill a dozen heroes per battle and live, or sit in spears forever. He's busted.
Much like Thunderbarges, very nice and dandy as long as you have it, but as the literal title of this video suggests, a nightmare to go up against. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
The surviving Elves are definitely going to need to take several long showers followed by a long bath after this battle.
The one thing I don't like about Nurgle in the Warhammer fantasy setting is that...well, it's like medieval to pike and shot era depending on which human locality you frequent. We are WAY removed from penicillin.
Anyone coming into contact with nurgle's army would just die die
@@blugger you forget one important bits, MAGIC
Tamurkhan is a nightmare to face. I had a better army than the one here (Sisters of Avelorn, a level 22 Life Archmage, a Fire mage, a Handmaiden, Silverin Guard as frontline meatshields, couple of Star Dragons and couple of artillery pieces), I ambushed him, and I spent like three hours playing and restarting before finally ragequitting and auto-resolving. The worst part was that I nearly won every single time but Level 47 Tamurkhan himself just wouldnt be dealt with and no matter how many times I killed his units he would survive.
And thanks to his non existent wound timer Tamurkhan will just come back literally the next turn
My army consist of 6 phoenix guard, 5 sister , 2 dragon princess and 4 star dragon but without imrik its still pretty hard to beat tamurkhand army
You just described my night last night.
You just have to focus fire Tamurkhan. If you focus all your sisters on him he gets wrecked very quickly
Hey shy guy, i would definately not be able to win this either haha.
19:20 Kazyk and the arch mage are so fast 😂
Me trying to escort a random woman so she get home safely (i don't why she's running)
The worst thing about tamukhran is he is gonna be back next turn
with all his OP bs heros and RORs
Its funny, that some random Empire mage (Espeth) manages to make amulet that perma kills the Tamurkhan in the book, but Elf Archmage in game cant kill him for more turns than one.
@@BlazeFlame24she made the mistake of not being a named character in GW lore, that is why lol.
Yeah
Ruined my campaign because he cameback immediately after I used all my resources to beat him once
@@BlazeFlame24 to be fair Elspeth is a bit more than just “some random empire mage” lol
Let's play unhygenic brutes vs. pristine elves!
Honestly, the beginning of this video was so nice and really highlights why you are my favorite Warhammer content creator. Have a great day sir!
Tamurkhan is still nightmare to defeat in low level too.
I destroyed a similar army with Tamurkhan, who ambushed me, with one of my dwarven air fleets.
As someone who's sent in a rejected save file, I can say you definitely shouldn't be scared to send them in. Legend is a really respectful guy
17:10 I think that's a compliment for nurgle worshipers
Def it is lol
I had a battle very similar to this. I was Northern Provinces, with a mid-game full stack and a sizable garrison. Tamarkhan went down pretty quick - crane gunners and great cannons were fantastic at that. But literally a pyrrhic victory due to kazyk. Dude ran around the entire battle and destroyed everything he got into. Not only was he hard to pin down, but he was very hard to kill.
20:23
Elf mage : "Unlimited power"
Legend: shit I'm out of magic
Some elite disaster battles lately. I wouldn't even bother trying this looking at the initial menu
I beat him on my own campaign, had every unit routed except the spirit of grungni which somehow managed to stay alive long enough to trigger the army loss penalty and give me the victory. Surprisingly despite technically dying, Malakai Makaisson, Gotrex, and Felix, didn’t go into wounded status and I was able to go burn down that entire burgle faction over the following turns. I also dealt with Archeon the Everchosen and destroyed that faction but the demon prince faction came in and started taking the ruins in the chaos wastes behind me so now I gotta go deal with him before I can fight chaos dwarves and goblins to my south.
I always sell the wastes to Boris (if he's still alive) or an allied Kislev, or even Sigvald since being chaos aligned doesn't bring that many grudges...
@@maxpont8989 yeah I had gotten caught up fighting Wolfrik, so I may try selling it to another Kislev as they look like they are finally ready for a push north past me to fight chaos.
How TF is that a valiant defeat in Auto-resolve? Should be a crushing defeat looking at the units...
Tamurkhan had no ranged units (except the dwarf) and damaged single entities, while lothern sea guard are hybrid infantry that count basically for 2 units in auto-resolve. So over-valued elves vs under-valued tamurkhan
Auto resolve takes into account ammunition...which archers have plenty of. Lothern Sea Guard are also hybrid units with anti large which is taken into account.
Crushing defeat means you have the balance of power advantage. It's the opposite of Heroic Victory, which requires you to overcome significant odds.
@@maxpont8989 It's true, and Don't forget Chosen which get overvalued because of their stats and armor, but then a single hit from an artillery piece and they're at 70 percent.
Fantastic job. Using every bit of value where you could. Loved watching that battle 👍
8:57 Legend said "understandably" at the exact same time as the elf saying "understood"
"I need you to turn around and shoot at them"
"Don't worry about those Rot Flies"
Does Legend have multiple personalities?
He split his mind into multiple parts to micro more efficiently
@@goztboy Such a strong alar
Purge the chaos with our asur divinity! And tons of magic soap...
Honor to the Noble on horseback, the most underrated hero in the game.
I never take him on an eagle because he’s an amazing duelist and helps quite a bit on taking on large singke entities and characters. Flying can be taken cared off by other units.
Tamurkhan literally pulled a "Did I leave my oven on?!" moment
Imrik on his dragon is also a nightmare to defeat in campaign
Hey Legends, when will we get Empire and Nurgle units tier list ? I am looking forward to it.
It seems the Maggot Lord is valued more than a few actual maggots.
This situation really shows how troop numbers don't count when fighting superior tiers/troops. You had much more troop count but nearly lost! Good job saving this nightmare Legend!
Indeed. My not even max level Gor Rok ground through a full 20 stack of zombies and skeleton archers and had nothing but a few skinks, granted, it is Gor Rok
I just bought warhammer and have been playing as karaz a Krack and the maggot host was able to control the entirety of the Cathyen mountains as well as most of the eastern chaos wastes. He was one turn recruiting 20 stacks and every time I killed him he would be back next turn. I ended up created a tamrakan hunting force using Thorgrim the legendary slayer hero 8 giant slayers 5 doomseekers which were already pre recruited and 5 gyro bombers to clear out most of the infantry.
That was a great battle.
Would it not have been possible to withdraw, after the ammo ran out and wait for them to attack again?
Tamrukan is so stupidly OP.
Good
@@markcollins2704 yayyy i love power creep
@@SamTheApe there is no way he is more overpowered than Kroak or Teclis or Malus or Skarbrand or Noctilus or Taurox, etc.
Is it the blackarks that are slowing down the game in later turns? I was wondering what the hell is going on lol im playing a gor rok campaign im in the 80's for turns and for malekith and morathi the end turns take forever. Not morathi as much now, she had taking the entire donut but shes down to her last settlement finally, but yeah she had at least 10 blackarks if not more.
Yes, they are.
Killing dark elves has become mandatory in my campaigns.
Current patch has made it a little bit better, but it is still bad lategame.
Couldn't ask for a better lieutenant than Kayzk. 😂
@LegendofTotalWar Man, you are sitting on half a mil subs. Why you won't reach out to a pc company and get a sponsorship deal for a turbo pc blaster? Definitely can work something out! Thanks for the vid ✌️
Considering a lot of people visit the r/totalwar subreddit looking for PC's that can play Warhammer, @LegendofTotalWar can offer 2-3 builds for $1000, $1500, $2000 to play Total War game @ 1080p, 1440p and 4K resolutions.. Win-Win-(Win (I Win as well))
(Michael Scott's book of Business 😁))
I've been watching for years mate. And I'm Impressed 👍
ive learnt to respect tamurkhan a lot and either rush to defeat him if i start near or pay someone else to feud with him so i can set up an ambush of proper strength to deal with him, dlc powers are high in this one
I just tried a battle against Tamurkhan as Archaon in a coop campaign with some friends last night and we almost won but the heroes just proved too much to get rid of. Im still pretty new to the game so I probably have nothing close to a good setup. Autoresolve said a Pyrrhic victory where I lose pretty much all my high tier stuff but win. Its a lightly modded campaign (warband ultimate and 2 skills per lvl) so I figure you dont want to bother with that but is it worth just taking the autoresolve there? He’s down to only a couple settlements that he just took so I figure it would take awhile for him to build up again.
I am just some rando, but here's advice: if he's not an urgent threat and you can avoid the battle at first, find a way to make better odds. A smaller army for reinforcements, an Ambush, whatever. Otherwise, try the battle with some new tactics. Identify the parts that are a problem and find a way to either circumvent or ignore them.
As warriors of Chaos you have some of the most Op heroes yourself in the game too. Since you only have Meele except in rare circumstances, Archaon, the Aspiring Champions he boosts and the other heroes you have will be enough to beat his heroes. Equip tormentor swords and helms of discord too. Try also getting those ROR Tzeench Halberd Aspiring Champions. Also you can dedicate a champion to nurgle and he will have 3 Group heals, locusts of fecundity that you can use to heal everyone around them.
The long load times are specific to your storage SSD. The new SSD NVMe's like the WD Black SN850x make load times 10 seconds or less. Hugely nice for TWH3.
Haha , says at 17:00 minutes "I think I got this" look at video timer says 32 minutes....... thinking that might have been a little premature. 🙂 Great battle sir
What is that bomb ability? I fought him and didn't see it but it wasn't in his territory.
In a situation right now where I've beaten most of my enemies and in map cleanup right now and every turn Tamurkhan has come back with a full stack. I know he just has like 1 turn recovery time and he's replacing other lords but it really feels like this guy is unstoppable.
i watched your Melekith one man doomstack and heard you talk about how the Warhammer 2 AI was better, did your opinion change?
Another masterclass by the Legend himself
I actually just finished my Imrik campaign and had quite a bit of trouble with Tamurkhan. Of course, nothing a bit of Sisters of Averlorn spam couldn't fix. It's a shame it takes forever to get them.
New comp, that's pretty awesome. Are you going to build it or have them do it?
My friend was in a similar situation with nearly exact same army.
I haven’t watched the video because I don’t have time but I agree with the title. I had to fight them down with two mid-high tier dwarf armies and the monstrous cav and the lord make him a for to be reckoned with.
"Not currently accepting Realm of Chaos campaigns/battles" =(
My Kostaltyn campaign will never be save))
This intro warmed my heart.
And also important is TM will also auto-kill a hero or Lord when he dies and then revive himself. Really hard to kill him and to not have a lord or hero near him while fighting. Dang.
Hey Legend, would be cool if you showed us your new PC, ;)
He did not like Trollhammer torpedoes😂
Tamurkahn delcared war on me, I couldnt autoresilve and while I did win i lost most of my army and my heroes he is a total freakin nightmare.
I faced the two early on in my current campaign and it was very hard, I had good units but they just destroyed my formations and it took 2 of my armies and auto resolve to defeat him.
My first Campaign after ToD ( obviously with Franz XD) Tamurkhan took over everything from Cathay to Kislev.
He attacked me with 5 armys and i was able to defeat all of tgem with just Franz army with a bit of luck and god campaign positioning.
But Tamurkhan himself.....bruh i got crushed by his main army vs mine.
I tried to get him killed atleast and some of his heroes ( all level 35+) but only managed to get him just to be surprised him returning next round....
It costs me 5 armys ( all mixed crap to late game) to finalöy stop him.
What a campaign 😂
"It defintely cost Tamurkhan a lot" (He will be back next turn)
I wonder if CA ever fixes the black arks problem.
Tariff is 300 subscribers away from 100k show him some love to guys let's get him that plaque!
Late game Tamurkhan with his stack of chieftans is so absolutely damn strong.
Never saw him. Somehow in all of my Campaigns Grimgor kills him or someone else early on.
@@Tallborn5 Yeah early game Nurgle is a struggle especially for AI but mid to late game Tamurkhan with full chieftain stack just wipe the floor with anyone.
As someone who has high ego, and don't like getting help from others even if Ineed to, cause from a young age Ive tried soo hard by myself only to conquer any challenges the life has given to me, I would be also very shy to send to you a save from my game. I don't want to get critisized bad from my favorite youtube total war content creator!
Loved the interesting tactics in this one
Hmm, on turn 40+ go against Tamurkhan with basic archers? Ambitious...
I genuinely think Kayzk is a bigger pain then Tamurkhan. He is unbreakable and nearly unkillable, plus small and really fast so super difficult to kill with range
In my Imrik game it was thankfully my LL Imrik facing Tammy. I had him solo the army and was doing great until a random routing rot knight found my archers hiding in the forest and he dropped his stupid aoe nuke on all of my infantry. Was so annoyed lol
That noble is a real one
im gonna send in my disater battle soon :( skarbrand is bullying my poor queen skellyton
This guy feels like he is bad cause he can't win an outnumbered fight on legendary, meanwhile I get rolled by Throt or Azhag as Kislev on normal lol
Nah dawg if I ever submitted a disaster battle or save I just know I’d get roasted for all the decisions I made in the campaign (talking about you Bittersteel)
27:05 AYO?!
beat my meat to i... I mean beat me to it
I hate those nurgle fart nukes. The amount of battles I've restarted because I forgot about them
I feel like the thamurkhan bot is kinda overpowered. Playing a Grimgork campaign and in turn 25 Thamurkhan declared war on me. He had 4 of his champions, thamurkhan lvl 23 with 14000 health and just defeated his early game enemy. Other factions that had more settlements had 10 lvls less on their legendary lord.
Managed to autoresolve with 2 fullstacks+34 wharg units.
In my game bot thamurkhan did nothing, just sat in the north because he simply became buddies with everyone around him because they all disliked the good factions. IDK why but that always happens in the north for me, only thing that changes is Sigvald invading Alith Anar and Valkia invading Naggarond everytime. But Epidemius, The Prince, Archaon, and Tamurkhan are super passive. They also have a friendly Chaos Dwarf faction on their east border.
@@Klongu_Da_Bongu he was actually passive he killed the undevided faction there and then he sat there but somehow was lvl 23 with four of his heros and that combined was actually kinda nasty killing a 14k legendary lord with earlygame trash stacks.
Plz legend 1440p and 4k videos now plz
Tamurkhan just rolled up with three terrifying stacks and ruined my Gelt campaign right after I beat grimgor, nearly 100 turns burned down after he decided he didn't like that I took out Kugath.
TAMURKHAN easy to kill because is a really big and fat target, perfect for archers, the heroes on the other side are small and hard to shoot while they're super strong on their own with their equipment and unique skills
most useful 1 meele ror has ever ben lol
Despite being on a mount, Kayzk can just be launched into groups and he'll live. I couldn't get him to die even if I tried. He'll tie up and kick the shit out of cavalry.
That's one for the books :-D
It’s simple. Thunderbarges hard counter them in my dwarf campaign.
Wait til the Black Knight goes over to them "Tis a scratch just a flesh wound" Kind sir thats one scarey toad rider.. "Would it help if we run away some more is what wed do and beg imrik for a dragon
I gave up my helves campaign because of this guy, just couldn't beat him. Swear to god the bombs I faced were 3x the size
That was the cheeziest closest battle I think I've seen.
In Shugun 2 Total War Legend had a battle and He won with one or two guys who left on the battlefield.... many years ago
"where's my ammo at" you probably used like 75% of it killing the toad dragon lol.
CA's real new strategy:
1. Pick 3 random factions
2. Make them OP AF
3. Profit
honestly figured you were actually going to loose this one, high elf units a little op in this one!!!
Caseoh regenerating, unbreakable and hard to kill? Sounds about right
Tamurkan be like: SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND, KAYZK! *proceeds to get shot by thousands of elven arrows and dies*
Kayzk: *Scoffs* This is about to be easy! *Kills 250+ elves and has to be grinded down for several minutes*
i mean, if you watch the old legend of total war videos, he's a straight up comedic asshole. He's change a lot for sure though, props.
he's way bigger than years past too... no more ending videos with the classic "see ya fkers!" .. way better for his youtube flow id wager
and he just seems happier now, but that's pure speculation and armchair psychology on my part lol... but i do remember when he used to seem so bitter at times, and would also take breaks from streaming due to that.
seems like a good dude
@@H41030v3rki110ny0u i hope he is happy but likely he just has to catch his tongue at every turn or CA and some kids on reddit will freak out
Thanks for the video
Why not ask some online pc builder company to give you one? For a shout out
in my two campaigns first round zlatan killed him early on, second chad boris killed both him and archaon so I never had to fight him
Gyrocopter spam laughing at this challenge
I just finished a Kislev campaign and Tamurkhan was the biggest problem in it. The fact he could die one turn and come back the next made everything worse.
doesn't that just make him easy/fast to trait farm?
@@diazinth If he didn't instantly make an army for himself, sure.
@@LordSavok that means you can use it to farm xp for new armies and leaders, while farming the trait, increase your power rating and have it all paid for with loot money? Maybe even have some profit for new buildings. ;)
@@diazinth All well and good if he wasn't ripping through my armies every time. His sprawling empire meaning he'd turn up wherever he liked.
@@LordSavok fair enough, probably have to restrict him to his containtment region/province first, or any other way you can lock him into a predictable pattern.
Tbf, I've spent too much time(many games farming Ikit and his 2-3 recurring armies as they regularily swarm towards Miragliano as Borgio on TOW map, just for that sweet +research and cash infusion (and xp on +research/tradegoods blue line lords). And to let him build up Tylos for me. So I might be biased when it comes to how to deal with such situations. ^,^