It kinda makes it sketchy at fast speed though. My roads are pretty bad and the contact on 120 clouds made it feel like the wheels were hunting side to side.
Nah i think youre right on the thinner contact having more comfort. I think its cause hitting the whole surface of the wheel will have more resistance. Hitting a smaller point in the urethane will have more squish.
You're absolutely right when it comes to impacting man hole covers and bike path bridges .The worst I felt were the 105 dadbod wheels ,a little half-inch thick metal bridge ramp almost threw me off my board .
Thanks for the review. Very informative. Again! I now have the FE 120mm and got to say they're now my best thane. They've replaced my zoobomb 111mm and even my mad v2. Yes, they're that good as a daily driver. Well done cloudwheels you got me hooked on the rovers 110mm and now the FE 120mm.
In Manhattan , i currently ride 8 miles to work with the beasr wind wheels.when i ride each day ,i encounter ten block of rough torn up roads from 62 street to 72street.
Size matters depending on rider. Wider makes sense in grass, gravel, and just more terrain than street. This is why Esk8 is awesome is that you do not have to be committed to one area or the same predictable place. You can go ahead and prove me wrong by getting some roller blade wheels and seeing how well you can AT.
Interesting point about the non flat contact point going over manhole covers. I actually though the flat wheels would be better for that since the same amount of force is transmitted in a larger section of the wheel allowing more of the PU to dampen the force. But I only have the non flat wheels so that's just my theory. In fact I've only had my cloud wheels for about a 2 weeks lol.
Hi Fred, I like your reviews because, like me, you're an urethane lover and you like pushing the wheels to the limits. Here again, great review! Two questions: did you try to slide them (I like the way Galaxy wheels do) ? Are they as dangerous as the Galaxy on wet ground ?
What's better between the Galaxys and the FE 105s for soaking up bumps? I ride on bad sidewalks. I have a wowgo 3e a week into ownership of my first board. I'm loving it. 61 miles already. It has Abec already so that's why I didn't get the Mad 105s. I was on the fence between the three wheels. I heard a RUclipsr, Ryan something say the galaxys were harder than the mad v2's and that he tested the duro. I'm hoping I made the right choice getting the galaxys. I also liked how the tread is supposed to repel debris. I thought the 72a duro with the 12 holes would be better than the 78a duro with the foam core.
The point about the contact patch is true. Smaller contact patch means there's less material to compress, and it's gonna feel softer. Force = pressure * surface_area Pressure is like tyre pressure - basically material hardness. So if the wheels are made out of the same material : less surface area = less force to compress
Hi Fred, I am new to the ESK8 world. Awesome review, and because of it I am going to order the isinwheel V10. I am also going to order some of these wheels. My question is, Cloudwheel does not list isinwheel as one of their options, but i see you are on the isinwheel V10 for this test. What brand do I order for? Does it include the gear reduction due to being smaller? I am looking to order the 120's. Thanks!
I'm not entirely sure about the accuracy regarding the transfer and contact patch. The same amount of energy is transferred upon impact, but with a larger contact patch, the energy is distributed over a greater surface area. This means that while more of the surface you hit is in contact, the impact is spread out more. With a smaller contact patch, the force is still the same, but it is concentrated on a smaller area, resulting in a sharper impact that might feel more intense because less of the surface came into contact with what you hit. I guess it all depends on what you hit and how you hit it too.
Oh now I see. You said grip and comfort not just comfort. I’m curious to as what you think with how they compare to mad wheels just on the comfort level and impact absorption (the 105s)
@@MichaelWagner-z4k yea i rate the madwheels 9.5 outta 10 for comfort and grip over the 105 clouds. so if ur inquiring about grip difference, i think its 1 point better cuz i said 8.5 for the 105 clouds. still very good with grip and predictability tho
@@esk8unity yes. I’m curious about what you think of comfort/impact absorption alone. Both wheels have enough grip for me. Just curious which wheel roles over the big nasties the best.
Physics disagrees with the contact point topic, there is more force applied to a smaller contact..BUT i wholeheartedly agree in terms of esk8 because I experience the same thing. Keep it up 🎉
The point you made about the not flat contact patch wheels making going over cracks "more comfy" is soo true
It kinda makes it sketchy at fast speed though. My roads are pretty bad and the contact on 120 clouds made it feel like the wheels were hunting side to side.
Nah i think youre right on the thinner contact having more comfort. I think its cause hitting the whole surface of the wheel will have more resistance. Hitting a smaller point in the urethane will have more squish.
Thanks!
You're absolutely right when it comes to impacting man hole covers and bike path bridges .The worst I felt were the 105 dadbod wheels ,a little half-inch thick metal bridge ramp almost threw me off my board .
Thanks for the review. Very informative. Again! I now have the FE 120mm and got to say they're now my best thane. They've replaced my zoobomb 111mm and even my mad v2. Yes, they're that good as a daily driver. Well done cloudwheels you got me hooked on the rovers 110mm and now the FE 120mm.
So happy to see a new hub motor sleeve! Be curious to hear how it compares with Galaxy Pro ones!
Fred,
Please review the Linnpower wide wheel / slick tire combo. It will bolt on 8mm axles.
The grip is insane!!!
In Manhattan , i currently ride 8 miles to work with the beasr wind wheels.when i ride each day ,i encounter ten block of rough torn up roads from 62 street to 72street.
for the AT you prefer 120mm?
Size matters depending on rider.
Wider makes sense in grass, gravel, and just more terrain than street.
This is why Esk8 is awesome is that you do not have to be committed to one area or the same predictable place.
You can go ahead and prove me wrong by getting some roller blade wheels and seeing how well you can AT.
Interesting point about the non flat contact point going over manhole covers. I actually though the flat wheels would be better for that since the same amount of force is transmitted in a larger section of the wheel allowing more of the PU to dampen the force. But I only have the non flat wheels so that's just my theory. In fact I've only had my cloud wheels for about a 2 weeks lol.
Looking forward to seeing this review from among the best in the biz! (Fred & Max)
Legends actually.
Can you look at the isinwheel V10
coming next week!! its in this video actually 🤘🏼✅✅
@@esk8unityHell yeah
@@esk8unity I got 4 videos on it right now
Hi Fred, I like your reviews because, like me, you're an urethane lover and you like pushing the wheels to the limits. Here again, great review!
Two questions: did you try to slide them (I like the way Galaxy wheels do) ? Are they as dangerous as the Galaxy on wet ground ?
Urethanes are so much more fun than other wheels. But I'm sure they are bad on wet ground. Without tread any wheel will be dangerous on wet pavement.
@@boneheadnumber1409 icloud Galaxy are particularly bad on the wet
Could you do a video where you compare all the different cloudwheels? Galaxy pro, rover etc.
What's better between the Galaxys and the FE 105s for soaking up bumps? I ride on bad sidewalks. I have a wowgo 3e a week into ownership of my first board. I'm loving it. 61 miles already. It has Abec already so that's why I didn't get the Mad 105s.
I was on the fence between the three wheels. I heard a RUclipsr, Ryan something say the galaxys were harder than the mad v2's and that he tested the duro.
I'm hoping I made the right choice getting the galaxys. I also liked how the tread is supposed to repel debris.
I thought the 72a duro with the 12 holes would be better than the 78a duro with the foam core.
Another great review Fred. Thanks for the info.
The point about the contact patch is true. Smaller contact patch means there's less material to compress, and it's gonna feel softer.
Force = pressure * surface_area
Pressure is like tyre pressure - basically material hardness. So if the wheels are made out of the same material : less surface area = less force to compress
Dude knows his wheels💯. I’m so happy the 105s came with my zealot. They grip so much better than I had ever pictured. 🔥🔥
Nice video man. Do they grip more than BOAs ?
I like my original clouds but I’m on hub motors now when I upgrade to a belt these may be a good option
Great detailing, Love the Unity, still looking sharp❤
What pulleys are you using for the 120mm green wheels? I have the isinwheel v10 and there is no reference for this board on the pulley reference table
@@jeffersonajayi4431 40T (i think) and 295 belts. i told them this weeks ago. let me tell them again.
@@esk8unity thanks bro
Hi Fred, I am new to the ESK8 world. Awesome review, and because of it I am going to order the isinwheel V10. I am also going to order some of these wheels. My question is, Cloudwheel does not list isinwheel as one of their options, but i see you are on the isinwheel V10 for this test. What brand do I order for? Does it include the gear reduction due to being smaller? I am looking to order the 120's. Thanks!
@@pathaver9320 can u send me a DM on instagram? @esk8unity
I'm not entirely sure about the accuracy regarding the transfer and contact patch. The same amount of energy is transferred upon impact, but with a larger contact patch, the energy is distributed over a greater surface area. This means that while more of the surface you hit is in contact, the impact is spread out more. With a smaller contact patch, the force is still the same, but it is concentrated on a smaller area, resulting in a sharper impact that might feel more intense because less of the surface came into contact with what you hit. I guess it all depends on what you hit and how you hit it too.
When do these wheels become available?
Nvm finally hopped on Instagram and saw they are coming out July 1st!
That green pops!
thanks for another great review Fred. I took your advice and got the 120s. First impressions, I love them on my Zeus Pro!
What do you like about them? How do they compare to other urethane wheels? Thanks in advance
I wish they were offered in kegel, it’s the only reason i dont own several sets of clouds. ☁️
great review as usual!
bro, you are soooo informative.. Love it. 👍
Your the only RUclipsr saying the fe 105s are more comfortable than the mad 105s v2s. R u sure?
@@MichaelWagner-z4k where do i say that? lol
Oh now I see. You said grip and comfort not just comfort. I’m curious to as what you think with how they compare to mad wheels just on the comfort level and impact absorption (the 105s)
@@MichaelWagner-z4k yea i rate the madwheels 9.5 outta 10 for comfort and grip over the 105 clouds. so if ur inquiring about grip difference, i think its 1 point better cuz i said 8.5 for the 105 clouds. still very good with grip and predictability tho
@@esk8unity yes. I’m curious about what you think of comfort/impact absorption alone. Both wheels have enough grip for me. Just curious which wheel roles over the big nasties the best.
The review I wanted to see 👏
Physics disagrees with the contact point topic, there is more force applied to a smaller contact..BUT i wholeheartedly agree in terms of esk8 because I experience the same thing. Keep it up 🎉
went to the website to find these, not there, not interested anymore.
Did you comment this on Kami and Dkwan and Rage studios review too?
@@eboardlifestyle I don’t follow them. Dont like their video styles.
Thank you
Hell even if they just made em in white you could still dye them whatever color you want
Roller blades reinventing themselves. Gay