Why would a laser cause the entire window to shatter? It wouldn't. It would cut through the glass leaving a molten gash. That's a detail that always annoyed me.
Thank you Mr.Gillard! We appreciate your time and effort in finding these tapes and uploading them here and we hope to see more in the future, and May the force be with you!
@@senateurpalpatine true but it still shows Palpatine's cunning, skill and calculated mind to not only beat (almost) all of the Jedi Masters/High council members that came to arrest him but to manipulate the event to gain Anakin/Vader as his Apprentice
Unfortunately when you look at alot of the stuff of the "Behind the scenes" of Star Wars for WHY some things are the way they are, they really convey the feeling that Lucas did alot more harm than good to his own franchise. You can see traces of this all the way back to Return of the Jedi's story where lucas changed the story outline that was made by Gary Krutz and added Ewoks and a Second Death Star even tho so many people dislike those elements, it's why Gary Krutz left to begin with because He was against the direction lucas was doing for the story as he was just making changes to make money for toy sale profit
@@skeleton819 This is from the website's page as youtube won't allow me to tell you where yo go for some reason without erasing my comment. "It’s become de rigueur to say that George Lucas sullied his Star Wars legacy through garish CGI revisions and lackluster prequels, but if this L.A. Times interview with producer Gary Kurtz is to be believed, Lucas gave into the dark side of marketing-driven decisions a long, long time ago. According to Kurtz, after helping to create the first two Star Wars films, he became disillusioned with Lucas just before Return Of The Jedi, when he noticed that Lucas’ priorities had shifted away from story and character toward selling some toys. Eventually the two decided they couldn’t work with each other anymore, especially after finding themselves unable to come to an agreement over what form Jedi should take-particularly given Lucas’ idea of framing it around a second Death Star, which Kurtz felt was “too derivative.” Things apparently came to a head over the ending, which Lucas completely rewrote-all because, as Kurtz avers, it might have affected the merchandising-and which he outlines here to give you a glimpse of what might have been, had Lucas not been guided by the all-powerful Force known as Kenner: “We had an outline and George changed everything in it," Kurtz said. “Instead of bittersweet and poignant he wanted a euphoric ending with everybody happy. The original idea was that they would recover [the kidnapped] Han Solo in the early part of the story and that he would then die in the middle part of the film in a raid on an Imperial base. George then decided he didn’t want any of the principals killed. By that time there were really big toy sales and that was a reason.” The discussed ending of the film that Kurtz favored presented the rebel forces in tatters, Leia grappling with her new duties as queen and Luke walking off alone “like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns,” as Kurtz put it. Kurtz said that ending would have been a more emotionally nuanced finale to an epic adventure than the forest celebration of the Ewoks that essentially ended the trilogy with a teddy bear luau. Luckily, Lucas later turned his little teddy bear luau into an interplanetary rave and invited Hayden Christensen, so all’s well that ends well."
One thing that I absolutely love in this clip, that sadly enough didn't come forth as much in the movie, is how efficient and economical Palpatine is in his movements. It's different from most other styles and personalities we see. There are very few unneccessary pirouettes and twirls and a lot of quick jabs and feints. Here, you understand that the first two to fall simply weren't prepared for what they were up against. Both of their acting through this fight tells a clear story. Palpatine is almost toying with them, until he gets to square of with Mace for real. Mace goes from strugling to keep up, to adapting, to finally overpowering, which is a key part of his character as well. It is one of the coolest choreographies I've seen, to be honest. Side note: One thing I think the new films in general are lacking are the long wide shots. Now, everything is so close-up and shaky that you can't really appreciate the choreography. I've always been very facinated and interested in the storytelling of fighting choreography, and Mr Gillard's work has always been an inspiration.
O mais interessante nesta coreografia é q mostra q mesmo para windu não foi fácil acompanhar palpatine. Com exceção de yoda ele era o duelista mais formidável e isso obrigou o windu a dar tudo de si, não só em técnica de sabres de luz.
@@pinroshan020 lol NO it’s not “HIS faUlT” AT ALL. Anyone can criticize anything when it’s garnered it, lucas should have sucked up and NEVER sold his franchise to Disney and stopped being a baby and manned up so he can ASK FOR HELP to improve his franchise and get people to assist him, not throw it all away. Which you BADLY fail to understand here! Simple as that! ANYONE can criticize a franchise when it deserves it and the Star Wars prequels have ALOT of nonsense to criticize mainly for episodes 1 and 2, that which you BADLY fail to understand here in EVERY way!
@@vaseplate1049 They have been in contact in the past, but the relationship fell down. Now Star Wars Analyst properly credits Nick in his video, not just hidden in the description, and also adds commentary and VFX to the clips. It makes it Fair Use. Cheers from France! 🍻
@vaseplate1049 They didn’t know each other, Analyst lied that they did just to be able to bask in the admiration of his bamboozled viewers. @DarthWinterMadness I strongly disagree that he “properly credits” this channel as he hasn’t even once mentioned it, nor clarified the situation, nor publicly apologized for his utter failure at showing basic decency and respect towards one of the creators of the franchise he claims to be a fan of. SWA is a fan of himself and little else.
This is so cool!!!! Just imagine a series about both the Jedi and Sith Orders, in their prime, going at each other with choreography that rivals THIS!!! Make it happen Disney!!!!!!!
Dave Filoni is mainly an animator but if he can help Filoni with any live action fight scenes, than that would be awesome to see! As I would love to see Nick’s choreography used again in live action Star Wars stuff!
What makes gillards choreography brilliant: is that it makes absolute sense from a technical standpoint. I can watch these, and see elements of kendo, fencing, wushu. They are not wildly telegraphing their strikes by swinging them like baseball bats, they are not blindly swinging in the air for the sake of looking cool. Even the footwork is technically correct. Each fighter also has their own unique style and therein lies why I feel like nick gillard is absolutely brilliant. I would be able to tell what fighter it is just by the way they utilize their lightsaber.
I’ve never seen this! Oh wow!!! Makes the duel so much more enjoyable. I know Lucas really wanted Ian and Sam to do it. But after watching this…man, I want more of this! 🤩🤘🏻
@00:35 damn that head tilt on palpatine's stunt double was smooth. To palpatine, this fight was effortless. Also, i like the fact that he mostly takes thrusting stances. All of his strikes are meant to be lethal.
Thank you sir for sharing this masterpiece with us fans! It was amazing! We are missing such great fights in Star Wars these days.. :') Much love to you!
Love seeing these behind the scenes right from the man himself. This version seems to more clearly show that Palpatine was enjoying his fight with Windu more than he was trying to win it. He was not on the all-out aggression like he was with the others in the room, he was copying whatever he was doing, proving that he was better. At one point he managed to slip under and dealt a backwards stab to the calf while walking away before he turned and loomed over the wounded Jedi. He could have have easily just scored a lethal slash right there, but instead he waited for him to get back up and fell backwards towards the window for the eventual scene of begging for Anakin's help.
1:15 is a perfect example of what a realistic sword clash would be. In real combat, no one would ever lock their blades because they are moving so fast. In any scenario that this does happen, people try to circumvent around the block in an attempt to push their opponent or disorient them, but the blades are never in a fixed position.
The choreography here is a lot more intense than what we saw in the movie, and the implications are different too. Lucas said Windu beat Palpatine fair and square in the movie, even though it looks a little ambiguous. Here, it looks like Palpatine threw the fight or Windu got really lucky.
That’s because Lucas never really said Windu won “fair and square”, in fact he’s been explicitly stated to have worked with Nick in making the dueling prowess levels of each prequel character where Sidious is ranked above Windu “The fighting has evolved considerably in these last three movies. *George works on a system of levels. Yoda is a level nine. Darth Sidious is a level nine. Mace Windu is a level eight.*” (The Star Wars Archives: Episode I-III) “*George knows the levels, myself and George talked about levels and how it was.* But it's more, it's not like a black belt, it's more like a Richter scale. So the difference between eight, Obi's an eight, so the difference between an eight and a nine is enormous.” (Nick Gillard, Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary)
@@BiriBiri925 But that doesn’t mean Mace won the fight considering Palpatine can still fight back with his lightning. "Okay, well, this sequence always started out with Mace overpowering Palpatine, and then Palpatine using his powers to try to destroy Mace, and Mace deflecting his rays with his lightsaber. And it always was that Anakin cut the lightsaber out of his hand. **But this part where he pretends to lose his power** and be weak was something that I added later because this moved the point where Anakin turns down to this moment right here, and you can see now that it's very clear that he wants him to go on trial so he can pump him for information about how to get these powers." (George Lucas, Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary) Lucas simultaneously states Palpatine was faking weakness in the lightning exchange and is confirmed to have line-edited and endorse the adult novel where Mace’s internal thoughts are conceding to Palpatine’s lightning and being this close to having to eat his own purple blade in the face because he couldn’t hold it back any longer just before Palpatine stops (confirmed by Lucas above to have been faking) "You're the chosen one, Anakin," Mace said, his voice going thin with strain. **This was beyond Vaapad; he had no strength left to fight against his own blade**” … **Mace's blade bent so close to his face that he was choking on ozone. "Anakin, he's too strong for me-"** And through the author’s own words, that is there because Lucas *wanted* it to be there. "What's in that book is there because Mr. Lucas wanted it to be there. What's not in the book is not there because Mr. Lucas wanted it gone." (Matthew Stover, starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Revenge_of_the_Sith_(novelization)#Canonicity)
😭😭😭 I feel cheated out of getting an awsome star wars experience. Even if it was 4 hours Many of us would have watched the whole movie if it had scenes like this.
Thankyou Mr Gillard for bringing us fans some real Star Wars again. ❤ I love what you and your team did and watching the amazing work they put into these fights.
Yes! I was waiting for this fight for so long 💜 I'm surprised of how much of it stayed, specially in the second part, and Sidious attitude and stance too.
i love how the performers all make lightsaber noises lol also makes me wish we got even one lightsaber duel with a female force user in the prequel trilogy!
Absolutely loving all this great footage you've been able to find and upload Nick ❤️🔥 but by any chance do you have anything from Attack of the Clones?
If this version of the duel made it to the screen, I don't think there would be any question to whether Mace stood an actual chance at defeating Palpatine. This stunt guy was on another level here, managing to appear so aggressive and fast with minimal effort. Mace was good enough to hang on but it was very clear that Palps dictated the tempo of the fight (well, until the very end but that was supposedly when he threw the fight). The actual duel made them seem much more evenly matched so when Mace disarmed Palpatine, it seemed like a realistic thing to have happened. Also, most of it was close ups of the actors face sand a lot of fast action cuts that takes away from the choreography.
tbh it would make sense for him to throw the fight to put anikan in the position to choose. If he won then it would not work. Palpatine was a sith and if he won then he would just be an enemy to kill. Putting Windu on top would force anikan to choose. Then of course he knew he was a good person so he would want to spare him.
@@star-warsien He didn’t say anything about Windu winning “fair and square.” The quote most people are referring to in the Windu v Sidious fight is this: "*Okay, well, this sequence always started out with Mace overpowering Palpatine,* and then Palpatine using his powers to try to destroy Mace, and Mace deflecting his rays with his lightsaber. And it always was that Anakin cut the lightsaber out of his hand. *But this part where he pretends to lose his power and be weak* was something that I added later because this moved the point where Anakin turns down to this moment right here, and you can see now that it's very clear that he wants him to go on trial so he can pump him for information about how to get these powers." (George Lucas, Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary) George said that this sequence starts with "Mace overpowering Palpatine," but notice how he specifies "this sequence." This context implies that he is describing the visual representation of the scene. While we do witness Mace overpowering Sidious visually, it doesn't necessarily reflect the underlying narrative of the scene. George then explicitly mentions that "Sidious pretends to lose his power," a fact evident from Ian's performance during the scene. It's understandable why many may advocate taking George's words at face value, as there appears to be no indication that he meant Mace's visual dominance alone. But here’s another statement from George Lucas concerning the Office Duel: "It seemed to make a lot more sense to have him remain loyal to the Jedi as long as possible, which meant later on in the scene with the fight with Mace, we re-did that scene, and at first, *there wasn't the part where the Emperor gives up. He says, 'Uh, you got me. You got me.'* It was basically the scene without that where it just gets more intense, then finally Anakin breaks down and saves him, but it doesn't have the same thing as that pause in there where you think that, and it also makes the Emperor a lot more slimy. It's really fun too. It's a fun dramatic thing to deal with." (George Lucas, Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary) In this statement, Lucas appears to contradict his previous assertion. He mentions that initially, the fight was intended to escalate continuously until Anakin's intervention, without any reference to Palpatine losing or getting overpowered. It's only in the final version that George explicitly states that Sidious "gives up," not that he "loses." Which strongly suggests that Palpatine deliberately threw the fight rather than being defeated outright. When it comes to Nick Gillard, Lucas has explicitly discussed the up to 10 scale (that characters only reach a 9 on) with Gillard and had Gillard develop how they fought. “The fighting has evolved considerably in these last three movies. *George works on a system of levels. Yoda is a level nine. Darth Sidious is a level nine. Mace Windu is a level eight.”* (The Star Wars Archives: Episode I-III) So we have Lucas working with Gillard to make a dueling tier system in which Yoda and Sidious are above Windu, combined with his statements about Sidious “giving up” and “pretending to be weak”, the evidence leans more towards Sidious taking a dive, or as Gillard put it in his interview with SW Theory, “Palpatine being utterly in control of everything”
@@emelem6858 Thats a long winded way of saying that George added the fake begging AFTER the duel. It gives no credence to pretending to lose the saber duel. Thats not the case at all. The info in the making of RTOS reads (Lucas said)... "You have to be Mace or Yoda to even compete with the Emperor..." No one is questioning what happened after. The contention is if he actually won the duel itself, which George never said Sidious did. But asserted that Mace did overpower the emperor in the duel. He did not contradict anything he said in the duel itself, it was just what happened after with Sidious disarmed/giving up. As for Nick G, I love the guy but I listen to George Lucas over Nick G for obvious reasons.
@@star-warsien Good answer, but in the actual quote Lucas explicitly says that he added the scene where Palpatine gives up "later on in the scene with the fight with Mace”, not after. And he himself says that the original version without the giving up part only merely has the fight escalating until Anakin makes his choice, and only then is the fight over, meaning there isn't any focus given to the aftermath of the fight. "It seemed to make a lot more sense to have him remain loyal to the Jedi as long as possible, which meant later on in the scene with *the fight with Mace*, we re-did that scene, and at first, there wasn't the part where the Emperor gives up. He says, 'Uh, you got me. You got me.' *It was basically the scene without that where it just gets more intense*” Even in your full quote in the making of ROTS it says “You have to be either Mace or Yoda to compete with the Emperor," Lucas says. "If Anakin hadn't got all beat up, he could've beat the Emperor." Where Lucas clearly makes a distinction between being able to “beat” (Anakin) and merely “compete” with the Emperor (Mace or Yoda). And as for Nick Gillard, I’m not making any claims about who holds more authority between him and Lucas, merely that they are explicitly stated to be on the same wavelength on the dueling tier system that has Mace below the likes of Yoda and Sidious, which just adds up with all the pile of evidence in favor of Sidious “George knows the levels, myself and George talked about levels and how it was. But it's more, it's not like a black belt, it's more like a Richter scale. So the difference between eight, Obi's an eight, so the difference between an eight and a nine is enormous.” “The fighting has evolved considerably in these last three movies. George works on a system of levels. Yoda is a level nine. Darth Sidious is a level nine. Mace Windu is a level eight.”
I like the little dodges, near-hits, feints and grazings... shows you they're actually trying to hit each other as opposed to doing a choreographed dance with glowing sticks in their hands for no apparent reason.
Palps minimalist and precise movements showcase absolute control and awareness of outcome, a near crime that something so expressive of the character was excluded!
Hopefully someday when the empire falls amd star wars falls into good hands again they can rehire this guy and his team and make some more badass scenes for us.
I keep coming back to this video. It’s such a clean duel, and gives so much more insight into it. In my opinion, this duel shows just how much more advanced Sidious is as a duelist than the Jedi, and how much control he truly had throughout this fight. I know George has said outright that Mace won this duel, but, to me, this footage shows the opposite. Sidious’ handling of not just the Jedi, but his own lightsaber technique from the very start, let’s us know that Mace didn’t stand a chance. With everything Mace gave (even as a Vaapad specialist), Sidious, as a swordsman, had an immediate answer. He checked him in so many spots, from the glance to Mace’s side at the beginning, to the way he controlled their central line after that, up to when he burns him with his blade during their stand-off. There wasn’t a moment where it didn’t feel like Sidious was just a predator toying with his prey… He knew with Anakin coming he ultimately had to throw this fight, but with what Nick came up with for this duel, I now have no doubt in my mind, that the head-cannon I’ve carried since I was 12, was right all this time: Sidious dominated this duel. Thank you for this footage Nick, the fans appreciate it more than you know!
Watching this I totally buy that that is how the Dark Lord of the Sith would fight. It's such a shame we never got to see most of this realised in the final movie
I wish these came with the names of the stunt performers. So someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but could the guys be Ben Cooke, Michael Byrne, Nash Edgerton and Kyle Rowling? Do we know the woman's name? At first I thought it could be Mousy McCallum, but I don't know...
Thank you for sharing this here Mr Gillard. I liked the duels in the prequels very much. Was there ever a plan to show the duel between Cin Drallig and Anakin Skywalker which is briefly seen as a hologram in Episode 3?
The strike at :52, that is in the movie but you dont see Mace get injured in the leg. And though you dont see him get injured, there is a specific sound effect when Palpatine slashes down towards Mace. Always confuses me
In the actual duel they seem evenly matched and it is ambiguous whether Palpatine threw the fight. Here, Palpatine is clearly superior and likely did throw the fight.
So was there a deleted scene of cin drallig vs anakin skywalker that you did in revenge of the sith because all i saw was anakin fighting you as cin drallig in a hologram and it cuts to yoda and obi wan ?
It makes sense that this fight was also planned to be longer like the ending fights, I really wish we could get a recut of this movie that would be like Zack Snyder's Justice League where the full vision is restored lol
We need an updated PT with these extended saber battles added back in , updated effects, and maybe even new dialogue scenes (with deepfake tech nowadays, they could easily de-age a lot of the PT actors).
What have you done Geaorge ? Now we need a Special Edition of prequels to fix them. Such a waste of great fight choreography. Well just a few years and Fan edits /* films will be the same production level quality as movies today.
The window smash scene has got to be one of the most satisfying things in the franchise.
I climax every time lol
@@George-um2vc pause
@@George-um2vc big pause
@@thecleanslate3648 you may resume young one.
Why would a laser cause the entire window to shatter? It wouldn't. It would cut through the glass leaving a molten gash. That's a detail that always annoyed me.
Thank you Mr.Gillard! We appreciate your time and effort in finding these tapes and uploading them here and we hope to see more in the future, and May the force be with you!
Palpatine threw the fight, fake disarm
@@senateurpalpatine true but it still shows Palpatine's cunning, skill and calculated mind to not only beat (almost) all of the Jedi Masters/High council members that came to arrest him but to manipulate the event to gain Anakin/Vader as his Apprentice
@@zibilacoste5 yes but George Lucas said himself that palatine did not throw the fight
@@zibilacoste5 but I feel like George Lucas saying that mace windu won the fight and palatine didn't throw the fight nullifies that
I've always admired Palpatine spin at the start. It was such an awesome move.
It looks better than the one we got
loved how this fight played out. it actually showed us quick and dangerous Palpatine was.
Windu also
georg lucas: “this looks really well-done, lets cut it out!”
Unfortunately when you look at alot of the stuff of the "Behind the scenes" of Star Wars for WHY some things are the way they are, they really convey the feeling that Lucas did alot more harm than good to his own franchise. You can see traces of this all the way back to Return of the Jedi's story where lucas changed the story outline that was made by Gary Krutz and added Ewoks and a Second Death Star even tho so many people dislike those elements, it's why Gary Krutz left to begin with because He was against the direction lucas was doing for the story as he was just making changes to make money for toy sale profit
@@Gadget-Walkmen can i get a summary of rots original story
@@skeleton819 This is from the website's page as youtube won't allow me to tell you where yo go for some reason without erasing my comment.
"It’s become de rigueur to say that George Lucas sullied his Star Wars legacy through garish CGI revisions and lackluster prequels, but if this L.A. Times interview with producer Gary Kurtz is to be believed, Lucas gave into the dark side of marketing-driven decisions a long, long time ago.
According to Kurtz, after helping to create the first two Star Wars films, he became disillusioned with Lucas just before Return Of The Jedi, when he noticed that Lucas’ priorities had shifted away from story and character toward selling some toys. Eventually the two decided they couldn’t work with each other anymore, especially after finding themselves unable to come to an agreement over what form Jedi should take-particularly given Lucas’ idea of framing it around a second Death Star, which Kurtz felt was “too derivative.”
Things apparently came to a head over the ending, which Lucas completely rewrote-all because, as Kurtz avers, it might have affected the merchandising-and which he outlines here to give you a glimpse of what might have been, had Lucas not been guided by the all-powerful Force known as Kenner:
“We had an outline and George changed everything in it," Kurtz said. “Instead of bittersweet and poignant he wanted a euphoric ending with everybody happy. The original idea was that they would recover [the kidnapped] Han Solo in the early part of the story and that he would then die in the middle part of the film in a raid on an Imperial base. George then decided he didn’t want any of the principals killed. By that time there were really big toy sales and that was a reason.”
The discussed ending of the film that Kurtz favored presented the rebel forces in tatters, Leia grappling with her new duties as queen and Luke walking off alone “like Clint Eastwood in the spaghetti westerns,” as Kurtz put it.
Kurtz said that ending would have been a more emotionally nuanced finale to an epic adventure than the forest celebration of the Ewoks that essentially ended the trilogy with a teddy bear luau.
Luckily, Lucas later turned his little teddy bear luau into an interplanetary rave and invited Hayden Christensen, so all’s well that ends well."
Palpatine actor, Ian was too old and not experienced enough to pull this off properly
@@captainquagmire859 yesh, but they planned on having Palpatine be played by a cgi stunt double in this duel, like with count dooku
One thing that I absolutely love in this clip, that sadly enough didn't come forth as much in the movie, is how efficient and economical Palpatine is in his movements. It's different from most other styles and personalities we see. There are very few unneccessary pirouettes and twirls and a lot of quick jabs and feints. Here, you understand that the first two to fall simply weren't prepared for what they were up against.
Both of their acting through this fight tells a clear story. Palpatine is almost toying with them, until he gets to square of with Mace for real. Mace goes from strugling to keep up, to adapting, to finally overpowering, which is a key part of his character as well. It is one of the coolest choreographies I've seen, to be honest.
Side note: One thing I think the new films in general are lacking are the long wide shots. Now, everything is so close-up and shaky that you can't really appreciate the choreography.
I've always been very facinated and interested in the storytelling of fighting choreography, and Mr Gillard's work has always been an inspiration.
Close ups to hide their lousy choreography
O mais interessante nesta coreografia é q mostra q mesmo para windu não foi fácil acompanhar palpatine. Com exceção de yoda ele era o duelista mais formidável e isso obrigou o windu a dar tudo de si, não só em técnica de sabres de luz.
The Sidious reminds me much of the Dark Empire young Palpatine.
Lol I was thinking the same thing!
How 😂😂 Star Wars fans are as horrible as dragon ball fans 😂😂
I mean he does *really* look like a young Palpatine, so I can definitely see this guy playing the role in a hypothetical Dark Empire situation
You literally have a vegeta profile @@MrDumdumkilla
The more I see these deleted scenes, the more depressed I get because we missed out on so many awesome lightsaber duels made by this legend.
Its all your fault why lucas sold it to disney. Next time be careful when criticizing a franchise.
@@pinroshan020 lol NO it’s not “HIS faUlT” AT ALL. Anyone can criticize anything when it’s garnered it, lucas should have sucked up and NEVER sold his franchise to Disney and stopped being a baby and manned up so he can ASK FOR HELP to improve his franchise and get people to assist him, not throw it all away. Which you BADLY fail to understand here! Simple as that!
ANYONE can criticize a franchise when it deserves it and the Star Wars prequels have ALOT of nonsense to criticize mainly for episodes 1 and 2, that which you BADLY fail to understand here in EVERY way!
@@pinroshan020fuck off with that ridiculous bullshit.
@@pinroshan020are you stupid on purpose?
@@Gadget-Walkmenyou are actually just braindead
Thank you Nick, please keep finding the tapes and film. I love all of your work mate 🤙🏽
Absolutely amazing! I really hope Star Wars Analyst doesn't steal this one tho.
I thought they and Nick Gillard knew each other?
@@vaseplate1049 They have been in contact in the past, but the relationship fell down.
Now Star Wars Analyst properly credits Nick in his video, not just hidden in the description, and also adds commentary and VFX to the clips. It makes it Fair Use.
Cheers from France! 🍻
@vaseplate1049 They didn’t know each other, Analyst lied that they did just to be able to bask in the admiration of his bamboozled viewers.
@DarthWinterMadness I strongly disagree that he “properly credits” this channel as he hasn’t even once mentioned it, nor clarified the situation, nor publicly apologized for his utter failure at showing basic decency and respect towards one of the creators of the franchise he claims to be a fan of. SWA is a fan of himself and little else.
This is so cool!!!! Just imagine a series about both the Jedi and Sith Orders, in their prime, going at each other with choreography that rivals THIS!!! Make it happen Disney!!!!!!!
Jeeeesus now THAT gave me chills unlike what we got in the film. Nick never stop doing these coreographs, Dave Filoni needs your talent!
Dave Filoni is mainly an animator but if he can help Filoni with any live action fight scenes, than that would be awesome to see! As I would love to see Nick’s choreography used again in live action Star Wars stuff!
This is very fluid choreography! I love it. Thank you for taking the time to upload these archives. Can’t wait for the next video!
What makes gillards choreography brilliant: is that it makes absolute sense from a technical standpoint. I can watch these, and see elements of kendo, fencing, wushu. They are not wildly telegraphing their strikes by swinging them like baseball bats, they are not blindly swinging in the air for the sake of looking cool. Even the footwork is technically correct. Each fighter also has their own unique style and therein lies why I feel like nick gillard is absolutely brilliant. I would be able to tell what fighter it is just by the way they utilize their lightsaber.
Amazing work. Can’t even imagine what this would have looked like in the movie.
These are Nicks videos , Star Wars Analyst is taking Nicks videos. Be sure to support Nick in anyway as he asked on Star Wars Theory 😉.
Master Darlig delivers again! What a talented team! So fluid, elegant, and fierce.
Thank you!
These are incredible to see.Your work is still unmatched in the history of lightsaber fights. Thanks so much for sharing!
I’ve never seen this! Oh wow!!! Makes the duel so much more enjoyable. I know Lucas really wanted Ian and Sam to do it. But after watching this…man, I want more of this! 🤩🤘🏻
@00:35 damn that head tilt on palpatine's stunt double was smooth. To palpatine, this fight was effortless. Also, i like the fact that he mostly takes thrusting stances. All of his strikes are meant to be lethal.
Thank you sir for sharing this masterpiece with us fans! It was amazing! We are missing such great fights in Star Wars these days.. :') Much love to you!
So much elegance in these original fights. From a more civilized time...
Thank you for sharing these priceless unique treasures with us Nick!
Fantastic work as usual. Frustrated that a lot of the hard work didn't make it into the final cut of the film. Your team was amazing!!
Love seeing these behind the scenes right from the man himself.
This version seems to more clearly show that Palpatine was enjoying his fight with Windu more than he was trying to win it. He was not on the all-out aggression like he was with the others in the room, he was copying whatever he was doing, proving that he was better. At one point he managed to slip under and dealt a backwards stab to the calf while walking away before he turned and loomed over the wounded Jedi. He could have have easily just scored a lethal slash right there, but instead he waited for him to get back up and fell backwards towards the window for the eventual scene of begging for Anakin's help.
1:15 is a perfect example of what a realistic sword clash would be. In real combat, no one would ever lock their blades because they are moving so fast. In any scenario that this does happen, people try to circumvent around the block in an attempt to push their opponent or disorient them, but the blades are never in a fixed position.
Nick, this is SO AWESOME. Thanks for all your hard work and contributions!
This fight is way more believable with less cuts and a master at full speed
Delighted to see the videos are going back up Nick! Thanks for sharing these!
The choreography here is a lot more intense than what we saw in the movie, and the implications are different too. Lucas said Windu beat Palpatine fair and square in the movie, even though it looks a little ambiguous. Here, it looks like Palpatine threw the fight or Windu got really lucky.
That’s because Lucas never really said Windu won “fair and square”, in fact he’s been explicitly stated to have worked with Nick in making the dueling prowess levels of each prequel character where Sidious is ranked above Windu
“The fighting has evolved considerably in these last three movies. *George works on a system of levels. Yoda is a level nine. Darth Sidious is a level nine. Mace Windu is a level eight.*”
(The Star Wars Archives: Episode I-III)
“*George knows the levels, myself and George talked about levels and how it was.* But it's more, it's not like a black belt, it's more like a Richter scale. So the difference between eight, Obi's an eight, so the difference between an eight and a nine is enormous.”
(Nick Gillard, Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary)
@@emelem6858 >That’s because Lucas never really said Windu won “fair and square”
Yes, actually, Lucas said "Mace overpowered him."
@@BiriBiri925 But that doesn’t mean Mace won the fight considering Palpatine can still fight back with his lightning.
"Okay, well, this sequence always started out with Mace overpowering Palpatine, and then Palpatine using his powers to try to destroy Mace, and Mace deflecting his rays with his lightsaber. And it always was that Anakin cut the lightsaber out of his hand. **But this part where he pretends to lose his power** and be weak was something that I added later because this moved the point where Anakin turns down to this moment right here, and you can see now that it's very clear that he wants him to go on trial so he can pump him for information about how to get these powers."
(George Lucas, Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary)
Lucas simultaneously states Palpatine was faking weakness in the lightning exchange and is confirmed to have line-edited and endorse the adult novel where Mace’s internal thoughts are conceding to Palpatine’s lightning and being this close to having to eat his own purple blade in the face because he couldn’t hold it back any longer just before Palpatine stops (confirmed by Lucas above to have been faking)
"You're the chosen one, Anakin," Mace said, his voice going thin with strain. **This was beyond Vaapad; he had no strength left to fight against his own blade**”
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**Mace's blade bent so close to his face that he was choking on ozone. "Anakin, he's too strong for me-"**
And through the author’s own words, that is there because Lucas *wanted* it to be there.
"What's in that book is there because Mr. Lucas wanted it to be there. What's not in the book is not there because Mr. Lucas wanted it gone."
(Matthew Stover, starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Revenge_of_the_Sith_(novelization)#Canonicity)
in a pure 1 on 1 lightsaber duel mace should win (given his vaapad and status as perhaps the greatest lightsaber duelist in the order)
@@emelem6858 saying Mace is an eight and then saying Obi-Wan is an eight it’s crazy
Thank you Mr Guillard for uploading this videos ! I can’t tell you how much I am a fan of you and of this fighting style
Brilliant Nick - thanks for sharing this iconic lightsabre battle
Bless you for continuing to share these amazing scenes
Absolutely love this I can see what they actually do in the movie and also what is new I love the comparison
😭😭😭 I feel cheated out of getting an awsome star wars experience. Even if it was 4 hours Many of us would have watched the whole movie if it had scenes like this.
Now we see Palpatine being the superior duelist. He was toying with Windu.
In a 1v1 situation, i think Windu's ability(shatterpoint) would make him win against palpatine almost everytime
@@HarperLiaWorld Palpatine threw the fight, that's a fact and even Lucas said it.
@@royalistefrancais yes but even if palpatine didnt throw, how would he beat windu in a 1v1 lightsaber fight?
@@HarperLiaWorld Palpatine defeated 3 Jedi. Windu couldn't do anything to save them.
@@royalistefrancais why not beat windu first though?
Thankyou Mr Gillard for bringing us fans some real Star Wars again. ❤ I love what you and your team did and watching the amazing work they put into these fights.
It is soooo good!!!!!!!!! Thank you Mr. Gillard
Aun sin efectos especiales, estos duelos siguen siendo épicos
Yes! I was waiting for this fight for so long 💜 I'm surprised of how much of it stayed, specially in the second part, and Sidious attitude and stance too.
Superb material as always Nick!🙏🏻
The choreography is absolutely amazing
i love how the performers all make lightsaber noises lol
also makes me wish we got even one lightsaber duel with a female force user in the prequel trilogy!
Thank you for sharing these gems! Saberfighters all over the world rejoice)
i love the palpatine lightsaber style. great work Nik
Absolutely loving all this great footage you've been able to find and upload Nick ❤️🔥 but by any chance do you have anything from Attack of the Clones?
Can someone tell us who the stunt artists were and the choreographer? They are all amazing!!
If this version of the duel made it to the screen, I don't think there would be any question to whether Mace stood an actual chance at defeating Palpatine. This stunt guy was on another level here, managing to appear so aggressive and fast with minimal effort. Mace was good enough to hang on but it was very clear that Palps dictated the tempo of the fight (well, until the very end but that was supposedly when he threw the fight).
The actual duel made them seem much more evenly matched so when Mace disarmed Palpatine, it seemed like a realistic thing to have happened. Also, most of it was close ups of the actors face sand a lot of fast action cuts that takes away from the choreography.
tbh it would make sense for him to throw the fight to put anikan in the position to choose. If he won then it would not work.
Palpatine was a sith and if he won then he would just be an enemy to kill. Putting Windu on top would force anikan to choose. Then of course he knew he was a good person so he would want to spare him.
@@BlackDiamond2718 This would make sense for sure. Unfortunately, George Lucas said that Windu won the fight fair and square.
@@star-warsien He didn’t say anything about Windu winning “fair and square.” The quote most people are referring to in the Windu v Sidious fight is this:
"*Okay, well, this sequence always started out with Mace overpowering Palpatine,* and then Palpatine using his powers to try to destroy Mace, and Mace deflecting his rays with his lightsaber. And it always was that Anakin cut the lightsaber out of his hand. *But this part where he pretends to lose his power and be weak* was something that I added later because this moved the point where Anakin turns down to this moment right here, and you can see now that it's very clear that he wants him to go on trial so he can pump him for information about how to get these powers."
(George Lucas, Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary)
George said that this sequence starts with "Mace overpowering Palpatine," but notice how he specifies "this sequence." This context implies that he is describing the visual representation of the scene. While we do witness Mace overpowering Sidious visually, it doesn't necessarily reflect the underlying narrative of the scene. George then explicitly mentions that "Sidious pretends to lose his power," a fact evident from Ian's performance during the scene.
It's understandable why many may advocate taking George's words at face value, as there appears to be no indication that he meant Mace's visual dominance alone. But here’s another statement from George Lucas concerning the Office Duel:
"It seemed to make a lot more sense to have him remain loyal to the Jedi as long as possible, which meant later on in the scene with the fight with Mace, we re-did that scene, and at first, *there wasn't the part where the Emperor gives up. He says, 'Uh, you got me. You got me.'* It was basically the scene without that where it just gets more intense, then finally Anakin breaks down and saves him, but it doesn't have the same thing as that pause in there where you think that, and it also makes the Emperor a lot more slimy. It's really fun too. It's a fun dramatic thing to deal with."
(George Lucas, Revenge of the Sith DVD Commentary)
In this statement, Lucas appears to contradict his previous assertion. He mentions that initially, the fight was intended to escalate continuously until Anakin's intervention, without any reference to Palpatine losing or getting overpowered. It's only in the final version that George explicitly states that Sidious "gives up," not that he "loses." Which strongly suggests that Palpatine deliberately threw the fight rather than being defeated outright.
When it comes to Nick Gillard, Lucas has explicitly discussed the up to 10 scale (that characters only reach a 9 on) with Gillard and had Gillard develop how they fought.
“The fighting has evolved considerably in these last three movies. *George works on a system of levels. Yoda is a level nine. Darth Sidious is a level nine. Mace Windu is a level eight.”*
(The Star Wars Archives: Episode I-III)
So we have Lucas working with Gillard to make a dueling tier system in which Yoda and Sidious are above Windu, combined with his statements about Sidious “giving up” and “pretending to be weak”, the evidence leans more towards Sidious taking a dive, or as Gillard put it in his interview with SW Theory, “Palpatine being utterly in control of everything”
@@emelem6858 Thats a long winded way of saying that George added the fake begging AFTER the duel. It gives no credence to pretending to lose the saber duel. Thats not the case at all. The info in the making of RTOS reads (Lucas said)... "You have to be Mace or Yoda to even compete with the Emperor..." No one is questioning what happened after. The contention is if he actually won the duel itself, which George never said Sidious did. But asserted that Mace did overpower the emperor in the duel. He did not contradict anything he said in the duel itself, it was just what happened after with Sidious disarmed/giving up. As for Nick G, I love the guy but I listen to George Lucas over Nick G for obvious reasons.
@@star-warsien Good answer, but in the actual quote Lucas explicitly says that he added the scene where Palpatine gives up "later on in the scene with the fight with Mace”, not after. And he himself says that the original version without the giving up part only merely has the fight escalating until Anakin makes his choice, and only then is the fight over, meaning there isn't any focus given to the aftermath of the fight.
"It seemed to make a lot more sense to have him remain loyal to the Jedi as long as possible, which meant later on in the scene with *the fight with Mace*, we re-did that scene, and at first, there wasn't the part where the Emperor gives up. He says, 'Uh, you got me. You got me.' *It was basically the scene without that where it just gets more intense*”
Even in your full quote in the making of ROTS it says
“You have to be either Mace or Yoda to compete with the Emperor," Lucas says. "If Anakin hadn't got all beat up, he could've beat the Emperor."
Where Lucas clearly makes a distinction between being able to “beat” (Anakin) and merely “compete” with the Emperor (Mace or Yoda). And as for Nick Gillard, I’m not making any claims about who holds more authority between him and Lucas, merely that they are explicitly stated to be on the same wavelength on the dueling tier system that has Mace below the likes of Yoda and Sidious, which just adds up with all the pile of evidence in favor of Sidious
“George knows the levels, myself and George talked about levels and how it was. But it's more, it's not like a black belt, it's more like a Richter scale. So the difference between eight, Obi's an eight, so the difference between an eight and a nine is enormous.”
“The fighting has evolved considerably in these last three movies. George works on a system of levels. Yoda is a level nine. Darth Sidious is a level nine. Mace Windu is a level eight.”
I like the little dodges, near-hits, feints and grazings... shows you they're actually trying to hit each other as opposed to doing a choreographed dance with glowing sticks in their hands for no apparent reason.
Palps minimalist and precise movements showcase absolute control and awareness of outcome, a near crime that something so expressive of the character was excluded!
Thank you!!! So appreciate your work.
Literally doing God's work by releasing these
Awesome Nick! Sir Thanks for uploading these and sharing ⚔️⚡🙏
Hopefully someday when the empire falls amd star wars falls into good hands again they can rehire this guy and his team and make some more badass scenes for us.
I keep coming back to this video. It’s such a clean duel, and gives so much more insight into it. In my opinion, this duel shows just how much more advanced Sidious is as a duelist than the Jedi, and how much control he truly had throughout this fight. I know George has said outright that Mace won this duel, but, to me, this footage shows the opposite. Sidious’ handling of not just the Jedi, but his own lightsaber technique from the very start, let’s us know that Mace didn’t stand a chance. With everything Mace gave (even as a Vaapad specialist), Sidious, as a swordsman, had an immediate answer. He checked him in so many spots, from the glance to Mace’s side at the beginning, to the way he controlled their central line after that, up to when he burns him with his blade during their stand-off. There wasn’t a moment where it didn’t feel like Sidious was just a predator toying with his prey…
He knew with Anakin coming he ultimately had to throw this fight, but with what Nick came up with for this duel, I now have no doubt in my mind, that the head-cannon I’ve carried since I was 12, was right all this time: Sidious dominated this duel.
Thank you for this footage Nick, the fans appreciate it more than you know!
I'd love to know the names of the other swordsmen (and swordswoman) who performed with you.
First and not ashamed! Keep it up master Drallig💪
What i like in this duel, is that Windu's Vaapad and Sidious' Juyo is meant to be a similar style.
You made my childhood ! Merci !!!
Watching this I totally buy that that is how the Dark Lord of the Sith would fight. It's such a shame we never got to see most of this realised in the final movie
Magnificent! Thanks Nick!
I wish these came with the names of the stunt performers.
So someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but could the guys be Ben Cooke, Michael Byrne, Nash Edgerton and Kyle Rowling? Do we know the woman's name? At first I thought it could be Mousy McCallum, but I don't know...
I think you are correct on all counts!
Thanks Mr Gillard. Big fan .
man, palpatine's fighting style looks raw and deadly, everything he does, as he always seems to be going for the kill.
Fascinating! So this is when Palpatine was using Anakin's saber and Mace disarmed it back to him.
Great work, Nick. Superb!!
素早らしい！殺陣のフルバージョンはとても有難い😆
Hello Nick! Do you have more raw videos of Ray Park 1997, training for the Phantom Menace? very good material everything you upload, thanks 🎉
Wow, awesome. Thanks for posting this.
absolutely brilliant choreography. thanks for sharing!
Thank you for sharing this here Mr Gillard. I liked the duels in the prequels very much. Was there ever a plan to show the duel between Cin Drallig and Anakin Skywalker which is briefly seen as a hologram in Episode 3?
This is incredible. Thank you for doing this!
All of these cut fights are better than what made it into the actual movie.
Palpatine’s malevolent sharpness has Mace on the back foot
Crazyy cool, thanks for uploading Nick 🤘🤘
Thanks again master, for sharing such knowledge with us.
This actor plays mace is actually playing Dooku in test fights.
This stuff is gold. Greetings from Worthing nick
I always love that move at 0:32.
Edited: The stuntman has the force, y'all. Timestamp is 0:58.
The strike at :52, that is in the movie but you dont see Mace get injured in the leg. And though you dont see him get injured, there is a specific sound effect when Palpatine slashes down towards Mace. Always confuses me
Yes more content your the best Gilard!!!!!!
This fight scene actually makes it look better because it was really quick so even skilled jedi could be easily beaten.
In the actual duel they seem evenly matched and it is ambiguous whether Palpatine threw the fight. Here, Palpatine is clearly superior and likely did throw the fight.
Incredible choreography and performance 🙂👍
EPIC! Great Work, Nick and Stunt Team!
So was there a deleted scene of cin drallig vs anakin skywalker that you did in revenge of the sith because all i saw was anakin fighting you as cin drallig in a hologram and it cuts to yoda and obi wan ?
It makes sense that this fight was also planned to be longer like the ending fights, I really wish we could get a recut of this movie that would be like Zack Snyder's Justice League where the full vision is restored lol
What a shame this was cut, so much better
We need an updated PT with these extended saber battles added back in , updated effects, and maybe even new dialogue scenes (with deepfake tech nowadays, they could easily de-age a lot of the PT actors).
What is the stuntman playing Palpatine wearing? Give me the name of the clothes!
Ayyy Kit Fisto survived alittle longer!!! Still waiting on justice for our boy!!
I wish we had this fight instead. Remarkable.
Amazing! Thanks for sharing!
That's actually cool to see how the fight would have been
Having Mace continue fighting after multiple saber wounds would have made him even more badass somehow
Ya nick...I wish all your work was shot like this or at least all in the films
Do you have a anakin vs cin drallig test that we could see?
If it hadn't been for the editing when the fight begins, it would have looked much better
What have you done Geaorge ? Now we need a Special Edition of prequels to fix them. Such a waste of great fight choreography. Well just a few years and Fan edits /* films will be the same production level quality as movies today.
I like what we got but man is this impressive.
I really wish this is what we got in the film.