Broke my wife's new PC over a BIOS UPDATE?!?!
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There's a reason why there was a warning why you should not update the bios to that version if you have a pinnacle ridge cpu (ryzen 2000 series) because the latest bios removes support for those cpus so it can add ryzen 5000 support, try a ryzen 3000 cpu (not apu since their based on pinnacle ridge) and see if it posts with that
this^^^. also in defense of the board there are a lot of boards from other brands that dont have flashback or dual bios either. I own 2 steel legend boards and i absolutely love them. Also i always make sure my board is going to support the cpu i buy b4 i buy them and i don't flash any bios that the support page warns you against. I feel like people would have issue's a lot less of the time if they just did their due diligence and bought compatible parts and didnt try to install the wrong bio's updates for.
I'm not arguing against extra features like flashback or dual bios im just saying its not just an ASROCK thing. I have asus b450 boards that also don't have these features and honestly my asus boards die much more often which is why i go with asrock. I love asrock because for what you pay you get a good amount of features and it doesn't look like shit like some other branded boards out there.
@@kotaspremiere2931 it varies by model honestly b450 is low tier and b450m is probably even more stripped down... for the form factor.. you are totally correct you get what you pay for. something like dual bios i would imagine is not common until midrange plus. It used to only be on overclocking focused boards. Just for fun, I have an as rock am3+ or whatever motherboard that still works great however it remains the only motherboard I have ever failed a bios update on... had to pop the chip out and order a new one since I couldn't find anyone to flash it nearby.
@@brianm.595 yes, and i would also like to point out that we are talking about one persons experience. Ive had shittier experiences with my gigabyte pro wifi and my rog strix board than my steel legend boards and i would say thats my experience. My arguement here is that just because one person has a bad experience with something doesn't mean the whole brand is bad in comparison to others. You have to consider pricepoint to feature set to quality among other brands and many other factors. sample size matters a lot in these situations as well.
If you do the research you will actually see that FOR the form factor and price the b450m steel legend is actually a very good choice. You get a lot of good things in that formfactor for that price in comparison to other choices in that tier. Im not saying other brands are trash and i would like to point out that i agree with what you say so i guess im just trying to further point out how i feel about the situation. I just want to express that all brands have their own pros and cons at certain price ranges and i think the steel legend line is popular for a reason which can be easily discovered through reviews and feedback all over google and places like newegg or forums. Not having dual bios on these lower end boards shouldn't be an issue limited to a specific brand when other brands do the same thing.
If dual bios is so cheap to put on a board then we should be arguing that it should be on ALL branded boards at the low tier range.
True
Guys... guys... HE IS AN EXPERT!
"I'm mad today because I'm Timmy Joe..." lololololol
i use that excuse every time
Your wife probably thinking "well it WAS working fine and you just had to mess with it Timmy" ! :)
Yeah, Bios update, OC, why???
@@Loverboy6027 Cuz he likes to tinker! :)
So did you install the Ryzen 5000 series support BIOS that removes all earlier Ryzen support?
Most likely
Definitely, not a bios prob.
The board probably had a very old bios on it and if you flashed the most recent without any subsequent ones and only the most recent it most likely was incompatible. If you followed the *before updating this bios, please also read the description in the previous BIOS version* back far enough you'll see it will say update to this bios before updating to the most recent one.
Rookie mistake. take your time next time. read the fine print always. cheers
I was thinking something similar, he probably didn't read the instructions and notes. These bios update files thanks to ryzen fragmentation have exceptions now as the previous comment mentioned. Or..... i was just giving him the benefit of the doubt that it did brick during the update process, because that can happen too.
"rookie mistake" 😬
Newest BIOS version removes support for some older CPU that's why there was a note on webpage to not update to it with certain CPU series.
Someone didn't watch the whole video 7:30
@fred brown Yea :P
I read that also; A long time ago. If your PC is working and having no issues. Leave the Bios alone.
Agree
Still advice to live by. Although nowadays you *should* be fine on most boards that aren't bottom of the barrel cheap.
Put a supported cpu in it , i literally did the same exact thing with same board and a 2700x , i had to send it back to Amazon. Pretty sure that board doesn't support pinnacle ridge cpus after the bios update. Try putting a newer cpu in it
Exactly my thaught, bios chips on have so much space so to add ryzen 5000 support means they have to remove ryzen 2000 support, same thing happened when bios updates came out to support zen 2 cpus where they removed ryzen 1000 support, fairly common practice with motherboards with mulitple cpu generation support
@@theman56 to be fair I don't think Timmy Joe every claimed to be an expert, but I will admit that his ignorance and lack of research on hardware tends to really wind me up from time to time
Edit: NVM, just rewatched the video and he does indeed say he's an "expert" >.
it would be really cool if you actually did show how to revive the board or at least trying to with the bios programmer.
CH341A with a 1.8v adapter (no voltage mod needed since the adapter takes care of the design flaw in the 341a in which it pumps 5v through the data lines) I've never had to do it myself but its not too bad with a portable linux distro or there is a windows version that's a little harder to find. if it has Intel lan you may have to do some editing of the bios file the manufacturer gives you and you will loose the serial number that is stored in the bios as well in some cases.
I think it's Adamant I.T that does that kind of work on his channel
ah yes, when you're an expert and skip all the warnings and research before you run a bios update because you've done it hundreds of times. I'm sure from now on you will check before doing an update. Happens to all of us. Hope you get it fixed in the future, would be a nice project.
So did you install the wrong bios or what? The explaination on what happened was a bit sketchy. I would like some of the features added in later versions of my asrock bios, but my older AMD chip wont work if I go past a certain version. Did you just not read the warnings or what?
The bios he flashed doesn't support pinnacle ridge cpus after update. I did the same exact thing with same board.
@@SnorryHobo Guys like him and you are the exact reason why AMD wanted to bar any 400-series board from 5000/Vermeer support and did only reverse their decision once enough people protested. In hindsight they probably should've kept their course. 😬
RTFM also applies to BIOS updates. I mean, it's highlighted on the website and every release is littered with warnings. Can't fault ASRock for self-negligance.
I once let a person do three BIOS updates in succession just to be safe, even if two might have sufficed. Better to wait/read a few minutes than brick your board.
So he just ignored the multiple warnings and installed the latest bios... Well that's totally his fault. I dont think this is an asrock only issue? I recall when they started adding support for the extra CPUs it depended on if there was room to add the new CPU IDs to the bios or not. Some boards had room in their bios to keep the old and add the new, but you would think someone that fixed PCs for a living would be aware of this issue and not make such a dumb mistake. As someone that been through the asrock bios update process I think it warns you at least 3 times during that process that you can brick your system...
You really should do a video trying to flash the Bios with the AliExpress bios tool. Tech yes city Brian did a video on this ages ago, I think.
A video trying to fix it would help a lot of people with the same problem.
That thermal paste application really reminded me of the verge ^^
Hmm new meaning for "expert" ;)
'expert' = 'has-been drip under pressure' (ex-spurt)
I don't know about Asrock, but I've RMA'ed Asus motherboards with no box, no receipt, no nothing, just registered the serial number with them through the website and the date codes showed up as still available for warranty. It could be worth contacting Asrock's support department, you might still be able to get it serviced even without any accompanying paperwork.
"I'm an expert". Proceeds to update bios to a bios that doesn't support CPU he's using. If you're using 2000 series you should be even more embarrassed since 3600mhz is basically impossible before 3000 series 😅. "I'm an expert"
Thats what I am thinking..
Asrock Bios chips usually have a label with the bios version when it came out of the factory on them (like P2.60 or something) and i think it's located above the pcie x1 slot on that mobo. Try the eeprom flashing tool, will be interested to see if you can save it.
Great video. You can make any subject entertaining, Timmy Joe.
hi timmy, thanks for the content! if it was easy than everyone would do it
I have bios flash back never needed to use it yet but glad I have it incase I need it
Went from a 2600 to a 5800x on my asrock. Had to borrow a friend's 3600 to complete it. Not a big deal for me, but I could definitely see this being an issue for someone who didn't have access to a 3000 chip.
Also, I really like Asus and bios flashback. Definitely using them in the future if I ever need another mobo
What i learned from this video is dont get a ASRock Motherboard because they lack features everyone else has
Get yourself an CH341A external BIOS flash programmer, you'll be able to reflash it. Little bit fiddly, but you'll feel like John Connor out of Terminator 2 with that ribbon cable attached onto the chip haha :P
Make sure it has the clip attachment.
Just saw you mentioned it... hop onto eBay, they are like £7 here in the UK. 30 CAD is waaaay too much.
And now you know why I add an extra "S" to their name between the 1'st S and the R. Had troubles with all 3 that I've owned. Granted those were hardware issues, like the halfway soldered Dimm4 memory slot, to the AMD4 CPU lever popping off after 3 uses, to the chip set heat sink falling off because the chip got too high temps and melted the plastic tabs holding it.
Hmm my old comment seems to have been deleted but I bought a mb with this same issue from a seller in Hamilton where he said it failed after a bios flash asrock b440m pro4.
As you saw on ebay the ch441a progarmer + the 1.8v adptor and the clip are what you need to fix the board.
found a clearer picture the bios chip on the steal legend is in the area right above the m.2 close to the 3.5mm audio ports. There is even a header.
Esit edit nsc modz has software and a tutorial on his channel that I followed for the ch341a
Edit edit edit
The clip has a arrow to mark pin1 and the chip should have a dimple on it to mark pin one. If that was not coverd in the video.
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lol one time i bought a new cpu and thought i needed a bios update, bricked my mobo, it froze during the flash lol, and then found out i didnt even need the new bios for my new cpu, gg.
Asrock boards are a pain to update the Bios but the boards are solid
i corrupted the bios on my x370 c6h aswell because i stick another 16gb ram on it but didnt remove docp profile so it got corrupted.. bios flashback didnt worked.
luckely after removing EVERY CONNECTOR on the motherboard and letting the bios battery out for a whole DAY, it just resettet.
try this out!
From what I understand you have to update Asrock bios' incrementally. Each update doesn't include all of the previous changes. So, for example, you might need to update from v 3.2 to v 3.5 to v 4.6 to v 5.2. I could be wrong about this but it's how Asrock's download page makes it seem, if I am wrong I would appreciate correction on this. I've upgraded the bios on numerous ASUS boards and at least one MSI and never had an issue but I'm terrified to update the bios on my wife's PC because of the info I see on Asrock's website.
Oi, if you are interested in attempting to fix the motherboard with an external flasher I can help with providing software and links (maybe I'll put up a post somewhere idk) I've worked with the BGA to LGA 1151 CPU's and have bought a few from the supplier that gave Linus the samples he used in his video's so I'm no stranger to using the ch341a. About to go and fix two bios chips on a gigabyte dualbios board after my programmer fried them due to its design flaw.
This example right here, is exactly why JayzTwoCents made his video about motherboard features that need to be in the board, regardless of what "level" of board it is. I mean, my piece of advice is, will be the same as Jay's, don't update your bios, unless you have that safety net of a dual bios, or a flashback switch. If you're in Timmy Joe's position, just don't do it. If it means you have to buy an X570, to get that kind of feature, so you can run your Ryzen 5000, its the best way forward. If you need help, don't be afraid to ask, there are many out there that can help (though vet them first, lol).
I dunno, I have no experience with asrock, but every time I think about buying one, alarm bells go off and a day or two later there's another horror story. Its not often, and I am not scared (hell I bought a generic X58 board) but just something about Asrock tweaks me. PS: I have gigabyte amd athlon XP boards with dual bios pre dual core days and ASSROCK keeps it as a premium option (alarm bells)
Hey tj now may be a good time to mention, super random but with my Asus strix b550f wifi motherboard and ryzen 5800x 4000mhz ram I had to update my bios to the newest before it would allow my PC to boot with xmp set on for my ram. Before bios update it'd only let ram go to max of 3200mhz for some reason
welcome to asrock bios upgrade issues. Been doing this stuff for over 20 years as a tech and i have 2 dead asrock b350 boards from updating bios. Its common.
Asrock swaps bios for some CPU and APU if you put the wrong bios on it the board won't work on it if you get the right CPU that the bios go with you can save the board if you have an older ryzen in it won't work with newer bios so if you have a newer ryzen chip try it in the board it will give you chance to reflash it.
I would of just overclocked the ram manually instead of using the xmp profile.
You just HAD to touch it after it was working fine, didn't you?
My friend Gigabyte had dual BOIS for longer the Core 2. I had it on my 2002 socket 478 P4 board (my very first MoBo that I bought). And the one of the chips was removable. So if you did bugger up both BIOS you could still fix you double mess up.
I used to do extreme overclocking on LGA 775 boards, the gigabyte one I had was amazing, a simple thing really makes the experience better, now I have the exact same motherboard he has and I will not update my bios unless I get a 5000 series cpu
Happened to me with a perfectly fine working MSI A320M motherboard which I was trying to upgrade to support 3000 series to install my R5-3600 had to buy a new motherboard and this time I made sure to get one with the BIOS flashback feature.
Wow, that sucks. Asrock is a name that I've heard nothing but bad stuff of. Even the budget boards are a pain in the ass. Honestly, I'd buy a different brand of motherboard and I wouldn't touch asrock at all. Now that I have bios flashback, I will never buy a motherboard without it. It saved my ass when I had a bad MSI bios. Never let MSI dragon centre update the bios, always do it manually. It corrupted my bios, I'll never let software update the bios, I'd rather do it myself now
Easy to criticise but I think most of us who have been doing this for a while have shared that feeling of intense frustration cos we know we just done f*cked-up! 🤬
Yeah updating BIOS can ruin everything sometimes... I really don't touch it unless I have to.
Yes absolutely if there isn't anything wrong there's no need to
The thing about those ASRock BIOSes is that a lot of them require you to update to a specific version first. If you try to go to the latest, it will brick.
lol I never use XMP just set the four major timings and voltage and mem clock manually, done.
Not sure why, but manually setting timings usually results in far less boot loops when training memory. Also, I like to get every bit of latency down, so I can usually get better results than XMP. I almost feel like XMP/DOCP was made for newbs.
So ok I have an asrock an x570 Taichi. After I updated my bios I COULD NOT boot on 3600 Corsair vengeance sticks. Had to down clock to 3200 to get it stable. Thought it was just me then my brother updated his for REBAR and and now his 3200 MHz won’t run stable. I think these rebar bios updates are messing things up with ram idk I’m not a pro
Ps my brother has a b450f from asus rog
It could be the Ryzen 5000 bios update
the usb programmer tool costs like 3 bucks:)
I love "I'm a freaking expert" in the context of a complete failure.
Timmy joes playing with fire in doors yet again
“An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made in a very narrow field.”
yep, pretty much fits the bill of expert
@@x3roxide Well that's incorrect. An EXPERT is someone who has made all the mistakes in a given field, and then LEARNED NOT TO MAKE ANY OF THOSE MISTAKES EVER AGAIN.
@@thelogician9879 true, although it is kind of implied.
I don't think Tim will do this mistake again 🤣
I have that MB, and also issues with xmp. I started with 16GB of 3000 ram, worked fine even OC'd to 3200. I added another 2 sticks of the same ram now I have to underclock to 2933 to avoid BSOD.
Same problem with mine. Well almost mine just freezes itself and reboots but need to keep ram on 3000nhz cant oc for shit.
Its just crap motherboard.
@@RaPtOr9600 to be fair I can't tell the difference, but the bsod's were really annoying until I worked out what the issue was and found a point that it would work.
And the MB does suit my build .
@@markboz3366
Yes its great looking motherboard its just, cheapened out by some components.
😒 buddy, i know, u know, its Asrock, cmon
Remember the days when bios chips were virtually always socketed instead of soldered? Bricked bios? No huge deal. You just order a new bios chip that's preprogrammed with the latest bios. Soldered with no backup/recovery method is literally the worst possible bios solution.
I have b450 steel legends and well i will never ever buy another Asrock motherboard.
weird issue with motherboard
- Audio output is lowest of any motherboard i owned
- It randomly reboots itself but only at windows startup, maybe once in a 4 days
- Cant OC for shit ( Ryzen 2700 )
- No dual bios ? or bios flashback i mean i even didn't check when buying i was thinkig we were past that point and that is like standard to have bios recovery but no no flash bios power goes out motherboard is dead
- Their page and bios support and support in general is garbage and stuff from HORRORS, in downloads section here its a bios BUT PLASE DO NOT UPDADE THE BIOS in capital letters.
Its just weird board, from start when i unbox it i saw that motherboard and foam under board its hold down by zip ties, and i didn't received any outer sleeve of the box just inner box with Asrock logo.
And what is funny that was my second board first one bas MSI B450 gaming pro and only 2 of four dim slots worked, so i RMA it and was forced to by Asrcok.
Totally screwed my build 2 years ago.
UPS when doing BIOS updates, definitely if there is no backup BIOS. 👍
Pro Note: To really ensure you wont corrupt your BIOS Flash, use a UPS. Almost happen to me year ago were I updated my BIOS and 2 minutes later the power went out. I've been using a UPS ever since on all 3 of my PC's. And a bonus to having a UPS. When the power does go out I can still use my PC watching a movie or listen to music during power outages. We have them happen quite often where I live. So having a $150 dollar 1500VA UPS is convenient worth the money to me. Also when I was using DSL I was still able to use the interwebs for a long while during an outage since the monitor, speakers, modem and router are also connected to the UPS.
I'm guessing I'm not gonna be first to write this but you installed what's know as "beta" bios, it removed support for all 2000 series CPU according to ASUS website, you can still use 3000 and 5000 series CPUs, if it's same as on my motherboard you can not downgrade your bios, so you are stuck with that bios(without any external tools like EEPROM).
I just went through this with an Asus b350 Tuf gaming am4 motherboard, I replaced it with a gigabyte and tried to reflash the chip "to no avail" and am now waiting on a new bios chip to see if that fixes it, I added the serial, mac address and uuid to the new file with hex edit but it still didn't help. But be careful with a CH341A, you have to modify it because the data pins are not regulated at 3v they output at 5v which I later found out after ruining my 1.8v chip on my Asus "even though you probably shouldn't try to flash a 1.8v chip at 3v either" I would look at a EZP2019+ probably the best hope for fixing it.
I Am using X570 Arous Master and When i updated my BIOS/UEFI to f30, I always do one BIOS/UEFI at a time.
Just for piece of mind. To avoid situation like this.
RIP BM (ASUS). :(
There is an uncanny level of irony of you bricking your wife's PC while also being an expert..
Live and learn, it's all we can really do at the end of the day...
I always have my systems on a battery backup in general and although updating the bios should be fairly quick that isn't always the case. I recently updated my z490 bios to enable Resizable Bar and that bios took a long ass time, longest bios update I've ever done. I didn't time it but if I had to guess about 10 min. Most bios updates take like 2 min tops.
TechYes did this, bios chip flashing I mean, very fidgety. Yeah, you screwed yourself over, smaller bios chip - problems with jamming as much cpu support as possible and with that come bugs and removal of features.
I had problems with a Ryzen 5 2600 and DDR 3200 MHz and random crashes with XMP on a Gigabyte A320M-S2H. I used XMP and set memory to 3000 Mhz and it worked fine.
Okay look, I’ve watched you for years now. Whenever putting a build together I’ve always flashed the bios to new, but yeah idk now. If you had problems, anyone can.
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max user here in the earlier BIOSes updates I've had a cold boot with GSkill Ripjaws V 3200mhz CL16 16GB RAM on 2700x, but now in the latest versions I've never had any problems since then. Also if it's an issue with the Case CPU & GPU fans just use Argus Monitor you are gonna thank me later. Except if your Mobo is giving you any BSOD in Windows or maybe your Mobo is bricked then I don't know what to tell you. Just reset the goddamn BIOS always regardless if you made any change to CPU overclock or Memory timings.
BIOS BLOCKER GETTING IN THE WAE ?
TRY TIMMY JOES CURE
DONT BUY A MOTHERBOARD THAT DOESNT HAVE A DUAL BIOS !
help is needed for an upgrade - but no one can find the parts - what do you do ?
buy back what you sold at twice the price you sold it ?
hmmmm
give me a second
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I had a motherboard that BIOS a update failed, luckily I new the distributor so got the EPROM reflashed
From then on I switched to Gigabyte and never had a problem in decades
Then last year accidently flashed my BIOS with the Z370 AORUS ULTRA GAMING WIFI BIOS instead of the Z370 AORUS ULTRA GAMING WIFI-OP BIOS
Freaked out but then remembered I had dual BIOS, sorted
Steps I'd try,
Try diff ram
Try diff cpu
Each reboot Try holding reset for 10 seconds with power complete unplugged.
Lastly Try ram mixing too. May force reset the bios.
Two take-aways from this:
1. Be careful when updating BIOS on B450/X470. If you have a Zen or Zen+ CPU you might entirely remove support for those CPUs on your motherboard with the wrong BIOS version
2. Always, always, always check memory QVL list for your specific motherboard
Literally have the ASRock mobo in my cart on Amazon and a pink case for my kids' PC. Likely going with the TUF mobo instead! I have a Gigabyte B450M Aorus in another PC but this is getting a 2700 I have laying around and the Gigabyte VRM temps struggle with a 3400G on light overclock.
Another good video! If only I could get a 6700XT to replace the RX 580 for this build!
I updated my ASUS TUF B550 BIOS recently and when I reloaded my saved overclocking profile it had my SOC voltage set at 190,000V lol.
I bricked my computer last week watching Netflix (it crashed made a weird sound & win 10 wouldn't load) now I'm 99% certain it's the motherboard but I don't want to spend £150 on a new B550 and then find it the CPU. It had been playing up specifically on Netflix for a while now then my USB's started playing up then it crashed. Checked the memory, GPU, and SDD's as I have spare for all these and it will not install windows it reboots any were from 8% to 70% over and over. Fortunately, I have a 10-year-old Dell XPS laptop that I'd just refurbished that has kept me going until I rebuilt my old FX 8350 and it fine but I miss my R5 3600 so much.
I just don't know what to do I can't sell the 3600 until I know it's not broken but I'm not enthusiastic about getting another MB to find out it's the CPU at fault. Oh, and it does post fine and will boot to windows if I put in a blank SSD window's 10 build but is not stable at all and crashes quite quickly. I've bios flashbacked it and removed XMP and change the ram and it still won't run stable.
One last thing and it didn't use to do this but no matter what bios you put in it the MSI boot picture artifacts.
I had this same issue with my asrock aqua x570 earlier this week. did the update on the bios with a 1600 in there to get it up to date so i could add the 5950x cpu...and it tanked. Eventually had to pull the cpu, do a bios flashback...but that wouldnt work. Took me hours to figure out...the USB has to be in MBR mode, and when I would format it, it was not in MBR. Once I changed the usb over to that, it actually worked like a charm.
TLDR - make sure the USB is in MBR before using it for bios flashback, because when you usually formalt them, they go GPT, and that WONT work with flashback
I am using a asrock z490 taichi $650AUD motherboard. And it sucks arse. Rgb sync is wonky, installing my old nvme with old windows in it wont boot. Audio nahemic software is bugged AF. If I install mobo audio my Razer 7.1 would stop working. Etc many issues.
I was using msi Godlike x99 and it was ahead of it time.
Really wouldnt recommend asrock for high tier purchases.
Msi, gigabyte is always the best option.
You're correct about clearing CMOS before flashing a new one on, but I always make a backup of my profiles on the same USB stick to keep good OC's and tight memory timings etc..
Not only does it stop conflicts within the BIOS options table, but it also frees up valuable CMOS memory because it clears all the BIOS profile, CSM(Compatibility Support Module) and TPM(Trusted Platform Module) data that can screw an OS install. I have made the mistake in the past myself....and it cost me.😒
Maybe you´re not that much of an expert, looking at how you treat your hardware. The quality of your videos has degraded.(RX6900XT vs RTX3070) I have owned 1 X370 Asrock motherboard. Not a pleasent experience but i have not bricked a single board from S939 to this date out of a bios update. I still hope you get it fixed.
Use BIOS reset jumper or switch to clear BIOS settings. Remove RAM and install generic 2133MHz single module. When you swap RAM system config will have to change on boot. It could help go back to defaults if it's a problem using that specific RAM kit.
Non-booting is not bricked.
I even had a 965p chipset Gigabyte motherboard with Quad BIOS. Gigabyte does it on all motherboards. There are removable BIOS chips on Asus motherboards. You can reprogram it with an EEPROM device or just buy a new BIOS chip and replace it. There is only one explanation for it. They want our motherboards bricked.
I had this same thing happen with a ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming4. I updated it for a customer. He asked for the newer bios and it had the same warnings. It did the same thing. I managed to save it due to having the eprom hardware already. He saved up some money and bought a Asus Z390-E. Updated bios with no problems. Everything works fine now. Lesson learned: don't buy ASRock motherboards if you want to do any overclocking or xmp/docp. Way too much hassle and not great stability.
i had an ryzen 2700 non x before my 5800x and a 4 x8 gb ddr4 3600mhz cl16 skill trident rgb non neo and never i mean never, i was able to run anything higher then 2933mhz , i had an x470 msi gaming, nope then updated to x570 msi pro gaming carbon, nope then the motherboard broke, changed it to a Msi x570 UNIFY (i love msi bios) and again nope never got it to work at 3600mhz with any bios, it was only when i finally got a 5800x (took 3 month) i was able to get xmp working
I have pretty much said Fornicate you to asrock. Updating polychrome nearly bricked my X570 Taichi. Asrock's tech support told me to uninstall and reinstall polychrome .. even after telling them I couldn't get into windows. I had to use a second system to fix my SSD and after a week of fighting was able to use the Taichi again. Last stimulus I got a gigabyte Aorus Master and the Taichi in in a HTPC with an APU. I won't buy from them again. Also 1 bios update in 10 worked.. Beta ones were better then official.
Oh that is sad. I hope you can fix the motherboard later on maybe. I wish they still would have removable BIOS chips in a little socket. I once bought one preflashed as a replacement cheap on Ebay for a weird acting Sandy bridge motherboard but it had some other problems (but it was around 15 bucks, so worth trying). Fun fact: I also played and finished The Stick of Truth over the easter weekend, but on my XBOX 360. Cheers and good luck, stay healthy through this times. Greetings from Germany
I don't think your BIOS on that board is the problem. If you used a Ryzen 1X00, 2x00 or a 3200G/3400G (Zen 1 and Zen 1+). That's your problem. You flashed it to a BIOS that only support Zen 2 and Zen 3.
A friend of mine flashed the BIOS on his MSI motherboard using Dragon Center and it hosed his PC. Fortunately it had BIOS flashback and I was able to restore it and install the new BIOS from a thumb drive instead of that crappy Dragon Center software. When it was all said and done he didn't even need the update because it was for enabling compatibility with Ryzen 5000 CPUs and he has a 3600X and no plans to upgrade it.
Timmy i had a Asrock board B450Pro 4 did the latest bios update with a Ryzen 2700x it worked until the chipset started smoking I shut down the machine before any damage was done while I was playing RUclips. By the way that's the second Asrock board I had that caught on fire either from hard use of hours of RUclips lol or a simple bios update. People think you made a rookie mistake which isn't the case. Asrock is just a Shitty company with horrible RMA which they know defiantly. It took me a month before Asrock got back to me just to tell me I have to wait three months. Lol ended up getting a new computer
My Asrock B450M Pro4 Board got just the 5.00 Bios Update even it it sayed that it isnt recommended to do this with R 5 2600 CPU.
Anyway it is working well and after the flash i need to setup my specs that i made for running well and fast as possible.
The other Aourus Board it is a mini with one pcie slot and the first AMD Cpu R5 2400G is running the first Bios because it runns well and dont need a uneccessary interruption by crippling this board =)
Wow, sorry man, shame on AsRock for not putting in a dual BIOS or a back up method. Maybe check the warranty and tell them them that their motherboard is out of there.
They will accept the return.
Worst case scenario is they take the rebate $ amount off your refund.
I never had issue with that on Newegg, microcenter or Amazon in the past.
And Asrock will probably RMA it as well. You don't have say anything about bios.
Asrock is very helpful with my experience being a builder.
I have the same board but have not tested it yet (bought one off of Facebook as well for just $50 about three months ago). Slowly piecing my new rig together and read the Bios Update warnings from the website but wont flash until I check which version is installed. I still have a Ryzen 5 1600 laying around and also purchased a new Ryzen 5 3600 for a great price before they started going up in price. Sending you luck and hope it's only due to having the wrong gen processor.
This vid couldn't have come at a better time.
Was contemplating updating an AMI BIOS on an H55 and the whole ordeal seemed to be 50/50 on bricking the motherboard....will prolly just leave it be and try clearing CMOS
Just did the same thing on an old lga1155 mobo, the upgrade was definitely necessary as it was a itx board with a single pcie slot that couldn't support newer GPU's without the update. Luckily in my case, the bios chip was removable and I found a seller on Ebay that sells hundreds of older bios chip with the newest firmware for under $15. Installed it in 20 seconds and boom, brought it back to life.
I'm sure you would've already looked into it if yours is a removable one, but as for the programming tool, I think those are around $12 on Ebay and it's definitely worth a try considering theres nothing else wrong with the board
Hey Timmy, I did all of this last year. But as far as Gigabyte mobos, how about the Gigabyte ds3h b450... Went to build my wife a pc in April 2020. Got good deals before everything went through the roof. But one component took forever; the 3300x cpu. So over three months later, the cpu arrives and I installed it in the motherboard, and all was well for a couple hours. Everything seemed fine, but the turbo behavior seemed a bit erratic, so I figured a bios update would finish off that build nicely. Well, this gigabyte motherboard does not have dual bios, and this motherboard required removal of bios chip for programming, the chip clip would not work. So a bit of micro soldering later I had a working mother board again, but I needed to touch up the legs a bit on the bios chip. Well, this time i forgot to take out the battery for the bios. Bye bye chip. Then i bought replacement chips, only to find out the mobo is totally dead now.
And as stupid as it sounds, I got her the gigabyte ds3h b550 mobo instead. But hey atleast this one has flash back/bios recovery features, even tho it isn't a dual bios either. The other sleeps in its box in the garage, since it was over 3 months I never could have returned it
I have the same mobo. I think you flashen the 3.9 Pink version? I flashed my BIOS from 3.3 to 3.6 and then to 3.9 with my Ryzen 5 3600 and it worked fine, bus Ryzen 3600 was most stable on version 3.3. I flashed from 3.9 to 3.3 no problem.
ah yes. had the same problem with my gigabyte ab350 motherboard. Was working fine with my 3900x. And then i decided i want to flash the bios. After that it was just fans and no screen... bought a x570 motherboard. some time later i found a 1600x threw it in the ab350.. posted right away. Checked bios version was latest one... Lesson i learned is if it works well enough dont touch bios lol.
Is it really so badly bricked that removing the CMOS battery for a minute, replacing it. And then pressing F6 during boot doesn't get you to the bootup/DOS/non-UEFI version of Instant Flash ?
I bought the x570 Taichi and what I learned was the rgb software sucks and I've had a lot of problems. Guess I go back to buying sub $200 Msi boards. Today lesson just buy a b450 tomahawk :)
Man you are all over the place. Did you put ram sticks in other slots? Did you pull out the battery to reset cmos? Take gpu put, try with just one ram stick?
Been there many times.
The one time my pc bricked bios I was able to flash through usb luckily.
Ive had a motherboard before that had same issues and it was because of the ram not the motherboard. You totally faulted the motherboard before fully testing everything. You could have tried a different ram stick from a different pc as well.
Sounds like you messed up with xmp(overclocking ram) and bios should have been set back to default(clear cmos). Sometimes xmp also doesn't give enough voltage for xmp speeds and needs to be manually set.
you live and learn i guess, i have a b450m mortar that thing has a flashback which i am grateful for i played around with my ripjaws v 3200 and got the 3600 16 19 19 timing, there was an instance i had to clear the cmos but luckly everything worked after no problem.
With pcs i swear the more you play with them the more ways you find to screw something up got a quick question...
So i swapped out a gpu pc was turned off but i didnt flip the switch on the psu i think i touched the audio chip with the gpu and fried it???? can this happen how can i prevent this from ever happening again just turning off the psu completely or is there something else i should look out for?
New motherboard?? Take a picture of the eeprom chip, check it's voltage (some new eeproms are 1.85v) and then you just need a regulator, a lvl shifter, a raspberry pi and the relevant BIOS bud
I bought an eeprom programmer from Aliexprees for cheap (10USD iirc) and it saved a few boards, you don't need to use the chinese software that it cames with, there is an open source software on Github you can use called UsbAsp-flash github.com/nofeletru/UsbAsp-flash
Also, there is a few motherboards that on the bios chip doesn't have the legs exposed, in that case look for an SPI header, search for a pinout and connect it to the corresponding pins on the programmer. you can also use the GPIO pins on a Raspberry Pi using Flashrom.
I fubared the flash on my board last week, thought I could flash it quick with cpu swap and no heatsink, thermal shutdown 80% into BIOS flash= dead board. My lazy arse knew better, RMA for that motherboard 2nd time went well
Had a case where a PC I built for family member, the BIOS got itself wiped after the kid of the family played on PC in the morning, turned off properly, came back after school and it won't turn on. Flashback saved the issue.
this is the sort of issue AMD was trying to avoid when it was going to end support for the latest cpus in x470/b450.
myself, I will not buy another motherboard that does not support bios flashback or equivalent.
This motherboard is a litteral hot piece of trash.
I bought a used combo with it, known not to be working. Man said he updated the bios only for having the whole setup brick on him.
Tried different ram, cpus from 1st to 3rd gen. To no resolve.
I don't think you made a mistake Timmy, this motherboard shouldn't even exist because of how trash it is and I'm fairly certain they added these warnings because they know their motherboard bricks itself.