@Kenny Kovalski Ehhh, i mean, it screwed up the show a little with the thing taking billions of years, meaning it was most of his life. Like, how would he remember anything before that at that point? Other than that tho, it's a fantastic episode.
@@mv9370 It was obvious in the episode that the Doctor can't remember events previous to his 'deaths', so he only remembers the last few days - his current 'rejuvination'
My life is [REDACTED] sorta, but it's implied when he says "that's what I remember!!!" that he remembers his past selves followed by "always then" cementing that fact and you may be thinking "but perhaps he only remembers loosely or only that moment" but I believe he says something along the lines of "you don't understand, clara, I remember it all" HOWEVER time lords with enough exposure to the time vortex can probably remember more or something
@@mv9370 You may have missed this, but the entire thing takes place in the confessional dial, which had been explained as a tool for the timelords to give their last confession before being uploaded into the matrix (to find peace). You aren’t supposed to remember the events, but Rassilion turned it into a torture chamber and 12 ends up remembering everything right when he gets at the final door and is one confession away from freedom. I’m sure timelord memory can account for billions of years (they can literally live forever considering the high council can grant more regenerations). It also isn’t expanded upon whether the Doctor remembered EVERYTHING or just his death and that he’s been doing that for so long. Really, I think thats fine. A story like heaven sent can bog itself up getting caught up in the details. We know enough for the story and it works.
@@mv9370 yeah wait what haha? He didn't experience all 4.5 billion years, each new day was reset so he only remembers the final day where he escaped. He knows it had been that long but isn't like groundhog day where he consciously lived through each day It's vaguely implied in his mental construct he has an idea he's been in the loop and might somewhat remember, but still basically just the single day for him But I don't think it breaks anything I mean each loop it's like he just teleported in. Also it's all taking place inside the dial. Idk I think it's an amazing detail in for his character that he went through all that for literally as long as the Earth haha, exactly 4.5 billion years
Peter Capaldi was born to be the Doctor and that's not an exaggeration in the slightest. His doctor went from being cold, abrasive and Machiavellian to the point it would make his 7th incarnation blush to a genuinely warm, oddly human and profoundly honest character. See you around Capaldi and good luck Jodie, you have some big shoes to fill.
12 had some of the best character growth of any Doctor. Old, grumpy, and closed off made perfect sense after spending 700 years on Trenzalore. Over his run he learned how to open up again and accept himself, faults and all.
Interestingly enough, my thoughts on series 8 and 10 are completely reversed from yours. I find Series 8 to be a mixed bag with no idea what they want the Doctor to be from episode to episode, whereas series 10 is a nicely self contained collection of fun adventures with a criminally underrated companion, and finally, finally, finally, a definitive characterization for the twelfth Doctor, exemplified by his simple yet effective motto, "Do it because it's kind." Also, it has what is easily my favorite season finale since the Tennant Era. It's just brilliant in my eyes and is my favorite season of Capaldi's run.
Season 8 also had the disadvantage of relying heavily on the completely chemistry-less relationship of Clara and Danny Pink. Conceptually it could've worked, but did anyone genuinely buy for a second that those two were deeply in love? P.S. It wasn't that the writers had no idea who they wanted the Doctor to be *The new Doctor* had no idea who he was yet. Twelve struggled with that question for the whole of season 8 and it wasn't until the season finale that he finally came to terms with his new persona and realised _"I'm not a good man! I'm not a bad man! I'm not a hero! I'm not a President! And no, I'm not an officer! You know who I am? I am an idiot with a box and a screwdriver, passing through, helping out. And I don't need an army, I never have."_
It's good to hear someone so optimistic about moffats era of the show. He is most certainly my favourite showrunner as well and my god the capaldi era is wonderful. Great video as always my man
Capaldi is well suited to throwing a rager. Twelve isn't really. He gets grumpy and he gets snappy but the full on bombastic raging speech wasn't really his style...
Capaldi's doctor did have a temper tantrum, when he realized that Missy lied to him about where Gallifrey is located. You don't have to say anything while you're throwing a temper tantrum...
So with you on this! Incredible run for an incredible Doctor. Asked some deep questions about who the Doctor is. His speech on kindness basically summed up why people in public service do what they do....teachers, nurses, firemen...very grateful to Moffat for putting those notions back into the public blood stream.
I thought you were going to be so anti-Clara and it's refreshing to hear someone actually get her. She didn't love the doctor, she didn't want to get in his pants, she wanted to BE him. And that's awesome. No more making the Doctor into some kind of messiah guy, she and him were bad for each other and that was so refreshing to watch after years of the friends just falling in love with him. Still, I like Hell Bent and I think allowing Clara to finally have her goal was a good idea, but it shouldn't have been on Gallifrey.
@@mariar.3011I would say she loved him in a different way It’s obvious 11 and Clara were attracted to each other and maybe even had something going on romantically, but she loves 12 like a best friend
Capaldi is by far & away the greatest Doctor by a country mile. Thank you for speaking out against the cringe inducing sheep like mentality hate against him!!! He’s a perfect blend of Pertwee & Baker. He’s the essence of how the character was originally written. Your channel is incredible!! A very happy new subscriber here!!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
idk about the best, but hes for sure the best of nü who by a country mile. capaldi i dont believe got a fair shake in the part, he could have burned it down with good stories
Andy Kapsar very true squire!!With great writing he would absolutely nail it!!!I loved his sporadic nature! Do you think Jodie is fairing well?⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@@VERMISIMILITUDE ive not watched any of 13 yet, we dont have cable and i really dont want to pay for each episode, im not that compelled. ill wait for it to all be together on amazon before i give a fair shake to her.
Andy Kapsar good thinking squire.... I’ll say this... go in with a Davidson mixed with Tennant approach.... I think you’ll understand what I mean when you see it!
I suspect a lot of the people who don't like Twelve dropped out part way through season 8 while the show was (by design) still nailing the character down. That season is about exploring this new incarnation of the Doctor and both he and his companion trying to work out who he is now. And he's pretty unlikeable at times during this period. I can see a number of fans being turned off and quitting the show when he callously abandoned a companion in "Kill the Moon", for example.
Ah Twelve. My favorite Doctor of them all, and that's no small feat, because I each and every one of them to death. Personally I love all three of his series and they're among my favorites. I love his character arc, from harsh, confused and not caring enough, to goofy, self aware and caring too much, then finally to a happy medium. My five favorite stories! 5 - Under The Lake and Before The Flood 4 - The Magician's Apprentice and The Witches Familiar 3 - Mummy On The Orient Express 2 - World Enough And Time and The Doctor Falls 1 - Heaven Sent Also, by the way, he's SEXY AS F#CK. And I'm a straight man.
absolutely, that's how i'd rate my favorites too, except maybe with flatline instead of lake/flood, but it's been a long while since i rewatched series 9 and 10, so i dunno.
For me the best 5, in no particular order are 5. World enough and time/The doctor falls 4. Mummy on the orient express 3. Under the lake/before the flood 2. Pyramid at the end of the world 1. Heaven sent
+clockwork_harlequin the boneless are easily one of the most creative monsters in doctor who, along with the foretold, i just like a really powerful villain instead of one like Krasko from series 11 of where he gets shrekt by 13 almost effortlessly
I honestly cant thank you enough for standing up for this era of the show when so much of the fandom hate it, im not the only one who loves it and thinks 12s era is the best the show has ever been woo
I find it interesting how you’re so fond of Moffat’s stuff when some hate it, but whether that’s a popular opinion or not it’s great that you’re so honest about it. That’s something I have a lot of respect for.
Have you read the script for Oxygen, Sam? My God, that man can write. I'll die happy if I too can write *"foreshadowing ahoy!"* in an official BBC screenplay.
I loved Peter as the Doctor, I loved the season arcs, and even in the weakest stories, he gave a storming performance/speech. He elevated the material. That being said, I also loved Eccleston and Tennant for their acting chops too.
I almost teared up when you said "the subscribe to official Doctor Who" thingy.. Also in defense of "Smile"- the doctor couldn't know if reset button would fix the problem and the killing spree will not resurface again in the future. He saw the effect of one robot death on another, they showed their anger and confusion just like any other species when "one of them" died. Only then he was sure he could just erase all the memory of "keep humans happy" regime and let them be like a new species, in other words "a reset button". I know this is my excuse and the episode could've explained it better.
I grew up watching 11 as a kid and saw him as my favourite doctor, but then papa Capaldi came along and swept me off my feet. It was so sad to see him go and I really wish him and Moffat had stayed just a little longer. For me it's: 1: Under the lake/Before the flood 2: World enough and time/The Doctor falls 3: Face the raven 4: Heaven sent 5: The husbands of River Song
I was soo pleased with this list for most of the video, amazed with how much i related to your decisions, and then you put sleep no more at the bottom. Grrr
I have watched this video far too many times. But God, I miss Capaldi. Just watched Twice Upon A Time for the fourth or so time, and I cried even more than I had the previous three times. The moment Clara's voice and theme are heard, boom. Blubbering. I miss Capaldi. I miss Clara. I miss Nardole. And even Bill. This was for sure my favorite run of the show, and I'll be rewatching it for years to come.
Hearing you talk about the before the flood storyline made me realize it's one of my favorite DW episodes ever. It's very underrated, and Capaldi just shines the entire time.
Thank you thank you thank you for defending SM and Peters era!! I really hope Peter does Big Finish!! I agree 100% with you that people going to end up really missing Steven and Peter ! 12/Peter Capaldi is magnificent!! I adore Deep Time!! 12 forever!!
I thought Capaldi was amazing, he was just given a lotta crap to try and use. Moffat didn't really know what he was going for, it seemed like he was trying to copy Russell T Davies a lot imo. I mean CLEARLY Ashildir is an attempt to copy Jack Harkness, and even the episode she appears in is a rip off of one of Tennant's episodes.
I think season 10 is extremely underrated. The only bad episodes I can think of are Lie of the Land and MAYBE Smile. That's it! By far Capaldi's best season and maybe Moffat's. Though season 5 is really good too. Also Bill is SO much better than Clara, even though she's good in season 8. Bill is the most underrated companion I think ever.
I love Bill's personality, but as the series progressed she began to lose some of it which is a shame. Also The Pilot is very underrated especially the ending, it gets me so exiting and the lecture speeches show parallels to bills life which establishes her character very well. Also I don't think the lesbian thing is pushed to far at all she mentions women less than other companions.
What I loved about Bill was that after classic who we finally got that purely inquisitive companion again and the Doctor was in a teacher role (I wish that had been expanded on). Nardole was just an amazing foil to that and showed us the other side of 12 in series 10. Missy being part of the TARDIS crew (for like 10 seconds) was just a straight up wet dream for me. I wanted the show to continue in that direction from series 10 (and at least 1 more series of bill, nardole, and missy with 12). I definitely preferred them to 2.5 series of Clara being the ONLY companion. 12’s character hit its peak for me at the end of hell bent when he got in the TARDIS, got his sonic, and moved on from clara (not the best episode, but the beginning of the Doctor at his peak). The following series 9 specials and series 10 was just my favorite who era.
@@JollyOliW Honestly the Pilot shocked me with how fresh it was. Like I honestly came out of that episode feeling more like I was entering a new era of who than the series 11 opener. And nothing “really” happened (as far as alien invasions go). I think it’s a testament that you can write a compelling who story without shoving in a knock off predator.
I think Smile is one of the best NuWho episodes. Lie of the Land is really cool conceptually but I don't think they pulled it off right at all, but the first 2 episodes to that 3 parter are beautifully written in my opinion. Series 10 is the best NuWho series. *in my opinion.*
Capaldi is my favourite Doctor of the modern era, sure some of the stories had issues but Capaldi somehow manages to make even the weakest episodes of his era watchable. And when Capaldi's era was at its best it gave me some of my absolute favourite moments of the show. The quality of the episodes from his era may have been a mixed bag (though I really liked most of Series 9, despite Hell Bent), but Capaldi himself was consistently brilliant and I'd have loved to have seen him stay for another season or two.
I thought I knew all the spoilers from twice upon a time going in, but him getting Clara's face back made me so happy, and I couldnt help but shed a tear at the reveal of the soldier being the brigadier's father. Never thought it would be that amazing
Peter Capaldi was escellent as the Doctor. I think that when 'youngsters' go back in times to come to revisit his stories, having gained their own sense of time passing and experiences that come with it, they'll see he really developed the character of our so-loved champion. Flatline was a personal favourite, alond with his final three in which the Master/Missy also expresses how life can change you and for the better. Jon Pertwee was my Doctor, but Matt Smith and Capaldi under Moffat gave us a real depth that a kids show often can only dream about.
Capaldi was the Doctor who got me through High School. I miss him very much. But seeing Jodie in action, I know she's perfect for the role. And as for Twice Upon a Time, I think Capaldi was good, but it was a bit of a severe missed opportunity.
Finally, you updated it. I like the first iteration, but the second fits perfectly. I agree with Sleep no More, Hell Bent and The Lie of the Land aka The Monks Cop Out ( seriously wrecked the end of the Trilogy ), and In the Forest of the Night ( blows raspberries ) as my least favorites. I'm sure Jodie Whittaker will do fine as the 13th Doctor later this year, but believe me, Capaldi will be a tough act to follow, he is that dang excellent, and I love it. Great video update, you made my evening, thank you!!!
Been Rewatching Capaldi recently - the guy was absolutely stellar. Ive maintained the run from Eccleston to Capaldi (9,10,11 and 12) is possibly the strongest back to back run of actors the show ever had and Capaldi still shines. He was alien, ancient, wise, eccentric, intelligent and commanding. He was something super special to the show and Series 9 and 10 are among my favourites of all time. I still miss 12 to this dau
I think Capaldi was possibly the best actor to portray the character. As much as my favourite is Eleven, I think Capaldi was the best at his job... acting. Now, there’s never been a bad performance put to the Doctor, even Colin Baker has some stand-out moments where the script actually allowed him to act.
Capaldi is my favorite doctor also! He is everything I expect of the doctor. I'm so glad they got away from the romance stuff. Everytime I rewatch any episode of the 12th doctor, I know why he's my favorite. It's nice to see I'm not alone!
I feel like I agree with u about every single thing in doctor who. U actually give constructive criticism instead of going “diversity is killing doctor who” whenever a new character is added. Also can’t remember sleep no more either. I like series 10 more than u though and like series 9 less.
Capaldi was how I was introduced to Doctor Who and he is my favorite Doctor! Top 5 Episodes in no particular order: 1. Heaven Sent 2. Listen 3. Twice Upon A Christmas 4. The Zygon Inversion (that speech) 5. The Doctor Falls
i have lots of problems with moffat's writing during the capaldi era, but what you say at the start of this episode is so true and i think something to take note of for all future incarnations of the doctor. even when the writing's at its worst, capaldi STILL shines as this terrific, entertaining, and enigmatic figure. he almost single-handedly carried me through his time on the show with his engaging and impactful performance & personality; he needs to be utterly commended for being magnificent enough to transcend everything else that was wrong with the show at the time.
In my opinion, the seasons of Peter Capaldi’s Doctor got better each time, with 8 being not very good and 10 being really great and 9 somewhere in the middle. I think this is probably because I really enjoyed the storylines in 10, and I didn’t care so much about the (admittedly lacking) character development. I guess that’s just how the series connected with me personally
The show died in Twice Upon A Time, what called itself Doctor Who was a poorly written show about a terribly awkward so-called incarnation of the Doctor who would not even comfort a companion about their cancer-based worries.
Interesting that Capaldi is my favourite Doctor to, but I feel like we're total opposites. For me, season 8 is passable, 9 is pretty good and 10 is top tier. Our fave/worst episode list could almost be swapped. XD
I have to disagree with the Series 7 and "Hell Bent" hate. I get the disappointment of Gallifrey not being as big a deal in that episode as it could've been, but it gave Clara an infinitely superior ending. I'm glad we can agree she's the best companion and that Capaldi's two series with her are better than the "meh" Series 10, though :)
As much as we didn't want Clara to die, I don't think her ending after hell bent was superior, it kinda just showed Moffat has a problem killing characters, ironically, since what i've seen the fans hate him for is being to eager to kill characters. but between reviving Clara 2 episodes after a dramatic and final feeling death, and the thing they pulled with Bill in The Doctor Falls, he really can't give a companion a solid ending. That being said, I still do really enjoy his run. Not quite as much as RTD, but pretty close.
@@gryotharian Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, Moffat had his faults and I totally get why a lot of people prefer FTR, I just never felt that that the "reckless" thing ever really suited Clara, so having that be such a big part of her demise, coupled with what I feel are some pretty serious plot holes, irked me to say the least. The other factor for me is that HB seems to be the real ending he had planned all along, so it seems like a stupid decision to me to kill her off in a fake ending only to bring her back right at the end for the real one. They shouldn't have bothered with FTR and just done the HB version. I totally get where you're coming from, though. Also it's nice to see someone else who actually likes Davies AND Moffat, rather than picking one and throwing rocks at anyone who likes the other :)
SamyulDavis couldnt be more true, its just childish. Capaldi was such a good doctor and you explained why hes so good at the start!! Love your videos mate!!
How you feel about 12 is how I feel about 10. End of Time and even just the RTD era as a whole is something else to me. It's interesting to hear another, albeit different take on Who. I like hearing other points even if I don't neccissarily agree with them. It also may be a slightly colored opinion, as I do have a friend who I chat with about Who quite regularly with who hates everything Moffat wrote since 2011, but hey. What do I know? Though I will say when I write stories, I do write them more like RTD would even though they are certainly in my own style.
I have to disagree about Bill not blossoming into a good developed character. I think we got basically as good a feel for Bill as a character as we did any of the companions in their first season. She was familiar with scifi and tended to refer to their adventures through that lens. She was a companion with a very practical perspective. She asked things like why are the TARDIS seats so far away from the console. And rather than the usual "It's bigger on the inside!" reaction she had the much more natural initial response of assuming the doors led to a knock-through. She was also the first person to say that the TARDIS looks like a really posh kitchen - which it really kinda does. xD The Doctor was attracted to Bill because when she didn't know something she smiled rather than frowned. She adored the Doctor but was kind of embarrassed by him socially. She tended to just blurt things out rather than thinking it through. Even when they were travelling through time and space together, she continued to view the Doctor as her university professor and refer to him in that context. And she was a young gay woman who was perfectly comfortable with that - though that was really a much smaller part of her character than many people focused on. I've seen people complain about Bill's final words to the Doctor: _"You know how I'm usually all about women and, and kind of people my own age?", "Yeah?", "Glad you knew that"._ I thought they were perfect and very in character. The subtext to that comment was "You are neither of those things and you are the most amazing person I have ever met". The Doctor took a young, working class university student who had been mostly about university and socialising with other young people and opened up the entire universe to her. He was responsible for making her more than what she had "usually been all about". Bill was never going to be able to say all that eloquently and burying it in a jocular remark instead was very her style. Moffat can be very bombastic in his writing, and often that works brilliantly - but this was a wonderfully understated and natural bit of dialogue and it's a shame that some people just see it as "Bill constantly shoving it down our throats that she's gay".
For Best: 5. Flatline (Awesome monster design, really well done stand alone episode) 4.Dark Water/Death in Heaven (I know it definitely had it's issues, but I still loved it) 3. Magician's Apprentice/Witch's Familiar (I just really like Missy ok? And seeing the classic daleks) 2. Heaven Sent (Come on. Speaks for itself.) 1. World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls (My favorite DW story to date, probably some of my favorite episodes of TV in general, I had two problems, the first was the shit they pulled with Bill at the end, there was no reason for that other than Moffat not wanting to properly kill off companions, and the second was THEY SPOILED THE WHOLE EPISODE WITH THE SEASON TRAILER) For Worst: 5. Husbands of River song (Had it's good moments, and was a good way to close up river's arc, but the main plot of the episode with the cyborg dude was bland and pointless as all hell) 4. Into the forest of night. (silly and forgettable, and didn't make any sense) 3. The Woman Who Lived (I really hated ashildr already, adding space furries did not help) 2. The Eaters of light (started off promising, With scotland and romans and alternate universes, but left off just confusing and unexplained) 1. Sleep no More (absolute dumpster fire. who let this get past BBC.)
As much as I disliked many of the stories in Capaldi's era, no Doctor has ever inspired me or made me feel genuinely warm inside than Peter Capaldi's Doctor. Even if 12 had my least favorite episodes, 12 is my favorite Doctor.
I love Peter and as much as I like the ratings Jodie got (and well deserved), it makes me sad more people didn't watch. There were some epic moments, including what I consider the best episode ever.
In my reality, there was another season in between 9 and 10. After Heaven Sent and Hell Bent. A whole season is dedicated to the return of Gallifrey. A Time Travelling Bonnie & Clyde Season where River Song was Capaldi companion for a few early episodes with Nardole and where The Time Lords have issued a wanted bounty on The Doctor who is accused of being the infamous Valeyard after his actions of saving Clara. A season where Missy is hunting the two time travelling lovebirds and ends with an alternate death of River Song in the Tardis and where The Doctor was sent to the courts of the Time Lords as how the 6th Doctor have done. It dedicates the second half of the season on the Time War and The Day of The Doctor, with special cameos from previous Doctors and companions to testify The Doctor's innocence and prove that his reincarnation isnt The Valeyard with The Face of Boa being the ultimate callback. It ends with revealing that the real Valeyard was a clone of him that Missy has used and alter to unleashed chaos in the universe and dedicates a whole episode where Capaldi (Doctor) fights Capaldi (Valeyard). At the end of the season, Missy was sentenced to death as seen in season 10 and locked away for the now cleared of charges and celebrated hero, Capaldi who also helped restored River Song's death as well with a little help of an impossible girl. The Doctor then took up the position of professor at Bill's university and the rest of it was pretty much the same with more focus on Bill, Nardole and The Doc trying to stop The Valeyard with some help from a rehabilitated Missy that also ends with the death of Bill. Missy of course double cross them with the help of the Master and helps The Valeyard in his evil plans. Ends with an epic self sacrifice from The Doctor to end the Valeyard. Final christmas and regeneration episode is pretty much the same.
I felt like Series 10 was the most consistently good of Capaldi's run. His era is my favourite as well but Series 10 is just on another level and I feel like his relationship with Bill is superior to the one he had with Clara. I also love Nardole and the fact that Missy is a rather big part of the season. I do feel like Series 8 is very underrated though, with there being a few bummers but overall it's a really good season to me. And Series 9, except for the Me two parter, Sleep no More and Hell Bent, is great
Talking about giant spiders, that was literally the episode that aired yesterday. It was good but not great, the ending was a bit rushed, but I loved the science behind the mothers death because that's not even made up it's real.
Heaven Sent. Also easy to forget that Gallifrey's return hype was always going to be subverted, better it's not the focus of the episode. Now, the focus of the season... Yes.
@@MatthewsStopMotions extremis is probably my second favourite after the 2 parts of the finale for season 10. Pyramid is top 5 too. Lie of the land is a let down but parts 1 and 2 are stellar.
12 is my favourite doctor too and yet I have essentially the opposite opinion to you on the overall quality of each of his seasons, I find that interesting
Great to hear! It makes sense there's so much variety when his era kept mixing it up so often. I'm fully aware my series 8 Clara opinions are niche and weird. This comment was such a breath of fresh air after the hate-wave of political edgelords on the new one haha
World enough and time/ the doctor falls is my favourite Dr who episode ever!!!!!! (Human nature/the family of blood is a close second) I can't stress how much I love this episode!!!!!
series 10 to me feels like extra time, an epilogue rather than a full series. I feel like we should have got a season of him alone, kinda like tenants specials, I dunno I kinda felt like him and clara had a great chemistry and friendship, for him to suddenly get a new companion and throw her into danger again felt weird for his doctor
I'm one of those who enjoyed Hell Bent and didn't have a problem with Clara's "resolution." That said, I can certainly see every single complaint with the episode. Gallifrey being a throw away 1 episode location is such a waste of story potential. I never got into the story of Kill the Moon, but what it did do was provide a backdrop for character growth and that's the part I enjoyed. I thought Clara's falling out with the Doctor was brilliant and it was part of 12 learning how not to be a jackass.
Worst 5: 5. Doorway to Hell 4. Sleep No More 3. Pyramid at the End of the World 2. In the Forest of the Night 1. Twice Upon a Time (if I could put this worst twice I would) Best 5: 5. Eaters of Light 4. Dark Water/Death in Heaven 3. Heaven Sent 2. Magician's Apprentice/Witch's Familiar 1. World Enough/Doctor Falls
My personal top 5 is: 5) Deep Breath 4) Heaven Sent 3) Listen 2) Pyramid at the End of the World 1) World Enough and Time / The Doctor Falls Honourable Mentions: Into the Dalek, Time Heist, Mummy on the Orient Express, Face the Raven, Thin Ice, Oxygen, Extremis, Twice Upon a Time. I think Lie of the Land and The Doctor Falls is proof that Pearl Mackie was wasted by Moffat in Season 10.
Count Orlok nah it isn’t bad if u watch it. I do think smith is a better doctor which is why I felt a little weird about season 8 and at first rlly didn’t like it properly, but upon rewatching it without any bias it has some very good episodes and Clara is a little more interesting. Only problem I had was that the doctor was a little harsh telling Danny Pink to Shut up and telling that annoying little girl she isn’t special. I just always felt like I wanted to get back to the relationships and away from the adventures in certain episodes like the second episode ever.
@@cantorlok2815 "Lie of the Land" is terrible. It completely squandered the amazing buildup of "Extremis" and "The pyramid at the end of the world" that established the Monks as this clever, calculating enemy who was several steps ahead of everyone and a major threat to be feared. "Lie of the Land" spent half the episode waffling around (though Missy's revelation that the only known way to defeat the Monks was to murder Bill *was* a nice twist) then defeated the Monks with a convenient deus ex machina. It was always going to be challenging living up to that buildup, but Lie of the Land didn't even try. It approaches "The Power of Three" levels of pulling unconvincing last-minute solutions out of its butt. P.S. Kill the Moon is also bad, and actually for similar reasons - it made out like there was a really difficult choice to made with no easy solutions then went "just kidding!" at the end and undermined it all. -_-
I’’d say the worst are 5.hell bent 4.the woman who lived 3.sleep no more 2.The lie of the land 1.Forrest of the night Best are (and I’m missing loads cuz I love his doctor) 5.dark water/death in heaven 4.under the lake/before the flood 3.World enough and time/the doctor falls/twice upon a time 2.listen 1.Heaven sent
Capaldi was great. He was probably the best actor to ever take on the role. That said... his acting elevated weak material. By the time Capaldi came around Moffat felt like he had mostly checked out on the show and wanted to focus on making Sherlock properly bad, and Capaldi was left with substandard material. Even so, he made the words he was handed stand out, which hits me right in the heart since if he had been handed the material RTD could write... imagine the heights he'd have reached.
12 is amazing. Yes, he did have some shit episodes, but he was still great. I would put the list as: Best: 5. Last christmas 4. Mummy on the orient express 3. Oxygen 2. Hell bent 1. Flatline Worst: 5. Kill the moon 4. In the forest of the night 3. The woman who lived 2. Hell bent 1. The girl who died This is my opinion. I havent listened to any audios, and ive only ever read one doctor who novel (and it was a class novel) so there are all tv episodes in the list.
Enjoyed these vids. Subscribed. Low key though I'm here to slowly make you realise you're wrong, Capaldi was good and could have been great without the staggering anchors of Clara and moffat and the Tennant era was the best :D
I agree with a lot of this! I think heaven sent could have been done waaay better. I feel as though when 12 met Ashielda(?) At the end of the universe, he wouldn't have just walked away and accepted that he fucked up. Honestly I feel as though he probably would have ended her right there... I feel as though if he did this it would have made everything that happened afterwards (being him erasing his memory, finally ending it with river, maintaining the master...ect) all the more significant. From there they could have used series 10, AND THE WAY THE FINALLY PLAYS OUT AS CURRENT, to finally "heal" the damage he did to himself.
I think it's Ashildir, I get confused myself too XD I hated her though because she felt extremely forced. I think it was just a lotta wasted potential, and Clara was too forced into there as well.
Why isn't Heaven Sent on here???? Best. Capaldi. Episode. Period.
@Kenny Kovalski Ehhh, i mean, it screwed up the show a little with the thing taking billions of years, meaning it was most of his life. Like, how would he remember anything before that at that point? Other than that tho, it's a fantastic episode.
@@mv9370 It was obvious in the episode that the Doctor can't remember events previous to his 'deaths', so he only remembers the last few days - his current 'rejuvination'
My life is [REDACTED] sorta, but it's implied when he says "that's what I remember!!!" that he remembers his past selves followed by "always then" cementing that fact and you may be thinking "but perhaps he only remembers loosely or only that moment" but I believe he says something along the lines of "you don't understand, clara, I remember it all" HOWEVER time lords with enough exposure to the time vortex can probably remember more or something
@@mv9370 You may have missed this, but the entire thing takes place in the confessional dial, which had been explained as a tool for the timelords to give their last confession before being uploaded into the matrix (to find peace). You aren’t supposed to remember the events, but Rassilion turned it into a torture chamber and 12 ends up remembering everything right when he gets at the final door and is one confession away from freedom. I’m sure timelord memory can account for billions of years (they can literally live forever considering the high council can grant more regenerations). It also isn’t expanded upon whether the Doctor remembered EVERYTHING or just his death and that he’s been doing that for so long. Really, I think thats fine. A story like heaven sent can bog itself up getting caught up in the details. We know enough for the story and it works.
@@mv9370 yeah wait what haha? He didn't experience all 4.5 billion years, each new day was reset so he only remembers the final day where he escaped. He knows it had been that long but isn't like groundhog day where he consciously lived through each day
It's vaguely implied in his mental construct he has an idea he's been in the loop and might somewhat remember, but still basically just the single day for him
But I don't think it breaks anything I mean each loop it's like he just teleported in.
Also it's all taking place inside the dial.
Idk I think it's an amazing detail in for his character that he went through all that for literally as long as the Earth haha, exactly 4.5 billion years
Peter Capaldi was born to be the Doctor and that's not an exaggeration in the slightest. His doctor went from being cold, abrasive and Machiavellian to the point it would make his 7th incarnation blush to a genuinely warm, oddly human and profoundly honest character. See you around Capaldi and good luck Jodie, you have some big shoes to fill.
Ben Welsh Agreed!!
RIP season 11.
Ben Welsh You are talking utter shite.
12 had some of the best character growth of any Doctor. Old, grumpy, and closed off made perfect sense after spending 700 years on Trenzalore. Over his run he learned how to open up again and accept himself, faults and all.
And he wanted to be head of the fan club during the classic era
Interestingly enough, my thoughts on series 8 and 10 are completely reversed from yours. I find Series 8 to be a mixed bag with no idea what they want the Doctor to be from episode to episode, whereas series 10 is a nicely self contained collection of fun adventures with a criminally underrated companion, and finally, finally, finally, a definitive characterization for the twelfth Doctor, exemplified by his simple yet effective motto, "Do it because it's kind."
Also, it has what is easily my favorite season finale since the Tennant Era. It's just brilliant in my eyes and is my favorite season of Capaldi's run.
Bravo!
Poirot's Mustache I thought that at first but if u re watch it most of the episodes r great except a few bad ones like forest of the night.
Poirot's Mustache Completrly agree, and was going to comment this myself haha
I agree, season 9 was so much fun!
Season 8 also had the disadvantage of relying heavily on the completely chemistry-less relationship of Clara and Danny Pink. Conceptually it could've worked, but did anyone genuinely buy for a second that those two were deeply in love?
P.S. It wasn't that the writers had no idea who they wanted the Doctor to be *The new Doctor* had no idea who he was yet. Twelve struggled with that question for the whole of season 8 and it wasn't until the season finale that he finally came to terms with his new persona and realised _"I'm not a good man! I'm not a bad man! I'm not a hero! I'm not a President! And no, I'm not an officer! You know who I am? I am an idiot with a box and a screwdriver, passing through, helping out. And I don't need an army, I never have."_
heaven sent and the doctor falls would definitely be in my top 5
Swords And Stories Can agree
Absolutely
Heaven sent is the best doctor who episode of all time idec
the doctor falls could have been the end of the franchise and id have been fine with it
5:The Pilot
4: Oxygen
3:Mummy on The Orient Express
2:World enough and time
1: Heaven sent
It's good to hear someone so optimistic about moffats era of the show. He is most certainly my favourite showrunner as well and my god the capaldi era is wonderful.
Great video as always my man
I sort of have to object to the idea that Peter "Malcolm Tucker" Capaldi isn't well suited to throwing a "rager" :)
jermermern yup
Capaldi is well suited to throwing a rager. Twelve isn't really. He gets grumpy and he gets snappy but the full on bombastic raging speech wasn't really his style...
Capaldi's doctor did have a temper tantrum, when he realized that Missy lied to him about where Gallifrey is located. You don't have to say anything while you're throwing a temper tantrum...
Let’s not forget his Zygon speech
@@irrevenant3 And THAT'S what makes Hell Bent interesting- his usual modus operandi breaks down in the face of his need to bring Clara back
My favourite Capaldi Episodes:
5: Paddington 2
4: Mummy On The Orient Express
3: Heaven Sent
2: The Thick Of It
1: *_FUCKITY BYE!!_*
I've found someone who loves Twice Upon A Time!
So with you on this! Incredible run for an incredible Doctor. Asked some deep questions about who the Doctor is. His speech on kindness basically summed up why people in public service do what they do....teachers, nurses, firemen...very grateful to Moffat for putting those notions back into the public blood stream.
I thought you were going to be so anti-Clara and it's refreshing to hear someone actually get her. She didn't love the doctor, she didn't want to get in his pants, she wanted to BE him. And that's awesome. No more making the Doctor into some kind of messiah guy, she and him were bad for each other and that was so refreshing to watch after years of the friends just falling in love with him. Still, I like Hell Bent and I think allowing Clara to finally have her goal was a good idea, but it shouldn't have been on Gallifrey.
Clara should have left in season 8 it felt more natural if she was bad for the doctor
which Doctor Clara didn't love? Certainly not Matt Smith, he was loved by her, instead she didn't love Peter Capaldi
@@mariar.3011I would say she loved him in a different way
It’s obvious 11 and Clara were attracted to each other and maybe even had something going on romantically, but she loves 12 like a best friend
12 & Clara have almost the most romantic Doctor/Companion relationship in the show. It's not even implicit from a certain point forward.
Capaldi is by far & away the greatest Doctor by a country mile. Thank you for speaking out against the cringe inducing sheep like mentality hate against him!!! He’s a perfect blend of Pertwee & Baker. He’s the essence of how the character was originally written. Your channel is incredible!! A very happy new subscriber here!!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
idk about the best, but hes for sure the best of nü who by a country mile. capaldi i dont believe got a fair shake in the part, he could have burned it down with good stories
Andy Kapsar very true squire!!With great writing he would absolutely nail it!!!I loved his sporadic nature! Do you think Jodie is fairing well?⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@@VERMISIMILITUDE ive not watched any of 13 yet, we dont have cable and i really dont want to pay for each episode, im not that compelled. ill wait for it to all be together on amazon before i give a fair shake to her.
Andy Kapsar good thinking squire.... I’ll say this... go in with a Davidson mixed with Tennant approach.... I think you’ll understand what I mean when you see it!
I suspect a lot of the people who don't like Twelve dropped out part way through season 8 while the show was (by design) still nailing the character down. That season is about exploring this new incarnation of the Doctor and both he and his companion trying to work out who he is now. And he's pretty unlikeable at times during this period. I can see a number of fans being turned off and quitting the show when he callously abandoned a companion in "Kill the Moon", for example.
"You'll start to miss Moffat" considering how Moffat apologist videos there are now you couldn't be more right
Ah Twelve. My favorite Doctor of them all, and that's no small feat, because I each and every one of them to death. Personally I love all three of his series and they're among my favorites. I love his character arc, from harsh, confused and not caring enough, to goofy, self aware and caring too much, then finally to a happy medium. My five favorite stories!
5 - Under The Lake and Before The Flood
4 - The Magician's Apprentice and The Witches Familiar
3 - Mummy On The Orient Express
2 - World Enough And Time and The Doctor Falls
1 - Heaven Sent
Also, by the way, he's SEXY AS F#CK. And I'm a straight man.
We channel the same energy.
@@SamyulDavis Indeed!
absolutely, that's how i'd rate my favorites too, except maybe with flatline instead of lake/flood, but it's been a long while since i rewatched series 9 and 10, so i dunno.
For me the best 5, in no particular order are
5. World enough and time/The doctor falls
4. Mummy on the orient express
3. Under the lake/before the flood
2. Pyramid at the end of the world
1. Heaven sent
Heaven sent is fucking great. I'm surprised it wasnt on this list
Almost exactly the same except with Flatline instead of Pyramid!
+clockwork_harlequin the boneless are easily one of the most creative monsters in doctor who, along with the foretold, i just like a really powerful villain instead of one like Krasko from series 11 of where he gets shrekt by 13 almost effortlessly
Same except I would replace two with return of doctor mysterio and robots of Sherwood.......... Don't judge me
I’d but Listen in there
I honestly cant thank you enough for standing up for this era of the show when so much of the fandom hate it, im not the only one who loves it and thinks 12s era is the best the show has ever been woo
I find it interesting how you’re so fond of Moffat’s stuff when some hate it, but whether that’s a popular opinion or not it’s great that you’re so honest about it. That’s something I have a lot of respect for.
Moffats a mixed bag in my opinion there's very few mediocre eps there good or bad
Have you read the script for Oxygen, Sam? My God, that man can write. I'll die happy if I too can write *"foreshadowing ahoy!"* in an official BBC screenplay.
I loved Peter as the Doctor, I loved the season arcs, and even in the weakest stories, he gave a storming performance/speech. He elevated the material. That being said, I also loved Eccleston and Tennant for their acting chops too.
I almost teared up when you said "the subscribe to official Doctor Who" thingy..
Also in defense of "Smile"- the doctor couldn't know if reset button would fix the problem and the killing spree will not resurface again in the future. He saw the effect of one robot death on another, they showed their anger and confusion just like any other species when "one of them" died. Only then he was sure he could just erase all the memory of "keep humans happy" regime and let them be like a new species, in other words "a reset button". I know this is my excuse and the episode could've explained it better.
I grew up watching 11 as a kid and saw him as my favourite doctor, but then papa Capaldi came along and swept me off my feet. It was so sad to see him go and I really wish him and Moffat had stayed just a little longer. For me it's:
1: Under the lake/Before the flood
2: World enough and time/The Doctor falls
3: Face the raven
4: Heaven sent
5: The husbands of River Song
“I think you’ll start missing Steven Moffat and his influence”
Man that couldn’t age better, I miss Capaldi so much
Even more so since the rtd return turned about to be pretty awful
Honestly i have to thank you for all this content...
I spend hours watching your videos on youtube in quarantine
I was soo pleased with this list for most of the video, amazed with how much i related to your decisions, and then you put sleep no more at the bottom. Grrr
I have watched this video far too many times. But God, I miss Capaldi. Just watched Twice Upon A Time for the fourth or so time, and I cried even more than I had the previous three times. The moment Clara's voice and theme are heard, boom. Blubbering. I miss Capaldi. I miss Clara. I miss Nardole. And even Bill. This was for sure my favorite run of the show, and I'll be rewatching it for years to come.
Hearing you talk about the before the flood storyline made me realize it's one of my favorite DW episodes ever. It's very underrated, and Capaldi just shines the entire time.
It's not an obvious stand-out, but it is so tightly written. Ace story.
How is it that two years after you say that people would miss Moffat, that you were so right.
Thank you thank you thank you for defending SM and Peters era!! I really hope Peter does Big Finish!! I agree 100% with you that people going to end up really missing Steven and Peter ! 12/Peter Capaldi is magnificent!! I adore Deep Time!! 12 forever!!
I thought Capaldi was amazing, he was just given a lotta crap to try and use. Moffat didn't really know what he was going for, it seemed like he was trying to copy Russell T Davies a lot imo. I mean CLEARLY Ashildir is an attempt to copy Jack Harkness, and even the episode she appears in is a rip off of one of Tennant's episodes.
Given his love and passion for the show, I'd say it's just a matter of time before Capaldi does Big Finish
I think season 10 is extremely underrated. The only bad episodes I can think of are Lie of the Land and MAYBE Smile. That's it! By far Capaldi's best season and maybe Moffat's. Though season 5 is really good too. Also Bill is SO much better than Clara, even though she's good in season 8. Bill is the most underrated companion I think ever.
I love Bill's personality, but as the series progressed she began to lose some of it which is a shame. Also The Pilot is very underrated especially the ending, it gets me so exiting and the lecture speeches show parallels to bills life which establishes her character very well. Also I don't think the lesbian thing is pushed to far at all she mentions women less than other companions.
What I loved about Bill was that after classic who we finally got that purely inquisitive companion again and the Doctor was in a teacher role (I wish that had been expanded on). Nardole was just an amazing foil to that and showed us the other side of 12 in series 10. Missy being part of the TARDIS crew (for like 10 seconds) was just a straight up wet dream for me. I wanted the show to continue in that direction from series 10 (and at least 1 more series of bill, nardole, and missy with 12). I definitely preferred them to 2.5 series of Clara being the ONLY companion. 12’s character hit its peak for me at the end of hell bent when he got in the TARDIS, got his sonic, and moved on from clara (not the best episode, but the beginning of the Doctor at his peak). The following series 9 specials and series 10 was just my favorite who era.
@@JollyOliW Honestly the Pilot shocked me with how fresh it was. Like I honestly came out of that episode feeling more like I was entering a new era of who than the series 11 opener. And nothing “really” happened (as far as alien invasions go). I think it’s a testament that you can write a compelling who story without shoving in a knock off predator.
I think Smile is one of the best NuWho episodes. Lie of the Land is really cool conceptually but I don't think they pulled it off right at all, but the first 2 episodes to that 3 parter are beautifully written in my opinion. Series 10 is the best NuWho series. *in my opinion.*
Clara stayed for too long in it for ages and Bill managed to be better than her in one season
12 fits into Clown Hobo, Grumpy Space Grandpa, Time Travelling Romantic and Dandy Scientist in one way or another. He's not just a one trick pony
Capaldi is my favourite of the modern era. Great actor. Completely embodies the character. Brilliant.
Capaldi is my favourite Doctor of the modern era, sure some of the stories had issues but Capaldi somehow manages to make even the weakest episodes of his era watchable. And when Capaldi's era was at its best it gave me some of my absolute favourite moments of the show. The quality of the episodes from his era may have been a mixed bag (though I really liked most of Series 9, despite Hell Bent), but Capaldi himself was consistently brilliant and I'd have loved to have seen him stay for another season or two.
I thought I knew all the spoilers from twice upon a time going in, but him getting Clara's face back made me so happy, and I couldnt help but shed a tear at the reveal of the soldier being the brigadier's father. Never thought it would be that amazing
It was such an emotional kick in the balls to go from the brilliance of twice upon a time to chibnal and jodies doctor
Peter was one of the best actors ever in Dr who. There was so many bad episode but so many good episodes. He feels like an actual dr.
Peter Capaldi was escellent as the Doctor. I think that when 'youngsters' go back in times to come to revisit his stories, having gained their own sense of time passing and experiences that come with it, they'll see he really developed the character of our so-loved champion. Flatline was a personal favourite, alond with his final three in which the Master/Missy also expresses how life can change you and for the better. Jon Pertwee was my Doctor, but Matt Smith and Capaldi under Moffat gave us a real depth that a kids show often can only dream about.
I love your positivity as I found the last series of capaldi to be unwatchable. You make me want to look back and see if I was wrong now
No heaven scent? That's one of the most cleverly done and genuis episodes of new who I can remember
Dude, I've watched this video multiple times at this point. God bless you Sam, well done.
Capaldi was the Doctor who got me through High School. I miss him very much. But seeing Jodie in action, I know she's perfect for the role.
And as for Twice Upon a Time, I think Capaldi was good, but it was a bit of a severe missed opportunity.
Thank you! I love Capaldi and I miss him too
Finally, you updated it. I like the first iteration, but the second fits perfectly. I agree with Sleep no More, Hell Bent and The Lie of the Land aka The Monks Cop Out ( seriously wrecked the end of the Trilogy ), and In the Forest of the Night ( blows raspberries ) as my least favorites. I'm sure Jodie Whittaker will do fine as the 13th Doctor later this year, but believe me, Capaldi will be a tough act to follow, he is that dang excellent, and I love it. Great video update, you made my evening, thank you!!!
Words can’t express how much I love 12, He is MY doctor
Been Rewatching Capaldi recently - the guy was absolutely stellar. Ive maintained the run from Eccleston to Capaldi (9,10,11 and 12) is possibly the strongest back to back run of actors the show ever had and Capaldi still shines. He was alien, ancient, wise, eccentric, intelligent and commanding. He was something super special to the show and Series 9 and 10 are among my favourites of all time. I still miss 12 to this dau
Thank you for agreeing that Moff and capaldi are behind the best era
Switch Kill the Moon to the hated and Hell Bent to the loved, and it would be nearer my top and bottom 5 :-)
Planet of the Deaf y
I think Capaldi was possibly the best actor to portray the character. As much as my favourite is Eleven, I think Capaldi was the best at his job... acting. Now, there’s never been a bad performance put to the Doctor, even Colin Baker has some stand-out moments where the script actually allowed him to act.
I found your view of 12's tenure interesting, as I felt each of his series was better than the last!
They're all my favourite era. Series 10 is so fresh and clean, but I just struggle to pick episodes to revisit.
Capaldi is my favorite doctor also! He is everything I expect of the doctor. I'm so glad they got away from the romance stuff. Everytime I rewatch any episode of the 12th doctor, I know why he's my favorite. It's nice to see I'm not alone!
Listen and Heaven Sent have got to be my favourite episodes of all time.
I feel like I agree with u about every single thing in doctor who. U actually give constructive criticism instead of going “diversity is killing doctor who” whenever a new character is added. Also can’t remember sleep no more either. I like series 10 more than u though and like series 9 less.
Capaldi was how I was introduced to Doctor Who and he is my favorite Doctor!
Top 5 Episodes in no particular order:
1. Heaven Sent
2. Listen
3. Twice Upon A Christmas
4. The Zygon Inversion (that speech)
5. The Doctor Falls
i have lots of problems with moffat's writing during the capaldi era, but what you say at the start of this episode is so true and i think something to take note of for all future incarnations of the doctor.
even when the writing's at its worst, capaldi STILL shines as this terrific, entertaining, and enigmatic figure. he almost single-handedly carried me through his time on the show with his engaging and impactful performance & personality; he needs to be utterly commended for being magnificent enough to transcend everything else that was wrong with the show at the time.
In my opinion, the seasons of Peter Capaldi’s Doctor got better each time, with 8 being not very good and 10 being really great and 9 somewhere in the middle. I think this is probably because I really enjoyed the storylines in 10, and I didn’t care so much about the (admittedly lacking) character development.
I guess that’s just how the series connected with me personally
The show died in Twice Upon A Time, what called itself Doctor Who was a poorly written show about a terribly awkward so-called incarnation of the Doctor who would not even comfort a companion about their cancer-based worries.
Interesting that Capaldi is my favourite Doctor to, but I feel like we're total opposites. For me, season 8 is passable, 9 is pretty good and 10 is top tier. Our fave/worst episode list could almost be swapped. XD
I have to disagree with the Series 7 and "Hell Bent" hate. I get the disappointment of Gallifrey not being as big a deal in that episode as it could've been, but it gave Clara an infinitely superior ending.
I'm glad we can agree she's the best companion and that Capaldi's two series with her are better than the "meh" Series 10, though :)
As much as we didn't want Clara to die, I don't think her ending after hell bent was superior, it kinda just showed Moffat has a problem killing characters, ironically, since what i've seen the fans hate him for is being to eager to kill characters. but between reviving Clara 2 episodes after a dramatic and final feeling death, and the thing they pulled with Bill in The Doctor Falls, he really can't give a companion a solid ending. That being said, I still do really enjoy his run. Not quite as much as RTD, but pretty close.
@@gryotharian Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, Moffat had his faults and I totally get why a lot of people prefer FTR, I just never felt that that the "reckless" thing ever really suited Clara, so having that be such a big part of her demise, coupled with what I feel are some pretty serious plot holes, irked me to say the least.
The other factor for me is that HB seems to be the real ending he had planned all along, so it seems like a stupid decision to me to kill her off in a fake ending only to bring her back right at the end for the real one. They shouldn't have bothered with FTR and just done the HB version.
I totally get where you're coming from, though. Also it's nice to see someone else who actually likes Davies AND Moffat, rather than picking one and throwing rocks at anyone who likes the other :)
I honestly love 12, he's my favourite doctor and it's so annoying that everyone is constantly having a go at me over it lmfao.
More power to you. People who genuinely take issue with other people's favourites as if there is a 'right answer' have a child's approach to fiction
SamyulDavis couldnt be more true, its just childish. Capaldi was such a good doctor and you explained why hes so good at the start!! Love your videos mate!!
How you feel about 12 is how I feel about 10. End of Time and even just the RTD era as a whole is something else to me. It's interesting to hear another, albeit different take on Who. I like hearing other points even if I don't neccissarily agree with them. It also may be a slightly colored opinion, as I do have a friend who I chat with about Who quite regularly with who hates everything Moffat wrote since 2011, but hey. What do I know? Though I will say when I write stories, I do write them more like RTD would even though they are certainly in my own style.
I have to disagree about Bill not blossoming into a good developed character. I think we got basically as good a feel for Bill as a character as we did any of the companions in their first season. She was familiar with scifi and tended to refer to their adventures through that lens. She was a companion with a very practical perspective. She asked things like why are the TARDIS seats so far away from the console. And rather than the usual "It's bigger on the inside!" reaction she had the much more natural initial response of assuming the doors led to a knock-through. She was also the first person to say that the TARDIS looks like a really posh kitchen - which it really kinda does. xD
The Doctor was attracted to Bill because when she didn't know something she smiled rather than frowned. She adored the Doctor but was kind of embarrassed by him socially. She tended to just blurt things out rather than thinking it through. Even when they were travelling through time and space together, she continued to view the Doctor as her university professor and refer to him in that context. And she was a young gay woman who was perfectly comfortable with that - though that was really a much smaller part of her character than many people focused on.
I've seen people complain about Bill's final words to the Doctor: _"You know how I'm usually all about women and, and kind of people my own age?", "Yeah?", "Glad you knew that"._ I thought they were perfect and very in character. The subtext to that comment was "You are neither of those things and you are the most amazing person I have ever met".
The Doctor took a young, working class university student who had been mostly about university and socialising with other young people and opened up the entire universe to her. He was responsible for making her more than what she had "usually been all about". Bill was never going to be able to say all that eloquently and burying it in a jocular remark instead was very her style.
Moffat can be very bombastic in his writing, and often that works brilliantly - but this was a wonderfully understated and natural bit of dialogue and it's a shame that some people just see it as "Bill constantly shoving it down our throats that she's gay".
I’m with you. 12 NEEDS to come back at some point.
For Best:
5. Flatline (Awesome monster design, really well done stand alone episode)
4.Dark Water/Death in Heaven (I know it definitely had it's issues, but I still loved it)
3. Magician's Apprentice/Witch's Familiar (I just really like Missy ok? And seeing the classic daleks)
2. Heaven Sent (Come on. Speaks for itself.)
1. World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls (My favorite DW story to date, probably some of my favorite episodes of TV in general, I had two problems, the first was the shit they pulled with Bill at the end, there was no reason for that other than Moffat not wanting to properly kill off companions, and the second was THEY SPOILED THE WHOLE EPISODE WITH THE SEASON TRAILER)
For Worst:
5. Husbands of River song (Had it's good moments, and was a good way to close up river's arc, but the main plot of the episode with the cyborg dude was bland and pointless as all hell)
4. Into the forest of night. (silly and forgettable, and didn't make any sense)
3. The Woman Who Lived (I really hated ashildr already, adding space furries did not help)
2. The Eaters of light (started off promising, With scotland and romans and alternate universes, but left off just confusing and unexplained)
1. Sleep no More (absolute dumpster fire. who let this get past BBC.)
As much as I disliked many of the stories in Capaldi's era, no Doctor has ever inspired me or made me feel genuinely warm inside than Peter Capaldi's Doctor. Even if 12 had my least favorite episodes, 12 is my favorite Doctor.
I really like Capaldi, his character is great! He gets so overlooked but he’s actually a fantastic Doctor :D
I love Peter and as much as I like the ratings Jodie got (and well deserved), it makes me sad more people didn't watch. There were some epic moments, including what I consider the best episode ever.
Agreed. I could've had 6 more seasons of Capaldi
In my reality, there was another season in between 9 and 10. After Heaven Sent and Hell Bent. A whole season is dedicated to the return of Gallifrey. A Time Travelling Bonnie & Clyde Season where River Song was Capaldi companion for a few early episodes with Nardole and where The Time Lords have issued a wanted bounty on The Doctor who is accused of being the infamous Valeyard after his actions of saving Clara. A season where Missy is hunting the two time travelling lovebirds and ends with an alternate death of River Song in the Tardis and where The Doctor was sent to the courts of the Time Lords as how the 6th Doctor have done. It dedicates the second half of the season on the Time War and The Day of The Doctor, with special cameos from previous Doctors and companions to testify The Doctor's innocence and prove that his reincarnation isnt The Valeyard with The Face of Boa being the ultimate callback. It ends with revealing that the real Valeyard was a clone of him that Missy has used and alter to unleashed chaos in the universe and dedicates a whole episode where Capaldi (Doctor) fights Capaldi (Valeyard). At the end of the season, Missy was sentenced to death as seen in season 10 and locked away for the now cleared of charges and celebrated hero, Capaldi who also helped restored River Song's death as well with a little help of an impossible girl. The Doctor then took up the position of professor at Bill's university and the rest of it was pretty much the same with more focus on Bill, Nardole and The Doc trying to stop The Valeyard with some help from a rehabilitated Missy that also ends with the death of Bill. Missy of course double cross them with the help of the Master and helps The Valeyard in his evil plans. Ends with an epic self sacrifice from The Doctor to end the Valeyard. Final christmas and regeneration episode is pretty much the same.
someone tell big finish to take notes
I felt like Series 10 was the most consistently good of Capaldi's run. His era is my favourite as well but Series 10 is just on another level and I feel like his relationship with Bill is superior to the one he had with Clara. I also love Nardole and the fact that Missy is a rather big part of the season. I do feel like Series 8 is very underrated though, with there being a few bummers but overall it's a really good season to me. And Series 9, except for the Me two parter, Sleep no More and Hell Bent, is great
Talking about giant spiders, that was literally the episode that aired yesterday. It was good but not great, the ending was a bit rushed, but I loved the science behind the mothers death because that's not even made up it's real.
Heaven Sent.
Also easy to forget that Gallifrey's return hype was always going to be subverted, better it's not the focus of the episode. Now, the focus of the season... Yes.
Clara Oswald.
That's why people don't like series 8 and 9.
Series 10? Haven't the foggiest.
@@MatthewsStopMotions extremis is probably my second favourite after the 2 parts of the finale for season 10. Pyramid is top 5 too. Lie of the land is a let down but parts 1 and 2 are stellar.
Heaven sent is my favourite episode he did.
12 is my favourite doctor too and yet I have essentially the opposite opinion to you on the overall quality of each of his seasons, I find that interesting
Great to hear! It makes sense there's so much variety when his era kept mixing it up so often. I'm fully aware my series 8 Clara opinions are niche and weird. This comment was such a breath of fresh air after the hate-wave of political edgelords on the new one haha
I remember not liking the 12th originally until after deep breath he was my absolute FAVORITE!
Beside sleep no more and the book. I loved these stories. Especially hell bent
Sometimes I wish Doctor who was a late night show so we could see Capaldi say fuckity bye to a Dalek
I really started to love Capaldi in season 10... I was actually sad to see him go in the end..... :(
Heaven sent and the zygon invasion are my favorite of my favorite doctor. 12 will always be the best ever!!!!
Ya know what, I even like the episodes you put as the worst. This era was exactly what I want from Doctor Who and I loved every minute.
I can never move on either! Give me 12 back, too!
World enough and time/ the doctor falls is my favourite Dr who episode ever!!!!!! (Human nature/the family of blood is a close second) I can't stress how much I love this episode!!!!!
There's that good stereo. Nice vid.
series 10 to me feels like extra time, an epilogue rather than a full series. I feel like we should have got a season of him alone, kinda like tenants specials, I dunno I kinda felt like him and clara had a great chemistry and friendship, for him to suddenly get a new companion and throw her into danger again felt weird for his doctor
I'm one of those who enjoyed Hell Bent and didn't have a problem with Clara's "resolution." That said, I can certainly see every single complaint with the episode. Gallifrey being a throw away 1 episode location is such a waste of story potential. I never got into the story of Kill the Moon, but what it did do was provide a backdrop for character growth and that's the part I enjoyed. I thought Clara's falling out with the Doctor was brilliant and it was part of 12 learning how not to be a jackass.
Worst 5:
5. Doorway to Hell
4. Sleep No More
3. Pyramid at the End of the World
2. In the Forest of the Night
1. Twice Upon a Time (if I could put this worst twice I would)
Best 5:
5. Eaters of Light
4. Dark Water/Death in Heaven
3. Heaven Sent
2. Magician's Apprentice/Witch's Familiar
1. World Enough/Doctor Falls
I thought eaters of light was good, but the most forgettable episode of capaldis tenure.
My personal top 5 is:
5) Deep Breath
4) Heaven Sent
3) Listen
2) Pyramid at the End of the World
1) World Enough and Time / The Doctor Falls
Honourable Mentions:
Into the Dalek, Time Heist, Mummy on the Orient Express, Face the Raven, Thin Ice, Oxygen, Extremis, Twice Upon a Time.
I think Lie of the Land and The Doctor Falls is proof that Pearl Mackie was wasted by Moffat in Season 10.
But i liked him :C
He was so sturdy and firm and i really liked how his accent came out when he was angri lol
Agree capaldi is going to be missed
Weird, because season 8 is my personal least favorite season. I hated it so much.
Okay excuse me, you think that Kill The Moon is good but Lie of The Land is bad?
Ahaha I know right? Reeeally outta order XD
Count Orlok nah it isn’t bad if u watch it. I do think smith is a better doctor which is why I felt a little weird about season 8 and at first rlly didn’t like it properly, but upon rewatching it without any bias it has some very good episodes and Clara is a little more interesting. Only problem I had was that the doctor was a little harsh telling Danny Pink to Shut up and telling that annoying little girl she isn’t special. I just always felt like I wanted to get back to the relationships and away from the adventures in certain episodes like the second episode ever.
Count Orlok Both Kill the Moon AND The Lie of the Land are absolute garbage
@@cantorlok2815 "Lie of the Land" is terrible. It completely squandered the amazing buildup of "Extremis" and "The pyramid at the end of the world" that established the Monks as this clever, calculating enemy who was several steps ahead of everyone and a major threat to be feared. "Lie of the Land" spent half the episode waffling around (though Missy's revelation that the only known way to defeat the Monks was to murder Bill *was* a nice twist) then defeated the Monks with a convenient deus ex machina. It was always going to be challenging living up to that buildup, but Lie of the Land didn't even try. It approaches "The Power of Three" levels of pulling unconvincing last-minute solutions out of its butt.
P.S. Kill the Moon is also bad, and actually for similar reasons - it made out like there was a really difficult choice to made with no easy solutions then went "just kidding!" at the end and undermined it all. -_-
Great pics and yet, its a complete travesty that Listen and Heaven Sent weren't here
Hey, honestly I agree with you. I'm still pissed Husbands of River Song and Empress of Mars couldn't fit on either. I'm a slave to my own format.
Oh god...i already miss capaldi and moffat
I’’d say the worst are
5.hell bent
4.the woman who lived
3.sleep no more
2.The lie of the land
1.Forrest of the night
Best are (and I’m missing loads cuz I love his doctor)
5.dark water/death in heaven
4.under the lake/before the flood
3.World enough and time/the doctor falls/twice upon a time
2.listen
1.Heaven sent
Capaldi was great. He was probably the best actor to ever take on the role. That said... his acting elevated weak material. By the time Capaldi came around Moffat felt like he had mostly checked out on the show and wanted to focus on making Sherlock properly bad, and Capaldi was left with substandard material. Even so, he made the words he was handed stand out, which hits me right in the heart since if he had been handed the material RTD could write... imagine the heights he'd have reached.
12 is amazing. Yes, he did have some shit episodes, but he was still great. I would put the list as:
Best:
5. Last christmas
4. Mummy on the orient express
3. Oxygen
2. Hell bent
1. Flatline
Worst:
5. Kill the moon
4. In the forest of the night
3. The woman who lived
2. Hell bent
1. The girl who died
This is my opinion. I havent listened to any audios, and ive only ever read one doctor who novel (and it was a class novel) so there are all tv episodes in the list.
"Even if you're not his biggest-fan, I'll think you'll start missing Moffat's style and his influence very very soon."
Enjoyed these vids. Subscribed. Low key though I'm here to slowly make you realise you're wrong, Capaldi was good and could have been great without the staggering anchors of Clara and moffat and the Tennant era was the best :D
imagine not including Mummy on the Orient Express or Heaven Sent
Or flatline
this is so relevant now. you called everything totally, capaldi is loved now lol
I agree with a lot of this! I think heaven sent could have been done waaay better. I feel as though when 12 met Ashielda(?) At the end of the universe, he wouldn't have just walked away and accepted that he fucked up. Honestly I feel as though he probably would have ended her right there...
I feel as though if he did this it would have made everything that happened afterwards (being him erasing his memory, finally ending it with river, maintaining the master...ect) all the more significant.
From there they could have used series 10, AND THE WAY THE FINALLY PLAYS OUT AS CURRENT, to finally "heal" the damage he did to himself.
I think it's Ashildir, I get confused myself too XD I hated her though because she felt extremely forced. I think it was just a lotta wasted potential, and Clara was too forced into there as well.
Capaldi is my favorite New Who Doctor by a mile. And Capaldi and Bill is my favorite modern Tardis team.