First impressions of Gigabyte's B550 motherboard lineup
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1:13 B550 Aorus Master
10:04 B550 Aorus Vision D
12:48 B550 Aorus Pro
19:41 B550 Aorus Elite
27:58 B550I Aorus Pro AX
31:44 B550M Aorus Pro
35:55 B550M Aorus Elite
41:04 B550 Gaming X
43:05 B550M DS3H
47:40 Final Ramblings
Doing god's work
Pitek agreed
Close, not quite...There was all of a minute for the Gaming X.
What's with the Elite having ONLY FRONT FACING SATA PORTS???????
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The ramble is strong in this one.
Hes wrong in many aspects 1.Ryzen have 20 cpu lanes so you can have 4x nvme pcie4 and 16x gpu 2.2080ti would be less affected by chopping pcie bandwidth than gpu with less memory 3. More flexible pcie potrs are actually advantage but it seems not for bz
@@adamkowalczyk9791 I mean you both are wrong. Ryzen has 24 lanes so when you use the second m.2 slot that's when the GPU goes to x8.
26:00 reopen a tab in chrome by doing ctrl+shift+T
Was coming to post the same thing :)
Also you can right-clic outside any tab and it is.
Also open link in new tab with middle mouse.
WolfMan also in firefox and it’s derivatives. Safari? Cmd+Shift+T iirc
Not sure about edge/IE but probably too
Open in new tab is also CTRL+Click on Link
We gathered here today to figure out why a 270 dollar Aorus Master is missing a bios switch.
According to overclock.net probably subject to change.
Gigabyte:
B550 AORUS MASTER 16-phases[14+2] | Infineon TDA21472 70A, PWM: Infineon XDPE132G5C(16-phase), PCB: 2oz 6-Layer
B550 AORUS PRO (and AC) 14-phase[12+2]* | Vishay Dr.MOS SiC651C/SiC651ACD 50A, PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 6-Layer, 5K caps *doubler(ISL6617A)
B550 VISION D 14-phase[12+2]* | Vishay Dr.MOS SiC651C/SiC651ACD 50A, PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 6-Layer *doubler(ISL6617A).
Aluminium block, instead of heatsink.
B550 AORUS ELITE 14-phase[12+2]* | Vishay Dr.MOS SiC651C/SiC651ACD 50A, PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 4-Layer *doubler(ISL6617A)
Same vrms as above except caps and aluminium heatsink instead of finned heatsink stack. I like this or the pro.
B550 GAMING X 13-phase[10+3]* | OnSemi 4C10N/4C06N[1x1], PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 4-Layer *doubler(ISL6617A)
Lots of phases but using weak onsemi discrete mosfets.
B550I AORUS PRO AX ITX 8-phase[6+2] | Intersil Dr.MOS 99390 90A, PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 8-Layer
B550M AORUS PRO 13-phase[10+3]* | OnSemi 4C10N/4C06N[1x1], PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 4-Layer *doubler(ISL6617A)
And the rest you can ignore
B550M AORUS ELITE
(Unless there are mosfets on the back, there could be something we dont know, I cant imagine elite being actually bad, we shall see)
B550M GAMING
B550M DS3H (and AC)
B550M H
B550M S2H
All use 8-phase[5+3] | OnSemi 4C10N/4C06N[1x2+1x1], PWM: Intersil ISL229004(8-phase), PCB: 2oz 4-Layer
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SygLRanxx6LiYVmDoIIX866r2rJEmUTG-16sjX7EBz0/edit#gid=1652629489
@Immortal the Mortar is easily the best option on there.
The b550 vision D vrm side heatsink is indeed flat but thick and large well there is no fins unlike the top vrm heatsink.
BUT there is a copper heatpipe that connect this two heatsink.
I remove mine months ago I noticed a copper pipe connecting both vrm heatsink which is good since the left heatsink has 0 fins.
ALSO did a OC on my ryzen 3700x
Vrm max temp is 45 degrees mostly in 41 to 42 degree but 45 degree at 12 noon and it's a tropical country but since it's December ambient temp is 29-31
Buildzoid rambling about not having the bios switch is like Gordan ramsey rambling about lamb sauce
Where's the fucking *BIOS switch* ?
Undo close tab: Crtl + Shift + T :)
And it works for all browsers too, AFAIK.
@Buildzoid: When you finish reviews of all motherboard vendors, could you make a review like top 10 B550 mobos in your opinion or what mobo would you recommend for each price category? Thanks.
And b550 vs x570 for same budgets. For similar design features, I will go for x570
Waiting for MSI B550s lineup review 👏👏👏
Undo closed tab is Ctrl+Shift+T. Also use middle mouse button for opening links in new tab. The same on reload btn duplicates tab
7:00 Ryzen CPU has a total of 24 lanes.
-16 for GPU
-4 for NVME
-4 for the chipset.
With one NVME, you still got a full x16 lanes.
I totally agree with u
Question because a lot of this stuff is lost on me. With a vision d, If I have 1 x nvme for system drive at pcie4, 1 x nvme at Pcie 3, 1 x sata ssd, will I lose Pcie 4 on the x16 slot?
Would love a in depth of the Vision-D. I know you are more into overclocking features, I read this somewhere, but all this (Not) Thunderbolt stuff is interesting. I would like to understand. Also noticed the TB connectors on some boards, which were TRX only, if I'm right.
Modellbahn the vision D has on board thunderbolt 3. That’s why I want it. It will cost 259
@@NovaDoll I paid 285 for it, the life when you life on a high price Island QQ
Regarding the master:
I believe AMD 3000 series CPUs give 24 PCIe 4.0 lanes with x16 to the GPU and x4 to the chipset (which is actually PCIe 3.0?).
The remaining 4 lanes go to to a single nvme m.2 slot. My guess is if you use any of the other 2 m.2 slots it downgrades the GPU to x8 and splits the remaining x8 between the two m.2 slots for a 2 by x4 config. So I think you get 1 m.2 for free without a bandwidth penalty, but if you use slots 2 and 3 you lose GPU bandwidth.
What I don't understand. If you're paying $280,- for a B550 master why don't you het a good x570 board around the same price like a MSI Unify and never have to bother with such compromises.
Ah shit. I Want multiple M.2s it's so much cleaner then 2.5 inch SSDs, ah but I guess I can use one of those PCI expansion cards on which you can mount an M.2 and it'll use that X4 dedicated to chipset right? So i can have two SSDs without fucking my GPU?
ForeverDoubting theoretically if current gen GPUs supported pcie 4.0 then I wouldn’t be worried about the x8 downgrade since x8 pcie 4.0 is the same bandwidth as x16 pcie 3.0, and from what I understand, even the highest end GPUs right now don’t fully use up the bandwidth of x16 pcie 3.0. If you’re using a lower end GPU you may not use up the entire x8 bandwidth anyway? If you’re adventurous, I’d first try some games or benchmarks without the extra m.2 SSDs to get a baseline, then plug in the SSDs and try the same games/benchmarks to see if there’s any major performance losses. If you find you’re happy with the built in m.2 then no need to buy the extra card. If the performance you get by using the built in m.2 is unacceptable then get the add on card for pcie. I mean, there’s no better way to find out than to try it out yourself?
5:20 I can tell just how frustrated Buildzoid gets by how many times he backtracks and says "like..." lol
It was hilarious XD
As the owner of an X470 Gaming 7.. that BIOS switch is totally needed and I'm very disappointed it's not there.
Is it possible you can chanche bioses with an onscreen tool or maybe some keyboard inputs?
@@rymannphilippe Well if you are oc'ing cpu or memory and something goes wrong you won't have access to an onscreen tool and keyboard input won't work, so you'll have to wait for the motherboard to fail boot a few times and then switch to the other working bios. This is frustrating because of the wasted time. I think it is just easier to remove the CMOS battery but still frustrating... I don't know, like buildzoid says this is stupid.
@@MegaGasek thanks for this fantastic information
Fun fact, there are some M.2 SSDs that are designed to run in PCI-E 3.0 x2, and I had a Samsung PM961 SSD that I bought off eBay that was cracked, which broke internal traces and caused it to run in 3.0 x2 rather than PCIE x4.
Edit: also, undo closed tab on chrome is Ctrl+Shift+T, or up in the tab area right click and select the undo option.
Love these impression videos, thanks BZ!
I think my favourite Gigabyte B550 board is the Vision D. Dual Intel LAN, PS/2, 8 USB and 2 TB3, a post code, good memory OC speeds, and the first PCIe slot is dedicated x16 even if the M.2 slots are used.
Yeah but a lump of metal where there should be a vrm heatsink.
The usb c ports on the back are thunderbolt 3 ports.
Yes, Buildzoid is the best!
20:48 How did you confirmed they were 4 and 6 layer PCBs by looking at the top left corner?
At this point in time, the best Micro ATX options for a Ryzen 3950X build are looking to be ASRock's B550M Steel Legend (0I54.99$ USD) and Gigabyte's B550M Aorus Pro (0II9.99$); MSI's MAG Series B550M Mortar (0I59.99$) and Asus' TUF Gaming B550M Plus (also 0I59.99$) are a bit harder for me to justify due to a lack of VRM/MOSFET Cooling in certain areas and also for having an odd layout for PCI Express cards on the TUF Gaming (the top Graphics Card slot is one row lower than it must be), thus the Aorus Pro is looking to be the best option for Cost Factor while the Steel Legend is probably the best for Durability and Storage.
The Steel Legend gives up two USB: Type A ports, when compared to the Aorus Pro's nine, but makes up for this by having six SATA III ports for storage as opposed to four on the Aorus Pro; considering that one would be saving about 035$ on an Aorus Pro if they could find it at MSRP (or at all, for that matter; it's still not officially available on Newegg nor Amazon in the states), I would recommend Gigabyte's option if only because of the lower price and if somebody will actually make use of all the USB: Type A ports on the board and their case (Local Ten Player Saturn Bomberman on emulator, anybody?), plus it'll very likely be fine running a 3950X at Stock and in Eco Mode, simply make sure that you have a spacious case and good cooling if you go for an OC though.
B550 vids when???? They’ve been out for multiple days now BZ!!1!!1!!!!111!!! /s (just in case lol)
ASRock sent a 🧀 zoid to take out Buildzoid's Internet because of Z490 coverage.
OMG, why B550 vids? The Z490 boards have been out for weeks now! /s lol.
@@ebsmith1102 Is not buildzoid's fault if asrock does a shitty job at motherboards xD
@@joefowble nobody cares about z490
@@luigius8590 Lol
Buildzoid could you please tell Gigabyte ( or any other manufacturer ) to add a Clear Cmos button on their ITX boards , Clear Cmos should be mantatory on ITX !
Agreed and I will raise you fixed/built in rear IO shields
Msi B450i gaming plus itx has the jumper near rear io ports so if you dont put the io shield in place (better vrm thermals) you have easy access with a metal poker/screwdriver. Or you can hook up a power button cable (stolen from old case or you can buy then) or even solder a button on yourself.
Otherwise find the header and hook up the reset switch to it seeing as the reset switch is kinda redundant anyway.
Commenting from the future. They released a revision both for the Aorus Elite and Aorus Pro. They tweaked the power phases and rotated the lower sata ports on the Elite so they face the right. They also changed the max memory speed on the elite to 4400.
This is progress. ASUS is what I’m waiting for.
I'm disheartened by the lack of a Hero x550 variant.
@@RAW_Reality x570?
Google Chrome does have "reopen closed tab" it's CTRL+Shift+T
And again, you can middle mouse button click links to open them in a new tab instead of right click>mouse to option>left click, a lot easier on your wrists over time.
25:47 off topic, but at least for me I can right click on the top of chrome where there are no tabs and the menu displays a "reopen closed tab" option as well as ctrl+shift+t. It used to be on the tabs themselves before I think but google is stupid and likes changing things for the sake of making it different and worse
don't trust google to make good products, they are very consumer-unfriendly and just want your data (money) now. their new "designs" are just for the sake of bringing something new and are unusable, and their push for the shitty "material" bs is sickening. also, if you use an old version of their apps that actually works, they use planned/forced obselescence to force you to a new one, even though the old one works just fine. (oh, and then they block you from installing modified versions of the app)
The Aorous pro and Elite ATX lineup use a six-phase Intersil ISL229004 PWM that's doubled and connected to 12 Vishay SiC651C phases each capable of 50A.
exactly the video i was looking for
Thank you so much for covering B550!!! Your opinion means a lot to me. Also I've been waiting to upgrade my girlfriends PC until I get your review on em all xD
Cant wait for Buildzoid's A520 lineup!!!!!
At 18:12 you are hovering the mouse over "PWM doublers" lol.
I was very confused how he missed that while trying to work out whether the VRM uses doublers.
@@nathangamble125 yeah i was yelling at my monitor while he was hovering over it.. he did a similar thing in another video but he caught it after the second board he looked at but this time nope.
...or just click the HUGE "Power Architecture" label... I know these websites are crazy, but they offer a lot if you are willing to look for it.
Finally... I've been waiting for this longer than Cyberpunk :v
Cyberpunk 2077: I'm bout to delay this mans whole career
Hope you do MSi next
Little tip on gigabyte pages, those new versions are rev 1.1 and you can click the rev 1.0 link on the title to quickly compare the two. What I mostly noticed is that 1.1 is "Thunderbolt™ Add-in Card Connector" connector added rest exact same :) Well maybe other boards have some minor tweaks as well, like the top of the line.
Finally. I want the vision D. :( wish you’d spent more time on it.
I feel like it doesn't have the best VRMs in the world since they don't really reveal very much about them on its product page. I wanted the Vision D as well but it was this reason alone that I felt like it wasn't the best choice for me.
BUT O.M.G. IT LOOKS SO FUCKING HAWT!
Gigabyte loves 4c06 and 4c10. And the amount of burnt VRMs I've seen using those is a lot.
"is the elite going to be 110", yes it is 110 usd actually
Gigabyte probably has a monthly employee competition for who can doodle the least efficient heat sink.
The B550 Aorus Pro AC and B550 Aorus Pro are using a 12+2 phase power delivery, with twelve Vishay SiC651C 50 A power stages for the CPU, and two SiC651AD 50 A power stages for the SoC. It is using an Intersil ISL229004 in a 6+2 configuration, with six ISL6617A doublers for the CPU section. www.anandtech.com/show/15850/the-amd-b550-motherboard-overview-asus-gigabyte-msi-asrock-and-others/24
@actually hardcore overclocking one way to also click on a link into a new tab with one hand is to click on it with the scroll wheel button didn’t know if you knew this saw you talking about control click in a previous video and thought this might help love the vids keep it up.
All the m.2 drives of the aorus master can actually be very helpful to people like photographers that can be processing thousands of 30-100mb files or hundreds of gigs of video or audio captures per job. All the nvme would be very useful for in photo editing and light room usage just form person experience. The problem in my opinion is that it shouldn't be marketed as a gaming motherboard but more as a productivity mothoerboard. As such, if they dropped all the gamery features like rgb and awkward bios flashback and all that jazz, could have sold a very solid work station board for a lower price that could be perfect for amatuer video makers or photographers. All the usb slots is also a huge plus for productivity workloads where you could be hooking up a large amount of devices.
Even with it's flaws, it could be the basis for a bang-for-buck editing machine.
for Chrome, Ctrl+Shift+T reopens the last closed tab
the B550M Aorus Pro is $130 (which is less than what you estimated) and the B550M Aorus Elite is $110, the prices are on B&H and an Wccftech article
there's also a Google Spreadsheet on r/AMD that has all the MOSFET models for all B550 boards if you need it instead of just guessing
edit: ah i see you already saw it from a different comment
***** Dear Buildzoid To find PWM Controller please tap "Power Arhitecture" right to "Phases Design".
16:05 That would be me.
PS/2 for Starcraft Broodwar. (All things being equal, I will pay 50 bucks more if a motherboard has PS/2 for both Mouse and Keyboard).
@actuallyhardcoreoverclocking on the motherboard pages, if you click on "Power Architecture" it shows you the exact power delivery setup
"Seeing what we can see"
Yeah Thats Right
Regarding PCIe 2x: AFAIK physical 2x slots/connectors don't exist, but there are lots of cards which are electrically 2x with a 4x connector (some of them still claim to be 4x in their product spec, tisk tisk). There are also 4x/8x/16x slots which are electrically 2x, but those are a bit less common.
Have been waiting for this.
HDMI 2.1 huh, they dropped some hint here and there.
Also it's funny that Intel still stuck on 1.4, it's BS.
Yeah! I was wondering when this video was coming 😄
Although expensive, this leaves me still happy with my X570 Aorus Master.
Tim Wood I'm keen on this board too.
Check Guru3d's latest review on it.
25:47
Yeah it does :) press Ctrl+Shift+T
Can't wait for you to do the MSI boards!
I'm so confused by the pricing in germany. At 120€ the b550m Aorus pro is the 5th cheapest board out off all b550 boards.
But it is also unavailable. Maybe wrong pricing? Because it looks really good for the price.
Having just gotten an X570 Aorus Pro Wifi, I can confirm it was quite the experience when, after failing to post 3 or so times in a row since I was an idiot who thought the non-WiFi updated BIOS would work on it, the secondary BIOS suddenly kicked in. That said, I don't plan to overclock it too much, just to get some more stable performance, so while a switch for it would be more sane, I'm more or less okay with having a 2nd BIOS just in case something goes wrong, even if there is no switch for it (still have to trick 3 or so post fails to fix the initial borked BIOS tho!)
I can only imagine how insane it must be to have that crap switch on you nonstop, when you're regularly OCing stuff for fun and system crashes are part of the game!
With the B550 Master you can use the first m.2 and 16x for the GPU. Only if you go to 2x m.2 or more you go back to 8x for the GPU.
The B550M Aorus Elite actually is $110. $15 more than the DS3H. So you get an IO cover, bigger heatsink, and metal support for the 16x pcie slot. Also, B550 Aorus Pro is $130. Cheaper than guessed, so not too bad.
The Intersil controller looks to be a 6+2 design with doublers, it does mention that it uses doublers in the features page for some of the boards.
I grabbed the B550 Vision D based on this video lol
The B550 Aorus Master should work without compromise with only ONE m.2 drive because that one directly comes from the CPU. With 2 or 3 m.2 drives, you analysis is correct.
I think PCI-E x12 is actually standard compliant from an electrical perspective, but noone makes mechanically x12 slots. Also, some controllers and devices might not support operating in x12 mode at all. More importantly IIRC the AMD PCI-E controller does not support a 12+4 bifurcation mode.
I just like multiple M.2 because they're more convenient/cleaner to install drives in then 2.5 inch SSDs with SATA cables.
And I want moar SSD space. Once you get a taste you dont wanna go back to HDD ( I still use HDD but SSDs are so nice for games and games are getting ridiculously large these days)
I wish there were a Vision x570 board. I love the look of it and it would actually fit a good white build. Only good White boards are from Asus and without Wifi.
Fabian vision D has built in thunderbolt 3. When x570 came out it wouldn’t be possible.
The B550 chipset itself is only slightly better than B350 or B450 with the PCIe connectivity to chipset slots at 3.0 vs 2.0, everything else is the same.
The updated board specs for 4.0 and memory speeds is the major improvements and allowing X8X8 splitting of the CPU lanes allows for some bigger differences in board design, pity it's only seen on boards that are priced around that of a mid range X570 board.
It's strange though that VRM design is still either shitty on the low end or overkill.
Take the B550 Auros Pro, 12+2 50A DrMos, when really you only need 6+2 50A DrMos stages for most users as that'll happily run a 3950X and be ideal for a 3700/3800X as Zen2 desktop CPU's really can't pull much better than 200W with ambient cooling with any AMD 7nm CPU.
I'd much prefer that 6+2 50A DrMos than the 10+2 phase if using 4C60N's of the gaming X, which btw looks like one high and one low per phase rather than 1 or 2 highside and 2 lowside per phase, which is cheating.
Pro tip: You can manually trip the backup BIOS function by holding the power button for 5-6 seconds *while the power supply is switched off* thereby tricking the motherboard into thinking the current BIOS is bad and thus it will load the backup BIOS.
It probably would have been worth using the "Compare" tool on the Gigabyte site for some of these boards (esp. the Elite M vs the D3H) -- FYI all of the specs listed *are* identical
Just want to make a correction at 30:16 when you said that there isn't any advantage of going X570 for ITX with regards to PCI-E. This is false as X570 does give you PCI-E 4.0 on both M.2 slots as opposed to only one of them on the B550. This is due to the B550 chipset itself not having any PCI-E 4.0 uplink lanes but rather just relies on the CPU's 20 PCI-E 4 lanes for the x16 and one x4 M.2 slots. The X570 does have an x4 PCI-E 4.0 uplink which enables x4 PCI-E 4.0 on the second M.2 as well. This is important as X570 is the only ITX option if you want more than a single Gen4 NVMe drive.
Your videos are awesome!
I can't decide Asus 550 Tuf, ASRock steel legend or gigabyte Aorus Elite (all ATX boards).
I know the steel legend has strong wrm but I think the x2 nvme ports might become to slow if I purchase a second ssd sometime in the future.
The Aorus Elite seems nice and is cheap in my country but the ram speeds seems kind of slow. I know fast ram is only show, but who knows, Zen 3 might change that.
So what "future proof" mid-range b550 board would you recommend so I can upgrade to 16 core zen3 and 2nd fast sdd if they ever become affordable? I don't need lots of USB but 2xusb 3.1 gen2, 2.5G realtek lan, HDMI and displayport would be nice to have. But I realize I can't have everything on a mid-range board...
i feel a little bit pissed,i bought a x570 Elite a month ago..
But if the power delivery its the same ,what the Eck..
I have this feeling that MSI version of this video is near. I'm waiting for m-itx and m-atx
TDA21472 (70A) for the master
Vishay SIC651C (50A) for the PRO and ELITE
thanks for good video
Compile the rambles of all B550 Vendor and pick the best would be perfect man :)
Bz to the rescue.
As an owner of the Z370 gaming 7 I feel the pain of not having a bios switch.
I also do have a dedicated gigabyte bios backup usb.
When it comes to memory clocks aside from the fact ryzen doesnt need to go above 3800mhz the low mem speed ratings is because only the top boards get testing with TONs of kits. The lower end boards get tested with more common cheaper lower speeds PLUS theres a bit of an upsell going on "oh you want over 4000mhz ram then you better buy [more expensive board]" even if the cheaper boards could do 4800mhz they wont be marketed and rated as such.
So yeah b550 elite etc could probably do 4400mhz+ anyway.
It's the opposite of asrock.
first SSD slot has its own lanes to the cpu, no bifurcation in that
The msi b550 mitx motherboard is looking like the best b550 mitx motherboard
the M Elite and M DS3H have very long heatsinks which don't cover anything if there are no extra mosfets. It would be a really weird choke layout though. Are the heatsinks just long to make the VRM look bigger than it really is? Perhaps they had intended to use 2 low-side mosfets per phase when they designed the heatsinks, then went down to one per phase to cut costs?
Cheesezoid Merch?
'I ate BZ's ethernet cable' t-shirt. Kappa
how much power can go through the 8pin connector for the CPU?
And how much would i needto run with stable overclocks? You mention often, that the MSI extra 4 pin doesn't matter, but when i look at CPU's like the 3950X, they overclock well with a beefy cooler.
Looking at the Gigabyte Aorus Pro here, which you said you would prefer over the master
BuildZoid in that B550 master review that are coming up I hope you slam Gigabyte for not including a front port USB Type C header. There is no excuse for not including that in a $280 board considering that most people buying a board in that price range most likely will also pair it with a more expensive case that have such a front port. Gigabyte is the only one that are not including that header on any of the B550 boards including the master which is ridiculous and they deserve some flask for it...😡
I was bombarded with hate from some idiots in Reddit for defending this choice by Gigabyte.
It's because it all went to the Rear IO section of the board, though this only applies to those Gigabyte boards with 8+ USB ports. Either you get your USB Type C header but have an absolute shit Rear IO section like the B550 Tomahawk is, or get a really good Rear IO section but not have a Type C header.
It all really depends if you really need to use the Type C header. I have one in one of my cases but I'm fine with just hiding the cable. Just like Buildzoid, I barely even use any Type C devices.
As for the Gigabyte motherboards that have few USB ports but still don't have a type C header, that really deserves some shit.
Hey BZ, I think a lot of people have the same question, for the price of the B450 Tomahawk, there is any equal or stronger VRM and feature set? Without the PCI 4.0
You'd think that ITX boards would have BETTER rear I/O because usually ITX cases have less front panel stuff and you can't exactly use add in cards to get more connectivity...
16:24 "you can't get [Model M keyboards] in anything other than PS/2 since that's what they were made for" Oddly enough I am typing this on a model M keyboard that came from the factory with USB. It is true that the IBM PS/2 computer came with a model M keyboard though they predated that. However, as a keyboard enthusiast, I will say that having a PS/2 port on your machine is very handy. It's so much better than finding your stash of USB to PS2 adapters.
Personally I'm kinda relieved that Gigabyte falls short of mATX boards this gen in terms of componentry. Means I don't even have to concider dealing with a Gigabyte BIOS for this gen. I currently have a Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 and it took me about 3 years of tinkering until I got it completely stable at stock settings - XMP Profile of my 2133 RAM would produce occasional bluescreens (actually both the 1600mhz and the 2133mhz but no memtest errors either way) and after turning off power it oftentimes wouldn't boot and end up in a 30min bootloop till it finally switched to the second BIOS. I had to put in the RAM timings and voltage manually (just the ones from the 2133 XMP profile, mind you) to make it work 100% reliable. And nevermind getting the actual CPU overclock to run stable! UUUUUGH! On the plus side - if you can make this horribly buggy mess run stable you can make any board run stable.
And if this one already tops out at 4000Mhz I might very well run into similar issues even with just 3600Mhz RAM with that memory topology. So, nooooo...
The first second of the video is the best hi guyssss buildzoijjjjd here... 😂
Don't you control the BIOS chip by holding PWR + RST during turning ON ???
is that a thing? because the first time I've ever heard of that.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Yeah, I have X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming, and I found out during my "Why the f..." did I buy this motherboard moments, just like you mentioned with memory overclocking while I was trying to get best results.
www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php/697533-GUIDE-Forcing-backup-BIOS-on-Gigabyte-motherboards
superuser.com/questions/1141050/how-to-force-gigabyte-motherboard-to-boot-in-the-backup-bios-by-shorting-pins-on
I had a rough time until I found that out. And also, this was the way for me to flash the newer verions of BIOS on the second chip. Otherwise they were different versions and after a failback, I had to start all over again...
on the M.2 comments, I really don't understand why it's integrated on the motherboard since you can literally just put a PCIe slot on its place and use a card to install M.2 drives on that slot itself.
Last videos: "I'm not sure I'm gonna talk so much about B550".
One week later...50 min just for one brand :D
does extra low side mosfet at rear of the PCB without heatsink helps VRM thermal? I've always just assumed that penalty of being un-heatsinked outweighs benefit of lower resistance...
TPU review of B550 Aorus pro clearly shows one RAA229004 and six ISL6617A. my hypothesis would be 1. they are using "true phase" bit creatively, trying to emphasize that thier VRM has actually out-of-phase 12 phase unlike Asus's "teamed" or MSI's "Duet" thing or 2.they are not using ISL6617A as doubler, but that's something, so they are claiming it's 'true' 12 phase.
Thank you !!
A shame, really, the situation with the single-mode switch, it's very cheap and sensible option to implement (and it seems there's even space for that near the triple 4-pins where the bios switch tumblers are located on X470 Gaming 7 (which is very similar in IO and layout to this). Also, BIOS reset / restart buttons are missing from the back panel, it's very hand for OC'ing (so, if you want to buy decent board for $280, you might go with X470 Gaming 7, it's capable of running RAM at 4466+, has decent VRM and has sensible layout and connectivity options)
Buildzoid needs to learn ctrl+f [what you want to find]
Most of what I've read about Ryzen memory overclocking says to keep the infinity fabric the mem clock at the same frequency (1:1) with 1800 MHz IF and 3600 MT/s DDR being a sweet spot (maybe slightly higher depending on silicon). A lot of the improvements come from optimizing timings which is why the Ryzen memory calculator exists.
Is it really worth it to shell out more money for something that can support 5000+ MT/s when you can look for the same VRM in a board that may only support 4400?
I am looking to use a single CCD processor like the 3600.
Buildzoid are you any higher on the B550M Aorus Pro at the 130 dollar price point?
The B550 Aorus Pro is a 6+2 (real) or 12+2 (Virtual) (doubled, right?) the controller is a RAA229004 (max 8 phases), Elite is the same, Vision D seems to use that as well.
The Elite seems to have different spacing just because it's not the same PCB as Pro/ Vision D.
Yes it's 12+2 ( reality 6+2 ) and uses a doubler.
The flat curve heatsink is connected to the finned smaller heatsink via copper heatpipe
My board having no BIOS switch (X570 Aorus Pro Wifi) is the only reason why I'm not aggressive with my memory overclocks.
There are 8 mosfets in the Aorus B550M elite 40:14 . You missed the extra 3 towards the right