This channel needs to go viral, as it tells you the real truth, unlike anker. I cannot thank you enough for what you do and show us. I only hope your channel grows bigger.
The fact that modern power adapters cannot sustain their full load without thermal throttling is just sad. It should be able to perform at maximum capacity indefinitely. If it can't, that should be noted on the marketing materials.
Not sure if I agree, there always are going to be inefficiencies, and how often are you going to continuously draw full load? And if you know you're going to do so, why not buy a slightly more over provisioned charger?
Yeah, it's a question I ask a lot. It's the computer power supply problem, if you have a 150W CPU and a 300W graphics card you don't buy a 450W PSU, you buy a 750W PSU or more even. Many PC power supplies are optimized for maximum efficiency at half load too. But for USB chargers, I do think there could be clearer marketing, and there is a shift in power level, a 30 watt charger I expect to do 30 watts all the time, but a 100 watt charger that isn't much bigger, it's just not going to do it, it's too small to get the heat out. I agree on over provisioning though. I do that with the 165W Satechi, I use about 100 watts maximum and it's been extremely reliable. I think I should make a short follow up on this.
I stumbled upon your channel and appreciate your honest reviews! I plan on purchasing the 200w to use for our trip to Greece. What international adapter would you recommend in conjunction to the Anker 200?
@@AllThingsOnePlace you could do test with Satechi 200W but the look of anker is more beautiful and modern. My question is would you buy anker 250w for 135$ or Satechi200W?
I'd agree. If it's a desk power supply then there should be no issue making it a hair larger for better heatsinks and a fan. This device is one I would leave on a desk and not move. So size is less of an issue for me vs a travel supply.
Thank you for another wonderful review! I've created an (hopefully) improved version of the Cable Comparison table. Saw in another comment that you're not much of a SW guy (I'm not much of a HW guy), so hope this helps! Some of the improvements I've made: 1. Improved statistics accuracy (2 decimal points) 2. Added a reference to the max/min values, i.e. which cable(s) scored the max/min (Example: most expensive cable shows as cable #206) 3. Added a separate column for data transfer rates* 4. People will be able to copy this table and use table filters and sort options! 5. Additional visualization improvements Google spreadsheet ID: 1whYvrKok5RHmTfs5LhnTo7scp4cIWNUzwEvKwBnUZPM (Unfortunately links cannot be posted in the comments, so you'll have to go into any Google Spreadsheet document and replace the ID in the URL to access the doc) (Note: It has to be a Google SHEETS document, not Google DOCS) *I've filled everything I could in the "Data Transfer" column, some data was missing and couldn't fill it. If you'd like to use this new format please copy it and go over this column to make sure it's correct. I can assist further if needed and add additional features upon request :)
You can drag a slider and configure a port. If you enable it, then go to the screen that shows ai, two laptop, and etc. there will be a new option for custom. It’s all in the app.
Thanks! Yeah. I figured that would be coming down the line (at least in some capacity). I’ll probably never plug this in again though. Also that Samsung tablet I picked up already broke, haha.
Im not buying another power adapter for quite a while after getting the anker prime 67w but watching and listening to you talk about power power banks and adapters just makes me feel relaxed. I think you should start making audiobooks lol.
Thank you for reviewing these. Can you also keep your charts on your website up to date, and can you please include whether UPS or Passthru functionality is available for each power bank? This is important for using them for projects and currently I can't easily find which ones support it in your data. A column for if they shut down all ports on renegotiation, and a column for unusual renegotiation (such as looping) problems would be very welcome too.
Hey, thanks for all the tests! 5:41 It actually does support a slider for the wattage for each port (now after a firmware update lol), there are some restrictions (All USB Ports need at least 15W, only port 1 goes up to 140W, and the USB-A ports can switch between 15W and 24W) and you can only set the “custom charging modes” via the App. But it works actually quite well.
Thanks for the info! Yeah the switch for the usb a ports was missing. Slider is good. It’s certainly more configurable than anything else I’ve ever seen.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceIndeed, sad to see that it’s not good otherwise tho but I’m still going to keep it lol. Btw I’ve used my Satechi 165W almost daily for 2 years now and it’s still working like on day one.
I wanted to buy either of these but now content with 3 of my 737 150w chargers. I do like having the 4 usb-c plugs for bedside stand for laptop, ipad, 2 phones and usb-a for airpods. Oh well. I had the Nexode 300w but C2 usb-c plug port died and I am on the hunt for a 4 USB-C charger that can handle at least 200w. The search continues.
I’m dropping a comment just for the engagement and to help you with the algorit for your channel! This is top tier content and deserves a lot more credit!
If only that 250W unit wasn't so cloud-connected (and had better thermals), I'd be pretty interested. Very compelling feature-set, but I have zero interest in connecting my _power adapter_ to the internet (even my phone via bluetooth is pretty questionable) to use most of the features.
@AllThingsOnePlace - great content, qq - is the power quality/factor impactful for the devices charging? i.e. Weather this or Minix or Satechi, does it harm the device or is it all about efficiency off the grid?
Really like your videos. As a total noob when it comes to electronics: How relevant is your advice to me as someone living in Europe? Would your results differ if you were to perform them here on a different electrical grid? Thanks!
Well, you can see from this video, they actually optimized the 200W for operation on the higher voltage. It was not great on the lower voltage, but acceptable on 230V. In general, the idle power is a bit higher on 230 and the current is lower under heavier loads so often the efficiency will improve a bit.
thank you for your help and knowledge, it's greatly appreciated. I subscribed as I'm finding your channel extremely informative as I'm just starting to buy peripherals and need a good powerful desktop charger, that hopefully looks good, and we'll do the trick as it sits under my coffee table for now. I'm using the, new I guess, Ugreen 160 W Nexode Pro (paid $101 inc. 12% tax) for my iPhone 14/16 Pro Max's and future MacBook or iPad, but it's small and gets hot. I got it six weeks ago so I think it's too late to return, will use it for travel I guess unless you think it's adequate, I want something more permanent with more power, even though it would be overkill now, it won't be so much when I'm finished my set up, as I don't plan on replacing it anytime soon. Also curious on your advice of a power bank I just picked up, the latest UGREEN 200W 25,000 mHa model (paid $140 plus tax, reg $180). How do you think it stacks up compared to Anker's Prime 27,650 mHa version (currently 200+ tax on sale, reg. $250)? Or even UGREEN's 48,000 mHa badboy haha, although I won't be able to take that on flights. lol Yeah I know it's overkill, I can get it for 160 CAD inc. tax, less than all the others.
Thanks for the video! Anker released some new Nano series chargers, including a 1 port 100w one that's cheaper than their last ones, I'd love to see you test it at some point.
there is a firmware update already. The thing you said on 5:50 is wrong. There is a custom power diustrubition mode now. And each port can be set individually. The update was available already last week monday or so. Though in Germany.
First of thank you for your review videos. I need a small suggestion so that I can make the decision. Currently I am staying in USA, and I am planning to buy an Anker charger for my brother who is staying in India where the input voltage is AC - 240volts 50hertz. Which of the following will be safer to use. Mostly it’s for desktop use to charge the devices like 16inch MacBook Pro, iPad Pro, Apple Watch, iPhone, DJI batteries, monitors etc. and occasionally used during travel. 1. Anker Prime Charging Station, 240W 8-in-1 USB C Power Strip 2. Anker Prime Charger, 250W GaN Prime USB C Charging Station, Ultra-Fast 6-Port, 2.26" LCD Display and Smart Control Dial. Please let me know so that I can make the decision. Thanks & Appreciate it
Amazing videos i got a wuestion can u make a cable efficiency video i know i have made some in the past but i wiuld like too see a more up to date vid but satechi is prob still the best cables
I never clicked so fast on a review for a charger. 200W charger's efficiency is a disappointing. I wonder if it's alright for a MacBook Air (70W) and some smaller devices like phone, tablet, camera. Would love to buy a 4-port usb-c charger with detachable c7 cable for travel.
Damn, I went from excited to disappointed in the space of ten minutes. I guess I'll be sticking with my 140W Baseus for another year. Thank you. Your ongoing work on these reviews is much appreciated.
Another great vid. Any chance you can come up with an overall ranking of tested adapters for plebs like me? It's kind of hard to navigate all the data you're providing us with. On your site maybe having "Currently using" and "runner up" for each category? it's def time I replace my old 10 port USB-A desktop adapter that I bought on Amazon for $15 10 years ago, haha.
haha, yeah still working on that. I do go data heavy, and these videos are substantially more simplified. I worked on a page of best of but haven't finished it.
I'm going through your videos now, very much enjoying them. What is your current daily, and/or the #1 recommendation for power stations?@@AllThingsOnePlace
Great review, like your straight to the fact review style, can you also review PC PSUs, currently hwbusters is only channel which do serious PSU reviews, but it s always good to have more reviewers.
Yeah, doesn't gamersnexus do those too? I know LTT is doing them also. But yeah, I need to scale up the operation to do the larger PSU's and it's a $50k investment. Not gonna happen for my nano-sized channel. It isn't that I don't want to but I just can't afford that level.
@@AllThingsOnePlace wow $50K is a huge investment, I didnt realized that, hope your channel will grow so you can afford new gears, if you get a chance please review the new Anker 14+1 docking station, being a dock no sure it will have best power specs but still looks like a good product.
Hello, I have a few small suggestions. In your clip, at 8:27s, I see you set the electronic load to 100W, resulting in the charger operating at 5.2A per port. As I understand it, the operation is higher than the parameters of the PD charging standard (20V@5A). This setting is not true to reality because no device can pull the charger to operate at 5.2A unless using an electronic load. In addition, you use the voltage displayed on the load to evaluate, which in my opinion is not accurate because it is affected by the internal resistance of the Type C cable and the cable connected to the electronic load. To be more accurate, you can use a USB tester plugged into the charger output, then all influence of the cable will be eliminated and the results will remain unchanged even if different long or short cables are used. Hope you have more good and accurate clips in the future.
Sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious because you make some interesting points and this is just to add some info. not to take from your arguments :) But I just wanted to say that, since the voltage in 20V mode is quite low with this charger (I assume it would still be low and under 20V if measured at the source as you suggested, which is also where I usually place my USB tester), his equipment obviously had to increase the current to 5.2A to reach the 100W load that it was asked to pull.
@@modecir In electronic tests and measurements, it is necessary to limit external factors that can affect the measurement. For that reason, it is necessary to measure Ripple & noise, voltage... as close to the source as possible. In addition, each device or charger has nominal parameters (W, V, A...) announced by the manufacturer. Changing parameters during testing, for example current, leads to changes in many related technical parameters such as performance, voltage noise, voltage drop, PF, CF, THD.... If It's an overload test or an OCP function test... then it's ok, but to evaluate whether the product operates within specifications or not, the published parameters need to be used.
I really like the idea behind the 250W configurable desktop adapter. Hopefully we see more products in this class with better idle efficiency and thermals. IMO, even active cooling would be OK in this form factor if it only turns on under high load. The proprietary app and need for Wifi is concerning, though. It would be wonderful if they did everything through Bluetooth with well-documented protocols. That could even allow for Home Assistant integration.
Can you do the new Anker: "Anker Charging Station(100W), 9-in-1 USB C Power Strip with 300J Surge Protection, 4 USB-C and 2 USB-A Ports, 3 AC Outlets" This channel is great, thanks for being so detailed and clear
I'm looking for something to power 3x LG 27GP850 monitors, in order to jump from three plugs in wall sockets to one - Do you have any advice on what power supplies/chargers this would be viable with? :) Love the thoroughness put into these videos, even if you're bored of reviewing them :D
haha, yeah, getting bored for sure. This one was more interesting. I'd probably look at the Anker 240W from last year. That might be up to that task if you can find it on sale. It will do the negotiation wiggle when you first plug things in but should settle out. You may have to use PD trigger cables, pretty sure LG monitors are still using normal barrel plugs not PD USB C for power in.
Thanks! I picked up the 200w for $50usd, it's replaced a few lower wattage adapters but it does get very hot if I plug a laptop into it. I mostly use it to charge batteries. Occasionally it does fail to negotiate and stops delivering power but it's been pretty inconsistent, it could be the cable or the equipment but I haven't noticed that behavior it on some of my older adapters.
Yeah, battery packs are the tough load scenario. It's when I can get them to turn off as well doing real work. The Ankers larger power banks will pull right to 100W on a 100W port.
Can you also test the charger from Nothing, the 65W from CMF or the 45W. And I know you said you don't want to test an Aukey charger anymore but their Aukey 67W UFCS 3-Port is supposed to have a 96% energy conversion rate, which would be very high if it is indeed that high.
Yeah the cmf is here (working on that for probably early October with a bunch of others). The aukey is very likely not at that level, is it possible sure, I won’t discount it though so added it to the list.
I'd be very wary of even bothering to download the app to configure anything with the charger. Anker has a horrible track record of selling off customer information and not too long ago, accessing their cameras and claiming it to be encrypted when in fact it wasn't. The fact they're pushing the idea of connecting to WI-FI for a charging station is absurd, and goes to show they can't be trusted for a lot of their products.
The fact that a CHARGER, of all things now requires an app is just insane to me. It's just extra hassle, when these controls could be built into the charger's firmware itself or automatically configured.
I bought the 200w unit a couple days ago. plug it in to my acer laptop to charge it and it cycles on and off every 5-10 seconds. Phone charged just fine. I ran the battery down and pressed the battery disconnect button. Now it appears to be working. A very poor first impression of fancy charging. Makes me wonder what was actually happening. That laptop has charged with every usbc plug I've ever owned.
me? no idea. haha Is there a power bank playlist? I haven't done 'just raw batteries' as a thing. I generally look at that as calculations not a product.
Hi, I have a basic question: When a USB-A port charger is advertised as ‘up to 2.4A max’ (and only capable of 5V output), does that mean it will be able to operate at lower current settings too, such as 1A, based on a device’s needs? I have an Anker Powerport 2 Elite USB-A Charger (A2023) and wanted to know be sure it’s safe for low current devices (eg, 5V/1A). Thanks in advance!
Yes, that should be fine. The charger won't force more current into the device just because it can. It is the responsibility of the device manufacturer to make sure they limit charging to whatever the product can handle. A lot of cheap products skip this step and some very expensive ones. I have a $20,000 piece of test equipment that blows up batteries regularly, purely the charging circuit. Of course they also serialized the battery with a chip so you can't replace the cells either.
If you update to the newest firmware there is a new option, called customize. You can then set each port to a default power. I really like to charge my phone slowly over night (it’s better for battery life and I don’t care about the charging speed at night), therefore this is a selling feature to me. Just set one port to 10W and I am gucci. On top set it to 3h and voila, no necessary energy wasted. These two features alone are selling me this product.
Yeah, i’m one of those rare few who actually has a use case for the 300w Ugreen, so when it breaks out of warranty i’ll probably be picking up that 250w anker. hopefully they’ll suck it up and put a fan on one of these in the future… if a device comes out that actually supports 240w of charging then having the adapter trip for thermals after 30 mins would be… not great
You should look into getting a 240W reference design to have a reference for when we get 240w chargers. I would love to see a real ideal power or "realistic" ideal power on the test results page.
aww man, really dissapointed on the 250w one. I might buy it regardless just for the feature set and the fact that there aren't too many chargers out there that can do 140w+100w (two laptops) or 100w+60w+30w (laptop+tablet+phone). hopefully there are more of those coming that will perform better
Will you be making "The best USB power adapters/power banks" for 2024? Also, while the reviews you make aid greatly, it's still hard to figure out which ones are the best in class. Like, some older models, (like Anker's 737 120W adapter) look to be really good in comparison with the latest offerings (recently released 100W Anker Prime), but are they really?
Only a few of them get long term use. Most of them are in bins in storage. Some I resell cause yeah no one needs this many power adapters. There are some regulars, usually whatever ends up in the end of the year showcase.
I purchased the new 200w and I don't know if I should return or just keep. I won't be maxing the output and I enjoy the port selection. The Satechi does not come with usb a ports. Do I just pay more for the prior anker prime 240w which is currently going for $140? Just looking for a good 100w plus desktop charger with usb c and usb a ports.
What is the behaviour of renegotiation? I think you mentioned in the past video but not this one. And I believe renegotiation issue is the most importance thing I concern so much.
For just a bit more money I picked up a Solix C300 DC portable power station that has 300w maximum output...2x 140w (2-way for charging as well) USB-c, 1x 100w usb-c and 1x 15w usb-c along with 2x 15w usb-a, 100w xt60 solar input and 1x 12v 10a accessory in/out plus light and 288wh of internal LFP battery
I looked at one with a fan, it was used as an excuse to be horrendously poor efficiency wise, it didn't overheat though. It's efficiency and thermal management. I look at the 180W framework brick, no fan needed and it is very efficient.
I probably missed it, but does the 200W renegotiate when you plug anything in? I still don't get it why those things are renegotiating at all: the 250W certainly has power monitors built-in so they know if the system is overloaded or not, if it isn't, there's absolutely no point in renegotiating, if there're is, they could simply send an update to a high power device, requesting to draw less; if that device doesn't obey, they could simply reset that one port to force a renegotiation. Power renegotiation is the pest of our time... 😠
Yes, it does but it is very fast at least. Yeah, it should just be handled as you say, the technology is here, for some reason buttons and odd behavior is chosen instead.
I just ordered the 200 watt charger and also four 10ft 100watt rated anker usb c-c cables. i just need to be able to charge my phone, ipad mini, apple watch and various controllers from time to time. I am just sick of having to have power bricks all over the dang house and none of them are the same wattage either. I am planning on just setting this up on my desk with my new cables and stuff and just charging various items.
This should be able to do that fine. It seems a valid use case for this charger. Mostly lower powered devices and occasional needs to charge a larger device.
@@AllThingsOnePlace oh yeah I love this thing it’s like having a powerful single charging brick on my desk. I can charge anything I want at any time and everything charges quickly
Hi, I'm currently in the market for a good desktop charger that will charge 2 laptops simultaneously + phones and other peripherals when needed. Currently looking between the Anker Prime 200w and Ugreen Nexode 200w as they're at a similar price point (Ugreen about $10~ more expensive than Anker). I am based in Australia so assuming 230V. Do you have any recommendations between these two? Or if you'd suggest looking into something else entirely. Thank you!
the only way i can see connecting the charger to wifi is for the controls that maybe aren’t possible with just the app. how would you control the remote charging without the charger being connected to wifi?
Right now, Anker A2343 for a compact charger. The Baseus Gan3 100W desktop is still my home use charger for lots of things though, it's certainly got some quality control issues though.
this is something i've been looking for years now, the only thing missing from this is data connections. i'd pay for this if they removed the account creation for data connections
The AC one has charging built in. The DC one, can use two 140W charging bricks at once for 280W maximum charging speed. If you wanted to stay Anker I'd probably get the 240W charger from last year. IT would keep the efficiency high. If it only gets pushed to 140 watts I'd expect it to last decently long as well.
Thanks, yeah, they change them out once in a while, I'll get it updated. Anyways, I should just change them all for the generic link and have people search for the thing they want to prevent link rot issues.
@@AllThingsOnePlace What's your recommendation for a >65 W (up to 200W) that's a bang for the buck and doesn't renegotiate when plugging in more devices? I hate having the R Pi restart or Mac in Clamshell mode disconnect and lock every time I plug in devices.
The Zmi no20, it's expensive but should run 2 tablets for a reasonable while. It depends on usage and needs. At full tilt it'll be flat in under an hour. The larger power stations would hold up for longer, but depends on whether you want a luggable or a bag size power bank.
Yikes, thanks for this review, I was just about to buy this thing but it requires an internet tether? I am so sick of internet tethered devices that end up going unsupported and end up useless. Definitely a solid N-O on buying this (250w unit)
Wait, did I get this right - the user can't use all the features unless it's connected to a wifi? I mean all those extras except 30s real-time power curve seem useless from my perspective
I like the design of the 250w power supply. And I would like to have it in clock mode mostly. But seeing it needs the app just to do that? Pass. I don't need a charger to collect data just to be a clock. It already seems to have that function so there is no reason it needs an app just for that.
I don't want a closed app that the vendor is gonna remove from the store in 2 years. I want a well documented REST API or similar. Open source app is a bonus. And no way that thing is getting internet access!
Thank you for your reviews! I never buy a charger without your review
ha, I don't know if I'd go that far.
This channel needs to go viral, as it tells you the real truth, unlike anker. I cannot thank you enough for what you do and show us. I only hope your channel grows bigger.
Yeah, he deserves to at least be up there with Torque Test Channel!
Best charger reviews on RUclips
Agree. His reviews are the best.
Torque test is a great channel. I need to watch more of that... No make videos not watch videos, haha.
@@iridium8341they have great chargers but they're starting to get very expensive. I might have to switch to Ugreen or Baseus.
The fact that modern power adapters cannot sustain their full load without thermal throttling is just sad. It should be able to perform at maximum capacity indefinitely. If it can't, that should be noted on the marketing materials.
Not sure if I agree, there always are going to be inefficiencies, and how often are you going to continuously draw full load? And if you know you're going to do so, why not buy a slightly more over provisioned charger?
Yeah, it's a question I ask a lot. It's the computer power supply problem, if you have a 150W CPU and a 300W graphics card you don't buy a 450W PSU, you buy a 750W PSU or more even. Many PC power supplies are optimized for maximum efficiency at half load too. But for USB chargers, I do think there could be clearer marketing, and there is a shift in power level, a 30 watt charger I expect to do 30 watts all the time, but a 100 watt charger that isn't much bigger, it's just not going to do it, it's too small to get the heat out. I agree on over provisioning though. I do that with the 165W Satechi, I use about 100 watts maximum and it's been extremely reliable. I think I should make a short follow up on this.
I stumbled upon your channel and appreciate your honest reviews! I plan on purchasing the 200w to use for our trip to Greece. What international adapter would you recommend in conjunction to the Anker 200?
@@AllThingsOnePlace you could do test with Satechi 200W but the look of anker is more beautiful and modern. My question is would you buy anker 250w for 135$ or Satechi200W?
I'd agree. If it's a desk power supply then there should be no issue making it a hair larger for better heatsinks and a fan. This device is one I would leave on a desk and not move. So size is less of an issue for me vs a travel supply.
Thank you for another wonderful review!
I've created an (hopefully) improved version of the Cable Comparison table.
Saw in another comment that you're not much of a SW guy (I'm not much of a HW guy), so hope this helps!
Some of the improvements I've made:
1. Improved statistics accuracy (2 decimal points)
2. Added a reference to the max/min values, i.e. which cable(s) scored the max/min (Example: most expensive cable shows as cable #206)
3. Added a separate column for data transfer rates*
4. People will be able to copy this table and use table filters and sort options!
5. Additional visualization improvements
Google spreadsheet ID: 1whYvrKok5RHmTfs5LhnTo7scp4cIWNUzwEvKwBnUZPM
(Unfortunately links cannot be posted in the comments, so you'll have to go into any Google Spreadsheet document and replace the ID in the URL to access the doc)
(Note: It has to be a Google SHEETS document, not Google DOCS)
*I've filled everything I could in the "Data Transfer" column, some data was missing and couldn't fill it.
If you'd like to use this new format please copy it and go over this column to make sure it's correct.
I can assist further if needed and add additional features upon request :)
You can drag a slider and configure a port. If you enable it, then go to the screen that shows ai, two laptop, and etc. there will be a new option for custom. It’s all in the app.
Thanks! Yeah. I figured that would be coming down the line (at least in some capacity). I’ll probably never plug this in again though. Also that Samsung tablet I picked up already broke, haha.
Im not buying another power adapter for quite a while after getting the anker prime 67w but watching and listening to you talk about power power banks and adapters just makes me feel relaxed. I think you should start making audiobooks lol.
Thanks!
@@AllThingsOnePlace keep up the good work! I bought the anker prime after watching your videos. You really helped me a lot!
Thank you for reviewing these. Can you also keep your charts on your website up to date, and can you please include whether UPS or Passthru functionality is available for each power bank? This is important for using them for projects and currently I can't easily find which ones support it in your data. A column for if they shut down all ports on renegotiation, and a column for unusual renegotiation (such as looping) problems would be very welcome too.
Thanks for reviewing these!!
No problem.
Hey, thanks for all the tests! 5:41 It actually does support a slider for the wattage for each port (now after a firmware update lol), there are some restrictions (All USB Ports need at least 15W, only port 1 goes up to 140W, and the USB-A ports can switch between 15W and 24W) and you can only set the “custom charging modes” via the App.
But it works actually quite well.
Thanks for the info! Yeah the switch for the usb a ports was missing. Slider is good. It’s certainly more configurable than anything else I’ve ever seen.
@ilsalmeron thanks for the info!
@@AllThingsOnePlaceIndeed, sad to see that it’s not good otherwise tho but I’m still going to keep it lol.
Btw I’ve used my Satechi 165W almost daily for 2 years now and it’s still working like on day one.
What is the wattage range that you can set the usb-c to?
@@13chase2 if you add them together it can’t be more than 250W
But the USB 1 Port can go from 15W - 140W
And USB 2 - 4 Ports can go from 15W - 100W
Thanks a lot for two great reviews! Now we have the full picture of the current high power multiport desktop adapter landscape.
thanks for watching.
I wanted to buy either of these but now content with 3 of my 737 150w chargers. I do like having the 4 usb-c plugs for bedside stand for laptop, ipad, 2 phones and usb-a for airpods. Oh well. I had the Nexode 300w but C2 usb-c plug port died and I am on the hunt for a 4 USB-C charger that can handle at least 200w. The search continues.
I’m dropping a comment just for the engagement and to help you with the algorit for your channel! This is top tier content and deserves a lot more credit!
Thanks.
If only that 250W unit wasn't so cloud-connected (and had better thermals), I'd be pretty interested. Very compelling feature-set, but I have zero interest in connecting my _power adapter_ to the internet (even my phone via bluetooth is pretty questionable) to use most of the features.
Yeah, that 250W has issues.
@AllThingsOnePlace - great content, qq - is the power quality/factor impactful for the devices charging? i.e. Weather this or Minix or Satechi, does it harm the device or is it all about efficiency off the grid?
Nice stuff!
Anker Prime 250W vs UGREEN 300W NEXODE
Which one do you suggest (despite the 50W more on Ugreen)?
Anker probably wins that one with the configuration options. The UGREEN is too unreliable.
Thanks for the excelent review! Are there any 100w chargers which keep providing 100w after 30min of usage?
Yeah, the A2343 and the 240W Anker from last year were both fine. Apple chargers generally meet the rating on the box.
Thanks for your respone!
Really like your videos. As a total noob when it comes to electronics: How relevant is your advice to me as someone living in Europe? Would your results differ if you were to perform them here on a different electrical grid?
Thanks!
Well, you can see from this video, they actually optimized the 200W for operation on the higher voltage. It was not great on the lower voltage, but acceptable on 230V. In general, the idle power is a bit higher on 230 and the current is lower under heavier loads so often the efficiency will improve a bit.
thank you for your help and knowledge, it's greatly appreciated. I subscribed as I'm finding your channel extremely informative as I'm just starting to buy peripherals and need a good powerful desktop charger, that hopefully looks good, and we'll do the trick as it sits under my coffee table for now.
I'm using the, new I guess, Ugreen 160 W Nexode Pro (paid $101 inc. 12% tax) for my iPhone 14/16 Pro Max's and future MacBook or iPad, but it's small and gets hot. I got it six weeks ago so I think it's too late to return, will use it for travel I guess unless you think it's adequate, I want something more permanent with more power, even though it would be overkill now, it won't be so much when I'm finished my set up, as I don't plan on replacing it anytime soon.
Also curious on your advice of a power bank I just picked up, the latest UGREEN 200W 25,000 mHa model (paid $140 plus tax, reg $180). How do you think it stacks up compared to Anker's Prime 27,650 mHa version (currently 200+ tax on sale, reg. $250)? Or even UGREEN's 48,000 mHa badboy haha, although I won't be able to take that on flights. lol Yeah I know it's overkill, I can get it for 160 CAD inc. tax, less than all the others.
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Thanks for the video! Anker released some new Nano series chargers, including a 1 port 100w one that's cheaper than their last ones, I'd love to see you test it at some point.
Yeah, always more to check out from team Anker.
there is a firmware update already. The thing you said on 5:50 is wrong. There is a custom power diustrubition mode now. And each port can be set individually. The update was available already last week monday or so. Though in Germany.
Mmmhmm, yeah. A few have commented on it. I shot the video in august. But also why I asked for feedback on the future updates. Thanks for updating.
These reviews are really interesting; thank you again!
Thanks for watching.
First of thank you for your review videos.
I need a small suggestion so that I can make the decision.
Currently I am staying in USA, and I am planning to buy an Anker charger for my brother who is staying in India where the input voltage is AC - 240volts 50hertz.
Which of the following will be safer to use. Mostly it’s for desktop use to charge the devices like 16inch MacBook Pro, iPad Pro, Apple Watch, iPhone, DJI batteries, monitors etc. and occasionally used during travel.
1. Anker Prime Charging Station, 240W 8-in-1 USB C Power Strip
2. Anker Prime Charger, 250W GaN Prime USB C Charging Station, Ultra-Fast 6-Port, 2.26" LCD Display and Smart Control Dial.
Please let me know so that I can make the decision.
Thanks & Appreciate it
Amazing videos i got a wuestion can u make a cable efficiency video i know i have made some in the past but i wiuld like too see a more up to date vid but satechi is prob still the best cables
Yeah, I need to make an update to that video, throw in some of the new thunderbolt 5 cables too.
I never clicked so fast on a review for a charger. 200W charger's efficiency is a disappointing. I wonder if it's alright for a MacBook Air (70W) and some smaller devices like phone, tablet, camera. Would love to buy a 4-port usb-c charger with detachable c7 cable for travel.
Nice vid mate , really huge fan of what you're doing, much appreciated
I’m gonna lose count on writing ‘another awesome review’. Great job sir!
haha, thanks!
I got an ad for this adapter and wanted your take! Awesome!!
Thanks!
Damn, I went from excited to disappointed in the space of ten minutes. I guess I'll be sticking with my 140W Baseus for another year. Thank you. Your ongoing work on these reviews is much appreciated.
ha
Another great vid. Any chance you can come up with an overall ranking of tested adapters for plebs like me? It's kind of hard to navigate all the data you're providing us with. On your site maybe having "Currently using" and "runner up" for each category? it's def time I replace my old 10 port USB-A desktop adapter that I bought on Amazon for $15 10 years ago, haha.
haha, yeah still working on that. I do go data heavy, and these videos are substantially more simplified. I worked on a page of best of but haven't finished it.
@@AllThingsOnePlace haha, looking forward to it!
I'm going through your videos now, very much enjoying them. What is your current daily, and/or the #1 recommendation for power stations?@@AllThingsOnePlace
Great review, like your straight to the fact review style, can you also review PC PSUs, currently hwbusters is only channel which do serious PSU reviews, but it s always good to have more reviewers.
Yeah, doesn't gamersnexus do those too? I know LTT is doing them also. But yeah, I need to scale up the operation to do the larger PSU's and it's a $50k investment. Not gonna happen for my nano-sized channel. It isn't that I don't want to but I just can't afford that level.
@@AllThingsOnePlace wow $50K is a huge investment, I didnt realized that, hope your channel will grow so you can afford new gears, if you get a chance please review the new Anker 14+1 docking station, being a dock no sure it will have best power specs but still looks like a good product.
I like tech, so even though I own the two 200w models, I'm going to buy 250w model on Black Friday! Yay!
Great video as always!
Are you going to test and review Belkin BoostCharge Pro 200W?
It’s a never ending game, haha. Yeah I should check that one out the other Belkin ones don’t do bad.
Hello, I have a few small suggestions.
In your clip, at 8:27s, I see you set the electronic load to 100W, resulting in the charger operating at 5.2A per port. As I understand it, the operation is higher than the parameters of the PD charging standard (20V@5A). This setting is not true to reality because no device can pull the charger to operate at 5.2A unless using an electronic load.
In addition, you use the voltage displayed on the load to evaluate, which in my opinion is not accurate because it is affected by the internal resistance of the Type C cable and the cable connected to the electronic load.
To be more accurate, you can use a USB tester plugged into the charger output, then all influence of the cable will be eliminated and the results will remain unchanged even if different long or short cables are used.
Hope you have more good and accurate clips in the future.
Sorry if I'm pointing out the obvious because you make some interesting points and this is just to add some info. not to take from your arguments :)
But I just wanted to say that, since the voltage in 20V mode is quite low with this charger (I assume it would still be low and under 20V if measured at the source as you suggested, which is also where I usually place my USB tester), his equipment obviously had to increase the current to 5.2A to reach the 100W load that it was asked to pull.
@@modecir In electronic tests and measurements, it is necessary to limit external factors that can affect the measurement. For that reason, it is necessary to measure Ripple & noise, voltage... as close to the source as possible.
In addition, each device or charger has nominal parameters (W, V, A...) announced by the manufacturer. Changing parameters during testing, for example current, leads to changes in many related technical parameters such as performance, voltage noise, voltage drop, PF, CF, THD.... If It's an overload test or an OCP function test... then it's ok, but to evaluate whether the product operates within specifications or not, the published parameters need to be used.
Thanks.
In your opinion what is the best charging station available currently?
I'm using the Satechi 165W, for my needs it's the best one.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Would the Satechi 200W be as good? Looks like the same as the165W with an extra usb c PD port.
@@robertweintraub5418 It didn't test all that great. Lower efficiency.
@@AllThingsOnePlaceha- I got one based on your testing and it now powers everything around my bedroom night table. Never gets warm either. Thanks!
Sounds like a perfect device to snoop in on your home network.
Yeah, lots of potential for mischief.
Oh your phone and laptop and pc and tv and game console
A simple charger, and so many things to check. This is why i love this channel
It's still far from complete but have to draw the line somewhere.
I really like the idea behind the 250W configurable desktop adapter. Hopefully we see more products in this class with better idle efficiency and thermals. IMO, even active cooling would be OK in this form factor if it only turns on under high load.
The proprietary app and need for Wifi is concerning, though. It would be wonderful if they did everything through Bluetooth with well-documented protocols. That could even allow for Home Assistant integration.
Yeah, the capability is amazing.
Great review. Thanks for checking out the Bluetooth/internet features!
No problem. It's neat that they are present, but it's sad they limit them. Anyway, that Samsung tablet already broke and went back.. hahaha
Can you do the new Anker: "Anker Charging Station(100W), 9-in-1 USB C Power Strip with 300J Surge Protection, 4 USB-C and 2 USB-A Ports, 3 AC Outlets"
This channel is great, thanks for being so detailed and clear
Thanks for the suggestion. It’ll probably be a while. I have a large backlog right now
Any recommendations for good usb c charger? Is the anker A2683 good enough or there’s better option? TIA
I'm looking for something to power 3x LG 27GP850 monitors, in order to jump from three plugs in wall sockets to one - Do you have any advice on what power supplies/chargers this would be viable with? :) Love the thoroughness put into these videos, even if you're bored of reviewing them :D
haha, yeah, getting bored for sure. This one was more interesting. I'd probably look at the Anker 240W from last year. That might be up to that task if you can find it on sale. It will do the negotiation wiggle when you first plug things in but should settle out. You may have to use PD trigger cables, pretty sure LG monitors are still using normal barrel plugs not PD USB C for power in.
Thanks. Do these adapter produce a dropout when another USB-C device is connected?
The 200W will but it is very fast. The 250 is programable to keep a port active without dropping out. But then the others will.
Thanks! I picked up the 200w for $50usd, it's replaced a few lower wattage adapters but it does get very hot if I plug a laptop into it. I mostly use it to charge batteries.
Occasionally it does fail to negotiate and stops delivering power but it's been pretty inconsistent, it could be the cable or the equipment but I haven't noticed that behavior it on some of my older adapters.
Can I ask where you found it for $50?
@@occamsrazor000 Amazon does sales from time to time but it probably varies on region.
Yeah, battery packs are the tough load scenario. It's when I can get them to turn off as well doing real work. The Ankers larger power banks will pull right to 100W on a 100W port.
Can you also test the charger from Nothing, the 65W from CMF or the 45W.
And I know you said you don't want to test an Aukey charger anymore but their Aukey 67W UFCS 3-Port is supposed to have a 96% energy conversion rate, which would be very high if it is indeed that high.
Yeah the cmf is here (working on that for probably early October with a bunch of others). The aukey is very likely not at that level, is it possible sure, I won’t discount it though so added it to the list.
@@AllThingsOnePlace great
I'd be very wary of even bothering to download the app to configure anything with the charger. Anker has a horrible track record of selling off customer information and not too long ago, accessing their cameras and claiming it to be encrypted when in fact it wasn't. The fact they're pushing the idea of connecting to WI-FI for a charging station is absurd, and goes to show they can't be trusted for a lot of their products.
It’s a Chinese company after all. The majority of western world simply underestimate the risks there
You're right, but I really want the functionality, so it's very tempting...
The fact that a CHARGER, of all things now requires an app is just insane to me. It's just extra hassle, when these controls could be built into the charger's firmware itself or automatically configured.
Yeah, the 'smart' features for a power adapter that ultimately just make it less efficient as it's primary drive.
I bought the 200w unit a couple days ago. plug it in to my acer laptop to charge it and it cycles on and off every 5-10 seconds. Phone charged just fine.
I ran the battery down and pressed the battery disconnect button. Now it appears to be working. A very poor first impression of fancy charging. Makes me wonder what was actually happening. That laptop has charged with every usbc plug I've ever owned.
Thanks for the review and methodical analysis. Well done!
Glad it was helpful!
Is there a way to find what batteries he likes best for various use cases? I don’t see a playlist or video title for what I’m looking for
me? no idea. haha Is there a power bank playlist? I haven't done 'just raw batteries' as a thing. I generally look at that as calculations not a product.
Hi, I have a basic question: When a USB-A port charger is advertised as ‘up to 2.4A max’ (and only capable of 5V output), does that mean it will be able to operate at lower current settings too, such as 1A, based on a device’s needs? I have an Anker Powerport 2 Elite USB-A Charger (A2023) and wanted to know be sure it’s safe for low current devices (eg, 5V/1A). Thanks in advance!
Yes, that should be fine. The charger won't force more current into the device just because it can. It is the responsibility of the device manufacturer to make sure they limit charging to whatever the product can handle. A lot of cheap products skip this step and some very expensive ones. I have a $20,000 piece of test equipment that blows up batteries regularly, purely the charging circuit. Of course they also serialized the battery with a chip so you can't replace the cells either.
If you update to the newest firmware there is a new option, called customize. You can then set each port to a default power. I really like to charge my phone slowly over night (it’s better for battery life and I don’t care about the charging speed at night), therefore this is a selling feature to me. Just set one port to 10W and I am gucci. On top set it to 3h and voila, no necessary energy wasted. These two features alone are selling me this product.
Yeah, it's a cool toy.
Thank you I am looking for a phone type charger that I can set a schedule. I think this does that ? Do I need the App the run a schedule ?
Yeah, i’m one of those rare few who actually has a use case for the 300w Ugreen, so when it breaks out of warranty i’ll probably be picking up that 250w anker.
hopefully they’ll suck it up and put a fan on one of these in the future… if a device comes out that actually supports 240w of charging then having the adapter trip for thermals after 30 mins would be… not great
You should look into getting a 240W reference design to have a reference for when we get 240w chargers. I would love to see a real ideal power or "realistic" ideal power on the test results page.
Yeah, they have to be coming right, thunderbolt 5 requires it.
aww man, really dissapointed on the 250w one. I might buy it regardless just for the feature set and the fact that there aren't too many chargers out there that can do 140w+100w (two laptops) or 100w+60w+30w (laptop+tablet+phone). hopefully there are more of those coming that will perform better
Yeah, the 240W charger from last year does that all that. No idea how they got so far from that in one year.
Will you be making "The best USB power adapters/power banks" for 2024? Also, while the reviews you make aid greatly, it's still hard to figure out which ones are the best in class. Like, some older models, (like Anker's 737 120W adapter) look to be really good in comparison with the latest offerings (recently released 100W Anker Prime), but are they really?
Yes, I will. Yeah, a lot of the 'older' ones are holding up it seems.
Nice video, thermals of power adapters disappointing though, which that is very sad pattern.
Yeah.
Since you got so many charger. Can you explain or describe the lifespan of your chargers?
Only a few of them get long term use. Most of them are in bins in storage. Some I resell cause yeah no one needs this many power adapters. There are some regulars, usually whatever ends up in the end of the year showcase.
I purchased the new 200w and I don't know if I should return or just keep. I won't be maxing the output and I enjoy the port selection. The Satechi does not come with usb a ports. Do I just pay more for the prior anker prime 240w which is currently going for $140? Just looking for a good 100w plus desktop charger with usb c and usb a ports.
The 200W is the better of the newer Anker chargers at least. If it's working, keep it.
Using a power adapter at the power it's rated to provide is NOT an "abusive condition", by definition.
haha, yeah.
If they’re both selling for the same price, is the older 200w UGREEN Nexode the better choice over the 200w Anker?
That's a good question. It may be worth considering.
What is the behaviour of renegotiation? I think you mentioned in the past video but not this one. And I believe renegotiation issue is the most importance thing I concern so much.
For just a bit more money I picked up a Solix C300 DC portable power station that has 300w maximum output...2x 140w (2-way for charging as well) USB-c, 1x 100w usb-c and 1x 15w usb-c along with 2x 15w usb-a, 100w xt60 solar input and 1x 12v 10a accessory in/out plus light and 288wh of internal LFP battery
Yeah, that's a lot of power and a decent sized battery as well. Thanks for the suggestion.
Got the 200W on 230v and I love it for the price (60€ on Sale).
Nice!
Thanks for the coverage!
Any time!
Fantastic review. Thank you for reviewing.
Thanks!
So do 200W chargers need active cooling, like a fan? Would you like such idea?
I looked at one with a fan, it was used as an excuse to be horrendously poor efficiency wise, it didn't overheat though. It's efficiency and thermal management. I look at the 180W framework brick, no fan needed and it is very efficient.
I probably missed it, but does the 200W renegotiate when you plug anything in? I still don't get it why those things are renegotiating at all: the 250W certainly has power monitors built-in so they know if the system is overloaded or not, if it isn't, there's absolutely no point in renegotiating, if there're is, they could simply send an update to a high power device, requesting to draw less; if that device doesn't obey, they could simply reset that one port to force a renegotiation. Power renegotiation is the pest of our time... 😠
Yes, it does but it is very fast at least. Yeah, it should just be handled as you say, the technology is here, for some reason buttons and odd behavior is chosen instead.
I just ordered the 200 watt charger and also four 10ft 100watt rated anker usb c-c cables. i just need to be able to charge my phone, ipad mini, apple watch and various controllers from time to time. I am just sick of having to have power bricks all over the dang house and none of them are the same wattage either. I am planning on just setting this up on my desk with my new cables and stuff and just charging various items.
This should be able to do that fine. It seems a valid use case for this charger. Mostly lower powered devices and occasional needs to charge a larger device.
@@AllThingsOnePlace oh yeah I love this thing it’s like having a powerful single charging brick on my desk. I can charge anything I want at any time and everything charges quickly
Thank you for an amazing review. Very helpful.
Thanks!
Hi, I'm currently in the market for a good desktop charger that will charge 2 laptops simultaneously + phones and other peripherals when needed. Currently looking between the Anker Prime 200w and Ugreen Nexode 200w as they're at a similar price point (Ugreen about $10~ more expensive than Anker). I am based in Australia so assuming 230V. Do you have any recommendations between these two? Or if you'd suggest looking into something else entirely. Thank you!
I'd pick the Anker, just for the general track record of more reliable.
@@AllThingsOnePlace Thank you! I thought that too but was confused as to why it was cheaper
wow im so happy I found this channel
Thanks!
What do you think about Anker Prime 150w vs Anker 200w. Which one is better ?
The ganprime 150 is a little better.
@@AllThingsOnePlace tks you !
the only way i can see connecting the charger to wifi is for the controls that maybe aren’t possible with just the app. how would you control the remote charging without the charger being connected to wifi?
Well it can time it also, but yeah, Bluetooth is pretty limited. But why do you need to charge your device when you aren’t home?
Been too long since my last allthingsoneplace fix
Yeah, I can't believe it took me three weeks to get this thing together.
Thank you for the reviews, please review UGREEN Nexode Power Bank 🙂
Yeah, I haven't done a power bank in a bit.
What's the recommendation for 150w or lower?
Right now, Anker A2343 for a compact charger. The Baseus Gan3 100W desktop is still my home use charger for lots of things though, it's certainly got some quality control issues though.
this is something i've been looking for years now, the only thing missing from this is data connections. i'd pay for this if they removed the account creation for data connections
Yeah, I don't understand. Why does my power adapter app need access to my photos, contacts, and web history?
What is the best charger to use for the Anker solix c300dc?
The AC one has charging built in. The DC one, can use two 140W charging bricks at once for 280W maximum charging speed. If you wanted to stay Anker I'd probably get the 240W charger from last year. IT would keep the efficiency high. If it only gets pushed to 140 watts I'd expect it to last decently long as well.
Hey not sure if I grabbed how much it consume when disabled and used only as a clock. Is it a lot?
If you keep any part enabled it's about a watt. It's pretty constant around that power level.
Can you try the monoprice 45w gan cube charger? No videos online and it's been out for a year
It will be a long while before or if that would make it, but it's on the list.
FYI the affiliate link for the 250W takes you to a different product.
Thanks, yeah, they change them out once in a while, I'll get it updated. Anyways, I should just change them all for the generic link and have people search for the thing they want to prevent link rot issues.
@@AllThingsOnePlace That'll work better. Mind checking my edited comment for a recommendation please!
@@AllThingsOnePlace What's your recommendation for a >65 W (up to 200W) that's a bang for the buck and doesn't renegotiate when plugging in more devices? I hate having the R Pi restart or Mac in Clamshell mode disconnect and lock every time I plug in devices.
EST CE QUE FONCTIONNE LA SUPER FAST CHARGING 2.0 45W PPS (POUR LE MODEL 250W) ?? MERCI
Yes, it does 45w PPS charging.
Thanks
Wow! Thank you so much!
Is there a lithium battery pack out there that can supply power to say 2-4 Surface Pro 9 tablets for example, at 65 watts?
The Zmi no20, it's expensive but should run 2 tablets for a reasonable while. It depends on usage and needs. At full tilt it'll be flat in under an hour. The larger power stations would hold up for longer, but depends on whether you want a luggable or a bag size power bank.
On the 200W charger can it support Samsung Super Fast Charging 2.0 on multiple devices?
Yes.
Will it be a problem if I leave the 100w anker prime charger at full load for an extended period of time?
Just bought this since I had a 65w baseus multiports charger that died on me after less than a year
Yeah they really aren’t made for full load. If you want to run 100 watts all the time I’d actually get the 200w charger.
Amazing video thanks
You're welcome.
Yikes, thanks for this review, I was just about to buy this thing but it requires an internet tether? I am so sick of internet tethered devices that end up going unsupported and end up useless. Definitely a solid N-O on buying this (250w unit)
Yeah, only if you want all the features does it need to be internet tethered, I think that makes it worse.
So torn between Anker 200W and the Satechi 165W
Yeah. Each certainly has its merits. The anker is much more modern in terms of the usb end.
does the ports reset every time a new device is connected or disconnected?
It is a little smarter in that it will wait for power to be drawn before resetting sometimes, but then yes, it will reset.
@@AllThingsOnePlace thanks for the answer. in that case i will buy an Anker with independent ports for 112W. with less power per port but no reset
i want to power 4x raspberry pi. Is it a good choice for this case?
It'll do it, it's a bad choice.
Why do expensive high charging stations like this don't have a grounding line ?
It doesn't need to be.
Wait, did I get this right - the user can't use all the features unless it's connected to a wifi? I mean all those extras except 30s real-time power curve seem useless from my perspective
Yes
Skip indeed. Thanks for saving me my time and sanity!
No problem.
which is the best powerbank you have tested?
High wattage. Zmi. Lower wattage 15k iniu. There’s many factors though so some are better at various things.
I like the design of the 250w power supply. And I would like to have it in clock mode mostly. But seeing it needs the app just to do that? Pass. I don't need a charger to collect data just to be a clock. It already seems to have that function so there is no reason it needs an app just for that.
Yeah. It collects data just to be a clock and requires a wifi connection
Can you recommend a 140w gan charger ??
It's difficult because they all seem to have early failure rates. The apple one seems okay but it's limited in it's own way.
@@AllThingsOnePlace how about 100watts bro. Recommend one please i want the charger to have more on Lifespan..
I have Asus G14 2024 RTX 4070. Can i game with this plugged in without draining battery? The charger that i left at the hotel had 240W.
If it was a barrel plug brick, these will not make up for that power level. The laptop most likely will only be able to draw 100W on one USB port.
I don't want a closed app that the vendor is gonna remove from the store in 2 years.
I want a well documented REST API or similar. Open source app is a bonus.
And no way that thing is getting internet access!
what is the length of the power cord
5 feet or 1.5 meters