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This is a great quote, however, do not misunderstand the book, while the protagonist is an interesting character, he is not to be endorsed, it is a sort of warning or downside of Absurdism by Albert Camus.
I often times find myself alone. I'm autistic, so I can't dance to the tune of other people as much as I'd like. Not that I haven't tried, mind you, it's just that I am incapable of picking up social queues or reading body language. There was one time a coworker flirted with me for a few weeks and implied heavily she wanted to go out with me, but I never knew. Someone had to tell me after the fact. To me it's like most of the world is speaking in riddles, but I can only hear the literal words they say. Not that I want to be seen as a victim though. My condition is a blessing and a curse, and it's up to me to make the most of it.
Have you heard of the double empathy problem? Basically says that, it's not that a social deficit is inherent to autism, but appears that way, because most of our interactions are with allistic people, and our ways of communication are vastly different, akin of someone trying to comunicate speaking Spanish in China. What I'm trying to say is, find other autistic people that you can relate to, as you use the same communication style, or language, if we follow the analogy. I know it can be hard, there aren't that many of us, but for the first time in three decades of my life I can say I have a true friend. I am no longer alone. Have hope
If she knew enough about you to decide with a good judgement that she actually likes you, she would also have known that she should have told her intentions directly to you. Therefore, you can dismiss calmly her non sense, which is sadly very common in women.
The rate you upload is incredible. I have been working through your catalogue, love your oration style. You bring enthusiasm to Philosophy which is palpable and makes it so much more engaging. Don't burn yourself out though! We will still be here, don't worry.
Haha! Thank you! To be honest I try to take breaks but every time I do I end up reading something and then I want to write something about it and before you know it I’m making another video haha!
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 Awesome to hear, it's working very well evidently. Just wanted to say I loved your podcast with Alex, hope you guys do some more content in the future :)
I have never seen a better unintentional advertisement for a novel than this. Thank you Joe, I will now be ordering The Stranger and reading it for myself.
I'm starting to see a pattern suggested by philosophy and embraced by modern psychology: pursue authenticity and reject conformity. It seems that we are trapped in a web of toxic relationships with narcissists. Maybe that's why philosophers are executed. They inspire rebellion. Don't settle. Break the cycle. Rebel.
Yup. Best part is the stranger sounds a lot like a legit Psycopath. Not a Malignant Narcissist so a sadistic psycho. All psychopathy is, is a blank slate human. Incapable of lots of things because of brain deficits, so exploring the world and moving through it is very challenging. Lacking internal drives and not really understanding the emotional reasoning for caring about certain rituals turns a lot of people off. Lots of what causes bad behaviour is, bad environment, projection from others, wierd dynamics between people being thrust into us (like triangulation from women lmao like in the stranger is a bad one) and even the whole predatory thing is more so a means of survival and getting needs met in a last ditch effort or after severe resentment builds. We breaking the cycles. Going to therapy. Getting meds. Trying to just understand people will be my goal going forward. I've lacked that from most people. It's very isolating. Not for my own benefit, but for the benefit of the people that need someone in this very shaming and judgemental cold world, I've already been destroyed, so there's no point in putting that energy back out there. Appreciate this one 🖤
Damn the timing was perfect, I really need this because i have a presentation at school and it's about this exact book. Now I'll look really smart and not have to read the second part of the thing today. Thank you bro
Lost my mom Friday, I’m 37, and some of the lessons I’ve learned from your videos/lectures, along with others, have helped me find the inner strength to be the strong and stoic one this week and that in turn is comforting others. So your passion and work is having real world effects out here brotha. If we could get the world to think about the topics you cover, we maybe could have a calmer and more compassionate world, instead of whatever this is we find ourselves in.
Just read this one recently. Honestly it was just such an unsettling read, Mersault feels so empty and separate from humanity, and he almost reminded me of rhe protagonist in "The Wasp Factory"
I fine comfort in the meaninglessness of the universe too. So many people don't see it but I do. Meaninglessness means that sure there is not a deity or entity that ultimately cares about you, but that also just makes connecting to others all the more important right? AFter all we're future corpses, no matter how you slice it. And if you can't do that, because of the absurdity of others,like our protagonist and Camu himself, that is also fine. Take comfort in the fact the universe doesn't care either way what happens. Why should you if others can't see that? Many may see this as cruel prospect, but I see it as liberative. No expectation can possibly be forced on you objectively, because it doesn't matter. Reality is the true sandbox rpg game.
Your work here is always marvelous. Straight to the point, intelligent, well made. It's great to see when you upload a new video, and I always feel like I learn a lot from your content. Truly, thank you.
Found your channel 2 months ago thanks to RUclips recommendations, since then I'm addicted to your videos, keep up the great work bro, wish you all the best in this universe!
Being alienated by the absurd and pointlessness shows a sign of mental weakness. To understand everything has no value and still value the world around takes a lot more inner strength.
PostScript Addendum; Weakness according to this definition is also NOT a flaw of personal morality or unmet personal desire. No one inherently wants to perpetuate misery. To pretend otherwise is more harmful than helpful.
I agree partly. Valuing something means we are in debt to or responsible for it. You value your health, like 99% of us do? Well how come were are not so healthy. Because we value some things more. After all, being indifferent does not mean you do not value something but atleast the outcome of your actions shows you did not. What I am saying, is that just like nihilism, also indifference has a map to follow and thus values. Well, thus he just values some things more. Giving ultimate value to everything is impossible from physical standpoint as we are not omnipotent, so giving any value is a strength. I say we can demand (and do demand) some core values from other people as not giving value can go to such absurd situations when human interactions do occur.
@@someonesomeone25 you could be sent to the loony bin after being misdiagnosed and "treated" there as an example. In all seriousness it depends on the severity and social support, i wouldn't have a clue on how to deal with someone with Aspergers for example (if it's even properly considered part of the spectrum), neither am i a psychologist to know enough, so take it with a grain of salt, but managing stress, especially the one social interaction brings, would be my first guess.
I think the indifference Mersault demonstrates can be somewhat attributed to the fact that Camus' inspiration was based on an autistic friend rather than shades of indifference per se.
I mean, in my case that doesn't cause indifference, but being overly zealous of moral dogma. I mean, most people will be kind of supportive of human rights, but then will be perfectly fine when society neglects or directly violates someones rights if they're the "wrong kind" of person, like criminals, homeless people, addicts, immigrants who enter illegally, or even legally, political opponents, sexual minorities, some races, some cultures, some religions, you name it. They call it mental rigidity, I call it consistency. Maybe some of them are horrible human beings, but human nonetheless
Its interesting how closely this sense of apathy aligns with the symptoms of Psychopathy. In many ways, there are many people who are literally indifferent to the world around them...
@@mayankgaikwad189 this isnt entirely true. Yeah they do, but its because you realistically cant ever get your needs met. Its always a power play to barely make a foot in the door. You observe how much easier people have it with money, because of power dynamics. If you are doomed to that, and realize it young, you become very callous and remorsless, to get needs met. Some psychopaths are a lot more pro social. But they have a lot of lacking needs being met and are constantly confused why people treat them so badly. Some choose avoidance and complete isolation from adapting a very good theory of mind, and not wanting to hurt others. If you dont want to be hurt in a certain way, you dont do it to others, you adapt lesss manipulation and try to be a better person in society eyes. But in a society with Narcissistic morality flourshing everywhere, its hard to tell what the limits should be for your own behaviour. You dont need reflexive empathy or pro social emotions, just observation over a longer period and probably a slightly higher IQ to make these observations.
There are quite few instances in my life recently which has made me wondered if a God exists, this just so happens to be one of them. I have had many sleepless nights in recent memory as i am unable to close my eyes due to a nagging feeling that makes me think i am all alone in this universe. Even a few hours ago, that's what i literally felt in my classroom surrounded by 20 people yet feeling a connection to no one. BUT you just posted a video on this exact topic the moment i needed it! If there exists a God, this sure is a gift from him!
Yes this creator does exist. Find him where he hides in plain sight, and that locus is within you. The source, the force, the great spirit, the holy spirit can only be found inside. It can never be realized using the five senses. "God is a spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit..." "The Kingdom of God is within you."
I’m a newcomer to your channel, and I’m very glad I am. :) Your content has been some of the meaningful and engaging I’ve found regarding philosophical works & debates. Keep it up!
What if Mersault was meant to be understood as a failed man who couldn't engage with anything amd create no meaning either for himself or for the people around him instead of a lonely and understood hero? Camus himself came to terms with his philosophy and engaged in things that he deemed worthy such as resilience, theatre or literature
I read this book as it was originally written in French just to have some reading language study material. Because I didn’t read it in my native language, I missed a lot of the nuances of the text. This video helped me better understand this complicated work while learning about something that hasn’t typically been an interest of mine-philosophy! very well made video😊
You are definitely one of the best and talented and interesting RUclipsrs making phenomenal content that expands the mind, I just subved to you a little while ago and everybody who I've seen of yours is phenomenal. Please keep up the great work 👊
Another incredibly thought inducing video! Love seeing your channel grow and hearing your different takes on pieces you have covered before :). My nan gave me this book the other week which I find almost uncanny now you’ve brought this out! Keep up the great work
Much appreciation from Pakistan! I read 'The Stranger' a few months ago, and ironically enough was completely indifferent to it.Your video started playing unintentionally today and as always I was engrossed.This is a fantastic take on something i was not only wondering about since some days but experiencing as I proceeded further into my late teens... As for what you've said aptly at 19:26 it is spot on with my own personal experiences!!!It is far easier to imagine we are tafrgets or victims of fate or the universe than to imagine that simply...we are nothing of any importance to these forces at all. Same as with people ; the idea that our existence means nothing to anyone or anything is terrifying and a mental anguish like no other .Perhaps,it is the "will to power "as Nietzsche calls it or our own ego's defences breaking at the notion of our self being nothing important. It surely harms your self importance and esteem when realized organically! Then,it also seems to lead onto a further,more painful realization,that if nothing cares abojt our existence that our existence itself is futile or ineffectual. For to effect something one must have power over some aspects of it,be of some consideration in the first place.I'd even go as far as to say that we experience the Absurd when much like (yet much more mundanely) Kafka,we are faced with circumstances,society or systems that donot acknowledge our individual existence,as they're indifferent to it.
If we live our lives by this indifference, it becomes harder to love. For dostoevsky, everything settles down when you can love but after reading camus, i wonder if we can still love and have that much excitement if we aren't concerned by most matters
I think we should just because we can i mean you can love with full passion with the indifference that the love won't last I think the point Camus wants to make is that the absurdity is inevitable so let it be live your life and find gratefulness and meaning in your actions not the life or the world.
Ive come to the realisation now that me and most people would rather be hated by people than face their indifference. There is nothing worse than being a nobody ubiquitously to everyone that supposedly matters. At least when you are hated you are of some significance to an individual or individuals that you have made a visceral emotoonal impact on them in some way, but when you are treated with complete apathy and indifference, you have been given no fuel to feel any sort of love or significance, and I think in term that then breeds hate in those who feel the constant indifference from those they wish felt the contrary towards them.
Last year in april I attended the funeral of my uncle who died of cancer. I sat in the front row next to his coffin and while my family and his friends were crying… I couldn’t force myself to give a single shit about this situation. Maybe even felt slightly amused. Why ? Because while others may knew him as an dependable and hardworking man, I received the other side of his character. The always angry, dissatisfied and prickly dickhead who found it easy and quite possibly stress relieving to lash out at me when given a chance. Thus while being looked up with a scorn from other members of my family, I simply sat there thinking to myself - „Even though they know about his attitude towards me, they still expect me to shed a tear upon his grave ? Why won’t they take MY feelings into consideration ?” And that’s when it hit me. I was all alone with these feelings of mine and while yearning for the understanding from others, I did not took into consideration to shift my point of view of the whole situation. While yes, my feelings were real and true I did not bother to understand what others might felt, thus making the false assumption that they all should have seen him in a way as I did. Once again the question is - why ? Why should they bother ? I’m not the main character of this story so why should they care ? My feelings are mine only and as such I am bound to be left with them for the rest of my life. No one shall ever know how it feels to be me, nor will I ever know how it feels to be you. We are all alone with our feelings and emotions in this world. We can share them, but we can’t feel them in the same way.
I think that's a normal reaction to family members that you're alienated from. I was the black sheep of my family, and although I've been to several funerals for people in my extended family, I never really felt anything at any of them. I never knew any of them, because they never wanted to know me. For a while I thought I was a sociopath or something, but forming connections with people outside of my family showed me that I actually would be incredibly devastated to lose a person that I was close to (in fact, having nobody gave me abandonment issues). I just had no idea what feeling close to somebody felt like, because nobody in my family could provide an example. It blew my mind later in life to find out that some people have families that they are excited to spend time with, the way you'd be excited to hang out with a friend. I figured "family" just meant people you were obligated to spend an afternoon with when the calendar says it's a holiday. This same deprivation of emotional intimacy also led me down that same thought process of "when is it my turn to have my feelings considered?" And yes, unfortunately the answer is "never," especially as a man. Best I can do is tailor my environment to only include people that boost my mental health as much as possible, and cut out the people that make me feel invalidated.
@@LorddOfTheCastle I salute to you, good Sir 🫡 Even though we might be alone in our own little worlds, it’s always comforting to know that we all share the same human emotions. God bless you and may the future teach us to go beyond pain and sorrow. We are way better than this.
I remember reading this book during high school for a reading assignment a couple of years back. Though I was only 15 and knew little to nothing about philosophy, I thouroughly enjoyed this book. Though I was looking through this book through a slightly different lens (bc I had a very bare-bones definition in my head as to what existentialism and absurdism was at the time), I still thought the book was really insightful and standout-ish compared to other books I normally read (fiction, fantasy/sci-fi, etc). I remember oddly liking the ending, where Mersault came to the conclusion of coming to terms with the meaninglessness/objectiveness of life and full on embracing it, but if u were to ask me about the rest of the book in a deeper manner i wouldn't be able to answer that for you at the time. But then came the work and assignments following the reading and it just completely threw Camus' message out the window. The next month following the conclusion of the book were analyses of Mersault, why he behaved this way, why he was so indifferent and objective and cold towards everything, trying to come up with some meaningful explanation to all of this. In a socratic seminar I was in, the rest of the class came to the conclusion that Mersualt is just flat out weird and a straight up sociopath. And another assignment consisted of coming up with a potential traumatic childhood backstory that could serve as an explanation to Mersault's strangeness. No one else enjoyed the book because they all thought Meursault was weird and unrelatable. Of course, for the sake of my grades, I had to follow along with the workload but none of the assignments I had to do ever sat right with me however, despite not fully understanding Camus' depth of absurdism - but with the help of this video I understand now. Not only did my teacher completely miss the message but she ran away with it in the complete opposite direction. It was never about any deeper meaning or explanation as to why Mersault behaved that way, rather the complete opposite, and how it effects everyone else in the story. I'm not really sure where I'm going with this little anecdote of mine but I think this story is simply so ironic that it's almost funny and worth sharing. I'm definitely going to reread this book now that I can understand it on a deeper level (and without the predispositions provided by the school curriculum) and I might even bother looking into Camus' other works after. Thank you for making this video, it really helped me answer some question's I've been holding onto for a while
Mersault was a psychopath. The worst thing is many men finds it manly. Anger, agression, envy...are emotions and I find so many people, especially men, who are so disdainful and scare about emotions when even animals have emotions. I don't see the point in any human unable to feel emotions...or empathy. They are not humans to me. They are intra-species predators.
If your philosophy cannot deflect the arguments of absurdism with an argument for the nature of humanity and its purpose, I’m not so sure you have a philosophy at all. Camus is brilliantly gifted at forcing people to account for that. You summarized The Stranger brilliantly, my dude.
Finally a video on The Stranger!! I was hoping to see your take on it and I loved it, this helped me settle down some of the ideas I have around it. I found this book on a very difficult time in my life (as the last five years have been) and grief had slowly turned me onto the idea of things truly feeling absurd. I feel like I've been mimmicking what life is supposed to be like since I read this book, with the fear of feeling that like Mersault, my questioning might bring more trouble than joy and it might make people around me put more distance between us. It just feels wrong to know pain and to know it's inflicted on others, but still feel no strong reaction towards it too. Today a new idea came up- perhaps things are absurd, but seeing comfort on it instead of straight out allienation might be the way to go. Maybe I can go through life, and see blue skyes and storms alike, and maybe once things are done I'll die knowing I still experienced everything on it's truest form, without bias or opinions to sway me one way or another onto what is happening in front of me. Perhaps this way too, pain and grief might not be as heavy.
As a fellow Camus enjoyer, I’d love to hear about your reading of Samuel Beckett! In many ways, although he is notoriously enigmatic as a thinker, I feel Beckett to be a successor to Camus’ absurdism, accepting absurdity but further stripping away Camus’ ideas of rebelling against it and ultimately finding happiness. I think Beckett would imagine Sisyphus as simply “going on” :D
I can see heavy parallels of someone that has diagnosed psychopathy. How some psychopathic killers, in their confessions, talk about how they felt no different at all after they committed murder. Almost as if they feel no rush or adrenaline at all, just indifference.
I haven’t read the novel but your interpretation of it makes me think that’s how the world would seem to someone who doesn’t experience conscience or deep emotions or any emotions at all, they would be left with a strictly academic or rational view, I suppose this highlights how important a role emotions play in the life of humans
I didn't take Mearsault as unemotional, just depressed. It reminded me a lot of my own experiences with dissociation. When you're dissociating it's like you're in shock after a tragedy and emotionally numb. But you're numb because there's an underlying boiling intensity that you are unable to handle. It always confuses me when people think of dissociation as lacking emotion. To me, dissociation is an extremely strong and terrifying feeling.
@@mollystewart-gallus537 but hasn’t the character been this way his whole life? This is normal for him, it’s not like he’s disassociating from himself if this is how he’s always been, unless I missed where he experienced some trauma or something, I e never read the novel so I’m just going on the channel’s interpretation
@@camfella647 Unfortunately, depression and isolation is pretty regular for many people, especially neurodivergent people. Could be early childhood trauma or other issues. So depression isn't necessarily like a temporary trauma after a parent's death or something like that. This is reading way into the book too much but the narrator may have suffered emotional neglect and may not like his mother. But there are any number of reasons why depression and dissociation could be pretty normal for a person.
@@mollystewart-gallus537I agree,I've never felt this indifference as much as when I was in a very depressed state,and as I wrote in my journal, "The real torments,the real terrors are whem we cannot feel anything.Safe from pain,yes,but also from joy, from ecstasy. Moments when we can only look at life with half open eyes,disinterested and empty.They scare me. When life seems to find it in herself to whisper to you all your fears made real,your obsessions seen for what theyare,abd all your ugliness bared. As if that is the only thing about you that has ever existed....An empty, worthless facade made real only through your despicable mind." So the lack of emotion or feeling for any part of life ,can be the worst kind of pain,as you look only into the Absurd and are faced with no answers, only an emptiness
I think we need to remember _when_ this novel was written. The world was in the throes of being blown apart by the absurd in its most extreme expression. Without this context, it's hard to understand why Camus would create a character so unbelievable as the police interrogator (in real life, they're not flummoxed by psychopaths - they come across them regularly). Camus, his philosophy, and his writing were wrought in the crucible of WW2. This is not to dismiss your analysis. I think it's spot on and a great lens through which to look at our own times.
Ah thank you! And that's my favourite book! I am slowly writing a video on it but I think it will end up being like 3 hours long and will take months haha!
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 take your time!! I dont want to have to skip it because i haven't finished it yet (i already skipped two videos avoiding any kind of spoiler and personal interpretations) although i should finish it sooner than 3 months thats for sure
I heard some interesting things, and I'm not compelled to embrace them all. Maybe explore some of them, even when not embracing them. But thanks for the summary. Now I'm convinced I need something more in reading material. Also, I'm not connecting this book review to the title of the video. Perhaps one must first consider themself alone.
You, sir, are a genius! One of the things I could not yet understand is, why does he wishes a big crowed that hates him? Does that mean he still has a wish to leave a mark, or would that just be a proof to him that he is in peace with his life - by being unbothered with it?
“…or one of my good friend’s obsession with LEGO” I realize it’s silly to assume that all RUclipsrs know each other, but I hope so much that you were talking about Half Asleep Chris
"For all to be accomplished, for me to feel less lonely, all that remained to hope was that on the day of my execution there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should greet me with howls of execration." - The Stranger The last line always hits hard ...
Your takeaway from absurdism doesn’t have to be complete indifference. At least in my opinion, it’s the complete freedom to choose what to care about. If you choose not to care about anything, then go ahead. The universe doesn’t mind.
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I googled "the stranger" and got something much different... It's when you take your hand.... Well nevermind. suffice to say it wasn't a novel😂
@@IronWarriorMarine Be born in a middle class English family, go to private school, attend Oxford or Cambridge university.
I wish I could be friends with you.
"Those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music" - Nietzsche
This is a great quote, however, do not misunderstand the book, while the protagonist is an interesting character, he is not to be endorsed, it is a sort of warning or downside of Absurdism by Albert Camus.
Meursault neither dances nor hears music, he watches from the sideline, not interacting and not judging.
@@tunamayo3587 A quiet and peaceful excistence
Anyway the quote it's beautiful ❤
Bro no offence but did nietzche really say it ??
there is only one thing worse than being alone. Finding someone who makes loneliness disapear, only to lose that someone
Yeah currently dealing with this right now
@@liamwebster425sorry bout that
Happened to me last year. Felt like shit for 6 months. Rescued a kitten last February. Felt better. I'll do anything for this cat.
@@cabbage_catGood one bro. Enjoy the times you have together. Life its rough!
@@JoaoVictor-rg5ix thanks mate, I hope you're doing good
Albert Camus might just be one of the most handsome philosophers ever
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LITERALLY girl i have a crush on him😭😭😭😭😭
man's majestic
@@leonscottkennedyluvr the way he talks and his smoking and his face 😍🩷.. and his work!!!! omg i fall more in love the more i read his works
Camus aint got nothing on Nozick
I clicked on this video because of the sun.
HAHAHAHHAAHAHHA
But I kept watching because of the sun.
What sun? Please explain
@@redsea3382in the book he says in the courts that he killed a man because of the sun
@@menace2society759 ohh thanks for explaining man
I often times find myself alone. I'm autistic, so I can't dance to the tune of other people as much as I'd like. Not that I haven't tried, mind you, it's just that I am incapable of picking up social queues or reading body language. There was one time a coworker flirted with me for a few weeks and implied heavily she wanted to go out with me, but I never knew. Someone had to tell me after the fact. To me it's like most of the world is speaking in riddles, but I can only hear the literal words they say. Not that I want to be seen as a victim though. My condition is a blessing and a curse, and it's up to me to make the most of it.
Solidarity
Have you heard of the double empathy problem? Basically says that, it's not that a social deficit is inherent to autism, but appears that way, because most of our interactions are with allistic people, and our ways of communication are vastly different, akin of someone trying to comunicate speaking Spanish in China. What I'm trying to say is, find other autistic people that you can relate to, as you use the same communication style, or language, if we follow the analogy. I know it can be hard, there aren't that many of us, but for the first time in three decades of my life I can say I have a true friend. I am no longer alone. Have hope
I also found solace in the book as an autistic person. Felt like a protagonist I could relate to in ways
@@amyscarlett5502we need an app for this
If she knew enough about you to decide with a good judgement that she actually likes you, she would also have known that she should have told her intentions directly to you. Therefore, you can dismiss calmly her non sense, which is sadly very common in women.
The rate you upload is incredible. I have been working through your catalogue, love your oration style. You bring enthusiasm to Philosophy which is palpable and makes it so much more engaging. Don't burn yourself out though! We will still be here, don't worry.
Haha! Thank you! To be honest I try to take breaks but every time I do I end up reading something and then I want to write something about it and before you know it I’m making another video haha!
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 Awesome to hear, it's working very well evidently. Just wanted to say I loved your podcast with Alex, hope you guys do some more content in the future :)
There's a podcast too?
@@lolisimon2933 Podcast he did with Alex O'Connor, another Philosophy RUclipsr. It's about Nihilism, it's a really great watch.
This video dropped at a strangely personal time... it was only a few minutes ago that I was thinking about this very same thing.
Ah I hope it helps
I have never seen a better unintentional advertisement for a novel than this. Thank you Joe, I will now be ordering The Stranger and reading it for myself.
I'm starting to see a pattern suggested by philosophy and embraced by modern psychology: pursue authenticity and reject conformity. It seems that we are trapped in a web of toxic relationships with narcissists. Maybe that's why philosophers are executed. They inspire rebellion. Don't settle. Break the cycle. Rebel.
Yup.
Best part is the stranger sounds a lot like a legit Psycopath. Not a Malignant Narcissist so a sadistic psycho.
All psychopathy is, is a blank slate human. Incapable of lots of things because of brain deficits, so exploring the world and moving through it is very challenging. Lacking internal drives and not really understanding the emotional reasoning for caring about certain rituals turns a lot of people off.
Lots of what causes bad behaviour is, bad environment, projection from others, wierd dynamics between people being thrust into us (like triangulation from women lmao like in the stranger is a bad one) and even the whole predatory thing is more so a means of survival and getting needs met in a last ditch effort or after severe resentment builds.
We breaking the cycles. Going to therapy. Getting meds. Trying to just understand people will be my goal going forward. I've lacked that from most people. It's very isolating.
Not for my own benefit, but for the benefit of the people that need someone in this very shaming and judgemental cold world, I've already been destroyed, so there's no point in putting that energy back out there. Appreciate this one 🖤
@@DevoidVoidi think this is beautiful
Damn the timing was perfect, I really need this because i have a presentation at school and it's about this exact book. Now I'll look really smart and not have to read the second part of the thing today.
Thank you bro
Haha! I hope it helps! Though I do think you will enjoy the other half of the book as well :)
“Read less books, watch more youtube” - Joe from unsollicited advice
Lost my mom Friday, I’m 37, and some of the lessons I’ve learned from your videos/lectures, along with others, have helped me find the inner strength to be the strong and stoic one this week and that in turn is comforting others. So your passion and work is having real world effects out here brotha. If we could get the world to think about the topics you cover, we maybe could have a calmer and more compassionate world, instead of whatever this is we find ourselves in.
Or was it Thursday?
I am sorry for your loss though
Sorry for your loss.
@@TheJoshestWhite Not a very appropriate joke
@@ThePond135 no it’s all good, thanks for standing up in a way for a complete stranger. But humor can be good, maybe everything was last thur right?
@@TheJoshestWhite thank you
I'm schizoid, and this novel ilustrates how i feel about everything
Just read this one recently. Honestly it was just such an unsettling read, Mersault feels so empty and separate from humanity, and he almost reminded me of rhe protagonist in "The Wasp Factory"
I fine comfort in the meaninglessness of the universe too. So many people don't see it but I do. Meaninglessness means that sure there is not a deity or entity that ultimately cares about you, but that also just makes connecting to others all the more important right? AFter all we're future corpses, no matter how you slice it. And if you can't do that, because of the absurdity of others,like our protagonist and Camu himself, that is also fine. Take comfort in the fact the universe doesn't care either way what happens. Why should you if others can't see that? Many may see this as cruel prospect, but I see it as liberative. No expectation can possibly be forced on you objectively, because it doesn't matter. Reality is the true sandbox rpg game.
Your work here is always marvelous. Straight to the point, intelligent, well made. It's great to see when you upload a new video, and I always feel like I learn a lot from your content. Truly, thank you.
finally a vid bout Camus! Thank u :)
Haha! He is a cracking thinker!
Found your channel 2 months ago thanks to RUclips recommendations, since then I'm addicted to your videos, keep up the great work bro, wish you all the best in this universe!
Philosophy is the main thing to convince and fool yourself while life has its way with you.
Philosophy is a voluntary living among ice and high mountains!
Haha! Or descending to ascend
Being alienated by the absurd and pointlessness shows a sign of mental weakness.
To understand everything has no value and still value the world around takes a lot more inner strength.
PostScript Addendum;
Weakness according to this definition is also NOT a flaw of personal morality or unmet personal desire.
No one inherently wants to perpetuate misery. To pretend otherwise is more harmful than helpful.
I agree partly.
Valuing something means we are in debt to or responsible for it.
You value your health, like 99% of us do? Well how come were are not so healthy. Because we value some things more.
After all, being indifferent does not mean you do not value something but atleast the outcome of your actions shows you did not.
What I am saying, is that just like nihilism, also indifference has a map to follow and thus values. Well, thus he just values some things more.
Giving ultimate value to everything is impossible from physical standpoint as we are not omnipotent, so giving any value is a strength. I say we can demand (and do demand) some core values from other people as not giving value can go to such absurd situations when human interactions do occur.
Some people just arnt good painters…no wonder their life seems meaningless…their canvas is still blank
"Vanity, all under the sun is vanity."
Ah, Ecclesiastes, the only worthwhile book in the Bible.
"The multitude tighten its hold"
Autism and chronic emotional loneliness are both untreatable.
Yeah I’m a ghost.
Incurable, not untreatable, is the word you're looking for. Sorry you had to feel that way.
@@Yanramich Maybe, I'm not sure. How are they treated?
@@someonesomeone25 you could be sent to the loony bin after being misdiagnosed and "treated" there as an example.
In all seriousness it depends on the severity and social support, i wouldn't have a clue on how to deal with someone with Aspergers for example (if it's even properly considered part of the spectrum), neither am i a psychologist to know enough, so take it with a grain of salt, but managing stress, especially the one social interaction brings, would be my first guess.
'we are all strangers, just not to the same extent' thanks for another amazing video Joe, much love
Camus. My favorite writer of all time and for all eternity.
I think the indifference Mersault demonstrates can be somewhat attributed to the fact that Camus' inspiration was based on an autistic friend rather than shades of indifference per se.
There's a paper written about it www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5903843/
I mean, in my case that doesn't cause indifference, but being overly zealous of moral dogma. I mean, most people will be kind of supportive of human rights, but then will be perfectly fine when society neglects or directly violates someones rights if they're the "wrong kind" of person, like criminals, homeless people, addicts, immigrants who enter illegally, or even legally, political opponents, sexual minorities, some races, some cultures, some religions, you name it. They call it mental rigidity, I call it consistency. Maybe some of them are horrible human beings, but human nonetheless
Mersault is flat...he doesn't care about anyone, not even himself. He's not even able to feel fear for himself.
My Mom was the one who suggested that I read 'The Stranger' as a teenager.
I need to reread it.
Its interesting how closely this sense of apathy aligns with the symptoms of Psychopathy. In many ways, there are many people who are literally indifferent to the world around them...
Well psychopaths are actually care about their own happiness particularly power and more importantly are very good at acting sane
@@mayankgaikwad189 this isnt entirely true.
Yeah they do, but its because you realistically cant ever get your needs met. Its always a power play to barely make a foot in the door. You observe how much easier people have it with money, because of power dynamics.
If you are doomed to that, and realize it young, you become very callous and remorsless, to get needs met.
Some psychopaths are a lot more pro social. But they have a lot of lacking needs being met and are constantly confused why people treat them so badly.
Some choose avoidance and complete isolation from adapting a very good theory of mind, and not wanting to hurt others.
If you dont want to be hurt in a certain way, you dont do it to others, you adapt lesss manipulation and try to be a better person in society eyes.
But in a society with Narcissistic morality flourshing everywhere, its hard to tell what the limits should be for your own behaviour.
You dont need reflexive empathy or pro social emotions, just observation over a longer period and probably a slightly higher IQ to make these observations.
When I tell y'all I am BINGING these videos. New favorite RUclips account.
Hi joe, just wanted to say your videos are fantastic and it's crazy how you manage to upload so consistently, i really appreciate it.
My name is Marsel (same pronunciation) and I have never felt so attacked.
Your command of the English language and interpretation of The Stranger is extremely impressive. Very engaging. Thanks!
Especially as English isn't his first language
I appreciate the videos. It helps me self examine and take a sober step back and evaluate life. Smart man, amazing content ❤
There are quite few instances in my life recently which has made me wondered if a God exists, this just so happens to be one of them. I have had many sleepless nights in recent memory as i am unable to close my eyes due to a nagging feeling that makes me think i am all alone in this universe. Even a few hours ago, that's what i literally felt in my classroom surrounded by 20 people yet feeling a connection to no one. BUT you just posted a video on this exact topic the moment i needed it! If there exists a God, this sure is a gift from him!
Yes this creator does exist. Find him where he hides in plain sight, and that locus is within you. The source, the force, the great spirit, the holy spirit can only be found inside. It can never be realized using the five senses. "God is a spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit..."
"The Kingdom of God is within you."
I’m a newcomer to your channel, and I’m very glad I am. :)
Your content has been some of the meaningful and engaging I’ve found regarding philosophical works & debates. Keep it up!
Camus’s philosophy of the absurd saved my life.
What if Mersault was meant to be understood as a failed man who couldn't engage with anything amd create no meaning either for himself or for the people around him instead of a lonely and understood hero? Camus himself came to terms with his philosophy and engaged in things that he deemed worthy such as resilience, theatre or literature
It doesn't matter even if you're right
That’s the same conclusion I came to
He has a girlfriend dawg what do you mean no meaning for other people
Well, if you consider all of Camu's works and philosophy, it will be hard to reach this sort of conclusion.
I read this book as it was originally written in French just to have some reading language study material. Because I didn’t read it in my native language, I missed a lot of the nuances of the text. This video helped me better understand this complicated work while learning about something that hasn’t typically been an interest of mine-philosophy! very well made video😊
You are definitely one of the best and talented and interesting RUclipsrs making phenomenal content that expands the mind, I just subved to you a little while ago and everybody who I've seen of yours is phenomenal. Please keep up the great work 👊
Just praying that he stays like this and doesn't go insane like Destiny or that philosophy tube guy who turned into a chick.
Another incredibly thought inducing video! Love seeing your channel grow and hearing your different takes on pieces you have covered before :). My nan gave me this book the other week which I find almost uncanny now you’ve brought this out! Keep up the great work
My favorite channel
Thanks!
I just finished reading this earlier this week let’s go. These are awesome to watch after i finish a book
Much appreciation from Pakistan!
I read 'The Stranger' a few months ago, and ironically enough was completely indifferent to it.Your video started playing unintentionally today and as always I was engrossed.This is a fantastic take on something i was not only wondering about since some days but experiencing as I proceeded further into my late teens...
As for what you've said aptly at 19:26 it is spot on with my own personal experiences!!!It is far easier to imagine we are tafrgets or victims of fate or the universe than to imagine that simply...we are nothing of any importance to these forces at all. Same as with people ; the idea that our existence means nothing to anyone or anything is terrifying and a mental anguish like no other .Perhaps,it is the "will to power "as Nietzsche calls it or our own ego's defences breaking at the notion of our self being nothing important. It surely harms your self importance and esteem when realized organically! Then,it also seems to lead onto a further,more painful realization,that if nothing cares abojt our existence that our existence itself is futile or ineffectual.
For to effect something one must have power over some aspects of it,be of some consideration in the first place.I'd even go as far as to say that we experience the Absurd when much like (yet much more mundanely) Kafka,we are faced with circumstances,society or systems that donot acknowledge our individual existence,as they're indifferent to it.
If we live our lives by this indifference, it becomes harder to love. For dostoevsky, everything settles down when you can love but after reading camus, i wonder if we can still love and have that much excitement if we aren't concerned by most matters
I think we should just because we can i mean you can love with full passion with the indifference that the love won't last I think the point Camus wants to make is that the absurdity is inevitable so let it be live your life and find gratefulness and meaning in your actions not the life or the world.
Glad I found this channel
Ive come to the realisation now that me and most people would rather be hated by people than face their indifference. There is nothing worse than being a nobody ubiquitously to everyone that supposedly matters. At least when you are hated you are of some significance to an individual or individuals that you have made a visceral emotoonal impact on them in some way, but when you are treated with complete apathy and indifference, you have been given no fuel to feel any sort of love or significance, and I think in term that then breeds hate in those who feel the constant indifference from those they wish felt the contrary towards them.
Changing one's self to meet the quos of others isn't a good idea. Love and companionship are overrated
Last year in april I attended the funeral of my uncle who died of cancer. I sat in the front row next to his coffin and while my family and his friends were crying… I couldn’t force myself to give a single shit about this situation. Maybe even felt slightly amused.
Why ? Because while others may knew him as an dependable and hardworking man, I received the other side of his character. The always angry, dissatisfied and prickly dickhead who found it easy and quite possibly stress relieving to lash out at me when given a chance.
Thus while being looked up with a scorn from other members of my family, I simply sat there thinking to myself - „Even though they know about his attitude towards me, they still expect me to shed a tear upon his grave ? Why won’t they take MY feelings into consideration ?”
And that’s when it hit me. I was all alone with these feelings of mine and while yearning for the understanding from others, I did not took into consideration to shift my point of view of the whole situation.
While yes, my feelings were real and true I did not bother to understand what others might felt, thus making the false assumption that they all should have seen him in a way as I did.
Once again the question is - why ? Why should they bother ? I’m not the main character of this story so why should they care ? My feelings are mine only and as such I am bound to be left with them for the rest of my life. No one shall ever know how it feels to be me, nor will I ever know how it feels to be you.
We are all alone with our feelings and emotions in this world. We can share them, but we can’t feel them in the same way.
I think that's a normal reaction to family members that you're alienated from. I was the black sheep of my family, and although I've been to several funerals for people in my extended family, I never really felt anything at any of them. I never knew any of them, because they never wanted to know me. For a while I thought I was a sociopath or something, but forming connections with people outside of my family showed me that I actually would be incredibly devastated to lose a person that I was close to (in fact, having nobody gave me abandonment issues). I just had no idea what feeling close to somebody felt like, because nobody in my family could provide an example. It blew my mind later in life to find out that some people have families that they are excited to spend time with, the way you'd be excited to hang out with a friend. I figured "family" just meant people you were obligated to spend an afternoon with when the calendar says it's a holiday.
This same deprivation of emotional intimacy also led me down that same thought process of "when is it my turn to have my feelings considered?" And yes, unfortunately the answer is "never," especially as a man. Best I can do is tailor my environment to only include people that boost my mental health as much as possible, and cut out the people that make me feel invalidated.
@@LorddOfTheCastle I salute to you, good Sir 🫡 Even though we might be alone in our own little worlds, it’s always comforting to know that we all share the same human emotions. God bless you and may the future teach us to go beyond pain and sorrow. We are way better than this.
I remember reading this book during high school for a reading assignment a couple of years back. Though I was only 15 and knew little to nothing about philosophy, I thouroughly enjoyed this book. Though I was looking through this book through a slightly different lens (bc I had a very bare-bones definition in my head as to what existentialism and absurdism was at the time), I still thought the book was really insightful and standout-ish compared to other books I normally read (fiction, fantasy/sci-fi, etc). I remember oddly liking the ending, where Mersault came to the conclusion of coming to terms with the meaninglessness/objectiveness of life and full on embracing it, but if u were to ask me about the rest of the book in a deeper manner i wouldn't be able to answer that for you at the time. But then came the work and assignments following the reading and it just completely threw Camus' message out the window. The next month following the conclusion of the book were analyses of Mersault, why he behaved this way, why he was so indifferent and objective and cold towards everything, trying to come up with some meaningful explanation to all of this. In a socratic seminar I was in, the rest of the class came to the conclusion that Mersualt is just flat out weird and a straight up sociopath. And another assignment consisted of coming up with a potential traumatic childhood backstory that could serve as an explanation to Mersault's strangeness. No one else enjoyed the book because they all thought Meursault was weird and unrelatable.
Of course, for the sake of my grades, I had to follow along with the workload but none of the assignments I had to do ever sat right with me however, despite not fully understanding Camus' depth of absurdism - but with the help of this video I understand now. Not only did my teacher completely miss the message but she ran away with it in the complete opposite direction. It was never about any deeper meaning or explanation as to why Mersault behaved that way, rather the complete opposite, and how it effects everyone else in the story.
I'm not really sure where I'm going with this little anecdote of mine but I think this story is simply so ironic that it's almost funny and worth sharing. I'm definitely going to reread this book now that I can understand it on a deeper level (and without the predispositions provided by the school curriculum) and I might even bother looking into Camus' other works after. Thank you for making this video, it really helped me answer some question's I've been holding onto for a while
Mersault was a psychopath.
The worst thing is many men finds it manly. Anger, agression, envy...are emotions and I find so many people, especially men, who are so disdainful and scare about emotions when even animals have emotions.
I don't see the point in any human unable to feel emotions...or empathy. They are not humans to me. They are intra-species predators.
Keep trying to have a different favourite book but this one always takes the top spot
If your philosophy cannot deflect the arguments of absurdism with an argument for the nature of humanity and its purpose, I’m not so sure you have a philosophy at all.
Camus is brilliantly gifted at forcing people to account for that. You summarized The Stranger brilliantly, my dude.
Love your videos mate, always hella enlightening and they always open me up to new ways of thinking
Thank you! That is very kind!
Profound insights man, can't wait to read the novel. Another novel with the almost guillotine ending is Stendal's The Red and The Black.
Finally a video on The Stranger!! I was hoping to see your take on it and I loved it, this helped me settle down some of the ideas I have around it.
I found this book on a very difficult time in my life (as the last five years have been) and grief had slowly turned me onto the idea of things truly feeling absurd. I feel like I've been mimmicking what life is supposed to be like since I read this book, with the fear of feeling that like Mersault, my questioning might bring more trouble than joy and it might make people around me put more distance between us. It just feels wrong to know pain and to know it's inflicted on others, but still feel no strong reaction towards it too.
Today a new idea came up- perhaps things are absurd, but seeing comfort on it instead of straight out allienation might be the way to go. Maybe I can go through life, and see blue skyes and storms alike, and maybe once things are done I'll die knowing I still experienced everything on it's truest form, without bias or opinions to sway me one way or another onto what is happening in front of me. Perhaps this way too, pain and grief might not be as heavy.
Joe we need a video talking about your philosophical beliefs pleaseeeeeee
Yessss
10/10 would love this tooo
love it! thank you! I am going to read this book again, and kind of understand myself better as I do sometimes feel alienated from the world.
As a fellow Camus enjoyer, I’d love to hear about your reading of Samuel Beckett! In many ways, although he is notoriously enigmatic as a thinker, I feel Beckett to be a successor to Camus’ absurdism, accepting absurdity but further stripping away Camus’ ideas of rebelling against it and ultimately finding happiness. I think Beckett would imagine Sisyphus as simply “going on” :D
As waiting, rather.
I read this book recently, love having an analysis from you right after😊
Thank you! There is so much I didn't get to talk about, but I hope you like it
I read The Stranger last year in english, probably one of my favorite books of all time.
The truth is; We are never alone but we may convince ourselves or wish that we were alone.
I can see heavy parallels of someone that has diagnosed psychopathy. How some psychopathic killers, in their confessions, talk about how they felt no different at all after they committed murder. Almost as if they feel no rush or adrenaline at all, just indifference.
I was literally just thinking about these exact topics for the past few days! great video :D
I finished the book nearly a minute or two before you released this video, excellent summary and insight into the novel as always
I haven’t read the novel but your interpretation of it makes me think that’s how the world would seem to someone who doesn’t experience conscience or deep emotions or any emotions at all, they would be left with a strictly academic or rational view, I suppose this highlights how important a role emotions play in the life of humans
I didn't take Mearsault as unemotional, just depressed. It reminded me a lot of my own experiences with dissociation. When you're dissociating it's like you're in shock after a tragedy and emotionally numb. But you're numb because there's an underlying boiling intensity that you are unable to handle. It always confuses me when people think of dissociation as lacking emotion. To me, dissociation is an extremely strong and terrifying feeling.
@@mollystewart-gallus537 but hasn’t the character been this way his whole life? This is normal for him, it’s not like he’s disassociating from himself if this is how he’s always been, unless I missed where he experienced some trauma or something, I e never read the novel so I’m just going on the channel’s interpretation
@@camfella647 Unfortunately, depression and isolation is pretty regular for many people, especially neurodivergent people. Could be early childhood trauma or other issues. So depression isn't necessarily like a temporary trauma after a parent's death or something like that. This is reading way into the book too much but the narrator may have suffered emotional neglect and may not like his mother. But there are any number of reasons why depression and dissociation could be pretty normal for a person.
@@camfella647depression can persist for someones entire life never really leaving them, just dissipating at moments.
@@mollystewart-gallus537I agree,I've never felt this indifference as much as when I was in a very depressed state,and as I wrote in my journal, "The real torments,the real terrors are whem we cannot feel anything.Safe from pain,yes,but also from joy, from ecstasy. Moments when we can only look at life with half open eyes,disinterested and empty.They scare me.
When life seems to find it in herself to whisper to you all your fears made real,your obsessions seen for what theyare,abd all your ugliness bared. As if that is the only thing about you that has ever existed....An empty, worthless facade made real only through your despicable mind."
So the lack of emotion or feeling for any part of life ,can be the worst kind of pain,as you look only into the Absurd and are faced with no answers, only an emptiness
This video inspired me to read the book. Will probably comment again after I finish it
"I don't belong in the world, that's what it is
Something separates me from other people
Everywhere I turn, there's something blocking my escape"
Hey brother I just felt that you have good orating skills
I think we need to remember _when_ this novel was written. The world was in the throes of being blown apart by the absurd in its most extreme expression. Without this context, it's hard to understand why Camus would create a character so unbelievable as the police interrogator (in real life, they're not flummoxed by psychopaths - they come across them regularly). Camus, his philosophy, and his writing were wrought in the crucible of WW2.
This is not to dismiss your analysis. I think it's spot on and a great lens through which to look at our own times.
Thanks!
15:06 I love your channel and your audience, I'm gonna comment on ALL your videos for years until I reach your level of subscribers.
I wish you would make a video on every book I've just read. Increíble videos sir, well done
Hi from Ecuador! Love your videos, just started to read the brothers karamazov i've been loving doestoyevsky so far!
Ah thank you! And that's my favourite book! I am slowly writing a video on it but I think it will end up being like 3 hours long and will take months haha!
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 please let it be as long as it wants to be.no more 20 min video, i want its length to put your c&p video to shame.
@@unsolicitedadvice9198 take your time!! I dont want to have to skip it because i haven't finished it yet (i already skipped two videos avoiding any kind of spoiler and personal interpretations) although i should finish it sooner than 3 months thats for sure
Perfect timing, just finished reading this. Great perspective
I'm interested in psychology and possibly philosophy, simply love this :)
Thank you for adding meaning to my life
I heard some interesting things, and I'm not compelled to embrace them all. Maybe explore some of them, even when not embracing them. But thanks for the summary. Now I'm convinced I need something more in reading material. Also, I'm not connecting this book review to the title of the video. Perhaps one must first consider themself alone.
This one was fascinating !
You, sir, are a genius!
One of the things I could not yet understand is, why does he wishes a big crowed that hates him? Does that mean he still has a wish to leave a mark, or would that just be a proof to him that he is in peace with his life - by being unbothered with it?
I am leaving this comment with commitment to watch this video again everytime someone likes it. I find content of this video really captivating. 🌸
“…or one of my good friend’s obsession with LEGO”
I realize it’s silly to assume that all RUclipsrs know each other, but I hope so much that you were talking about Half Asleep Chris
Another great video, been really enjoying the Absurdist content in particular, highly relevant
Really enjoying these Camus videos
I found peace within Merasault and his reaction to everything around him.
You posted at the perfect time...
Wow, this is fantastic! I must read the book!
Fourth + love your moving graphics that explains what the topic is
Thank you!
Would love to see you cover Proust one day! Great video as always!
Your explanation is brilliant
Your videos are so dense and i love it!
Great timing! I just read The Stranger.
Osamu Dazai's "No Longer human" talks about the same thing, it's classic Japanese literature, philosophical and depressing (very depressing).
Here for the accent. You provide a perfect shadowing material 😊
Oh god, no he doesn't
Dude , your voice is beautiful . Why don t you post the audio of your videos in podcast form on spotify?
Great analysis - Thank you!
"For all to be accomplished, for me to feel less lonely, all that remained to hope was that on the day of my execution there should be a huge crowd of spectators and that they should greet me with howls of execration." - The Stranger
The last line always hits hard ...
Your takeaway from absurdism doesn’t have to be complete indifference. At least in my opinion, it’s the complete freedom to choose what to care about. If you choose not to care about anything, then go ahead. The universe doesn’t mind.
love this video! I just finished the book yesterday and saw your video and I was like LET'S GOOO😂
I do love this channel. Thanks for the content.🙌
Thanks for uploading.
Loved this episode. When I read 'The Stranger' the first time, I couldn't put it down. I loved it to the point of tears.