The new LC especially was going to better without doubt and it bloody should be. But with around $45k to play with on the Patrol, a small super charger, engine chip tune, better wheel and tyre combo, nice off bullbar, 2" lift, good set of driving lights and you would still have around $25k to spend on free fuel and that's a lot of motoring.
Accounting for differences in fuel consumption between petrol and diesel (i.e. take the official midway of patrol's official urban and freeway and landcruiser's urban) fromr redbook data; Patrol is 17.3/100km (95), Landcruiser 11.3/100km (diesel). Using NSW fuel check, the current the average for 95 unleaded is 183.3, Diesel is 162. So the Patrol will be $13.4 more expensive to run per 100 km. If you do 10 years, 150,000 km it will be over $20k more, if you are a serous off-roader, you could do up to 250,000 or more i.e. the Patrol will cost $33k+ more in petrol. Assuming equal depreciation after servicing costs (if you compare the first perolTiL in 2015, midway redbook info suggests it lost $22.95k vs $26.95k value for the Toyota but then you have video noted extra servicing costs for the Patrol....) , given the Landcruiser's newer tech, better looks, sharper interior it is worth the extra dough (even at the 150k mark); the key reason to get the Patrol is for interior space, rear screens or you cant afford the initial very steep extra $45k.
@@Malc664 I was comparing these 2 in the test. But I agree the GX would be a far better comparable vehicle with the Y62. The GX is still bloody costly vehicle for a bog standard car and when you add on road costs, it will be close to 100k.
Bought a new Y62 a year ago. Hasn’t missed a beat. People calling them rubbish have no idea and need some way to justify the ridiculous amount they spent on a Toyota. Swapped exhaust so it sounds amazing. Springs in rear and tows a big van with ease. Fits a 34” tyre with no mods needed. Driven a 300 twice now as it’s the newer car and was seriously considering changing over, just cannot see where they get the extra $$ from. Yes interior better but not $40k better.
I like how you just gloss over the $40k+ price difference. For all the "1%" differences between the Patrol and Cruiser, you're happy with a 40% price difference ...
@666 Dual Sport ... and GXL has far fewer features than the Ti L. Why would you compare the top of the line Patrol (Ti L) with the entry level Cruiser (GXL)? And if you're that strapped for cash, the Ti Patrol is some $15k cheaper than the GXL .... and still has more features than the GXL.
Credibility gone on many fronts. "Mid corner kick back" WHAT!!! a load of garbage. A now they're re bagging the LC200? If the 200 was that bad, (as we all know it was,) why weren't they saying this for the last few years. All journos are running scared of Toyota. If they bag Toyota they won't get another car to test.
Make that up to 60g now, absolute madness. Anyone spending 150 plus on a vehicle that they are still comparing to a 100g patrol has rocks in their head. Unless you’re on 400g plus a year it’s a keeping up with the jones affair. In a few years time when we’re seeing next gen rivians hit our shores you won’t be able to give these things away. If I’m spendin 160+ on a cruiser I’d spend the extra and buy a 1500 limited. Anyone that’s worried about fuel on 100g plus cars makes me laugh - buy a dmax and tow a camper if you’re worried about fuel. The entire market is just going FN stupid. The fact they are comparing the latest offering from Toyota to an old platform is absolutely comical. Here’s a comparison - compare the 300 to a 1500 limited.
Wow!!! A Toyota add if I have ever seen one. Never drove an LC300 but have the Y62 5th Gen and I can tell you the Y62 is a dam good car and if you drive it normally it gets less the 12ltr per 100k and at 45k less you would be well in front with the Y62 and petrol is cheaper now days and much less maintenance. There is no cost crossover point the Y62 wins by a country mile all day long
@@larjkok1184 Over compensating are we LOL, I don't think you know what a Nissan Y62 looks like let alone drive one, but, it is your xtra 45k down the drain.......
@666 Dual Sport indeed. Here in Japan it doesn’t even cost $100k, it’s around 7.7M yen so roughly $95k including on roads. Gotta wonder why the Aus government still has these luxury car taxes when there isn’t even any local manufacturers in Aus anymore…
@@shirakabe here in the Philippines,the price tag for a LC 300 GR is roughly costing to 10 million pesos which matches the price of a base g class here also....it doubled the price from the old expensive LC 200......no wonder there are still 200’s here on the roads roaming than 300’s.
It's more like a $55k difference... the LC300 gets a heap more LCT etc and the Nissan can be discounted if you wait the same timeframe. ( have quotes with a $60K difference) That's just ridiculous. Harrop, new digital dash and centre console and $35K to play with !!
You get less on resale, you spend more on maintenance. Nissan is now notorious for major failure. I will go with cruiser anyday. You are spending more for cruiser means you you will get more when you sale it, and the depreciation rate is lower than a patrol.
@@RealNightFuryX the likes of you are probably into shady stuff. Always excited about selling the vehicle when it’s supposedly “reliable”. Some paradox right there.
@@hastensavoir7782 ‘shady stuff’, I am perplexed to understand how the other comment implies anything illegal. I think you must be either intoxicated or mentally challenged.
As someone who works on Toyota's day in day out, and only Toyota 4x4's, I will still buy the y62. Why? Because it's a proven platform, it doesn't break components just doing basic 4x4 work, and they drive better for longer.
@@Robert-cu9bm I know. I think you need to re read my comment. I think you have gotten confused by what I wrote. The components in the 62 are 11, going on 12 years old. They're not new, but substantially stronger.
People who complaining about the price…lc 300 is lifetime car it will work like new for next 10 years my self will sell my Lexus2008 everything working on to buy lc300 for next 10 years with high tach comfort and quality
@@mpandobanda787 in kuwait the patrol model 2010-2016 when u buy it you must buy extra fan from the outside market because its get heated super fast, sounds from decor etc become loud when you enter desert … and his parts more expensive f
Stupid people waste money on cars that have some tech over their competitors to which we all know is just not going to last at all. Patrol for me all day long. Old is better and reliable
@@ajferrer3082 interior features are overrated, are you going to hold the wheel and drive or play with touch screens, people rate interior just to show off to others, the hype dies quickly after that
Apparently Nissan have started work on the Y63, think I'll wait for that, also 8.9L on a large 4x4 is BS, maybe down hill with the wind behind ya, most dual cabs with real world results don't do much better than that, set of 31in tyres on my wife's dmax does 10 per 100 on the highway
I got 9 litres per 100 km on the Sydney Byron holiday in the Y62 , it shocked me better than manufacturers claims which is the opposite for the Toyota where real world is much worse. Wow what a Toyota advertising budget means to our business ….fake reviews ….
You can compare whatever model you like and the cruiser will come out on top and always has that’s why they hold their value so well, buy a cruiser and it will out live you
@@mannyvalenti475 no they don't always come out on top. Here in this test the Y62 is far better in just about levels, check it out.ruclips.net/video/VGO2R9ez0mw/видео.html
40K price difference is more than that in reality. If you don't spend and even put it in a decent investment, you get free fuel for the patrol and keep $40k. The price just obscene. But you know, I am all for free choice, and if people choose to waste money, good on em.
Don’t know why Australia still getting this old patrol instead of new one. The new Patrol Platinum edition is way better than this. It’s better than LC300. Interior is gorgeous and comes with 2 displays in centre. Check out Patrols in middle east and u’ll understand.
Lol. The 62 feels like a 10 year old car... It is. The 300 feels more stable under brakes ( because it nose dives compared with the 62) It seems the 300 is the winner not because it is better than the 62 but because it is better than the 200. Is it really 40% better across the board than the 62 to justify that price rise?
Maybe in your next video you can compare a LC 80 series against the Y62 and tell us how the dash in the 80 series seems dated in comparison. What a genius..
I have Nissan 2018 Armada (USA version of Patrol) i would take it any day over LC300. That 5.6 revs so quickly it's ridiculous. Towing 7k lb camper like it'snot there. I'm thinking of getting second one, because there is no other SUV that can match its performance for the price...
The other thing that pisses me off about these car makers is they just take the Australian buyer for granted and this goes for Toyota, but now Nissan. Why didn't Australia get the upgraded Nissan Patrol, to be charging that sort of money for this old design is just a plain rip off.
@@zoltrix7779 from what I understand, the patrol interior upgrade was only designed for left hand drive vehicles, still pathetic from such a large car maker.
@@Australiacalling As a conspiracy theorist, I think Nissan deliberately left it out so that could have another improvement for the Australian 2022 version.
It would be good to see a proper review done by someone that isnt biast and can review both vehicles open minded, Few things mentioned against the patrol are simply just not acurate, would be interested to see an un biast review
In my opinion, the LC300, which is the tad smaller then the LC200, is just far too small for the 3rd row and really should not have a 3rd row, just as tested here, and should be for all LC300 to be only 5 seats. On the patrol, the interior can be updated (with after market), but it does have a lot more space. I have driven a patrol, and it is a lot more comfortable then what he said, and you do not hear much from outside the 4b. The roads he drove on look to be excellent roads compared to roads here in Queensland, and both seem to look the same with ride comfort. Next time they do a compare like this, I hope they get someone that is nautural to any brand, not like this and only for toyota. For everyone, when looking for a 4b, test drive all the 4b's and choose the one the best suits you and the future plans you have.
Nissan patrol feels really old inside. Not too sure how the ride compares with the other models without the KDSS. KDSS plays a significant role in making the ride comfortable. All the Patrol models come with HBMC. Also, Info about the camera is incorrect. Camera- patrol also has 4 cameras. 360 degree view camera. Also another feature in the Patrol is the rearview mirror screen which actually gives you a very wide view of the rear side when driving. Would have been nice if it was in the Toyota too. LC 300 is definitely more modern looking inside. Not too sure what Nissan has on offer for Australia against LC 300. May be an updated Patrol?
As a grey nomad I am concerned with towing weights but more importantly payload of the vehicle. Both the patrol and the previous V8 cruiser had appalling payloads for vehicles of there size. Not once did you mention payload. There is only 2 of us in the vehicle so dont need all the seats. Being in our 60s don't need all the tech like apple car play, lane assist or anything else tech related. Don't want DPF or add blue and all the issues that go with that. Just want a comfortable affordable vehicle capable of towing 3.2T for up to 500,000 kms with few issues like sensors etc that strand you in the middle of nowhere with no chance of fixing it yourself.
Am hearing ya mate.. Im a diesel tech and the last thing I wanna do is fix my own car after work.. diesels dead in the passenger vehicle market anyway by 2025 euro 7 comes into play and you most likely won't see a diesel at a dealer, I myself will be getting on the petrol bandwagon as thermal efficiency is now almost as good as diesel but with way less consequences, no EGR, ad blue or DPFs.. for now anyway, prime time to buy a petrol, diesels were in there prime before 2007
Rubbish review. For me when I am towing my Basestation I need a good rear view camera so I can see what is behind my big boxy van before I change lanes. Mirrors don't cut it. The cruisers discotech screen simply gets in the way! And playing with touch screens while driving is highly questionable. No split tail gate either.
maybe Patrol is older and does not have all LandCruiser's features, but price difference compensates the lack of that stuff. and as for me, Patrol is more reasonable thing to purchase.
After watching this review and the posts I realised how cheap MuX is compared to this larger SUVs. The MuX can tow 3.5 t and it has pretty much same tech of LC300 and 7 seaters yet it is 40% of LC GR price.
I agree with your assessment, that in isolation, the Patrol is a very competent 4WD, but against the LC300, it definitely shows its age. After seeing the LC300's interior, the Patrol's interior looks prehistoric.
Unfortunately Nissan can only blame themselves as other markets get much better interiors while Nissan Australia get the extremely old interior. But for the price gap you can easily get a custom dashboard better camera systems and infotainment systems and still have pocket change to run the car for years compared to the cost of Toyota.
From all other media tests fuel consumption is nowhere near 8.9. It will be interesting when someone that’s not toyota bought does a load test fuel test.
Wow so expensive you would never dare to go off road. Just a glorified tow vehicle in my eyes. What happened to a basic large solid reliable 4wds with a price tag mums and dads can afford.
Thats called a ute based wagon, eg MU-X, Everest etc. Its just that people in the modern world have decided thats not good enough for them. People in the modern world arent honest about what they actually need.
Mmm , pretty one sided, he said at least twice “it feels like a 10-15 yo car” lmfao well hello … it is!! .. Taking nothing away from the cruiser very sweet vehicle … still for the price difference I could accessorise a patrol to my liking and still have money for fuel to travel round aus multiple times ,
Both of my dream cars being compared head to head. Obviously the TLC 300 series had to win. But i love the stature of the patrol with its NA 5.6l engine. Ironically the future me who will come back and read this would have bought both. Heck, why not!
no mention of the fact that the Nissan's dash is 10 years old (at least0 or that the European and U.S. models are vastly superior. or when questioned, Nissan's reply "we listen to our customers". again no mention of an unjustified LCT on both vehicles. maybe to make it fair you should have compared the 300 to a 1982 cruiser. what I just witnessed AGAIN is a fully paid PR blurb for Toyota. you must be really frightened to speak out else Toyota stop loaning you vehicles. make it honest by having a banner run across the bottom telling the viewer it's a paid advert.
Good to see that the caravan in the tow test was (only) 2.8T. That's about the practical safe limit for any of these tugs with claimed 3.5T towing capacity. Unless you don't mind the tail wagging the dog at inopportune times.
10+ year old Patrol vs a brand new LC- I don't think it was a fair comparison. That being said, what about the price? I don't recall you mentioning their price tags (maybe I missed it?).
It’s not a 10 year old patrol. It’s a brand new current tech patrol V’s a brand new current tech LC. It’s a fair comparison. Either way, I’d have the patrol and have a spare 45-50k in fuel money.
6 months, ohh your referring to when a dealership can sell its demo stock haha. Try 12 months for a delivered toyota. Stick a super charger on the nissan and then come compare apples to apples. You can buy a lot of fuel and differences in service cost for 40k
The ‘Trol is a cheaper model from ages ago …and that 5.6L V8 revs butter-smooth through its range with a satisfying growl - easily worth spending $4000 on some interior cabin tech. It’ll take many years before you burn enough petrol before you even spend what he Landcruiser costs. On the other hand the Landcruiser is a modern torquey turbo-diesel -- I wonder which I’d get…
Paid advertise or a review?second two head romm and leg room? Third row seat that is missing in a land cruiser, tuning it upgrading potential since Australian market is known for dualcab conversions and heavy towing, GR being the second from the top and the patrol ?
Not sure why anyone would compare a new 4x4 to one that has been around for over 10 years with only minor updates during that time. Waste of time watching. Wait until Nissan release a new model and then compare.
No to v6 diesel No to all the BS tech And no to 8.9 litres per 100, why do Toyota think that anyone buying a LC 300 (other than range) is price concious of fuel, and worst actually thinks buyers believe those contrived numbers. Shish
Really high lights how bad the 200 must be, they bag it in comparison to the 300. No mention of the fact it’s a hot v6 engine that shall be interesting.
Check Arabian gulf platinum patrol interior with 3 touch screens and other features than do your comparison. I am really surprised how low feature the Australian patrol have for a nation that love 4x4
Most reviews I have read counter your suggestions that the Landcruiser is better on road. The Patrol has independent suspension all round and hydraulic levelling suspension.....proven to give better road holding. Also you are in the minority over engine performance, most reviews rave about the VK56 petrol V8 in the Nissan, also this engine has proven itself bulletproof as early variants were fitted to American Commercial vehicles since 2004 (Nissan Titan). I think you made your decision who would win way before starting this test, but the Nissan is 10 years older design, the Landcruiser should be way better. Check 4X4 Australia review, different conclusion. Invest the $40K (thats a huge difference!) and after a few yrs you would have enough money to buy another Patrol! LC300 a good vehicle and so it should be, but $40K more, its not worth it.
i think toyota only offering EKDSS in GR Sports model , i am not happy, GR must comes with Bigger Tire and Complete underbody Skid plate all over bottom from factory and what if this LC300 Tested 80% in Australia they should know what market need . nicly built but main things are missing , bigger tires and Skid plates
The under armor protecting the important bits is also plastic vs the 200 with steel. I'm starting to think they skimped on that so they could say its lighter. Also didn't most of the 200 lineup have KDSS?
Wow a brand new freshly designed car that costs $45k more is better than a tried and true 10 year old design? Who would have thought. But who has $140k and a year to wait for a new car? And what about when they refresh the patrol next year. Check out the 2021 armada interior. There’s a big clue there.
Well who knew the Cruiser would win that one. A brand new design against a decade old design did you really expect anything different and with all that Toyota advertising revenue at stake who would dare say anything different. Six months wait? Pull the other one. There hasn’t been one dealer prepared to put an arrival date on any of the 300’s. At least your the first one I’ve seen to open the now huge one piece tail gate. Wasn’t that a step backwards that no one mentions. I have a 2020 Sahara and know a lot of others with 200’s and not one thinks the one piece tailgate is a better idea.
@@PlaydohDookie I take your point and there are times I wish Toyota had made the lower tailgate open both ways like the Falcon wagons in the 70’s used to do. You could drop those down or swing them open. That gave you the best of both worlds. Cheers
300 Series LC's are not currently imported into the USA, as a result a used LC prices have sky rocketed. Used to be $70K range for a brand new 200 and now, used 200 with about 10K miles are going for easy $100 K. No way I am buying those inflated LC's. Nissan Y62 sold in US as Armada and is 100% Japanese built, V8 Patrol. A brand new Armada 4x4 with basic options sells for $53K delivered + tax. The all 4 independent is not my favorite and all Armada's comes with 22 inch wheels, yak!
The new LC especially was going to better without doubt and it bloody should be. But with around $45k to play with on the Patrol, a small super charger, engine chip tune, better wheel and tyre combo, nice off bullbar, 2" lift, good set of driving lights and you would still have around $25k to spend on free fuel and that's a lot of motoring.
Accounting for differences in fuel consumption between petrol and diesel (i.e. take the official midway of patrol's official urban and freeway and landcruiser's urban) fromr redbook data; Patrol is 17.3/100km (95), Landcruiser 11.3/100km (diesel). Using NSW fuel check, the current the average for 95 unleaded is 183.3, Diesel is 162. So the Patrol will be $13.4 more expensive to run per 100 km. If you do 10 years, 150,000 km it will be over $20k more, if you are a serous off-roader, you could do up to 250,000 or more i.e. the Patrol will cost $33k+ more in petrol. Assuming equal depreciation after servicing costs (if you compare the first perolTiL in 2015, midway redbook info suggests it lost $22.95k vs $26.95k value for the Toyota but then you have video noted extra servicing costs for the Patrol....) , given the Landcruiser's newer tech, better looks, sharper interior it is worth the extra dough (even at the 150k mark); the key reason to get the Patrol is for interior space, rear screens or you cant afford the initial very steep extra $45k.
The base model GX LC300 is $89,990. It has the same engne & trasmission as the GR Sport.
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@@Malc664 I was comparing these 2 in the test. But I agree the GX would be a far better comparable vehicle with the Y62. The GX is still bloody costly vehicle for a bog standard car and when you add on road costs, it will be close to 100k.
@@videowsatcher did you kot watch the video? There was only 3L difference in consumption during this test
Bought a new Y62 a year ago. Hasn’t missed a beat. People calling them rubbish have no idea and need some way to justify the ridiculous amount they spent on a Toyota. Swapped exhaust so it sounds amazing. Springs in rear and tows a big van with ease. Fits a 34” tyre with no mods needed. Driven a 300 twice now as it’s the newer car and was seriously considering changing over, just cannot see where they get the extra $$ from. Yes interior better but not $40k better.
The interior in the patrol looks worse than the old gu patrol 😂
In my country, the different price gap within these 2 is 60k$
I like how you just gloss over the $40k+ price difference. For all the "1%" differences between the Patrol and Cruiser, you're happy with a 40% price difference ...
1% difference lol keep dreaming
Lol…. Probably sponsor is Toyota?
@@nawedfaizi2042 Reviewers words (1% differences) not mine.
@666 Dual Sport The prices are listed in the review. Cruiser is $140k+.
@666 Dual Sport ... and GXL has far fewer features than the Ti L. Why would you compare the top of the line Patrol (Ti L) with the entry level Cruiser (GXL)? And if you're that strapped for cash, the Ti Patrol is some $15k cheaper than the GXL .... and still has more features than the GXL.
Gee, who would have thought a brand new car would win against a 10 year old car.
It did, or have you got your wires crossed !! Obviously a Nissan muppet !
Why not they were bullying the LandCruiser 200 which was a 14 year old car
Its Carsales. The winner is the biggest advertising budget
@@JimBob-vb8oz spot on
@@livenloud6697 Difference is it was comparing a 14 year old Landcruiser to a 10 year old patrol. Only 4 years difference. Not 10.
300 can never beat the space of Y62. My kids sleep with stretched legs in the Patrol. Something I can never imagine with the LC.
ridiculous review, it is almost an advertisement for Toyota, this is how reviewers lose credibility.
Yeah, the entire premise is just stupid. "Lets compare 10-15 year old car with brand new 2021 designed car"
Yeah
Don't know how much money toyota paid for this review?
Yeah right
Yes and since when does a foot brake make a car dated
Credibility gone on many fronts. "Mid corner kick back" WHAT!!! a load of garbage. A now they're re bagging the LC200? If the 200 was that bad, (as we all know it was,) why weren't they saying this for the last few years. All journos are running scared of Toyota. If they bag Toyota they won't get another car to test.
Waited for the 300 before we decided on a new family car. Just ordered a patrol 👍
Also, is this just a Toyota add??
Still get the patrol , 40 g off fuel will go a long way plus the v8 note you can’t beat it
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Make that up to 60g now, absolute madness. Anyone spending 150 plus on a vehicle that they are still comparing to a 100g patrol has rocks in their head. Unless you’re on 400g plus a year it’s a keeping up with the jones affair. In a few years time when we’re seeing next gen rivians hit our shores you won’t be able to give these things away. If I’m spendin 160+ on a cruiser I’d spend the extra and buy a 1500 limited. Anyone that’s worried about fuel on 100g plus cars makes me laugh - buy a dmax and tow a camper if you’re worried about fuel.
The entire market is just going FN stupid. The fact they are comparing the latest offering from Toyota to an old platform is absolutely comical. Here’s a comparison - compare the 300 to a 1500 limited.
I really appreciate the 300 and its tech but the price tag is just mind blowing its supercar territory and I feel it needs more
The price goes high because of the lak of availability
Wow!!! A Toyota add if I have ever seen one. Never drove an LC300 but have the Y62 5th Gen and I can tell you the Y62 is a dam good car and if you drive it normally it gets less the 12ltr per 100k and at 45k less you would be well in front with the Y62 and petrol is cheaper now days and much less maintenance. There is no cost crossover point the Y62 wins by a country mile all day long
You sound like a Nissan ad.
Those things are utter garbage.
@@larjkok1184 Over compensating are we LOL, I don't think you know what a Nissan Y62 looks like let alone drive one, but, it is your xtra 45k down the drain.......
Actually the GR works out to about $150k at the dealer with on roads. It’s insanely expensive.
@666 Dual Sport indeed. Here in Japan it doesn’t even cost $100k, it’s around 7.7M yen so roughly $95k including on roads. Gotta wonder why the Aus government still has these luxury car taxes when there isn’t even any local manufacturers in Aus anymore…
@@shirakabe here in the Philippines,the price tag for a LC 300 GR is roughly costing to 10 million pesos which matches the price of a base g class here also....it doubled the price from the old expensive LC 200......no wonder there are still 200’s here on the roads roaming than 300’s.
If you do the maths at displayed fuel economics it will take the patrol over 450,000km to price match the new lc🤣
It's more like a $55k difference... the LC300 gets a heap more LCT etc and the Nissan can be discounted if you wait the same timeframe. ( have quotes with a $60K difference) That's just ridiculous. Harrop, new digital dash and centre console and $35K to play with !!
Buy the patrol and use the left over money on fuel, renting 3.5t caravan and family road trips.
Just purchased my second Land cruiser upgrading from the LC200. You just can’t beat Toyota’s reliability and confidence.
@@aliibn-muhammadal-sharif8568 why are you Toyota fanboys sooo afraid of Vehicles breaking down???
You get less on resale, you spend more on maintenance. Nissan is now notorious for major failure. I will go with cruiser anyday. You are spending more for cruiser means you you will get more when you sale it, and the depreciation rate is lower than a patrol.
@@RealNightFuryX the likes of you are probably into shady stuff. Always excited about selling the vehicle when it’s supposedly “reliable”. Some paradox right there.
@@hastensavoir7782 ‘shady stuff’, I am perplexed to understand how the other comment implies anything illegal. I think you must be either intoxicated or mentally challenged.
As someone who works on Toyota's day in day out, and only Toyota 4x4's, I will still buy the y62. Why? Because it's a proven platform, it doesn't break components just doing basic 4x4 work, and they drive better for longer.
The components are completely new.
All independent, no live axles.
@@Robert-cu9bm rear is still live axle.
@@pheonixfps9248
Not in the y62
All independent
@@Robert-cu9bm I know.
I think you need to re read my comment. I think you have gotten confused by what I wrote. The components in the 62 are 11, going on 12 years old. They're not new, but substantially stronger.
@666 Dual Sport you keep telling yourself that while I keep fixing the actual rubbish.
Structural rigidity? Lol
Cut a y62 chassis open and you'll quickly find out that its extremely over engineered and ridiculously strong.
These reviewers know nothing
Be nice if Australia got the updated interior for the patrol, be a more fair comparison
True. The nissan patrol has 2 screen and it is not laggy. I have nissan patrol .
People who complaining about the price…lc 300 is lifetime car it will work like new for next 10 years my self will sell my Lexus2008 everything working on to buy lc300 for next 10 years with high tach comfort and quality
Nobody can say it's a lifetime car because it's reliability isn't known as yet. Give it 3-4 yrs before you can make such a statement
@@anthonyramdin1037 the engine and the gear already in old cars such as LS in the market for 3 years
@@anthonyramdin1037 history speaking, the lc has been one of the most reliable and long lasting car at least in my country.
The y62 patrol has already proven that it can last for 10 years tho and it’s cheaper so I don’t get your argument
@@mpandobanda787 in kuwait the patrol model 2010-2016 when u buy it you must buy extra fan from the outside market because its get heated super fast, sounds from decor etc become loud when you enter desert … and his parts more expensive f
" *This video is sponsored by Toyota* "
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Comparing apples with oranges 🤣. Y62 all day
No
Stupid people waste money on cars that have some tech over their competitors to which we all know is just not going to last at all.
Patrol for me all day long.
Old is better and reliable
*With 40k difference, any wise & logical thinking man will go for Y62 Patrol*
As you said, 40k for interior features is way to expensive.. rather go for y62
@@ajferrer3082 interior features are overrated, are you going to hold the wheel and drive or play with touch screens, people rate interior just to show off to others, the hype dies quickly after that
Compare the Patrol to the Prado Kakadu. Those are the same price but the Patrol is waaay bigger. And I know which we’d all choose.
Well if they sell the gr sport for a decade , then maybe by 2030 it would cost as much as the y62. But I would choose the patrol anyday.
Apparently Nissan have started work on the Y63, think I'll wait for that, also 8.9L on a large 4x4 is BS, maybe down hill with the wind behind ya, most dual cabs with real world results don't do much better than that, set of 31in tyres on my wife's dmax does 10 per 100 on the highway
Yep I think the claimed 200 was like 10.something. No one got better than 14.
I got 9 litres per 100 km on the Sydney Byron holiday in the Y62 , it shocked me better than manufacturers claims which is the opposite for the Toyota where real world is much worse. Wow what a Toyota advertising budget means to our business ….fake reviews ….
I’d suggest comparing models based on price….Although you can’t get a LC300 for the price of a Ti Patrol.
Maybe Ti up against the GX.
You can compare whatever model you like and the cruiser will come out on top and always has that’s why they hold their value so well, buy a cruiser and it will out live you
@@mannyvalenti475 Baaaaa
@@mannyvalenti475 you're just another sheep to the name mate.
@@mannyvalenti475 no they don't always come out on top. Here in this test the Y62 is far better in just about levels, check it out.ruclips.net/video/VGO2R9ez0mw/видео.html
Cruiselander hands down👍. Wife’s got a 200 Sahara, farm truck a 79 Turbo V8, had 60, 80, 100 series and hiluxes. No dramas, all good🙂
40K price difference is more than that in reality. If you don't spend and even put it in a decent investment, you get free fuel for the patrol and keep $40k. The price just obscene. But you know, I am all for free choice, and if people choose to waste money, good on em.
Don’t know why Australia still getting this old patrol instead of new one. The new Patrol Platinum edition is way better than this. It’s better than LC300. Interior is gorgeous and comes with 2 displays in centre. Check out Patrols in middle east and u’ll understand.
Probably because they don't sell many here so, it's a small market compared to the Middle East.
Used to love landcruisers but the new one with a TT v6,??? Nissan patrol all the way!
Lol. The 62 feels like a 10 year old car... It is.
The 300 feels more stable under brakes ( because it nose dives compared with the 62)
It seems the 300 is the winner not because it is better than the 62 but because it is better than the 200. Is it really 40% better across the board than the 62 to justify that price rise?
Geez....how much did Toyota pay for that 15min add?
Dead right. So many real pro's have acknowledged the Nissan is a superior vehicle out of the two . Good on ya
Maybe in your next video you can compare a LC 80 series against the Y62 and tell us how the dash in the 80 series seems dated in comparison. What a genius..
I have Nissan 2018 Armada (USA version of Patrol) i would take it any day over LC300. That 5.6 revs so quickly it's ridiculous. Towing 7k lb camper like it'snot there. I'm thinking of getting second one, because there is no other SUV that can match its performance for the price...
The other thing that pisses me off about these car makers is they just take the Australian buyer for granted and this goes for Toyota, but now Nissan. Why didn't Australia get the upgraded Nissan Patrol, to be charging that sort of money for this old design is just a plain rip off.
It doesn't even make sense how they justify making 2 different interiors. I assume its irk out another upgrade for current owners.
@@zoltrix7779 from what I understand, the patrol interior upgrade was only designed for left hand drive vehicles, still pathetic from such a large car maker.
@@Australiacalling As a conspiracy theorist, I think Nissan deliberately left it out so that could have another improvement for the Australian 2022 version.
@@zoltrix7779 that's possible, but still should have been done years ago.
The patrol in US and middle east is not the same as the Australian market
It would be good to see a proper review done by someone that isnt biast and can review both vehicles open minded,
Few things mentioned against the patrol are simply just not acurate, would be interested to see an un biast review
Totaly agree 👍🏽
Agree as well
Agree...patrol always stands out off-road...
He is paid by Toyota to wet his pants over it! that sort of money for essentially a 4WD is an utter joke.
Having also seen countless comparisons, I agree.
In my opinion, the LC300, which is the tad smaller then the LC200, is just far too small for the 3rd row and really should not have a 3rd row, just as tested here, and should be for all LC300 to be only 5 seats.
On the patrol, the interior can be updated (with after market), but it does have a lot more space. I have driven a patrol, and it is a lot more comfortable then what he said, and you do not hear much from outside the 4b.
The roads he drove on look to be excellent roads compared to roads here in Queensland, and both seem to look the same with ride comfort.
Next time they do a compare like this, I hope they get someone that is nautural to any brand, not like this and only for toyota.
For everyone, when looking for a 4b, test drive all the 4b's and choose the one the best suits you and the future plans you have.
Nissan patrol feels really old inside. Not too sure how the ride compares with the other models without the KDSS. KDSS plays a significant role in making the ride comfortable. All the Patrol models come with HBMC. Also, Info about the camera is incorrect. Camera- patrol also has 4 cameras. 360 degree view camera. Also another feature in the Patrol is the rearview mirror screen which actually gives you a very wide view of the rear side when driving. Would have been nice if it was in the Toyota too. LC 300 is definitely more modern looking inside. Not too sure what Nissan has on offer for Australia against LC 300. May be an updated Patrol?
Yep incoming next year. And it’s so nice
@@craigmckeown7540 Have you seen it? if so send a link to the picture
As a grey nomad I am concerned with towing weights but more importantly payload of the vehicle. Both the patrol and the previous V8 cruiser had appalling payloads for vehicles of there size. Not once did you mention payload. There is only 2 of us in the vehicle so dont need all the seats. Being in our 60s don't need all the tech like apple car play, lane assist or anything else tech related. Don't want DPF or add blue and all the issues that go with that. Just want a comfortable affordable vehicle capable of towing 3.2T for up to 500,000 kms with few issues like sensors etc that strand you in the middle of nowhere with no chance of fixing it yourself.
Am hearing ya mate.. Im a diesel tech and the last thing I wanna do is fix my own car after work.. diesels dead in the passenger vehicle market anyway by 2025 euro 7 comes into play and you most likely won't see a diesel at a dealer, I myself will be getting on the petrol bandwagon as thermal efficiency is now almost as good as diesel but with way less consequences, no EGR, ad blue or DPFs.. for now anyway, prime time to buy a petrol, diesels were in there prime before 2007
Buy a horse 🐎
@@shreckm6470
hahahahahahaha
@@mickromer6199 Agreed 100%
Rubbish review. For me when I am towing my Basestation I need a good rear view camera so I can see what is behind my big boxy van before I change lanes. Mirrors don't cut it. The cruisers discotech screen simply gets in the way! And playing with touch screens while driving is highly questionable. No split tail gate either.
maybe Patrol is older and does not have all LandCruiser's features, but price difference compensates the lack of that stuff. and as for me, Patrol is more reasonable thing to purchase.
After watching this review and the posts I realised how cheap MuX is compared to this larger SUVs. The MuX can tow 3.5 t and it has pretty much same tech of LC300 and 7 seaters yet it is 40% of LC GR price.
The New MUX has great interior, its 3rd row even beats these 2 Large SUV’s. The real shit is the Fortuner, bumpiest ride of ALL vehicles ever made.
@@hastensavoir7782 was driven in that vehicle a while ago, and I couldn't wait to get out, it was not settled at all!
@@TheJoker-qn6vw People buying those are Minions who obviously never test drove one.
Perspective.
GR Sport $147608 drive away.
TiL $102166 drive away.
Gr sport would want to be extremely better for the additional $45445.
It is.
@@oggyoggy1299 is it fk!
@@sluke9
Sure is. It is in a completely different league.
@@oggyoggy1299 No, it isn’t. Have you driven either? No didn’t think so.
@@sluke9
No.
And nor have you.
Always Nissan
-From saudi arabia🇸🇦
I agree with your assessment, that in isolation, the Patrol is a very competent 4WD, but against the LC300, it definitely shows its age. After seeing the LC300's interior, the Patrol's interior looks prehistoric.
Unfortunately Nissan can only blame themselves as other markets get much better interiors while Nissan Australia get the extremely old interior. But for the price gap you can easily get a custom dashboard better camera systems and infotainment systems and still have pocket change to run the car for years compared to the cost of Toyota.
anyone can stick an ipad to the dash :)
Patrol still trumps LC300 In terms of interior space, in all 3 rows and the boot space.
From all other media tests fuel consumption is nowhere near 8.9. It will be interesting when someone that’s not toyota bought does a load test fuel test.
Bruh patrol 2022 is already in market and this person is still making comparison between old patrol and new cruiser.. I mean
Wow so expensive you would never dare to go off road. Just a glorified tow vehicle in my eyes. What happened to a basic large solid reliable 4wds with a price tag mums and dads can afford.
Thats called a ute based wagon, eg MU-X, Everest etc. Its just that people in the modern world have decided thats not good enough for them. People in the modern world arent honest about what they actually need.
Mmm , pretty one sided, he said at least twice “it feels like a 10-15 yo car” lmfao well hello … it is!! ..
Taking nothing away from the cruiser very sweet vehicle … still for the price difference I could accessorise a patrol to my liking and still have money for fuel to travel round aus multiple times ,
Both of my dream cars being compared head to head. Obviously the TLC 300 series had to win. But i love the stature of the patrol with its NA 5.6l engine. Ironically the future me who will come back and read this would have bought both. Heck, why not!
i hate comparisons for the two iconic cars because i love both of them
Will a lot of people don't.
The new patrol isn’t iconic
no mention of the fact that the Nissan's dash is 10 years old (at least0 or that the European and U.S. models are vastly superior. or when questioned, Nissan's reply "we listen to our customers". again no mention of an unjustified LCT on both vehicles. maybe to make it fair you should have compared the 300 to a 1982 cruiser. what I just witnessed AGAIN is a fully paid PR blurb for Toyota. you must be really frightened to speak out else Toyota stop loaning you vehicles. make it honest by having a banner run across the bottom telling the viewer it's a paid advert.
Good to see that the caravan in the tow test was (only) 2.8T. That's about the practical safe limit for any of these tugs with claimed 3.5T towing capacity. Unless you don't mind the tail wagging the dog at inopportune times.
Aint no replacement for displacement
-Patrol
#V8
Theres nothing talk about Torque! #Diesel
Toyota lc is love but Nissan Patrol is just beautyyyyy.
Does Nissan plan on releasing the new Patrol here?
It's like Australia doesn't want the Patrol to succeed.
Lc300 GR series is the best looking land cruiser..i love it...sadly,my wallet couldnt afford it 😬
With the price of the GR you could buy a y62 and an Altima. Good Ad, how much were u offered?
Dear carsales, please stop playing so music in your reviews. Please. We want to hear the car and the speaker well
It got even better, the 2022 Patrol now has official 12 month or 10,000km service intervals!
10+ year old Patrol vs a brand new LC- I don't think it was a fair comparison. That being said, what about the price? I don't recall you mentioning their price tags (maybe I missed it?).
It’s not a 10 year old patrol. It’s a brand new current tech patrol V’s a brand new current tech LC. It’s a fair comparison. Either way, I’d have the patrol and have a spare 45-50k in fuel money.
@@markandkim66 it’s an updated patrol (not brand new like LC).
@@markandkim66 Like he said, 'updated' not brand new.
LC is nice but astronomically priced and hence hard to say yes to.
1992 Nissan Patrol was a master piece .neck to neck land cruiser of that same year
How mutch is land cruiser ??
6 months, ohh your referring to when a dealership can sell its demo stock haha. Try 12 months for a delivered toyota. Stick a super charger on the nissan and then come compare apples to apples. You can buy a lot of fuel and differences in service cost for 40k
The ‘Trol is a cheaper model from ages ago …and that 5.6L V8 revs butter-smooth through its range with a satisfying growl - easily worth spending $4000 on some interior cabin tech. It’ll take many years before you burn enough petrol before you even spend what he Landcruiser costs. On the other hand the Landcruiser is a modern torquey turbo-diesel -- I wonder which I’d get…
I would go for the patrol for sure $40000 different price 🤔
I thought I was watching a caradvice video. Good to see someone has filled there spot.
How Much Has Toyota paid for this commercial 😭😭😉😭
Paid advertise or a review?second two head romm and leg room? Third row seat that is missing in a land cruiser, tuning it upgrading potential since Australian market is known for dualcab conversions and heavy towing, GR being the second from the top and the patrol ?
Not sure why anyone would compare a new 4x4 to one that has been around for over 10 years with only minor updates during that time. Waste of time watching. Wait until Nissan release a new model and then compare.
Paid review 😑
Well then we have to wait for like 4 years lol
@@blgn3502
The new Patrol will be shown withen 2 years
No to v6 diesel
No to all the BS tech
And no to 8.9 litres per 100, why do Toyota think that anyone buying a LC 300 (other than range) is price concious of fuel, and worst actually thinks buyers believe those contrived numbers. Shish
Everyone knows that Toyota always lies about fuel usage for lc, prado, hilux etc. Toyota can't fool us
All the y62 lovers will go crazy
Can we get the latest overseas style imported to Australia? Y62
No surprise there; the Toyota Mafia has spoken again. And if people are willing to pay over $40k more, go for it.
It’s certainly worth the extra $
The Nissan is a prehistoric pig of a thing.
Imagine having to look at that dash every day.
Id rather the Patrol the V8 trumps th Toyota.
@@nathanielmartyr-gogerly2408
Okay.
Did covid make people crazy? it's as if Toyota fanboys are proud to be overcharged. You guys should request Toyota to charge you more.
Really high lights how bad the 200 must be, they bag it in comparison to the 300.
No mention of the fact it’s a hot v6 engine that shall be interesting.
Check Arabian gulf platinum patrol interior with 3 touch screens and other features than do your comparison. I am really surprised how low feature the Australian patrol have for a nation that love 4x4
That's the point!
Because Aussies love simplicity
Most reviews I have read counter your suggestions that the Landcruiser is better on road. The Patrol has independent suspension all round and hydraulic levelling suspension.....proven to give better road holding. Also you are in the minority over engine performance, most reviews rave about the VK56 petrol V8 in the Nissan, also this engine has proven itself bulletproof as early variants were fitted to American Commercial vehicles since 2004 (Nissan Titan). I think you made your decision who would win way before starting this test, but the Nissan is 10 years older design, the Landcruiser should be way better. Check 4X4 Australia review, different conclusion. Invest the $40K (thats a huge difference!) and after a few yrs you would have enough money to buy another Patrol! LC300 a good vehicle and so it should be, but $40K more, its not worth it.
What's with the door trim and dash of the 300 series! Feels like a 50k Hilux not a 140k Cruiser.
And the Nissan’s is from an old wooden horse drawn coach.
@@larjkok1184 so does the 300, except they used grey instead of brown.....
So is the LC300 $40k better?
Really impressed with the review. On point, unbiased I feel. All good info. Best review I've seen on the 300, as in quality 👍. good job. 🙃
It can’t be worth $40k more though…no matter that it’s better…….ridiculous pricing
It's worth what people are willing to pay.
People are willing to pay $270k for a Mercedes G wagon.
Huge difference in price not a fair comparison. How about you compare the landcruiser with a $150,000 defender?
i think toyota only offering EKDSS in GR Sports model , i am not happy, GR must comes with Bigger Tire and Complete underbody Skid plate all over bottom from factory and what if this LC300 Tested 80% in Australia they should know what market need .
nicly built but main things are missing , bigger tires and Skid plates
The under armor protecting the important bits is also plastic vs the 200 with steel. I'm starting to think they skimped on that so they could say its lighter. Also didn't most of the 200 lineup have KDSS?
Your channel has some good background music 🎵
Wow a brand new freshly designed car that costs $45k more is better than a tried and true 10 year old design? Who would have thought. But who has $140k and a year to wait for a new car? And what about when they refresh the patrol next year. Check out the 2021 armada interior. There’s a big clue there.
Nissan Patrol rules!
unless we are getting the new interiors, patrol cannot compete…
They need to compare the
Middle east patrol interior and Lexus 570 than this LC.
Well who knew the Cruiser would win that one. A brand new design against a decade old design did you really expect anything different and with all that Toyota advertising revenue at stake who would dare say anything different. Six months wait? Pull the other one. There hasn’t been one dealer prepared to put an arrival date on any of the 300’s. At least your the first one I’ve seen to open the now huge one piece tail gate. Wasn’t that a step backwards that no one mentions. I have a 2020 Sahara and know a lot of others with 200’s and not one thinks the one piece tailgate is a better idea.
I do - I hated climbing in to grab stuff from just behind the seats. I've always preferred the GX\Standard model barn doors for this reason.
@@PlaydohDookie I take your point and there are times I wish Toyota had made the lower tailgate open both ways like the Falcon wagons in the 70’s used to do. You could drop those down or swing them open. That gave you the best of both worlds. Cheers
Yeah I will still pick the Nissan any day
Tech is not important off road, in fact the more tech can go wrong, when you are “out there “
That only "tech" thats important is carplay and android auto. And to be honest, thats not really tech.
Toyota tech different than other tech it will live as your age high quality need money
THis is dumb. You are comparing a 10-15 year old design with a 2021 design. Come on guys...
No swivels anymore ?
Does the new Land Cruiser come with a Standard transmission
@@electrikoptik
I meant to say does the new Land Cruiser 300 series come with a standard manual transmission
The patrol like a boss... With v8... Not intersted with technology
no towing mpg comparison?
Rather pay for a RAM than a LC300
300 Series LC's are not currently imported into the USA, as a result a used LC prices have sky rocketed. Used to be $70K range for a brand new 200 and now, used 200 with about 10K miles are going for easy $100 K. No way I am buying those inflated LC's. Nissan Y62 sold in US as Armada and is 100% Japanese built, V8 Patrol. A brand new Armada 4x4 with basic options sells for $53K delivered + tax. The all 4 independent is not my favorite and all Armada's comes with 22 inch wheels, yak!