Decadessss ago, the Shroud made an extraordinarily rare tour and I was able to view it with my own eyes and feel it’s intense energies and I completely fell into such a deep immersive state of love and utter awe.. there was no rush either.. I mean obviously we moved along but everyone in line allowed for several minutes of adoration… it was so moving…
I visited Turin, Italy in 2012. I was able to go to the cathedral where the shroud of Christ is housed. They showed pictures of the shroud. Peace & awe overwhelmed me as I stood looking at it. There was absolutely no doubt in my mind that this was the cloth that covered our Lord in the tomb. I thank God for allowing me to witness and view this sacred relic.
Last year I was on a pilgrimage to Rome and Turin with my church community and because my community is supported locally by the Bishop of Turin we were allowed to see it, although we stood in line for many hours as other communities were there too. I went on my knees before it and I clearly remember gazing into Our Lords eyes....... Such peace and stillness radiated from His Holy Face. You could see He had found peace at the end of his torment at Golgatha. It was as if you could almost hear him whisper “It is finished”.
@@johnbrowne3950 Let me make it clear that no Real Catholic worships the Shroud of Turin or the god of this world, so all those are your very own, hateful lies, a straw man argument. It is your hateful screeds, three of them in a row, as if your prejudice and hatred were not satisfied so you kept coming back, that are demonic. I am a former Protestant now Catholic, and I know very well that the large majority of Protestant and/or liberal anti-Catholic bashers and attack dogs are totally guilty of those very things that they accuse Catholics of. Your argument about "it has been proven to be fake" is not scientific, as non-Catholic scientists have come forward to reveal how the recent testing was done in such a way as to "prove" it to be fake. No "medieval forger" would have ever gone against things like the traditional nails in the palm of the hands or against a ring of thorns instead of a full helmet of thorns, etc, etc. like the Shroud does. A fake using fake science only proves how fake he/she is. That's demonic.
@@johnbrowne3950 Your hateful screeds reveal YOU yourself were never born again, do not have Jesus in you and remain totally dead in the foulness of your sins, which comes out through your mouth and writings. "From the abundance of the heart (sin in your case) the mouth speaks". Like the Pharisees of Jesus time, you are a modern day Pharisee, hiding behind the caricaturization and demonization of the Catholic Church. Your distortions and caricatures only reveal your cultic, fanatical mentality and that you are a walking caricature yourself. You desperately NEED the Catholic Church as a human shield to distract away and hide your despicable sins. You worship with bended knee at the latrine of your own sins while calling yourself "Christian". There's sinners, of course, even some horrific ones among the Catholics, but the total satanic arrogance of Protestants like you, no different than the most extreme radical Leftists atheists, that convinced me to leave Protestantism and look for God's absolute best, sinners on both sides notwithstanding.
@@johnbrowne3950 I do not have to respond to the same old and recycled accusations that have been already answered so very well for centuries and waste my time with you. You are a Protestant Leftist using the same Saul Alinsky tactics as those that are trying to destroy the USA and all Christianity. You are trying to involve me in a tar baby tactics were it never ends because, as you PROJECTED so well of yourself, you are part of a cult, where there's no possibility for dialogue and no place for Authentic Truth. If you were "Catholic" in the past it was totally in name only. Now you are just a lowly accuser, cowardly hiding behind your accusations and posing as someone with authority while you have none. Who derives false authority from incessant, obsessive, vicious, false accusations? Satan The Accuser, and you are his child. Do not worry, you will not need Purgatory, if you keep doing what you are doing, you are going Express Mail to Hell.
@@johnbrowne3950 How is it that all "Catholics" leaving the Catholic Church have the exact, same, stereotypical, old story about never ever seeing a Bible or not being told anything ever about it? Because it's a false story a total, verifiable fraud! The Catholic Mass alone is centered around 3 Bible readings (Old Testament, a Psalm and the New Testament) and the celebration of the Eucharist. Were was your mind and heart when those readings were read with great reverence and discussed, however imperfectly, by the preaching of the Priest? I was born and lived in a very old fashioned Catholic town and knew the Bible early on. No one was doing this often repeated, stupid Kabuki theater drama of hiding it from me. You Biblio-latry, your worship of the Bible as God, does nor honor the Bible at all, and has created the monstrosity today of more than 25 to 35,000 different Protestant denominations (depending on how you count them). Which of those 35K has the true interpretation? Even legitimate Protestant Pastors like Ray Comfort expose the huge hypocrisy. Protestant denominations have an average duration of 200 years, the Catholic Church is 2,000 years old. Keep dreaming in that church that has inflated your ego so obviously much, you will wake up to an eternal nightmare.
@@johnbrowne3950 You are just a vacuum-sealed, cult-minded fanatic, full of the lust of self-righteousness. The greatest Protestant Pastor I've ever seen, late D. James Kennedy, NEVER wasted a second with anti-Catholic bigotry. He preached only JESUS and not fanatical self-righteous cultism like you. You can only fight the Catholic Church by demonizing it, by LYING about it. All you listed here are LIES. You are a psychopathic liar hiding behind a Christian label. Indeed, are you one of those predators of your own flock and desperately need to hide that? Our predators have been exposed, what about yours? That's all I wanted the commenters and readers here to see, that you can't even make one sentence without lying. Like the Pharisees, You are child of the Father of Lies. My work here is done.
@@jccornerstone JC Cornerstone: And God said to Moses, "Honor Your Father and Your Mother". Which father was God referring to? And what do you call your dad?
Father Ryan,I'm a Catholic from the Philippines,I really liked your program about Jesus.I learned a lot,I felt that I'm bless.Thanks a lot 2 father's.God bless you both!I'm 76 years old now.
They displayed a replica of the Shroud at the World's Fair in New Orleans in 1984. It was so lifelike it was eerie. I was volunteering at the Vatican Museum, the exhibit showing tapestries that were by artists that are household name now, Reubens, Renoirs, on and on. They had galleries with curved walls, in order to best display them. I do needlepoint and crosstitch, so it was particularly touching to me. Still gives me goosebumps. I had a hardbound catalog of the exhibit, until Hurricane Katrina. It's no longer available, thirty years on. Losing my books and other ephemera I had collected, and my pet parrot were the hardest things to lose. The couple that helped my sister gut the place thought I could have opened my own library. I never talk about this, it's still very painful to me. Thanks for hearing me out.
I am so sorry about your pet and books. My husband died suddenly 7 months ago at 48 years old and I had to leave my books when I moved. I got to take my quilting books and a few others. It was heartbreaking. One day I hope I get to meet you in heaven. God Bless You All the Days of Your life.
All my life I have been a skeptic about the Shroud, even as a Catholic, but this episode has convinced me that it is authentic. Especially the part about the spectroscopy and pollen identification. There is certainly a host of anti-Catholics that will say many things to the contrary, and the Wikipedia page certainly mentions their arguments a lot more, but I for one have now looked at both sides and have come to the conclusion that the Shroud is authentic. Great show!
Skepticism arises when all the fact are not reviewed analyzed that is accepted and dismissed. Many many years ago when I become aware of the first photograph I accepted as a true relic. When a man that liked taking pictures with a new gadget saw something that he did not expect too appear in the glass plate he realized that his camera solved a mystery that was two thousand years old-no human hands paintings, no paints prepared by humans hands. Over the years as scientific instruments evolved they all added to the mysterious appearance on the cloth. After the first photograph no one could imagine what else the image could reveal as no one could conceive what new equipments would be invented. So, one that has a very open mind becomes a believer in the cloth of Turin.
There's a great documentary on The Shroud..they also did dna testing and it shows that the blood is from 1 human woman..(The Blessed Virgin Mary) but no Dna from the father...Truly amazing!! Also there's evidence of a nanosecond of an event horizon that "scorched" His image into the cloth....
Look deeper the truth is always hidden in plain sight ! These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph. He is real ! God bless you 🙏ruclips.net/video/Ogr1ttluJl4/видео.html
@@debraellis7163 The Holy Shroud of Turin captures it instant of the resurrection the very moment the doorway was opened to eternity and reveals layer upon layer of the truth of life !
Another great show! I've been to the church where the Shroud is kept. Unfortunately, it wasn't one of the years when it was taken out. It was still an amazing experience to be there! You guys need to make some t shirts - I really want one! God bless you all!
I was fortunate to listen to a talk by one of the scientists who did the 1978 study of the Shroud. Even though the carbon dating was off, he felt that it was tainted and the truth would reveal the true dating sometime in the future. He said all other results pointed to the Shroud coming from the middle east. Shows all the marks of the terrible crucifixion of Our Lord. The scourging Our Lord took for our sins....Lord have mercy on our souls.
As you all may know the Shroud is on view every 10 years in Turin. The last time it was on view me and my family were fortunate to be able to attend and see it. To be in its presence literally brought tears to my eyes. For me it is the real deal.
@Patrick Fahey There was a serious error made by the testers when they extracted their sample from a part of the Shroud that was cinched in a fire in the middle ages, was then mended with cotton and dyed to match the linen. That was discovered not too long ago by one of the original testers who was diagnosed with terminal cancer, but was able to complete his test and establish the record. The Shroud is real! Check this video. Shroud: New discoveries ruclips.net/video/E_fSgPQYxkk/видео.html
Look deeper the truth has always been hidden in plain sight ! These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph. He is real ! God bless you 🙏ruclips.net/video/Ogr1ttluJl4/видео.html
@Andy LH Your wrong John 20:7 speaks of the linen cloth in the empty tomb. Don't you think this would of been the disciples treasure and protected and hidden from view. Only to come to light in the centuries after. The Shroud of Turin is the burial cloth of a man brutally murdered with all the tortured wound marks of a man crucified and believed to be that of Jesus Christ. Unexplainable by modern science to this day. Many research scientist from all over the world have studied this cloth for decades. Check the S.T.U.R.P investigation you may have your eyes opened to the truth.
@Andy LH these images are revealed through digital photography look and you will see remnants of or entire images layer upon layer of the truth of life.
@Andy LH I hope that gives you comfort on your death bed. There was an analysis of the shroud some years ago that dated fibres to the middle ages but that could have been on of the many repairs done on it during its life. Science has proved that the image is of a photographic negative imprinted onto the cloth at least a thousand years before photography was invented - how? Also it is thought that the power to achieve this impregnation would be of a mini nuclear fission taking place yet the cloth was not burned. There is more than you know at work here but I think your prejudice blinds you to faith? God bless you.
God allowed the shroud to be found as a testimony of Jesus's Resurrection. The amount of light in a nano second is only indicative that NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD. When he wants to show us meagre humans who HE is HE does things that defy the laws of nature. Like Jesus own virginal birth.
Someday I hope you will do a show about the face cloth of Veronica, where she wiped the face of our Lord as He carried His cross. That cloth still exists, and the markings on it match both the face burial cloth and the Shroud of Turin. That cloth was exceptional cloth, made of mother of pearl, and only 1 person in the world now knows how to make that cloth, that's how special and rare it was and is, and what a respectful, belief-filled act Veronica did, to use the most expensive cloth then and now to wipe Jesus' face. How reverential.
I am a Evangelical Christian and a firm believer that the Shroud is the burial cloth of Jesus. I've been studying it intensely over the past couple of months but I've always had a fascination with it when I first saw it as a teenager in a magazine. From an evangelicalism standpoint many who are not Catholics do not know that much about the Shroud and it's important because it is largely looked at as a Catholic Relic how many non-catholics either do not know about the Shroud or dismiss it as just another Relic that the Catholic Church worships. Maybe it's time to pull back on denominational stove pipes to ensure that the Shroud can be used as an Evangelical tool to share Jesus and his gospel with everyone and that they too may come to know the truth of the gift of salvation that our father has given us through his sons atonement on the cross
Many years ago, I hurt my hand by pulling out a weed from the base of a rose bush. My hand connected with the rose trunk, and a thorn stabbed the top of my thumb with a lot of force. It bled quite a bit, but the pain was what shocked me. It was excruciating. That single stab, so horribly painful, was nothing compared with what Our Lord Jesus endured, just from the crown of thorns. The crown was more a cap of thorns than a circlet. Therefore, there were more thorns than we usually imagine, and it probably needed to be bashed onto the head.
So awful to think about how painful it must have been. Whenever I have a pain I think about what Our Lord went through and realize what I have is nothing.
Much of the scientific evidence and mysteries surrounding the Shroud are explained quite well, and quite convincingly I might add, in the "Urantia Book". That is if anyone cares to even bother looking into it. Every aspect of the anomalies that are related to the Shroud are very easy to understand, once one becomes edified as to the nature of what actually happened in the tomb on that Easter morning. It's all very logical as to the reasons for what we find on the Shroud after reading about the true sequence of events that took place.
@Commendatore You don't have to read the entire book, all 2096 pages. It has a separate section on the life of Jesus, and the part that speaks about his Assention is the portion you need to read. If you are truly interested bin finding out about what happened, then read it straight from the book. It describes it better than I could, and you owe it to yourself to get it first hand, anyway.
I will be going with our church to the Holy Land this year and cannot wait to experience and visit all the holy sites, including The Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Thank you for your excellent shows.
Thank you for this program. FYI, Oberammergau is not in Italy but Germany, and the Passion Play has been performed every 10 years going back to 1634 when it was vowed to God for being spared the Bubonic plague.
Here are some facts about Lichen. I was born 15 kilometers from Lichen (Licheń). About this rock with Holly Mary imprints, there is no evidence of authenticity of feet imprints. It is rather man-made artefact to remind The Holy Mother appeared three times to a shepherd Michal Sikatke in Grablin woods. When I was 9 or 10 my mother told me that stone was made because Mary’s feet imprint appear on the ground and people kept step on it, and every morning appeared again, and again. I don’ know it this is true, but I was maybe 10 when she told me that story. BTW, great Show!!! “The first appearance of Mary took place after the battle of Lipsk in 1813. Among those armies taking part in this bloody battle were the so called Polish „legiony”(Legions), who suffered horrendous casualties. One of these soldiers, Tomasz Kłossowski, a smith by profession, was badly injured and sought the intercession of Our Holy Mother asking for safe deliverance. Overcome by suffering he saw an apparition in the form of Mary moving around the battlefield, which promised him help and committed him to searching for her image. After many years of searching the miraculously saved legionary found an image depicting the form of Mary that he had seen on the battlefield at Lipsk. Finding the image near to Czestochowa he brought it back to his hometown of Izabelin where he paid specific devotion to it. After a number of years Tomasz Kłossowski brought the image to the Grablin woods, situated 3km away. He then housed the image in a small shrine nailed to a pine tree. In 1850 the site at which the image was kept was swept by apparitions. The Holy Mother as depicted in the image housed in the little shrine, appeared three times to a shepherd Michal Sikatke, through whom she called all people to penance, prayer and conversion. The miraculous nature of the image was further enhanced two years later during a cholera epidemic which wiped out the local population. The events linked to the epidemic were predicted by The Mother of God through the shepherd Mikolaj Sikatke in 1850. The infirm and endangered populace began to gather at the apparition site, before the image housed in the small shrine on the pine tree in the nearby woods. Faith, fervent prayer and honour to Our Lady brought health and necessary graces to the local people. The image began to gain more devotions, and its fame began to spread to all the nearby villages. In view of this rise in devotion and also due to the images safety it was moved to the local Parish church of Lichen in 1852. From that moment the image has been honoured with specific unceasing devotion. The faithful come to ask for graces needed for them and their loved ones through the intercession of Our Most Holy Mother.”
Would love to visit Italy and see everything BUT the Shroud is very special to me...if you have an xray copy of it and you shine a very bright light behind it the divine mercy comes out of it...it was found while moving the copy in front of a window with the sun shining in at the shrine of the divine mercy in the Ozark Mountains...it is absolutely breathtaking to see thus occur
Please explain briefly how you got an XRay. Facts and Exact detail are more important now than ever before. Not just a personal account if this is true.
IT IS 100% real Look deeper ! These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph. He is real ! God bless you 🙏ruclips.net/video/Ogr1ttluJl4/видео.html
Love watching this show! I feel like there are so many little tidbits that I feel like I should have heard in a homily by now but haven't! One request, whenever you reference a painting, image, other resource that can be found online, will you please put a link to it in the description? For example, around 8:30 you talk about what is likely the first in-person painting of the Shroud. Can you link to it?
The Passionspiele (Passion Play) of Oberammergau, Germany, is fascinating. It began as gratitude to God for sparing the town from the Black Death. Only natives of the town are permitted to perform on or off stage. (In 2010, they did have a non-native camel on stage, and were careful to point this out.) The play is always on an open-air stage, subject to adverse weather conditions. The Passion play is now performed every ten years, from June to October. This year, because of the Covid-19 pandemic, the play has been postponed until 2022.
I was listening to this while doing a little dry fire weapons training and they told of the firefighter carrying the impossibly heavy case containing the Shroud and it became as light as a child and he felt like the do.key carrying our Lord I just inexplicably burst into sobs like a sword through my heart. I love the Shroud but I've never been hardcore Shroudie.
24:33 UV The image was created from an explosion of light that lasted for less than a millisecond, yet was more powerful than any light source created by humanity in our world history -- 40 billion watts. Edit: And this has now been verified.
@Andy LH I am not the researcher making the claim. But I found it 'noteworthy' and worthy of further investigation. That is why I added the 24:33 which marked the point where the information was presented. Are you familiar with any means to test this assertion?
@Andy LH I believe the researcher's name is Barrie Schwortz. He is a retired technical photographer. And he was a member of the original 1978 Shroud of Turin research team.
@Andy LH When he started he was actually a cynical skeptic and very much doubted the authenticity of the image. If one had asked me years ago my opinion of the image, I would have likewise said it was a clever forgery. But more recent research would seem to indicate there there is something else going on. Certainly there are evidences in the shroud with date it to a much earlier time. So now I am not so sure what to think, but I am leaning in the direction this may be the real image of the risen Christ. I would encourage you to watch the video and analyze it for yourself. The part regarding the coins in the eyes was shocking and would require a level of sophistication that, in my opinion, would probably not be readily accessible to artists of medieval times.
@Andy LH Thank you for sharing the link. There was a considerable amount of good counter-information in the link you provided. And I found the conversation to Pope Clement VII to be particularly noteworthy. It is something that should be fairly considered when judging the validity. My own personal conviction is that some are too quick to conflate "unexplained" with "miraculous". I suspect this may have played a part in the reduction of certain saints to more of a local status. But I do believe in miracles. And I do suspect there is still something more to this shroud than meets the eye. So far the shroud seems to have defied a clear explanation as to how it was produced. This doesn't mean there will never be a natural explanation found. But it does seem to be some kind of unique flash-point manufacture which is unusually sophisticated for a medieval artist.
I'm not sure if you are asking because you aren't sure, or if you just want to educate others. The short answer is... kneel after the Hosanna acclamation and the Lamb of God (kneel because that is when jesus is present in the eucharist). Stand when the priest says "pray" (Jews in Jesus's time stood up while praying).
Yes AB negative the SAME blood type of several Eucharistic Miracles, when a consecrated host becomes flesh and blood. There are 126 Church-approved Eucharistic Miracles
Guys thank you so much for all you guys do its awesome. Just wondering if you guys could ask Brant pitre on the show you guys would defiantly kick it off
@Enzo 1965 the so called holographic effect is just that the intensity of the "color" is proportional to the distance of the object, that means that is like making a chiaroscuro, but you press the pencil/brush when the represented surface is more distant and press less when it's near. In the case of the shroud you could do viceversa, but it really depends how they achieved that result. (You can Google modelled drawing to see something similar, even though the works are not impressing) But to summarize saying that "it contains 3d information" it's just big words, every well made chiaroscuro contains 3d information, this is how our brain sees things in 3d, with shadows an binocular vision, you can easily take a Caravaggio paint and make it a 3d hologram using the shadows he made.
These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph. He is real ! God bless you 🙏ruclips.net/video/Ogr1ttluJl4/видео.html
@@guzelguzel6481 look deeper! These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph. He is real ! God bless you 🙏ruclips.net/video/Ogr1ttluJl4/видео.html
Thanks for ur reply on the postures. The specific posture during praying Our Lord's prayer during the Eucharistic service is wat I was trying to specify. We stand and pray, but shud our hands b joined or raised up. Wud appreciate ur response.Thanks
Lorna : Hands joined, head bowed, eyes down, speak softly. Ignore all around you, you are praying to God. DON'T hold hands like kids in a nursery school! DON'T wave your arms around in the air. DO look for a Latin Mass and this problem won't come up.
#WorldsFirstPhotocopy ..after working as a print technician and understanding how photoconductors transfer images onto media via lasers or thermal ribbon printers.. either way you need light and heat to create that image, but the laser point refinement of that image speaks volumes for the intensity of that light that rendered that image.
There's a great documentary on The Shroud..they also did dna testing and it shows that the blood is from 1 human woman..(The Blessed Virgin Mary) but no Dna from the father...Truly amazing!! Also there's evidence of a nanosecond of an event horizon that "scorched" His image into the cloth.... This same docu,shows the the original carbon dating was inaccurate because it was taken from a repaired part of the cloth after it was in a fire in one of the centuries..
The Holy Shroud of Turin First captures the instant of the resurrection the very moment the doorway was opened to eternity and reveals layer upon layer of the truth of life. Look deeper! These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph. He is real ! God bless you 🙏ruclips.net/video/Ogr1ttluJl4/видео.html
Please invite the Catholic theologian, Dr Taylor Marshall, onto your show. He has a new book out that is #1 in the Catholic section. It's called "Infiltration:The Plot To Destroy The Church From Within". It's about the liberalism and modernism that's infiltrated the Church.
The miracle of miracles ! Look deeper! These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph. He is real ! God bless you 🙏ruclips.net/video/Ogr1ttluJl4/видео.html
24:58. Yes, and furthermore, this radiation had to have eminated from within the center of Jesus' body outward all directions to produce the image on the Shroud.
Would love some references for the info you mentioned on the electromagnetism found during the restoration of the Holy Sepulchre. It's very difficult to locate the actual data and scientific analysis. Most of what I've found is commentary and indirect references. I've always loved the Shroud!
I believe Jordan Peterson - unlike Joe Rogan - is Sincere in searching for Christian Truth. His wife has already converted to Catholicism. I think Jordan is very close. He is just trying to "Get all his Ducks in a Row" as I suspect he would say. Eventually, he will convert at least to Christianity and wholly commit himself to it. Joe Rogan is to scared at this point.
Nice work guys, love the show. It disheartens me though, in light of the carbon dating result, to so often hear defenders of its authenticity to go right to the technical aspects of why the dating of the shroud was probably inaccurate. To challenge anyone using the carbon dating result as "proof of forgery", one need only compare it to the carbon dating result of the Sudarium, then apply common sense. If both carbon datings were fairly accurate, anyone purporting forgery would have to build a scenario of how the unknown crafty 13th century artist got a hold of a bloody cloth from some 550 years earlier, taken out of a tomb for some reason, pulled it from another country, sampled the blood type, matched it to his own unique artistic creation (using the blood of a tortured man of course, as it's still red due to the high bilirubin content), then returned the head cloth, then traveled back home to work on the remaining image. Since some of the blood has caked off, it revealed white linen underneath, so the image went on after the blood. If this is how it happened, then this is not an artist; he must have been a god himself. Or are we to believe that Jesus died and was resurrected in three different centuries? The Shroud being authentic and the datings being inaccurate is the only logical deduction left standing.
I wish Joe Rogan had the courage to have some experts on this as guest on his show. I can tell Christianity makes him uncomfortable probably because he is afraid of the truth. Great show!
I really want the shroud to be authentic. I go back and forth on it. In the interview, it was claimed that the piece used for carbon dating was from a repair. I’ve been researching the shroud for awhile and have never heard this claim. Is there a source I can use to verify?
Sure! Here are some: www.researchgate.net/publication/2601114_Evidence_For_The_Skewing_Of_The_C-14_Dating_Of_The_Shroud_Of_Turin_Due_To_Repairs www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/03/30/shroud-turin-display/2038295/ www.academia.edu/40272184/The_Invisible_Reweave_and_Other_Challenges_to_the_Turin_Shrouds_C_14_Medieval_Dating_A_Review
They have the original shroud and they have 2 very realistic photocopies. The original is in Rome. First copy is somewhere else in Italy. And the 2nd copy is at Kennric-Glennon Seminary in St. Louis Missouri, USA I've seen both copies but I've never seen the original
I think they keep it hidden because of John 20:29. Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen, and have believed."
There have been tons of verified miracles since Apostolic Times. For the Multiple millions of Unbelievers. Many Eucharistic Miracale and others like Tht Fatima Miracles and the Lourds Miracles. You will never be accepting if you turn your back on Objective Facts to preserve your faith in a Man Made Position invented 500 years ago. Or last week!
Why do we still bother about "Proof of Death" when we all know "He rose from Death" and the message is LOUD & CLEAR?. Don't we still believe He knocks on our hearts? To come in? (Rev 3:20) Dead people don't do that.
As a Catholic, I do think it's important to not hinge your faith on something like the Shroud. While I applaud the speakers, and have enjoyed listening, its important to note too that the church does not recognize the Shroud as a Relic, but merely an icon. This doesn't mean that it isn't worth considering, but be careful not to hinge your faith on it there are a lot of questions and scientific analysis that raises heavy questions not discussed in the video.
The Shroud proves your faith. Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man in the Shroud is Jesus Christ = (Catholic Jesus) ruclips.net/video/IUFehRFeAMk/видео.html
(7:43) speaking of the early Church Codex, ancient Edessa city archives include letters between King Abgar (of Edessa) and Jesus of Nazareth. King Abgar, who was suffering from arthritis and leprosy, had heard about Jesus' powers as a healer and wrote to Jesus, asking him to come and heal him. Eusebius quotes in full two letters, one from Abgar to Jesus and the second Jesus’ reply, which explained: “I must first complete here all for which I was sent” and then “be taken up to him who sent me,” but afterward “I will send to you one of my disciples to heal your suffering, and give life to you and those with you.” furthermore, a Vatican Library codex (number 5696, folio 35; twelfth century) says: “If indeed you desire to look bodily upon my face, I send you a cloth on which know that the image not only of my face, but of my whole body had been divinely transformed.” who could possibly read that and _not_ think they're talking about the Shroud of Turin?! btw, when the disciples finally arrived w/ the Shroud, King Abgar was instantly healed!
Great show, I question alot of the Bible. I'm certain about Jesus and his life and resurrection and the shroud cements that conviction, at least that doesn't have to be interpreted!
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This reminds me about something connected with jesus christ Crucify on the cross. When I used to live a missouri There is a thorn tree Ghost storms Remind me about the lord And they around the tree will you can put it on someone's head . So that reminds me what the lord did for us
I belong to the Holy Face Association and am deeply devoted to the Holy Face of Jesus that comes from the Shroud of Turin. I have my own linen Holy Face by my bed, like St. Thérèse. I also asked my Pastor if he would enshrine the beautiful framed Image that the Association will send free of charge to Churches that agree to enshrine it. I have seen the good fruits from having the Holy Face Image in our Church.
I love how you bash one dating technique because it doesn't show what you want while heaping praise on another dating technique without noting it's rather plausible critics. Good critical thinking guys.
@@CatholicTalkShow I think you're talking about yourselves there. The refutations you present of the studies from the 80s don't seem to be based on actual evidence, more wishful thinking (there are arguments to be presented which are more plausible but you didn't mention those), while there are very strong criticisms of the spectroscopy study done in the 2010s which you seem to neglect to mention. So sorry, who'd suffering from confirmation bias here?
Look deeper ! The truth has always been hidden in plain sight! These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph. He is real ! God bless you 🙏ruclips.net/video/Ogr1ttluJl4/видео.html
i feel sorry that priest . he sadi in one of the clips that at a get together with these 2 guys at a gathering, they were all laughing. he said he laughed so hard he cried. he said it was so nice to just relax and laugh and Reset for a while. I am happy to see him so happy. Being a priest isnt easy I suppose . too many things to do due to the lack of vocations for the priesthood
Yes. He is an amazing human being and Great representative of The Catholic Church. You can tell, he is a Sincere Believer and they are getting harder to find - like Bishop Strickland.
How does this hypothesis of a crown of thrones match with the crown of thrones held by Norte Dame....or at least until the recent fire held at Norte Dame.
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Decadessss ago, the Shroud made an extraordinarily rare tour and I was able to view it with my own eyes and feel it’s intense energies and I completely fell into such a deep immersive state of love and utter awe.. there was no rush either.. I mean obviously we moved along but everyone in line allowed for several minutes of adoration… it was so moving…
I visited Turin, Italy in 2012. I was able to go to the cathedral where the shroud of Christ is housed. They showed pictures of the shroud. Peace & awe overwhelmed me as I stood looking at it. There was absolutely no doubt in my mind that this was the cloth that covered our Lord in the tomb. I thank God for allowing me to witness and view this sacred relic.
Started crying when I saw the Shroud.
Last year I was on a pilgrimage to Rome and Turin with my church community and because my community is supported locally by the Bishop of Turin we were allowed to see it, although we stood in line for many hours as other communities were there too. I went on my knees before it and I clearly remember gazing into Our Lords eyes....... Such peace and stillness radiated from His Holy Face. You could see He had found peace at the end of his torment at Golgatha. It was as if you could almost hear him whisper “It is finished”.
@@johnbrowne3950 Let me make it clear that no Real Catholic worships the Shroud of Turin or the god of this world, so all those are your very own, hateful lies, a straw man argument. It is your hateful screeds, three of them in a row, as if your prejudice and hatred were not satisfied so you kept coming back, that are demonic. I am a former Protestant now Catholic, and I know very well that the large majority of Protestant and/or liberal anti-Catholic bashers and attack dogs are totally guilty of those very things that they accuse Catholics of.
Your argument about "it has been proven to be fake" is not scientific, as non-Catholic scientists have come forward to reveal how the recent testing was done in such a way as to "prove" it to be fake. No "medieval forger" would have ever gone against things like the traditional nails in the palm of the hands or against a ring of thorns instead of a full helmet of thorns, etc, etc. like the Shroud does. A fake using fake science only proves how fake he/she is. That's demonic.
@@johnbrowne3950 Your hateful screeds reveal YOU yourself were never born again, do not have Jesus in you and remain totally dead in the foulness of your sins, which comes out through your mouth and writings. "From the abundance of the heart (sin in your case) the mouth speaks". Like the Pharisees of Jesus time, you are a modern day Pharisee, hiding behind the caricaturization and demonization of the Catholic Church.
Your distortions and caricatures only reveal your cultic, fanatical mentality and that you are a walking caricature yourself. You desperately NEED the Catholic Church as a human shield to distract away and hide your despicable sins. You worship with bended knee at the latrine of your own sins while calling yourself "Christian". There's sinners, of course, even some horrific ones among the Catholics, but the total satanic arrogance of Protestants like you, no different than the most extreme radical Leftists atheists, that convinced me to leave Protestantism and look for God's absolute best, sinners on both sides notwithstanding.
@@johnbrowne3950 I do not have to respond to the same old and recycled accusations that have been already answered so very well for centuries and waste my time with you. You are a Protestant Leftist using the same Saul Alinsky tactics as those that are trying to destroy the USA and all Christianity. You are trying to involve me in a tar baby tactics were it never ends because, as you PROJECTED so well of yourself, you are part of a cult, where there's no possibility for dialogue and no place for Authentic Truth.
If you were "Catholic" in the past it was totally in name only. Now you are just a lowly accuser, cowardly hiding behind your accusations and posing as someone with authority while you have none. Who derives false authority from incessant, obsessive, vicious, false accusations? Satan The Accuser, and you are his child. Do not worry, you will not need Purgatory, if you keep doing what you are doing, you are going Express Mail to Hell.
@@johnbrowne3950 How is it that all "Catholics" leaving the Catholic Church have the exact, same, stereotypical, old story about never ever seeing a Bible or not being told anything ever about it? Because it's a false story a total, verifiable fraud! The Catholic Mass alone is centered around 3 Bible readings (Old Testament, a Psalm and the New Testament) and the celebration of the Eucharist.
Were was your mind and heart when those readings were read with great reverence and discussed, however imperfectly, by the preaching of the Priest? I was born and lived in a very old fashioned Catholic town and knew the Bible early on. No one was doing this often repeated, stupid Kabuki theater drama of hiding it from me. You Biblio-latry, your worship of the Bible as God, does nor honor the Bible at all, and has created the monstrosity today of more than 25 to 35,000 different Protestant denominations (depending on how you count them). Which of those 35K has the true interpretation? Even legitimate Protestant Pastors like Ray Comfort expose the huge hypocrisy. Protestant denominations have an average duration of 200 years, the Catholic Church is 2,000 years old. Keep dreaming in that church that has inflated your ego so obviously much, you will wake up to an eternal nightmare.
@@johnbrowne3950 You are just a vacuum-sealed, cult-minded fanatic, full of the lust of self-righteousness. The greatest Protestant Pastor I've ever seen, late D. James Kennedy, NEVER wasted a second with anti-Catholic bigotry.
He preached only JESUS and not fanatical self-righteous cultism like you. You can only fight the Catholic Church by demonizing it, by LYING about it. All you listed here are LIES. You are a psychopathic liar hiding behind a Christian label. Indeed, are you one of those predators of your own flock and desperately need to hide that? Our predators have been exposed, what about yours? That's all I wanted the commenters and readers here to see, that you can't even make one sentence without lying. Like the Pharisees, You are child of the Father of Lies. My work here is done.
The firefighter who saved the Shroud later converted to Catholicism. He described a Supernatural feeling providing him the strength to save the Shroud
Was he a protestant before that?
@@adamclark1972uk No, I believe he was an atheist or a secular non practicing Catholic
Start your shows with a prayer by Father. We all need to do that.
Start and end the show with a prayer and blessing 🙏🏻
Child of God yes sprayer for all children molested by catholic priests.
Jesus said call no man on earth father..
@@jccornerstone JC Cornerstone: And God said to Moses, "Honor Your Father and Your Mother". Which father was God referring to? And what do you call your dad?
@@jccornerstone yes, and call no man teacher. So how to we call all the fathers and teachers in the world? Read the scriptures in context.
Father Ryan,I'm a Catholic from the Philippines,I really liked your program about Jesus.I learned a lot,I felt that I'm bless.Thanks a lot 2 father's.God bless you both!I'm 76 years old now.
They displayed a replica of the Shroud at the World's Fair in New Orleans in 1984. It was so lifelike it was eerie. I was volunteering at the Vatican Museum, the exhibit showing tapestries that were by artists that are household name now, Reubens, Renoirs, on and on. They had galleries with curved walls, in order to best display them. I do needlepoint and crosstitch, so it was particularly touching to me. Still gives me goosebumps. I had a hardbound catalog of the exhibit, until Hurricane Katrina. It's no longer available, thirty years on. Losing my books and other ephemera I had collected, and my pet parrot were the hardest things to lose. The couple that helped my sister gut the place thought I could have opened my own library.
I never talk about this, it's still very painful to me. Thanks for hearing me out.
I am so sorry about your pet and books. My husband died suddenly 7 months ago at 48 years old and I had to leave my books when I moved. I got to take my quilting books and a few others. It was heartbreaking. One day I hope I get to meet you in heaven. God Bless You All the Days of Your life.
A millisecond of 40 billion volts…….we’re talking RESURRECTION!! Thank you so much for this inspiring video.
I saw The Shroud of Turin after the Eucharist today! First time watching! Love it!
All my life I have been a skeptic about the Shroud, even as a Catholic, but this episode has convinced me that it is authentic. Especially the part about the spectroscopy and pollen identification. There is certainly a host of anti-Catholics that will say many things to the contrary, and the Wikipedia page certainly mentions their arguments a lot more, but I for one have now looked at both sides and have come to the conclusion that the Shroud is authentic. Great show!
Shroud is a Witness to Resurrection. Nuff said.
Skepticism arises when all the fact are not reviewed analyzed that is accepted and dismissed. Many many years ago when I become aware of the first photograph I accepted as a true relic. When a man that liked taking pictures with a new gadget saw something that he did not expect too appear in the glass plate he realized that his camera solved a mystery that was two thousand years old-no human hands paintings, no paints prepared by humans hands. Over the years as scientific instruments evolved they all added to the mysterious appearance on the cloth. After the first photograph no one could imagine what else the image could reveal as no one could conceive what new equipments would be invented. So, one that has a very open mind becomes a believer in the cloth of Turin.
There's a great documentary on The Shroud..they also did dna testing and it shows that the blood is from 1 human woman..(The Blessed Virgin Mary) but no Dna from the father...Truly amazing!!
Also there's evidence of a nanosecond of an event horizon that "scorched" His image into the cloth....
Look deeper the truth is always hidden in plain sight !
These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph.
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@@debraellis7163 The Holy Shroud of Turin captures it instant of the resurrection the very moment the doorway was opened to eternity and reveals layer upon layer of the truth of life !
These 3 men of God literally KNOCKED IT OUT OF THE PARK with this program!
What a powerful episode. I have always believed in the Shroud. Thanks for sharing the pictures it adds to the experience.
Another great show! I've been to the church where the Shroud is kept. Unfortunately, it wasn't one of the years when it was taken out. It was still an amazing experience to be there! You guys need to make some t shirts - I really want one! God bless you all!
I was fortunate to listen to a talk by one of the scientists who did the 1978 study of the Shroud. Even though the carbon dating was off, he felt that it was tainted and the truth would reveal the true dating sometime in the future. He said all other results pointed to the Shroud coming from the middle east. Shows all the marks of the terrible crucifixion of Our Lord. The scourging Our Lord took for our sins....Lord have mercy on our souls.
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It is a work of art.
Proven Otherwise. Do your research rather than Wishful Thinking.
@@sirstephen9825 Prove it is just a piece of Art. Scientists have proven you wrong.
Favorite episode. I've watched it several times. God bless you guys!
Thank you for covering this! What an amazing topic!
As you all may know the Shroud is on view every 10 years in Turin. The last time it was on view me and my family were fortunate to be able to attend and see it. To be in its presence literally brought tears to my eyes. For me it is the real deal.
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There was a serious error made by the testers when they extracted their sample from a part of the Shroud that was cinched in a fire in the middle ages, was then mended with cotton and dyed to match the linen. That was discovered not too long ago by one of the original testers who was diagnosed with terminal cancer, but was able to complete his test and establish the record.
The Shroud is real!
Check this video.
Shroud: New discoveries
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Look deeper the truth has always been hidden in plain sight !
These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph.
He is real ! God bless you 🙏ruclips.net/video/Ogr1ttluJl4/видео.html
@Andy LH Your wrong John 20:7 speaks of the linen cloth in the empty tomb. Don't you think this would of been the disciples treasure and protected and hidden from view. Only to come to light in the centuries after. The Shroud of Turin is the burial cloth of a man brutally murdered with all the tortured wound marks of a man crucified and believed to be that of Jesus Christ. Unexplainable by modern science to this day. Many research scientist from all over the world have studied this cloth for decades. Check the S.T.U.R.P investigation you may have your eyes opened to the truth.
@Andy LH these images are revealed through digital photography look and you will see remnants of or entire images layer upon layer of the truth of life.
@Andy LH I hope that gives you comfort on your death bed. There was an analysis of the shroud some years ago that dated fibres to the middle ages but that could have been on of the many repairs done on it during its life. Science has proved that the image is of a photographic negative imprinted onto the cloth at least a thousand years before photography was invented - how? Also it is thought that the power to achieve this impregnation would be of a mini nuclear fission taking place yet the cloth was not burned. There is more than you know at work here but I think your prejudice blinds you to faith? God bless you.
God allowed the shroud to be found as a testimony of Jesus's Resurrection. The amount of light in a nano second is only indicative that NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD. When he wants to show us meagre humans who HE is HE does things that defy the laws of nature. Like Jesus own virginal birth.
Someday I hope you will do a show about the face cloth of Veronica, where she wiped the face of our Lord as He carried His cross. That cloth still exists, and the markings on it match both the face burial cloth and the Shroud of Turin. That cloth was exceptional cloth, made of mother of pearl, and only 1 person in the world now knows how to make that cloth, that's how special and rare it was and is, and what a respectful, belief-filled act Veronica did, to use the most expensive cloth then and now to wipe Jesus' face. How reverential.
One of my favorite topics. Thank you for starting my day with all these thoughts that reinforce my Faith.
I am a Evangelical Christian and a firm believer that the Shroud is the burial cloth of Jesus. I've been studying it intensely over the past couple of months but I've always had a fascination with it when I first saw it as a teenager in a magazine. From an evangelicalism standpoint many who are not Catholics do not know that much about the Shroud and it's important because it is largely looked at as a Catholic Relic how many non-catholics either do not know about the Shroud or dismiss it as just another Relic that the Catholic Church worships. Maybe it's time to pull back on denominational stove pipes to ensure that the Shroud can be used as an Evangelical tool to share Jesus and his gospel with everyone and that they too may come to know the truth of the gift of salvation that our father has given us through his sons atonement on the cross
I'm learning so much from you guys. Thank you 😊
Many years ago, I hurt my hand by pulling out a weed from the base of a rose bush. My hand connected with the rose trunk, and a thorn stabbed the top of my thumb with a lot of force. It bled quite a bit, but the pain was what shocked me. It was excruciating. That single stab, so horribly painful, was nothing compared with what Our Lord Jesus endured, just from the crown of thorns. The crown was more a cap of thorns than a circlet. Therefore, there were more thorns than we usually imagine, and it probably needed to be bashed onto the head.
So awful to think about how painful it must have been. Whenever I have a pain I think about what Our Lord went through and realize what I have is nothing.
Much of the scientific evidence and mysteries surrounding the Shroud are explained quite well, and quite convincingly I might add, in the "Urantia Book". That is if anyone cares to even bother looking into it. Every aspect of the anomalies that are related to the Shroud are very easy to understand, once one becomes edified as to the nature of what actually happened in the tomb on that Easter morning. It's all very logical as to the reasons for what we find on the Shroud after reading about the true sequence of events that took place.
@Commendatore You don't have to read the entire book, all 2096 pages. It has a separate section on the life of Jesus, and the part that speaks about his Assention is the portion you need to read. If you are truly interested bin finding out about what happened, then read it straight from the book. It describes it better than I could, and you owe it to yourself to get it first hand, anyway.
That is really far from catholic
@@nemgyuri Do you actually understand the meaning of the word 'catholic'?
Really. What do you know about Catholicism. The True Church that Christ founded where Real Miracles are Normal!@@nemgyuri
I didn't know some of these. Incredible!
The fact about the pollen is really fascinating. Good podcast
I will be going with our church to the Holy Land this year and cannot wait to experience and visit all the holy sites, including The Church of the Holy Sepulchre. Thank you for your excellent shows.
Thank you for this program. FYI, Oberammergau is not in Italy but Germany, and the Passion Play has been performed every 10 years going back to 1634 when it was vowed to God for being spared the Bubonic plague.
Here are some facts about Lichen. I was born 15 kilometers from Lichen (Licheń). About this rock with Holly Mary imprints, there is no evidence of authenticity of feet imprints. It is rather man-made artefact to remind The Holy Mother appeared three times to a shepherd Michal Sikatke in Grablin woods. When I was 9 or 10 my mother told me that stone was made because Mary’s feet imprint appear on the ground and people kept step on it, and every morning appeared again, and again. I don’ know it this is true, but I was maybe 10 when she told me that story. BTW, great Show!!!
“The first appearance of Mary took place after the battle of Lipsk in 1813. Among those armies taking part in this bloody battle were the so called Polish „legiony”(Legions), who suffered horrendous casualties. One of these soldiers, Tomasz Kłossowski, a smith by profession, was badly injured and sought the intercession of Our Holy Mother asking for safe deliverance. Overcome by suffering he saw an apparition in the form of Mary moving around the battlefield, which promised him help and committed him to searching for her image. After many years of searching the miraculously saved legionary found an image depicting the form of Mary that he had seen on the battlefield at Lipsk. Finding the image near to Czestochowa he brought it back to his hometown of Izabelin where he paid specific devotion to it. After a number of years Tomasz Kłossowski brought the image to the Grablin woods, situated 3km away. He then housed the image in a small shrine nailed to a pine tree.
In 1850 the site at which the image was kept was swept by apparitions. The Holy Mother as depicted in the image housed in the little shrine, appeared three times to a shepherd Michal Sikatke, through whom she called all people to penance, prayer and conversion. The miraculous nature of the image was further enhanced two years later during a cholera epidemic which wiped out the local population. The events linked to the epidemic were predicted by The Mother of God through the shepherd Mikolaj Sikatke in 1850. The infirm and endangered populace began to gather at the apparition site, before the image housed in the small shrine on the pine tree in the nearby woods. Faith, fervent prayer and honour to Our Lady brought health and necessary graces to the local people. The image began to gain more devotions, and its fame began to spread to all the nearby villages. In view of this rise in devotion and also due to the images safety it was moved to the local Parish church of Lichen in 1852. From that moment the image has been honoured with specific unceasing devotion. The faithful come to ask for graces needed for them and their loved ones through the intercession of Our Most Holy Mother.”
Would love to visit Italy and see everything BUT the Shroud is very special to me...if you have an xray copy of it and you shine a very bright light behind it the divine mercy comes out of it...it was found while moving the copy in front of a window with the sun shining in at the shrine of the divine mercy in the Ozark Mountains...it is absolutely breathtaking to see thus occur
Please explain briefly how you got an XRay. Facts and Exact detail are more important now than ever before. Not just a personal account if this is true.
The best show I've seen so far! Fantastic gentlemen keep up the good work!
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I believe the Shroud of Turin is real. I’m not Catholic and it doesn’t have to be real for me to be Christian but I believe it. It’s fascinating.
IT IS 100% real Look deeper !
These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph.
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If it is Real. And I Believe it is. God will have a Special Beautiful Mansion waiting for you because you accept the facts and the Truth.
Love watching this show! I feel like there are so many little tidbits that I feel like I should have heard in a homily by now but haven't! One request, whenever you reference a painting, image, other resource that can be found online, will you please put a link to it in the description? For example, around 8:30 you talk about what is likely the first in-person painting of the Shroud. Can you link to it?
Here you go: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pray_Codex
Also there are the 15 St. Bridget prayers said for 365 days. It can be found in the Pieta Prayer Book.
Turin is in the northwest in Savoy near the French border. Venice is in the northeast at the tip of the Adriatic ( closer to Trieste and SLOVENIA).
All accurate, except Savoy is in France, Turin is in Piemonte (piedmont) Italy.
The Passionspiele (Passion Play) of Oberammergau, Germany, is fascinating. It began as gratitude to God for sparing the town from the Black Death. Only natives of the town are permitted to perform on or off stage. (In 2010, they did have a non-native camel on stage, and were careful to point this out.) The play is always on an open-air stage, subject to adverse weather conditions. The Passion play is now performed every ten years, from June to October. This year, because of the Covid-19 pandemic, the play has been postponed until 2022.
I was listening to this while doing a little dry fire weapons training and they told of the firefighter carrying the impossibly heavy case containing the Shroud and it became as light as a child and he felt like the do.key carrying our Lord I just inexplicably burst into sobs like a sword through my heart. I love the Shroud but I've never been hardcore Shroudie.
24:33 UV The image was created from an explosion of light that lasted for less than a millisecond, yet was more powerful than any light source created by humanity in our world history -- 40 billion watts. Edit: And this has now been verified.
@Andy LH I am not the researcher making the claim. But I found it 'noteworthy' and worthy of further investigation. That is why I added the 24:33 which marked the point where the information was presented. Are you familiar with any means to test this assertion?
@Andy LH I believe the researcher's name is Barrie Schwortz. He is a retired technical photographer. And he was a member of the original 1978 Shroud of Turin research team.
@Andy LH When he started he was actually a cynical skeptic and very much doubted the authenticity of the image. If one had asked me years ago my opinion of the image, I would have likewise said it was a clever forgery. But more recent research would seem to indicate there there is something else going on. Certainly there are evidences in the shroud with date it to a much earlier time. So now I am not so sure what to think, but I am leaning in the direction this may be the real image of the risen Christ. I would encourage you to watch the video and analyze it for yourself. The part regarding the coins in the eyes was shocking and would require a level of sophistication that, in my opinion, would probably not be readily accessible to artists of medieval times.
@Andy LH Thank you. I will watch it later tonight.
@Andy LH Thank you for sharing the link. There was a considerable amount of good counter-information in the link you provided. And I found the conversation to Pope Clement VII to be particularly noteworthy. It is something that should be fairly considered when judging the validity. My own personal conviction is that some are too quick to conflate "unexplained" with "miraculous". I suspect this may have played a part in the reduction of certain saints to more of a local status. But I do believe in miracles. And I do suspect there is still something more to this shroud than meets the eye. So far the shroud seems to have defied a clear explanation as to how it was produced. This doesn't mean there will never be a natural explanation found. But it does seem to be some kind of unique flash-point manufacture which is unusually sophisticated for a medieval artist.
I believe. I find it difficult when believers say "if it is true".
Pls make a video on the correct postures during Mass. For example when to kneel, join hands, raise hands.....Thanks
I'm not sure if you are asking because you aren't sure, or if you just want to educate others.
The short answer is... kneel after the Hosanna acclamation and the Lamb of God (kneel because that is when jesus is present in the eucharist).
Stand when the priest says "pray" (Jews in Jesus's time stood up while praying).
The mass is beautiful. I read a book on the order of mass and why we do things. Very interesting. It made me realize how beautiful the mass truly is.
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I am proud of this shroud and is true for me
Can you please do a show about Veronica’s Veil?
What bloodtype is on the Shroud? I had seen elsewhere that it was AB negative.
Yes AB negative the SAME blood type of several Eucharistic Miracles, when a consecrated host becomes flesh and blood. There are 126 Church-approved Eucharistic Miracles
I watched from other videos saying that it is AB +
Whenever I pray I picture the Holy Face of Jesus Christ in my intellect ,will ,memory and imagination the faculties of our soul.Amen.
The shroud of Turin is the true Holy Face of our Lord JESUS.
Guys thank you so much for all you guys do its awesome. Just wondering if you guys could ask Brant pitre on the show you guys would defiantly kick it off
Thank you for using good microphones and we can hear you very well. I just tried to watch another video and the sound was terrible.
Wish you would show more pictures as you teach.
Why no mention of the holographic effect of the Shroud? Surely that is one of the most mind blowing factors.
I agree. Petrus Soons did an excelent job with the 3D image. Mind blowing
It's actually very simple to do
@Enzo 1965 the so called holographic effect is just that the intensity of the "color" is proportional to the distance of the object, that means that is like making a chiaroscuro, but you press the pencil/brush when the represented surface is more distant and press less when it's near. In the case of the shroud you could do viceversa, but it really depends how they achieved that result. (You can Google modelled drawing to see something similar, even though the works are not impressing) But to summarize saying that "it contains 3d information" it's just big words, every well made chiaroscuro contains 3d information, this is how our brain sees things in 3d, with shadows an binocular vision, you can easily take a Caravaggio paint and make it a 3d hologram using the shadows he made.
These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph.
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@@guzelguzel6481 look deeper!
These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph.
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Thank you my Lord and my God 🙏💗
Amen.
i found the insight into linen very interesting something highly overlooked
How'd you guys get AC/DC to do your theme anyway?
Thanks for ur reply on the postures. The specific posture during praying Our Lord's prayer during the Eucharistic service is wat I was trying to specify. We stand and pray, but shud our hands b joined or raised up. Wud appreciate ur response.Thanks
Lorna :
Hands joined, head bowed, eyes down, speak softly.
Ignore all around you, you are praying to God.
DON'T hold hands like kids in a nursery school!
DON'T wave your arms around in the air.
DO look for a Latin Mass and this problem won't come up.
#WorldsFirstPhotocopy ..after working as a print technician and understanding how photoconductors transfer images onto media via lasers or thermal ribbon printers.. either way you need light and heat to create that image, but the laser point refinement of that image speaks volumes for the intensity of that light that rendered that image.
There's a great documentary on The Shroud..they also did dna testing and it shows that the blood is from 1 human woman..(The Blessed Virgin Mary) but no Dna from the father...Truly amazing!!
Also there's evidence of a nanosecond of an event horizon that "scorched" His image into the cloth....
This same docu,shows the the original carbon dating was inaccurate because it was taken from a repaired part of the cloth after it was in a fire in one of the centuries..
@@sunny2shoes ..source the documentary, that sounds worth the watch.
Rebecca Phillips go to, shroud.com (Barrie Schwortz)
What's the name of the plant/weed they used for the crown of thrones?
"The first born of the dead" sure is an astounding title i don't recall ever hearing before!
Thank you for posting this video.... Never heard of "Spectroscopy" until today, learn something new today.....
A lot of laboratory tests are read due to spectroscopy... light passing through the serum or plasma reacting with a known substrate...
Super interesting show 👍
I think about the scene at the end of the Passion where the burial cloth lights up as OUR LORDs body is Risen.
The Holy Shroud of Turin First captures the instant of the resurrection the very moment the doorway was opened to eternity and reveals layer upon layer of the truth of life. Look deeper!
These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph.
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Loved the firefighter story.
Another amazing episode! You guys keep getting better! A question: Only the Jesus bobblehead keeps nodding. Why?
He agrees with us! LOL
Please invite the Catholic theologian, Dr Taylor Marshall, onto your show. He has a new book out that is #1 in the Catholic section. It's called "Infiltration:The Plot To Destroy The Church From Within". It's about the liberalism and modernism that's infiltrated the Church.
“The” relic. Thank You Dear Lord...🙏☦️
The miracle of miracles !
Look deeper!
These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph.
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Hallow Catholic talk show Good morning God bless. 🙏❤️
Wonderful
Very interesting.
24:58. Yes, and furthermore, this radiation had to have eminated from within the center of Jesus' body outward all directions to produce the image on the Shroud.
Would love some references for the info you mentioned on the electromagnetism found during the restoration of the Holy Sepulchre. It's very difficult to locate the actual data and scientific analysis. Most of what I've found is commentary and indirect references. I've always loved the Shroud!
Yes. There are a lot of us that are not afraid of Scientific Facts, Give us exact References from Scientific Studies.
I believe Jordan Peterson - unlike Joe Rogan - is Sincere in searching for Christian Truth. His wife has already converted to Catholicism. I think Jordan is very close. He is just trying to "Get all his Ducks in a Row" as I suspect he would say. Eventually, he will convert at least to Christianity and wholly commit himself to it. Joe Rogan is to scared at this point.
Nice work guys, love the show. It disheartens me though, in light of the carbon dating result, to so often hear defenders of its authenticity to go right to the technical aspects of why the dating of the shroud was probably inaccurate. To challenge anyone using the carbon dating result as "proof of forgery", one need only compare it to the carbon dating result of the Sudarium, then apply common sense. If both carbon datings were fairly accurate, anyone purporting forgery would have to build a scenario of how the unknown crafty 13th century artist got a hold of a bloody cloth from some 550 years earlier, taken out of a tomb for some reason, pulled it from another country, sampled the blood type, matched it to his own unique artistic creation (using the blood of a tortured man of course, as it's still red due to the high bilirubin content), then returned the head cloth, then traveled back home to work on the remaining image. Since some of the blood has caked off, it revealed white linen underneath, so the image went on after the blood. If this is how it happened, then this is not an artist; he must have been a god himself. Or are we to believe that Jesus died and was resurrected in three different centuries? The Shroud being authentic and the datings being inaccurate is the only logical deduction left standing.
That carbon dating test was flawed from the start check out the STURP findings.
Jim Baron Excellent points! Thanks for sharing.
@SD4FR1J13GL C5HD1GF fiction? He died for you to deny him...quit denial. God is real...
@SD4FR1J13GL C5HD1GF Made up? Are u in denial? Oh I see now you are atheist or satanic? You have no power dude... Try... Prove he was a lie...
I wish Joe Rogan had the courage to have some experts on this as guest on his show. I can tell Christianity makes him uncomfortable probably because he is afraid of the truth. Great show!
Oberammergau, it's the town in Germany where the passion play is done every 10 years.
Amazing discussion my beloved brothers........ Keep progressing.... We are listening to you... And growing in faith in Christ and Christ alone.....
I really want the shroud to be authentic. I go back and forth on it. In the interview, it was claimed that the piece used for carbon dating was from a repair. I’ve been researching the shroud for awhile and have never heard this claim. Is there a source I can use to verify?
Sure! Here are some:
www.researchgate.net/publication/2601114_Evidence_For_The_Skewing_Of_The_C-14_Dating_Of_The_Shroud_Of_Turin_Due_To_Repairs
www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/03/30/shroud-turin-display/2038295/
www.academia.edu/40272184/The_Invisible_Reweave_and_Other_Challenges_to_the_Turin_Shrouds_C_14_Medieval_Dating_A_Review
Can you provide sources or places that document these?
Christopher Sabbatino www. shroud.com
@@williamtate6899 thank you
Every seminar on the shroud
They have the original shroud and they have 2 very realistic photocopies. The original is in Rome. First copy is somewhere else in Italy. And the 2nd copy is at Kennric-Glennon Seminary in St. Louis Missouri, USA
I've seen both copies but I've never seen the original
great show
I think they keep it hidden because of John 20:29. Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen, and have believed."
There have been tons of verified miracles since Apostolic Times. For the Multiple millions of Unbelievers. Many Eucharistic Miracale and others like Tht Fatima Miracles and the Lourds Miracles. You will never be accepting if you turn your back on Objective Facts to preserve your faith in a Man Made Position invented 500 years ago. Or last week!
There is a replica of the Shroud at the Shrine of the Most Blessed Sacrament in Hanceville, AL.
Why do we still bother about "Proof of Death" when we all know "He rose from Death" and the message is LOUD & CLEAR?. Don't we still believe He knocks on our hearts? To come in? (Rev 3:20) Dead people don't do that.
Hallo Ryan SCHEEL I don’t know what is a shroud ….fr paragon delecrosse?
Kindly discuss and share the Our Lady of Fatima and her warnings for the people's last secret of it.
For preparations of faith
Venice is north west?
As a Catholic, I do think it's important to not hinge your faith on something like the Shroud. While I applaud the speakers, and have enjoyed listening, its important to note too that the church does not recognize the Shroud as a Relic, but merely an icon. This doesn't mean that it isn't worth considering, but be careful not to hinge your faith on it there are a lot of questions and scientific analysis that raises heavy questions not discussed in the video.
The Shroud proves your faith. Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man in the Shroud is Jesus Christ = (Catholic Jesus) ruclips.net/video/IUFehRFeAMk/видео.html
Oh man, that answers why people with stigmata have wounds on their hands. I knew that Christ's had to be as well.
(7:43) speaking of the early Church Codex, ancient Edessa city archives include letters between King Abgar (of Edessa) and Jesus of Nazareth. King Abgar, who was suffering from arthritis and leprosy, had heard about Jesus' powers as a healer and wrote to Jesus, asking him to come and heal him.
Eusebius quotes in full two letters, one from Abgar to Jesus and the second Jesus’ reply, which explained:
“I must first complete here all for which I was sent” and then “be taken up to him who sent me,” but afterward “I will send to you one of my disciples to heal your suffering, and give life to you and those with you.”
furthermore, a Vatican Library codex (number 5696, folio 35; twelfth century) says:
“If indeed you desire to look bodily upon my face, I send you a cloth on which know that the image not only of my face, but of my whole body had been divinely transformed.”
who could possibly read that and _not_ think they're talking about the Shroud of Turin?!
btw, when the disciples finally arrived w/ the Shroud, King Abgar was instantly healed!
I saw the Shroud in 2015. It was sad to see the disrespect of the people while we were doing prayers.
15:20 uh, Venice is in the north-east of Italy.
misspoken. I pointed the right direction tho... 🤷
Great show, I question alot of the Bible. I'm certain about Jesus and his life and resurrection and the shroud cements that conviction, at least that doesn't have to be interpreted!
The passion play is in Bavaria in Oberammergau. This year is a play
Such a beautiful gift to the world. Now, is it just me or does anyone else see that at the time stamp 19:24, only the Jesus bobble head is moving? :o)
Oh my God Michelle. It's like he's agreeing with what's being said! Great catch.
@@elizabethbarberis9957 The table was bumped around 16:47
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I like Fr. Pagano's beard, I have mine trimmed like his now. 👋
This reminds me about something connected with jesus christ Crucify on the cross. When I used to live a missouri There is a thorn tree Ghost storms Remind me about the lord And they around the tree will you can put it on someone's head . So that reminds me what the lord did for us
I belong to the Holy Face Association and am deeply devoted to the Holy Face of Jesus that comes from the Shroud of Turin. I have my own linen Holy Face by my bed, like St. Thérèse. I also asked my Pastor if he would enshrine the beautiful framed Image that the Association will send free of charge to Churches that agree to enshrine it. I have seen the good fruits from having the Holy Face Image in our Church.
Guys, Torino is on the West (North) and the mending of the Shroud was done in France - yes, by the nuns. Interesting talk,
Jesus is still the only one bobbing his head. Did you guys put a motor in that one?
WOW, good eye.
I thought it was just me
if you keep watching when there are different topics
Jesus head continues and another will start.
Very interesting
@@MrsJanice45 Oh wow!
I love how you bash one dating technique because it doesn't show what you want while heaping praise on another dating technique without noting it's rather plausible critics. Good critical thinking guys.
Love how you accept one but refute the other to bolster you confirmation bias. :)
@@CatholicTalkShow I think you're talking about yourselves there. The refutations you present of the studies from the 80s don't seem to be based on actual evidence, more wishful thinking (there are arguments to be presented which are more plausible but you didn't mention those), while there are very strong criticisms of the spectroscopy study done in the 2010s which you seem to neglect to mention. So sorry, who'd suffering from confirmation bias here?
not mentioned in the dicussion is that turino is the seat of the house of savoy.
another relic to materialize the spiritual
Look deeper ! The truth has always been hidden in plain sight!
These images are revealed through digital photography in the Holy Shroud of Turin First image wears Crown like an Eagle Second is wearing a Crown of Righteousness Third image has HORNS in its head. There are many entities/demons/ truths revealed in this digital photograph.
He is real ! God bless you 🙏ruclips.net/video/Ogr1ttluJl4/видео.html
i feel sorry that priest . he sadi in one of the clips that at a get together with these 2 guys at a gathering, they were all laughing. he said he laughed so hard he cried. he said it was so nice to just relax and laugh and Reset for a while. I am happy to see him so happy. Being a priest isnt easy I suppose . too many things to do due to the lack of vocations for the priesthood
Yes. He is an amazing human being and Great representative of The Catholic Church. You can tell, he is a Sincere Believer and they are getting harder to find - like Bishop Strickland.
It's very delicate because it's so old need to keep it Lock i'm awake So it doesn't Fall apart.
How does this hypothesis of a crown of thrones match with the crown of thrones held by Norte Dame....or at least until the recent fire held at Norte Dame.
The town is Oberammergau, in southern Germany.