The big blue blob! LOL! I couldn't help but chuckle. I kinda' feel the same way about CSX even though I have a model CSX train. I miss the old Seaboard Coast Line days. Great history AC. Cheers, Dan
Just to the north of Kent Ohio likes the remains of the Erie yard. A public bike trail runs through it. There is the base of the water tower and the foundation of the roundhouse and turntable. It's definitely worth checking out in the fall when the brush is down.
Every time I visit my son in Binghamton, He lives on Front St. On the corner of Front St. and E. Clinton St there is a railroad bridge with the words LACKAWANNA RAILROAD Buffalo New York on it. That actually got me searching and viewing your video.
I grew up in Luzerne and the tracks were next to my house. Erie Lackawanna trains then. We lived there during Agnes. The tracks were a mess. Looked like a roller coaster. Love this video. Thanks.
Growing up in Binghamton NY, I remember seeing the most "Diesel Locomotive" looking paint scheme of the EL RR everywhere. The big grey locos looked so intimidating with their rectangular logo out in front. I remember seeing them disappear quickly into the "big blue blob" . The saddest sight was seeing a newly painted blue and white loco with the EL paint still visible underneath! After a while the Delaware and Hudson dominated the rails. Their engines looked so flashy and aggressive. It was hard not to be in awe. At least the sterile looking blue and white engines went away! Those memories were burned in a long time ago. After that NS was everywhere, then CSX. Now I see a lot of Susquehanna engines. It is nice that there is still rail activity but none of the other lines look as amazing as the grey, maroon and yellow beasts of the early 70's.
Seems like you have a bit of a soft spot for the EL. Glad to see that the legacy lives on, Bro. Cool shots from Steamtown! It's always cool to get close to historic equipment at railroad museums (hint hint). Stellar work as always!
Great collage, especially in the southern tier where the Erie Lackawanna dominated the southern tier main line. It was a double track from Binghamton to at least Hornell, trains almost every half hour, reminds me of when I was a kid watching them go by, uboats, sd45s, B and C 23 and 30-7's and some geeps. Let's not forget the F7s and F8s. Thank you for sharing this footage
My Grandfather built a home near the Harrison ave bridge in Scranton in the late sixties. As a kid around 10 years old I would run out to the bridge every time I heard a train . I remember seeing up to 5 GP 7s and 9s on the head end and 3 or 4 shoving to get East bound freights out of the valley . What a sight !!
Thanks for correctly noting the Erie Lackawanna's starting date: Monday, October 17, 1960! (I watched one RUclips posting that, incorrectly, states it's October 10th) This is the same day I was born, in a railroad boxcar (this freight car was Incorporated into a house and our Doctor was out of town so my Dad delivered me at home), a stones throw from GTW's Elsdon Yard. I've since fallen in ❤️ Love with the EL. Just purchased a variety of HO scale passenger equipment to model the Phoebe Snow and Lake Cities. Now at least I can ride it in minature and hopefully the Dining Car specials that are part of your presentation! Thanks again for your efforts!! Sincerely, David 😷 in Chicago 🇺🇸
I grew up in Parsippany NEW JERSEY roughly 4 miles from Denville and back in the early 70s we would ride our bicycles there. AND we fairly often would see CS-9 and maybe 1 ANOTHER FREIGHT train. AND OF COURSE the old LACKAWANNA M.U. CAR'S! AND one weekday we saw an Alco RS3 leading a Boonton line TRAIN onto the MAINLINE to Dover and possibly Port Morris. Ahh those were the days! I wish they were back again! But so much for the loved and sadly lost ERIE LACKAWANNA!
I grew up next door to the Erie railroad tracks in Lancaster, NY Seen everything from those dragons to a derailment, and the progression of locomotives. The Erie R.R runs parallel to the New York Central... A few blocks north. Freight trains entering Buffalo are full, while cars leaving Buffalo are empty because of little to no industry. Plus I hear all the most interesting stories from the old timers.
Rates were raised to get rid of unprofitable short distance freight hauls. Mail removed from passenger trains killed the trains. The whole private passenger industry went bankrupt in Oct 1967 when the final national mail routes were put on trucks. A leader in this program was General Motors. They just had derailed the cities, by buying streetcar companies, and scrapping them out and putting their buses on the streets. Half the riders bought cars, and buses had to be replaced more often than trolleys. $$$$ They paid road taxes at that time. (they don't today) those taxes and the taxes on railroads and their passenger tickets were used to build airports and highways.
I despised that "Big Blue blob" in 1976 because the EL disappeared into it. But, gradually I grew to respect and even like that ol Big Blue blob. Now I miss IT too!
Lol nicely said. I feel the same way. I despised conrail so greatly when I was younger but now that I just see csx everywhere I really miss their motive power and cool old school consists
Grew up just a few miles from the mainline of the LVRR going through South Plainfield NJ and saw many of the Snowbirds passing through at grade crossings there. My grandparents lived near Wilksbarre, PA so I got to see the Erie Lackawanna as well. I recommend steamtown in Scranton, PA and stay at the Raddison Lackawanna Hotel.......wow.......lots of Alco's running around.
I remember distinctly a pair of snowbirds doing at least 50 MPH at the tingley lane crossing in Edison, NJ. I was there with my dad and I was standing about 15 feet from the tracks.........the earth shook under me when they passed, the engineer waved and I’ll never forget those horns........wow what a moment.
I remember distinctly a pair of snowbirds doing at least 50 MPH at the tingley lane crossing in Edison, NJ. I was there with my dad and I was standing about 15 feet from the tracks.........the earth shook under me when they passed, the engineer waved and I’ll never forget those horns........wow what a moment.
I remember distinctly a pair of snowbirds doing at least 50 MPH at the tingley lane crossing in Edison, NJ. I was there with my dad and I was standing about 15 feet from the tracks.........the earth shook under me when they passed, the engineer waved and I’ll never forget those horns........wow what a moment.
Grew up enjoying the rail lines since I was a kid. Lucky enough to see the Milwaukee Road Hiawatha Passenger train. Then came the Door Line. Then IMRL. havent watched the tracks since I moved away. The UP ran more passenger trains through there than Milwaukee Road.? Thanks for your knowledge of railroad history. Stumbled across your channel and like your content
@@Trains21 Trains between Chicago and Milwaukee do not use the C&NW route which has all the population on it. They use the former bankrupt Milwaukee Road line that avoids the shore line cities and they do not stop at 6 Flags in Gunee, Il. Thousands go there on a weekend! No matter what the republicans have done to ruin the service it has had record breaking ridership. No business class, no population on the line, no free parking, no food service! No connections to Green Bay and the line to Madison was shut down by Governor Walker a vile republican.
"My dress, hat and gloves stay snowy white/ On the mighty road of anthracite." [old EL slogan used by 'Phoebe Snow'. Meaning that anthracite burned cleaner and produced less soot.]
Kent ohio remnants of the old Erie yards still stand. Turntable hole, roundhouse foundation, some signal equipment, and a water tower base. Bike trail is built on the right of way and uses some of the bridges.
A C, thank u for this vid.why u ask ? Because like all history here in the good old U S A E L HISTORY wont be forgotten either. Like the roads of the pass they are gone but never forgotten.THANK U A C. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA+++++++++++=
@@Trains21 That was of course before they moved out to southern California, and as a result of that I grew up similarly seeing the last days of Santa Fe and the first days of BNSF.
AC; The Erie-Lackawanna Railroad, years and years ago, had a right of way crossing into Indiana, from East to West. The trains and the right-of-way have been a long gone fixture for many decades. All there is to show of its prior existence is the remnants of a pathway corridor which still can be seen from satellite imaging. Here is a GOOGLE Maps image, which shows the path of the old right-of-way. The tracks have been removed, and what is remaining resembles a utility easement. This location is at the Intersection of U.S. Highway 224, and Indiana State Route 1, in Wells County Indiana, just south of the town of Ossian. The property between the Rail Right-Of-Way and the highway were 80 years ago, Sugar Beet Fields, and were cultivated by local and migrant farm labor LINK: www.google.com/maps/place/US-224+%26+IN-1,+Ossian,+IN+46777/@40.8306155,-85.1665119,544m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x881593130043850b:0x305a00d0779f1063!8m2!3d40.8300107!4d-85.1661793?hl=en
The Chicago, Fort Wayne and Eastern basically is what was left over after the Pennsylvania RR was merged with New York Central, and then it was known as the Penn-Central until Conrail had become the recipient. The CF&E, in the Decatur, Indiana vicinity services the Soybean processing business, with spur lines East to VanWert, and Delphos, Ohio, and to Fort Wayne Indiana.
That's another sad joke. The rights-of-way were "guaranteed" by law for one hundred years; yet, no sooner were the lines discontinued and tracks pulled up, cities sold off lots along the lines and businesses and homes sprung up on them.
lets not forget that the atsf was interested in the EL west end, but CR did not want the competition, so the west end gets ripped up. and people still to this day "miss" CR? not me, CR SUCKS.
Well Santa Fe did not want the commuter service. Plus the New York banks on Wall Street did not want a western railroad in the east. The super rich always win and they are invested and sell tax free highway and airport bonds. EL did not get a bailout, the bonds were due soon,. And unsiders made a killing on them when Con Job bought the east end of the railroad for 600 million dollars! EL really did not join CON JOB. they only sold the east end of the railroad to them. The west end was sold off for nothing. Unlimited highway and airport building killed it all.
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The big blue blob! LOL! I couldn't help but chuckle. I kinda' feel the same way about CSX even though I have a model CSX train. I miss the old Seaboard Coast Line days. Great history AC. Cheers, Dan
Thanks, Dan.. I miss the old roads too.. Cheers
Just to the north of Kent Ohio likes the remains of the Erie yard. A public bike trail runs through it. There is the base of the water tower and the foundation of the roundhouse and turntable. It's definitely worth checking out in the fall when the brush is down.
Cool.. Thanks, maybe I'll get a chance to do that.
Every time I visit my son in Binghamton, He lives on Front St. On the corner of Front St. and E. Clinton St there is a railroad bridge with the words LACKAWANNA RAILROAD Buffalo New York on it. That actually got me searching and viewing your video.
Thanks Ethan, that's awesome!
Needs repainting
I worked at the Shop in Marion Ohio. 1st job out of high school 1965.
Nice.. I'll bet that you have some great memories!
It was short lived though. Seems as though Uncle Sam wanted my services.
I grew up in Luzerne and the tracks were next to my house. Erie Lackawanna trains then. We lived there during Agnes. The tracks were a mess. Looked like a roller coaster. Love this video. Thanks.
No problem.. Hope you got some pics of it!
Growing up in Binghamton NY, I remember seeing the most "Diesel Locomotive" looking paint scheme of the EL RR everywhere. The big grey locos looked so intimidating with their rectangular logo out in front. I remember seeing them disappear quickly into the "big blue blob" . The saddest sight was seeing a newly painted blue and white loco with the EL paint still visible underneath! After a while the Delaware and Hudson dominated the rails. Their engines looked so flashy and aggressive. It was hard not to be in awe. At least the sterile looking blue and white engines went away! Those memories were burned in a long time ago. After that NS was everywhere, then CSX. Now I see a lot of Susquehanna engines. It is nice that there is still rail activity but none of the other lines look as amazing as the grey, maroon and yellow beasts of the early 70's.
I worked the track running a greaser cart and fix rail plates back in 1973 in Deposit NY
Cool
Seems like you have a bit of a soft spot for the EL. Glad to see that the legacy lives on, Bro. Cool shots from Steamtown! It's always cool to get close to historic equipment at railroad museums (hint hint). Stellar work as always!
Thanks, Bro.. Actually, I don't.. I didn't even know the EL.. Too young, but it was in my area so I feel a kindred connection to it.
Still....going👏🏽👏🏽👍🏽Good show there is so much good railroad history in your area!
Yes there is.. And there's a lot more of it to bring to you!! Thanks.
Great collage, especially in the southern tier where the Erie Lackawanna dominated the southern tier main line. It was a double track from Binghamton to at least Hornell, trains almost every half hour, reminds me of when I was a kid watching them go by, uboats, sd45s, B and C 23 and 30-7's and some geeps. Let's not forget the F7s and F8s. Thank you for sharing this footage
Thanks for watching DB.. I'm glad that you enjoyed it.
My Grandfather built a home near the Harrison ave bridge in Scranton in the late sixties. As a kid around 10 years old I would run out to the bridge every time I heard a train . I remember seeing up to 5 GP 7s and 9s on the head end and 3 or 4 shoving to get East bound freights out of the valley . What a sight !!
Thanks for correctly noting the Erie Lackawanna's starting date: Monday, October 17, 1960! (I watched one RUclips posting that, incorrectly, states it's October 10th) This is the same day I was born, in a railroad boxcar (this freight car was Incorporated into a house and our Doctor was out of town so my Dad delivered me at home), a stones throw from GTW's Elsdon Yard. I've since fallen in ❤️ Love with the EL. Just purchased a variety of HO scale passenger equipment to model the Phoebe Snow and Lake Cities. Now at least I can ride it in minature and hopefully the Dining Car specials that are part of your presentation! Thanks again for your efforts!! Sincerely, David 😷 in Chicago 🇺🇸
I grew up in Parsippany NEW JERSEY roughly 4 miles from Denville and back in the early 70s we would ride our bicycles there. AND we fairly often would see CS-9 and maybe 1 ANOTHER FREIGHT train. AND OF COURSE the old LACKAWANNA M.U. CAR'S! AND one weekday we saw an Alco RS3 leading a Boonton line TRAIN onto the MAINLINE to Dover and possibly Port Morris.
Ahh those were the days! I wish they were back again! But so much for the loved and sadly lost ERIE LACKAWANNA!
Thanks for the memories Tom!
@@Trains21 Your welcome TRAIN'S 21!
I grew up next door to the Erie railroad tracks in Lancaster, NY
Seen everything from those dragons to a derailment, and the progression of locomotives.
The Erie R.R runs parallel to the New York Central... A few blocks north.
Freight trains entering Buffalo are full, while cars leaving Buffalo are empty because of little to no industry. Plus I hear all the most interesting stories from the old timers.
Rates were raised to get rid of unprofitable short distance freight hauls. Mail removed from passenger trains killed the trains. The whole private passenger industry went bankrupt in Oct 1967 when the final national mail routes were put on trucks. A leader in this program was General Motors. They just had derailed the cities, by buying streetcar companies, and scrapping them out and putting their buses on the streets. Half the riders bought cars, and buses had to be replaced more often than trolleys. $$$$ They paid road taxes at that time. (they don't today) those taxes and the taxes on railroads and their passenger tickets were used to build airports and highways.
Thank you for your excellent video an d footage.
I like the " big blue blob" reference to the can opener..
Glad you enjoyed it
@@Trains21 It was a thrill around every curve!
I despised that "Big Blue blob" in 1976 because the EL disappeared into it. But, gradually I grew to respect and even like that ol Big Blue blob. Now I miss IT too!
Lol nicely said. I feel the same way. I despised conrail so greatly when I was younger but now that I just see csx everywhere I really miss their motive power and cool old school consists
@@danhoyland142 So true. For me it's NS. Sadly I don't see that turning around.
Thank-you so much. I have always found solace and comfort from these giants. Age 63 raised ny/nj-pa. (I hate football)
I loved it. Excellent video AC.
Thanks, Hans.. Gotta get over to your channel and see what's new.. Don't have time today!! LOL
Don't sweat it. You can only do so much.
Grew up just a few miles from the mainline of the LVRR going through South Plainfield NJ and saw many of the Snowbirds passing through at grade crossings there. My grandparents lived near Wilksbarre, PA so I got to see the Erie Lackawanna as well. I recommend steamtown in Scranton, PA and stay at the Raddison Lackawanna Hotel.......wow.......lots of Alco's running around.
For sure.. Thanks for the memories.
I remember distinctly a pair of snowbirds doing at least 50 MPH at the tingley lane crossing in Edison, NJ. I was there with my dad and I was standing about 15 feet from the tracks.........the earth shook under me when they passed, the engineer waved and I’ll never forget those horns........wow what a moment.
I remember distinctly a pair of snowbirds doing at least 50 MPH at the tingley lane crossing in Edison, NJ. I was there with my dad and I was standing about 15 feet from the tracks.........the earth shook under me when they passed, the engineer waved and I’ll never forget those horns........wow what a moment.
I remember distinctly a pair of snowbirds doing at least 50 MPH at the tingley lane crossing in Edison, NJ. I was there with my dad and I was standing about 15 feet from the tracks.........the earth shook under me when they passed, the engineer waved and I’ll never forget those horns........wow what a moment.
My man! First thing I see is the EL and Reading! My favs are the Lackawanna and Reading.
Grew up enjoying the rail lines since I was a kid. Lucky enough to see the Milwaukee Road Hiawatha Passenger train. Then came the Door Line. Then IMRL. havent watched the tracks since I moved away. The UP ran more passenger trains through there than Milwaukee Road.? Thanks for your knowledge of railroad history. Stumbled across your channel and like your content
Thanks Steven.. My father lives in Milwaukee and I wish that I had your memories.
@@Trains21 Trains between Chicago and Milwaukee do not use the C&NW route which has all the population on it. They use the former bankrupt Milwaukee Road line that avoids the shore line cities and they do not stop at 6 Flags in Gunee, Il. Thousands go there on a weekend! No matter what the republicans have done to ruin the service it has had record breaking ridership. No business class, no population on the line, no free parking, no food service! No connections to Green Bay and the line to Madison was shut down by Governor Walker a vile republican.
Wonderful!
Thanks, Bethany!
Well done my friend as always.
Thanks, Jay.. Where you been??
Love seeing different colored locos get tired of seeing blue,black,yellow and orange locos all the time
Understood.
"My dress, hat and gloves stay snowy white/ On the mighty road of anthracite." [old EL slogan used by 'Phoebe Snow'. Meaning that anthracite burned cleaner and produced less soot.]
Haha.. That's right.
Kent ohio remnants of the old Erie yards still stand. Turntable hole, roundhouse foundation, some signal equipment, and a water tower base. Bike trail is built on the right of way and uses some of the bridges.
Do you live in Kent to I like to eire Lackawanna old station there and Kent also has a sd18 working for Shelly materials
But you never mentioned the STATION.
@@CSX_Doolittle Kent always had heavy loading I think it was a collage town and the Amish got on and off there.
If you ever come up to New Hampshire We have some old Erie Lackawanna coaches on a siding in bartlett nh !
Thanks, Caleb.. Maybe that'll happen!!
nice. awesome video
Thanks, Phil
your welcome
A C, thank u for this vid.why u ask ? Because like all history here in the good old U S A E L HISTORY wont be forgotten either. Like the roads of the pass they are gone but never forgotten.THANK U A C. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA+++++++++++=
Thanks, Richard.. I liked it to.
There's the Erie Lackawanna Trail in Griffith Indiana that was formerly Erie Lackawanna main line before it became a biking trail
I heard something about that before.. Thanks for sharing Jaco.
Just saw a Pheobe Snow car today being brought to scranton pa
What car was that? Got the name and number? There are very few left.
Nice video!
Thanks, Man.
Mmm very nice video, sure the Erie Lackawanna was the best !
Thanks Henrik.. Glad you enjoyed!!
They had great food on the trains with low prices....speed 70-mph except when late then it was 100mph anything the E-8 would do.
Big alcos scrapped I believe
Stroudsburg, that's my parents' hometown. Go figure...
Go figure.
@@Trains21 They have plenty of stories of the trains that went through there. All the way up until the Conrail takeover.
Lucky them.. I wish I had their memories!!
@@Trains21 That was of course before they moved out to southern California, and as a result of that I grew up similarly seeing the last days of Santa Fe and the first days of BNSF.
@@JohnBachofer Understood.. People are leaving Cali in droves these days.. I wonder if your parents will be among them.
AC; The Erie-Lackawanna Railroad, years and years ago, had a right of way crossing into Indiana, from East to West. The trains and the right-of-way have been a long gone fixture for many decades. All there is to show of its prior existence is the remnants of a pathway corridor which still can be seen from satellite imaging. Here is a GOOGLE Maps image, which shows the path of the old right-of-way. The tracks have been removed, and what is remaining resembles a utility easement. This location is at the Intersection of U.S. Highway 224, and Indiana State Route 1, in Wells County Indiana, just south of the town of Ossian. The property between the Rail Right-Of-Way and the highway were 80 years ago, Sugar Beet Fields, and were cultivated by local and migrant farm labor LINK: www.google.com/maps/place/US-224+%26+IN-1,+Ossian,+IN+46777/@40.8306155,-85.1665119,544m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x881593130043850b:0x305a00d0779f1063!8m2!3d40.8300107!4d-85.1661793?hl=en
Interesting, tracks are still present in Decatur, IN for CF&E ?
The Chicago, Fort Wayne and Eastern basically is what was left over after the Pennsylvania RR was merged with New York Central, and then it was known as the Penn-Central until Conrail had become the recipient. The CF&E, in the Decatur, Indiana vicinity services the Soybean processing business, with spur lines East to VanWert, and Delphos, Ohio, and to Fort Wayne Indiana.
so what happens to the property ownership on those abandon tracks & right of ways?
That's another sad joke. The rights-of-way were "guaranteed" by law for one hundred years; yet, no sooner were the lines discontinued and tracks pulled up, cities sold off lots along the lines and businesses and homes sprung up on them.
Very sad indeed.
Pay the back taxes it's yours! Also adjoining property owners steal it.
We called it the “ Erie Lackomoney”
Yep, heard that moniker before.
Railroad taxes were used to build roads, airports and ports. Even the tickets were taxed until 1962.
l want to go to the Museum of Transportation in St Louis and see EL SD45 3607.
Me too.
Amtrak goes right by 4 times a day and does not stop at Barrnet's station where the museum is. They don't stop at 6 Flags up line either! Why?
I wonder they station are still there or making a comeback
NO ! Those PASSANGER STATION'S are LONG Gone
@@tomflendodo7297 Damn. That's sucks
its not A C E its ACe like the work Ace.
lets not forget that the atsf was interested in the EL west end, but CR did not want the competition, so the west end gets ripped up.
and people still to this day "miss" CR?
not me, CR SUCKS.
Conrail was guilty of many sins, many close to me.. I've pointed out many of them over various videos.. Thanks for watching.
Well Santa Fe did not want the commuter service. Plus the New York banks on Wall Street did not want a western railroad in the east. The super rich always win and they are invested and sell tax free highway and airport bonds. EL did not get a bailout, the bonds were due soon,. And unsiders made a killing on them when Con Job bought the east end of the railroad for 600 million dollars! EL really did not join CON JOB. they only sold the east end of the railroad to them. The west end was sold off for nothing. Unlimited highway and airport building killed it all.
@@Trains21 They were set up by the banks in New York to get rid of railroads and raise prices and they did it.