She has to be though. She had to be strong for Prim growing up, and take on the roles of father AND mother. She didn't have time or trust to dwell on love. She had to appear strong going into both the games. She had to be strong for the rebellion. We can't expect her to be emotionally invested in everyone and everything.
HE FUCKING CREATED MOCKINGJAY DESIGNS FOR THE REVOLUTION AND LEFT THEM WITH 13. HE CHANGED KATNISSES WEDDING DRESS INTO THE MOCKINGJAY BC HE KNEW WHAT IT REPRESENTED. HE KNEW THEY WOULD KILL HIM FOR WHAT HE KNEW HE WAS DOING AND MADE PREPARATIONS FOR IT AHEAD OF TIME. He knew exactly what he was doing the entire time
Narrator probably didn't watch/read it all. But Cinna was the backbone and started her nickname "girl on fire". Deleted scene of Seneca telling Snow her new Nick name and he gets more aggitated.
@@magsyilden670 I would also love to point out that cinna didn't die from the beatings from the peace keepers, he was tortured for information about the revolution and died without saying a single thing about it
@@viv3171 not really. In the books (which were made before), rue shows how they use the mocking-jays within district 11 (agricultural district) to communicate from afar. Because she works in the higher ground, shes the first to see when they finish their work for the day. At the end of the day she whistles whats later the revolution whistle, and teaches it to katniss so that they can communicate
I believe the actual first spark of the revolution was Katniss's mini-funeral for Rue. The minute viewers saw her treat the girl as a person, not an object, everything began to change. Attached to this idea, I also believe the man, who started knocking over things and punching peace-keepers after Katniss gave her salute to the camera, was Rue's father.
Not in the books it wasn’t, because in catching fire katniss asks seeder (the tribute from 11) if rue and thresh’s families are safe/well, and she responds yes. it’s been a long time since I’ve watched the movies so I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah it's clear the wedding dress turned Mockingjay costume was very much a last open protest by Cinna, one he knew he was going to die for. That's why he left the plans for Katniss's battle suit. Cinna was in on it from the start and cleverly used his designs to help Katniss spark the revolution by knowing exactly what each outfit he put her in would do for her public image. He was not only a brilliant stylist and designer, he was also a master class image manipulator. It was only when Katniss was thrown back into the games that Cinna knew he couldn't be subtle anymore and sacrificed himself with the Mockingjay costume.
I personally think Effie and Prim started the revolution, I know that sounds crazy but if you here my reasoning you would understand. Effie called Prim's name even though it was very unlikely, it's like she wanted a revolution, then Katniss volunteered for Prim hence making District 12 noticeable by the Capital. Katniss goes into the area scared put ready for what is going to happen and she has a little bit of hope that she can win for Prim's sake she then wins but some people think she defied the Capital by wanting to keep herself and Peeta alive. Then she goes back into the Games, the only reason she is going back in is because Effie reaped Prim's name, then the rebels from 13 rescue Katniss and what is left of 12 after the Capital firebombed it, then she fights for the people of the districts and then watches Prim die and defeated the Capital, while she is mentally disordered.
"Finnick is actually nice" wow, really? that was mind-blowing revelation. Most of this list, if not all of it, is pretty obvious to anyone, not just adults
Bee I mean I read this when I was eleven originally though so I feel like when I reread it now at 16 I understood the themes and ideas a lot better so this could be for people who don’t choose to reread or watch.
I read the books when I was 11 or so, and Finnick has always been one of my favorite characters. I only saw the last few movies once, but I remember they cut out some stuff (I think the knot scene?) that really helped to show off his character more.
Jade in the book, Peta and Katniss watch old tapes of past games on the train to Panem and end up watching the one where Hamich won. It was a quarter quell and instead of having 24 tributes they had 48 if I’m correct. And Durring the game he ended up at the very edge of the arena where there is a huge cliff and he threw a rock off the edge and a few moments later it came flying back up. So at the very very end when it was down to him and one other girl he had been stabbed and she threw a axe at him and he ducked and it went over the edge of the cliff and so he stayed down and she was too injured to keep moving and a few moments later the axe came flying back up and hit the girl in the head killing her. The capitol saw that as defiance for using the games to his advantage and they exec his whole family to teach him a lesson
Maybe this isn’t apparent to children, but I picked up on all of this. Peeta was a source of strength for Katniss (not to mention a hero in his own right), and she was a survivor...she had to be. Suzanne Collins is a terrific writer!
people often look over the fact peeta survived having his leg slashed to the bone for what could have been hours and tried to make katniss stay with him in the cave and let him die rather than let her risk her own life to get his medicine at the feast in the first hunger games movie. not to mention he let himself get tortured even worse to save katniss and the rest of district 13 in mockingjay part 1. he is definitely a hero.
I am so sick of hearing about Peeta as weak or submisive. This people did not read the books for sure. Peeta fought against Cato, survived for days with terrible injuries, trained Katniss as a career for the Quarter quell, and also threw a statue against a wall during the Victory tour!! How can they forget all of this?
No joke I read all the books when I was 10 years old and I figured all this out at like the beginnings of the books. Come on come up with things none of us know!
The Crafty Cyborg, yeah and the artists that actually painted that are so good, like I can’t understand how anyone can paint like a camera. I have a close friend who can paint so well she painted her bathroom walls red and painted a jungle onto them. Jungle trees with a cheetah on a branch, with birds and grass and such detail that if you glanced at it for a few seconds then left you’d think it was real, or a picture. Who needs wallpaper when you can literally paint so so so good. I wish I could show y’all all the super cool works she has done. She’s amazing. And my best friend who is 11 can paint like Bob Ross. Our friend taught her to paint. I would love to recieve those lessons, but I haven’t yet.
@@giuliad223 oh yeah, no I didn't know about that and I doubt many adults know about that either 🤷 (not to say they don't). I commented so long ago I had to rewatch the first part of the video to know what you were referring to 😂
Lol I read the books at fourteen, I'm pretty sure this was all really clear. But I don't fully agree that Gale is a jerk, even if he had his bad moments.
He contributed to the death of her sister and just abandons her in the books after she confronts him. Doesn't say goodbye or try to in any way help his longterm childhood friend/love who he very nearly blew up too. He's a bit of a dick
I’ve rewatched “Huger Games” a few days ago. And I’ve noticed one interesting detail in the 4th film. When Katness is dressing to kill the President of the 13th district, she puts a capsule with poison in the secret pocket in her costume. When she has already killed the President, she is trying to use it, but Peeta prevents her from doing it.
Honestly, I never saw Gale as a jerk. He made some mistakes, but so did everyone else. "Gale killed Prim." No, he helped construct the offensive weapons meant for the ENEMY. Coin was the one who ordered the bombs to be dropped on the Capitol children, he was unaware of the plan. "He left Katniss at the end." Neither of them made the effort to see each other because they were preoccupied with other things. And it was Katniss who left him. "He was insensitive to others." He saved as many people as he could from District 12. He went back to save Prim during the evacuation. He was the first volunteer on the rescue mission. Gale just isn't the type of person to focus on people individually. "He didn't care about Peeta." Brainwashed or not, Gale understood that Peeta was still a major threat to their cause. Of course Katniss and we readers was very empathetic towards Peeta - they were lovers, and we spent the past two books watching their love. Gale may have been harsh towards Peeta, but then again, Gale didn't prioritize saving Peeta like Katniss did. Above all, I think Gale was a good addition to the series. No character was perfect, but that's because Collins intended to show what happens to people in a dystopian society. How people become psychotic, radical, emotional, hardened, apathetic, etc. Gale is pretty misunderstood. Sorry for the long rant.
He didn't went back for prim during the evacuation, Katniss did and Gale went prevented the guards from closing the doors until KATNISS came back, gale only cared about himself and to have Katniss therefore he is bad, not evil but bad, another prove of his selfishness is on how he didn't care about killing innocent people, adults and children if it meant winning and it backfired and got prim killed and with her any opportunity he had in ever getting with Katniss
I agree to all your points but I still believe he was partly repsonsible for the death of those children. Gale might not have killed Prim, okay I get that. He helped make weapons for 13 . Coin planned the attack on the children. Gale might not know about the attack on the Capitol's children but you're missing one small fact about the bombs/trap. The bombs used in the Capitol's children used first wave of bombs that caused minor injuries. The second wave of bombs blasted after medics came to tend the wounded, doubling the people injured and dead. Gale innovated the trap using human empathy as its bait and that's just straight up evil. Most traps were intended to catch the weak but Gale planned on using empathy as a weapon - the one of the greatest qualities a human could have. And that I think is the most cruel thing a person could do.
@@eyapotts totally agree with that. Like I said he did bad things too, I am not denying them but people think that he is totally evil which he isn't. He wanted to free the poor people and to do so he totally forgot his own morals. Tbh I think if the same technique of the bombs were used by Capitol on them, gale would have been the one who would have rushed to rescue the injured and which would have lead to he himself getting killed.
nayla's world thats not true, in the books gale went looking for prim before katniss noticed there was something wrong. He just helped her because he knew prim was going to get the cat and wanted to save her life.
Gale is definitely not a jerk. He is ofcourse not a totally good person but his motives are usually good. But due to his anger on Capitol he becomes determined to defeat them. I know his way is not right but. He only invented the bombs that killed prim, it wasn't his idea to use them on kids. This idea was of coin. If he knew it would be used on kids he would never agreed. We should also remember that bcz of him atleast some people from 12 were saved. Also he never forced katniss to choose him instead of Gale. He was a good person who made some bad decisions in his quest to free the people of Panem.
Well, he wasnt really apologetic that his bomb killed Prim and he KNEW how important keeping her alive was to Katniss. Heck,this whole thing started becoz she wanted Prim alive
This video should be called things you notice as soon as you watch the hunger games. Let’s list a few things obvious: -The victors have PTSD - Finnick is nice - Gale is a jerk - Katniss is tough - Snow bleeds from the mouth due to poison Jeez I really didn’t notice any of that.
For me the element of the Hunger Games story that is most often missed is how Katniss is frequently a pawn throughout the series. She predominantly reacts to the decisions of those around her rather than driving the bigger picture forward on her own cognizance. It is the manipulations and perceptions of those around her who give her power (evidence: the propaganda war), but she rarely seizes it since her motivations are not politics and power - all she wants is to protect those she cares about. She is not a revolutionary by choice, but by necessity. Ironically, we may fall in to the same propaganda trap that District 13 created - in focusing on the strength and heroism of The Mockingjay, we might forget to notice how that symbol is used to exploit Katniss Everdeen.
Gale isn't a jerk, he refused to run away with her because HE HAD A FAMILY TO PROTECT thats not being a jerk yeesh and literally everyone knows finnick is nice you find out in the first hour of the second movie theres no way you would only realize that as an adult
He offered to run away in the first book/movie and got mad as hell when kattniss refused, for she had a family. When katniss finally came around in catching fire SUDDNLY HE HAS PEOPLE TO PROTECT.
SoHardToBeMe He didn’t get mad because she refused, rather was worried that he’d lose her. & by the second movie, he came to his senses and realized that he has to save his community, for the 100th time. So really, that wasn’t an argument.
RealEyezRuben I'm talking about the books. In the books he shows more frusteration. Plus there's the whole " I love you convo" in the books, which just pissed me off
As a 'child', I noticed everything except for the beckdel test. Something about the books is that Prim was white with blonde hair and blue eyes (said to have her mother's rich-ish blood) while Katniss has the poor, 'seam look' of dark hair and brown skin. There was a lot of segregation/racial commentary in the series. You don't have to be an adult to read books.
Actually I feel like Madge was the one who “sparked” the revolution if you will. She was the one who gave the mockingjay pin to Katniss in the books. That was the inspiration! I really wish the movies would’ve included her character. She was really underrated.
For real, like how would you think as a child that Finnick is rude? My man saved countless of lives and people are just now realizing the good he did-? Gale is a jerk, imo, and Rue was revolutionary and the sweetest little innocent girl who should’ve lived a much longer life.
I read the books and watched this when I was twelve and I caught onto these. I think everybody did because Suzanne Collins is a good and thorough author.
Daniel Swift yeah that’s the exact moment everything changed. Cinna lighting their outfits on fire in the first parade was just to get them some attention to be liked. It wasn’t until after she did that that it was turned into a symbol.
@@cordsandwires3038 not really, Cinna has a major role in the rebellion, in the first book he's even the one to mention a rebellion, because he already planned Katniss to be its symbol. He chose to be district 12 stylist, he made up the girl on fire image, he trusted katniss that she should be herself to win the games. He is the pillar of the rebellion. If you read the book you would know Cinna thought of the rebellion
Vairani Harapoi I know he thought of the rebellion and made it come to life but he didn’t know katniss before the first games. He felt inspired by her to be the image of the rebellion but he didn’t pre plan for any of that.
Yes and no. It was Rue who told Katniss where Peeta was. Without Rue telling her, Katniss wouldn’t have ever found Peeta, he would have died due to his blood poisoning, and Katniss would have been crowned victor. So it was When Katniss pulled the Nightlock like Snow said, but if you go to the root of the cause, it was Rue who started it. I know by that logic, you can pin it on Snow for hosting the annual Hunger Games, but there have be 73 previous Hunger Games and without Rue, it would have been another ordinary Games.
I actually will admit I gained a little bit of respect for Snow when he was thinking about the things that Coin did to the capitol. I am in no way justifying what he did and saying it was right, but I think Katniss was forgetting “who the real enemy was”, or in better words “who the worse enemy was”. In the Mocking Jay I found him quite humorous and enjoyed the ways he messed with people’s heads when they blamed him for the bombing. And the coughing blood stuff was perfection.
Gosh, I was 13 when I read the books and all of this was obvious to me then. It doesn't take a genius or even an adult even to work out what was going on. I understood it perfectly fine when I was 13!! Also Gale is not a "creep" or a "jerk," he's just totally misunderstood...
Mitchell Patterson oh yeah. Been a little while since I read the books, sorry lol. Maybe I mixed it up since they were sending in medics so I correlated that? I gotta read those again, good times:):)
He was okay in the first book, but in Catching Fire and Mockingjay, he acted like a complete asshole. He completely neglected Katniss's feelings and thoughts and used him liking Katniss as an excuse. I mean, it's one thing to be jealous of Peeta over it, but not even hearing what Katniss has to say about it is another.
When i read book gale i wanted to kill him, literally never like the kid. Then at the ending, just oof. I think if i reread it now, i would like him more.
Gale's a creep and a jerk? Have you read the book's? Or actually listened to the movies? He said she couldn't do anything with the deer because it was the day where tributes were being chosen. The Capital's men were everywhere and its illgeal to go past the gate (and hunt). If she drags a deer with a bunch of police around there is no way she wouldn't get caught. Gale loved her and even got whipped for hunting.
Mya Atkins I mean yeah I get your point but he was being a jerk by saying horrible things about peeta even though katniss had already told him that they were torturing peeta
Andrea Ruiz I get your point but the whole being of Mockingjay had me just waiting around for her to get herself. I get she's young but she's smart enough to realize that you shouldn't put the few before the many. She risked a lot of people to save peeta and he's pretty useless. Plus he repeatedly tried to kill her and they had to take the time to rehabilitate him. This only slowed everyone down, put useful lives in danger, and wasted resources. That's why I side with Gale.
Gale was angry, selfish, and arrogant. He had good qualities too. He was strong, determined, loyal. But his bad qualities wayyy over powered his good ones. He and Katniss were way too alike. Katniss was also angry, arrogant and selfish, and Katniss even says at the end of the mockingjay book that Gale had a fire in him that she had too much of herself, and she didn’t want that. Gale was kinda always a jerk. Everything was about him.
Eh, in the first two films/books, Gale wasn't really apart of the story, but in Mockingjay, we see more of Gale's character and realize he's not really all that good. Peeta was the obvious choice from the beginning.
I don't like that they used the term "jerk." He had valid reasons for behaving the way he did but like others mentioned, and the author herself wrote, he had a fire inside him that wasn't healthy for Katniss. She had a fire inside of her as well and the two of them together only creates what? A bigger fire. Because of that, he would have never let Katniss move on and provide proper closure like Peeta did. Gale wasn't necessarily a bad guy but he wasn't a good one either. Not for Katniss at least. She needs someone like Peeta who's selfless and kind and forgiving and let's her move on from the past instead of keeping her dwelling in the anger of it all.
Gale isn’t jerk. If you’d read the books it states that the last time they’d killed a deer it had been ripped apart (people were trying to rip chunks off) when they were taking it to be sold, proving gale was right in the first film, though he could have gone about it a different way. Also, Katniss should have realised what would have happened to her if she’d taken a dead deer through District 12 on the day of the reaping, she would have been punished. Furthermore, in catching fire Gale talks her out of it because their families wouldn’t survive Iin the wild. Prim is too sweet to hunt and Gale’s younger siblings aren’t going to be of much use. It would terrify the younger ones too much, Gale wanted to protect them but within 12. Also, Katniss would have been hinted, as se was the only female victor from 12 and she couldn’t leave Peeta behind either. Finally, in Mockingjay Gale reacts with no sympathy to Peeta because he is viewed as a traitor to the rebels, something most of them thought. But Gale has also proven that he didn’t completely hate Peeta, or lived Katniss enough to volunteer in the mission to rescue Peeta and the victors, showing he isn’t that bad, no matter what you say... btw I’m 13 and I knew all of these things.
Shadow Cooper so do you agere with him that he had to kill lots of innocent people, Prim included, not think about casualties or concequenses, to «win» the war?
I guess I agree but Prim should have been kept away. To be honest, the rebels supplied medics to help the people there, so the plan should have been stopped so none of their own died. Prim was selfless and the plan that killed her was despicable. However, Katniss in the books and films agreed that there should be a hunger games with the Capitols children, so Gale isn’t much worse though Prim deserves better...
Shadow Cooper She didn’t actually agree to another Hunger Games, did you pay attention?? She said it to manipulate Coin into thinking she was on her side. The rebels sent out the medics to make them think it was over. They tried to frame Snow’s people for the explosions.
Cinna was very much in on the revolution, he draws up her Mockingjay outfit for the propos…I can’t imagine how sad it would be for Cinna to not have been part of it! So sad he couldn’t see what his work started. One of the most underrated characters.
noticing this has nothing to do with being an adult i’m 15 and I’ve noticed every single one of these things however the majority of them mainly correspond the movies you should read the books
The PTSD is way worse in the books. Haymitch doesnt sleep at night, he always sleeps with a knife and he once didnt get a drink and it said he ran around screaming all day at things only he could see. I just wanted to hug him and make it all okay. I wish that was possible 😢
A happy ending? You probably haven't seen much of movies.... this wasn't a happy ending.... Pretty Woman had a happy ending.... cliched one and after years I find it an unbelievable happy ending but it had.... most of romantic comedies or comedies got a happy ending.... Silver Linings Playbook had a real life happy ending (even though they still suffered their mental ilnesses) but THG had no happy ending.... with time Katniss and Peeta got a good life but those lost things will always hurt in some kind of a way.... the only thing they can do is move on and try to live as best as they can..... just like many people who have suffered in life. Some people have a good life but many people have gone through bad things just not as bad as Katniss and Peeta.
And I wouldn't wonder if Lionsgate came with something maybe it won't have Jennifer and the original cast in it anymore but they could easily come with something from the same universe.
Glad this video pointed out the switched gender roles, because that's one of my favorite things about this series. Katniss is emotionally unavailable for most of the books and movies, while Peeta is kind, altruistic and forgiving. Very much the opposite qualities you see in Hollywood for women and men. I also appreciate Suzanne Collins making Katniss such an imperfect, even unlikeable character at times. She's real and complex, and I think Jennifer Lawrence played her beautifully.
2:30 she couldn't do anything with the deer because it was the Reaping Day so she couldn't have sell it to anyone without the Peacekeepers noticing and hunting for food was illegal and anyone who read the like 50 pages of the first book or watched that scene would know this even kids because it was explained
lol same these are obvious... except i think gale isn't a jerk... people need to read the books before making judgements bc the movie leaves out a lot of stuff
Something you may not have noticed is that Peeta’s designer doesn’t really get much credit for branching out of the “coal miner” role which isn’t really fair
@Alana Hamer Katniss’ designer is Cinna, and Peeta’s is Portia, she’s in the movie, just not mentioned much or even introduced I don’t think. But she is more involved in the book.
“11, is a direct reference to slavery. If you escape or break rules you are whipped.” let’s say it together now.... “SO ARE ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS, DID YOU NOT SEE GALE GET WHIPPED?”
Finnick still explains the snow whole drinking poison thing in the movie but nobody notices it because they play that at the same time as the rescue mission
Maddie Evans he also tells about the prostitution if I remember correctly. Basically everything they listed as being left out of the movies was actually in them. And everything they said was shocking was obvious and a central point of the story.
Tbh it's unlikely a sweet naive child is watching this video, even if they like the hunger games, this is far from the first thing that would come up when searching for it
Well depending on your definition of a child, should you even had read this book? I think it was marketed for a 12(+) audience, and children of that age should understand those themes (and instead of naivety, I would call that oblivious for that age). My definition of a child is 4-10 (after that they are a pre-teen), and in no way would I expect a child of this age to read this book, nor would I encourage it. And anyone older, I would presume that they're either reading it out of interest (in which they would like to understand the concepts presented) or for school (in which they have to understand the concepts presented-or use wiki). Props to you if you're under 10 and read it, but I honestly think you should enjoy your youth instead of watching The Lists videos, not that they don't have informative videos, but you'll regret not doing more in the future. Especially when you get into university, you won't even have time to go out during the weekend, and that is extremely saddening. So enjoy freedom while it lasts
No he was a jerk for helping Coin, the corrupt president of district 13 with the murder of Katniss's sister Prim because he loved the power and had so much hatred built for the capitol that he would kill thousands of innocent children and medical helpers who were simply trying to help injured children (and these were the people on his side). Also he was insanely jealous and selfish at the fact that Katniss was trying to survive the Hunger Games but his own ego couldn't accept the possibility that she went through some terrible things and had to do things to keep herself alive like faking love with Peeta. He didn't even have the right to be jealous as they were never dated and never had a romantic interaction before the games and he suddenly wanted her just because someone else had her. Seems like a jerk to me... doing the wrong things for the right reasons doesn't make it right.
@@annas.2151 you need to get your facts straight and learn some basic human psychology. First, Gale likely had no knowledge of Coin's plan to use Prim the was she did. If you don't recall, the war was a ways away from over when Katniss went rouge in the Capitol. As far as anyone there knew, Prim was in 13 still becoming a doctor. What I am saying is with Gale out of communication with 13 at the time Coin would have made the decision to deploy Prim, there would be no way for him to know about Coin's plan. On the subject of the bombs that killed Prim, they did not intend on using it on 13's medics, matter of fact it was only talked about in concepts, ones that would be used against the capitol (page 186 of Mockingjay). Even if Gale knew that it may have been used against Prim, he would have likely done everything in his power to stop Prim from being killed because he loves Katniss, and thus to keep her happiness alive, Prim would be alive. What I am saying there is if he knew about it then he would be making the choice to kill Prim, which would be directly hurting Katniss, which is something that people in love with another do not do. On the note of Gale loving Katniss you stated (this is a direct quote with the grammatical errors included) "He didn't even have the right to be jealous as they were never dated and never had a romantic interaction before the games and he suddenly wanted her just because someone else had her." This is just flat out WRONG. Gale had wanted Katniss for more than 6 months BEFORE the games began. On page 199 of Mockingjay, Katniss asks Gale "So when did I become so special? When they carted me off to the Capitol?" and Gale responds with "No. About six months before that. Right after New Year's. We were in the Hob, eating some slop of Greasy Sae's. And Darius was teasing you about trading a rabbit for one of his kisses. And I realized... I minded." This proves that Gale had been loving Katniss for quite some time before the games even began, and thus before she was with someone else, which establishes reasonable grounds for jealousy and resentment towards Peeta. Again, that is simple psychology, and doesn't make one a jerk. There are more points that I can make towards Gale not being a jerk, but this post is getting long and it's almost 4 a.m. where I live. If you decide to argue this further, please get your facts straight and use evidence to make an actual argument.
@@wrkkvikrmvh1023 even if Gale didn't know Prim was going to die, he still was ok with hundreds of innocent people dying to the bomb. Also, in the books, he wasn't even sorry about Prim dying. Gale confessed his love for Katniss even when he thought Katniss wasn't faking being in love with Peeta. Katniss and Gale had some romantic interaction, but they had never dated, and when Gale said the idea that Katniss and him would have kids together, Katniss immediately got scared, never wanting to have kids or get married. There are some points of Gale being selfless (saving Peeta) but overall he was a big jerk.
@@Anita-nu2uo I believe with Gale's mindset he wpuld be ok if hundreds of innocent CAPITOL (I only capitalized that because I dont know how to italicize text on a phone) citizens died because of his rage towards the capitol (I dont have the books in front of me currently, but if I did I would cite his outburst in Distict 2 when talking about his plan to take down the Nut). After he was taken by Peacekeepers in the Capitol, there was no mention of him until it said he was mopping up Peacekeepers in a district (District 2 I believe), so there is no way to know if he felt bad or not about Prim dieing. I mentioned where Gale confessed his feelings for Katniss (which was after Peeta entered the mix) already. I could be wrong about this, but I dont think that Gale ever mentioned having kids with Katniss. There was the conversation that they had outside the district about running off in Catching Fire where he said it would be easy if it were not for all the kids (implying his siblings, Prim, and thier moms). I do know that it was stated once or twice her feelings towards kids/marriage in general, but I don't think that it was ever talked about kids with Gale specifically. I'm going to edit this post once I get my books in front of me to cite pages, which may be tommorow, so sorry if it takes some time. Edit: I was wrong about the conversation where they talked about running away, it was in book 1 page 9 and 10. Gales outburst in the conversation of how to take down the Nut is on page 204 and 205 of Mockingjay.
@innocentdumpling The day I made that post I was irritated with other things (so I was in a little of a sour mood) and when I saw him pounce on the person that made the original post it ticked me off. I know that opinions are a thing, but if you look at the original post and the response to it, then compare my response to that first response (sorry of that is hard to follow, but I forgot their names) you can see that I did essentially the same thing, but in a more extreme way. Yes it was probably more extreme than I should have made it, but I wanted it to REALLY (used capitals because I don't know how to italicize text on phone) get my point across. Also, I where ever I cited somthing, it was a fact, which I then explained to show how it pertained to my argument. I was treating this more like a debate, so I was using my skills in that field (I am part of a debate club) to make my argument, and one of my favorite strategies is to discredit my opponent as much as possible.
Uhm the whipping and fence around district 11 have nothing to do with that district symbolizing slavery, all districts had an electric fence and peace keepers the only noticeable different thing in 11 is the brown skin
To be fair, district 12 is also surrounded by an electric fence and guarded by peacekeepers. They just left the power off usually until attention was brought to 12 due to the 74th games victors. Katniss and Gale were hunting illegally and going beyond that fence, whether it was turned on or not, was a BIG no-no.
3:59 ever notice how much this looks like Auschwitz? the high and long wall entrance, and the train track leading to it... don't know if it was intentional, but that's what it reminds me of
In Catching Fire, we find out Haymitch, Plutarch, and Finnick were a part of the revolution at the end, but it is also said that half the tributes were as well as Cinna, Effie, and a lot of people who worked with district 12. Katniss started the revolution because of what she did in the first games with Rue and Peeta. She risked her own life to save them. Then, with Snow announcing the Quarter Quell, it was even announced that everyone was angry. Also, the movie doesn't really show until the end that Enobaria, the girl from district 2, was alive and one of the people a part of the revolution. She helped Johanna separate Katniss by cutting the wire. Also, the morphling saved Peeta because they were promised to protect both he and Katniss (though Katniss was the one they needed to start the revolution, but if she had lost Peeta during the arena, getting her to cooperate, as seen in Mockingjay when she is angry about Peeta's capture would have been even more difficult)
gale isn't a jerk, though. he was just honest and let his thoughts speak whenever. he took a big part in this movie, was really helpful and you cannot just narrow his character down to a "jerk". yeah, the bombs were made him, but he thought they were gonna be used on president snow and peacekeepers, not on the girl whose sister he loved - which just sums up a tragic end of their friend/relationship. i think he was greatly written.
2:46 WEll, personally I don't think Gale is a creep. It maybe because he had a rough childhood, or having to take care of his entire family alone and maybe he is emotionally unavailable like Katniss but she does show emotion when its necessary. So I think that we suppose Gale might be a jerk or creep because of his personality which has been moulded by his past. If u have me wrong, u r great and plz reply why u think so ;)
Vera Schijndel Katniss had Peeta, that was explicitly clear. Katniss also sent him away as well. Gale staying with her probably would have done more damage than what he actually did
Another reason why gale is a jerk, when he was getting everyone out of district 12 in the 3rd movie he “wasn’t able to” get peetas family. He was jealous of peeta and purposely did not save his 2 brothers and parents. He also SPOILER ALERT let prim die. Basically killed her. And he was also okay with letting thousands of innocent people die just to save a couple people. There you go. There are the cold hard facts.
I think what sparked the revolution was when Rue dies actually, I often wondered what would have happened if she had survived until the end. She and katniss showed unity between two districts and not like one and two but they were both selfless with each other and helping the other with no selfish reason. When rue died and katniss was obviously torn not pleased she was one step closer to home, singing for and dressing her in flowers. She also gave a sign from her district to hers which showed a connection between the two. That sparked it and then with the berries at the end the games was pure defiance to the system.
Kind of an arrogant video.. Several of these are either obvious to everyone, or wrong. -A good book/movie has three-dimensional characters. I would think less of the THG books if Gale had been a jerk/bad guy/evil, but he's not, he has good and bad sides. His bad sides cost him and his friends a lot, so he's a tragic character, really. -Cinna did *not* spark the revolution. He contributed, but Katniss, unknowingly, was the spark. That was kind of the whole point... -"Finnick is actually nice"???!!! Give me a break. Good point about the PTSD, though. If you want to know what it's like in the head of someone who has depression and PTSD, Mockingjay is your book.
cece x well he knew what the bomb was capable of!! He didn’t care Prim died!! He only cared if Katniss was mad at him! He honestly didn’t care if he killed someone!!
Gale is not a jerk. Idk why everybody hates him. He's literally katniss in male form. He believes in what he's fighting for and is willing to fight for it. Strong. Brave. Literally the only person that protects katniss. And her family.
My 8 year old sister could notice almost everything in this list since it was directly stated in both the books and movies. Also, Gale watched the people he loved die, it's easy to think it might have made him angry. I think Gale had flaws but he was one of the most realistic characters. He watched a power hungry Capitol draw people to get slaughtered every year for his entire life. It's easy to understand him wanting to make anyone involved or even anyone who didn't seem to care pay.
Actually the first spark of rebellion is in the first movie when Peeta and Katniss are the last 2 tributes left and she refuses to kill Peeta, they act in defiance by deciding to kill themselves together rather than killing each other. Seneca Crane surrendered to them and declared them both winners before either one of them died. This is in direct defiance of the capitol as for the past 73 years there has always been one winner, and she managed to manipulate the capitol into going against that rule, humiliating them I front of the whole country. From this point on, there is trouble. After this President Snow visits her to let her know the possible consequences for her actions and threatens to kill everyone she loves. So yea, Cinna didn't spark anything, it was Katniss.
Actually, the first spark in the revolution was when Rue died. Katniss laid flowers around the girl so that the Capitol would see. She knew that the Capitol would have to film Rue getting lifted into the air, it was customary. And when Katniss did the three fingered sign to the camera, it caused a ripple that made District 11 realize how unfair they were being treated. They already knew that they were being treated horribly, but the fact that they made an 12 year old get murdered... It was a cause to break a dam.
The revolution was sparked from the moment Katniss pulled out the berries. Like, Cinna helped but the Mockingjay suit wasn't what sparked the revolution. By then, people where already revolting, like 8. Katniss meets two rebels in the woods, trying to find district 13, the head quaters of the revolution. And that was before she became the Mockingjay. So no, there had already been uprisings. The districts were already rebelling.
idk if district 11 is suppose to represent slavery, district 11 is located in the south and therefore would have more black people and the climate allows a lot of agriculture. i understand why people would think that it is slavery but there isnt much racism or sexism in the hunger games.
Saying that Gale is a Jerk is subjective really, it depends on how you look at it Also I would like to say that in my experience much more children/teenagers have read the book then adults (Yes this is just in my experience so If its different for someone else, okay)
Half of the time they say "this wasn't covered in the movies" it literally was? Finnick addresses and explains to the entire country that he was forced into prostitution and snow poisoned his competition??
“She’s emotionally unavailable” well if that doesn’t summarize Katniss in 3 words
She has to be though. She had to be strong for Prim growing up, and take on the roles of father AND mother. She didn't have time or trust to dwell on love. She had to appear strong going into both the games. She had to be strong for the rebellion. We can't expect her to be emotionally invested in everyone and everything.
Melanie Fry just wanted to tell you, you are at 666 likes. Also that is so true!
It was mentioned in the books that all she can think of is to survive. She does not have space for other things
Imao right
Being 16, lost father and volutantary go to killing competition. I would be much worse, not mention dead of course.
Whether Cinna was in on it or not? Really?
He is the very backbone of the revolution...
HE FUCKING CREATED MOCKINGJAY DESIGNS FOR THE REVOLUTION AND LEFT THEM WITH 13. HE CHANGED KATNISSES WEDDING DRESS INTO THE MOCKINGJAY BC HE KNEW WHAT IT REPRESENTED. HE KNEW THEY WOULD KILL HIM FOR WHAT HE KNEW HE WAS DOING AND MADE PREPARATIONS FOR IT AHEAD OF TIME. He knew exactly what he was doing the entire time
Lily McCraw idk why you’re yelling but yes
Exactly like he literally designed her mockingjay war outfit .. this narrator didn't do enough research at all
Narrator probably didn't watch/read it all. But Cinna was the backbone and started her nickname "girl on fire". Deleted scene of Seneca telling Snow her new Nick name and he gets more aggitated.
@@magsyilden670 I would also love to point out that cinna didn't die from the beatings from the peace keepers, he was tortured for information about the revolution and died without saying a single thing about it
Alternate title: People who haven’t read the books underestimate kids ability to understand what goes on in them.
True, im a kid and I noticed almost all of these things almost immediately, and ive read the books.
@@safyakhan7857 RIGHT!
Exactly
safya khan
Exactly! I picked up on all of these the first time I read the books (when I was around the age of 10 or so).
Honestly tho
"Katniss and the other victors are suffering ptsd"
NO? REALLY? IT'S NOT LIKE KIDS CAN'T NOTICE THAT!
I noticed they were shocked I just never thought of it that way so.. She's right
fefe cosplay I’m sorry every other child notices it...
I know right it’s pretty obvious
Rue kind of STARTED the revolution because of her whistle!
@@idontevenhaveapla7224 tRUE?
she didnt whistle the whistle tho. katniss made it up
😭😭😭I cried for like 30 mins after she died
@@viv3171 not really. In the books (which were made before), rue shows how they use the mocking-jays within district 11 (agricultural district) to communicate from afar. Because she works in the higher ground, shes the first to see when they finish their work for the day. At the end of the day she whistles whats later the revolution whistle, and teaches it to katniss so that they can communicate
@@aimer_la_vie4056 They meant that Katniss was the one to make up the tune of the whistle signal, not the actual whistle signal itself.
I believe the actual first spark of the revolution was Katniss's mini-funeral for Rue. The minute viewers saw her treat the girl as a person, not an object, everything began to change. Attached to this idea, I also believe the man, who started knocking over things and punching peace-keepers after Katniss gave her salute to the camera, was Rue's father.
Everyone knows that
Not in the books it wasn’t, because in catching fire katniss asks seeder (the tribute from 11) if rue and thresh’s families are safe/well, and she responds yes. it’s been a long time since I’ve watched the movies so I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt.
If it was Rue’s father, he would be standing at Rue’s family podium.
@@nekonightmares9252 He would have been executed though
O lol hi No, Danielle said she believes the man with the salute is Rue’s father. If he was Rue’s father, he would be standing on Rue’s podium.
Wheter Cinna was in on it or not??? He literally left design plans for Katniss' battle suit if I recall correctly. I'd say he was pretty in on it!
Well yeah....
Yeah it's clear the wedding dress turned Mockingjay costume was very much a last open protest by Cinna, one he knew he was going to die for. That's why he left the plans for Katniss's battle suit. Cinna was in on it from the start and cleverly used his designs to help Katniss spark the revolution by knowing exactly what each outfit he put her in would do for her public image. He was not only a brilliant stylist and designer, he was also a master class image manipulator. It was only when Katniss was thrown back into the games that Cinna knew he couldn't be subtle anymore and sacrificed himself with the Mockingjay costume.
he was in on it the whole time. he risked his life for the sake of the rebellion
It's quite obvious...
I personally think Effie and Prim started the revolution, I know that sounds crazy but if you here my reasoning you would understand. Effie called Prim's name even though it was very unlikely, it's like she wanted a revolution, then Katniss volunteered for Prim hence making District 12 noticeable by the Capital. Katniss goes into the area scared put ready for what is going to happen and she has a little bit of hope that she can win for Prim's sake she then wins but some people think she defied the Capital by wanting to keep herself and Peeta alive. Then she goes back into the Games, the only reason she is going back in is because Effie reaped Prim's name, then the rebels from 13 rescue Katniss and what is left of 12 after the Capital firebombed it, then she fights for the people of the districts and then watches Prim die and defeated the Capital, while she is mentally disordered.
"Finnick is actually nice" wow, really? that was mind-blowing revelation. Most of this list, if not all of it, is pretty obvious to anyone, not just adults
Bee I mean I read this when I was eleven originally though so I feel like when I reread it now at 16 I understood the themes and ideas a lot better so this could be for people who don’t choose to reread or watch.
Bee but I agree these are pretty obvious to me now lol
I read the books when I was 11 or so, and Finnick has always been one of my favorite characters. I only saw the last few movies once, but I remember they cut out some stuff (I think the knot scene?) that really helped to show off his character more.
Bee i
srly, he kind of saved peetas life, gave up his life so the others could escape, but whatever you know?
Not gonna mention that Haymitch also had his mom, brother, and girlfriend killed by the Capitol?
Omg really
@@namehi6586 yep, I think I read it somewhere in the book
@@namehi6586 yep, Snow Killed all his family.
Jade yeah, it was mentioned in Mockingjay
Jade in the book, Peta and Katniss watch old tapes of past games on the train to Panem and end up watching the one where Hamich won. It was a quarter quell and instead of having 24 tributes they had 48 if I’m correct. And Durring the game he ended up at the very edge of the arena where there is a huge cliff and he threw a rock off the edge and a few moments later it came flying back up. So at the very very end when it was down to him and one other girl he had been stabbed and she threw a axe at him and he ducked and it went over the edge of the cliff and so he stayed down and she was too injured to keep moving and a few moments later the axe came flying back up and hit the girl in the head killing her. The capitol saw that as defiance for using the games to his advantage and they exec his whole family to teach him a lesson
“whether he was in on it or not” cinna literally designed her outfit for being the revolution’s mockingjay. he was in on it
He also designed her battle outfit in mockingjay
@@suze7751 yeah
Maybe this isn’t apparent to children, but I picked up on all of this. Peeta was a source of strength for Katniss (not to mention a hero in his own right), and she was a survivor...she had to be. Suzanne Collins is a terrific writer!
people often look over the fact peeta survived having his leg slashed to the bone for what could have been hours and tried to make katniss stay with him in the cave and let him die rather than let her risk her own life to get his medicine at the feast in the first hunger games movie. not to mention he let himself get tortured even worse to save katniss and the rest of district 13 in mockingjay part 1. he is definitely a hero.
I am so sick of hearing about Peeta as weak or submisive. This people did not read the books for sure. Peeta fought against Cato, survived for days with terrible injuries, trained Katniss as a career for the Quarter quell, and also threw a statue against a wall during the Victory tour!! How can they forget all of this?
You should read another book series by her. It's called Gregor. It's a very different gener. But it is worth a little time.
I’ve noticed that and I’m a child
All the kids noticed these things too
No joke I read all the books when I was 10 years old and I figured all this out at like the beginnings of the books. Come on come up with things none of us know!
Same here, this whole video is a joke
im 10 lol
Same I read them when I was nine and all of this was obvious! Children aren’t dumb usually
Ikr
Same
I'm not even adult, but these weren't hard to figure out
Ya
Ikr
And then.... there's Peta....
*cuts to Peta decorating a cake*
**awkward silence**
Joanne Kelleher *peeta
Misses Potts *Peeta
He wasn’t decorating a cake, he was practicing camouflage body painting. Big difference!
The Crafty Cyborg, yeah and the artists that actually painted that are so good, like I can’t understand how anyone can paint like a camera. I have a close friend who can paint so well she painted her bathroom walls red and painted a jungle onto them. Jungle trees with a cheetah on a branch, with birds and grass and such detail that if you glanced at it for a few seconds then left you’d think it was real, or a picture. Who needs wallpaper when you can literally paint so so so good. I wish I could show y’all all the super cool works she has done. She’s amazing. And my best friend who is 11 can paint like Bob Ross. Our friend taught her to paint. I would love to recieve those lessons, but I haven’t yet.
Literally all of this would be obvious to a 10 year old 😂
I don't know about you but I didn't know about the bechdel test when I was eleven
@@giuliad223 oh yeah, no I didn't know about that and I doubt many adults know about that either 🤷 (not to say they don't). I commented so long ago I had to rewatch the first part of the video to know what you were referring to 😂
I am afended....
Sorry if I spelled that wrong
Giulia D To be fair, I did.
you is right
I think people who aren't adults could've figured this out. It was very in the books and sometimes in the movies.
Exactly
Ik I'm 14 and I knew it all
I know all this and I am a kid
Yup I read it when I was 11
Nala Smith ww qnxaqksdtgcfde
Lol I read the books at fourteen, I'm pretty sure this was all really clear. But I don't fully agree that Gale is a jerk, even if he had his bad moments.
Gale killed prim! Nuff said.
I read them at 11
Yeah, I read them at 10 and got pretty much all of that. Definitely got it all by 13
He contributed to the death of her sister and just abandons her in the books after she confronts him. Doesn't say goodbye or try to in any way help his longterm childhood friend/love who he very nearly blew up too. He's a bit of a dick
Completely agree, I think it was quite obvious that this was the main themes of the books. (Apart from the Gale one 😂)
I’ve rewatched “Huger Games” a few days ago. And I’ve noticed one interesting detail in the 4th film. When Katness is dressing to kill the President of the 13th district, she puts a capsule with poison in the secret pocket in her costume. When she has already killed the President, she is trying to use it, but Peeta prevents her from doing it.
Yes I on,y realised that after I read the books because it is very clear in the books
Yeah it is metioned in the books, in fact she ends up biting peeta bc he put his hand on top of the pocket
Jelly Bean and she says “let me go” but he responds with “I can’t”
Yeah, I realised it when I was watching the film for the first time.
peasant:”Finnick is actually nice”
Me:YEAH NO SHIT
Honestly, I never saw Gale as a jerk. He made some mistakes, but so did everyone else.
"Gale killed Prim." No, he helped construct the offensive weapons meant for the ENEMY. Coin was the one who ordered the bombs to be dropped on the Capitol children, he was unaware of the plan.
"He left Katniss at the end." Neither of them made the effort to see each other because they were preoccupied with other things. And it was Katniss who left him.
"He was insensitive to others." He saved as many people as he could from District 12. He went back to save Prim during the evacuation. He was the first volunteer on the rescue mission. Gale just isn't the type of person to focus on people individually.
"He didn't care about Peeta." Brainwashed or not, Gale understood that Peeta was still a major threat to their cause. Of course Katniss and we readers was very empathetic towards Peeta - they were lovers, and we spent the past two books watching their love. Gale may have been harsh towards Peeta, but then again, Gale didn't prioritize saving Peeta like Katniss did.
Above all, I think Gale was a good addition to the series. No character was perfect, but that's because Collins intended to show what happens to people in a dystopian society. How people become psychotic, radical, emotional, hardened, apathetic, etc. Gale is pretty misunderstood. Sorry for the long rant.
Exactly
He didn't went back for prim during the evacuation, Katniss did and Gale went prevented the guards from closing the doors until KATNISS came back, gale only cared about himself and to have Katniss therefore he is bad, not evil but bad, another prove of his selfishness is on how he didn't care about killing innocent people, adults and children if it meant winning and it backfired and got prim killed and with her any opportunity he had in ever getting with Katniss
I agree to all your points but I still believe he was partly repsonsible for the death of those children. Gale might not have killed Prim, okay I get that. He helped make weapons for 13 . Coin planned the attack on the children. Gale might not know about the attack on the Capitol's children but you're missing one small fact about the bombs/trap.
The bombs used in the Capitol's children used first wave of bombs that caused minor injuries. The second wave of bombs blasted after medics came to tend the wounded, doubling the people injured and dead.
Gale innovated the trap using human empathy as its bait and that's just straight up evil. Most traps were intended to catch the weak but Gale planned on using empathy as a weapon - the one of the greatest qualities a human could have. And that I think is the most cruel thing a person could do.
@@eyapotts totally agree with that. Like I said he did bad things too, I am not denying them but people think that he is totally evil which he isn't. He wanted to free the poor people and to do so he totally forgot his own morals. Tbh I think if the same technique of the bombs were used by Capitol on them, gale would have been the one who would have rushed to rescue the injured and which would have lead to he himself getting killed.
nayla's world thats not true, in the books gale went looking for prim before katniss noticed there was something wrong. He just helped her because he knew prim was going to get the cat and wanted to save her life.
I knew everything , of course finnick is nice who Would hate him
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Sophie Odair I wished he didn’t die ): :(
Snow. But that's obvious
Sophie Odair ll
Sophie Odair my friend hates him. I almost killed him when he told me that.
“Finnick is actually nice.”
Um we all knew that... we watched the movies and read the books lmao Finnick is awesome
Faith mood
That's 6 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
Gale is definitely not a jerk. He is ofcourse not a totally good person but his motives are usually good. But due to his anger on Capitol he becomes determined to defeat them. I know his way is not right but. He only invented the bombs that killed prim, it wasn't his idea to use them on kids. This idea was of coin. If he knew it would be used on kids he would never agreed. We should also remember that bcz of him atleast some people from 12 were saved. Also he never forced katniss to choose him instead of Gale. He was a good person who made some bad decisions in his quest to free the people of Panem.
nupur dandekar yasss I’m so happy I finally found a good comment about Galeeeeeee
Well, he wasnt really apologetic that his bomb killed Prim and he KNEW how important keeping her alive was to Katniss. Heck,this whole thing started becoz she wanted Prim alive
if you read the book you see that gale didn't even invent the bombs it was Wiress and Beaty and Katniss killed coin because it was her idea
@@victoriashen5443 It was Gale and Beetee
Wiress was dead when they made the bomb
Did they miss the part where he bowled over Thread because he was hurting an old woman?
This video should be called things you notice as soon as you watch the hunger games. Let’s list a few things obvious:
-The victors have PTSD
- Finnick is nice
- Gale is a jerk
- Katniss is tough
- Snow bleeds from the mouth due to poison
Jeez I really didn’t notice any of that.
"Gale is a jerk" and "Finnick is actually nice". Everyone knows that lol
Dārta Petruņko Damm right he also invented the trap that killed Prim
Yes
I actually love Gale a lot.
Sophie Odair That's why I hate him
Shaira Sultana I liked him till the moment he kissed Katniss
For me the element of the Hunger Games story that is most often missed is how Katniss is frequently a pawn throughout the series. She predominantly reacts to the decisions of those around her rather than driving the bigger picture forward on her own cognizance. It is the manipulations and perceptions of those around her who give her power (evidence: the propaganda war), but she rarely seizes it since her motivations are not politics and power - all she wants is to protect those she cares about. She is not a revolutionary by choice, but by necessity. Ironically, we may fall in to the same propaganda trap that District 13 created - in focusing on the strength and heroism of The Mockingjay, we might forget to notice how that symbol is used to exploit Katniss Everdeen.
and ironically the one person she started out protecting was killed as a result of the revolution she helped ignite.
True. It did feel like she took grasp of that power when she did that to coin at the end.
Gale isn't a jerk, he refused to run away with her because HE HAD A FAMILY TO PROTECT thats not being a jerk yeesh and literally everyone knows finnick is nice you find out in the first hour of the second movie theres no way you would only realize that as an adult
AND he also wanted to stay because he wanted to fight. That way, he inspired Katniss to face her fears, which doesn't mean he didn't have bad sides.
he's definitely a jerk but they used some dumbass examples
He offered to run away in the first book/movie and got mad as hell when kattniss refused, for she had a family. When katniss finally came around in catching fire SUDDNLY HE HAS PEOPLE TO PROTECT.
SoHardToBeMe He didn’t get mad because she refused, rather was worried that he’d lose her. & by the second movie, he came to his senses and realized that he has to save his community, for the 100th time. So really, that wasn’t an argument.
RealEyezRuben I'm talking about the books. In the books he shows more frusteration. Plus there's the whole " I love you convo" in the books, which just pissed me off
As a 'child', I noticed everything except for the beckdel test. Something about the books is that Prim was white with blonde hair and blue eyes (said to have her mother's rich-ish blood) while Katniss has the poor, 'seam look' of dark hair and brown skin. There was a lot of segregation/racial commentary in the series. You don't have to be an adult to read books.
Actually I feel like Madge was the one who “sparked” the revolution if you will. She was the one who gave the mockingjay pin to Katniss in the books. That was the inspiration! I really wish the movies would’ve included her character. She was really underrated.
"Gale is a jerk"
"Finnick is actually nice"
Seriously?! Read the books.
And btw, according to me, Rue started the revolution
For real, like how would you think as a child that Finnick is rude? My man saved countless of lives and people are just now realizing the good he did-? Gale is a jerk, imo, and Rue was revolutionary and the sweetest little innocent girl who should’ve lived a much longer life.
I just realised how baby faced Jennifer Lawrence was in the first movie.
I read the books and watched this when I was twelve and I caught onto these. I think everybody did because Suzanne Collins is a good and thorough author.
Olivya Healy
You're completely right
Olivya Healy I’m 9 and I am done with the books and I started when I was 9
That Guy why is it always the pre-teens on youtube who always feel the need to announce how old they are
Heather Smith because they don't know better
Olivya Healy yess!! And I was 10 and I completely agree with you
actually Katniss sparkled the revolution the moment she pulled out the berries.
Daniel Swift yeah that’s the exact moment everything changed. Cinna lighting their outfits on fire in the first parade was just to get them some attention to be liked. It wasn’t until after she did that that it was turned into a symbol.
@@cordsandwires3038 not really, Cinna has a major role in the rebellion, in the first book he's even the one to mention a rebellion, because he already planned Katniss to be its symbol. He chose to be district 12 stylist, he made up the girl on fire image, he trusted katniss that she should be herself to win the games. He is the pillar of the rebellion. If you read the book you would know Cinna thought of the rebellion
Vairani Harapoi I know he thought of the rebellion and made it come to life but he didn’t know katniss before the first games. He felt inspired by her to be the image of the rebellion but he didn’t pre plan for any of that.
@@cordsandwires3038 I think it started much earlier than that. I think it started with Rue.
Yes and no. It was Rue who told Katniss where Peeta was. Without Rue telling her, Katniss wouldn’t have ever found Peeta, he would have died due to his blood poisoning, and Katniss would have been crowned victor. So it was When Katniss pulled the Nightlock like Snow said, but if you go to the root of the cause, it was Rue who started it. I know by that logic, you can pin it on Snow for hosting the annual Hunger Games, but there have be 73 previous Hunger Games and without Rue, it would have been another ordinary Games.
What strike me the most at a young age was realizing that Snow was right in his thinking and that Coin was actually more bad.
I actually will admit I gained a little bit of respect for Snow when he was thinking about the things that Coin did to the capitol. I am in no way justifying what he did and saying it was right, but I think Katniss was forgetting “who the real enemy was”, or in better words “who the worse enemy was”. In the Mocking Jay I found him quite humorous and enjoyed the ways he messed with people’s heads when they blamed him for the bombing. And the coughing blood stuff was perfection.
Gosh, I was 13 when I read the books and all of this was obvious to me then. It doesn't take a genius or even an adult even to work out what was going on. I understood it perfectly fine when I was 13!!
Also Gale is not a "creep" or a "jerk," he's just totally misunderstood...
Hayley Milas misunderstood ? He kinda killed children
Ube Potterhead de Gryffondor he invented the bombs but if I remember right it was coins call to bomb the hospital
Mitchell Patterson oh yeah. Been a little while since I read the books, sorry lol. Maybe I mixed it up since they were sending in medics so I correlated that? I gotta read those again, good times:):)
He was okay in the first book, but in Catching Fire and Mockingjay, he acted like a complete asshole. He completely neglected Katniss's feelings and thoughts and used him liking Katniss as an excuse. I mean, it's one thing to be jealous of Peeta over it, but not even hearing what Katniss has to say about it is another.
Movie Gale is definitely a jerk, but book Gale wasn't really like that.
t h i s
I think he was...
YES
When i read book gale i wanted to kill him, literally never like the kid. Then at the ending, just oof. I think if i reread it now, i would like him more.
You are right but my opinion is that Gale is worst character in whole series
"Gale is a jerk" "Finnick is nice" pretty sure we all knew this as teens, reading the books
and yet most people still ship Gale 😧
Kyle Williamson i didn't read the books or watched the films.
What am i doing here 😅
Gale is a jerk, I agree. i don't know why people don't see that.
SpiceTheFox At first I shipped them just because I didn’t like Peeta 😂
how can u even think gale is a jerk i’m in love with him
Katniss and Peeta’s whole thing is that they save EACH OTHER
ANYONE who read the books know every single one of these. I mean like, I’m I don’t even know if I’m a young adult yet.
Gale's a creep and a jerk? Have you read the book's? Or actually listened to the movies? He said she couldn't do anything with the deer because it was the day where tributes were being chosen. The Capital's men were everywhere and its illgeal to go past the gate (and hunt). If she drags a deer with a bunch of police around there is no way she wouldn't get caught. Gale loved her and even got whipped for hunting.
I totally agree! Gale is a nice guy in love with Katniss. Obviously he will be jealous towards Peeta! Its not rocket science, guys!!
Mya Atkins I mean yeah I get your point but he was being a jerk by saying horrible things about peeta even though katniss had already told him that they were torturing peeta
Andrea Ruiz I get your point but the whole being of Mockingjay had me just waiting around for her to get herself. I get she's young but she's smart enough to realize that you shouldn't put the few before the many. She risked a lot of people to save peeta and he's pretty useless. Plus he repeatedly tried to kill her and they had to take the time to rehabilitate him. This only slowed everyone down, put useful lives in danger, and wasted resources. That's why I side with Gale.
She's saying in the movies specifically though
I was waiting until I saw this comment!! Thank you!!
Gale wasn't a jerk until the very end when the author needed a valid reason for Katnis to pick Peeta.
He wasn't a bad guy, but he had anger and revenge issues all along.
Gale was angry, selfish, and arrogant. He had good qualities too. He was strong, determined, loyal. But his bad qualities wayyy over powered his good ones. He and Katniss were way too alike. Katniss was also angry, arrogant and selfish, and Katniss even says at the end of the mockingjay book that Gale had a fire in him that she had too much of herself, and she didn’t want that. Gale was kinda always a jerk. Everything was about him.
Eh, in the first two films/books, Gale wasn't really apart of the story, but in Mockingjay, we see more of Gale's character and realize he's not really all that good. Peeta was the obvious choice from the beginning.
Bri Stark girl he was a jerk all 3 books idk what you were reading
I don't like that they used the term "jerk." He had valid reasons for behaving the way he did but like others mentioned, and the author herself wrote, he had a fire inside him that wasn't healthy for Katniss. She had a fire inside of her as well and the two of them together only creates what? A bigger fire. Because of that, he would have never let Katniss move on and provide proper closure like Peeta did. Gale wasn't necessarily a bad guy but he wasn't a good one either. Not for Katniss at least. She needs someone like Peeta who's selfless and kind and forgiving and let's her move on from the past instead of keeping her dwelling in the anger of it all.
Gale isn’t jerk. If you’d read the books it states that the last time they’d killed a deer it had been ripped apart (people were trying to rip chunks off) when they were taking it to be sold, proving gale was right in the first film, though he could have gone about it a different way. Also, Katniss should have realised what would have happened to her if she’d taken a dead deer through District 12 on the day of the reaping, she would have been punished. Furthermore, in catching fire Gale talks her out of it because their families wouldn’t survive Iin the wild. Prim is too sweet to hunt and Gale’s younger siblings aren’t going to be of much use. It would terrify the younger ones too much, Gale wanted to protect them but within 12. Also, Katniss would have been hinted, as se was the only female victor from 12 and she couldn’t leave Peeta behind either. Finally, in Mockingjay Gale reacts with no sympathy to Peeta because he is viewed as a traitor to the rebels, something most of them thought. But Gale has also proven that he didn’t completely hate Peeta, or lived Katniss enough to volunteer in the mission to rescue Peeta and the victors, showing he isn’t that bad, no matter what you say... btw I’m 13 and I knew all of these things.
Shadow Cooper so do you agere with him that he had to kill lots of innocent people, Prim included, not think about casualties or concequenses, to «win» the war?
*agree
I guess I agree but Prim should have been kept away. To be honest, the rebels supplied medics to help the people there, so the plan should have been stopped so none of their own died. Prim was selfless and the plan that killed her was despicable. However, Katniss in the books and films agreed that there should be a hunger games with the Capitols children, so Gale isn’t much worse though Prim deserves better...
Shadow Cooper She didn’t actually agree to another Hunger Games, did you pay attention?? She said it to manipulate Coin into thinking she was on her side. The rebels sent out the medics to make them think it was over. They tried to frame Snow’s people for the explosions.
Shadow Cooper Having it seem like Snow killed Prim, a disgusting and smart move from Coin’s side.
When you said Finnick is actually nice
I wa like”Oh YoU tHiNk?!??!!??!!!?!!
Yeah like no shit
Cinna was very much in on the revolution, he draws up her Mockingjay outfit for the propos…I can’t imagine how sad it would be for Cinna to not have been part of it! So sad he couldn’t see what his work started. One of the most underrated characters.
noticing this has nothing to do with being an adult i’m 15 and I’ve noticed every single one of these things however the majority of them mainly correspond the movies you should read the books
The PTSD is way worse in the books. Haymitch doesnt sleep at night, he always sleeps with a knife and he once didnt get a drink and it said he ran around screaming all day at things only he could see. I just wanted to hug him and make it all okay. I wish that was possible 😢
Oh, why did the hunger games have to end?!?😭😭I miss it so much!!
Because it was a trilogy and it had a happy ending. There was nothing more to add to the story.
A happy ending? You probably haven't seen much of movies.... this wasn't a happy ending.... Pretty Woman had a happy ending.... cliched one and after years I find it an unbelievable happy ending but it had.... most of romantic comedies or comedies got a happy ending.... Silver Linings Playbook had a real life happy ending (even though they still suffered their mental ilnesses) but THG had no happy ending.... with time Katniss and Peeta got a good life but those lost things will always hurt in some kind of a way.... the only thing they can do is move on and try to live as best as they can..... just like many people who have suffered in life. Some people have a good life but many people have gone through bad things just not as bad as Katniss and Peeta.
And I wouldn't wonder if Lionsgate came with something maybe it won't have Jennifer and the original cast in it anymore but they could easily come with something from the same universe.
I like to think of the ending as "bitter sweet"
I wish they would make books about other hunger games. Like the one Mags won, or the one Haymitch won.
Glad this video pointed out the switched gender roles, because that's one of my favorite things about this series. Katniss is emotionally unavailable for most of the books and movies, while Peeta is kind, altruistic and forgiving. Very much the opposite qualities you see in Hollywood for women and men. I also appreciate Suzanne Collins making Katniss such an imperfect, even unlikeable character at times. She's real and complex, and I think Jennifer Lawrence played her beautifully.
2:30 she couldn't do anything with the deer because it was the Reaping Day so she couldn't have sell it to anyone without the Peacekeepers noticing and hunting for food was illegal and anyone who read the like 50 pages of the first book or watched that scene would know this even kids because it was explained
Exactly
Like ... I can't be the only one noticing these things at eleven?
lol same these are obvious... except i think gale isn't a jerk... people need to read the books before making judgements bc the movie leaves out a lot of stuff
lmao factsssss
Same tho
TsukiKabanoki hello my young friends
NOPE. You're NOT. Even though i'm not eleven?!!!!!!!! LOL
Something you may not have noticed is that Peeta’s designer doesn’t really get much credit for branching out of the “coal miner” role which isn’t really fair
They have the same designer
@Alana Hamer Katniss’ designer is Cinna, and Peeta’s is Portia, she’s in the movie, just not mentioned much or even introduced I don’t think. But she is more involved in the book.
“It’s easy to miss that snow bleeds from his mouth” YEAH ITS SO EASY TO MISS LIKE I NEVER NOTICED THAT REALLY?? 🤯🤯🤯
"Gale is a jerk"
Peeta x Katniss shippers: well, we all knew that
“11, is a direct reference to slavery. If you escape or break rules you are whipped.”
let’s say it together now....
“SO ARE ALL THE OTHER DISTRICTS, DID YOU NOT SEE GALE GET WHIPPED?”
Ikr
Finnick still explains the snow whole drinking poison thing in the movie but nobody notices it because they play that at the same time as the rescue mission
Maddie Evans he also tells about the prostitution if I remember correctly. Basically everything they listed as being left out of the movies was actually in them. And everything they said was shocking was obvious and a central point of the story.
Only an oblivious fool wouldn't know these
Elliot Ellis Or a sweet, naïve child.
Tbh it's unlikely a sweet naive child is watching this video, even if they like the hunger games, this is far from the first thing that would come up when searching for it
Elliot Ellis that's strange. I'm a child
Well depending on your definition of a child, should you even had read this book? I think it was marketed for a 12(+) audience, and children of that age should understand those themes (and instead of naivety, I would call that oblivious for that age). My definition of a child is 4-10 (after that they are a pre-teen), and in no way would I expect a child of this age to read this book, nor would I encourage it. And anyone older, I would presume that they're either reading it out of interest (in which they would like to understand the concepts presented) or for school (in which they have to understand the concepts presented-or use wiki). Props to you if you're under 10 and read it, but I honestly think you should enjoy your youth instead of watching The Lists videos, not that they don't have informative videos, but you'll regret not doing more in the future. Especially when you get into university, you won't even have time to go out during the weekend, and that is extremely saddening. So enjoy freedom while it lasts
Hey, i'd say im not a fool. I did NOT know about the first one at all, there is even a rule like that in hollywood?
Rue also played a massive role in the revolution (well mainly her death)
Another one that wasn’t listed is that Seneca knew how to put on a good show, but snow would never be satisfied by anyone.
So Gale is a “Jerk” because he disagrees with Katniss?
No he was a jerk for helping Coin, the corrupt president of district 13 with the murder of Katniss's sister Prim because he loved the power and had so much hatred built for the capitol that he would kill thousands of innocent children and medical helpers who were simply trying to help injured children (and these were the people on his side). Also he was insanely jealous and selfish at the fact that Katniss was trying to survive the Hunger Games but his own ego couldn't accept the possibility that she went through some terrible things and had to do things to keep herself alive like faking love with Peeta.
He didn't even have the right to be jealous as they were never dated and never had a romantic interaction before the games and he suddenly wanted her just because someone else had her. Seems like a jerk to me... doing the wrong things for the right reasons doesn't make it right.
@@annas.2151 you need to get your facts straight and learn some basic human psychology. First, Gale likely had no knowledge of Coin's plan to use Prim the was she did. If you don't recall, the war was a ways away from over when Katniss went rouge in the Capitol. As far as anyone there knew, Prim was in 13 still becoming a doctor. What I am saying is with Gale out of communication with 13 at the time Coin would have made the decision to deploy Prim, there would be no way for him to know about Coin's plan. On the subject of the bombs that killed Prim, they did not intend on using it on 13's medics, matter of fact it was only talked about in concepts, ones that would be used against the capitol (page 186 of Mockingjay). Even if Gale knew that it may have been used against Prim, he would have likely done everything in his power to stop Prim from being killed because he loves Katniss, and thus to keep her happiness alive, Prim would be alive. What I am saying there is if he knew about it then he would be making the choice to kill Prim, which would be directly hurting Katniss, which is something that people in love with another do not do. On the note of Gale loving Katniss you stated (this is a direct quote with the grammatical errors included) "He didn't even have the right to be jealous as they were never dated and never had a romantic interaction before the games and he suddenly wanted her just because someone else had her." This is just flat out WRONG. Gale had wanted Katniss for more than 6 months BEFORE the games began. On page 199 of Mockingjay, Katniss asks Gale "So when did I become so special? When they carted me off to the Capitol?" and Gale responds with "No. About six months before that. Right after New Year's. We were in the Hob, eating some slop of Greasy Sae's. And Darius was teasing you about trading a rabbit for one of his kisses. And I realized... I minded." This proves that Gale had been loving Katniss for quite some time before the games even began, and thus before she was with someone else, which establishes reasonable grounds for jealousy and resentment towards Peeta. Again, that is simple psychology, and doesn't make one a jerk. There are more points that I can make towards Gale not being a jerk, but this post is getting long and it's almost 4 a.m. where I live. If you decide to argue this further, please get your facts straight and use evidence to make an actual argument.
@@wrkkvikrmvh1023 even if Gale didn't know Prim was going to die, he still was ok with hundreds of innocent people dying to the bomb. Also, in the books, he wasn't even sorry about Prim dying.
Gale confessed his love for Katniss even when he thought Katniss wasn't faking being in love with Peeta.
Katniss and Gale had some romantic interaction, but they had never dated, and when Gale said the idea that Katniss and him would have kids together, Katniss immediately got scared, never wanting to have kids or get married. There are some points of Gale being selfless (saving Peeta) but overall he was a big jerk.
@@Anita-nu2uo I believe with Gale's mindset he wpuld be ok if hundreds of innocent CAPITOL (I only capitalized that because I dont know how to italicize text on a phone) citizens died because of his rage towards the capitol (I dont have the books in front of me currently, but if I did I would cite his outburst in Distict 2 when talking about his plan to take down the Nut).
After he was taken by Peacekeepers in the Capitol, there was no mention of him until it said he was mopping up Peacekeepers in a district (District 2 I believe), so there is no way to know if he felt bad or not about Prim dieing.
I mentioned where Gale confessed his feelings for Katniss (which was after Peeta entered the mix) already.
I could be wrong about this, but I dont think that Gale ever mentioned having kids with Katniss. There was the conversation that they had outside the district about running off in Catching Fire where he said it would be easy if it were not for all the kids (implying his siblings, Prim, and thier moms). I do know that it was stated once or twice her feelings towards kids/marriage in general, but I don't think that it was ever talked about kids with Gale specifically.
I'm going to edit this post once I get my books in front of me to cite pages, which may be tommorow, so sorry if it takes some time.
Edit: I was wrong about the conversation where they talked about running away, it was in book 1 page 9 and 10.
Gales outburst in the conversation of how to take down the Nut is on page 204 and 205 of Mockingjay.
@innocentdumpling The day I made that post I was irritated with other things (so I was in a little of a sour mood) and when I saw him pounce on the person that made the original post it ticked me off. I know that opinions are a thing, but if you look at the original post and the response to it, then compare my response to that first response (sorry of that is hard to follow, but I forgot their names) you can see that I did essentially the same thing, but in a more extreme way. Yes it was probably more extreme than I should have made it, but I wanted it to REALLY (used capitals because I don't know how to italicize text on phone) get my point across. Also, I where ever I cited somthing, it was a fact, which I then explained to show how it pertained to my argument. I was treating this more like a debate, so I was using my skills in that field (I am part of a debate club) to make my argument, and one of my favorite strategies is to discredit my opponent as much as possible.
Oh I must have been a smart lil cookie bc I knew all of this lol
Dashawn Slaughter ehehe samee
Dashawn Slaughter same from the first time I read the books when I was 11😂
r/iamverysmart
Yeah, I read these in 4th grade and got all of this. Lol
me too because in the book Cinna has designed armour for Katniss, so he knew what hemwas doing in terms of a revolution.
Uhm the whipping and fence around district 11 have nothing to do with that district symbolizing slavery, all districts had an electric fence and peace keepers the only noticeable different thing in 11 is the brown skin
Donna Matisse they complete disregarded the scene when the new head peace-keeper is whipping Gale IN district 12
doesnt matter these days. if there is a large group of people of color and there are whites whipping them then its symbolizing slavery. no exceptions.
Calling gale a jerk would be ridiculous.
Ruthless would be the right word.
I'd say that fits his description....
Chandan Bhowal I dislike Gale
Peeta is also artistic and creative! One of my favourite male characters in literature.
To be fair, district 12 is also surrounded by an electric fence and guarded by peacekeepers. They just left the power off usually until attention was brought to 12 due to the 74th games victors. Katniss and Gale were hunting illegally and going beyond that fence, whether it was turned on or not, was a BIG no-no.
3:59 ever notice how much this looks like Auschwitz? the high and long wall entrance, and the train track leading to it... don't know if it was intentional, but that's what it reminds me of
why would i want to rewatch the movies when i can reread the books .. and all those points are super obvious
Except all of the lower districts have electric fences and guards who whip.
I find it ironic that at the time i'm writing this, your comment has 11 likes. It is a contingency if it gets more likes.
Also they control all of the food of course they’ll be more brutal
are we not gunna talk about how peeta is always getting in trouble or needs help during the games lol
lincia Peeta just isn’t one to fight but he wasn’t useless
In Catching Fire, we find out Haymitch, Plutarch, and Finnick were a part of the revolution at the end, but it is also said that half the tributes were as well as Cinna, Effie, and a lot of people who worked with district 12. Katniss started the revolution because of what she did in the first games with Rue and Peeta. She risked her own life to save them. Then, with Snow announcing the Quarter Quell, it was even announced that everyone was angry. Also, the movie doesn't really show until the end that Enobaria, the girl from district 2, was alive and one of the people a part of the revolution. She helped Johanna separate Katniss by cutting the wire.
Also, the morphling saved Peeta because they were promised to protect both he and Katniss (though Katniss was the one they needed to start the revolution, but if she had lost Peeta during the arena, getting her to cooperate, as seen in Mockingjay when she is angry about Peeta's capture would have been even more difficult)
2:20 'Scoobydoo'
😂
Watch 'a bad lip reading of the hunger games', it changes that whole conversation and it says scooby doo aswell 😂
Naomi Slytherin I know I’ve seen them they’re great especially choo choo go 😂
@@xevaheaton i love choo choo go 😂
Eliza Grace HAHAHAH
HIHIHI
Have these people even read or seen the movies?
U forgot the main one “children in an arena fighting to the death!” 😂
finnick is more than just nice, so much more 😭
#3 Just bc peeta is nice doesn’t mean he’s any less brave, strong, or make him any less a man.
Yeah
gale isn't a jerk, though. he was just honest and let his thoughts speak whenever. he took a big part in this movie, was really helpful and you cannot just narrow his character down to a "jerk". yeah, the bombs were made him, but he thought they were gonna be used on president snow and peacekeepers, not on the girl whose sister he loved - which just sums up a tragic end of their friend/relationship. i think he was greatly written.
When they said “Gale is a creep” I had to laugh
I'm twelve, and these were pretty obvious
You don’t need to be a adult to know finnick is a nice person
2:46 WEll, personally I don't think Gale is a creep. It maybe because he had a rough childhood, or having to take care of his entire family alone and maybe he is emotionally unavailable like Katniss but she does show emotion when its necessary. So I think that we suppose Gale might be a jerk or creep because of his personality which has been moulded by his past.
If u have me wrong, u r great and plz reply why u think so ;)
even when i was 12 and first read the book, ive always hated gale. he just left her at the end
Vera Schijndel Katniss had Peeta, that was explicitly clear. Katniss also sent him away as well. Gale staying with her probably would have done more damage than what he actually did
“Gale is a jerk because he talked katniss out of running away”
Me:wheres finnick
Also me but 5:07 : Odair he is
I love this comment 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Another reason why gale is a jerk, when he was getting everyone out of district 12 in the 3rd movie he “wasn’t able to” get peetas family. He was jealous of peeta and purposely did not save his 2 brothers and parents. He also SPOILER ALERT let prim die. Basically killed her. And he was also okay with letting thousands of innocent people die just to save a couple people. There you go. There are the cold hard facts.
I think what sparked the revolution was when Rue dies actually, I often wondered what would have happened if she had survived until the end. She and katniss showed unity between two districts and not like one and two but they were both selfless with each other and helping the other with no selfish reason. When rue died and katniss was obviously torn not pleased she was one step closer to home, singing for and dressing her in flowers. She also gave a sign from her district to hers which showed a connection between the two. That sparked it and then with the berries at the end the games was pure defiance to the system.
Kind of an arrogant video.. Several of these are either obvious to everyone, or wrong.
-A good book/movie has three-dimensional characters. I would think less of the THG books if Gale had been a jerk/bad guy/evil, but he's not, he has good and bad sides. His bad sides cost him and his friends a lot, so he's a tragic character, really.
-Cinna did *not* spark the revolution. He contributed, but Katniss, unknowingly, was the spark. That was kind of the whole point...
-"Finnick is actually nice"???!!! Give me a break.
Good point about the PTSD, though. If you want to know what it's like in the head of someone who has depression and PTSD, Mockingjay is your book.
Finnick is nice though.
oi my man Gale doesn't deserve this slander
cece x he killed Prim he kinda does
Mattie McCarthy coin killed prim in theory he didn't design the bomb specifically to kill prim !
cece x well he knew what the bomb was capable of!! He didn’t care Prim died!! He only cared if Katniss was mad at him! He honestly didn’t care if he killed someone!!
Mattie McCarthy you have to kill people to win a war. after his life i think he just wanted to do whatever it took for justice
"Cinna actually sparked the revolution"
Uhm... I think that's the most obvious thing in the whole story...
Gale is not a jerk. Idk why everybody hates him. He's literally katniss in male form. He believes in what he's fighting for and is willing to fight for it. Strong. Brave. Literally the only person that protects katniss. And her family.
My 8 year old sister could notice almost everything in this list since it was directly stated in both the books and movies. Also, Gale watched the people he loved die, it's easy to think it might have made him angry. I think Gale had flaws but he was one of the most realistic characters. He watched a power hungry Capitol draw people to get slaughtered every year for his entire life. It's easy to understand him wanting to make anyone involved or even anyone who didn't seem to care pay.
Actually the first spark of rebellion is in the first movie when Peeta and Katniss are the last 2 tributes left and she refuses to kill Peeta, they act in defiance by deciding to kill themselves together rather than killing each other. Seneca Crane surrendered to them and declared them both winners before either one of them died. This is in direct defiance of the capitol as for the past 73 years there has always been one winner, and she managed to manipulate the capitol into going against that rule, humiliating them I front of the whole country. From this point on, there is trouble. After this President Snow visits her to let her know the possible consequences for her actions and threatens to kill everyone she loves. So yea, Cinna didn't spark anything, it was Katniss.
Actually, the first spark in the revolution was when Rue died. Katniss laid flowers around the girl so that the Capitol would see. She knew that the Capitol would have to film Rue getting lifted into the air, it was customary. And when Katniss did the three fingered sign to the camera, it caused a ripple that made District 11 realize how unfair they were being treated. They already knew that they were being treated horribly, but the fact that they made an 12 year old get murdered... It was a cause to break a dam.
But, all districts have a fence
This is so dumb. JUST READ THE BOOKS
ikr like if you read the book youll notice all these things
The revolution was sparked from the moment Katniss pulled out the berries. Like, Cinna helped but the Mockingjay suit wasn't what sparked the revolution. By then, people where already revolting, like 8. Katniss meets two rebels in the woods, trying to find district 13, the head quaters of the revolution. And that was before she became the Mockingjay. So no, there had already been uprisings. The districts were already rebelling.
idk if district 11 is suppose to represent slavery, district 11 is located in the south and therefore would have more black people and the climate allows a lot of agriculture. i understand why people would think that it is slavery but there isnt much racism or sexism in the hunger games.
Pretty obvious if you read the book
Saying that Gale is a Jerk is subjective really, it depends on how you look at it
Also I would like to say that in my experience much more children/teenagers have read the book then adults (Yes this is just in my experience so If its different for someone else, okay)
Half of the time they say "this wasn't covered in the movies" it literally was? Finnick addresses and explains to the entire country that he was forced into prostitution and snow poisoned his competition??
Now that the prequel is out, President Snow’s “poisonous past” is coming to life more and more
The lady who gave katniss the pin basically started the whole thing