Loud 2nd in Lock//In, Won VCT Americas and were 3rd in Champions 2023, it definetely isn't what they wanted but it also isn't so bad to say that they completely imploded
Imploded meaning they lose a lot of what helped them win, going into 2023 they lost sacy and pancada who really did help them win champions, and now going into 2024 they lost aspas
@@Kryogenix2 Even so, it feels wrong to put them in the same category as EG and Acend since Loud are still a top tier team with the potential to win a title, sure if we were talking about the specific roster I would agree but we are talking about the team as an org no ?
@@KatastOrfeasIn this case we are just talking about the specific team that won champs and how that team of players imploded afterwards and the loud roster from 2022 fits that even if the org is still in a good spot
he also talked like tuyz and cauazin were picked right out of ranked like they were very consistent and have been on teams before like Cauazin was on NIP. Also the way he explained louds 1st second and third place made it seem like it wasn’t that impressive where it definitely was, loud got third place and almost beat EG despite aspas not showing up to a post match interviews and sleeping during a time out on there first day. They were a good fucking team and edg and eg did a lot of prep to get them. Yes maybe if they had pancada and sacy they could of done better but really it would of been hard to do better.
Even though Loud loss Sacy and Pancada after winning Champs, its not a really Failed just because they didnt Won another Masters or Champions. They still do great in most of the events
other than TL, they are the only team to have beaten fnatic, and more than once. they were also finalists in lock/in and they were lower finalists in los angeles. people think that just bc they didnt win another major RIGHT AWAY it means they're washed
I don't think LOUD not running it back and going back to back is “completely imploding” or “underperforming”. What happened to Acend is underperforming and imploding. LOUD made it out if groups in every international event the following year.
LOUD 2x VCB Champions (brazil challenge league), Top 2 Masters Reykjavik 2022 Top 1 Champions 2022 Top 2 Lock-In Top 1 VCT Americas Top 3 Champions 2023 since they joined valorant in 2022, in 7 major tournaments they have ended their run on atleast top 3 on 5 of them
i wouldn’t count challenger league and VCT Americas as “major tournaments” ngl. only IL should he considered majors. And LOUD did fell off too, after Masters Madrid
The runner-up curse is crazier Reykjavik 2021 2nd Fnatic / Didn’t make Berlin Berlin 2021 2nd Envy / 12th/9th in Champs Champions 2021 2nd Gambit / 5th/6th in EMEA Stage 1 (didn’t make Iceland) Reykjavik 2022 2nd Loud / 16th-13th in Copenhagen Copenhagen 2022 2nd PRX / 12th-9th in Champs Chanpions 2022 2nd Optic / 8th-5th in Lockin (3/5 of Optic) Lockin 2023 Loud 2nd / 8th-7th in Tokyo Tokyo 2023 EG 2nd / 1st in Champs so no more curse R.I.P
Don't think LOUD imploded just because they lost Sacy and pAncada. Tuyz and cauanzin managed to fill up the gaps the two left. 2nd in Lock/In, won VCT Americas and 3rd in Champs 2023. LOUD still improved in 2023 and maintained their prowess.
video idea : best 5 players and coach(dream team) for every region and explain why they are picked to make the video longer....also maybe add restrictions so that not many are from the same team
That match vs 100thieves was a blessing in disguise, they’re really a young team back then thieves gameplan was so obvious, yet the crumble and playing against the veterans like hiko,nitro,ethan, exposed them, but also help them to be more calm even in in tight scenarious.
Surprised my idea actually got picked lol, it'd be funny but unlikely to choose my idea again so: the rise of EDG(china not being as bad as everyone thought)
Loud wasn't a fail & EG as an org just split ways, I get the use of clickbait but its completely untrue. Loud still qualified for every international the following season & iirc made it out of group stage in each one. And we already knew EG was losing their core (if not their entire valorant team) WAY before champs even started. So if anything, that all in project was an unbelievable success.
I think "failed" is a bit of a strong word to use especially to describe Loud. Sure pancada and sacy may have been replaced by cauanzin and tuyz, but honestly they were still one of my top contenders for being the champs in 2023. They were extremely strong in their showing, made it to every tournament, went strong for most of them, but you gotta give them a bit of slack too. Despite being one of the teams that should have been studied more often by teams as well with them being the champions and all, Pre-EG's rise in 2023, they were definitely still america's #1 seed. Took out such a dominant force in fnatic twice in champs (though i get that fnc may have been tired from winning masters back to back, but its still a feat nonetheless), won 2-1 against EG in champs, fell to prx 1-2 but still put up a fight. It's a bit of a stretch to say a team "failed" if they don't win back to back world tournaments, but still continued to put up a good performance. It's a bit weird to say that the "curse" is only now about to start to affect Loud with the loss of aspas, but honestly the roster even without aspas is still a strong foundation. A player with the sort of quality aspas brought to the table is rare, yes, but the rest of the roster shouldn't be discredited either.
Yo first I thought bro did very dirty to poor YT/@sageweifu (His first title was Champion Curse: Why teams break apart after becoming World Champions). But looks like it was just a co-incident but what are the chances lmao. Anyway both made great vids and hats of to both of you.
@@bazej5202 nope the rules have changed since then if you did the same can today you wouldn’t get banned it literally just saw through a slither of a panel
Aspas could keep "fighting" with less, because Loud less became Loud CEO after americas i think or a little later, so as CEO he could easily convince playhard (loud owner) to kick Aspas, if it took longer aspas would go to lev, and it would be even worse, making one of Valorant GOATs get to a "bad" team bc there are players that carry their team every single match and the same thing could happen with aspas
Can we see a more personal where u rank the teams based on their cohesiveness just like a ranking list which is the most cliche thing to ask but I wanna see what YOU think!
Gambit should’ve won Champions 2021, they were the best champions team against anyone in their prime. They would’ve won two tournaments in a row, which was unheard of at the time. The tournament was masters Berlin and gambit won against Envy (AKA Optic) in grand Finals. 6:30 that’s a hard match for NAVI because Liquid got Gambits two best players, Regard (wholesome IGL) and nAts (best Cypher and Viper player in the world).
How did LOUD fail if they legit went 2nd in reykjavik, 1st in istanbul, 2nd in lock//in, 3rd in LA and now 2nd of 2024 americas kickoff. Their only bad events were Copenhagen, and Tokyo
Would actually be interested in seeing a video about valorant ecosystem and whether its sustainable as it is. With state of tier 2 and Collegiate, are career opportunities open in valorant? What happens after you have to retire from valorant? What are other opportunities apart from a player, coaches or managers?
Loud dropped to prx and not eg in champs... how tf did loud "underperform"? HOW IS IT CLEAR THEY ARE CURSED?!?!?! omg such a bad analysis, NA always underestimating brazilians
This is just a bunch of bullcrap. Powerhouse contenders like Team liquid, Tsm and myriad other teams faced the same fate despite not winning the championships.
Sorry will probably always mispronounce players. Got a speech issue due to a head injury playing American football. Had a stutter for a bit. Usually I will always mess up words that aren't words I say everyday even if I've heard them before (since I have to watch every clip that I place in the video, I've usually heard every name a lot). But it will always happen. Might use an AI voice for names but thought that would be lame
@@eSportsAndy sorry I wasn't aware, I hope you're doing well! Could you possibly mention that in your future videos? Just something simple to state that it's not ignorance, rather your head injury.
Loud 2nd in Lock//In, Won VCT Americas and were 3rd in Champions 2023, it definetely isn't what they wanted but it also isn't so bad to say that they completely imploded
Imploded meaning they lose a lot of what helped them win, going into 2023 they lost sacy and pancada who really did help them win champions, and now going into 2024 they lost aspas
@@Kryogenix2 Even so, it feels wrong to put them in the same category as EG and Acend since Loud are still a top tier team with the potential to win a title, sure if we were talking about the specific roster I would agree but we are talking about the team as an org no ?
@@KatastOrfeasIn this case we are just talking about the specific team that won champs and how that team of players imploded afterwards and the loud roster from 2022 fits that even if the org is still in a good spot
he also talked like tuyz and cauazin were picked right out of ranked like they were very consistent and have been on teams before like Cauazin was on NIP. Also the way he explained louds 1st second and third place made it seem like it wasn’t that impressive where it definitely was, loud got third place and almost beat EG despite aspas not showing up to a post match interviews and sleeping during a time out on there first day. They were a good fucking team and edg and eg did a lot of prep to get them. Yes maybe if they had pancada and sacy they could of done better but really it would of been hard to do better.
Props to Saadhak
Even though Loud loss Sacy and Pancada after winning Champs, its not a really Failed just because they didnt Won another Masters or Champions. They still do great in most of the events
other than TL, they are the only team to have beaten fnatic, and more than once. they were also finalists in lock/in and they were lower finalists in los angeles. people think that just bc they didnt win another major RIGHT AWAY it means they're washed
LOUD lost to FNC in Lock in finals, but LOUD got their revenge from preventing them to get the champions
the best rivalry of the year
I die a little on the inside every time he says "Kakuzin" 😂😂
fr its not even hard to find the right pronunciation as well; all you have to do is watch a LOUD game
The way he pronounces “Jawjemo” too😭
Judgemo is another one
@@dcper608 kawazin
Ik lmao, I was like “what a fucking idiot”
Absolutely butchered cauanzin and jawgemo 😭
he also said benjyfish
i thouught i was tripping
@@undisputedgoat77
i won't ever subscribe because i hate the ai voiceover in all his videos
@@Shwiskey honestly I had no clue it was ai that’s crazy
@@cinro_val i don't think it is, just sounds like ai
I don't think LOUD not running it back and going back to back is “completely imploding” or “underperforming”. What happened to Acend is underperforming and imploding. LOUD made it out if groups in every international event the following year.
loud is the only team not disappointing in any tournament if they had pancada and sacy it could changed the results even more
boy oh boy do i have some news for you
10:07 there's no way you miss pronounced Cauanzin this bad LOL
cawkazin KKKKKKKK
brazilian names are weird
aint no way he still mispronounces it with the hundreds of games Loud played last season xdd
@@Twizzlerss-my2ok nah "cow-an-zhin" is chill
Youd think making a video like this he would bother to read the players names
LOUD
2x VCB Champions (brazil challenge league),
Top 2 Masters Reykjavik 2022
Top 1 Champions 2022
Top 2 Lock-In
Top 1 VCT Americas
Top 3 Champions 2023
since they joined valorant in 2022, in 7 major tournaments they have ended their run on atleast top 3 on 5 of them
i wouldn’t count challenger league and VCT Americas as “major tournaments” ngl. only IL should he considered majors.
And LOUD did fell off too, after Masters Madrid
Can't wait to seeJudgemo and kakuseen next season.
"kakuzin"
WHO THE FU-
The runner-up curse is crazier
Reykjavik 2021
2nd Fnatic / Didn’t make Berlin
Berlin 2021
2nd Envy / 12th/9th in Champs
Champions 2021
2nd Gambit / 5th/6th in EMEA Stage 1 (didn’t make Iceland)
Reykjavik 2022
2nd Loud / 16th-13th in Copenhagen
Copenhagen 2022
2nd PRX / 12th-9th in Champs
Chanpions 2022
2nd Optic / 8th-5th in Lockin (3/5 of Optic)
Lockin 2023
Loud 2nd / 8th-7th in Tokyo
Tokyo 2023
EG 2nd / 1st in Champs so no more curse R.I.P
*cries in Optic* Still love LOUD!
Great video man!
this curse aint touching my bois in EDG surely this message doesn't age like milk XD
Don't think LOUD imploded just because they lost Sacy and pAncada. Tuyz and cauanzin managed to fill up the gaps the two left. 2nd in Lock/In, won VCT Americas and 3rd in Champs 2023. LOUD still improved in 2023 and maintained their prowess.
I had to check the comments to see if i was the only one who heard how he said Cauanzin
video idea : best 5 players and coach(dream team) for every region and explain why they are picked to make the video longer....also maybe add restrictions so that not many are from the same team
10:07 tuez and cacuzin??????? what is bro saying
Aged like milk, COME ON SACYYY SEN WIN WOOOOO ❤️❤️❤️
That match vs 100thieves was a blessing in disguise, they’re really a young team back then thieves gameplan was so obvious, yet the crumble and playing against the veterans like hiko,nitro,ethan, exposed them, but also help them to be more calm even in in tight scenarious.
Surprised my idea actually got picked lol, it'd be funny but unlikely to choose my idea again so: the rise of EDG(china not being as bad as everyone thought)
And now, Eg, newest champions, not a single one of the players from the 2023 roster made it to Madrid in their new teams. Curse is real
Crazy!!!
Cockuzin? Bro a pro named themselves that damn
bro i swear this guy is mispronouncing names for engagement 😭
"KAKUZIN" "SAKY" HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
ikkk, and jawjeemo
your channel is honestly underrated
so basically if u didnt do back to back sweeps u automatically "imploded"?
They all feelin bigger than the team.. none of em stayed together
Jokes on you Sacy won SENCITY let's gooooo
PRX: we choke for good 😂
Loud wasn't a fail & EG as an org just split ways, I get the use of clickbait but its completely untrue. Loud still qualified for every international the following season & iirc made it out of group stage in each one. And we already knew EG was losing their core (if not their entire valorant team) WAY before champs even started. So if anything, that all in project was an unbelievable success.
I think "failed" is a bit of a strong word to use especially to describe Loud. Sure pancada and sacy may have been replaced by cauanzin and tuyz, but honestly they were still one of my top contenders for being the champs in 2023. They were extremely strong in their showing, made it to every tournament, went strong for most of them, but you gotta give them a bit of slack too.
Despite being one of the teams that should have been studied more often by teams as well with them being the champions and all, Pre-EG's rise in 2023, they were definitely still america's #1 seed. Took out such a dominant force in fnatic twice in champs (though i get that fnc may have been tired from winning masters back to back, but its still a feat nonetheless), won 2-1 against EG in champs, fell to prx 1-2 but still put up a fight. It's a bit of a stretch to say a team "failed" if they don't win back to back world tournaments, but still continued to put up a good performance.
It's a bit weird to say that the "curse" is only now about to start to affect Loud with the loss of aspas, but honestly the roster even without aspas is still a strong foundation. A player with the sort of quality aspas brought to the table is rare, yes, but the rest of the roster shouldn't be discredited either.
Loud is the only team that escaped the curse
well, didn't Loud lose pretty much every player on the team that made the team genuinely feel like loud?
placement wise they're able to
but winning wise might be cursed
only time will tell
nope@@GH0STvalNOR
@@TheHelderVinicius They don't neven have aspas anymore tho
Less is the goat bro@@GH0STvalNOR
5:50 This is not hist first time. He played for BBL dont you remember ?
Yo first I thought bro did very dirty to poor YT/@sageweifu (His first title was Champion Curse: Why teams break apart after becoming World Champions). But looks like it was just a co-incident but what are the chances lmao. Anyway both made great vids and hats of to both of you.
finally someone talk about this.. i've alwyas got feeling about this "curse"
Aside from Masters Tokyo, LOUD had a pretty great season. What are you on about?
I come back to this video every now and then to hear him pronounce Cockzin😭
10:08 cacuzin 🤨
Thank you so much for this video ❤
cah-wa-zeen
Jaw-guh-mo
How about a video about VCT Ascension and where all the winners are now
"they seemed to collapse" how is winning a league and getting 3rd at champs collapsing 😂😂
Loud humbled fanatic in champions respect to them
tbf ascend lost to vivo keyd but the maqtch got replayed because of an "illegal cam" (it wasnt) and were also givin 7 rounds in the rematch
It was illegal cam and they should be disqualified.
@@bazej5202 nope the rules have changed since then if you did the same can today you wouldn’t get banned it literally just saw through a slither of a panel
Or maybe this game is just dependent on a meta that will be completely changed after a single update
1:39 cned matching WHO?
Brother how did you manage to mangle Cauanzin like that? Just sound it out or listen to a cast, you did him dirty lmao
Wake me when OpTic make franchising.
Aspas could keep "fighting" with less, because Loud less became Loud CEO after americas i think or a little later, so as CEO he could easily convince playhard (loud owner) to kick Aspas, if it took longer aspas would go to lev, and it would be even worse, making one of Valorant GOATs get to a "bad" team bc there are players that carry their team every single match and the same thing could happen with aspas
did you take inspiration to make this video from a comment in one of the vct champs community posts?
I got a comment in my last video to make a video about it!
LOUD doesn't fit the "Champs curse" narrative at all.
By this logic any team that doesn’t win a tournament is a complete failure. Ridiculous.
Can we see a more personal where u rank the teams based on their cohesiveness just like a ranking list which is the most cliche thing to ask but I wanna see what YOU think!
am i missing something, where is SEN?
sen never won a champs
Sen won the first masters, not champs.
If Loud was NA or EU, I'm sure people would praise them as the Best team ever and the most consistent team in the world.
Gambit should’ve won Champions 2021, they were the best champions team against anyone in their prime. They would’ve won two tournaments in a row, which was unheard of at the time. The tournament was masters Berlin and gambit won against Envy (AKA Optic) in grand Finals. 6:30 that’s a hard match for NAVI because Liquid got Gambits two best players, Regard (wholesome IGL) and nAts (best Cypher and Viper player in the world).
Well, “NRG winning americas” aged well
Sacy seems to have gotten exorcised and gotten rid of curse (I hope I don't jinx it)
tuez and cacuzin
What about the First Strike champions? 100 Thieves is practically self-explanatory (hell, just look at Season 1), but what about the others
How did LOUD fail if they legit went 2nd in reykjavik, 1st in istanbul, 2nd in lock//in, 3rd in LA and now 2nd of 2024 americas kickoff. Their only bad events were Copenhagen, and Tokyo
I don't know where did you get the information about Aspas and Less issue but it is just wrong lol
i dont know abt EVERY game, but cod has a champs curse and has been in the league for yearssss
Honestly got to check that out. Been trying to branch my knowledge out to other eSports!
love the videos Andy but please double check your pronunciation of some players names...
i dont think cock-oo-zin would approve (10:07)
Would actually be interested in seeing a video about valorant ecosystem and whether its sustainable as it is. With state of tier 2 and Collegiate, are career opportunities open in valorant? What happens after you have to retire from valorant? What are other opportunities apart from a player, coaches or managers?
Who tf is kakuzin😅😅
Welp EG also has the curse cuz all of them arent in kickoff
cow-an-zeen for the love of god LMFAO
Okay sorry i might be really dumb here but weren’t sentinels the first world champions?! My mind has kinda blanked, pls can someone respond
I think they were the first masters winners but they haven’t won a championship
@@Frgres-zka32 ahh okay tysm
why he pronounce cauanzin as cawk-oozin
I love your videos, your doing a great job.
hard to take this video seriously after he pronounced cauanzin like a dragonball z character
fnatic vs loud one of the best comeback ever 🙉
I would love to help make and research for ur videos lmao
lmao loud is the most internationally present team in the scenario since 2022, what u on
how do you manage to call benjyfishy "benjyfish" and even worse, how do you manage to call cauanzin "kaquzin"
the only players still doing ok in 2024 who won championships r the ones in lev
The s sounds are too sharp, hurt my ears
sentinels break the curse
They’re not champions, only masters
Let’s see edg
easy , every patch had agent changes
Gambit run was better than acend champions run, the grand finals was just unlucky
why did you call yay gay?
this means the team which loses in the finals of maters in that year wins the champions ........ also they win 3-1
for an esports channel bro hasnt watched a single match bruh did these guys dirty with cockazin and judgemo :(((
That would mean SENTINELS will never be imploded!??????
com isnt a smokes player like he is one of the best sovas in the world
im in love with this guy
this guy is fucking high? wtf
Loud dropped to prx and not eg in champs... how tf did loud "underperform"? HOW IS IT CLEAR THEY ARE CURSED?!?!?! omg such a bad analysis, NA always underestimating brazilians
Sacy be like
cNed matching gay 1:40 xD
That's why FNC is intensionally playing bad in champs😂
at 10min bro pronounced cauanzin cakuzin
KAKAZIN?
How are u miss pronouncing names like caunzin and jawgemo this bad, it's like you don't even watch vct
cockawsin is crazyyy
This is just a bunch of bullcrap. Powerhouse contenders like Team liquid, Tsm and myriad other teams faced the same fate despite not winning the championships.
LOUD still on the top after win champions
ACEND lost and got carried by Riot Games. NOT WINNERS
nice video but... it's actually crazy how many nicknames you miss pronounced 💀
Shows how he doesn’t watch the esport
Sorry will probably always mispronounce players. Got a speech issue due to a head injury playing American football. Had a stutter for a bit. Usually I will always mess up words that aren't words I say everyday even if I've heard them before (since I have to watch every clip that I place in the video, I've usually heard every name a lot). But it will always happen. Might use an AI voice for names but thought that would be lame
Just keep trying your best bro you will get better eventually @@eSportsAndy
@@eSportsAndy sorry I wasn't aware, I hope you're doing well! Could you possibly mention that in your future videos? Just something simple to state that it's not ignorance, rather your head injury.