Why NRG were DESTINED to Fail...
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NRG are going through what sen went through last year
except sen went through this since 2022
@@VVSPRINCE sen didnt have a great team in 2022
@@VVSPRINCE what OP meant is, sen 2023 built a roster that was considered by many as a superteam, similar to nrg 2024, with 2 of the champions of the previous year, and a player (for sen it was tenz, for nrg's case 2 players which is victor and crashies) they built around. teams were expected to make an event atleast.
but they had the same problems, their star player (demon1, and tenz) don't look as good as they were expected due to being expected to hard entry despite being a lot more comfortable on second entry, having multiple role issues (i mean demon1 on raze when victor's a good raze, sacy on smokes when pancada's one of the best smokes players of 2022), their main duelist (tenz, and demon1) looking absolutely washed and botfragging most games, losing to teams that they shouldn't have. along with that, problems with their coach (chet and sykko) both looking like absolute frauds despite having a good previous year, and igl issues (ethan and dephhh) with both having different problems but still, igl problems.
Difference is NRG hasn’t won anything lol
MEANING THAT THEY WILL WIN THE FIRST MASTERS NEXT YEAR
That team was lacking. No IGL, no great setups for your best fragger, no real entry. All the championship teams we've had have an IGL, a talented fragger, a clutchmaster, and role players that can keep the vibes up. They should've studied the conditions Demon1 would thrive in and make it their win condition. Instead, they made him entry frag. Demon1 has the same aim style as yay. You gather info for them and then let them second entry and clean up. They are not flicky by any means (they can flick but they are the best when fighting calm) so you don't waste the life of the best player on your team mechanically. Bait yourself and get info on the enemy location so they can mentally prepare, come in, and clean up.
I’d argue they could have set Vic up to be a true entry, but the roles would’ve had to switch, they could have worked with roles. Though the igling would still be a problem, it’d fix a lot more problems. Victor is a phenomenal entry, creating a ton of space
@@roelofsonneveld1049 it would work if he can play a fast raze. Nothing bad about how he plays his raze but it isn't what the team needs. Part of the reason Demon1 was so scary in EG was because of Jawgemo. An explosive raze that can cover ground and pull crosshairs away from the second entry
why were NRG destined to fail? cause they were overpressured and didnt have proper roles
because they put demon1 on raze
stop yapping bro what
overpressured is a joke lol
@@deardoue69 his sens is too low for raze is what i believe
@@l3lessedd yea, they were. look at their content! their expectations were too high + during prac, ethan admitted to getting destoyed by tier 2/3 teams. this was before NRG started trolling on the stage.
It's sad that he didn't brought up the disjointed correlations of the teams ever since, well... long ago. The 4-0 lose against BLG and now the 12-5 to 12-14 comeback against C9 made it clear
not to mention, lack of practice and time together
They were just lazy
the rage bait is unreal
Gotta love EG contract jail
@@jameswilson1370 yea :( EG made NRG destined to fail
@@sedboi6283 they practiced everyday after not qualifying for madrid. it somehow made them worse, or at least it seemed to.
While I think the points made in this video were true, most of it is hindsight. Saying that we should've all been able to see it coming doesn't seem right. First of all, a secondary caller turned igl has been seen many times just this season. For example, DRX, Geng, and EDG all have had success this year when they changed igls. With a player like Ethan, who has a lot of experience, I don't think it's unreasonable to think he could've done the same, but alas he didn't.
Second of all, in terms of role issues, I don't think it was very apparent either, as to the average valorant watcher the roles would be;
Demon1 - Jett/Smokes
Marved - controller
Ethan - initiator
Crashies - initiator/flex
Victor - sentinel/Raze
And they would heavily emphasize double initiator and viper + controller maps, and have Victor be the second entry like Boostio did for EG last year. The fact that NRG had role issues despite that, shows that there were deeper problems and teamwork issues going on that people on the outside looking in would not be aware of.
Lastly, in terms of the "vibes" on the team, again, it's hard to know from the outside looking in, but the importance of a "vibe merchant" was not very talked about until Zellsis came in for sentinels this year. Even then, I'm not exactly sure who would be the vibe person on OPTIC, as FNS and yay don't seem like that type of person. It's all speculation which is why I don't necessarily agree with the sentiment that "we should've all been able to see it coming" and that "NRG was destined to fail".
I would highly encourage presenting statistics to back up your points but good video nonetheless.
the yap is criminal
Really well put
@@asdasdasd-cm4jg the problem with the team is that Ethan is an inexperienced IGL and has the sole responsibility of calling the shots. His only experience with calling is as a secondary caller, calling important points mid round. The pressure to know where everybody is and on the same page while playing isn't a skill that could be rushed. They should've kept a real IGL and slowly eased Ethan into the new role. IGLing is a whole another level of Valorant. If it was that easy, all veteran players would be IGLs already.
@@RookeSpecs I've shown three examples of when secondary callers turned igl and did perfectly fine. It's different from person to person. I don't think anybody knew that Ethan wasn't going to do good as an igl but people like Munchkin, Mako, or nobody woluld. I'm not sure how you ease someone into an igl role but if you have experience with this stuff then please tell. I honestly don't think that Ethan did a terrible job all things considered. Obviously it wasn't the best, but if you looked at NRG's macro, a lot of times, they had good ideas but lacked proper teamwork. I also think you are assuming that Ethan is calling all the shots, but they shouldn't be since Marved could've totally filled the second-caller role as he previously igled. I personally think that there was way more issues that we don't know about and you can't just blame one thing on one person.
@@RookeSpecs My whole point is that you and the video are making clear assumptions and acting like you guys know exactly what is going on the team, and also blaming a few specific factors and people. If you knew that Ethan wasn't going to good on igl before the season started then you should be working as an analyst. But to average joes like me I don't think that was very apparent.
tbf boostio choked a 7-11 map 3 for qualification
Also, what he said about china is definitely biting back. BADLY!
@@Sg190th Sen beat EDG-ers 8 or even 9/10 times. they were in terrible form somehow
@@Kavyatejmhm and TE beating LEV and VIT were both complete flukes?
@@daarkivy4011 there are no cheerleaders on LEV mentioned in the video, who can lift the mental up (only zellsis, boosio and one more guy was mentioned)
@@daarkivy4011 and when is TE playing?
People need to realize Chet was the whole problem to begin with. That roster would’ve dominated under any other competent coach.
Its honestly depressing how many so called "esports journalist" with no reputation are bandwagoning the nrg trail of hate. Yeah they didn't perform this year, they realised it themselves and they are sorting it out too, but no everyone wants to get their fair share of "opinion" mixed.I wouldn't even be surprised if this creator is above plat
Projection is one hell of a drug
To be fair, you don't need a high rank to be an analyst. You can know theory and still not be able to put it into the game. An immortal or radiant player can still be bad at analysing gameplay or the theory side of things. Think of chefs. A lot of them know what works. They don't know why it works. It can also go the other way around. Someone can design a great recipe but not know how to cook it.
It's RUclips. Anyone can give their opinion. You must be new to the internet
NRG was dogshit. You did not watch the season LMFAO.
Love NRG's biggest Fan
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Pinned comment was a bit aggressive, but not entirely wrong. This video is well-made, albeit off on a couple of line-reads, but proclaiming that the roster was “destined to fail”, which it was, but not actually mentioning anything about why, is the actual problem. No stats, insight, evidence, just a summary of NRG’s year in story mode and brief highlights of the igl and role issues that even your average bronzie were aware of. If this video was titled “the story of NRG” there’d be no problem… if anyone actually wants to understand the real foundation behind nrg’s failure, check out Platoon’s video, which has real analysis with stats and evidence, not just storytelling.
Edit: I take it back after finishing the video - if you’re gonna make a video that just narrates a storyline, you should probably try a little bit harder on not fucking up the narration. These line-reads sound unpracticed and nervous
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Pin of shame
This guy is right though, the video didn't go in depth whatsoever except for the first reason (Ethan being the IGL). This video didn't show any examples for the second reason (Vibe issues). And the third reason is not a cause as to why they were "destined" to fail (which I agree they were), but more so an effect of that failure in kickoff and stage 1.
I agree with you. The content in the video was much more shallow than the title implied. This video seems more like a surface-level retrospective of "what" happened, rather than an analysis and deep dive of "why" things went down the way they did.
All of NRG has been falling off hard ngl. Sucks to see one of my favorite orgs hitting rock bottom as of late
They literally just didn’t have an igl at first
My thing about Nrg is that they think if they sign the best players they think they are going to win but its not
That's not it, man. It comes down to getting players they pay to perform and bleed Yay, a good example. Put yay on any other team where he is comfortable and agrees with the igl system. Yay, the best again without chamber!
crashies shouldn't be on the roaster now.
Reasons:-
1) crashies is like secondary caller(FNS says this in streams) and they have ethen now who is also initiator
2) crashies don't frag at top, as with FNS other player need to pop off more
4) Probably FNS, crashies, ethen, demon1, s0m will be team and only s0m and demon1 are players that will top frag consistently
crashies n vic r like som n fns if 1 goes the other also does
ehtan is also a heavy fragger , tbh it depends on coach and what role will fns play
yeah eden might b a good secondary caller in replacement for crashies which gives space for a dedicated duelist pick methinks
The only thing i can take away from this is u flat out dont understand valorant passed a ranked experience. Ur argument of sen having a “T2” igl and how nrg was “expected” to win that game is just flat out wrong, let alone u talking about jaw and having a great second frag like EG had just is wrong. Most top teams didnt pass the duelist role around.
Don't understand what this video really says, the title asks why NRG were destined to fail but all you did was just say what happened to them throughout the season. Your only points were that Ethan was bad as an igl (which was obvious) and that there were a "clash of personalities", which we really can't determine if that was the issue. A simple sentence that answers this question is there were role issues at the start of the season that they were never able to fix until they brought fns and s0m but by then it was too late.
I still expect a lot from this nrg roster in 2025. FNS has proven time and time again that you can’t leave him out of the conversation. Give them time and FNS will get demon1 back in goat convos
4:50 unnecessary
No demon1
i knew it was over when they benched demon1 tbh
you forgot to add marved's photo next to victor and crashies
Potter will be the new coach I hope and maybe jawgamo joins to but then crashie gets removed only issue
7:35 every time people talk about NRG last season, its always the cove incident or BLG lmao
what did fns do to deserve this video 😭
stinky player
I love seeing that match fixing rat marved fail in anime game
They should honestly release Demon1 as he clearly doesn't fit into this team. Let him explore diff options from other orgs
If demon1 goes to G2 for Icy they will win next year
@@basedgod8636 Yeah I think demon1 would be great for g2
@@basedgod8636 that would just be a downgrade, once again who's playing raze, trent?
@@amstronglikebull3720 well icy doesnt play jett , so demon1 can play jett
same thing happened with Cloud9 lol
Imagine fns s0m Ethan demon1 and jaw and coach Potter in nrg 2025
Demon1 on raze was crazy
The thing is his Raze wasn't that bad he got to the spots needed but he had zero support they basically sent him to his death or treated him like a skye dog
Who tf is this guy? I respected this guy now I just see him as a clown
You know what ruined this roster? EGO
i just think its absolutely funny that whenever som's name is mentioned (on any video) it must be paired with the cove clip
Who's som?
>> the guy that got fked behind a cove
ohhh that guy
feel bad for the guy, this is the second video in a row I used that clip since I talked about CRGS
Super team 😂
I like the video and effort put into it but Ethan is was never the igl for nrg he was a secondary caller for marved then the team shifted to full calling from fns so
since chet come to nrg i never see them doing something more than shit performances no matter what roster they had
Dude no lie if they beat sen they would have won Madrid
fns humble speedrun
Bro just hates nrg
no evidence or data just speaking out of vibes. Although I do agree with some of the points this isn’t an analysis just a commentary of nrg without any real new insights. Please before you make such a strong statement as “NRG were destined to fail” put some more concrete arguments.
Nrg will comeback harder!!!
Hopefully 😅
they needed ardiis lmao
The reason I believe that NRG failed is they had old washed players like victor and crashies if they wanted to win they should've dropped victor and crashies and brought in tier 2 players to fill those roles.
2023 sen = nrg 2024
Harris Melissa Lee Brian White Brenda
We call it the SEN phase
Thompson William Moore Linda Wilson Sandra
tbh u just coping their fault for throwing 12-5 lead 😂😂
NRG 2024 reminds me of SEN 2023, they will comeback stronger in 2025 I believe.