TRON (1982) MOVIE REACTION! FIRST TIME WATCHING!
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- TRON (1982) MOVIE REACTION! FIRST TIME WATCHING! Polls, early access and full reactions on Patreon / reelreviewswithjen Watch me watch this 1982 sci-fi movie Tron, in this first time watching reaction video! Tron tells the story of a a computer hacker is abducted into the digital world and forced to participate in gladiatorial games where his only chance of escape is with the help of a heroic security program.
The film was written and directed by Steven Lisberger. Tron stars Jeff Bridges as Kevin Flynn,
Bruce Boxleitner as Alan Bradley, Cindy Morgan as Lora, David Warner as Ed Dillinger, Dan Shor
as Ram and Peter Jurasik as Crom.
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_Tron: Legacy_ is a direct sequel to _Tron,_ not a remake. All events in the second movie are related to what Flynn (Jeff Bridges) did in the first.
This, right here.
Another early Jeff Bridges movie was Starman, which also starred Karen Allen from Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Starman is another one of those great, under rated films.
Loved Starman
A question. Was it based on a book, or was the book from the movie?
One of John Carpenter’s few movies that had nothing to do with horror.
Starman is an old favorite of mine.
There was a TV series right after this came out that tried to take advantage of TRON's visual style (it only lasted one season) called Automan. The car turned at 90 degree angles, naturally.
Wow, I remember that show!
And his human partner got slammed into the side window EVERY SINGLE TIME he turned... :-)
@@jamesraykenney best sight gag of the decade cracked me up every time
“On a scale of one to ten… Think of me as an eleven”
Auto man is now on DVD, i bought it
Tron: Legacy is not a remake, it's a direct sequel. After the events of Tron, Flynn became obsessed with getting "back in" and creates the world we see in Legacy. Flynn becomes trapped in that world, and his son finds his way in to rescue him.
OMG, Everyytime she said remake was a truly grueling nails on chalk board pinch to my soul. More research on the content is required.
I came here to say this, but knew in my heart it had already been said.
Hah yeah cringed every time she said remake.
Tron is played by Bruce Boxleitner, who also starred in the 1990s science fiction TV series, Babylon 5.
You're forgetting about "Scarecrow and Mrs. King", where Boxleitner played a CIA agent, and Mrs. King (Kate Jackson - Charles Angels fame) was a suburban divorced housewife.
@@spidersj12 I remember Scarecrow and Mrs. King. I only mentioned Babylon 5 because it's science fiction oriented.
Another actor in this and Babylon 5 is Crom, the program Flynn is forced to fight. That’s Peter Jurasik, who played Londo Molari, although his voice is completely different.
@@gerstelb Yep, I know that's Peter Jurasik(Londo Mollari) as Crom, but I wasn't sure that Jen was all that familiar with Babylon 5. lol
Arcades were huge in 1982, from giant amusement centers to tiny wooden shacks to back rooms in convenience stores. Chuck-E-Cheese was devised as a big arcade with robots, and crappy pizza included as an afterthought (by the founder of Atari!).
Fun Fact: This film was ruled ineligible to be nominated for an Oscar for "Best Visual Effects" because the visual effects were made using computers.
That must have been so frustrating for all the rotoscoping staff who toiled over the film frame by frame.
First extensive use (15 minutes fully computer generated) of 3D CGI including the Light Cycle sequence. Also includes early facial animation.
The reason Sark is afraid of Flynn is because he knows that a user could manipulate things in the computer world because they know the codes to everything. lol
Tron and The Last Starfighter were the first movies to show what computer graphics could do in movies.
The first use of CGI was actually Westworld which used CGI to make The Gunslinger's vision.
Good movie the last starfighter tron was a good movie too the same actress who starred in that film also did night of the comet too😊
Funny fact... Last starfighter is where we get the majority of Buzz lightyear's lore from.
I hope she reacts to "The Last Starfighter."
TRON was a real debugging command, short for TRace ON.
CLU was a reference to the CLU programming language.
The graphics in TRON are a mix of CGI mimicing hand animation and early CGI. The light cycles were CGI.
Bruce Boxleitner (TRON) and Peter Jurasik (CROM) would later star together on Babylon 5. David Warner would also feature in a single episode of the show.
Jen,you really should watch Babylon 5.Intriguing,sometimes challenging and thoughtful ideas in individual episodes,a great overarching mystery,top-notch effects and great makeup for the aliens,characters,and world-building,as well as fine acting.
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The behind the scenes is kind of fascinating. The few scenes that are actually CG had to be plotted out on paper, and it took weeks to render each scene. The rest of the film was done using a combination of live action and airbrushed art, with a special process to make the glowing effects. Costumes were simple white leotards with sports gear covered with patterns of black tape.
They invented the technology that was needed to make this film. But then were denied any Oscars because they used computers which was considered cheating.
I'd forgotten Bruce Boxleitner was in Tron. He'll always be Capt. John Sheridan to me.
Also Crom ( faced Jeff Bridges in the Ring Game ) was played by Peter Jurasik who was Londo in Babylon 5. Sadly I don't think he and Bruce where ever in the same scene together in Tron which would have been cool.
I loved the Tron arcade game so much, a great looking game and cabinet.
So many quarters... so few continues.
@@Weapon01 pretty sure I dropped more than $30 worth of quarters into it.
Not based on a book, but inspired by early Atari video games from the '70s like Pong, Tank, Surround and Breakout. Otherwise it was an original idea created by animator Steve Lisberger.
He didn’t direct much, but Slipstream(1989) was an interesting post apocalyptic movie.
@@oaf-77 Never heard of that film. Gonna have to look into it now.
David Warner, who played Dillinger in this movie, at one time portrayed a possible version of Jack the Ripper in the movie Time After Time.
Sadly it did not contain the Cyndi Lauper song. Lol
That is an absolutely MUST WATCH movie!!!
I enjoyed 'Time After Time'. Time Bandits was another favourite of mine which also starred David Warner.
Yes, she should add "Time After Time" to her list, that was great fun!
No, Tron was not based on a book, Jen. Tron was an original story and was Disney's second attempt at trying to compete in science fiction cinema following the success of Star Wars. 1979's The Black Hole was Disney's first attempt.
At the time, computer games were something completely new and emerging, following, and guiding, the development of computer code. Each New Game was unique in all the universe; the first of it's kind. Tron was a battle/puzzle game which challenged the player to navigate a grid at high speed leaving an impenetrable trail behind for as long as possible before crashing, while one or more other players do the same on the same board. The game became hugely popular, so much so that this movie was crafted from the thrill of the game.
Tron the game had all the modes in the movie, and the movie did not come after the game.
This was early 1980s CGI, Jen. TRON was way ahead of it's time in terms of cyberspace. It was the precursor to The Matrix.
Tron was the first major feature length film to use CGI for a majority of the film.
don't forget "the lawnmower man"
@@ooEVILGOAToo Except, "The Lawnmower Man" came out 10 years later after Tron.
Such a wonderfully unique film when it first came out, and it still looks beautiful. I used to play the video game a lot at 7-Eleven. I also love the score by Wendy Carlos.
MCP initially started as a chess program (Master Chess Program), Flynn and Dumont both mentioned it.. flynn because he played chess against it and Dumont because he knew the program when it was still a chess program.
Tron was rendered on CRAY super computers, the fastest computers at the time
It probably took forever! Crazy to think how far computers have come in a short time
And so expensive that the phrase went "If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it".
@@ReelReviewsWithJen It did, that's probably why only 15-20 minutes are actually CGI. The rest is just costumes, sets and classic animation techniques. The scenes in the computer world were filmed in black and white, then printed to large format film and then hand colorized frame by frame like an animated movie.
The Corridor Crew did some videos about this, if you are interested.
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@@andreasvogler1875 interesting 😊
True fact. This is one of the greatest films ever made.
And also one of the reasons why I grew up to become a software engineer.
Yeah, you pretty much became a programmer after reading the instruction manual for an 80s home computer, they were thick and 100s of pages long. Everything had to be typed in code to make the computer do anything before icons came along, now it's all just point & click. The mouse wasn't really used until the later half of the 80s, it was a luxury and some early ones cost $300-$400.
There also weren't many places or qualified people who can repair computers in the early 80s so it was pretty much do-it-yourself and every computer also came with an equally deeply detailed Troubleshooting Guide aka "How To Repair Or Upgrade Your Computer For Dummies". After reading that you could build your own computer.
Tron Legacy was a sequel, not a reboot or remake. Same continuity, only 30 years later.
The computer world was created by a combination of CGI - the very first use of computer graphics to create a movie environment - and a technique called back-lit animation, in which live-action footage and animation cels are rotoscoped, lit from below and shot/rephotographed with diffusion filters to create that neon glow. Ground-breaking for its time.
The Making of Tron: ruclips.net/video/wSiEklGobmY/видео.html
@@Dularr The first use of CGI to create a movie *environment*, as I stated, meaning the space characters interact in, traditionally achieved with physical sets, props, miniatures, rear- and front-screen protection, etc. The Westworld gimmick was simply the gunslinger robot's POV, pixelization of live-action footage.
@@Dularr I'm not sure how else you would have done it in 1982. Digital compositing wasn't really a thing yet. The fact remains that it created a cinematic world believable and imerrsive enough to remain tremendously influential almost 40 years later.
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It makes me wonder how long that two minutes would take to render now-a-days on modern gaming systems. Probably from eight hours to under one second.
Tron: Legacy was a sequel, not a remake.
Yeah, that irked me every time she said it. Would've thought that the same characters showing up again in the "remake" would've tipped her off but maybe she just didn't really remember much about it at all.
You must remember how mind-blowing this was for us all back in 1982 when Packman was the height of video game sophistication.
"Digitized" gives me so many memories of the "Captain Power" serires of video-interactive toys and series...Which I always thought were a pretty lame gimmick, but that may only have been my own sour grapes, at not getting to own those toys as a kid.
I remember CP, and strangely enough, a few years ago there was a reboot supposedly happening called Phoenix Rising I think, with some of the original cast. It’s here on YT, a short teaser video.
My parents wouldn't allow it because the blinking spots on the screen, they were worried, could cause epileptic seizures, and they thought it was WAY too violent.
"Wargames" - another computer movie with Matthew Broderick and Ally Sheedy - came out around the same time as Tron. I'm afraid to watch it again in case it's not as good as I remember it when I was 18. :-)
it stands up ok and is still the best hacking in cinema
MCP tries to take over NORAD.
WOPR: Shall we play a game?
I'm afraid to ever watch Wargames again in case it's not as fun as I remember it.
This was the first Disney to use CGI, even though it looks primitive, this was 11-12 years before JURASSIC PARK, and Terminator 2 were released.
There was a cgi sequence used in the opening credits of The Black Hole (1979) but tron is the first Disney movie to build a story using cgi effects
The story is imperial Rome in a computer, the gladiator games and the Users being a polytheism to the programs and Encom being Olympus. It’s a fun and creative movie.
So, do you _like_ gladiator movies?
The Making of Tron is a great feature in and of itself, I particularly love the parts with Roger Allers, who later went on to direct The Lion King, because he’s hysterical. Also, Bruce Boxleitner talking about how snug the dance belts were is hilarious.
31:50 - Combination.. The actual computer animation isn't as much as you think it is.. The making of Tron is absolutely fascinating to watch. A lot of the film had to be reprinted over and over for blocking and lighting. Lithography, Rotoscoping, hand inking of frames... The sheer amount of production is mind blowing to say the least.
You should check out “The Last Starfighter”, “Flight of the Navigator” and “D.A.R.Y.L” and “Cloak and Dagger” (1984). All a awesome 80’s movies.
18:16 -- Motorcycles as they developed over the years took a lot of design cues from Tron. Sometimes I wonder how much pop culture influences what actually gets developed in the real world. Today, it would be a piece of cake to build Dillinger's desk and make it work.
Ever seen Mask with Eric Stoltz, Cher and Sam Elliot? You should, nobody else will. It's based on the true story of Rocky Dennis, a boy born with a disfiguring disease. Sam Elliot as Gar the gruff and wise biker with a heart of gold steals the movie for me, his voice narrates my thoughts. Oh yeah, bring tissues.
The film was shot on black and white stock, then animation staff hand-rotoscoped the colored lines on frame by frame. The color palette was by design, not by limitations.
Great News! Jeff Bridges just announced his cancer is in remission.
I have fond memories of this movie. I first watched it in my Grade 10 Math class. My math teacher decided to show it to our class because he said the computer graphics required numerous calculations to achieve the desired look. I think he was just using that as an excuse to watch a cool movie and get paid for it and I was completely OK with that.
What I love about the film is the look. I think it's crazy that all of the Computer World shots (sets and characters) were done in black and white and EVERY SINGLE FRAME was hand-painted over by animators to give it that glowing, colorful look! The whole mood of the film, from the production design, the CGI and Wendy Carlos' amazing, underrated score (she also scored A Clockwork Orange and The Shining for Kubrick) is just so unique and cool. Roger Ebert would host 70mm screenings of the film at his annual film festival as he truly thought the film delivered on bringing you into a world you've truly never seen before!
"Logan's Run" would be a fun trippy SciFy movie to check out.
And yes, David Warner played a most incredible Jack the Ripper unleashed on modern day San Francisco via time travel, in *1979’s brilliant “Time After Time”,* directed by Nicholas Meyer. I agree it’s a classic. Oh my.
Yep, tracked though time by H.G. Wells. :)
The idea is for her to watch movies WITHOUT knowing the plot and details.
A lot of the design work for the film was done by French comics artist Jean “Moebius” Giraud who also worked on lots of other films including Alien, Willow, and The Fifth Element.
Also, the same Moebius drew the French user manual's cover for the computer Alice at that time (a rebranded Tandy MC-10 in a red case), which was my very first computer (imagine today, 4KB of RAM, family TV as the screen, and audio cassettes instead of disks ^^)
I was good friends with one of the lead art designers for this movie, Peter Lloyd... he was an endlessly fascinating gent with incredible stories that can be earned only by living life to the fullest. Always humble, and never a bragger, yet somehow we would constantly end up discussing his friendships with people like George Harrison, Pee Wee Herman, Elvira, Harry Chapin, Jim Croce, and so many more. Academy award nominated, Grammy nominated, New York Society of Illustrators gold medal winner, to name but a handful of his accomplishments... you will always remembered for your work, Peter, but missed by those who knew you for the man you were.
"Very much 'yes' and 'no'" I imagine that's a reflection of binary coding, wherein all signals-bits have a value of either 'something' or 'nothing'; represented by ones and zeroes. Which in itself is philosophically Ironic, as, if 'nothing/zero' has a value, then it is not truly 'nothing'--it is the symbol we assign to mean 'nothing,' which is something in its own right.
There is another SciFi movie from 1970 that is focused on a computer system, called "Colossus: The Forbin project".
This is what inspired James Cameron with the idea of Skynet in the Terminator franchise.
The second TRON is Not a remake of the first but a sequel which is why Jeff Bridges is in both movies. He is playing the same character years later.
Reboot was always the best "inside a computer " story
"the files are IN the computer "
-Hansel. 😂
Fun facts about 'TRON';
- Released in 1982, 'TRON' was among the first films to make extensive use of Computer Graphics Imaging (CGI). See also 'Star Trek II - The Wrath of Kahn', and 'The Last Starfighter' (Side note - If you're interested in seeing some of Pixar's early works, see 'Star Trek II (The Genesis Simulation), and 'Young Sherlock Holmes' (The Glass Knight sequence) ).
- The costume effects were created with a thick material, and strips of reflective material. the glowing effects were achieved by enlarging each frame of the film, adding the glow effects by hand, and then re-filming the resulting image(s). Keep in mind that there are 24 frames for each second of motion picture film...
- in 1982, Arcades were everywhere, and home computers were still a new thing (this was 2 years prior to the release of the first Macintosh...). The marketing for the movie was originally emphasizing "The World Inside the Computer", and was later changed to "The World Inside Video Games"
- Financially, the movie did not do well at the Box Office (It was up against 'E. T.', and 'Star Trek II - The Wrath of Kahn').
- Much of the terminology, and concepts used in the movie are laughable by today's standards (some even by 1982 standards), but it's still a fun, turn your brain off, and enjoy it, kind of film... :-)
- This movie was denied a nomination for Best Visual Effects by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, because Disney used computers, which the AMPAS considered 'cheating'...:-/
- Midway created two arcade video games based on the movie; 'TRON', and 'Discs of TRON'. The first was devided into four mini games (Light Cycles, Tanks, Grid Bugs, and the MCP Cone), while the second recreated the feel of the 'Lacrosse' game from earlier in the film. Both games are highly sought out by collectors.
I visited the promotional display for the sequel "Tron: Legacy" at San Diego Comicon, the year it came out. Being a fan of the original I was fascinated to see what they did with the sequel. And it didn't disappoint visually. The display was amazing. They took over a building in the Gaslamp quarter (near the convention center) and turned it into a copy of Flynn's arcade from the original. It was filled with classic 80's video games including the Tron game that came out after the film. They let you play them free for 15 minutes, then they shut them down and the Tron Game slid aside to reveal a doorway. You walked through the door and down a corridor that had all sorts of concept art for the new movie on the walls, then you walked around a corner and there was one of the actual Light Cycle props from the new movie sitting on a slowly spinning dais glowing. Very cool! Then as you exited they gave you a free Flynn's Arcade t-shirt with glow in the dark letters. That was one of the best movie displays I've seen at that convention. Of course the nostalgia factor was high for me as I saw the first film as a little kid.
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My son does what Flynn does, with programming games (using modern technology, of course)… We can only hope that no-one ever steals his game(s), and that he becomes rich from one of them! 😁
5:34, uh.. it wasn't a remake, it was a sequel.
It was a sequel, but exactly the same story basically.
@@oaf-77 That describes lots of sequels.
@@DMichaelAtLarge sadly true
@@oaf-77 Not really the first was about stolen intellectual property.
The second is about ones creation turning on you. And the nature of Perfection. And just like the first there's a lot of religious and mythological allegory.
Hell yeah! Tron! Anyway, I'm so sick of being pulled over by the police. Just because I make twenty 90 degree turns for a slight curve; it doesn't make me drunk. I'm sick of explaining that.
Might like the old movie 'Logans Run". Nice sci fi flick.
Agreed, always a classic.
I love that film, but the visuals definitely have not aged well. I saw that in the cinema and "carousel" blew my mind.
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A friend of mine has one of the Flynn's arcade t-shirts from this movie. He actually visited the set for this film during filming, as well. His father was composing music for Disney, so he was on the lot at the time and figured, rightly, that his young son would enjoy seeing the set for this.
There is even a sequel called Tron Legacy. It's...not that bad...but its quite entertaining and a guilty pleasure. It was released 28 years later in 2010. I remember watching the trailer from San Diego Comic Con in 2009, and it made my jaw drop! It was originally titled :TR2N.
It would be great if you reacted to a Disney sci-fi movie from 1979 called, "The Black Hole".
Seconded!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Jen. That's one of my favorite movie and probably one of the main reasons I got into video gaming and computer programming.
Back in the '80s, there was no photoshop, green screen were in their infancy and CGI was used mainly to move cie logos around in tv ads.
If you liked the movie go watch the '"making of". You will be amazed how cutting edge this was back then, how much work went behind it and how rudimentary the tools were.
This movie is responsible for young me and several of my friends throwing frisbees as hard as we could at each other for an entire summer. Good times...
The 2000's version was a sequel to the 1980's version. If you notice it is the same arcade in both. And there were 2 arcade Tron games, the regular levels, light bikes ranks etc. That was Tron. The other was called The Discs of Tron which was just the platform battles only
Side note: Tron.. Actually comes from a key on old mainframe computers that stands for "Trace On".. Abbreviated to TRON. Tapping the Trace On or TRON key would then trace every step a program made as it ran. (Stack trace)
LOL all I know about this film is, that they had marketed transleucent action figures that looked really cool, but i was sad they were not squishy, like the gelatin they resembled...and the names of the principals (gleaned from toy ads) were "Tron" "Sark" and "Flynn"
Loved it! Super long time since I'd seen that one, thank you. Also, it nearly never occurs to me that something is nightmare fuel until someone says the words "nightmare fuel" so no thank you. :p
It was shot in black and white on 70 mm film for the actors in the computer and then painted over by hand, On the 20th anniversary DVD Bridges told a story about running into a guy that did that and how he hated Bridges cause he had been painting his face non-stop for the past couple of years.
Some arcade cabinets were built like that desk in the 80's. Especially ones in pizza parlors. Thats probably where they got the idea. My local Science and History museum also had something similar for its exhibits back then.
In addition to Bruce Boxleitner, one of the minor characters is played by Peter Jurasik … both of whom later starred in Babylon 5.
I saw this movie in the cinema. A group of friends and I took up an entire row of seats in an almost empty auditorium. In the scene where Flynn is first digitised, the shot going down the tunnel … as the tunnel bends, first one way and then the other … we suddenly noticed we were all physically leaning round the curve. I’ve seen this movie in the cinema twice now and felt the urge to lean both times, but not on a small screen.
There was a game (“Core Wars”, popular with some academics back in the day, and popularised by a Scientific American article) that simulates a piece of computer memory. ‘Players’ write very simple programs in a custom ‘assembly’ code that then battle against each other (unassisted) … trying to overwrite and/or corrupt each other. Most computers are unlike this.
In general, there is little similarity between coding and anything in this movie … except maybe the idea that programs have to interact with each other to achieve a task (for example, if your program wants to print something, it has to talk to the printer driver program). As a software developer, I both like and cringe at this movie in equal amounts.
Video Arcades were popular back in the 80’s, when few people had their own computers at home. I spent many hours, and many quarters, in them back in the day.
The industry didn't have a good grasp on how freakin hard it was to use computers or to mix CGI with animation. 'In the year it was released, the Motion Picture Academy refused to nominate Tron for a special-effects award because, as director Steven Lisberger puts it, "The Academy thought we cheated by using computers".'
The actors wore white costumes with black lines, it was recorded in black and white, the recording would then be inverted and scaled up, the face would then be cut out, the body would be cut out and the face.. everything would then be backlit with a special gel for the colours and then composited back with backgrounds and effects... it was a very laborious process..
Don't know if someone further down the comment section already said it, but they actually decided to film the inside computer cenes in black and white using masking tape for light lines. The colors were hand painted in frame by frame by students and therefore very from cene to cene
I love that you react to some really great, obscure films. Definitely react to the 1980 sci-fi/horror classic, Altered States.
Man. That one breaks my heart...It was so amazing...but the star, William Hurt is far from my favorite, or admired...he breaks my heart, because I really really dislike him as an actor, but he elects to take on roles that I would love, if only it weren't him performing it. bleah
This is incredible flick Jen, how about reacting to 1992's The Lawnmower Man
Two other movies that I recommend from Jeff Bridges younger days are John Carpenter's Starman and the 1976 King Kong.
3:17 --- keeping in mind, this was 1982.. We didn't have flat screen displays like that and touch screens that you could type on with your fingers were barely even developed yet.. -- The programs take on the appearance of their users or programmers in the electronic world.
3:20 This movie happened in that brief window where air poppers had just gotten popular but hadn't yet been replaced by microwave popcorn. A couple years later the shelves at Goodwill and Salvation army stores would be lined with donated air poppers nobody wanted.
My air popper is going strong!
The funny thing computers were the size of a building then they took up an entire floor of a building. All the computers people used at the time just granted you access to files. Those computers at the time were called mainframes, and we have in a weird way we have come full circle with cloud computing. Fun Fact: Bruce Boxleitner and the guy playing Chrom were in Babylon 5 so was the guy playing Dillinger his name is David Werner. There was a whole ride dedicated to Tron in TomorrowLand in Disneyland. Kids growing up after seeing this movie would use their frisbee's like the light disk. Oh the MCP is referred to as the MAster Control Program.
9:48 you fall off the circle, then it's bye bye for you.
White skin tight body suits with reflective tape - in post production EVERYTHING was re-coloured and re-colour timed frame by frame for the human actors and "rotoscoped" in which each frame was hand painted with the glowing effects. The computer graphics were also done frame by frame...
The game they play with scoops is jai alai - imagine lacrosse played in a squash court...
First major use of CGI in a film, but a lot less CGI is involved here than you think. A good portion of what looks CG here is backlit film, tape, painted backgrounds and oldschool 2D animation. But whenever you see a vehicle move, that's CG.. and it took several companies, each specializing in different style of CGI, to make it.
This project was started by Steve Lisberger, an indie animator who, in the late 70s, made a futuristic looking commercial for a local radio station with a robot looking guy and flying glowing frisbee records. They named the character Tron, then decided to write a movie around him. They shopped the idea around to every studio in Hollywood.. it was rejected by all.. but Disney took a chance because they were practically bankrupt and had nothing to lose. This was during what's calledn"The Disney Dark Age", because of the shape the company was in, and the dark themed films that came out of that era (Tron, The Black Hole, Escape from Witch Mountain, Something Wicked This Way Comes, The Black Cauldron).. all of which were an attempt to shed the "kiddie" Disney image.
In 1982 I'd been operating mainframe computers for the Air Force for 3 years, done small amount of programing back in high school, very basic stuff. I knew the formula for getting the highest score possible in space invaders so that was no longer a challenge for me, Galaga was more fun.
This movie struck me as very ambitious, daring for the time but also pretty silly. It was bold and ambitious, I just couldn't take it seriously. The dot matrix printer was archaic even then, I used a line printer the size of an upright piano every day that could churn out a hundred pages in a couple of minutes. Our disc drums were big brown platters constantly spinning and memory was in long rows of cabinets that took up half a room. There's no inner world, no AI, no characters or bikes or frizbees. Even on release I thought the graphics and music were dated. The unreality of it made me hard to care about any of the characters or what happened. It was Disney so I knew the good guy would win. Haven't seen it since it was in the theater.
This movie wasn't based on a video game. I saw this movie opening night, I loved it! But no one else did at the time, it was a flop at the box office. Nobody thought about computers in 82, or understood them, so nobody got the movie. I was a nerd so I got it. In one month in the summer of 82 we got 3 movies that were so ahead of their time they flopped big time but are now considered groundbreaking classics. "Tron", "Blade Runner", and "The Thing".
10:10* the light cycle sequence was spoofed in Robot Chicken and Family Guy.
I first saw this at a local drive in theater back in 1982 when my parents took me to see this movie. It was one of the first films that features CGI (Computer Generated Image), along with other films such as The Last Starfighter (1984).
This movie was before CGI. But it's early computer graphics where a break through back in those days. No ones ever seen anything like it. Also Jen I think it's time for you to revisit Tron Legacy. Now that your familiar with the characters. Also it's not a remake but a sequel to Tron.
What’s interesting is that Tetsuya Nomura while working on Kingdom Hearts 2 saw a actual game of Tron in the works at Disney Interactive that he included the world of Tron known as Space Paranoids making it a continuation of the original Tron with Encom reference in the game.
7:30, they used scenes from Thai movie in a trailer for the upcoming documentary, In Search Of Tomorrow: The Definitive 80's Documentary.
7:11, they had spoofed this in South Park!
Did the MCP say "there is another warrior on the mesa"? I didnt pick up on it before, but mesa means table, which has to be a nod to the physical table...
A Mesa is what a flat topped Mountain is called. Like Moo Mesa.
@@Fenris30 Yeah I know, but I think they are supposed to parallel each other. You have the MCP 'ON' the mesa in the gameworld, and Dillinger, played by the same actor 'AT' a mesa, or table in the real world...
TRON started as an idea.. how would the inside of a computer look like? How would programs look like?... hence why the programs look like their users..
Tron legacy is not a remake, it is a sequel. It takes place years later.
I was late for school so many times because I would stop for a "quick" game of Tron at the corner store, McKay's Market. The school's truant officer started making routine stops at all the corner stores within 3 or 4 blocks of the school with video games, they also had Donkey Kong Jr. and Joust so the kindergarden cop caught a lot of students at that store.
The 7-11 across the street had Dragon's Lair and Space Ace over the next couple years so I was late to school quite often.
Yeah kids, back in the 80s 7-11's had video games, sometimes 4 or 5 machines. Haven't seen a 7-11 with a video game in nearly 30 years.
Fun fact: There was only a small amount of CGI used in the movie.
The majority of what we see is practical models, with reflective paints.
I remember that rip cord light cycle toys that came out after the movie was released. I miss my childhood.
Rodney Dangerfields movie Back to School is what I recommend. It is not a B movie however . It is considered his best movie.
Real programming is nothing like is shown in this movie (or most movies). Real programming involves typing in many lines of code, with often cryptic sounding commands, then saving it, compiling it into a working program, testing it, then going back to the code to try and figure out why it isn't doing what you expected. Repeat that about 30-100 times depending on the size of the program and the complexity. Although to fair, most people write programs in small pieces so that they can test each part of it, rather than try and write the entire thing is one go. They also often have sections of code that they've written before that they can just "plug in" to handle similar tasks.
Computers do not understand any real-world instructions. Everything you want them to do has to be broken down and programmed using the instructions that the computer understands. If you want to make a program do something when the user clicks on part of the screen, you need to watch for the mouse button to be pressed (within a loop, because you probably don't want the program sitting completely idle waiting for a button press), then check the mouse's X/Y coordinates and compare those coordinates to preset values to see if they match the area you want the user to be able to click on. If it's within the target area, then you tell it to jump to the part of the program for dealing with that click. If not, then you have it go back to waiting for a mouse click. You basically have to micro-manage everything.
Here's the first (useless) program that everyone is taught to type in, in BASIC (Beginners All-purpose Symbolic Instruction Code), a simple, fairly slow programming language meant for beginners that is mostly shunned by serious programmers;
10 PRINT "Hello"
20 GOTO 10
You can probably figure out what it does when you RUN it. Now add IF/THEN statements, variables, FOR/NEXT loops, etc.
the Tron game in arcades was really awesome for the time. The cabinet style was very immersive in my opinion. Was still huge on playing pinball but that was on of the games that ate alot of my quarters for sure.
This is NOT a remake and tron legacy is the sequel to this film
David Warner (Ed Dillinger) also starred in Titanic, The Omen, Time After Time, Star Trek V, TMNT: Secret of the Ooze.
THe summer of 82 was the best. I remember seeing all of these in the theater, Tron, E.T., The Thing, Blade Runner, An Officer and a gentleman.
A great year for movies!
@@ReelReviewsWithJen thanks for the great reviews, most of all the little seen older ones. i love older cheesy sci fi / horror. any and all you react to i willwatch. please do Plan 9 and Robot Monster
The name TRON is derived from a command code in BASIC language. It is short for TRace ON. BASIC programmers used the commands TRON and TROFF respectfully. It is a debugging tool that allows the programmer to follow the flow of his program one executable step at a time.
Tron Legacy wasn't a remake it was a sequel. It was to follow on from the original but with a redesign. The canon lore is flynn remade the grid and updated it during the time between this film and when he goes missing in the start of Legacy. Also the CGI in this was all hand made using coordinates and math as computers didn't exist that let you make cgi yet with software. They literally had to use math to figure out where each line and vertices and faces of all the shapes would be and input those coordinates to the render computer. They basically had one shot at rendering each frame as it took so long they wouldn't have a second chance. Which is amazing how their math was so perfect.
Also tron is the only program flynn took with him to grid 2.0 which they reference to in legacy. They mention how he is an old program from the previous grid or world.
this was the first ever full cgi movie, its wild how it was made, because computers were not very strong, they had to jerry rig everything to force it all to work