I had a good friend tell me the dress watch supposed to be small thin elegant does not draw attention to oneself supposed to have hands and no numbers but most importantly it's not to draw attention away from the lady by your side. That works for me.
All true. But, not all dress watch is qualified as a dress watch for your wrist. I personally have a way to test if 'thatt dress watch' is a dressy enough for me. How? Wear that watch, then wear suit with a french cuff dress shirt. Then move your arm up and down. If the watch easily slide in and out of your cuff, then good. But if it stuck, then it's not a dress watch, FOR YOU. For me, thickness is much more important than caze size. That's why all of my dress watch are either manual mechanical or quartz.
I have a Bulova in gold plated finish with a champagne dial and it’s one of my favorites and prized possessions. My girlfriend gave me the watch and I wear it even if I’m in shorts and a t-shirt , but i i love it. I think that the model number is 97A70.
My go to dress watch right now is a vintage 1966 Timex Mercury on the original black leather strap. Found it at an online garage sale for $19 and wore it for my wedding.
Yes totally agree with you on dress watches being below 40mm. I have two or three dress watches, two Rotary watches at around 38mm and 36mm, one however is in stainless steel and gold on a bracelet with a small date window but no other complications and the other watch is in stainless steel which has a very nice patterned dial which is silver and on a black leather strap. Both are ultra slim at around 8mm thickness and both have Roman numerals on them. One other I have which I could wear as dress watch is a Citizen Eco Drive watch on a black strap with a white dial and black Roman Numerals which again is an ultra slim watch which is 38mm. Thanks for your take on your watch choices.
Well said, and even though it is not in precious metal I like the Christopher Ward C5 Malvern 595. Thin. no complication and yes a hand wound movement.
Congrats on the 76k subs! I love my little vintage Benrus coming in at 37mm, gold filled, handwind, unobtrusive date. Someday, I'd like a modern dress watch with no complications with a solid white gold case, but this little guy will do nicely until then. Can't beat an ancient watch that's never needed servicing.
I have to wear tuxedo's on a regular basis and so a good dress watch is a must.. As I also travel quite a bit I usually have around 3 to 5 dress watches with me along with my every day watch which is a Stainless steel 1971 Rolex Sub. My dress watches include a Rolex Cellini, Rolex President, JLC Reverso, Girard Perragaux 1945 and finally a Patek Philippe Calatrava which I inherited. I tend to wear my Sub as a dress watch as well but for black tie events it's usually the Cellini or Patek. I would like to add a Breguet and an AP to the collection at some stage.
My personal dress watch is a stainless steel with some complications: JLC ultra thin perpetual calendar, with a black leather bracelet though :) Complications depend of the way they are displayed. Here the moon phase is very elegant and gives just the right amount of color to enlighten the piece and not be too much, and the other dials are very delicate. No one really notice this watch, it complets my outfit perfectly. Only watch aficionados and myself recognize it for what it is and I love it for that too. I really enjoy watching your videos, keep the good work!
Stellar video, when I was a kid my mom worked for a Jewelers Trade Association, I saw my first Tuxedo Watch when I was 6, a Bulova Tank in sterling silver. I have a Caravelle Tank I wear with a Tux, Tuxedo watches have been around, Sinatra always wore one. I agree, the Reverso is my favorite and, to me, the Standard along with the Cartier. One watch I like a lot for a suit is the Longines Flagship, Master etc.. Humphrey Bogart wore a Longines Evidenza in several movies and I always thought that was the Art Deco Standard for a dress watch; great style.
a dress watch that is pretty sporty but I've had my eye on for a while now is an omega aqua terra in either stainless steel or gold.. they're sooo cool looking to me
@@thetimeteller Thanks 4 the Amen & heart Jory, so many parallels between our lives that it shocks me. We're both bearded powerlifters that root 4 the Pats & enjoy an extensive watch collection that's supported by our gorgeous Asian ladies who are FAR above our level. Enjoying your T3 channel, keep up the great work! 👍
fully agree with this. i got gifted a 42mm tissot dress watch and ended up selling it to buy a 37mm seiko dress watch. i didnt mind loosing the swiss brand so that i could wear a proper sized dress watch.
T3, awesome as always. I definitely agree with your views on dress watches. My favorite dress watch in my collection is a beautiful and simple Waltham from the 60’s that belonged to my Great Uncle. Sadly the case and crown are chrome plated. And the plating is wearing in spots. However, the dial and hands are near perfect. As is the domed acrylic crystal. Markers are rectangular cut clear/white stones. Seconds are on sub-dial at 6:00. Marked “France” below the sub-dial. I have it on a dark gray lizard strap.
Hey, an avid admirer of your work here. My dress watch is my g shock full metal square in black (GMW-B5000GD-1) That's my everyday office watch, and sports watch. I would like to see you review it once.
I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said. Dress watches should be on the smaller and slimmer side (sub 40mm is better, but that obviously depends wrist size. 7.5in plus wrists can get away with bigger. Likewise under 10mm thick is preferred when possible, although thicker is allowed if the profile still allows it under a cuff). Likewise they should always be on a leather strap (preferably alligator/crocodile over calf/cordovan). I also agree about precious metals where possible, with steel being the only true alternative as it’s basically a lighter, cheaper, stronger white gold/platinum (no ceramic or titanium here; too casual/sporty). For me the single most important factor is simply how elegant it is. This tends to means plain batton or applied markers, and simple hands, with no lume. Likewise, while complications are discouraged, they can exist if integrated in a subtle or elegant way, which is how we end up with moonphase, power reserve, date and even chronograph PP Calatravas and ALS Saxonias. That being said, for a dedicated dress watch, I prefer to stick to small seconds, and that’s it (I rear mounted power reserve is also nice on manual movements). This can be perfectly shown with your Seiko example; that Presarge is both bigger and thicker than recommended from a dress watch, with an almost overpowering power reserve, yet everything is executed as elegantly as possible, making it suitable as a dress watch.
I agree with you. Only one questionable is the sub 40 one as if its a bigger dude one could wear a 44 and still be in the criteria. And also agree with the seiko fushiwhatever as i have one fitted with a two stitch strap and it looks amazing as a dress watch!! Keep it up.
I agree, but it is hard for us guys with bigger wrists to adjust to when we wear 43mm PLUS larger size watches on daily basis, when I have to wear black tie I always wear a watch so I am not sure who made that rule up as I always wear a nice pair of AP cufflinks as well, so for me I wear a AP Royal Oak usually if I want all steel or if I am feeling like leather then I choose a Patek Calatrava.
When they used to advertise new watches on TV, a dress watch was gold in colour, had TWO hands, and 4 hour markers. And a Swiss movement of some kind (mech or quartz.)
I’ve been wearing a vintage Omega Constellation C case as a dress watch, not strictly in keeping with your rules. It has a date complication, and it’s even on a bracelet, but the brick bracelet is very thin and, to me, elegant. I should switch it out to a leather strap for a change.
my ideal dress watch would be either not complicated, or some chronograph, because i think both look good, but not when its complicated watch with no functions. i kinda have to disagree on the gold part, because even if u take care of watch and are carefull with it, its still gonna scratch so im not gonna wear gold watch. titanium is best for me becasue its light but stainless steel is ok too
my ideal dress watch would be slim, max 40mm, have a silver-coloured case, minimal dial and indices with at most 1 complication (i.e date) and no integral bracelet if I'm not wearing my g shock, then my seiko 5 SNKL15 would be my "serious watch"
Do you use any products in your beard? I want to get mine to look like that one day but not sure how. Also happy to see you’re enjoying your JLC reverso. Very beautiful watch!
I have an average wrist and my tastes are geared towards vintage and dress watches these days. My Hamilton tank style and bulova sea king from 1970 fit the bill. But hey everyone is allowed to do what they want. Honestly would love if someone wore the new seamaster that's 20mm thick with a tux.
Quick question in regards to dress watches. What are your thoughts on dress watches with numerals? There are a few dress watches that I really like that are time only, no date, sub 40mm, etcc... but they have Arabic numerals. I know the Tank has Roman numerals which is supposed to be a little more sophisticated but I don't know about the Arabic watches. One example is the Montblanc Heritage Chronometrie 112516
I'm as sophisticated as a brick, so my dress watch is a C65 Diver.,.hand wind with no complications, on a Milanese (no leather, veggie since 1982), but the only time I wear a suit is funerals, weddings & court appearances. 😉👍
Very much like the old quip: "You're Mother and my Mother are...both mothers!" I would say that your criteria are pretty much the same as mine. My soul dresser is an old VC that fits all of your "informal"(See what I did there?) rules.
I only wear bracelets, to me a dress watch is something I feel proud off, it can be an Omega, Seiko, Citizen anything versatile and well-known. Because I feel confident wearing a good brand. But always on a bracelet. I don't like leather because I sweat on it
gonna have to disagree with you on the no complications thing. A moonphase complication is perfect on a dress watch. Have you seen the H. Moser perpertual moonphase. This is one of the most beautiful dress watch I have ever seen
IMO dress watches are opposite of tool watches, as in they should only tell the time with no other functionalities (complications). Of course, this means the Reverso sort of bends the rules as you could argue the reverse function isn't a complication per se and people argue about whether a date complication can be a part of a dress watch or not. In any case, with today's sartorial rules, I think as long as you're not wearing a super ostentatious watch and flaunting it around, you should be fine with most smaller watches preferably on leather straps. I doubt many people wear tuxedos much at all, let alone properly to start with....!
I don't agree. Over 40mm is fine if you are big, a steel watch can be a dress watch, a gold bracelet can look great on a dresswatch, a complete calendar can also look nice on a dresswatch.
Thank you man, you always put a smile on my face with every new video. Keep up the great work and you’ll hit 100k subs in no time!
You rock, Raja- THANK YOU for the support! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Raja was right!
It’s funny that JLC Reverso was a sport watch.
Literally 100% a sports watch. Probably the most sports watch Ever to sports watch. It does kind of look dressy now though
@@ajmprovidence A product of it's time and the upper crust of society. And does Polo count as a sport?!? Jk
I had a good friend tell me the dress watch supposed to be small thin elegant does not draw attention to oneself supposed to have hands and no numbers but most importantly it's not to draw attention away from the lady by your side. That works for me.
Love wearing my 36mm Bambino any day
All true. But, not all dress watch is qualified as a dress watch for your wrist. I personally have a way to test if 'thatt dress watch' is a dressy enough for me. How?
Wear that watch, then wear suit with a french cuff dress shirt. Then move your arm up and down. If the watch easily slide in and out of your cuff, then good. But if it stuck, then it's not a dress watch, FOR YOU.
For me, thickness is much more important than caze size. That's why all of my dress watch are either manual mechanical or quartz.
I agree and the strap is bracelet or leather but not NATO or rubber.
I have a Bulova in gold plated finish with a champagne dial and it’s one of my favorites and prized possessions. My girlfriend gave me the watch and I wear it even if I’m in shorts and a t-shirt , but i i love it. I think that the model number is 97A70.
I have one too . I think you was made in 1950 .it still runs good .
David Coleman I found some vintage bulovas on eBay in pretty good conditions, might get one.
My go to dress watch right now is a vintage 1966 Timex Mercury on the original black leather strap. Found it at an online garage sale for $19 and wore it for my wedding.
Let me summarise it: KISS
Keep It Small and Simple
Yes totally agree with you on dress watches being below 40mm. I have two or three dress watches, two Rotary watches at around 38mm and 36mm, one however is in stainless steel and gold on a bracelet with a small date window but no other complications and the other watch is in stainless steel which has a very nice patterned dial which is silver and on a black leather strap. Both are ultra slim at around 8mm thickness and both have Roman numerals on them. One other I have which I could wear as dress watch is a Citizen Eco Drive watch on a black strap with a white dial and black Roman Numerals which again is an ultra slim watch which is 38mm. Thanks for your take on your watch choices.
Well said, and even though it is not in precious metal I like the Christopher Ward C5 Malvern 595. Thin. no complication and yes a hand wound movement.
James Bond wore a watch in "Skyfall" on a blue tuxedo?
But he's the exception to the rule!!! Lol
Congrats on the 76k subs! I love my little vintage Benrus coming in at 37mm, gold filled, handwind, unobtrusive date. Someday, I'd like a modern dress watch with no complications with a solid white gold case, but this little guy will do nicely until then. Can't beat an ancient watch that's never needed servicing.
Favorite dress watch: My dad's 1955 Rolex Oyster Precision. Worn during my wedding...but not in a tux.
Will there be a video on the discontinuation of the SKX?
I have to wear tuxedo's on a regular basis and so a good dress watch is a must.. As I also travel quite a bit I usually have around 3 to 5 dress watches with me along with my every day watch which is a Stainless steel 1971 Rolex Sub. My dress watches include a Rolex Cellini, Rolex President, JLC Reverso, Girard Perragaux 1945 and finally a Patek Philippe Calatrava which I inherited. I tend to wear my Sub as a dress watch as well but for black tie events it's usually the Cellini or Patek. I would like to add a Breguet and an AP to the collection at some stage.
My personal dress watch is a stainless steel with some complications: JLC ultra thin perpetual calendar, with a black leather bracelet though :)
Complications depend of the way they are displayed. Here the moon phase is very elegant and gives just the right amount of color to enlighten the piece and not be too much, and the other dials are very delicate. No one really notice this watch, it complets my outfit perfectly. Only watch aficionados and myself recognize it for what it is and I love it for that too.
I really enjoy watching your videos, keep the good work!
Stellar video, when I was a kid my mom worked for a Jewelers Trade Association, I saw my first Tuxedo Watch when I was 6, a Bulova Tank in sterling silver. I have a Caravelle Tank I wear with a Tux, Tuxedo watches have been around, Sinatra always wore one. I agree, the Reverso is my favorite and, to me, the Standard along with the Cartier. One watch I like a lot for a suit is the Longines Flagship, Master etc.. Humphrey Bogart wore a Longines Evidenza in several movies and I always thought that was the Art Deco Standard for a dress watch; great style.
a dress watch that is pretty sporty but I've had my eye on for a while now is an omega aqua terra in either stainless steel or gold.. they're sooo cool looking to me
If it slides under a cuff then it's good enough. dunkaroos FTW!
Amen!
@@thetimeteller Thanks 4 the Amen & heart Jory, so many parallels between our lives that it shocks me. We're both bearded powerlifters that root 4 the Pats & enjoy an extensive watch collection that's supported by our gorgeous Asian ladies who are FAR above our level. Enjoying your T3 channel, keep up the great work! 👍
I loved that pause you made and then proceeded talking about my childhood snacks! hahaha
I might be crazy. but I think I could pull off a tuna with a tuxedo...
Joy of finding a new great watch channel...
my fav dress watch is the omega speedmaster
I have 2 dress watches on my collection, an orient star classic and a Credor quartz with 18k bezel and I adore both, sometimes I use them on jeans
fully agree with this. i got gifted a 42mm tissot dress watch and ended up selling it to buy a 37mm seiko dress watch. i didnt mind loosing the swiss brand so that i could wear a proper sized dress watch.
T3, awesome as always.
I definitely agree with your views on dress watches.
My favorite dress watch in my collection is a beautiful and simple Waltham from the 60’s that belonged to my Great Uncle. Sadly the case and crown are chrome plated. And the plating is wearing in spots.
However, the dial and hands are near perfect. As is the domed acrylic crystal. Markers are rectangular cut clear/white stones. Seconds are on sub-dial at 6:00.
Marked “France” below the sub-dial. I have it on a dark gray lizard strap.
I spotted Bear Grylls wearing a bright yellow Luminox with a tux. That’s all the validation I needed lol. Great vid. Thanks for being awesome!
That seat belt analogy is perfect. I’ve never had any desire for a gold watch, but that JLC reverso.....
Oh my.
Hey, an avid admirer of your work here.
My dress watch is my g shock full metal square in black (GMW-B5000GD-1)
That's my everyday office watch, and sports watch. I would like to see you review it once.
I have a all black Citizen Eco-Drive on a black leather strap . The only time I wear it is when I go to a funeral. Lol.
I agree with pretty much everything you’ve said. Dress watches should be on the smaller and slimmer side (sub 40mm is better, but that obviously depends wrist size. 7.5in plus wrists can get away with bigger. Likewise under 10mm thick is preferred when possible, although thicker is allowed if the profile still allows it under a cuff). Likewise they should always be on a leather strap (preferably alligator/crocodile over calf/cordovan). I also agree about precious metals where possible, with steel being the only true alternative as it’s basically a lighter, cheaper, stronger white gold/platinum (no ceramic or titanium here; too casual/sporty).
For me the single most important factor is simply how elegant it is. This tends to means plain batton or applied markers, and simple hands, with no lume. Likewise, while complications are discouraged, they can exist if integrated in a subtle or elegant way, which is how we end up with moonphase, power reserve, date and even chronograph PP Calatravas and ALS Saxonias. That being said, for a dedicated dress watch, I prefer to stick to small seconds, and that’s it (I rear mounted power reserve is also nice on manual movements).
This can be perfectly shown with your Seiko example; that Presarge is both bigger and thicker than recommended from a dress watch, with an almost overpowering power reserve, yet everything is executed as elegantly as possible, making it suitable as a dress watch.
No mention of the SARB065? That's what I wear for a dress watch usually. Either that or one of my vintage watches.
I agree with you. Only one questionable is the sub 40 one as if its a bigger dude one could wear a 44 and still be in the criteria. And also agree with the seiko fushiwhatever as i have one fitted with a two stitch strap and it looks amazing as a dress watch!! Keep it up.
Thank you time teller. Please keep time flowing naturally. Here's a like and subscribe as sacrifice !
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My dress watch is a Lange Saxonia Thin in white gold. I, too, love dress watches.
My dress watch is a JLC master perpetual (prev. gen.), black dial.
I agree, but it is hard for us guys with bigger wrists to adjust to when we wear 43mm PLUS larger size watches on daily basis, when I have to wear black tie I always wear a watch so I am not sure who made that rule up as I always wear a nice pair of AP cufflinks as well, so for me I wear a AP Royal Oak usually if I want all steel or if I am feeling like leather then I choose a Patek Calatrava.
So, for an inexpensive (not necessarily cheap), what’s your take on the Rotary Cambridge?
I wear my speedmaster on dress occasions. I change the bracelet to a black cordovan leather, but it suits formal events rather well.
My personal favorite dress watch is actually a complication piece - Patek Philippe 5205G Annual Calendar
Good Job on this one!
When they used to advertise new watches on TV, a dress watch was gold in colour, had TWO hands, and 4 hour markers. And a Swiss movement of some kind (mech or quartz.)
I’ve been wearing a vintage Omega Constellation C case as a dress watch, not strictly in keeping with your rules. It has a date complication, and it’s even on a bracelet, but the brick bracelet is very thin and, to me, elegant. I should switch it out to a leather strap for a change.
my ideal dress watch would be either not complicated, or some chronograph, because i think both look good, but not when its complicated watch with no functions. i kinda have to disagree on the gold part, because even if u take care of watch and are carefull with it, its still gonna scratch so im not gonna wear gold watch. titanium is best for me becasue its light but stainless steel is ok too
I think the only complications you can have on dress watches have to be useless. Like moon phase or tourbillon. Gread vid , as usual!
Moon phase useless? In Alaska it’s not.
@@summerrr1 yeah it is, u can get chronograph with small 24h wheel, or just get digital watch which shows 24h format
That JLC reverso is spectacular
Joey nice video! But, I have some bad news, they discontinued the SKX...
my ideal dress watch would be slim, max 40mm, have a silver-coloured case, minimal dial and indices with at most 1 complication (i.e date) and no integral bracelet
if I'm not wearing my g shock, then my seiko 5 SNKL15 would be my "serious watch"
With tuxedo I wear a Bulova curvex with black leather strap or a Hamilton thinline 14kt white gold black strap
Do you use any products in your beard? I want to get mine to look like that one day but not sure how. Also happy to see you’re enjoying your JLC reverso. Very beautiful watch!
Love that ostrich strap on the JLC. Which brand is the strap? Would love to find one
Should a dress watch have illumination?
I have an average wrist and my tastes are geared towards vintage and dress watches these days. My Hamilton tank style and bulova sea king from 1970 fit the bill. But hey everyone is allowed to do what they want. Honestly would love if someone wore the new seamaster that's 20mm thick with a tux.
Good stuff man as always, what do you think of the Hamilton Ventura H24301731 as a dress watch and thanks for all your watch collecting advise. Cheers
Quick question in regards to dress watches. What are your thoughts on dress watches with numerals? There are a few dress watches that I really like that are time only, no date, sub 40mm, etcc... but they have Arabic numerals. I know the Tank has Roman numerals which is supposed to be a little more sophisticated but I don't know about the Arabic watches. One example is the Montblanc Heritage Chronometrie 112516
My ideal makeup of a dress watch is vostok amphibia.
I'm as sophisticated as a brick, so my dress watch is a C65 Diver.,.hand wind with no complications, on a Milanese (no leather, veggie since 1982), but the only time I wear a suit is funerals, weddings & court appearances. 😉👍
As a professional classical musician I am in a tux often. I always wear a watch!
You must... for professional reasons. The same applies to James Bond.
Sooooooo chilled Jory
Awesome video. SocialBlade predicts T3 will break 100K by this time next year. My guess is sooner.
Very much like the old quip: "You're Mother and my Mother are...both mothers!" I would say that your criteria are pretty much the same as mine. My soul dresser is an old VC that fits all of your "informal"(See what I did there?) rules.
White dial?
Love it! Lets tal km more ab and ut dress watches...pls
My JLC Duodate is my favorite (not technically) dress watch.
I only wear bracelets, to me a dress watch is something I feel proud off, it can be an Omega, Seiko, Citizen anything versatile and well-known. Because I feel confident wearing a good brand. But always on a bracelet. I don't like leather because I sweat on it
only 2 dress watches i would buy, the Cartier or JLC reverso and the King Seiko
I feel there are many levels of dress watch.
Mainly the watch has to fit the occasion.
Why a bracelet watch is not suit for dress watch ? Is it suit wearing rolex submariner or oris aquis date for black tie ?
Current fav. Dress watch world over... Apple iWatch!
Somebody please tell me if Tissot couturier powermatic 80 could be considered a dress watch.
I've never heard of dunkaroos either, editor senpai
milkham boy, they were pretty awesome, the icing /dip was amazing lol
What color straps go well with a grey sunburst dial? 22 mm
Black leather strap with white stiches look great.
Maybe, just maybe, they should be angular (just for a change)??
What about the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time SRPB43?
gonna have to disagree with you on the no complications thing. A moonphase complication is perfect on a dress watch. Have you seen the H. Moser perpertual moonphase. This is one of the most beautiful dress watch I have ever seen
What do you think about the citizen bh3000 for a dress watch
For me, a significant factor in the dress/sport watch debate is water resistance level.
please do video about SNJ025P1 SEIKO arni
IMO dress watches are opposite of tool watches, as in they should only tell the time with no other functionalities (complications). Of course, this means the Reverso sort of bends the rules as you could argue the reverse function isn't a complication per se and people argue about whether a date complication can be a part of a dress watch or not.
In any case, with today's sartorial rules, I think as long as you're not wearing a super ostentatious watch and flaunting it around, you should be fine with most smaller watches preferably on leather straps. I doubt many people wear tuxedos much at all, let alone properly to start with....!
Will you make a video on limited edition watches?
Quizá mi Hamilton Jazzmaster Thinline de esfera blanca ?
I don't agree. Over 40mm is fine if you are big, a steel watch can be a dress watch, a gold bracelet can look great on a dresswatch, a complete calendar can also look nice on a dresswatch.
Please do "What is appropriate for a business casual watch?"
JLC Reverso Tribute to 1931. 👍🏼
Rolex day date? I use that as my dress watch.
Still don’t understand why people hate on invicta.
homages, all watches are +50mm etc
must a dress watch be thin (case wise) and with black straps..??...is that even compulsory..? i was told so......... o_O
Landing on you channel for first time only request can lower the talk time
Rolex op. Only breaks 2 rules: no precious metals and using steel bracelet. But so versatile
Keep telling it like it is, Jory, we love it!
There is no such a thing as a "dress watch". It's an artificial term created by marketologists in order to make more sales of different watches.
2:59 How would you know you that 5 minutes had passed if you don't have a watch?
Haha T3 wears seatbelts! 😂
He must want to Live
Yeah I’m a fricken loser.
Jory careful that leather strap has warts on it.
Orient ER27001B
Panerai best dress watch
I wear a Casio f91 to bed, when you wear a watch more then T3
why have lume on a watch if you don’t wear it to bed?
Jordy in a dress wearing a watch? can't get that out of my head please help!!
for me, a dresswatch even dont have a second hand