I feel that you understated the value of sapphire. The print runs are very low and if you look at baseball, the sapphire historically does great. I personally invest in the sapphire because I also think they look better
Great point SwagKing1972. I definitely may have understated Sapphire's value. I think Sapphire holds as much value as regular Chrome in general, but was trying to make the point that when buying singles, many new investors may not realize that Sapphire is it's own set, thus a Sapphire Base card is generally not necessarily as valuable as a Topps Chrome Refractor, if that makes sense. Different situations will occur where this isn't the case, but I could see some people getting it twisted and thinking, "oh, that card looks cool, it must be a short print of some sort," when really it's a Sapphire base card. So overall I agree with you on Sapphire's value, but want people to know the difference when buying singles as investments. That said, you got me thinking about what the initial hobby box price of 2020 Topps Chrome F1 was and what the initial price of 2020 Topps Chrome F1 Sapphire was. This thread on Blowout seems to say that the original hobby box price of 2020 Topps Chrome F1 was $100???? Is this true? www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1404567 If so, that's crazy. Those, as we all know, are now $5k a box. As far as Sapphire, not sure what 2020 F1 Topps Chrome Sapphire released at, because they were only for Montgomery Club Members, but a year ago, they were $139 for Montgomery Club Members and a year ago on the secondary markets they were $800-$900 a hobby box. Also something to consider. There were no autos in this release. So that's another reason why buying sealed wax isn't as recommended of an investment from my POV. They're now going for around $4k - $5k. So if I had to pick between the two, regular 2020 Topps Chrome F1 is the way I'm going, due to the auto possibilities.
@@IsGAdrian the regular portraits carry more value. The freshest is an insert set for some of the younger drivers and rookies. Many consider it to be the next best to the base portrait for George Russell, lando.
Thanks for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it. I think a good place to start is buying singles of the 2020 Topps Chrome F1. Getting liquid guys like Lewis, Max, George and Lando is a good place to start. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'm always happy to answer!
Just stumbled upon this video. Great insights. I’ve been on Oscar myself a buddy turned me onto him after he won F2 Did you happen to do a follow up video ?
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Legacy Sports Cards 704. I really appreciate it. I have plenty more F1 Card Strategy Shows here - nooffseason.com/sports-card-podcasts/f1-card-strategy-show/
Hey Kevan! Great question. Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm thinking that if Enzo Fittipaldi's first cards are in this set, it could have some upside, but the checklist isn't out yet, and I'd wait until the Chrome release comes out before I buy any.
Hello I have a psa 10 Yuki negative, it’s a negative but psa had a typo and put chartreuse, I picked up the card on eBay is the card worth more or does the typo not affect the card in any way?
Hey, thanks for watching and commenting. Great card and great question. The typo won't affect the value of the card, but I'd consider sending it back to PSA to have them label it correctly. That way when you sell it, the buyer knows exactly what they're getting.
Is there a resource for showing the serial numbers on the cards associated with the right set? Mostly asking for this as another way to verify the card is from the set you are targeting (base vs chrome vs sapphire) on listing.
Hi Dominick, thanks so much for watching and commenting. The best current resource for this is cardboardconnection.com ... We're also updating our player profiles at NoOffseason.com to focus on this as well.
@@PaulHickey Hello and thanks for the quick reply. I was actually using cardboardconnection but couldn't find what I was looking for specific to the serial codes by year and type (example 2020 topps chrome vs 2021 topps chrome). I mainly looked on the checklist besides just generally looking around. Would I find it on the checklist or can you be more specific cause I couldn't seem to find it on my own.
@@dominickschiavo1479 Yo Dominick! On this link for example - www.cardboardconnection.com/2020-topps-chrome-formula-1-racing-cards - if you scroll down to right under the first photo, you'll see the first breakdown of serial numbers... "2020 Topps Chrome Formula 1 Racing Base Refractor Parallels Breakdown Refractor - 1:3 packs Purple Refractor - #/399 70th Anniversary Gold - 1:30 packs 70th Anniversary Orange - 1:46 packs Gold Refractor - #/50 Gold Wave Refractor - #/50 Orange Refractor - #/25 Orange Wave Refractor - #/25 Red Refractor - #/5 Red Wave Refractor - #/5 70th Anniversary Red - 1:848 packs SuperFractor - 1/1 70th Anniversary SuperFractor - 1:3,384 packs Printing Plates - 1/1" Scroll down even further, and you'll see "2020 Topps Chrome Formula 1 Racing Insert Refractor Parallels Breakdown Gold Refractor - #/50 Gold Wave Refractor - #/50 Orange Refractor - #/25 Red Refractor - #/5 SuperFractor - 1/1 Printing Plates - 1/1" Then, in the autographs section, you'll see in smaller print: "Chrome Autographs Set Checklist 52 cards. 1:2 boxes. REFRACTOR PARALLELS: Green #/99, Gold #/50, Gold Wave #/50, Orange #/25, Red #/5, SuperFractor 1/1, Printing Plates 1/1." Essentially, this is the way Cardboard connection does it. So instead of listing each serial numbered card as it's own separate card on the checklist, they list the base checklist only, the autograph checklist and any insert checklists separately, but note what serial numbered variations and/or refractor variations you can also pull. I hope this helps!
Hi Jaime! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I feel great about the Hobby Lite boxes at the $500 USD price point (many available on ebay.com right now)... You get four exclusive parallels and still have a chance at other SPs and serial numbered cards, refractors, etc. No guaranteed auto, but a good more at the price point. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hey Alex, Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Great question. I'm not entirely sure, as Topps hasn't released the schedule for 2022 releases yet, but based on the last two years, I'd guess they won't come out until Q1 of 2023.
Nice overview. I also like the Track Tags insert in 2020 Chrome. Not as valuable as base drivers but the look is cool, very colorful like Downtowns and Color Blast, and if they stick with this insert in multiple years maybe the popularity will grow
Hey Skribe81, glad you found us and thanks so much for watching and commenting. I think you're on to something with Track Tags. They look pretty sweet. They could be a nice diamond in the rough long term from the inaugural Topps Chrome F1 set.
Yo! Great points. Love the "Avoid: Mazepin! / Latifi" - my 12 year old son made a joke to me the other day that the only reason he knows who Latifi is is because of the F1 video game with Latifi being the only driver he could see, because Latifi was always in second to last and my son was always in last. :) Agree on being super safe buying Hamilton, Max and Charles... Do you think it's a good time to buy Lewis if there's a dip in pricing due to performance with the car this year? Also, would love more thoughts on why you think Kimi, Sebastian and Fernando are underrated. Thanks again for watching and commenting!
@@PaulHickey Hey :) Yes, I would always but Hamilton but I am also a fan of him since 2007 ;) I think he is the GOAT, he holds nearly every important record and in some years a documentation of him will be released. I think he is (in my opinion) the safest bet. But in F1 it is also all about hype, Vettel won 4 championships and his cards are not even nearly as high prices as charles cards, who has "just" won two races this season
@@racingcardsstation1109 good stuff! Thanks man. FYI, we are starting a new show on this channel called the F1 strategy show. Stay tuned. Also would love your thoughts on our F1 card rankings at NoOffseason.com
@@korycreative Awesome, let me know how I can help you. I think you should check out my Sports Card Investment Report at nooffseason.com and let me know what you think!
My experience is that Base Sapphire is misleading though. For new F1 investors, Base Sapphire can appear special or short-printed, but it's not. Sapphire SP refractors and / or serial numbered refractors though, yes definitely, you're right. I'm not sure the data says Sapphire is the focus as of yet. Why do you feel its undervalued? Thanks for watching and commenting!
Hey Chris, thanks for watching and commenting. I think if you're concerned about the value dipping (which I don't think it will) or simply want to cash out for other reasons, like to invest in something else or need money to pay bills or something, I'd say you'd get your money back, but probably not much more than that right now. Personally, I think the 2021 Topps Chrome F1 Hobby Boxes will eventually get to around $2k ... it may take a year or so, but I think it will happen.
@@PaulHickey thanks for the reply, yeah I don't have to have the money by selling the box. The thing is I paid 500 it would be easy to break it at 500 as I'm sure I get 500 back out in singles ...but given I can sell it for 1k that's a 100% gain to sell it. It's always the question with any card product given how much boxes climb Do you think the odds are I gain 1k in cards or would I shoot myself in the foot? Given I have not followed much on the singles market I dono where values lie And your very welcome. Your video is extremely useful and is helping me make and informed dission
@@therealrumblefish I see. That makes sense. I'd sell the box sealed then. That way you guarantee the profit. Singles prices can be high, but knowing the box sells for $1,100, I'd go that way. Good work!
Thanks for watching and commenting Ell. Are Lights Out investable though? I can see they're solid collectibles, but are they rising in value and selling well from a flipping standpoint? That's the main reason we didn't mention them, but you're right and we will cover them further in upcoming shows.
I feel that you understated the value of sapphire. The print runs are very low and if you look at baseball, the sapphire historically does great. I personally invest in the sapphire because I also think they look better
Great point SwagKing1972. I definitely may have understated Sapphire's value. I think Sapphire holds as much value as regular Chrome in general, but was trying to make the point that when buying singles, many new investors may not realize that Sapphire is it's own set, thus a Sapphire Base card is generally not necessarily as valuable as a Topps Chrome Refractor, if that makes sense. Different situations will occur where this isn't the case, but I could see some people getting it twisted and thinking, "oh, that card looks cool, it must be a short print of some sort," when really it's a Sapphire base card. So overall I agree with you on Sapphire's value, but want people to know the difference when buying singles as investments. That said, you got me thinking about what the initial hobby box price of 2020 Topps Chrome F1 was and what the initial price of 2020 Topps Chrome F1 Sapphire was. This thread on Blowout seems to say that the original hobby box price of 2020 Topps Chrome F1 was $100???? Is this true? www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1404567 If so, that's crazy. Those, as we all know, are now $5k a box. As far as Sapphire, not sure what 2020 F1 Topps Chrome Sapphire released at, because they were only for Montgomery Club Members, but a year ago, they were $139 for Montgomery Club Members and a year ago on the secondary markets they were $800-$900 a hobby box. Also something to consider. There were no autos in this release. So that's another reason why buying sealed wax isn't as recommended of an investment from my POV. They're now going for around $4k - $5k. So if I had to pick between the two, regular 2020 Topps Chrome F1 is the way I'm going, due to the auto possibilities.
What’s the difference between the rookie freshest and the normal base rookie is the base rc more valuable ? Is the freshest a insert
@@IsGAdrian the regular portraits carry more value. The freshest is an insert set for some of the younger drivers and rookies. Many consider it to be the next best to the base portrait for George Russell, lando.
@@IsGAdrian thanks so much for watching and commenting! The rookie freshest is an insert and doesn’t have as high a value as the regular refractors.
Sapphires are refractor’s you did not state that in your video.
The only cards people need are sapphire 2020 cards. These are the holy grail.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Which ones do you have?
Great video ! I’m looking into starting a high end F1 collection soon. where do you think in your opinion I should start my collection ? Thanks
Thanks for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it. I think a good place to start is buying singles of the 2020 Topps Chrome F1. Getting liquid guys like Lewis, Max, George and Lando is a good place to start. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'm always happy to answer!
Just stumbled upon this video. Great insights. I’ve been on Oscar myself a buddy turned me onto him after he won F2 Did you happen to do a follow up video ?
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Legacy Sports Cards 704. I really appreciate it. I have plenty more F1 Card Strategy Shows here - nooffseason.com/sports-card-podcasts/f1-card-strategy-show/
What are your thoughts on the new 2022 Topps Flagship Hobby Box?
Hey Kevan! Great question. Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm thinking that if Enzo Fittipaldi's first cards are in this set, it could have some upside, but the checklist isn't out yet, and I'd wait until the Chrome release comes out before I buy any.
Hello I have a psa 10 Yuki negative, it’s a negative but psa had a typo and put chartreuse, I picked up the card on eBay is the card worth more or does the typo not affect the card in any way?
Hey, thanks for watching and commenting. Great card and great question. The typo won't affect the value of the card, but I'd consider sending it back to PSA to have them label it correctly. That way when you sell it, the buyer knows exactly what they're getting.
Is there a resource for showing the serial numbers on the cards associated with the right set? Mostly asking for this as another way to verify the card is from the set you are targeting (base vs chrome vs sapphire) on listing.
Hi Dominick, thanks so much for watching and commenting. The best current resource for this is cardboardconnection.com ... We're also updating our player profiles at NoOffseason.com to focus on this as well.
@@PaulHickey Hello and thanks for the quick reply. I was actually using cardboardconnection but couldn't find what I was looking for specific to the serial codes by year and type (example 2020 topps chrome vs 2021 topps chrome). I mainly looked on the checklist besides just generally looking around. Would I find it on the checklist or can you be more specific cause I couldn't seem to find it on my own.
@@dominickschiavo1479 Yo Dominick! On this link for example - www.cardboardconnection.com/2020-topps-chrome-formula-1-racing-cards - if you scroll down to right under the first photo, you'll see the first breakdown of serial numbers... "2020 Topps Chrome Formula 1 Racing Base Refractor Parallels Breakdown
Refractor - 1:3 packs
Purple Refractor - #/399
70th Anniversary Gold - 1:30 packs
70th Anniversary Orange - 1:46 packs
Gold Refractor - #/50
Gold Wave Refractor - #/50
Orange Refractor - #/25
Orange Wave Refractor - #/25
Red Refractor - #/5
Red Wave Refractor - #/5
70th Anniversary Red - 1:848 packs
SuperFractor - 1/1
70th Anniversary SuperFractor - 1:3,384 packs
Printing Plates - 1/1"
Scroll down even further, and you'll see "2020 Topps Chrome Formula 1 Racing Insert Refractor Parallels Breakdown
Gold Refractor - #/50
Gold Wave Refractor - #/50
Orange Refractor - #/25
Red Refractor - #/5
SuperFractor - 1/1
Printing Plates - 1/1"
Then, in the autographs section, you'll see in smaller print: "Chrome Autographs Set Checklist
52 cards. 1:2 boxes.
REFRACTOR PARALLELS: Green #/99, Gold #/50, Gold Wave #/50, Orange #/25, Red #/5, SuperFractor 1/1, Printing Plates 1/1."
Essentially, this is the way Cardboard connection does it. So instead of listing each serial numbered card as it's own separate card on the checklist, they list the base checklist only, the autograph checklist and any insert checklists separately, but note what serial numbered variations and/or refractor variations you can also pull. I hope this helps!
If you were purchasing a hobby box, would you buy 2021 Topps Chrome or 2021 Topps Chrome Sapphire and why?
Yo David! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I'd do 2021 Topps Chrome, since there's a chance of an auto. I'm a sucker for autos. :)
How do you feel about the lite boxes? Do you feel as if they’re investable?
Hi Jaime! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I feel great about the Hobby Lite boxes at the $500 USD price point (many available on ebay.com right now)... You get four exclusive parallels and still have a chance at other SPs and serial numbered cards, refractors, etc. No guaranteed auto, but a good more at the price point. Thanks for watching and commenting!
The relic cards of the Flagship “paper set” are really nice with the patches. Do you like them.
For sure. I like them a lot as solid investments. Nice call. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Print quality is the worst do on those. Very poor edges. I have send some russell and norris ones to psa. But I dont think they will do very good.
@@Goriszoon Seems to be a common theme with many of the F1 releases, unfortunately. Keep us posted on how you do on the grades.
When will Topps Release 2022 chrome f1 packs??
Hey Alex, Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Great question. I'm not entirely sure, as Topps hasn't released the schedule for 2022 releases yet, but based on the last two years, I'd guess they won't come out until Q1 of 2023.
@@PaulHickey Thank you so much !!
@@curiositv2854 No problem! Thanks for watching and commenting, and let me know if I help with anything else.
Nice video Paul. I’ve been more interested in F1 this year. I think Sergio Perez is a good investment as the face of Mexican racing
Hey man! Thanks so much. Yes, I agree. Great call on Perez. He has pole today for Red Bull. Pretty impressive!
Nice overview. I also like the Track Tags insert in 2020 Chrome. Not as valuable as base drivers but the look is cool, very colorful like Downtowns and Color Blast, and if they stick with this insert in multiple years maybe the popularity will grow
Hey Skribe81, glad you found us and thanks so much for watching and commenting. I think you're on to something with Track Tags. They look pretty sweet. They could be a nice diamond in the rough long term from the inaugural Topps Chrome F1 set.
Buy: Hamilton, Max and Charles
Avoid: Mazepin, Latifi 😅
underrated: Kimi, Sebastian, Fernando
Yo! Great points. Love the "Avoid: Mazepin! / Latifi" - my 12 year old son made a joke to me the other day that the only reason he knows who Latifi is is because of the F1 video game with Latifi being the only driver he could see, because Latifi was always in second to last and my son was always in last. :) Agree on being super safe buying Hamilton, Max and Charles... Do you think it's a good time to buy Lewis if there's a dip in pricing due to performance with the car this year? Also, would love more thoughts on why you think Kimi, Sebastian and Fernando are underrated. Thanks again for watching and commenting!
@@PaulHickey Hey :) Yes, I would always but Hamilton but I am also a fan of him since 2007 ;) I think he is the GOAT, he holds nearly every important record and in some years a documentation of him will be released. I think he is (in my opinion) the safest bet. But in F1 it is also all about hype, Vettel won 4 championships and his cards are not even nearly as high prices as charles cards, who has "just" won two races this season
@@racingcardsstation1109 good stuff! Thanks man. FYI, we are starting a new show on this channel called the F1 strategy show. Stay tuned. Also would love your thoughts on our F1 card rankings at NoOffseason.com
Solid!
Hey David, Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Are you investing in any F1 cards?
@@PaulHickey Hey, yeah slowly buying singles and learning about the F1 space
@@korycreative Awesome, let me know how I can help you. I think you should check out my Sports Card Investment Report at nooffseason.com and let me know what you think!
You should be saying Sapphire as the main focus release……….. by far……
My experience is that Base Sapphire is misleading though. For new F1 investors, Base Sapphire can appear special or short-printed, but it's not. Sapphire SP refractors and / or serial numbered refractors though, yes definitely, you're right. I'm not sure the data says Sapphire is the focus as of yet. Why do you feel its undervalued? Thanks for watching and commenting!
Think I should sell my hobby box or break it ...would I get my money out giving its worth 1100
Hey Chris, thanks for watching and commenting. I think if you're concerned about the value dipping (which I don't think it will) or simply want to cash out for other reasons, like to invest in something else or need money to pay bills or something, I'd say you'd get your money back, but probably not much more than that right now. Personally, I think the 2021 Topps Chrome F1 Hobby Boxes will eventually get to around $2k ... it may take a year or so, but I think it will happen.
@@PaulHickey thanks for the reply, yeah I don't have to have the money by selling the box.
The thing is I paid 500 it would be easy to break it at 500 as I'm sure I get 500 back out in singles ...but given I can sell it for 1k that's a 100% gain to sell it. It's always the question with any card product given how much boxes climb
Do you think the odds are I gain 1k in cards or would I shoot myself in the foot?
Given I have not followed much on the singles market I dono where values lie
And your very welcome.
Your video is extremely useful and is helping me make and informed dission
@@therealrumblefish I see. That makes sense. I'd sell the box sealed then. That way you guarantee the profit. Singles prices can be high, but knowing the box sells for $1,100, I'd go that way. Good work!
@@PaulHickey yeah hard to turn down prifit
@@therealrumblefish Yep and you can always buy back in!
Yesssir
Thanks Seth! Appreciate you watching and commenting!
You missed lights out too. It is an amazing set..
Thanks for watching and commenting Ell. Are Lights Out investable though? I can see they're solid collectibles, but are they rising in value and selling well from a flipping standpoint? That's the main reason we didn't mention them, but you're right and we will cover them further in upcoming shows.