"The Dark Decade": The Chilling Civil War That Turned Neighbour Against Neighbour
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
- We look at Algeria's turbulent past in the newest episode of Untangling Africa. Join us as we delve into the complexities of the Algerian Civil War, a dark and often overlooked chapter in Modern Africa's history. This is Untangling Africa #15
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:35 Independent Algeria
5:20 Violence and Economic Struggles - 1980s Algeria
9:31 Le Front Islamique du Salut
15:03 Algerian Civil War
19:05 The Black Decade Continues
21:24 Final Guerilla Actions and Aftermath
Can’t believe you skipped over the assassination of Mohamed Boudiaf on live tv….I was a young child in constantine during the civil war, I remember the curfews and stories of massacres around the country…but somehow we still managed to have moments of joy and love, it wasn’t complete mayhem all the time but my parents didn’t see much of a future and decide to migrate out of the country, I dream of a more prosperous time for Algeria, hopefully it will happen in my life time.
You managed to have moments of joy because it was NOT a civil war. I lived through the years of terrorism, and it wasn't a war. It was unsafe, and a lot of people suffered and got killed by terrorists. The west wanted to called "Civil war" this guy gets his info second hand.
I'm an American in my teens at the time and had no idea about this happening. I only became aware of this while reading The Great War for Civilization by Robert Fisk in the mid 2000s.
Boudiaf n'était que l'agent de makhzen.
it remember once in "oued elhed" in constantine (i live in benshikou) we woke up to tens of people slaughterred in the oued,they were in their pijamas,it was horrible.
but there were good times as well.
@@ahmedbenidir7098 I've read about the Algerian military and intelligence services infiltrating the armed groups and commiting some of the atrocities. Is this true?
It is darkly comical how many "national liberation" type events just descend into bloody score-settling. The Congo makes just about everyone else look like amateurs, but plenty still gave it their best effort.
Never in history have those who call for “states rights” or “national rights” cared about human rights. It is best if such people remain under the boot of a larger nation
@@vondas1480agree, America shouldve remained under Britains thumb to prevent the horrors of slavery
@@Adrian-lu5vcThat's a good answer to a horrible statement. Bravo
@@Adrian-lu5vc You think the Africans wouldn't have just sold them to the Arabs instead?
@@Adrian-lu5vc very historically illiterate, it was never a movement about national liberation, they specifically wanted the rights of colonial citizens and laid out even more human rights (that later groups of foolish muslim and Christian rulers would ignore and then cry when they were deprived of them). Have a better education before speaking.
I was born in 2001 in Algeria so i missed most of the period, all we hear is the stories from our parents and relatives, a notable one is that my uncle was in the GIA and my auntie's Husband was a liberal journalist and that made them turn against each other , i felt it when he mentioned the Arab spring i remember when all of the other countries were protesting and everyone here were afraid that protests may plunge us into civil war again.
The govt shoudl've never left the socialist orientation it had since the independance.
The islamists we fought in the 90's were the very same that the Russians (soviets) fought in Afghanistan. They came back way more radicalized from the war in Afghanistan, the Russians warned the govt, as they were facing the same phenomenon in Chechnya.
These bloody americans did all they could to undermine secular socialist arab leaders in algeria in favour of Islamists wahhabist scums.
Le terme guerre civile est impropre en ce qui concerne ce qui s'est passé en Algérie.
Les algériens, par ignorance et désespoir, ont voté pour des extrémistes.
Les généraux ont puni le peuple en utilisant le GIA.
@@amar-ali6065
Ils ont pas voté pour des extrémistes.
@@Exceedtherealm Somebody did.
@@Exceedtherealm en quoi le FIS est modéré ? volé des fillettes de villages , tué des musulmans car ils veulent pas pratiquer la pédophilie c'est modéré ? tuer des prêtres c'est modéré ? les gens comme doit doivent partir vivre en Afghanistan, l'Algérie a pas besoin de vous.
I am from India, and conflicts like the Yugoslav wars and the Algerian civil war is a cautionary tale for a country as ethnically and religiously diverse as mine.
as an Algerian-Slovak muslim mix(whose grandparents still remember the nazis) you guys are going down the path of Esoteric Fascism and possibly a civil war. The ethnic violence will be terrible. Hell those Hindutva guy literally parrot nazis, probably without realizing.
Isn't Hindu extremist on the massive rise in India lately? Thanks in part to heavy far-right nationalist sentiments fueled especially from Narendra Modi and his own political party.
@@DarkZerolWhat does that have to do with anything?!😅 It's true tho. But the opposite is also true
@@tausifchowdhury8180it have a lot to do with anything because that usually how civil war start
@@DarkZerol Exactly. Theocrats are a curse to any nation.
I wish Algerians all the best. Good luck from Norway
I'm algerian, the govt shoudl've never left the socialist orientation it had since the independance.
The islamists we fought in the 90's were the very same that the Russians (soviets) fought in Afghanistan. They came back way more radicalized from the war in Afghanistan, the Russians warned the govt, as they were facing the same phenomenon in Chechnya.
These bloody americans did all they could to undermine secular socialist arab leaders in algeria in favour of Islamists.
Thank you, Algeria fell victim to politics and religion in the 1990s... politics because of a nuclear reactor that was announced in 1989, and religion because Algerians live like Europeans and must be fought with ideas of ter..orism..
Ideas coming from Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan. A strife cost Algeria 300,000 victims over 20 years.
@@jackhuge6054I smell a murtad
@@jackhuge6054 Algerian never lived like europeans. Stop spreading lies you sound ridiculous.
@@someboi4535
This is according to the words of the religious sheikhs coming from Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and so on... They issued fatwas stating that the Algerians should live like the Afghans live today..They should give up their lives like the Europeans... This is a fact, so do not lie.
Sadly, the effects of the Algerian civil war still linger on south in West Africa
Sadly Morocco didn't feel the effects as their youths are so cucked, sadly.
@@RealSlayer. Cool. Understandable.
@@RealSlayer. sharia will not work elsewhere. Just take looks Saudi because sharia are don't working well since MBS be acting king. they were modernizing their law and in some area they will not use sharia law because it was outdated and bring people into darkness. And for example take a looks Afghanistan
@@RealSlayer. 🗿I didn't say no or disagreed. Fi dzair 9ol kho wa khoya 🗿
This video is also a lie most Algerian support what he would call Islamism? It wants about secularism and Islamism
My mom grew up during that time and apparently the violence got so bad at times that she would see dead people on the street on her way to school. She also witnessed someone getting shot in the head while she was with her friend. Inshallah my country will heal from that horrible time and we can build it up to be better than before❤
it should start by abandoning the so called "religion of peace". free yourself from it
no thank you andrew we are doing perfectly fine I belive right now.@@andrewlee-py9zm
😂😂😂 or maybe we should all realise ourselves from all the religions cuz also Judaism and Christianity are not innocent they killed millions of peoples by colonization 😊@@andrewlee-py9zm
@@andrewlee-py9zm By that logic Christianity should've been abandoned during the start of the renaissance because it was detrimental. Judaism should've been abandoned during Roman rule etc. Also, radicalism can happen surrounding any ideology. Singling one out is no the solution
@@tausifchowdhury8180 i dont see radical buddhist bombing buses
My father was veteran in liberation war. And civil war Algerians called dark decade was result of government . corruption. Back by france And Muslim brotherhood’s seeking power. Back by saudis & Iran
Fr fr ong
France didn’t make this group, it was the algerian government eho created it to do terrorism on french territory, then it backfired the gia started attacking Algerians.
Damn that like too many goverment control by foreign force
you want white European puppet government? be real
Saudi definitely did not back Muslim Brotherhood
Another episode of Untangling Africa? Always makes for an informative day.
The Algerian Civil War was one of the least studied wars despite the fact that it is way more relevant to the War on Terror and the Arab Spring than the sugarcoated Battle of Algiers or the worthless debate between terrorist/Freedom Fighter rhetorics.
It showed the future of Africa. I saw an article written in 1991 by a think tank describing exactly what is happening today. Very uncanny.
The Wahhab have been contained and the ulama suppressed. Iran is now an atheist country with almost all the youth leaving Islam.
I'd advise reading Revolutions and Dictatorships: The Violent Origins of Durable Authoritarianism by Lucan Ahmed Way which have a dedicated chapter to Algeria and why following the social revolution, compromises led to a more fragile state compared to other places and eventually the civil war.
Recommend reading other than the Algeria chapter?
@@unknowninfinium4353
why this question? read what you want..
My father when he was 19 was from the first responders to the massacre of "ben tallha" , to this day he throws up randomly and have frequent nightmares from the incident remembering the horrors he witnessed
that is so tragic . may Allah reward him for his serves khoya . our country has been through a lot .
what happened in that massacre?
women man elders kids newborns died there throats slit open unborn babys snatched from there mothers bellies kids slamed to the wall nightmares happened @@user-se2dg9og1z
@@user-se2dg9og1z400 people in a suburb of Algiers were sl@ughterëd by islamists during the night on September 23 1997
My father left Algeria in 1990s after the situation of extremism got worse, his proffesor in the university he was attending, got behaded by some terrorist which was becoming very often.
They would just throw the body parts on the streets, just for people to find them.
One of my uncles was in the Algerian army at that point, one day he was on a balcony in a militay barack when a bomb blew right under it,he feel two stories down, luckily surviving.
For my father and other uncle this was enough so they left the country and imigrated to Germany.
Do they talk to you about the transition from Boumedienne to Chadli, the rise of FIS etc...???
@@renatoamadori4125 i'm algerian, the govt shoudl've never left the socialist orientation it had since the independance.
The islamists we fought in the 90's were the very same that the Russians (soviets) fought in Afghanistan. They came back way more radicalized from the war in Afghanistan, the Russians warned the govt, as they were facing the same phenomenon in Chechnya.
These bloody americans did all they could to undermine secular socialist arab leaders in algeria in favour of Islamists wahhabist scums.
The criminals were the ANP
@@user-jr8fg5zi3f yeah people are dumb , and they dont want reality , they dont go to real probleme
Why not france, where proper secularism practiced .
"Decontextualized verses of the Quran" is an interesting note that I'm surprised I haven't heard before
Lol, the context is violent!
as it should be @@bunnystrasse
@@bunnystrasse Bruv, litterally the Quran was revealed when litterally everyone betrayed and massacred the Muslims.
@@addounsamiyoucef1999typical
Yes because it is "decontextualized" it doesn't make sense for "Muslims" to kill Muslims and it would be allowed in Islam
It's more complicated than secular vs islamists. Firstly in the Algerian state constitution's Islam is the state religion. Boumediene did a "non secular" revolution inspired by the socialist era, but was still adamant about Algeria being a muslim country. There's an Islamic assembly in government, separated from the general assembly. So no the state is not really secular like westerners think of secularism.
While Algeria was and is a Muslims country there is a spectrum
@HoussamNekkaa Yes it's not a full on caliphate, but there's of a somewhat muslim culture and state religion. But it's still inspired by arab nationalism.
The government is secular and in place because of France. All Muslim countries would be ruled by Islam if western forces weren’t protecting tyrannical or corrupt secular leaders instead
Moreover, FIS claimed Islam but just like every other self proclaimed islamist movement they are just as secular as the others
Exactly @@HoussamNekkaa
Great you made a video about this war that surprisingly isn't talked about almost never. My dad used to go there on vacation every summer but since the war started he hasn't come back, more than 30 years later
RIP
But where are you from?
@@LaPointe1 He didn't die lol. Fortunately he's alive and well. My family are kouloughlis from Guelma, near Constantine
u should write gone back instead of come back. other wise it is a misinterpretation.
@@osowiecwalking9434 sorry, english is not my main language
Because it's one of those wars that are funded by Europe,it would make sense they would want to hide it.
We all spotted some mistakes there (although altogether it's an interesting video, thank you for taking the time to make it):
1) the cause of the tensions in 1975 wasn't the refusal of access to the Atlantic ocean coast, it was Algeria's support of the independence of WS and the Polisario, and the refusal of the illegal annexation by the Kingdom of Morocco, something that has angered the Moroccan authorities, but it would never have escalted to war.
2) The group you ention wasn't the Palestinian group Hamas lead by Abu Hania, but another group with a similar sounding name, so i understand the confusion.
3) Boumediene didn't just die, he was poisoned, otherwise he was in perfect shape.
4) the estimate of deaths is around 400000 killed.
5)things that weren't mentioned:
-Boudiaf was murdered on live TV.
-the FIS used the doctrine/sect of Khawareej and were supported by foreign countries.
-the meaning of the title? (no but seriousely, where in the video is the title explained lol)
-I'm curious to see the sources for the "Semaine sanglante"? what's that? I've never heard of such a thing.
the doctrine of the khawarij ))) on what aspects.
I also heard from an algerian who was a kid at that time that there were foreign action taken to spread un cohesion among the “terror” groups by committing assasination and massacres amd attributing those actions to them.
'Doctrine of khawarij' - do you mean they were Ibadis?
Boumediene being poisoned is just another conspiracy theory that has no evidence whatsoever
exactly! the Sand war 1963 was started by morocco! beacuse Hassan II wanted the land (tindouf) that he claimed that FLN promised him, beacuse of the support Morocco gave Algeria during the indipendence war against the french.
@@Swindoon butin reality, Farhat Abbas never promised Morocco anything ,if you check out their treaty, they simply agreed to settle the borders after independence, but seeing that we had a weak army in 1963 (just after liberation) they wanted to take the opportunity to take us out, before we had a chance to get stronger ,and to invade Tindouf and bechar (that were never theirs to start with: false historical claim, like with Mauritania and WS) Not to mention that Morocco actually betrayed us during the Algerian war, they were the reason the war extended for 8 years bcz of the 6 leaders plane highjacking. And if everybody who helped us got a piece of land, we would be left with Algiers size of a country lol (and Morocco would take a small baladiya at most, they sucked at helping Algeria but were very helpful to France)
The civil war in Algeria is sort of a mirror of the Civil War in Ireland after the Irish War of Independence. Tragic
Ireland and Algeria are brothers, they experienced the same suffering for the independence of their people, that is why they unconditionally support the Palestinians because they know that what is the oppression and dehumanization of your people, proud to be Algerian we will always fight for the oppressed peoples of the world
True@@Binkan46
My grand father was a corporal in the FLN and was part of the ALN too, he joined it after he saw how French rule has destroyed their lives and dominated the country for all these years, this came after my grand grand father came back from WW2, drafted by the French and just dying some days after he came back.
He had a pretty high position in the Army, having the job to spy on French miltary positions in Oran an reporting them back to the leadership.
His days were nealy done after he got into a heavy firefight with the French, after a traitor informed the French Army about his location, he got shot with one bullet in his throat and two his left leg, for some miracle he survived after some fellow comarades found him in a ditch loosing blood and brought him into a hospital, partially recovering in 2 weeks.
He had to flee tho, because the French army found out where he was.
The only think i still know abt him being a soldier in the FLN is that he burned all his documents after the war because he taught that the indepandance was a trick, so the Army can locate all the other resitance groups and eradicate them.
He unforunatley died in 2015because due to injuries in a quad mtv accident in 2013.
He is still a Legend for me and hes the reason why i am where i am right now, may he rest in peace.
what was his name
Interesting story thank you an God bless.
@@harounmerahbaoui969 Meesaoud and his undercover name was Murad.
Saying "France rule have destroyed them" is completly dumb.
@@ad3l547 On my mothers side, they were forced out of their homes,by armed soldiers to do things they didn't want to. If they didn't agree with them, they were imprisoned or executed.
And in the Algerian war, on my mothers side they bombed my grandmother's village aswell imprisoned innocent civilians and on my father's side my grandmother experienced how 5 family members were shot even tho they were innocent.
She also had to hide in a water well whilst being her village was bombarded.
They lived at that time and if they say their life's were not good because there was an occupying army treating them like third class humans, then they have the right to say that.
And just for a reality check, since the colonization of 1830, 5.6 million Algerians were killed.
Thanks for the video!
My mother would see chopped heads hanging on fences on her way to work in school (which was a long way), she was well into horror movies before but that changed after
Another great video guys, thanks for making this for the betterment of all of our collective knowledge.
I was in high school during this civil war and I've no recollection of it, mustn't have made good enough headlines in Australia at the time...
I'm algerian, the govt shoudl've never left the socialist orientation it had since the independance.
The islamists we fought in the 90's were the very same that the Russians (soviets) fought in Afghanistan. They came back way more radicalized from the war in Afghanistan, the Russians warned the govt, as they were facing the same phenomenon in Chechnya.
These bloody americans did all they could to undermine secular socialist arab leaders in algeria in favour of Islamists wahhabist scums.
Wonderful - i definitely learned something new👍
I remember reading about the conflict in Algeria during the Nineties and feeling horrified at the frequent massacres. It was so tragic . Thankfully Algeria came through it and ended the terrible violence.
I am Algerian and I was a child during this decade , it was nightmarish , alhamdolilah now this is over and we live in peace and stability , but the trauma is engraved in our bones I remember every minute of it , every traumatic masacare every horrible crime , my heart is aching just remembering 💔 I remember that before sleeping every night I would think of what should we do if terrorists would attack us , where we should hide or what should I do to save my little siblings , the fault was on the army they should have let FIS took their chairs in the parliament
The army didn't do nothing to eradicate Islamic extremists from Algeria
the fault of the army was that they gave them the license to practice politics while their project was to eleminate any form of democracy in the country
@@Canadianpatriot2024sans l'armée l'Algérie n'existerait plus sur la carte géographique.
La guerre civile des années 90 était concoctée dans les bureaux des officines noires occidentales et financée par les pays du Golfe leur but de détruire l'Algérie.
L'armée algérienne était calquée sur l'armée Russe donc très lourde à réagir elle n'était pas préparée pour une guerre de guérilla avec le temps et la création de commandements opérationnel qui réagissent sans attendre les ordres a tout attentats a fait que les hordes terroristes furent vaincues et exterminés.
L'armée algérienne actuelle est une armée non seulement moderne et super équipée mais c'est la seule armée dans le monde à pourvoir faire face à une guerre de guérilla car avec le temps Elle a su avoir 20 ans d'expérience de guerre anti guellira.
So we could be living under an Islamic dictatorship like in Iran? The extremists showed their true face, sacrificing young men for their own cause. I'd rather have Tebboune and his corrupt friends.
@@capricornegalaxy5393guerre civile ? Ca c’est un terme occidental, nous avions mené une guerre contre un ennemi financé et soutenu de l’étranger
Video on the Tajik Civil War, maybe?
Great video man
Finally someone making a video about the algerian civil war. Why is it so less discused?
Really? Algeria almost went to war with Morocco for Atlantic access? Algeria refused access to Atlantic when offered by Morocco and Mauritania to divide Western Sahara into 3 parts, and supported Polisario instead. Mauritania remained in the deal to divide it into 2 parts until 1978 before abandoning the idea.
ikr? Idk why he had to say it that way? It's literally denying the illegal annexation of western Sahara? like we don't even care about that access, we just want Morocco to fuck off from the colonized natives land. Fuck settler colonialism.
Yes too coward to admit it but algeria created, armed and spent billions for the polisario front to have access to the atlantic
@@adilnourddine9747 you wish. Polisario was there way before Morocco even thought of annexing WS. Freedom to WS! Free WS! and i stand with WS
@@starsock2986
No! Polisario is an algerian creation and has become an algerian issue today, morocco won the sahara and algeria won the polisario.... tikitik no atlantik!
@@adilnourddine9747 Freedom will be to the native, like in Palestine, like in WS. You can spread all the propaganda you want, but the truth will always prevail. Justice to Sahrawis, Freedom to Sahrawis, Rabi yonsorhom 3ala al 9awm el dalimin.
You should definitely do a video about the Sri Lankan civil war
For sure. Both the LTTE and JVP conflicts
Sadly i grow up in Algeia during these atrocities, so I was kinda shaking while xatching it since I still recall every single events, i still remember the October 5th 1988, even, the marches of the 1990, 1991, the GIA massacres in Bentalha and Rais.. Sadly that's what I temember from my teenage years.. I call it teenage Nightmare as opposed to "Teenage dreams". Hey, but we are okay, at least we get stories to tell to our children.
Write your memoirs for future generations. I've been writing mine now 20 years.
@@jamesalexander3530 it's gonna be amazing...!!! What do you think about Khalida Messaoudi...???
@@renatoamadori4125 shes a lady whos was arrested for corruption
Great video but I wish you went over Boudiaf's popularity and his assassination on live TV since that was one of the big turning points in the war.
A big love to our algerian brothers 🇹🇳❤️🔥🇩🇿
جميع الدول المغاربية أشقاؤنا
You made a mistake actually H"amas it's not Algerian, and the pic is to Ismail Hania who's the Palestinian leader of H"amas the resistance movement it's not Algerian this is mistake just to let you know
Edited: I searched about it, there's a Islamic party called hem's حركة حمس not hamas ( cuz it's Palestinian) and you put the wrong picture of its leader.
this was dumb ngl, i laughed a bit. But Hamas did have a little friendship there with the Islamic groups present in Algeria which led to a tense period in the Algerian-Palestinian relations. But it's all better now Allhamdulilah, with Hamas very much supported by Algeria (they have a spokesman and were received before)
I don’t understand how can muslims see what radical muslims do and still support the chaos they create. It’s narcism at this point
No, there was a party referred to as h*mas. Nothing to do with Ismail though
As an Algérien, thanks for making this video
Your pronunciation of Algérie killed me
Could've used google traduction 😅
As an Algerian this was a pleasant surprise.
I was six years old but I remember one time the army shooting at islamists in the neighborhood, I was walking to school and saw people injured and blood everywhere...it was very scary, thank God the bakery owner of our neighborhood hid us in his shop until the shooting stopped ( my parents were sure I died)
Where?
Lies
I know it is just a youtube vid..but the number of historical shortcuts and narrative extrapolations is amazing. How can one speak about the History of a country without speaking of the local socio economical situation that led to its tumbling down into the bloodshed of the 90s. And without bringing up the international intricacies( the US supporting extreme islamism in Afganistan) ..the IMF/US/ Europe wanting to privatize algeria's economy etc
wait are you sure Hamas was in Algeria? the picture in the video was for Ismail Haniyeh but I couldn't find anything related to that on the internet. other than that, well done my friend. it was very informative and well put.
Hamas party belonging to Mahfoud Nahnah
Hamas is part of the Muslim Brotherhood, which was active in Algeria, but not sure what local group it was affiliated with.
6:32 "Gained control over" is such a vile way to say gained support from. McCarthyism is alive and well
France still play the role in Algeria policy hopefully Algerians people learn the lesson and look forward to unity and build strong country
"muh france is responsable for my low iq islamic population!!!"
Any power vaccum left by western nations will be filled by Saudi Arabia, not sure who youd rather have there, the saudis may be even worse.
2 censored replies. RUclips and Algeria have something in common lmao.
how many algerians are in france? of course france will have a role in algeria politics
Fun fact: anyone talking like this while having an Algerian flag are 99% not Algerian. nice try, try better next time
I'm Algerian born in 01-01-1987 i lived and saw the civil war nightmare with my eyes. my fathers is a victiù of those terrorists. thank's to Allah they gone now.
Learnt something new, thanks
Some places aren’t meant for republics or democracies.
No place is. democracy=degeneracy
I see you never bothered looking into any scholarship at all on democracy, political science, or international relations. There’s a full political science/ international relations course on Yale’s RUclips channel. Don’t let the fact it’s from an ivy dissuade you. It’s one of the best introductions/ overviews on the subject out there.
Those places should be returned to nature.
@@nicholassmith8779 okay poison Ivy,
@@nicholassmith8779how about you stick to your own country, what makes you have a bigger word than their own people?
The religion of peace & where was their old colonial master that was suppose to help them? Washed their hands clean
the religion of not having aids
little frenchie remember the milk bar ?
Want to hear a joke ?
France
A second joke ?
Your opinion 👍👌☠️
You're probably one of those losers who identify as an animal. 🤣🤣
I bet you dunno who your father is. A country of 60% bastards.
Survived this, death was such a normal thing, fear was constant, may all those who died finally find peace, children, women, and young conscripts dragged into this horror too soon...
I consider this to be the darkest chapter in Algeria's history, thank God all I experienced from it is stories but even that gave me chills. I thank God for the peaceful times we live in ...
this is what seculrism does
Then why you demand secularism in muslim minority country
Don't get that
@@divya9951 i don't, dk where you got that from
@@abdlahm1384 I mean most of the muslim
@@divya9951 they don't
@@abdlahm1384u mean islam?
This made me appreciate my country even more
"War is hell" -William Tecumsah Sherman
My mom fled the country due to this conflict!
A lot of misinformation, photos from other conflicts in other countries, what Ismael Haniaa doing in this video, he's a leader of the Palestinian HAMAS, Nahnah was the leader of the Algerian HAMAS. When you don't have enough information about any subject more research must be done or this is the American way to customize the history in her point of view. I'm Algerian and I lived there in the so-called BLACK DECADE
Islam will perish and the Muslim world will all be in the lake of fire.😂
Both are radical muslims and they are brothers in the end of day
حمس و حماس مش كيفكيف وشبيكم
@@moveone9013they were not the same , the fis has only the words , it didn't have anything to do with islam, and other terrorists groups were imported .
you just put me through the darkest years of childhood
Wach ha yjike man l islam w socialism ?
That's terrible, I'm sorry.
@@madcat789 it was tough but we managed to live through it and come on the other side of all of that !
@@AnissaMBeauty May the world be safe where you are for years to come. Let it not come to repeat again.
@@madcat789 I hope so too and wish that for everyone 😊
As someone who witnessed this "Dark Decade " first hand, trying to explain what happened in one video won't do it justice. (though you did a good job with the info you had)
We lost so many friends and loved ones, we were kicked from our homes and properties. Simply because the early 90s was the perfect environments for so many individuals to try and get their hands on a piece of the pie, and showed their thirst for power, to steer the country the way they wanted, that clash of ideology and politics resulted in what we like to call the Red decade. A decade where only the common folk suffered while most wealthy and powerful people fled the country towards France and other countries.
even as a religious person it is so apparent why theocratic governments will never work as leaders always end up corrupting the country. it’s so sad how Algeria has never been stable after independence
You don’t understand politics, your comment shows that you’re heavily biased or ignorant. Even the word « theocracy » is not right. But the problem here are the secular forces
@@commontouch1787your beloved Islamism completely annihilated my country Syria from the inside out so there’s that
Why is every one of you extremist? If you actually followed the sharia properly your 2 gazillion different groups would’ve been perfect but look at jabhet al nusra. Look at isis. HTS (al qaeda with a new name)
This same problem is shown in every form of government. Not just religious ones. I’m surprised you didn’t understand it well
The entire reason I live in the United States was because my parents escaped this Civil War, so thanks for this
Are there many Algerians in the USA, please? Is there a community there. Over here in the UK, there are many in London.
@@MrPolicekarim not really, it's a very small community, I meet more Moroccans and Tunisians than Algerians. My family did originally move to Manchester UK from Algeria before moving to the US.
Why they choose the USA please?@@HookedonChronics
@@MrPolicekarim my dad got into the University of Houston which is in Texas.
What he studied please?@@HookedonChronics
the first Friday of Hirak in 2019 was weird, I didn't really experience the black decade since I was born in the late 90s but when I got out to the streets to protest I really felt it, the pain and scars in the streets, few people protesting with me, voices were very low and so little movment, after the first Friday tho the Algerians got the courage they needed and shouted high and we made a change elhmdlh
No we didn't make any changes
@@bigupalgerian6479 it didn't change much, but some new policies are really wierd compared to where we were in 2010/2014, Algeria starting to open up (those travel vloggers ain't inviting themselves trust me) just where i live they started construction on an acces to the highway, an industrial zone, and a train station and a water Dam (them big ones a whole village was evicted for this one i think) if you go back 10 years these were election compaign level promises, but if they're not finished on time i guess shit still the same tbh
@@jugurthabelkacemi9824thakhna nmoujir nyamak nagh watmak ya dayouth zwavi fayeh chay3iyi Can wetmak thagjount hamlagh tarachin nalgvayal adas adas fille facile athkaligh akin Aka kach dayouth techti Tizi ouazzou hatchounou chal hlou Tizi ouazzou hatchounou chal hlou Tizi ouazzou
sadly, no change bro, still govt not doing anything now 3 month war in gaza no actions from teboun or army
@@jugurthabelkacemi9824is it in the capital ?
as an algerian i am thankful to be born on 2005 at the end of conflict algeria now is a peacfule country we only have protests in the capital
The algerian govt shoudl've never left the socialist orientation it had since the independance.
The islamists we fought in the 90's were the very same that the Russians (soviets) fought in Afghanistan. They came back way more radicalized from the war in Afghanistan, the Russians warned the govt, as they were facing the same phenomenon in Chechnya.
These bloody americans did all they could to undermine secular socialist arab leaders in algeria in favour of Islamists.
My body shudders when I hear about this period the black decade
I'm algerian, the govt shoudl've never left the socialist orientation it had since the independance.
The islamists we fought in the 90's were the very same that the Russians (soviets) fought in Afghanistan. They came back way more radicalized from the war in Afghanistan, the Russians warned the algerian govt, as they were facing the same phenomenon in Chechnya.
These bloody americans did all they could to undermine secular socialist arab leaders in various arab countries in favour of Islamists wahhabist scums.
This is why the collapse of the Soviet Union was the worse geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century.
I think you're throwing out the baby with the bath water. Liberalization and democracy is always preferable for both individual rights, economic growth and human development compared to authoritarianism. The clear problem here is the radical far right islamic extremism that has plagued nearly every middle eastern government regardless of the ruling governments ideology for centuries. Arab secularism was a fragile and temporary blip in the middle easts continuous reign of islamism in one form or another going back to the first caliphate.
Hard agree on this as a pakistani . The west gave birth to islamism , the west created casus belli to attack and invade our countries.
tell me you are an ignorant with out telling me you are an ignorant
أنت مرتد بخيانتك يا علماني الخبيث
In was 33 years in past Algeria stand for future
One important note that is not mentioned is that Chadhli's government borrowed from the gulf monarchies when the economic crisis started. In turn, they were allowed to export to Algeria their version of Islam, Wahabbism. Which is violent and was at odds with Algerian culture and traditional Sufi Islam that had shaped Algerian identity.
lol
@@addounsamiyoucef1999 ?
Nah its just politics, Army stepped in to stop an Islamist party from winning the election and things got ugly, it always ends in a civil war if a popular movement is suppressed by Army Arab nations never learn same happened in Syria.
When it is all over the winning part "reeducates" the population, same will happen in Syria they will paint the entire FSA with just bunch of extremists in their history books and move on.
@@addounsamiyoucef1999hilarious 💀
@@abdennouro8375 Remember they were persecuted and marginalized in Boumediene's time. So it's Chadhli's presidency that was the beginning of it.
Although I know this is history because I am_ Algerian, but __I really enjoy the video❤Thanks
The picture at around 18:50 referring to HMS, is actually depicting Hamas leader (palestinian) and not Algerian HMS leader. Hamas ane HMS arent the same thing
Lmao they were like we r free from France now let’s migrant to France
It’s true most afticans that are proud of Africa don’t live in africa.
They were migrating back then as well
no one is migrating to france lol its a shith0le
Many actually lived there and worked there even before the independence snd opted to stay because France allowed them to cuz it needed cheap labor, the rest also migrated to France because it needed labor, hence why they allowed alot of African immigrants in, including the Algerian, blame France for it not us
Because France like west Germany then Germany called many migrant from country of North Africa sub-saharian country to work in the country like construction industry etc... So a lot stay in thos country and bring their family over
Africa is not a country fam. Its a continent
They seem to be headed in the right direction now, hopefully that continues.
Which direction is correct?
A lot of Western interference in this crisis.
The problem started when Algeria forced in 1988 the recognition of PALESTINE.
Are you sure? I have never understood this conflict totally if you have any credible sources I am interested
@@Wandering_Owl listen to Kay Griggs...
@@user-qg5md3pe9vnot only western but also country like, Iran, and Saudi arabia founded the FIS and GIA
@kg7162 not true at all. In Gnl Nezzar book, he stated that King AbdAllah recommended repression against the FIS. The only country that supported and funded openly the FIS was Morocco!
Africa isn't a country it's a continent
This cycle of violence could most likely happen again in the nearby future. The current military regime is suppressing the people for a long time. Inflation is high basic food like oil bread flour milk and many more is almost not available.
Unemployed people are many because of a lack of an open economy. The country's regime counts only on gas income. The world is getting more and more less dependency from gas and prices will drop with a devastating outcome for the country.
Truly, sleeper cells are starting to appear 😢
we dont want to shake what happened from our collective memory, learning from what happened makes us stronger. This is why we avoided the calamity of the arabe winter ( not spring ). for exemple Algerians know that religious fanatisme driven by foreign interests isn't the answer. You made some quite important shortcuts such as the fact that Boudiaf was a loved figure who could have brought an end to the bloodshed if he wasn't killed. Boumediene is the one who built the basic infrastructure of the country, he was a dictator but did great things for the country, things that provide us with basic commodities and social welfare tell this day. He genuinely acted upon what he thought was the best interest of the country. also The role of western and golf states foreign powers was important in providing support and refuge for the terrorist organisations. The Fis was also quite popular and many of it civilian political leaders in the beginning where intellectuals who sadly ended been caught in the stupid objectifs and ideology of its higher ups ! anyway, our biggest challenges today are negative social practices such as lack of motivation to transform the country, and centuries of hostility toward any form of governance due to colonialism and ottoman rule before that. access to fresh water in metropolitan areas might be our biggest challenge in the futur, the state is building desalination plants but in a context of less abundant energy, would it be enough ?
Conflict between Algeria and Morocco in 1975 wasn’t because of Algeria wanted access to the Atlantic but Morocco marched on western after Spanish withdrawal. The death toll for the dark decade shouldn’t exceed 80k but speculations go from 50k to 200k depends which side is using it for. Algerian government never attempted to carry out statistics. Also, loads of your pics aren’t from Algeria ( like the jihadist groups from Mali and Sahel region, scenes from Palestine the confusion between Hamas movement and Hams, other from Yemen …. Nice try to depict the whole situation but reality was more complex on the ground.
As an Alerian I would like to thank for this effort. Knowing that the Algerian civil war is a very complex topic, a war that took the lives of 250000 Algerian and its roots dates back to the French colonialism. You stated that the GIA had conflicts with AIS (the real FIS descendants) as well with the "The government", and you raised the question by the locals in the Bentlha and Rais massacres asked (which happened in a remote area in the capital Algiers); why didn't the local authorities intervene (Near Bentelha there is a military base)? The short and concise answer for that is that the GIA was an internal military intelligence militia, they created it to massacre the people and intimidate the Algerian population by the bloody decade each time they demanded their rights, Agents from the intelligence used to drink in a Bar (in Hussein-dey) then dress up as Islamists and set up what we used to call "False Military points", where they kill/kidnap whom they want... It's a very unfortunate history the modern Algeria and what I stated in this comment has been the testimony of ex GIA, Intelligence members. The Algerian population today have learned this harsh truth about this decade.
Wdym dress like islamistes ? Most of AIS , GIA Members were shaved mandem they had a standart look , ur brainwashed by ISIS
هذا سمار لي حكاهالك ؟ 😂
That is so freaking scary...
Heard many stories that the army and the government are behind the massacre of civilians...
ماعندكش شاترد غير تمسخير ونجيخ@@zineddine93empire59
You didn’t mention that boudiaf was killed on live television
My grandfather was martyred in the war against France there and participated in his name in Algiers rue martyr Saidoun Mohamed. My great uncle also fought the French army after my grandfather's death. My uncle was sixteen when he joined the revolution. Fight in the capital. He participated in the Battle of Algiers My mother's brother also fought the French. He was in Algiers. He participated in the Battle of Algiers. His name is Gharbi Muhammad He carried out several individual operations against traitors in the east of the capital Al-Harrach area he was twenty years old
What an irony , the very righteous and faithful people who swore to rise algeria out of the crisis , ended up completely destroying it and forever spiral down society into apoliticalness .
it is because they wanted Algeria to raise with them, or to fall without them. The doctrine of the Khawareej.
I'm algerian, the govt shoudl've never left the socialist orientation it had since the independance.
The islamists we fought in the 90's were the very same that the Russians (soviets) fought in Afghanistan. They came back way more radicalized from the war in Afghanistan, the Russians warned the govt, as they were facing the same phenomenon in Chechnya.
These bloody americans did all they could to undermine secular socialist arab leaders in algeria in favour of Islamists.
"Africa is the largest country, and one of the dominant forces in North African politics."
What?
Yeah I heard that too
"Africa's." Yeesh.
Its Africa's Largest country😅
He meant Algeria bro
He is fighting his inner american
It was a horrible bloody period especially in 1997 exactly when I was born . My prents told me that they went to the hospital in another Wilaya at night in a curfew they was just praying to don't die!
My dad lived through the 1990's civil war. it was rough for him and his family, but he survived and everyone else hamdullah. Viva algeria 🇩🇿
I wish my father also left Algeria at that time.
Fis gagnant 🚩
In fact, you did well in your beginning, but the truth that you must know is that in Algeria, the decision maker is not FLN, but rather the generals who control presidents like Khaled Nizar. Arab Belkhair. Tawfiq... Chadli Benjedid was like a marionette in their hands
Also, you did not know that the so-called armed groups were mostly infiltrated by the intelligence services and the country’s generals. They were running them as they liked, and there were close relations between the generals and the leaders of the GIA, and it is known in informed French and Algerian circles that the one who caused the plane accident was the intelligence services. The algerian
In short, the Algerian generals, from the beginning, did not want democratic rule in the country, and unfortunately, Western powers such as the United States and France cooperated with them in this, and the only victim in all of this is the simple people.
Nice to see Borat
18:44 it Wrong that Hamas was in algeria at that time , its none sense though. The Right one was called HIMS (movment of the society of peace , or in arabic حركة مجتمع السلم) and the picture is for one of the great leaders of HAMA in Gaza-Palastain
My father fled Algeria for the US in 1995 after he completed his three years of university because he wasn’t able to become a police officer due to the security issues that was occurring. My mother fled Algeria for the US in 1997 after she had completed a five year engineering degree and she wasn’t able to find a job afterwards. Many of her neighbors and friends during the years of the civil war were murdered for things like not wearing the hijab. The government blamed the GIA for this when it was soldiers of the government dressed in thobes and fake beards who were the ones actually committing these atrocities. The vast majority of the country supported the GIA and their ideology but to make them look bad and extreme, the government carefully planned these executions to try and change the population’s support of the GIA.
This may just be your family's personal experience
But in general, you must know that the main culprit in all of this is the Algerian intelligence, led by the country’s bloody generals, who exploited the GIA to achieve their own personal interests.
This is known in Algeria to all people
Oh how nice of you spreading dangerous accusations about the military while your parents left the country and you probably was born in the US... to use say such grave accusations you need proof or being yourself a witness. No party at that time was innocent but the Fanatics of the GIA funded by your new home ;) and other foreign powers were the worst !
completely false.
@@pythonwolf3817 what about that is false ?
@@773made_hakim second half
France is currently feeling repercussions from their African policies
No, they are feeling the consequences of trying to be nice to people that respect nothing but violence.
ha biggest joker of they year award goes to you@@gusjeazer
@@texenna wanna hear a joke? non-western functional country
@@texennawhy?
@@gusjeazerlike what!? So their era of colonialism is filled with sugar and candy?😂
Every decade in Algeria is a dark decade.
Long live Algeria 🇩🇿
Let it sink, France has been at war for 30 years trying to saveguard its colonies. Right after North Africa was liberated from the Germans and Italians, the French gendarmerie butchered 40 000 Algerians in Sétif, Guelma and Kherrata in 1945. The French also fought in Indochina, and then Algeria up until 1962. Then they have the gall to tell other nations how to behave today.
Watching France sink under immigration makes my heart rejoice, and by their own ex-colonial subjects that is.
Ok what? France let’s in immigrants out of their own kindness. And your hatred is so great you hope that those immigrants that France took in will hurt france. That doesn’t make sense. If you immigrate to a country wouldn’t you take up their culture and values.
oh boy, came in early to see what this will be about. From an Algerian. -_-
edit:
after watching, missing a few things.
Arabisation of Algeria which came into play with the Egyptian scholars and such that came to Algeria to teach Arabic and possibly influenced a bit.
A few coups came to be such as the failed coup by Tahar Zbiri during boumiedienne reign which was close to success if it were not for the Soviet jets that were sent to Boumidienne.
How much of that did you experience if I may ask?
Thanks for adding some further nuance! Would love to hear any stories if you'd be comfortable enough to share/have any
@@Crescent_2001I wasn't born in that time till later. So can't say much about it. other than what some of my family may say or such.
The" arabisation" was a natural process to gain back the arabic / muslim identity since the population was a predominantly Arab / Muslim and was almost wiped out due to the French colonial policy to distort/ kill the identity for a century and half to consolidate the colonial existence in Algeria.
predmoinantly non arab due to even the fact that the revolution of 59 was sparked in Chaoui region not a bedouin region. Arabisation was a globalist and reactionary process because unfortunately many of the elites still use french.@@hakoks7645
5:38 that was benkhada the president of temporary government not chadli
Africa is the largest country?
Islamism, islamist, islamist. These words are what the enemies of Islam have been using last 30 years instead of Muslim and Islam.
This whole video's purpose is to link islam with terrorism
I'm algerian, the govt shoudl've never left the socialist orientation it had since the independance.
The islamists we fought in the 90's were the very same that the Russians (soviets) fought in Afghanistan. They came back way more radicalized from the war in Afghanistan, the Russians warned the govt, as they were facing the same phenomenon in Chechnya.
These bloody americans did all they could to undermine secular socialist arab leaders in algeria in favour of Islamists wahhabist scums.
Khawarij
@@Randomsyrianfella cross worshipper?
@@AliAlo-pc5ud actually that is kinda accurate lol. By fighting Muslims and no one else they’re basically serving the cross worshippers
The research is a little lacking and some events are not in chronological order
For real this video is joke
no conflict history is that simple, there is more sides of the story, one can not ignore the influence of other countries at that time, like Saudi rabia, the US trying toi fight comunism etc
when did algeria almost went to war with Morroco for access to the Atlantic? I'm algerian and this video is bs.
hindus and jews in the comments sperging
There is a reason Jews and Hindus are constantly making love to each other. Both feel insignificant when compared to Islam. 🤣🤣
Why is my uncle the only one who had funny interaction with them they feel like they're straight out of a comedy show
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My uncle was a soldier during this war 30k fled my county and hid it’s now abandoned
and the remaining 45M? they don't count? lol
@@starsock2986 i meant county
@@texenna by we have Wilayas here :(
@@starsock2986same thing I said county because most people here are not Algerian
@@texenna usually they go with state, province, county is not commonly used to replace Wilaya, anyways, what was your wilaya?
The masscares was the work of algerian intalgence lead by ahmad towfeq and genral khaled nazaar
by islamist terorist you mean
@@dtttmr964 working for officers in the algerian intelgence you knew the army did not enterfear don't thing there some thing wrong her
Make a video about China invading Tibet in 1949. 1949-1959 when 1,6 million Tibetans were massacred.That was about 1 in every 6 Tibetans.Also when at a protest about 80k tibetans were killed. Tibetans and uyghurs still have hard these days so making a video about it would be interesting.
Stop lying, tibetans were freed from a slave society. Thank god for them they are part of China now.