Simple Test for Dementia that You or A Loved One Can Do- Alzheimer's?
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- Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
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Good gravy! I almost came down with dementia waiting for you guys to get to the point!
It’s how they roll….. lol
Lmfao I KNOW RIGHT
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😆 hilarious and true. But very informative!!
My mom passed away from dementia last year and her doctor did the clock test with her and asked her to remember 3 things. She could not even begin to draw the clock and could only remember 2 things. Obviously I took her to a neurologist so I knew she was having problems already by this point and suspected dementia. This is a horrid disease and I would not wish it upon my worst enemy. One blessing is in the end she had no idea she was dying. By that point she was completely gone. I will never forget looking into her face and seeing those sad eyes. Love you mom and I will see you one day again.
Rita, sorry to hear of this situation with your mother's passing. This is a terrible disease. Sincerely Brad
Aww I'm sorry.❤
Sorry to read this, my Mum now has it, has issues with a lot of things she used to find easy. It's really hard and I'm having a test today to see if I'm ok as I too have memory issues..
Sorry to hear dear I lost my mom due to covid and I am her only son, but I lost her even before Covid as she was suffering from severe depression and lost all her interest. We tried hard but then she suffered with Covid and we just lost her!”
74 here and going strong.........do medium Sudoko in 3.5 minutes.........lots of mental games......coping the entire Bible in long hand (about 1/3 way completed)............interact with young people as often as I can. Praying it stays that way.🙂
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So awesome! Dr. David Jeremiah had recommended copying the Bible.... thank you for the reminder!
PRAISE the Lord Sister..Im 72 just getting over Long Haulers coved and ready to start over again in a New buisness...I Give God All the PRAISE...
74 is really young. Not wanting to scare you but my mother was still doing computer work at 74, and she showed the first sign of dementia at 86. Only problem is she got p off when I started to suspect. That's the biggest problem of dementia patient. Had she believed me and started treatment early, it could have made a difference.
That's fantastic. I'm also a big Sudoku player. I had a brain injury years ago so I'm always working on my brain. The best thing I've done is learned how to write with my left hand. Especially since I have severe arthritis lots of times I can't use my right hand. But honestly it translates to so many different things. It is very hard to do. I did it for hours every day. But it's worth it!
70 here. With everything that’s happening in the world now, I was beginning to be concerned because I was feeling overwhelmed. I passed your test but I know this was a pretty simple example. I found the best defense for becoming overwhelmed was to not watch any form of news in the morning or for at least an hour or two before bedtime. That helps me. Some days I don’t watch any news except for weather related news. I don’t have my head in the sand but I’m not going to be totally absorbed in it either.
I totally agree with you #Vicki Bruck...and I'm only 61, but still trying to live as mentally and physically active as I always had to. Best of everything to you.
Best decision ever! Its mostly propaganda and lies anyway.
Two comments...first I am Canadian and find most US news channels are extremely poor quality, often mired in the "shock jock" genre. Try CBC News, which strikes me as more balanced and informative. Second, there is a wonderful Tapestry (CBC radio program) episode advising that you just focus on doing what you CAN, not feeling your have to solve world peace, world hunger and climate change by yourself. So since the Putin invasion of Ukraine was upsetting me badly, rather than feel helpless I donated money to charities helping displaced Ukranians. Maybe I can't stop this terrible war, but I can help its victims.
Totally agree! I never read papers or watch world news and stay away from doctors as much as I can
Agreed!
Stress, menopause, lack of sleep and many other conditions can cause memory loss so don’t anyone panic about having dementia.
Menopause does cause memory problems.
I am in pre menopause fog and I’m a teacher with 2 1/2 weeks left of school
You'd agree that anyone who passes that rigorous test is an extremely stable genius. Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV
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Just tested last week and found out I don't have dementia it's just mini seizures. So incredibly relieved. I left the Navy with a TBI as one of my parting gifts and after caregiving for my mom, seriously was terrified I had dementia.
> it's just mini seizures
Yeah; disorientation, speech issues, etc. -- all common symptoms of seizures.
My mother's clock test result looked like a kidney bean and all the numbers were written on the inside of the outer curve, she was unable to make clock "hands" designate the specified time. We knew of course, but how far down she had spiraled was a bit of a shock. She was also infuriated at being taken to see a doctor, but then became docile & childlike when asked to draw the clock and kept saying "how'm I doing?" like a very young child seeking approval from teacher or parent.
It's a heartbreaking illness. Soul stealing for the patient. But they're clueless. 😞
Soul stealing would not be a good term. That stays intact.
@@stormyweather8798 Maybe, but who takes possession first?
Becoming impaired to the point of being clueless as you put it, is really a God-send for the patient, though not so much for the care-giver.
How old is she - when did signs begin ?
I'm 74 with lots of memory problems but 'passed this' ...
Please ensure that your loved ones get their hearing tested. Hearing loss is the number one modifiable factor in slowing the progression of dementia. When people can’t hear clearly, their brains have to reorganize dramatically to work at understanding speech. The frontal lobe is highly activated, as they have to think and problem solve every time they hear speech. This is exhausting and leads people to feeling isolated, left out, self conscious, confused, annoyed, depressed. Studies on the brain have shown that even in adults with formerly undiagnosed Age Related Hearing Loss, they were already compromised when performing cognitive function tests. The good news is after wearing properly fit hearing aids for six months, their brain activity became more like that of a person with normal hearing, and their cognitive function testing improved across the board.
Think about it, you ask someone with hearing loss to repeat words and to them is like you say “re.ea. The.. word..: ..ou.., a..le, ..air. Wha. .re the word.?”
Hearing tests should be performed on anyone suspected of cognitive decline. I helped a man who was terrified he was losing his brain function because he said “people speak to me and nothing makes sense. They are garbled and I can’t understand them. It’s because my sister had dementia, and I’m getting it too. “ turns out he had moderately severe but very treatable hearing loss. Once he started wearing hearing aids, he was so relieved to be able to understand his family and friends. His ability to process speech sounds was totally normal. With untreated hearing loss, the brain can eventually decline in the ability to process speech accurately.
Go get some hearing aids if you need them!!
Thanks for the good advice.
Bob
Can't afford hearing aids.
@@joycelint6652 you can get some very affordable and quality hearing aids at Sam’s Club, for about $1300 for a pair. They aren’t the best, but they are better than amplifiers, and certainly better than untreated hearing loss. There is currently a 12 month interest free financing option, until April 29th 2022. The test is free and you can listen to the product with your fitting as part of the free test. 90 day trial, 100% money back guarantee. I hope you can find a pair that fits your budget and your needs!
That is very important info! I’ll tell my stepmom, as she doesn’t wear her hearing aids often enough.
A ST informed me of this. I was very surprised, but it makes sense.
Pretty soon someone is going to have to come up with a replacement for the clock question. As we rely more and more on our phone and other digital clocks to tell time, we fall out of practice using an analog clock. I’m 50 and grew up using the traditional clock, and still can, tho 95% of the time I use my phone. I’m pretty sure I’ll be able to recreate a clock at 70, but that may not be a fair question for the next generation!
Living in FL retirement community - Dementia is a sad situation to witness. Used to joke about it as a young kid, but seeing people deteriorate cognitively definitely isn't a joking matter - and happens to anyone, regardless of health habits or intellect.
I have to call bullshit on health and mental habits not being a factor. They are factors.
Also what drugs you are on. Anti statins have been linked to dementia and Alzheimer's .
Can happen in your 30s to 40s, too, not just in old age. Very frightening prospect. 1 in 8 elderly is a high percentage, more than 10%.
@@theatlantean39 Health and mental habits are minor factors in some forms of dementia. In Alzheimer's they may not even be a factor. The Beta Amyloid levels start to rise years, if not decades, in advance of noticeable disease. We need real remedies for this very tragic condition.
@@theatlantean39 right. pharma drugs, vaccines and injections linked.
This is the EXACT test used every annual exam after age 65 at my doctor’s office. It’s part of what they call a Wellness Exam. It’s the part of the exam I least look forward to! So far, so good. But, turn your head and cough is easier.
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This test is simple compared to the one they gave me!
Can’t draw a decent clock. Doubt I ever could😂
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@Russ Richards 🤣🤣 Yes, my doc must be old fashioned. Still does all the stuff you remember from times past.
Thank you SO MUCH! I needed this for my mom. I love you guys!
My Dad passed away in January from complications from dementia. It’s an awful, awful disease.
I am sorry for your loss. My dad passed away at 66 and My step mother 👩 was 62 when she passed from it. That was 2005. Was awful seeing her like that.
Sorry. 🙏. Was he vegan? This doctor is blaming vegan diet.
My dad passed last november..92 years oldand he couldnt remember very much...DID THE TEST and passed ..WHEW one good thing..because in menopause ........YOU FORGET !!!!!!!!!!!!
@@Portia620 whole food plant based diets heal, which is vegan. But eating vegan processed foods, soda, & alcohol could be vegan too, but that will cause disease just like dairy and dead animal insides.
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A severe B12 deficiency/malabsorption can lead to a dementia.
Seniors can also get these symptoms from Hypothyroidism, or a side effects of prescription drugs, a B12 deficiency or malabsorption of B12, a poor diet low in nutrients and inflammatory, having insulin resistance and or uncontrolled Diabetes (T2D), from statin drugs side effect (one of many), hearing loss, brain trauma, stroke, coma, or neurological conditions like LBD… to list a few.
You two hace been so helpful to me and I still appreciate your presence
I can pass all the tests on their paper. But in real life it takes me 4 hours to pay my 5 bills because I now have to go through things over and over to be sure I am doing it right. I get lost in the steps and have to start over many times. Not only with bills but just simple household repairs. I tell the doctors but all they do is give me the same test that I can pass and has nothing to do with my symptoms. It is handy with movies though as I always forget what they where about and I can watch it like the first time over and over. Nothing is really boring or a re-run anymore.
Save your time and start at 1:55
Phew, I passed at 72 and hope to pass at 82, thank you. Love what you guys do, keep up the good work.
That's how I felt, and I'm 48. Phew!
Look what I wrote above.
How are you now sir?
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Well... it was only 3 simple words...although I had to repeat 5 times so I wouldn't forget! LOL
Keep on teaching. Blessings to u n Family.
I have always had trouble with theses 3 test because I have ADHD. I have poor memory from oral instructions and must always write things down. I also have always trouble understanding the question so my answers could look like dementia. It depends on how the question is structured. EX: I have always had a problem with the Drivers written test. I have a perfect record no tickets, no accidents(unlike several family members) and have been driving for over 50 years. This is something I have struggled with all my life. I never tested well in school, struggled to learn but have learned coping/ adapting methods. All this to say this is NOT necessarily an accurate test for senility, dementia or Alzheimers. However, if you are a senior and notice that you are struggling with memory issues go talk to a doctor, one that deals with senior issues, NOT your GP!
Well said, Cathy. Having dyslexia (which is often a co-morbidity of ADHD) will also make these tests more difficult unless the patient writes things down. I know this test well. I worked in Long Term Care for 16 years. It’s called the “ Montreal Mini-Mental Status” Or Montreal Cognitive Assessment Test. It’s a good indicator, but not the be-all, end-all. Obviously, if you are 75 and can’t draw an analog clock face, that MAY indicate cognitive decline.
Same here I’m ADHD short term memory and especially working memory challenges
One major help I’ve found is to stretch upon standing. It really helps me.
Just want to say: "Hi Liz". You're doing a great job!
I wanted to see this because my 88-year-old mother was just told she has "dementia." From what I can tell from having been around my mother (she lives on the opposite side of the continent from me), Mom's short-term memory isn't very good, but her long-term memory is intact. Fortunately, she's already set up her house so all her ovens are on timers, and she has a habit of always standing by the stove when she uses it, so I don't have to worry about her burning down her house.
Thank you for that information on your mother. I'm 82 years old and have been experiencing cognitive issues for quite some time. Recently they've worsened. My father had dementia and my mother had Alzheimers. I'm afraid I'm becoming like my mother. She became mean and combative. I don't want to be like that. I told my kids to take me to Oregon when I get that bad.
Have a plan and folks to check on her. It would be better to gav ed her get help now before it gets too bad. Prayers
@@mountainlion93 olanzapine can help wonders along with reduction of stress. That said if you can mak ed changes now it is easier for everyone as it is a stressful situation. Prayers
@@mountainlion93 make sure you drink a lot more water! dehydration can mimic dementia! also, declutter! not facing your stuff and memories can fog up the brain, too.
i have it in myvfamily, and i avoid doing what they did...
@@mountainlion93 hi! I'm in Oregon and I am just curious about why you want your family to take you to Oregon if you are diagnosed with dementia. Is there something special for dementia patients here?
I thank you for this!!! I’m at an age that this concerns me and it has ran in my family on both sides. I always read what I come across on this subject but I had never seen this before. I have been concerned about myself and having the start of this. I feel much better about where I am in reguard to myself after seeing your post. Thank you. You have had many topics that have been helpful for me.
There is a lot of research showing that blood sugar levels being too high can negatively affect the brain. So cutting out processed food as much as possible, losing some excess weight (too much body fat affects insulin) and walking daily can help stave it off.
A book recently came out which you might find comforting: The First Survivors of Alzheimer's: How Patients Recovered Life and Hope in Their Own Words by Dale Bredesen
Dear Bob & Brad, great to see you. Thank you for all your super info. Here's a memory tip that will help you remember names. Your going to repeat their names back to them, as they introduce themselves. Hello my name is Debbie. You're responce, Hello Debbie, a pleasure meeting you, I'm Bob or Brad! Then I would respond, it's nice to me you as well, Bob or Brad. Practice makes perfect!
I watched Mom take one of these tests (administered by a Neurologist) and it was grueling. There is nothing you can do and you both feel helpless. In her younger years, she repeatedly said (about Dementia/Alzheimers), "... if I ever get like that, just put me in a home and forget about me". Well, that's easier said than done. Dementia is a progressive, and sometimes elusive, disease. It operates sort of like the tide - back and forth, moving closer and then farther away. As a 24/7/365 caregiver, your mind has to compensate for their loss. I'll spare you the ugly realities, just know that it's an awful, equal opportunity disease that discriminates against no one.
Music can be helpful especially music from her past. It seems to increase patient's alertness.
i am so sorry ...sounds like ur life would be very hard. i wish i could say something helpful but there really isn't anything. All i can do is send u heartfelt best wishes. may something or someone enter ur life that helps makes things easier.
Guys, I'm glad that you mentioned time as quarter till as well as 3:45 because many elder people learned to tell time before the digital age.
such a good point.
I'm only 42, worked with a kid maybe 10 years ago who had no idea what I meant when I said "quarter after." Damn, am I elderly now?
Hi B&B thanks for your video
Thanks for your help.
Thank u Bob and Brad 🥰
Thank you for sharing!
You guys should get a Neubie.My PT just used it on me for chronic pain, but it also addressed and cured my severe anxiety and mild depression.More studies need to be done on this.
Starts at 2:59
THANK you!
Wrong. You missed the 3 objects.
As always, super relevant topic in my life. I have a 78yo old aunt who I believe has advanced dementia due to it running in the family AND very significant cognitive deficits.
Read Dr Mary Newport's book about her husband
This isn’t normal singing, eat brain food with absolutely ZERO processed foods, no corn, soy, wheat, dairy.
My husband has mild cognitive impairment and he always forgets the 3 words but he can draw a clock. They also tell him a story each time and ask him questions about the story. He's gotten so he has the story memorized and tells it to them before they tell him. LOL. But daily he forgets where he put things, what day it is, what our plans are, repeats things over and over, asks me things over and over, loses things, and is losing interest in doing things and going places.
I used to care for a woman with dementia, and even when it was getting to mid-late stages, she still had all the "test" questions the doctors would ask her memorized. I'm so sorry for what you are going through. Make sure you have a good support system early on as it will make all the difference.
That's a bummer
My dad does all those (he's pretty good on the counting down from 100 by 7s) and has been diagnosed with Alz. Take care of yourself as the primary caregiver. Try to sort out if he's worried, that seems to increase those questions about date. If you can, streamline your home so clutter doesn't hide important items like keys, eyeglasses, hearing aides, etc. There's some great resources on youtube. Here's a starting place, even if he doesn't progress there are great tips for coping.
m.ruclips.net/p/PLknqu8u-ODFXHK-RvPaDW29OygObp1cKw
Many medications affect cognitive skills. Statins, xanax, depacote are just a few.
It would appear your husband and I are in the same ballpark. My wife died in 2016. I'm 82 yeaes old and I live alone. I lose my wallet, car keys, credit card, reading glasses and sunglasses constantly. recently I took my coffee to the microwave to rewarm, and then I came back to my office. I was playing card games when I realized I'd forgotten my coffee in the microwave. I went to the kitchen to get it and when I opened the microwave it was gone. I looked all over the place and finally came back to my office. The coffee was on my desk.
Thanks for sharing this with us. 👍
Thanks for watching!
Well, thankfully I managed to pass the test and thankfully I managed to pass the test
I did the same thing but corrected the clock right away before he said anything! Interesting!
Love these two guys! 👍
Hahaha, the intro music is hilarious. That's brilliant. Thank you for the giggle.
On the second test, it is a good thing he knew about an analog clock. Many kid haven't seen an analog clock.
Great video .
Beautiful gentlemen.
thank you so much
I did not remember the three objects after the clock! I work with Dementia patients.
You can work out a mnemonic for yourself in the future, like this: There's a *chair* in a *house* with an *apple* on it. It also helps immensely to say the three objects out loud once or, even better, twice.
The difficulty with the chair, house, apple memory test is that you made him draw a clock with a certain time showing, before repeating the words. This is what would probably throw me, as your concentration goes onto drawing the clock, making it a lot more difficult to recall them later on!
The distraction is the intent. Its not just the time delay athough actual testing would do both.
Do you need to get something from the kitchen, you head for the kitchen, saw a toy on the floor, picked it up and put it away, and then go into the kitchen, and stand there momentarily trying to remember what was it you want to get.
That's not dementia.
You were distracted and that affected your short term memory.
I’m full time caretaker for my 89 year old mother with dementia so she doesn’t go to a nursing home during Covid. People with dementia have no concept of danger. She turns the oven on and forgets about it. She wants to walk to the store across 4 lanes of busy rush hour traffic. Totally spaces out that it is 5 pm. Sits in front of tv and forgets to let the dog in when it’s -20 degrees. Constantly going through drawers and making messes (this behavior is called “rummaging”). She has a sweet tooth and wants to eat nothing but cookies and ice cream. She adds a quarter cup of sugar to pre sweetened cereal. She also goes off on people for stupid reasons. These are more signs. If she wasn’t heavily medicated on anti anxiety drugs, I wouldn’t be able to take care of her without being screamed at.
I identify with every one of those symptoms you described; I too took care of my 89 yr old mom who also exhibited every one of these behaviors. It was like having a familiar stranger living in your house. I first lost the person who used to be the mother I’d always known, then I lost that familiar stranger in the flesh. Insidious disease that takes its toll on the caregivers. Sending you strength❤️
My father is having some symptoms of dementia for the last one year, he is 77, he becomes very suspicious of people around some times and forgets things and blames ppl for stealing his stuff, aweful diseaae
It’s been an adventure! Things disappear and I have to go on a treasure hunt. My brother once found his licenses and social security cards in the recycling. I tear the house apart but can’t find where she puts things. Then a few months later, there they are again! She told me one time that when she dies, we should look under the rugs and in her coat pockets. She may have hidden some money there. She took $2,500 cash out of her account and we can’t find it (before I took over her finances).
@@cindymccafferty8346 I am in despair, is there no treatment to delay the progression, I don't want to lose him to this disease
@@cindymccafferty8346 Oh my, I played that “hide the money” game as well; the only problem was, she’d change the pockets she hid it in. Scavenger hunt was what my adventures were on a daily basis!
The tests were fairly easy, but I wish that they could have gotten straight to them without advertising a mattress or whatever that thing was.
The distractions are a very important part of the test, you know. The drawing of the clock should then absorb you enough to see if you forget the three objects in the first task, so in that way this test resembles everyday life a little better - like, you get disturbed by the phone, the dog, your spouse, your neighbor, and forget about where you put your glasses, or that you put a pot on the stove, or that you have an appointment you should prepare for. What were the things you were to bring with you? Are complicated, long sentences difficult for you to read? If they weren't before, but annoy you now, then that's another sign... and do you still remember the three random objects?
@@DNA350ppm : pretty funny! 😆. I was just going to say “double tap” on the right side fixes the ad problem.
Same. Just get to it. Sometimes I think they draw it out on purpose for RUclips money.
They deserve financial compensation for their work. Do you work for free???
@@tinam761 1) Some of us pay for RUclips Premium. Supposed to be ad free. They sneak in these in-video ads as a way to backdoor that.
2) The only reason these guys have their channel is because of the work they do. They are being paid plenty.
Your the best!
I loved your videos. I leaned a lot from the knee video. 🙋❤🙏❤
Hi Bob & Brad; Do you know where the studies are on the efficacy of the 3 word recall test? There are 3 little articles I've found, but not any decent studies to justify giving that test to the elderly. I know it's a standard test and I'm betting someone came up with it decades ago, and it has just been passed on down without any clear research. I'm writing a graphic memoir of how I used my health and fitness knowledge to stop my mother with mild dementia from forgetting me, and I've been flummoxed on the actual studies for the 3 word recall test and the cube drawing test. How many people can go grocery shopping with 3 items in mind, and actually remember all three? My college freshmen cannot remember the 3 questions I ask them when they go around the room. Let me know if you can point me in the right direction. Thanks
True, dude you got me twice on the chair, door, apple question...
You guys provide so much wonderful content, sadly this video sound quality is very difficult to hear.
Thank you.🤪💋💞
House was all I was able to remember. Loud ringing in my head due to hearing loss. 59 disabled already and been seeing a difference in myself.
I've left the stove on a couple of times, but I could pass your test without any problem.
Several years ago my father-in-law was, in my opinion, showing signs of dementia. I did the clock test and I still have the page from his test. He started with 0 at the 12 o’clock position. The numbers were not in any close position to correct. He could not put the hand on the face for 3:00.
I don't know what quarter to 4 looks like now and I'm 36.. The mistake was very relatable! do make sure the person doesn't have dyslexia before over-analyzing them getting the time wrong
Ball, Table, Chair...Those are the objects I was given to remember for my test, 10 years ago. Funny I remember that but when I left my house and made it back home I would walk right passed my yard and not be aware until I got down the street a few more houses. This didn't happen once, it was every time. Just walked right on by my own house. This test isn't a good indicator of anything. When you stand up to pee but forget why you stood up before you take a step and just sit back down after a few minutes of bewildered confusion but can pass this test, not really anything there in my opinion. Sorry kids. Love you guys by the way, keep up the great work.
I'm 68, passed the test but even easier would be to picture aple on the chair in the house. Early detection of dementia helps to slow or even reduce the illness. Physical exercise is important.
Swing your arms when walking, sort a bad posture be mindful when walking.
It is better to make the picture weird... like have the house on top of the apple. Also I don't know if visualization is considered cheating for this test
Thnx i will try with everyone i know🙂
Very helpful, my Dad was also asked what is the month and day, what is the year, spell WORLD backwards, who is the President and Vice President.
Cognitive decline is something to be taken very seriously. Thankyou for what you do, as it can be a very challenging job...
Best. Intro. Ever!
Use clip on mics, ot helps a lot with the sound clarity.
Might want to put sound absorbers too on some places on the wall, this will make the sound perfect
Keep on point
I’m 37 with PPMS. I haven’t been able to write for 3-4 years because of tremors (all four limbs). Wish there were other tests beyond writing, peg holes, tap-tap/matching. That more motor. But I can describe stuff, like how to draw a clock ⏰ For the win, my 11yo and 8yo daughters know analog clocks :) we have them all over our house. And their watches are analog.
I remembered but I have no idea what you guys were talking about. I tried paying attention but I almost forgot Apple! So I chose to concentrate on remembering the three.
I need to test myself ....thanks
Been caring for older ppl for awhile. I can tell when the dementia is starting even if it's not in their diagnosis. Very sad when neither relatives nor doctors have noticed, bc they haven't spent enough time with the patient. It's a very distinct pattern of behaviours. Not just forgetfulness or misplacing things, which could happen to anyone...
Hi Cynthia, if at all possible could u dm me? My Dad was diagnosed with vascular dementia, I would really really appreciate it if u could dm me? I also understand if u can not. Love n light n thanks 🙏⭐🦋♥️
@@noracleary1581
I'd like to help but
Idk how to DM you.
Could you elaborate on any of these patterns if you can, just 3 or so reliable markers that help you discern so maybe the family can be advised to get the person tested and start treatments earlier. My father submitted to tests late but even so, he has been very aided by finally allowing and taking the drugs. We see a marked improvement in him overall.
Where I live (not USA) I had have a medical physical, & take a memory/cognitive test in order to renew my drivers license (age 75j Having to take the test in itself added a level of stress. Thankfully I passed. I panicked a bit when I had to draw a chair.
Lol. The first 3 words are what they give a lot. I used to work for APS & saw the NP’s give the Mini Mental Status exam.
My great grandma passed away from this in 2005 at 87 and now my grandma (both on my mom's side) at 82 is in the early stages
It is standard of care (unless very recently changed) for PCP to perform mini mental exams annually on persons over 65 (most systems flag Medicare patients as needing annual testing). Recently took my brother (has dementia) and the nurse aide wrote the quarter hour numbers on the clock. This is so wrong.
When my mom was tested with the clock all numbers were on the right side of the clock. Of course, she failed in lots of areas. I (RN) was taught to let them complete everything on the clock.
I know they tested my dad at the same time, his clock had appropriate Roman numbers, correct time, clock had a wind up knob (old pocket watches) and his watch hands had elaborate arrow hands.
I really love watching but I always struggle to hear! Mic seems so far away.
Keep up the great work though 🙂🙂😘
Difficult to hear you
I thought they sounded a bit muffled/unclear. Mostly, the volume was okay. Weird.
Not as helpful as I would have liked, quite honestly. But it hits close to home. I’ve had some serious brain trauma over the past 2 1/2 years that left me with Epilepsy. I also have some dead tissue in my Left Temporal Lobe, which is the seat of memory and cognition amongst other things. Much of my symptoms are very similar to early Dementia. My Neurologist, who specializes in Epilepsy and other seizure disorders, assured me that everything I’m experiencing is related to my Epilepsy as well as the damage to my brain. You can’t imagine how relieved I was to hear that! It was scary!!🙏👍😊
I made the same Clock mistake as Brad. But I remembered the three objects.
So, great info guys... but the 6.34 mins I have to wait on your intro is very distracting. You have helped me in many ways with your knowledge and I thank you very much. I also love your sense of humor.
Doing these little tests are good to establish your baseline when you are well. Here's another one: Try seeing how far you can count down from 100 by subtracting 7 (100, 93, 86, 79, 72, etc.). Everyone has their strengths and little tools they've learned over the years to overcome weaknesses. Be honest with yourself and your healthcare providers. Excercise, keeping a healthy weight and a positive attitude will go far. The less health conditions you have to cope with the easier it will be to manage.
Count down by 7 ? I don't think so ! Math was never my thing. I'm 57 but I don't think I could have counted down by 7 at any age.
I couldn’t do that at any age.
I immediately forgot all 3 items when he asked lol
Loved the jingle 😅
My Mom is 81, and feels she's got the beginning of dementia. This was the first year she forgot my birthday! She's having problems with calendars, she said. I told her she should bring it up to her Dr!
in 2017 I took this test when I went to a psychologist. She did not tell me what we were doing. Just like here she continued talking for a few minutes and then asked for the items. I only got 2 out of 3. I remembered this example but I knew what was coming this time. I think it might be a better indicator if it is not explained first.
I only got 2 after a few minutes and I knew why they were asking and that i'd have to remember the items.. I'm under 40
What happened after only getting 2 of 3? Has anything changed for you after 2 years?
My mom is in the same boat got everything except for 1 word
Saying one wouldn’t want to become addicted, isn’t really something that those of us taking the script opioids would ever fear, but~ if you add in the “fatal destruction to their organs” factor, it might be more of a deterrent. (It’s the only factor that keeps me in check)
My Aunt was drawing the clock upside down. The doctor looked confused. I told him, she's drawing the clock for you to view, not for herself. He had her start over.
What a dumb doctor!lol
He remembered the 3 objects the same way I did: a chair on the ground, house on top of it, and an apple on the roof.
BTW, I just taught my 1st grader how to draw a clock, and her first attempt, all the numbers were bunched up on the right half.
When she got to 12, she gasped and looked very worried. Then we learned about division.
Dyslexia can also cause children to draw a clock in that way.
300 mgs of benfotiamine daily. In a study I read about, patients improved an average of 15% over 3 months, and those were people already institutionalized. All of the patients improved. After I read that, I started taking it myself.
what about for people with moderate to severe Dementia, will it take a long time to work ?
I’ll have to check that out. I’m caring for my mom who has been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s.
It is essentially vitamin B1.
I nailed them all! 🥳
Whew! All good today
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I'm 26 and did not remember any of the 3 items when asked the second time
28, but I’m starting this young. Diagnosed Bipolar OCD and on Lamotrigine and Clonazepam (trying to wean into Gabapentin but new drugs terrify me despite knowing Benzos are dangerous) and losing my cognitive abilities terrifies me. Especially the brain fog immediately after my meds.
Luckily my monthly memory and recollection tests have never come back less than above average whether medicated or not. I still hate the dependency but the intrusive thoughts unmedicated are nightmarish…
I know now that benzos are a risk factor for dementia, but in the 70's and 80's doctors handed them out like sweets for just about any complaint. I was hooked on them throughout the 80's. If only we had been warned about them years ago.
Be very careful with clonazopam , My mother was on it and it actually aggravated the Demetria
I’ve also heard to watch out for letting the arms just hang when walking without any swing motion.
The doctor have my mom a test like this. But he would say what was the 2nd item I gave you. He gave quarter dime nickel.. she couldn’t remember, he would also say I gave you a quarter and a nickel what other coin did I give you. He gave her several other test but at this time I don’t remember what they were. It’s been a couple of years ago.
SAFETY: my dad is fine, mostly, if his blood pressure is about normal, but confused as it goes above 150/90.
The stove burners on instead of the whole house gas heater that he was able to light a year earlier was a clue something was wrong… there were other situations as well, several related to heath.
1. It's when you go somewhere and don't remember how get back home. Forgetting names of those close to you and thier relation to you,, It's not regular forgetfulness like forgot where loss keys. My uncle has it
this seems like a SNL skit
I couldn’t remember the three items after drawing the clock. My mama has dementia and I’ve noticed I can’t recall the names of everyday items. I have to pause a few seconds, picture the item in my head, then the word comes to me. Is this something to be concerned with? Thank you 🙏🏻