Tests for Dementia: SLUMS Assessment
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00:00 Intro
00:12 Cognitive Test Information
01:42 SLUMS Assessment
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When she asked "what state are we in" ? I replied "terrible".
I replied denial
I am nearly 76 years old and I passed the test. 100% very happy, I am doing well, no dementia
Was I wrong when I answered the question about the 5 items as "person, woman, man, camera, TV"?
I got all the answers right after drinking six glasses of neat malt Scotch whisky - treble measures, per UK standard.. I'm age 73. So I did okay, and to celebrate, I'm going to have another whisky! Cheers!
Our cousin 70 and my Aunty 80 have just been diagnosed with Alzheimer's and aterial dementia double wammy 😢
This reply is so rare ,honest, and hilarious. You made me laugh in discussion about such a horrible disease!
Alcohol dependence is no joke
Additionally, @kevinwallace3415, the test doesn't address the level of a person's daily functions, if they can care for themself, if they are safe to be alone, and so forth.
@@labab1048 @kevinwallace3415 is making an excellent point on the off-topic test. He could be making a joke because the test has nothing to do with daily functions, if he is indulging it could be a one-time thing, and so forth. Additionally, there is insufficient information to make a diagnosis which is actually illegal unless a person has the credentials. I say bravo to @kevinwallace3415 point which is well made.
I had a cerebral hemorrhage a few years ago. They gave me a cognitive test and ask me to draw the clock showing 4:50
I drew it but numbered it: 1 10 11 100 101 110 111 and so on. The nurse said I got it wrong. I told her I numbered it in binary. She didn't know what I was talking about. I said "You don't know binary? Oh my that is indeed sad." She was not amused. At that time the neurosurgeon came in and he did know binary. He told the nurse I was right. She was still not amused but I sure as hell was.
😂😂😂 that's great!!!
Binary is not a great challenge. Try base 3; it's more of a difficulty for me. I once wrote a series of numbers on a whiteboard with equal signs between using every base from 2 to 9, but not in order. Annoyed the hell out of some people, but one bloke took a good look and said that's 42. And called me mad.
Yippee! I don't have dementia! Err what was the test about again?
Clocks are all digital now. Don't think the next generation of seniors will be able to draw clock hands.
I'm 71 but haven't seen a round clock face in decades.
I would keep repeating the first 5 items until I was cleared and the interview was over. My other answers would be I don't know.😊
I got all 87 questions right.
Stressed people will not do well on these tests
or extremely tired people
I'm 26 and seem to be showing multiple signs of dementia, much to my dismay. Looking back about a year ago, I had constant deja vu and my previous neuro wrote it off as sleep deprivation from sleep apnea, didn't consider dementia at all because of clear mri's and ct's. I did turn out to have sleep apnea, but still have had deja vu up until this day.
I just took the test twice, got a 16 the first time, and a 20 the second. I'm around 11-12th grade education, never graduated.
Now my new neuro(old one retired), isn't taking me seriously just because of a clear mri scan, so trying to advocate for myself and push for further testing. I keep being passed off as a hypochondriac but there's obviously something off.
Wish me luck, I appreciate the informative video.
Sorry to hear this. I hope you find the answers you're looking for. Thanks for watching.
Check your house (and possible work place) for mold usually in the drywall. Also do a visual contrast sensitivity test.
I'm not writing you off, but at your age, you need to explore all the things that can masquerade as dementia. I would imagine there is an array of other things that can cause the same symptoms and you need to explore them all, especially at your age.
True, a lot of doctors sadly do the opposite, and will write off young people as paranoid and/or refuse to perform certain tests, and miss serious diagnoses such as cancer, dementia, etc. because they are so certain someone so young can't possibly have something so serious. Don't let a doctor do that to you. Find one that will take you seriously.
But, you do need to approach it more logically than emotionally. I will be straight-forward in that you seem to be fighting for a dementia diagnosis as opposed to fighting to explore all possibilities of what this could be. It's not impossible it could be dementia, but it would be very unusual.
Best of luck in finding your answers. Please explore all things this could be from the most simple. Diet (like gluten intolerance...saw a TV special where a baby would just space out and go in a paralyzing trance-like state after eating...and they caught it on video..they discovered he couldn't tolerate gluten), sleep patterns, depression, medications that could be mixing with things, environmental factors, etc.
Thank you for the reply! I appreciate it. Meant to reply to all of these, actually.
I've gotten quite a bit worse in terms of short term memory and focus, as well as struggling with word finding, forgetting what I'm doing, apathy, anhedonia, and some other things. Saw my primary/family doctor on April 22nd and she did a MMSE and Minicog test on me, scored 30/30 and 4/5. Only got a 4/5 because I couldn't remember the other word to recall which was picture, I think the others were garden and captain.
Also waiting for a neuropsych referral to go through, my primary thought a neuropsych and psychiatrist would be my best route forward, and I see the neuro that was meant to replace my retiring one (not the one that dismissed me who was apparently only supposed to help me with the sleep apnea) on June 7th.
I also had a full blood workup and everything was normal, B12 was on the lower side of normal but nothing was abnormal.
I found out my uncle has FTD a few months ago, he just turned 65. My mother is 67 I think and she doesn't seem to be showing signs. I worry about genetics and because of how it's presenting that it might be FTD and I thought it was ADHD not responding to meds the whole time, so I dunno. I might ask for genetic testing to check for the gene that causes it since my mother won't get herself tested.
I'm definitely trying to rule out other things and eat healthier, exercise when I can get myself out of bed, keep myself distracted, etc so I don't stress, too. I also will make sure I find someone who takes me seriously, thankfully my primary is very sweet and advocates for me so if this new neuro doesn't work out, she'll help me find another. I'm just very limited with my insurance, unfortunately.
Sorry for the paragraph, haha. Just thought I'd give an update while I'm replying.
Deja vu is a sign of the brain growing
It usually happens when we are adolescents but can happen at anytime
Was diagnosed last weekend with Cerebral amyloid angiopathy, future is bleak. I am 65 years old.
I am so sorry.
I am so sorry to hear that. 😢
So sorry to hear that. May God bless you and keep you. 🙏 💖 🌹
One Day at a time.
I'm 51 and I can't pass this test. Very scary!!
I did really good it was pretty easy. Age 89
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So did I at 78. Really thought I would stuff up the short-term memory side.
who are my young people who live in constant fear that they have cognitive decline for probably no reason.
First time I did only ok. A few minutes later I did it again and did very well. Maybe stress hindered me the first time around, plus I'd already heard it once. Counting backward has always been difficult for me! Even driving backward (like back home from).
Did you have dementia
If you take the test the second time you're bound to do much better than before, so the second take will not be accurate
No it is not stress. You repeated the test, you knew 80% of it during your second attempt
Thank you for sharing this test. My memory is not what it used to be, but I was able to pass the test.
Fastest minute i have ever seen.
I answered all questions but i believe to stay alert one has to do things on a daily badises got example crosd eord and wordsearch have an active interest in many things research aty one should never stop learnin g
The stockbroker question requires information not provided in the story. The story only said that she lived in Chicago. Answering the question requires that you know that the city of Chicago is located in Illinois.
There are similar tests in Norway, when people are over 80. They must past it, to keep driver licence.
As I was told by some of them. Everyone complaining on the clock test, as most difficult one. To tell the time from any clock was no problem. But to describe it on empty cyferblat it is.
I have even spend some time with one grandpa, who I have been living with, under one roof.
But only like 6 oclock and sharp 12 was possible for him to describe without mistake. Sometimes sharp 3 and sharp 6 as well. But any other, like half pas two, or five to three, was unpossible for him. Doctors say clock test show us if he realize what is around him and I would agree with it. Cause he was perfect driver when he drowe forward. But to drive backword and take turn at it, was a problem. He scratch my car once. And his at the grocery parking. Then his family decide for him not to drive anymore. Then he got electric skuter on 4 wheels with roof.
I think we should have some standardized measure for people to keep their DL here in the states, too.
In the UK we are gone by 80.
Scary.. I missed a lotta those. But I've always had lousy short term memory. She also had 4 numbers to read backwards. I'm not gonna get those either. my limit is 3. and the 5 objects? I think I remembered two of them. However I am noticing a difference in groping for things like people, places in recall. For example famous people that are over 90 years old. It took me a while to remember Hackman I had to look up the cast for "Unforgiven" because he played the bad guy in it. I also couldn't remember if Barbara Eden & Sofia Loren reached 90. No they're one year shy they're both 89. But no problem with the story questions and no problem with the 3 figures. And probably no problem with the number of animals but I doubt if I could go on for a minute with naming them. depends on how fast I named them. I also had problems with the $100 questions however IF I wrote them down absolutely no problem with simple math like that. I'm 80. however I have an uncanny sense of direction. Drop me off anywhere blindfolded and I'd find my way back home because I'm a "compass" guy.
I never remember numbers and only recalled three things. I’m a bit dyslexic with numbers especially if spoken. My memory also has never been that great. I make notes of things I want to remember. On the other hand I file my own taxes on paper. I can figure out things logically. It was hard in school with a poor memory. I’m directionally impaired. Turn me around a couple of times and Im lost. The app maps helps me immensely. I guess I just use things to compensate. Not great at conversation but ok at communicating in writing.
I wonder if you don’t rely on your memory as in writing everything down does it get worse.
this was a good test ...
i was nervous - but i got them all right.! :)
The three shapes. Which is the 'biggest' by what standard? The rectangle (square) is the biggest in surface area, the rectangle on the right (as I'm looking) seems to be tallest.
What’s worse then finding a worm in an apple the answer is finding half a worm
I have never been good at cyphering in my head
They asked me to draw 10 to 11 the last two years. How unoriginal. Next time I take the senility test, I'm going to drew 3:25 and tell them I'm tired of drawing the same thing every year. The test writers could be more creative.
Calculation many people measure by Tonne which is 2000 pounds . Many reasoning can’t be weighed on a scale .
I always dread the math part…these never seem to me to be realistic. My PCP was interested at my clock face. I put the 12, 6, 3, and 9 first, then fill in so everything is equally placed! My first grade students could do it, but apparently this is hard for many people! Drawing a cube has always been easy but that, also, must be hard for many people!
Just let me live my life in peace.
The dementia test doesn't address how well a person functions; if they are safe to be alone, if they can take care of themself, and so forth. Since it is mostly an off-topic test, then they can cause more people to go to nursing care facilities.
That is correct. It gives us a good idea of people's deficits (areas they struggle with the most) but it does not necessarily let us know how well they can function at home. For that, we use other testing, such as the Allen Cognitive Levels, which gives us a score that correlates to what a person can do and how much assistance they require. It can also tell us if the person is safe to live alone, live alone with some support or requires 24/7 care.
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god, I couldn't do this at 20 years old
What would happen if we used the term "person" instead of "patient?"
Good point. Personalizing it would probably not help because the test doesn't address what a person needs to know to be safely independent. Since it is an off-topic test, then they can cause more people to go to nursing care facilities and make a larger profit.
They are not willing ..
I have a system for remembering strings of objects I picture an apple with a pencil shoved into it with a tie wrapped around it. Then it all inside a house with an atrached garage that contains the car.
(Pen, not pencil)
I just told myself a story - I got an Apple Pencil & tie and took them from the house to the car
OMG, I created almost the exact same picture in my mind - an apple with a pen stabbed into it with a tie tied around it, inside a house. The only difference was that I was inside a car that was sitting outside said house with the apple/pen/tie in it lol
Just because people don't listen well, feel scattered, distracted, or are anxious, does not mean they have dementia. This is like most IQ tests - too general. I got most of these correct, I am 63 years old, but I have not been sleeping all that well this week, have not had my caffeine yet today, so I had a harder time answering the questions regarding the story at the end. I think you will scare people unnecessarily with this video; people will think they have early stage dementia when they get more than "a few" questions wrong, or were unable to respond at all.
46. Master's degree. Missed last two questions on the last story. And couldn't remember the 5 words I was asked to repeat. Only remmeber apple, tie, pen. Really worried.
Are you noticing any short-term memory problems in your every day life?
@@CrackingtheCodeforCaregivers If I had these memory problems, I wouldn't remember having them. But I often forget names of actors I used to know repeatedly.
Please don't be. Repeat test. Keep trying. ❤
Fear not! I never could do that 5-word test. I'm 85 and don't have dementia--thank God.
It's all bs, don't worry about it.
Person
Woman
Man
Camera
TV
Bam!
I misunderstood the apples and thought you spent $36 on the apples
@2:00 do the test
Do you know where the studies are on the
efficacy of the 3 word recall test? There are 3 little articles I've found, but
not any decent studies to justify giving that test to the elderly. I know it's
a standard test and I'm betting someone came up with it decades ago, and it has
just been passed on down without any clear research. I'm writing a graphic
memoir of how I used my health and fitness knowledge to stop my mother with
mild dementia from forgetting me, and I've been flummoxed on the actual studies
for the 3 word recall test and the cube drawing test. How many people can go
grocery shopping with 3 items in mind, and actually remember all three? My
college freshmen cannot remember the 3 questions I ask them when they go around
the room. Let me know if you can point me in the right direction. Thanks
I've never given the Mini-Cog Test (or 3 word recall test) but from the research I've done, It appears to surpass the MMSE on brevity, sensitivity and acceptability which has an overall sensitivity of 79%. I personally like to administer the SLUMS or MoCA, both with a 5 word recall and delayed recall portion. These 2 assessments provide me with more detailed information into what the patient can and can't do well using my 10+ years of experience in the field. I hope this helps with your question. Would love to hear more about your memoir. Let me know if I can be of any more assistance.
My 70 year old mother can remember not only 3,not 5 but 10 words I ask her to remember not only for a few minutes but even hours later. So idk what's up with your college freshman..
@@wioiyoung folks don’t like to train their memories, nor does media help…
Those who are over 60 or so also grew up before handheld memory banks were common!
You’re right - this is a ridiculous test - probably from the ‘60’s!
A dozen of apples for 3 dollars?
Is that 3 dollars for each apple or for the dozen?
$3 for the dozen
Good point - not precise enough English was it?!
Sounds like the Mini Mental Status Exam (though the MMSE requires 3 items to remember). Five objects is too many. How do healthy people of any age do on the SLUM?
Five isn’t bad, if you make a connection such as eating an apple in the car after you leave home/house for a business meeting (hence the pen and tie)…
I find the SLUMS to be a bit more challenging than the MMSE. Most normal people miss 1-3 points on the SLUMS.
I'm 46 and it's looking pretty clear I have vascular dementia. All that ecstacy in my 20s worth it. Actually I started having these symptoms after the drug abuse. I would be in motel, go to vending machine and forget my room #. Happened more than once. Also have no geographical memory.
I'm sorry to hear that. And at such a young age. Do things to keep your heart as healthy as possible...that will help!
Never too late to take care of yourself. Someone needs you❤
Look into vitamin therapy.
I’m seeing that substance users seem to have vitamin deficiencies.
I did lots of popcorn and ice cream in college, so I’m basically in that category also, but had significant health improvements when I was eating mostly out of my garden for a few years, when my children were teens.
Please look into keto. A doctor recommended that to a young friend that had a rod go through her head in a car accident .
Goes I totally for got the apple list. I got apple tie and house. I’m 65 but under extreme stress and depression .
I am 67 I can't pass this test
Failed all
I have been having short term memory loss for about a year now. I'm 58, high school, currently going through a worker comp claim for cervical spinal injuries that I've had for 3 years. On the public hospital waiting list, if that fails. I did your test out of concern and curiosity. I failed all of the recall questions. I could do the numbers backwards but not the last lot you said. I have noticed that my spelling is a bit suss momentarily and sometimes I can't find the word I'm looking for - it's on the tip of my tongue. Very frustrating. Sometimes, mid conversation, I forget what I've been talking about. Should I be concerned and follow up? Or is this normal?
I would follow up... Knowing if you have a cognitive deficit is the only way you can start working on things to improve or maintain function. Best of luck to you. I'm sorry to hear that is happening...58 is so young.
@@CrackingtheCodeforCaregivers thank you for your reply. I'll definitely follow up then. Thanks again for your help. God bless.
@@CrackingtheCodeforCaregivers after talking to my daughter, my memory problems have been going on since I was injured. (I was only two years out. Lol.). My meds have been changed and or adjusted. Hopefully this will have a positive effect. My GP rattled off a whole bunch of questions and I was able to answer all straight away. It did take me a little while to remember what I had for dinner last night.
I’m in the same boat with you. I’m 60 and experiencing the same as you. It’s scary and frustrating. I’ve an appointment to see a neurologist and psychiatrist in a few days
I heard there’s a new drug that slows progression 30%
So does the test have just standard questions or is there different ones.
Standard. But there are other assessments if a person is familiar with this one enough to influence scoring.
I couldn't do the test properly because I don't live in a state. I'm Canadian and we have provinces.
I would just equate states with provinces for the purpose of the memory test.
Just switch out Chicago for Montreal and make the question "What province did she live in?"
Where is the test at so I can take it? Is slow term memory loss a sign of dementia?
Test is attached or given in the video. And yes, short-term memory loss is one sign of certain types of dementia.
Difference between Alzimers and Dimenchia? Christine
Alzheimer’s is a form of dementia. There are many forms of dementia with Alzheimer’s being one of them. Other forms are Lewy body, and vascular.
Who is Christine?
OH, Shoooot!!!
Oh, I failed almost every one of these tests. I’m only 63.
I think I could answer them all perfectly but don’t care to. What does that show?
I guess it shows you're lazy and egocentric.
That question about what state in which Jill lived was a bit sneaky… 😁
You were speaking a bit fast with the strings of numbers.
It’d be nice to know in the video how many animals named in one minute is good.
I like challenges. This was interesting…
I’d like to try it on one family member in particular, in a group setting with other family members also taking the same test. They might find that the one family member isn’t quite altogether there.
The score for the animal naming is as follows: 0-4 = 0 points, 5-9 = 1 point, 10-14 = 2 points, 15+ = 3 points
@@CrackingtheCodeforCaregivers thanks! That’s not really so difficult, if you consider categories of animals beyond household pets, such as zoo, farm, or wild.
Still, does it count if you name a variety of the same type, like penguin, hawk, cardinal, ostrich, etc.?
@@salauerman7082 yes. The point of naming is to see how well the brain is able to retrieve stored information. With dementia, the brain's ability to categorize and retrieve words begins to worsen. So, let's say you could name 30 animals one year and only 20 the next, then only 15 the next, you can start to see the decline in the brain's memory and language centers. This often translates to more difficulty with finding words in everyday conversation, too.
@@CrackingtheCodeforCaregivers keeping brains active is really important, to delay or inhibit decline, right?
@@salauerman7082 yes. One of the best things you can do is learn something new. But, equally important is keeping your body active.
Among the 3 shapes, I correctly identified the middle one as being the shape that is a "triangle." I also correctly answered the question "which of the three shapes is the largest?" The middle shape is the largest because it is a prism and while its triangular face may be smaller than the face of the rectangle solid shown to the left of the prism we know that it extends further away from the viewer, than either of the rectangular solids shown. The rectangular solid to the left is 2 units high and 2 units wide and extends back 1 unit. So its volume is 5 units. The rectangular solid to the right is 2 units high, 0.33 units wide, and extends back 1 unit, so its volume is 0.66 units. The prism in the middle is 1.5 units high, has a base of 1.5 units, and extends back 12.5 units, so its volume is slightly more than 14.06 units . Therefore the prism in the middle is, by volume, the largest greater of the 3 shapes. Well, it is the largest in terms of volume but I am unable to estimate which shape is the largest in terms of mass. I actually was recently given this test and the person who gave the test told my daughter that I had dementia. I asked the test giver if she would discuss the test results with me and explain why she determined I have dementia, but she refused.
Just what I was going to say lol
I don't see why you're assuming the "shapes" are 3 dimensional objects. They were only labeled "shapes", not objects, and look 2 dimensional, so I think the correct answer is the one that seems the more obvious. The largest is #1.
@@canbenchecocat9729 In the discipline of solid geometry, 3-dimenstional objects, like the 2-dimensional objects in plane geometry, are referred to as "shapes." That said, I understand your discomfort with my answer to the question.
What's the C on the wall all about?
Cracking the Code for Caregivers
lol
Yes because Jennifer Turley has J & T for initials so I assumed it must be her child’s or partner’s initial
I have been facing this for almost one and a half years, my brain is completely blank, it is not working at all, I feel confused, I always have a problem to make a decision, and I have a problem to judge.My brain is taking too much time to even form a sentence with a few words and my daily life, study, job is hampering them a lot.The brain is not working at all, facing a memory loss. I don't remember anything from before. Even I don't even remember what I had for lunch at same day..
I could only think of objects. No animals and she didnt give us a whole minute
Biden would’ve failed miserably because ice cream was nowhere in the video.
There is only one person that can ace this test 😂. You know who, right ? 😂😂😂😂😂
Have failed
Huh what
Forgot the damn Apple
Yikes!
Started watching this video but can't remember why.
I completely failed this test and don't give a shit. Do you think that the government will take all my assets?
Christine
BS I don’t remember from childhood , what ate , like all kids
Is that for real or a joke 😂
HAVE THEY ASKED ‘’HARRY’’ TO DO THE TEST - it appears to everyone that he needs one - same as JOE BIDEN !!!
Biden would not pass this test.
You shall not pass!
None of these tests are useful for someone with an eidetic memory, completely utterly useless... augh.
We need Joe Biden to take one of these! No, forget it, Total waste of time.
Give Joe Boden this test. He will flunk it for sure😂
You flunked because you can’t spell President’s name
Assessor: " Who is the president of the United States?"
Biden: "Kamala Harris"
Assessor: "Who is running the country?"
Biden: "Obama"
Assessor: "Congratulations Mr. President, you pass with flying colors"
Bigen: "Double chocolate chip vanilla ice cream"
Assessor: "Ah, Mr. President were finished with the test"
😂😂😂
So funny. Sad,
but funny as hell.
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Blah blah blah.
Get to the point !!