RG35XX SP Review: Shut up & Take My Money
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- The GBA SP released over 20 years ago, and it took all of that time for another company to come in and create a good clone. In this video, we review the new RG35XX SP from Anbernic.
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00:00 - Intro & Unboxing
01:12 - Specs & Pricing
01:59- RG35XX SP vs. GBA SP
04:46 - Controls
06:56 - Screen
08:01 - Wireless Co-Op
09:15 - Bluetooth & Console Mode
10:59 - Input Latency
11:34 - Sound Test
12:10 - Hinge
14:01 - Thermals
16:21 - Type C to C Charging
17:04 - Software Introduction
20:17 - Software Issues
21:50 - Custom Firmware
22:44 - GB, GBC, Game Gear, NGP, WS Emulation
23:19 - GBA Emulation
24:06 - NDS / PSP Emulation
25:53 - NES, SNES, Genesis, 32X Emulation
27:17 - PS1 / Dreamcast Emulation
28:46 - N64 Emulation
29:44 - Battery Life
30:13 - Pros / Cons
30:58 - Recommendations
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Taki Jr. zeroed out my calipers when they were open, and I didn't notice 😂
Real data:
GBA SP DPAD = 17.85mm
RG SP DPAD = 21.35mm
GBA SP ABXY = 7.7mm
RG SP ABXY = 8mm
Turn on sleep mode 😁
Sleeping issues or work?
Do some meditation
Insomnia's the worst. I hope you are able to sleep and feel better soon!
Can any one of you who got it,
just close the freaking screen while the game is running to see wtf happens
The fact that we are nearly a decade into USB-C and companies still can't bother to include the two resistors required to properly follow the USB-C Spec and support C to C charging is ridiculous. It is literally just two resistors that need to be connected between the CC1 and CC2 pins of the connector and ground. When the charger sees that it knows to output 5V.
I wonder if it is related to the charge port issues in addition to battery death just after a few days. There's no way to assess, as there wasn't any sign it would just stop
could not agree more. it's absolutely ridiculous. pretty much the _only_ thing i dislike about my Miyoo Mini +.
Big tech hates this guy!
agreed
I have no idea what you said but I agree
I can't wait to see a DS/3DS clone
Edit: I own a modded 3ds XL already. Personally I'd like an emulator with this form factor to take advantage of fast forward and save states for RPGs. Also not spending $1000 on on the Aya neo flip...
Looking at about 7 years til that happens
@@eatereater6312there are fold android phone so i dont know man
I''m pretty sure, they have no shame in stealing ideas.
There is the AYANEO Flip DS.
@@eatereater6312 Not necessarily, AYANEO brought the Flip to market recently. Making an ARM-based copy of that should be a no-brainer for the handheld industry.
So surreal to see PS1 and Dreamcast running on a device with this form factor.
The temptation to buy a silver one and stick some tribal black stickers on it for the nostalgia trip.
So ugly..yet so cool😆
I want that one to paint like the NES SP
hey taki, the temp readings of the silver case console are likely different due to the reflectivity of the paint. light based thermometers aren't reliable on reflective surfaces. a piece of paper tape on the surface would give a much better reading. another great vid btw
I hope one day soon they'll consider making Oled versions of this, just recently got an AMOLED GBC kit and let me tell you GB/GBC games look absolutely stunning on it! Other than that this console looks really, really solid!
That transparent model is so pretty. I was so tempted but ended up going with the silver for that pure nostalgia. Excited to get my hands on this thing.
Hey,because the heat right?
Same
@@eunuvreau8943 imho I think the transparent models dissipate heat away from the device better according to the testing. If the outer shell of the transparent model gets hotter than the solid model but inside temps are the same in a "couple minutes" of running GoW, in the long run i think that would mean that the solid colors "project heat back" into the components and that transparent models let heat escape better. I rather have warmer hands than problems with a device due to heat issues.
Edit:
ow and retro game corps had sound problems with the hinge in his solid colour model. In my experience with different devices transparent models feel smoother to the touch. So maybe because of rougher/stiffer plastic on solid models that produces squeaking in a hinge.
So both reasons in mind I decided to buy a transparent color (blue, because i want to play it outside and black stuff gets hot in sunlight quicker). I want this anbernic device to survive as long as my GBA SP (tribal) has. Got it as a present for my birthday from my parents at release and it still works fine, haven't changed or repaired any components. Would be nice if a clamshell emulator held up as long.
@@s1th_THWM i really appreciate the time to answer do detialed ,i will get blue and silver than ,glad i haven t yet ordered .btw any solving to the heating?
Is this a clam shell version of the RG35XX (H)?
I think its a good thing it is a bit chunkier. I have fairly average sized hands for a european and the og SP gives me cramps these days. It was great when I was 14 but not now. The Anbernic is an SP for those of us that grew in size but not mentally lol
Quality of handhelds for 50-70 bucks is amazing.
Same is true of NGC/PS2 capable machines but I'd love the price difference not to be so great between the 2.
you know a handheld is good when taki finally makes another handheld-focused video about it
RIP, I need to address this in a future video.
@@TakiUdonjust make the content you want to make and makes you happy
I might just be paranoid but that battery issue seems like it could be a bigger problem in the future. Crappy buttons I can do, funky software I can do…. But battery heat issues stress me out….
I've seen all the first impressions videos i can for this device and your's always come with all the relevant information for me. Thanks for your hard work.
most professional, detailed, and concise video review i’ve seen. instant sub. well done dude.
That silver one is fire.
Taki video is the one I waited the most on this handheld
Hi Taki, thanks for the great review! Btw, regarding sleep mode issues on stock - for newer systems like Dreamcast, N64 and PSP, stock OS has an analog to dpad toggle which is mapped to power button. So the power button does not put the device to sleep on these systems. The other thing about taking long to get into and out of sleep - you had the quick shutdown enabled. In this case the power button doesn't put the device to sleep, but instead it does a "fake" sleep like Onion does in Miyoo mini - save state and turn off. So the long time getting back to the game is actually turning on the device and loading last played game with auto load state turned on. Bato/Knulli don't have either of these features so the sleep there is real, however device energy consumption is about 5% per hour since kernel is not open source and proper sleep is not reachable for cfw devs at this time. Stock OS with quick shutdown turned off, does behave the same regarding sleep (including the energy consumption)
Thanks for that
Good to know it has a virtual analog stick button, I was actually curious if they ever updated the 35XX+/H/SP software with this. At this point they should put a lil more funds into cleaning it up and bring it to every device as AnbernicOS. It just needs a kiosk mode in the scripts similar to Batocera.
Quick shutdown is the default behavior on this. The magnets put it into the normal sleep mode, but they also don't work that consistently.
Woah, that means we can play Pokemon Stadium 1 & 2? Nice!
who needs the case? the whole point of having a flip is so you can just shove it in your pocket and flip open when you need to game. ordered the blue. I never thought I'd ever say it but well done, Anbernic.
Thank you, Taki. Your analysis showed us a lot of aspects to consider about the new 35XXSP.
The only one in whole RUclips who made an hdmi test, thank you so much
Very tempting to throw this on credit and get it now. Thanks for the review!
Ive been waiting for this. A decently powerful handheld in a gba sp form factor without any sticks to get in the way. That can also basically become an emulator console with bluetooth. Fantastic.
I bought the silver Anbernic SP model around time of launch. Can't wait
You really did interesting tests on this ( ex : input latency with controller, button quality, screen comparaisons, many thanks ).
I think Anbernic realizes they have a killer lineup right now with the XX series, 35xx, 35xx plus, 35xx h, 28xx, 35xxsp.
All interchangeably using the same software (muOS is great by the way, works day one on the 35xxsp).
Anbernic will probably pump out more of these, this is an insane cashcow.
Now the only thing they need is a replacement for the RG280V
Bloody good critique lad and oddly, I completely agree.
Love your reviews always man
I appreciate that!
Saw this vid and bought it instantly in the transparent black, can not wait 😁
Great review as always. Wish they also made a 4" screen version (SPXL).
I like the button sounds. I have them on on my other RG35XX's. Now I have to get this one as well because I want the clamshell form factor.
Looking forward to my silver one getting delivered, would love to see an updated video if you manage to find some kind of heatsink to make a decent difference.
Good honest review thanks
I'd been looking for a GBA SP for a long time but I know that I could buy not good ones. I both RG351P and RG350XX. And now this comes. Damnit.
Ordered one this morning for my hubby...maybe I shoulda got one for me too.
Hey Taki will you be reviewing the RG28XX at all? I like the look of that device but have some questions, would love to see a review before I pull the trigger on it. I know others have reviewed it but I really enjoy your deep dive style and have come to trust your reviews over others.
Thanks for the video, the SP is my favorite handheld and it's great seeing it recreated like this. I have a question, did you do any testing on the display shaders within Retroarch? I usually like some kind of CRT shader for 16bit consoles and anything 3D so I wonder how hard the performance hit is with lightweight shaders.
28:34 Wow, that's Gauntlet: Legends. I played that on an arcade when I was a kid and I never forgot. Always wanted to find it somewhere. Thank you! It's on Dreamcast!
This is cool. Might actually get this!
I had it in my cart, and then you got to the lack of USB PD. Might as well be micro USB at that point. I even have a handheld vacuum and drill that charges with USB PD, I'm not buying something without in 2024.
That battery placement over the CPU is also yikes
For real, companies cheaping out on USB is insane. Maybe you can do the resistors trick and it will 5V charge via PD, but meh
@@SToad it's not even a "trick", adding those resistors is literally the proper method for a manufacturer to implement a USB-C port on a product like this (a low power device which only wants 5V). It is currently violating the specification by not having them. It's also the only difference in PCB design between implementing micro USB and USB-C. We are nearing ten years of USB-C and companies are still designing their products like they're using Micro USB.
For 70$ with shipping il take the risk on the battery placement
@@EragonfrostI wish i could have that mindset over $70. Im still set on that anything over $20 is a luxury item.
@@OmairArifMaybe it’s the thermals that prevented them from adding it. I find fast charging produces a pretty significant amount of heat and if your playing while charging it could effect performance or worse
Man watching this gave me so much nestolgia.
The form factor is amazing, the only thing preventing me from insta buying is that I just got a 3ds so i can play all the Nintendo handheld games on the go with me.
Tempting to abandon that for this, but i would miss my ds gams.
Great review! Did you try a blutooth controller with analog controls to see if you can use that in the menu? 9:50 Really appreciate the temperature readings for the transparent and opaque. I'm still gonna get the black transparent though, put an insert to customize it and I'm golden.
Keep in mind that his thermal readings may not be accurate due to the silver model having a slightly reflective finish. He should have put matte tape on both units and read that for consistency.
For the wobbly shoulder buttons you could likely pop them out and apply a drop of superglue to the side of each one then sand the glue down until they fit snug.
Wow I was literally just thinking that I wanted something like this the other day.
Well technically I was thinking about how amazing it would be if they made a clamshell Analogue Pocket. This isn't quite that but it's WAY cheaper than that would be.
I love the Gameboy Advance SP logo on bottom now that its on the screen
Why no handheld reviewer mentions or turn off threaded video will always be a mystery to me. Less input latency, smooth screen scrolling without stutters or frame pacing issues and this SoC can play up to PS1 with it off.
It's off in this entire video. This device still has stuttering issues without that the company needs to address.
@@TakiUdon I was speaking in general terms, I know the stock OS is a bit wonky, but no one ever mentions this setting and all the 35XX OSs have it ON by default.. I know that you know about the setting, I mean, I think you're the best RUclipsr about handhelds, it's just odd that you nor any other mentions it ever...some I KNOW for a fact that don't even know about RetroArch settings besides the basics though, it shows.
I said the exact same thing elsewhere which seems appropriate here too.
'I guess that if you are coming from a loving device that holds a special place in the heart, then the potential to want something like this to bring nostalgia alive like no other is likely going to be high.
It does seem that in this case, the dream is matched by the delivery.
So I see the appeal. But for me, it's limitations based upon the design of the past, means that it does lack some functionality that I would be more used to in 2024. It's a pass for me.
However, we cannot ignore the open piracy aspect that is being openly condoned and promoted.'
Good video. I bought silver and blue version
Regardless of the flaws, I can’t help but agree with your title, “shut up and take my money”
Bought mine right when the order window opened. Hopefully it doesn't take TOO long to get to me!
I grabbed one! I"m only sad they didn't have solid black/red/blue like the original SP color lineup
I'm a sucker for atomic purple, but the transparent blue is close enough for me to buy that
Yeah I've always thought the silver was so bleh. My first ds was that silver and it's the only time I've bought a newer version of a system I already owned. Didn't get the lite, just got another ds that was blue because the lack of color bothered me that much lol.
I went with transparent black!
@@IceHedge I agree that on a nintendo console the silver is pretty bland, but in the context of nostalgia with an emulator console I think it's a solid option considering many of us probably had that color as kids lol.
The blue one is so nice thoughh
bought one and love it!
What's the little monitor you tested with? Looks perfect for a project I'm working on. PS Love your videos! Keep it up!
Peakdo 7" wireless
@@TakiUdon Thank you sir!!!
Everything is the one to buy for your reviews
Wow, this is actually rather affordable! I was thinking it would be out of reach for me since I don't want to buy anything $100~200 when I already have another handheld.
just a little FYI the color correction on retroarch is for the original landscape GBA since it had a significantly diffrent color gamut, most early GBA games chose their colors with that gamut in mind making them look way more colorful than they were supposed to on SP models (EX: metroid fusion)
is that an FE8 randomizer? seeing seth not on his horse is wild lmao
Yo, Taki's got the new Anbernic!
OG comment
Man, that clear clue one is almost identical to my modded GBA SP, except for the buttons.
Hey Taki, can you share link and infos about that tiny portable 16:9 screen you've used for video output? I remember you did previously in a video but I don't remember which one
So about the battery thermals
Taki, you've certainly been into several units of this similar heat situation before. How often did you find their spicy pillow horror stories and how much did that connect to battery heat? Does any industry insider have any say about this you can share?
I have never seen spicy pillow situations on projects that I have personally worked on. I cannot bring myself to make a layout that places the battery over the processor, unless you have a low-heat CPU like the GBA SP.
I wanted to use the predecessor to the processor in the RG SP for a handheld Linux PC that died very late in development. I didn't pick that chip because it could get up to 80C running desktop apps.
The last spicy pillow story I saw was with a PowKiddy device. There could be many more that people don't post.
Just ordered the blue one. Already have the 353V (great) but I’ve wanted a clamshell for a long time.
I cant decide which color to get.... they all look so good.
On these retro handhelds I always get the widescreen ones thinking I'll play PSP but never do. I have a steamdeck for that. This will be perfect for my retro games. I had the original SP, it's beat up from carrying it everywhere. Hinge is still good. Funny how this comes with a case where their others needed it and didn't come with one. I ordered directly through Abernic and didn't see the option so I don't think I'm going to get it. Like I said before it isn't needed, my SP never had one.
Seeing Crash Bandicoot run on this thing is insane.
You convinced me lad.
Are the temps something we need to worry about? Is it worth putting some thermal paste or some other fix on the CPU?
This thing would be a home run if the buttons weren't so stiff, and if Anbernic would follow the code license and release sources for the community to build upgraded OSes with. Joysticks or sliders would be nice too.
They gave out the source to one person before, but that dev didn't publish it. I don't know why they act like their stock code as anything worth stealing at this point...
love to see terranigma
Even though the GBA SP system and form factor have a large spot in my nostalgic heart, I still prefer the design of RG35XX H over this model's form factor.
Your mic sounds nice in this video
Thanks! This is my good mic that I don't usually use. Too much construction noise outside to use my regular one. It's cheaper and it picks up everything.
i never thought i'd see seth as a rogue in this video
Do you get to keep the handheld after review 😊
It’s a tempting buy but I’m waiting to see if the miiyo mini flip ever materializes
I hope we get some good custom OS for this
Might have to buy one of these or the 28xx just for purely all the doom ports/wads if it comes with a decent SD card and they loaded onto it already via portmaster 😂
Doubt you'll see this, but I'm curious what the little monitor you were using to test the HDMI output is
I love the SP design. If I didn't just buy a steam deck two weeks ago I might've considered this
I mean you could always get both. I have a steam deck but it's a bit of a different use case
Russ mentioned that this could be a good companion device to the Steam deck because you cannot fit the steam deck in your pocket. But I would argue if you are going to go down the 2 handheld route the Miyoo Mini V4, GKD Pixel or Anbernic RG280V would be a better fit since they are smaller and you already have the steam deck for longer at home sessions. That said I think the 35XX SP is better if it's your only device.
BUY ITTTTT. I DONT NEED THIS BUT I BUY ITTTTTT
Its it's interesting on this model you mentioned that N64 performance is only running at 240 and then when you switch it to 480 it's choppy. I'm curious is it also the same case for the other devices like the rg35 XX Plus or h?
10:10 Which display are you using here? It looks like the perfect display to compliment a GPD Win 4 for DS/3DS games
I 2nd this request
where did the sound come from in this video? the games' audio was so good
Sleep should work by closing and opening the system not by a button press. The Nintendo DS was able to dot his all the way back in 2005.
The system does support this as a setting in the options. It can also turn fully off as an other option. I wish there was a setting where it goes to sleep when you close it, then turns off after a specified time, since it drains about 4%/h when in sleep.
@@godminnette2 Oh that's cool that it can go to sleep by closing it. If it shuts itself off wouldn't you lose whatever progress you were making in the video game?
@@bland9876 The shutoff mode saves what you're doing first before turning off, and will pick up there when you turn it back on. The downside of doing that is that it takes about 20 seconds to boot back up, whereas coming out of sleep takes only a second or two.
@@godminnette2 yeah naturally will take longer to boot from cold rather than just being asleep.
If you dont like how slow anbernics firmware is, MuOS is a much better alternative and allows for insanely quick boots.
So should I buy this over the myoo mini plus? Want a small emulator for when I'm out on a bike ride trip.
Holding out to see how the Miyoo SP thing looks...pretty tempting to grab one of the 2 to upgrade my v90
The Miyoo version will probably be easier on the thumbs due to softer buttons, and also has joysticks... but the CPU is slower and the software is probably going to be significantly worse.
@@ToyKeeper Guess we will see! Will be a real tragedy if the one with joysticks can't handle many 3D games, lol.
@@Magusguile Sticks are good for older games too, especially for people with "nintendo thumb" injuries.
@@ToyKeeper if I can put onion on it, then the software will be significantly better lol
@@Augrills Onion is part of the "worse", but at least it's better than stock.
9:48 I think I saw on another video review of this device that the dodgy bluetooth controller connection while connected to an external display is fixed when the device is plugged into power (I can't tell from this specific shot if it is or not).
I am very torn between Blue and DMG gray. Blue looks really slick in this video. Really wish they had a SNES-colored version like the GBA in this video, lol
Silver is a non-starter to me because Nintendo's silver handhelds turn into a horrible scuffed-up mess over the course of normal day-to-day usage and I don't trust Anbernic's paint to be any more durable.
First thing im doing is swapping out the tactile button switches with gba sp switches.
I don't care
@@TPW13lol so edgy
For every hand held my only concern is the 3rd party OS compatibility and from there I'm ok with a little fiddling . Default OS is so janky for some of this hand held is small problem.. 😆
But nevertheless so happy that there are many to choose from in any shape or size.
going forward you should try pre-emptive frames to see if you can get better latency than the mister
Just bought a RG35XX and RG35XX H and I'll be buying the RG35XX SP to complete the trilogy
Hi, I have a question, maybe you can help me, I installed the batocera v40 for my device (rg355xxh), everything works and I put the art book theme like you. For some reason, when I scroll through the menu at the bottom of the screen, I have the buttons that explain what each button does, but in your video it was not there, do you maybe know how to cancel it so that it shows this, since I want it to look like yours, it looks more aesthetic, in any case, a good video, I liked it very much Thank you👍🏻
Battery as heatsink is a no-go for me, does 35xx plus or 353v/vs have the same problem?
I wonder if there are mods that could help woth the heat thing. Or maybe a different battery that runs cooler in the future.
I got the RG35XX Plus and i honestly feel this will be my only handheld for the next 10 years, and while the warmth of the system doesn’t bother me, i hope i could mod it to run cooler some day still
7:32 I was watching this in a pitch black room and when you started this viewing andle test I got scared thinking my phone is about to fall
LOLOL
I really hope some of these devices get cartridge slots one day. I want to emulate with my actual cartridges and get retroachievements.
I think one of the main advantages of using a more powerful processor in these consoles is being able to take advantage of shaders to make retro games look better. But, strangely, I don't see many creators exploring this .-.
I have a rg353v, trimui smart pro, powkiddy x55. So far and out of all of them I prefer trimui smart pro because it has the best build quality. Although stock firmware leaves a lot to be desired and I hope portmaster will come but I can't stand these cheap feeling handhelds. Maybe I'll consider the ayaneo pocket micro but I'm going to sleep on this SP until they address some of these as I can play GBA just fine on any of these other devices.
would you suggest waiting for a revision?
Now we need the future mister fpga handheld from taki to have this form factor PLEASE
This is really cool, but I still don't really see a reason to buy this since I already have a miyoo mini plus. CFW is a must.
I have Miyoo Mini Plus but I’m buying this because it looks too good
Yeah, I've been on the fence since I've got a Miyoo Mini Plus as well. I really like the SP form factor but don't think I can justify buying it on the grounds of it not being too much of an upgrade from what I have already.
@@yazajin I hear you, seeing this device just reminded me of how much I miss my black SP from back in the day