Caruso-Giddey Trade Reaction: Thunder can become title favorite, Bulls were robbed | Nerd Sesh
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- Опубликовано: 21 июн 2024
- The nerds react to the Oklahoma City Thunder trading Josh Giddey to the Chicago Bulls for Alex Caruso. They discuss how this is a huge win for OKC and gives them the potential to become the title favorite, while it's yet another brutal misstep for the Bulls.
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The fact Giddey struggled with shooting while in an offense that's one of the best in regards to spacing, scares me how he'll handle Chicago's offense😬
Josh has improved his shooting every year
With J Dib and Chet handling the ball more, Giddey’s touches have decreased
Well he won't be used as a spot up shooter in Chicago so that will probably help
I get that on paper OKC is this beautiful offensive ecosystem but it wasn't for Giddey. He was put in a role where they wanted him to be Ben Simmons or Lauri Markkanen and he's very much neither of those guys
If Chicago puts the ball in his hands and lets him play guard instead of PF he becomes a much better player in every way
Giddey struggled with his shooting while playing as a spot up shooter. It's less relevant if he has the ball in his hands and is the one passing to the shooters. Obviously.
Since this trade, I've been saying it's kinda unfair for okc to sub out Dort and J-Dub for Caruso and Cason. That's a RIDICULOUS perimeter defensive 2 deep.
Caruso should start. Even if they get a 5 and put Chet at the 4.
I’m still broken over this… Fuck AKME. That make it so hard to be a bulls fan
The Bulls weren’t robbed if Giddy turns out. I feel like all the of the court stuff is affecting his stock (ya he was bad in the playoffs)
But 2 years ago we were talking about this guy like a future allstar.
We’ll see
I think it's a good opportunity for Giddy. He definitely didn't fit anymore with OKC, when shai is just their main(and obviously way better)ball handler.
But no doubt about it, OKC got the better deal, Caruso is highly coveted as one of the best role players that any team would gladly have on their roster. OKC just needs to add some size, and they're basically the complete package, imo
I agree Giddy has the potential to be 20/8/8 Coby and Ayo never - plus Giddy shoots 33.7% from 3 ball at 21 y/o that can improve - this is a wait and see - could be a cornerstone for the next 10 years - Caruso might not even be in OKC after next season
@@FTLGSports-cw4hxNah we wouldn't make that trade if we didn't know we could lock him down for multiple years
As a okc fan Giddey a stud bro he gunna go off next year he definitely proved me wrong over the last few years he jus has a bad season
Caruso missed a lot of games and wasn’t leading the Bulls to a ship. He is a good piece for a team that already has it together
The bull's GM was trying to be gangster when he turned down the 2 pick
I’m sorry for us bulls fans too
Why?
Its a great trade for the Bulls.
Im tired of hearing people repeat others who clearly didnt watch okc or giddey over the last 3 years and only want to focus on one thing that they are also being super hyperbolic about.
@@JimBob-jr5up because AKME dumbass declined trades for 2 firsts and a trade for a top ten and instead decided to trade for Giddey and ask for 4 picks and get none… how tf we gon rebuild without picks
@@JimBob-jr5up I’m sorry cuz we didn’t get any fucking picks despite multiple offers including picks and then once actually doing the trade getting none because AKME asked for too much. Idgaf about the Giddey aspect he ain’t great but it could be worse but I want picks to make a rebuild easier
@@trevormay101 Most likely, Giddey is better than anyone youd draft from a late first.
The internet always takes things too far, as well as only applying surface level information.
Stop overvaluing picks, some of you are so blinded by the idea of picks that youre willing to lose out on good players.
Picks are good trade assets to include in a deal, but on their own they are not as valuable as the internet people think.
As i had to tell someone else;
Picks are only as valuable as the franchises ability to draft and develop. If your FO is already a mess and dont know what theyre doing, you have to remember that extends to the draft and trainers.
@@JimBob-jr5up yea yea sure sure pal
Giddey put up the 1 2 3 and 4th youngest triple doubles in NBA history
Considering Giddey’s age and how well he performed when Shai was off the court, I would say this is just a terrible take. Giddey would still be a top 5 pick.
I love AC and what he brings on the floor. The problem is that he has been banged up a lot. Can't stay on the court or play fully healthy.
I do like the upside of Giddy. His vision is really nice. Can't wait to see what the Bulls build around him.
When I first heard this trade, I was like "yep, Bulls are the stupidest franchise in the league." The only other franchise that could possibly compete when it comes to dumbass decisions would be the Nets.
It was a good trade for Chicago-Giddy is the perfect point guard for a team that wants to tank the next 2 maybe 3 seasons -he won’t complain -he will still be only 25 or so when they are out of tank mode-he will have plenty of time to develop his game and shot
Is this the first, build a Celtics clone move of the offseason by OKC?
OKC was already on the path building a 5 out team. They weren’t focused on copying the Celtics, they were focused on building a system that works for them and they believe in.
OK children... It's your parents fault you have cameras and computers. And access to internet.
CHI is a winner in this deal - by a small margin that might prove pretty big in the future - but even right now - by a small margin CHI got the better out of this deal.
Caruso is great but limited. Giddy is nothing but a potential across the board.
OKC didn't get better, but CHI has a chance to a great rebuild.
It’s a good trade for both teams. Considering the Thunder’s need vs what Giddey provided, Caruso is likely the best value they’d ever get for him. I think Giddey is slept on, has insane potential and is 6’8.
Okc got substantially better with Caruso, that’s a childlike take yourself there bud.
Maybe you should buy a computer so you can inform yourself because you sound like a dumbass coping with the trade. So what’s Chicago paying Giddey since he’s a RFA next summer? Going rate is $25M/yr for a starting PG. So either Bulls traded Caruso for 1yr of Giddey or now they’ll have to extend him in hopes of being able to develop and build around him which is the 2 biggest weaknesses of CHI Front Office. Then you build what around him without hitting the 2nd apron because you gotta resign DeRozan and hope someone wants Lavine (horrible contract). Educate yourself before you talk shit about us “children”
I can’t believe Bulls couldn't trade Caruso to the Spurs for Wembanyama and the 4th and 8th pick . Bulls front office have no idea.
Ok that's insane. SA didn't offer that. Maybe 8 but not 4 _and_ 8. Caruso isn't a top 20 player or something. Let's relax.
Anyway Giddey is better than anyone you could get at 4 or 8. SA probably would have traded 8 for Giddey before Caruso
@@michaelahurt I was making a joke to the faithful Bulls fans that seem to believe Caruso is a franchise player.
@@Combinationlock lol. My bad. My brain just skipped over Wemby's name
To your point it seems like Bulls fans actually think 4 and 8 for Caruso is reasonable
Them first round picks would of been late pics. Giddey would probably be the third pick in this draft
Probably first or second. But yes 100%
If someone with his playmaking ability were in this draft they would be a lock to go to Washington and probably Atlanta if they moved on from Trae
Giddey is going to be your best player. In the long run, Bulls will win this trade.
I blame the alcohol 🍸
I feel like Mitchell Robinson would fit great with OKC
Caruso had no future with the Bulls. Why would they extend him to be a backup. He finally got a chance to be a full time starter in this league and he was efficient, but unproductive. Giddey can be a star.
As an OKC fan I really thought Giddey fell off as a player this past season. He appeared disinterested in the team’s success most of the year, inconsistent from game to game, and he lacked confidence in an identity on the court. He can pass, but he was often turning down a pass for a drive or spot up for himself. Missing bunnies at the rim all of the time and wide open shots. Watched him live and his shot is so ugly and flat. You can see why he’s a bad shooter when you’re seeing it right in front of you.
He has potential to be a 15 ppg 6 assists and 7 rebounds on a bad team. He’s a great investment for a tanking team.
"He has potential of being a 15 ppg 6 assists 7 rebounds on a bad team"....
Giddey only last year before his offcourt drama averaged 17/8/7 on a rising play-in thunder team 🤡...
All praises to the most high the Bulls GM is smarter than you two guys Josh giddy was the face of Oklahoma City thunder team. We love Josh in Chicago the point of the league.
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I reckon chicago think they were good with Lonzo ball and think Giddy can make them a playoff team like Lonzo did.. But no.. Lonzo was a better defender
For some guys that weigh 150 lbs max you guys have some heavy takes...
Last 2 "BIG" games for the Bulls to make the playoffs (ATL then MIA) Caruso played 3 quarters and scored 6 points in each game.
Yea ok..Bulls got robbed 🤔😂
Bulls are trash homie. This is why context matters but the internet loves to ignore it for their convenience. OKC doesn’t need offense from Caruso. He’s a connector with elite defense that fits the 5 out system OKC runs and he doesn’t even need to start. Thunder have the 12th pick, $30M in cap room, and 34 picks. I get it tho Bulls fans don’t know what good moves are because they’ve been trash since the 90’s ended lmao
@@808bboarder You tryin to segway into how he should fit in OKC
We not talkin about that
Comment is about how the Bulls supposedly got robbed
Do not let the MJ, Phil & Pip era fool you. The Bulls are worst franchise in NBA history.
Great Logical Commonsense Analysis by you 2 on this trade without Shilling for the Bulls like every other Channel.
The Fact is OKC totally fleeced the Bulls for a Great Championship Piece for a Contender in Alex Caruso (just like Holiday for the Celtics plus Bucks before) straight-up for a guy who they didn't even want in the Giddey Pedo Monster after playing bad this season plus chasing High School Girls off the court getting him booed around the league.
Lakers still lost this letting AC walk for nothing zero zilch
As far as their being something in the water in Chicago, it’s not the water it’s the owner.
Im a bulls fan gm needs to go the ownet needs to sell
I also BLAME WOJ!!!!
Bulls management is dumb
Title favorite? Gtfo 😂
Alex Caruso is 30 years old versus Giddey being a 21-year-old. If you think the bulls got robbed from this trade, then you have no business talking about basketball or any sport, for that matter. This was a good trade straight up! Caruso is in his prime, and Giddy has all-star potential. Bulls got a youthful 6'8" PG triple double machine, and OKC got a solid defender! Giddy would easily go number 3 if he was in this year's draft! Facts!!!
Solid defender? You mean elite defender. 1st team all defense buddy, get it right .
We here in OKC agree glad is gone he can't shoot and plays with no emotion.
You don't know basketball if you think the Bulls got robbed
Okay which one is it okc got robbed or bulls got raided
Bulls robbed themselves which is even worse. You take the ball out of Colby Whites hands, you have to pay Giddey because he’s an RFA next season, no spacing so you forced to move Lavine which nobody values that contract because the new CBA has a 2nd apron, now you have to S&T DeRozan or he walks for nothing. Bulls are idiots for not getting any picks from a team with 34 picks for the next 5yrs.
@@808bboarderGiddey is better than any of those picks
Coby is good but he's not an MVP candidate who needs to have a 50% usage rate. They can use him more off ball when he plays with Giddey and more on ball vs bench units. That's probably optimal anyway vs treating Coby like he's Cade Cunningham
Giddey can't space the floor off ball but if he has the ball that's irrelevant. You can also just use him as screener. I would expect this to become more common over the next few years because it's just such an obvious answer to trying to guard two with one.
The biggest thing with Giddey is he's a very difficult player to build around. You almost have to invent a new kind of offense and ideally you have a guy like Chet as your 5. Which is why SA would have been such an interesting fit for him.
But you want to use him like Jokic where he is involved in every action. Which is why OKC created their guard-to-guard screening offense in the first place to open up the floor for cutters and Shai drives and to leverage Giddey's passing ability as a kind of spacing.
It's like Draymond where if you play off him you just make all his passing reads easier.
I hope they move off DeRozan and let Billy Donovan cook. Chicago could be a crazy fun League Pass team
Huh? What's going on? I thought Americans were supposed to be relatively smart. The amount of petulant complaints I've heard and read from Bulls fans regarding this trade is pathetic! Giddey is only 21 years old and has HUGE potential. He's the future of the Bulls. Stop bagging him and start supporting him. Lastly, this channel sucks!!!!!
No complete opposite. Giddy will hurt OKC in departure