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Hey man getting a 404 error when i try to join your wait list on that link... might wanna investigate unless your updating your back end but i like your looking at the watch pose for being late to the party ;) very cheerful amongst all the sell sell sell content out here of low quality that alone makes finding content like yours increasingly harder, so thank you for breaking into my periphery through the ALOGORITHM! the wisdom here there are alot of slow weeks in the beginning of this journey and explaining that to parents and universal credit work coaches with little in my portfolio to show for it is a rather overwhelming but real problem im experiencing, I personally am trying to refresh adobe illustrator/Photoshop but now i am trying to work as a digital freelancer in fashion brought sew heidi courses which have now migrated to a newer platform which was a disappointing change from promised life time access to yeah were dong this now... however have realised that id heavily benefit from learning an open source program like blender for expanding from 2D to 3D on my fashion/graphic design foundation, but when it comes to choosing and finishing work within my niche has been difficult to sort between old work ive had as inspiration and deciding a brand identity from this point onwards as a vehicle to explore the avenues id like to build up and out into, but my confidence is building and i recently got a fantastic option for my budget of £500 an RTX A4000 so with the vector artwork in particular or typography this is a real consideration for accuracy along with ECC memory not that my work i mission critical but i wanted the workstation support that the associated consumer/gamer cards do not i have just days ago realised i was running the wrong generation of display port adaptor to the opposite display and now ive realised i can run my LG 65SM9010PLA 10 BIT panel to run at my target of 4k 120hz which up until this point hasn't been clear to me how to get the drop down in the nvidia control panel to display the option which was as i mentioned down to the incorrect hardware adaptor of display port 1.2 which came with my 2019 card on ebay but i brought separately at the time an ACTIVE DP 1.4a adapter with hdmi 2.1 input and with fibre optic HDMI @ 48gbps i got off amazon i switched this only a few days ago then this revealed the option of HDR 64 BIT over 32 or 24 bit sdr and the panel shows a 12 bit option but i believe the specs of my panel limit me from activating it but im diverting a little but that anecdote is an example of the steep learning curve of having a desktop pc rather than something of a mobile workflow, the challenges to get the hardware even working in co-operation within your system is like growing pains that unlike their age related counterparts it doesnt hurt you physically but knocks your mental confidence off distraction im hoping theres some advice you can direct me to that will help me understand what im missing in my foundational skills so i can approch them again with confidence and like this man says i will do myself the honour of finishing, by having a routine and working through my issues 1 by 1 but i saw how other 3d artists have a rather large wacom tablet for more tactile control of a design but furniture in my room is restricting how i can work but ive changed it around over 10-20 times in the past few years and now ive decided that i probably need to build my own solutions out into real wooden objects so how can i confidently work with scale between programs by creating contextually measured models that are the shape they were intended as i create them between software's as this has been a very difficult but essential part of my workflow that ive been unable to discover a universal truth between programs and approaches that will give me instant visual feedback that I'm creating what ive intended at the specified size, this is mainly because i want to work on modular graphics, Typography and outerwear which will need to be graded into other sizes so this initial measurement and proportions ive approximated need to be as consistent so i can begin to identify abnormalities within my new habits or where my design principles/ideas/concepts aren't practical or needs a better relationship to the relational objects it has to join on or connect to function from furniture to clothes but this is why id like to build from 2d to 3d but what programs outside of the scope of blender are worth exploring, because i recently discovered substance painter and how they've been aquired by adobe and added to the cloud offering as a separate package but is this preferable to say industry specific focused softwares like Marvellous designer for clothes production or z brush for professional texturing of characters and models, then say autodesks fusion 360 another great program i know little about but know that you can send create 3d printable files from this platform in a .stl or something, probably has alot of other uses but i really am trying to grasp what in actual fact is my foundation and should i focus on 2d because thats where i have most ground covered from a decade ago in college but im 28 now and feeling the pressure of needing my own space/studio so jumping in to the deep end with blender and expanding on unknown topics like uv mapping and using the 2d repeating patterns i have courses on between programs or is that something is should just tackle as i come t it within my workflow? SO MANY WORDS AND THOUGHTS, I find the discovery of this information thrilling and exciting but often loose sight of my needs as a human so how do you keep a healthy balance when working and what does your schedule look like now to other artists you consider peers compared to how you managed your commitments when you were starting and in the middle of your journey and how long have you been in this now? So happy to have discovered a real human on the internet!!! theres alot of related points here id be happy t wait for your response in text or video because i think ive hit points others are experiencing in similarly user related errors that could be fixed by being an active helpful and engaged part of some groups or online forums where this subjects are given solutions and sometimes opinions which help you see through your own naieve self taught badge of honour, that was a funny concept to hear because learning from anyone these days has become a hazardous way to progress in a effeicient and time considered manor and we even though aloth of us have unhealthy knockturnal habits of work if we can find ways to share and reach better methodologies and routines for work we will ultimateky produce better work over time even as i writ to you my posture slumps but im reminded by writing this block of frustration its not in vein and it will reach you when the time is right because i believe you can help me see my grindset clearer and realise the steps i must acknowlege to move forward ruclips.net/video/48AOOynnmqU/видео.html - what happened to google search? This video may actually be one you could do your own take on for discovering resources for work related, progress inhibiting roadblocks that do happen but arent all universal in experience so say using reddit instead of google to search for a solution which 9 times out of ten will result in your problem solved but googling just casts you overboard into a sea of seo! Just discovered your content and so happy i have you are my tribe SIR, thank you for the authenticity and including the video of your student, it would be amazing if you checkd back in with them as they have progressed in their own disciplines i feel like your community is rich but those who do follow you recognize the value here and im filled with grattitude to have discovered this last night!!!
Never give up. I was in animation school 21 years ago and I graduated and handed out demo reels and my portfolio and got zero responses and basically gave up. 2017 I said to myself “I gotta try this again before I get too old.” So I studied blender/Maya and unreal engine constantly when I would get home from my actual job. 3 or 4 hours a day, I sucked at first and you have to accept that fact. But once you start improving, confidence builds along with that. Now I work for an animation studio in Montreal and it was all worth it. I hope this helps someone to keep going. Cheers :)
I can relate to this... 21 years ago I was in school learning 3D, kept handing out demo reels and applying to jobs but never got any call backs. Ended up working in Events.... now, I really want to get back into doing Maya/Unreal aim for what I really wanted to do.
Here’s an update if anyone was interested, I was let go by the animation studio and man it hurt, but I’m still not giving up. Thanks to the people who liked and commented here, it means a lot. I’ll keep updating as life rolls on take care :)
HOLY MOLY FOR REAL! Ive been learning Unreal Engine and Unity and recently after 4 months of real study have a good demo reel to show for my work, wondering if u be open to watch it?
I cried quite a few times watching your video because this is exactly what Im going through right now. Pursuing a degree in game art as a very artistically inclined individual and not really motivated by anything technical. I'm in my second 3D modeling class and I am just still trying to wrap my brain around the fact that this can all be made in the most perfect way, but I can't figure it out. I feel like once I get it, hopefully it will click for me if I keep at it. I dont want to give up because I have come very far and made some really awesome work. But I will continue to push through and give it all I got at the very least. I know one thing for sure is that I cannot afford to fall behind. If I stay on top of everything and continue learning I believe I will have that breakthrough.
it brings tears to my eyes after listening what that guy had been gone through . I can relate this too, when you have questions but you have no one who can give you the answer :( and this is sad . thanks you so much for sharing this video :)
This year, with my 2 year plus working experience in outsourcing company, I joined another outsourcing company, with higher production quality. I thought i could fit in since i passed their art test, but after 6 month, Im dismissed due to lack of efficiency. Most asset I done took more then the given time, made repeating mistake. Everyone tried to help me, gave alot advice and feedback, some works, some doesnt , and im sure the reason being lack of confident is one of them. I didnt grind my skill on my free time to make my self more confident as you stated in the video. All the advice and feedback overwhelm my thought that it started to clouded my judgement like i focus too much on 1 thing but forgot the others. And doing things without following the reference is the most foolish thing i done.
outsourcing companies are the worst working environment for a 3d artist anyway so dont beat yourself up too much. try to find a company that is working on their own games and does not change clients every two weeks and demand their wokers to adapt to different technical requirements and styles every week. i used to work in outsource and it was not very fun, but once i joined a smaller mobile gamedev company that was working on their own games i felt much more comfortable because your day to day work and workflows remaing the same thus you gain more and more confidence and speed unlike the outsource where i was forced to change clients and styles every months or so.
This video is absolutely amazing! I’m 3 months into my 3D journey and you are part of my Top5 artists I watch. This video is perfect for all creatives but gets into detail with the 3D speed bumps. Thank you for your videos!
This video came exactly the day I felt very bad, and was about to give up, it helped me a lot. Now i'm watching it again, and I'm recovering and want to continue. Thank you!
Heey JL Mussi, Thank you so much for your help and feature here, I really appreciate it. Confidence goes so far in this industry and the phycological help was much needed in that time of my career. So, much love to you and all the aspiring 3D artists here
Thanks a lot, currently I'm struggling with all these thoughts, lack of money, no response from employers, etc. This video has been a word of motivation, and in a certain manner a boost to keep doing the homework, thanks again.
Hey JL thank you for those words, ive been following you since the start of your carreer and seeing how far youve got makes me think where would id be if i didnt quit 3d, 4 years ago. Couldnt found any job as a 3d artist so I started my own company, things went well but deep inside me theres a void that i cant fill. The only moment i really feel like home is when i do 3d in my free time, so this 2023 im thinking seriously to change from a business owner to a rookie 3d artist. Pretty big change and im scared as hell but hey i think this is where i belong.
The thing about 3d art is that its alot more accessible now more than ever. Theres more options for software licenses and the cost of a decent computer is relative affordable. I think if you have a lucrative business that allows for a couple of hours a week for you to push your 3d art, you can have a happy medium between business owner and 3d artist while still scratching that creative itch. Best of luck in 2023!
Firstly, this advice is the only advice I can recall where it feels directly applicable to me, as I am, for where I'm aiming. Secondly, the rest of this comment is personal reasons for why your advice is so meaningful to me. Feel free to skip. People have been giving me advice for so many years now. Two years ago I randomly came across a co-worker that had a real interest in 3D art. The moment I realized that (in the middle of a conversation with a stranger), I started stammering and shutting down -- grappling with intense emotions of fear and elation. Just for the small chance of speaking face to face with someone who had some idea about what I love. Before I understood what was happening, I had shut the conversation down. The rest of the day, I kept asking myself why? What I would give to be around people who want to do, or have done, what I want to do. Sorrow that I hadn't felt so... happy?... fulfilled? to be talking with another human being whom I didn't know. Kept going back to that moment in my head, trying to understand why I did that. Why I was so stunned, so happy, so afraid, so sad. How could I reject such a chance without any "no" or "yes" from me? It wasn't a decision. Like I wasn't even in my own body. Last year I met someone randomly who had been working as a 3d artist for years. So many years! I asked them so many questions. I completely hogged their attention among the group outing almost the whole evening. It passed too fast. If I honestly tried to keep them as a contact, they could run away. My own thoughts sounded insane, & it felt wrong to use a person that way. It's not like I wanted to know them -- just learn from them, talk to them more. Who they were meant nothing to me (probably defense mechanism). My boyfriend later said, "You needed that. Your eyes haven't lit up that way in years." He was right, but I was just trying to keep my tears in. I realized I'd been starved of creative conversation, starved of input that mattered to me, starved of the simple opportunity to receive advice that felt applicable to me-- to what I was going through, and to what I wanted for my life. I'd become so used to expecting to feel rejection, criticism, & judgement from people who are well-intentioned, but quite literally don't know what they are talking about. AND of me attempting to understand them, figure out if I was the one who couldn't see. To where any mention of animation, or 3d modeling, or my desires in life -- I brace for impact automatically & had given up on allowing anyone to see that side of me. Going it alone was better than feeling empty. I guess I figured if I could just create an untouchable mental space, only for me, maybe I could last long enough to change my life -- and then at least I could show me, instead of using words. I'll keep taking steps to come back from that, but I'm not sure what to do with the grief of segmenting the parts of me that keep my blood moving-- and the anger that living in this world brought me to treating that route as necessary for me to survive. Money, energy, time, emotional wellbeing, a sense of connection with others, & the ability to direct your own attention -- these are so regularly taken for granted. If I could teach someone else something I don't know -- it would be how to prevent dissociation when you're struggling to keep your head above water.
I just don't have the mental capcitiy to learn it all. I just want to sit in a cubical 3D modelling things concept artists send me. However for the last 7 years every job just wants everything. They want you to be a Concept artist, Technical artist, Prop artist, Environment Artist, Level designer, Material/Shader artist, Lighting arist, VFX artist and on some roles even want you to outright program aswell. I can do a lot of these things but doing ALL of them is just too much for me. I can't do all of them and yet 90% of jobs I see its a basic requirment. That's the main issue i've been experience for a long time.
Thanks so much for the video. As someone who didn’t study 3D Design or Game Design, I always ask my self „Am I going to be good enough by learning everything trought yt tutorials or courses?“ „will Someone actually hire me if I just have self taught experience and my portfolio?“ Especially in Germany, where many find it important to have a scholarship. But I’m not giving up, working towards the best portfolio they have ever seen, so i can work at a job that won’t feel like work, by doing what I love. It was great to hear from someone that did accomplish so much, it’s all possible if u work towards ur goal without giving up !
This made me jump back to 3d art, I still have so many questions tho but the problem is I don't know what questions I need to ask, all I know that jumping back to 3d art helped me mentally.
I'm hustling on a gamble right now, making an animation for a company, I currently have a very crappy pc, my mother keeps pressuring me to get back to school. But your video has given me the courage to continue and finish the project.
Love this video, I’m just startingg my 3D journey and feel like it’s a lifestyle change that helps me in other areas of my personal life! Such a beautiful art journey to be on
One thing that nearly pushed me to quit was a lecturer who would tout his teachings as "industry standard" despite him never having worked in industry. The dude wouldn't allow us to use the shelf in Maya because "It's quicker with the shortcuts and that's how they do it in industry". He also wouldn't slow down to allow us to catch up, which made using the shortcuts even more difficult as we would miss vital information in the process. I left that school and attended another the following year, and while the lecturer there wasn't fantastic, it was much better than the previous school. I'm now about to graduate, hoping to find a career opportunity soon!
Hey bro, this video really helped. I'm not much of a guy who writes a comment, but I felt good after watching this video. I was not on a path to give up, but I was really frustrated with the slow process of self-learning. It's sometimes really frustrating to decode the difference between professional art and the art you make. How to make such beautiful art from which we get inspired!! I am on the journey to get all those answers, and one day I will. Till then, keep making such videos where you don't just talk about the technical side of 3D art but the other side that rarely people are talking about.
Honestly i am so exhausted, i just can't find a job, please don't let this discourage you, i am just venting, maybe it's my portfolio, maybe being a character artist is just that difficult for me, i don't know, good luck everyone, i genuinely hope you work your dream job!
Thanks for sharing, bro. I’m in the same boat over a year with no job. Rejections are tough, but they help us grow. I’ll keep working and staying hopeful. Let’s keep pushing-we’re closer than we think. Keep going keep growing
Yes, it looks hard to understand a lot of knowledge as a beginner, and the concept of completing 3D Art is like a dream sometimes. Thanks for inspiring and motivating me.
Thank you for this video! It comes at a right time for me even 2 years after you posted it. I think my biggest thing is the motivation myth... Do you have a some good tips on how to develop a routine? I feel that I would get so hyped up with a new project and then get overwelmed with the creation of it and adding technical difficulties, I have trouble finishing some of my projects...
My issue is tedious tasks for such a small reward with some models. I want to do lots of props but such simple objects can be so damn tedious. I have ADHD and once my mind is like nope even though I know the workflow it wants to move on.
This may be a dumb question. Everytime I heard 3d artist I thought I don't relate to that. I have been doing the self tought route. schooling is expensive and I work a full time job. For me I don't really count myself as an artist. But when I see cool looking 3d creations I wonder how it was rigged how it moves if I created it how would I make it. I tend to lean towards more of the technical side of things of figuring out how things tick. the appeal to 3d is the sense of inventiveness. as a kid I wanted to be an inventor. The appeal in inventing a way to rig something is appealing to me. I do see some very cool rigs that are complicated. but if I start basic and see what can be done it all goes up from there. I guess with all my rambling. I often wonder if I am not the only one that does't vibe with the term artist or has a more of a drive to understand the technical more
Hi JL Mussi you are the most down to earth person and motivates alot of new comers . I always watch your videos whenever I stucked in the maya. we are blessed that you are here for us to guide us and giving a proper knowledge realated to tools and the industry. thanks alot
sir you just give me another hope! from few month im thinking about give up on my life , dont know is it a right place to say but however thank you sir
My biggest issue trying to get a job in the game industry are the recruiters. They are the most useless people on earth. The amount of times i ask for feedback and they give me nothing or say something completely irrelevant. It just kills my motivation and makes me think that graduates are screwed
all i want to say The Modeling Beast Deserve a BIG CHEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! honest man! keep on being Yourself!
the 'Anore' guy hits hard. seeming people you know die in front of you is less traumatizing than scam schools.... nice positive video and i feel it's all coming from experience.
Some of the problems you forgot to list on this difficult journey of ours would be the following: #1 Perfection: Where you as the artist just want to hop right out of the gate, you put so much pressure on yourself to make AAA quality stuff. #2 Too much detail #3 Lack of $$$ Right now due to the Situation we all went through the past couple years it has destroyed many many lives including mine to the point i am bankrupt, unemployed and im living with my parents unable to pay any of these debts and its a lot to go through. I would love to get back on top of the art wagon but first i need a Job so i can make some $$$. Once i have all of that $$$ than i can invest some of my $$$ into buying some of your courses/mentorships, also buy courses from 3DEX so i can greatly improve my 3d art skills because my skills really need help. #4 The 4th problem of mine is how i personally learn is very different from other people i personally need both levels of help from a bit of Self taught+ a actual guy sitting right beside me in some fashion showing me what i am doing wrong, how i go about correcting it. This is how i personally see this way way way back in the day during Medieval Times where there were Duels, Wars, Violence there were also Apprentices, Masters who would teach their fellow Man or Woman the way of making the Sword or making the Dress. In todays Modern World we have 100% lost all of that and have become extremely selfish, have become a corrupt Capatalistic society where nobody wants to help each other. What tends to happen these days is a guy like JL GEAR for example will create a course and go hey to get my help you must pay $2500 dollars for example. So you as the guy who needs help will reach out to the man when you have the funds and get completely scammed by the Fraud for example. What will also tend to happen is JL Gear will pull the ladder out from under themselves, sabotage you in the process so you dont get up to his level as they dont want more new people in the Space. We now live in a society where you have Frauds, Criminals who dont want to help their fellow Man just improve their skills, build each other up which could create a better society. Just imagine we had more people helping each other out because you genuinely want to and your not asking for $$$ all the time. You would be able to create more jobs, other services where you could help more people learn all of these hard skills regardless of their income level or personal difficulties learning things. I will apply to this masterclass, just watch and learn you talk about all this stuff i genuinely want to learn about but i wont be asking for any of your help until i can get my ship safely back onto the water without going overboard and also having $$$ back in my coffers.
You have really valid points, and I don't wish to dissuade from that. The changes you describe would be good, especially in terms of what more apprenticeships & moral treatment could provide. I do want to say something for the sake of others that might read later. Firstly, historical apprenticeships frequently came alongside mis-treatment. Yes, a different kind of opportunity existed -- and the physicality of it is rare to find now, but it wasn't simply "better" as it was. We lost something good, but a lot of bad things left with that system. Setting aside the many life circumstances that disqualified people from even being considered for an apprenticeship, here's a list of related historical negatives: - Start life with a time debt, as a partially developed human, on someone else's decision. Simply leaving once you can reason wasn't a valid option. - Physical abus3 as "teaching" - Reproduce the Master's work perfectly, but the chance of becoming a Master is slim. - Even as a Master, you make what people pay you to make. - If the person that was supposed to pay you suddenly can't, you might be ruined for life. - You made exactly what you were paid to make, but if the next person in power thinks it's a problem, they might take your life, or put you in jail -- depends on the mood. - Apprentices were an investment in potential, and locked-in labor. As such, hopefully your parents picked a master that also thought you were a human, but it wasn't great odds. Secondly, fraud is tragic. Not being able to learn because of the money required is also tragic. I would like to get the care for my health that I need. I can't because a roof over my head, and food, seems more necessary. A nurse shouldn't feel guilty for accepting pay in the current world. The nurse isn't less of a person for doing so. In the same way, the problem you're describing isn't because there aren't artists who want to help without charging. Guilt shouldn't be directed toward the wrong source. I'd like to say where it should be directed, but my comment might get blocked.
I've just graduated and it's extremely difficult trying to find a job. I feel like I've left uni with so many skills but none of them mastered. I really want this, and I hope I can get there.
Yeah I'm studying game art and it seems they really want you to be a generalist, I'm on second year. It's great for indie studios, not so much for bigger companies where they want specialized pros.
In the end i am having a great education but also a nagging about the path i want to chose . I am passionate about everything in the NPR-department . In many cases i now have to pursue the self taught route cause nobody has expertise in it . However the nagging about not to pursue npr because it would be to niche is extremely demotivating . What is also extremely overwhelming is not knowing how high the standards are to even get into the industry. from what i understand it is extremely high but not impossible ... having chosen a niche part will probably leave me not finding a job after the education ends for quite a while... i am stubborn though . knowing this will not stop me from pursuing this path. I am aware that the majority of jobs are in pbr content and less in the npr route but i wanna at least try my best to get in that industry. it's just extremely frustrating to encounter that this route is kinda seen as a taboo for most people to even talk about . Not just that it is also alienating to a point. what do you suggest people to do when following this path ? and do you maybe know some listing sides to find potential employees other than art station ? Also what is your take about uploading the not so good work to sides like artstation as well ? (i only know artstation to be a good place for 3d ... there is deviantart but i don't think you get taken serious there when uploading content ) Some people i hear say to only upload your best 5 and keep the rest out of it ... and others say that consistency is more important than having good pieces. So you get two very conflicting point of views on how things should be approached. I am currently studying cg and vfx and before that i had no touching ground with anything art related ... i never had art class before starting to study cg and vfx and everything i knew about art was completely self-taught . so when i often compare myself to my classmates ... i feel myself being ... not good enough ... but then again there are some that are just very gifted ... but there is no exchange. with my style of npr i am pretty much an outsider and just mentioning it makes the others cringe. i also do not know of any community where you could exchange with others and learn from each other on this route to it .
So to summarize main frustrating points would be : 1) not knowing what exactly is expected to get into the industry 2) to be alienated by not following a common route that is either hyper-realistic or pixar level of stylization (which both uses pbr instead of npr ). And that npr especially when it comes to terms of Anime looks is seen as something bad .
I still continue to find 3d artist job for almost 2 years. This year will be the last year for me to find 3d job. If I unable to find a 3d job, I guess I have to give up soon.
For me its motivation. I see images, stuff like I wana do/learn/create but I have no motivation to do it because I know it will not work out like this. Its a bit weird to explain xd
My biggest fear is AI. We already have models text to 3d. Yes now it's horrible, but we have example how it's can improve in 2d. I wanna learn 3d but my motivation after this so low.
Do it but if you wanna do it solely for the money then don't but, if that's not the case then just do it and then for the money do something else. Art is beyond making a living for me it's expression and safe space and love.
Instead of being afraid of it embrace it. Incorporate it in your workflow. AI is here to stay and those who don't adapt will be left in the dust, it's the same as when 3d animation came out. In less than a year many 2d studios shut down and 3d ones thrived.
With it being so controversial I don't believe there won't be a balance to it with the stuff that actually works being put behind higher paywalls and a lot of "dissenters" who still want to do things the old fashioned way. The benefit of working with people too is that if you find the right people, you won't get pushed up to failure by having a bunch of yes men that don't pitch ideas of how to do new things and don't ever catch inconsistencies or things like that. If you took pride in your work and attached your name to it, and all it is is AI filler, that's basically an admission that you didn't put the effort in to learn the work yourself or outsource it to somebody who did, so it speaks really poorly for your character. And character is significant in any industry, much less an artistic one that literally involves creating characters. Learn it to learn without worrying about the state of the industry, and you'll probably get job worthy skills as a byproduct
Hey, thanks for the video. I've been having issues with progressing and staying motivated as of late. You gave good advice actually. PS - There's a typo at 26:12 for the word ' experiences'.
I've been doing 3d for about a year now, I can see the result, yes, the skill is changing, that's a fact, but I can't do something on my own, recently I made a model of a Soviet pilot headphones (ag-2), I did not finish it because I just did not feel I was doing it right, I am sure it looks bad, I can not improve, so I redo this model over and over. to get better results. I love 3d, I am attracted to 3d, I enjoy it, but the abundance of information about the structure of creating 3d models for games is too overwhelming and you do not understand how to do it right and whether to continue, I myself am confused by these thoughts and now struggle with them, although I understand that in a year I could get used to it, apparently I am just stupid (now learned to do the chamfers through zbrush, but can not get used to them, I feel like the last scumbag who killed the subsurface and support edges).
I would like to add that it is also difficult to find like-minded people, yes there are many people in discord, in telegram, in twitter who are willing to communicate, and those who own discord channels are open to communication in videos, but when it comes to direct communication then here begins a complete mess, you not only meet a person who can help you with 3D, But also with his personality, And this is alarming, sometimes they become too disgusting One example, I will not name a youtuber, but the fact is that he has a discord channel, and I once asked for advice there, I really do not care about politics or anything, but people really think that if I'm Russian, then I'm trash and do not deserve development? Then how is a person who humiliates you better than "Russians", no one has ever insulted me in my life like he has
@@leptum6804 Sad! What's being a 'Russian' or 'Indian' got to do with learning anyway? There's enough of shit and hatred already. 😢 Too hard to make, too easy to criticize.
The guy from the interview, you must be joking!!.. you've seen your friend die right in front of you in Afganistan and was less shaken then after doing courses..
So happy I woke up to this today, thank you for this awesome video! Every single one of the frustrations you talk about have been a part of my journey. I think the thing I struggle with the most is feeling "good enough" to start applying for the jobs I want. Hoping this year to finally take the plunge after I finish up a couple projects for the portfolio. Giving up is not an option when it comes to the things you love!
reason why they quit: because most of them spent a hurtful amount of money to obtain certificates and an impeccable reel just to find out graduate job offers as baffling as "renewable internship 2 years relevant previous experience required" which reeks like slavery laundering. Spending a fortune and years studying and working hard just to be exploited to oblivion and earn peanuts makes anyone without friends in high places want to quit. They (we) quit because we are being treated below cashier level and will be treated worse if we ever get to reach the top, because the CEOs are no longer the oldest and best artists, but 20 year old money thirsty children placed by their babillionaire fathers. And this is why new movies look so bad, too.
Im learning by my self too, but if you get a mentorship is great because you see thinks in dif way, but dont help a lot if you dont know what r you doing , its sad iknow but it is what it is. Also i a gree not worth it pay som uch money in school, like cgspectrum or other schools. I actually pay vertexschool with mentorship, but like i say doesnt matter if you suck, they can point you 1000 things and still be bad sucker xD. until now i still suck and im shit. But i keep going.
you think you are alone you want to quit i was about to destroy my computer with a hammer youre not alone THANK you BEAST so men i like you give me a Momentum to keep on! THANK YOU
and even if u are good at artistic and techicall side, u still think studio will hire u amongs dosens of other 3d artist who has the same skills ,good at both :)
soon thanks to Ai with just a voice prompt and no modelling lessons a 6 year old will be able to make instantly what you've just spent months of your life on
Yup that's what I'm thinking after using CHATGPT ...people think AI is gonna be a great opportunity for them but they don't know there job are on stake
This defeatist attitude is not going to help in any way... Regarding the AI stuff, yes, it will impact every industry. I work as a freelancer, and I can tell you that clients are using AI to create images instead of directly contacting me for pitching ideas. In my opinion, my freelance rates will decrease, and the workload for one artist will increase. It's better to become exceptionally good at what you do and embrace AI as an ally... There is also a well-paying retouching job in my area that involves machine learning. I didn't take the job, but many retouchers have accepted it. Ultimately, it is the people who determine the market, not the company, in my opinion...
yes, i also change my way from zero to hero i was an electrical and electronic engineer and was in business but all hope was to go down so i jump in 3d 2022 & got a job. i have never done any courses just watch all 3d artist videos on the channel and learn every day still learning keep in mind it's all about workflow and good topology. Currently, I'm playing the role of a 3d artist and texturing artist in superdna3dlab.
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Hey man getting a 404 error when i try to join your wait list on that link... might wanna investigate unless your updating your back end but i like your looking at the watch pose for being late to the party ;) very cheerful amongst all the sell sell sell content out here of low quality that alone makes finding content like yours increasingly harder, so thank you for breaking into my periphery through the ALOGORITHM! the wisdom here there are alot of slow weeks in the beginning of this journey and explaining that to parents and universal credit work coaches with little in my portfolio to show for it is a rather overwhelming but real problem im experiencing,
I personally am trying to refresh adobe illustrator/Photoshop but now i am trying to work as a digital freelancer in fashion brought sew heidi courses which have now migrated to a newer platform which was a disappointing change from promised life time access to yeah were dong this now... however have realised that id heavily benefit from learning an open source program like blender for expanding from 2D to 3D on my fashion/graphic design foundation, but when it comes to choosing and finishing work within my niche has been difficult to sort between old work ive had as inspiration and deciding a brand identity from this point onwards as a vehicle to explore the avenues id like to build up and out into, but my confidence is building and i recently got a fantastic option for my budget of £500 an RTX A4000 so with the vector artwork in particular or typography this is a real consideration for accuracy along with ECC memory not that my work i mission critical but i wanted the workstation support that the associated consumer/gamer cards do not
i have just days ago realised i was running the wrong generation of display port adaptor to the opposite display and now ive realised i can run my LG 65SM9010PLA 10 BIT panel to run at my target of 4k 120hz which up until this point hasn't been clear to me how to get the drop down in the nvidia control panel to display the option which was as i mentioned down to the incorrect hardware adaptor of display port 1.2 which came with my 2019 card on ebay but i brought separately at the time an ACTIVE DP 1.4a adapter with hdmi 2.1 input and with fibre optic HDMI @ 48gbps i got off amazon i switched this only a few days ago then this revealed the option of HDR 64 BIT over 32 or 24 bit sdr and the panel shows a 12 bit option but i believe the specs of my panel limit me from activating it but im diverting a little but that anecdote is an example of the steep learning curve of having a desktop pc rather than something of a mobile workflow, the challenges to get the hardware even working in co-operation within your system is like growing pains that unlike their age related counterparts it doesnt hurt you physically but knocks your mental confidence off
distraction
im hoping theres some advice you can direct me to that will help me understand what im missing in my foundational skills so i can approch them again with confidence and like this man says i will do myself the honour of finishing, by having a routine and working through my issues 1 by 1 but i saw how other 3d artists have a rather large wacom tablet for more tactile control of a design but furniture in my room is restricting how i can work but ive changed it around over 10-20 times in the past few years and now ive decided that i probably need to build my own solutions out into real wooden objects so how can i confidently work with scale between programs by creating contextually measured models that are the shape they were intended as i create them between software's as this has been a very difficult but essential part of my workflow that ive been unable to discover a universal truth between programs and approaches that will give me instant visual feedback that I'm creating what ive intended at the specified size, this is mainly because i want to work on modular graphics, Typography and outerwear which will need to be graded into other sizes so this initial measurement and proportions ive approximated need to be as consistent so i can begin to identify abnormalities within my new habits or where my design principles/ideas/concepts aren't practical or needs a better relationship to the relational objects it has to join on or connect to function from furniture to clothes but this is why id like to build from 2d to 3d
but what programs outside of the scope of blender are worth exploring, because i recently discovered substance painter and how they've been aquired by adobe and added to the cloud offering as a separate package but is this preferable to say industry specific focused softwares like Marvellous designer for clothes production or z brush for professional texturing of characters and models, then say autodesks fusion 360 another great program i know little about but know that you can send create 3d printable files from this platform in a .stl or something, probably has alot of other uses but i really am trying to grasp what in actual fact is my foundation and should i focus on 2d because thats where i have most ground covered from a decade ago in college but im 28 now and feeling the pressure of needing my own space/studio so jumping in to the deep end with blender and expanding on unknown topics like uv mapping and using the 2d repeating patterns i have courses on between programs or is that something is should just tackle as i come t it within my workflow?
SO MANY WORDS AND THOUGHTS, I find the discovery of this information thrilling and exciting but often loose sight of my needs as a human so how do you keep a healthy balance when working and what does your schedule look like now to other artists you consider peers compared to how you managed your commitments when you were starting and in the middle of your journey and how long have you been in this now? So happy to have discovered a real human on the internet!!! theres alot of related points here id be happy t wait for your response in text or video because i think ive hit points others are experiencing in similarly user related errors that could be fixed by being an active helpful and engaged part of some groups or online forums where this subjects are given solutions and sometimes opinions which help you see through your own naieve self taught badge of honour, that was a funny concept to hear because learning from anyone these days has become a hazardous way to progress in a effeicient and time considered manor and we even though aloth of us have unhealthy knockturnal habits of work if we can find ways to share and reach better methodologies and routines for work we will ultimateky produce better work over time even as i writ to you my posture slumps but im reminded by writing this block of frustration its not in vein and it will reach you when the time is right because i believe you can help me see my grindset clearer and realise the steps i must acknowlege to move forward
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This video may actually be one you could do your own take on for discovering resources for work related, progress inhibiting roadblocks that do happen but arent all universal in experience so say using reddit instead of google to search for a solution which 9 times out of ten will result in your problem solved but googling just casts you overboard into a sea of seo!
Just discovered your content and so happy i have you are my tribe SIR, thank you for the authenticity and including the video of your student, it would be amazing if you checkd back in with them as they have progressed in their own disciplines i feel like your community is rich but those who do follow you recognize the value here and im filled with grattitude to have discovered this last night!!!
Never give up. I was in animation school 21 years ago and I graduated and handed out demo reels and my portfolio and got zero responses and basically gave up. 2017 I said to myself “I gotta try this again before I get too old.” So I studied blender/Maya and unreal engine constantly when I would get home from my actual job. 3 or 4 hours a day, I sucked at first and you have to accept that fact. But once you start improving, confidence builds along with that. Now I work for an animation studio in Montreal and it was all worth it. I hope this helps someone to keep going. Cheers :)
Yknow what, that does help. It helps a lot. Thank you.
I can relate to this... 21 years ago I was in school learning 3D, kept handing out demo reels and applying to jobs but never got any call backs. Ended up working in Events.... now, I really want to get back into doing Maya/Unreal aim for what I really wanted to do.
yeah I'm in the same situation you where in 2017
Here’s an update if anyone was interested, I was let go by the animation studio and man it hurt, but I’m still not giving up. Thanks to the people who liked and commented here, it means a lot. I’ll keep updating as life rolls on take care :)
HOLY MOLY FOR REAL! Ive been learning Unreal Engine and Unity and recently after 4 months of real study have a good demo reel to show for my work, wondering if u be open to watch it?
I cried quite a few times watching your video because this is exactly what Im going through right now. Pursuing a degree in game art as a very artistically inclined individual and not really motivated by anything technical. I'm in my second 3D modeling class and I am just still trying to wrap my brain around the fact that this can all be made in the most perfect way, but I can't figure it out. I feel like once I get it, hopefully it will click for me if I keep at it. I dont want to give up because I have come very far and made some really awesome work. But I will continue to push through and give it all I got at the very least. I know one thing for sure is that I cannot afford to fall behind. If I stay on top of everything and continue learning I believe I will have that breakthrough.
it brings tears to my eyes after listening what that guy had been gone through . I can relate this too, when you have questions but you have no one who can give you the answer :( and this is sad . thanks you so much for sharing this video :)
This year, with my 2 year plus working experience in outsourcing company, I joined another outsourcing company, with higher production quality. I thought i could fit in since i passed their art test, but after 6 month, Im dismissed due to lack of efficiency. Most asset I done took more then the given time, made repeating mistake. Everyone tried to help me, gave alot advice and feedback, some works, some doesnt , and im sure the reason being lack of confident is one of them. I didnt grind my skill on my free time to make my self more confident as you stated in the video. All the advice and feedback overwhelm my thought that it started to clouded my judgement like i focus too much on 1 thing but forgot the others. And doing things without following the reference is the most foolish thing i done.
outsourcing companies are the worst working environment for a 3d artist anyway so dont beat yourself up too much. try to find a company that is working on their own games and does not change clients every two weeks and demand their wokers to adapt to different technical requirements and styles every week.
i used to work in outsource and it was not very fun, but once i joined a smaller mobile gamedev company that was working on their own games i felt much more comfortable because your day to day work and workflows remaing the same thus you gain more and more confidence and speed unlike the outsource where i was forced to change clients and styles every months or so.
@@ergohash2517I have a question where do I find people creating games and asking if I can make 3d models for them?
This video is absolutely amazing! I’m 3 months into my 3D journey and you are part of my Top5 artists I watch. This video is perfect for all creatives but gets into detail with the 3D speed bumps. Thank you for your videos!
This video came exactly the day I felt very bad, and was about to give up, it helped me a lot. Now i'm watching it again, and I'm recovering and want to continue. Thank you!
Heey JL Mussi, Thank you so much for your help and feature here, I really appreciate it. Confidence goes so far in this industry and the phycological help was much needed in that time of my career. So, much love to you and all the aspiring 3D artists here
I'm always happy to help Ashleigh. Hope all is well with you!
Thanks a lot, currently I'm struggling with all these thoughts, lack of money, no response from employers, etc. This video has been a word of motivation, and in a certain manner a boost to keep doing the homework, thanks again.
Glad it was helpful!
Hey JL thank you for those words, ive been following you since the start of your carreer and seeing how far youve got makes me think where would id be if i didnt quit 3d, 4 years ago. Couldnt found any job as a 3d artist so I started my own company, things went well but deep inside me theres a void that i cant fill. The only moment i really feel like home is when i do 3d in my free time, so this 2023 im thinking seriously to change from a business owner to a rookie 3d artist. Pretty big change and im scared as hell but hey i think this is where i belong.
The thing about 3d art is that its alot more accessible now more than ever. Theres more options for software licenses and the cost of a decent computer is relative affordable. I think if you have a lucrative business that allows for a couple of hours a week for you to push your 3d art, you can have a happy medium between business owner and 3d artist while still scratching that creative itch. Best of luck in 2023!
Wow. I did not expect a lesson in life. As a 40 year old newbie on 3D i have to thank you. Also this applies to everything not just 3D. Thank you.
I am 27 i really want to study 3d but i feel old and feel it very hard to start from scratch.
Firstly, this advice is the only advice I can recall where it feels directly applicable to me, as I am, for where I'm aiming.
Secondly, the rest of this comment is personal reasons for why your advice is so meaningful to me. Feel free to skip.
People have been giving me advice for so many years now. Two years ago I randomly came across a co-worker that had a real interest in 3D art. The moment I realized that (in the middle of a conversation with a stranger), I started stammering and shutting down -- grappling with intense emotions of fear and elation. Just for the small chance of speaking face to face with someone who had some idea about what I love. Before I understood what was happening, I had shut the conversation down. The rest of the day, I kept asking myself why? What I would give to be around people who want to do, or have done, what I want to do. Sorrow that I hadn't felt so... happy?... fulfilled? to be talking with another human being whom I didn't know. Kept going back to that moment in my head, trying to understand why I did that. Why I was so stunned, so happy, so afraid, so sad. How could I reject such a chance without any "no" or "yes" from me? It wasn't a decision. Like I wasn't even in my own body.
Last year I met someone randomly who had been working as a 3d artist for years. So many years! I asked them so many questions. I completely hogged their attention among the group outing almost the whole evening. It passed too fast. If I honestly tried to keep them as a contact, they could run away. My own thoughts sounded insane, & it felt wrong to use a person that way. It's not like I wanted to know them -- just learn from them, talk to them more. Who they were meant nothing to me (probably defense mechanism). My boyfriend later said, "You needed that. Your eyes haven't lit up that way in years." He was right, but I was just trying to keep my tears in.
I realized I'd been starved of creative conversation, starved of input that mattered to me, starved of the simple opportunity to receive advice that felt applicable to me-- to what I was going through, and to what I wanted for my life.
I'd become so used to expecting to feel rejection, criticism, & judgement from people who are well-intentioned, but quite literally don't know what they are talking about. AND of me attempting to understand them, figure out if I was the one who couldn't see. To where any mention of animation, or 3d modeling, or my desires in life -- I brace for impact automatically & had given up on allowing anyone to see that side of me. Going it alone was better than feeling empty. I guess I figured if I could just create an untouchable mental space, only for me, maybe I could last long enough to change my life -- and then at least I could show me, instead of using words.
I'll keep taking steps to come back from that, but I'm not sure what to do with the grief of segmenting the parts of me that keep my blood moving-- and the anger that living in this world brought me to treating that route as necessary for me to survive. Money, energy, time, emotional wellbeing, a sense of connection with others, & the ability to direct your own attention -- these are so regularly taken for granted. If I could teach someone else something I don't know -- it would be how to prevent dissociation when you're struggling to keep your head above water.
the art gets u admired, production quality gets u hired
Thanks!
I just don't have the mental capcitiy to learn it all. I just want to sit in a cubical 3D modelling things concept artists send me. However for the last 7 years every job just wants everything. They want you to be a Concept artist, Technical artist, Prop artist, Environment Artist, Level designer, Material/Shader artist, Lighting arist, VFX artist and on some roles even want you to outright program aswell. I can do a lot of these things but doing ALL of them is just too much for me. I can't do all of them and yet 90% of jobs I see its a basic requirment. That's the main issue i've been experience for a long time.
Ever thought of changing industry and becoming say, a product/packaging or event modeler/visualizer?
Thanks so much for the video. As someone who didn’t study 3D Design or Game Design, I always ask my self „Am I going to be good enough by learning everything trought yt tutorials or courses?“ „will Someone actually hire me if I just have self taught experience and my portfolio?“ Especially in Germany, where many find it important to have a scholarship. But I’m not giving up, working towards the best portfolio they have ever seen, so i can work at a job that won’t feel like work, by doing what I love.
It was great to hear from someone that did accomplish so much, it’s all possible if u work towards ur goal without giving up !
This made me jump back to 3d art, I still have so many questions tho but the problem is I don't know what questions I need to ask, all I know that jumping back to 3d art helped me mentally.
I'm hustling on a gamble right now, making an animation for a company, I currently have a very crappy pc, my mother keeps pressuring me to get back to school. But your video has given me the courage to continue and finish the project.
Love this video, I’m just startingg my 3D journey and feel like it’s a lifestyle change that helps me in other areas of my personal life! Such a beautiful art journey to be on
One thing that nearly pushed me to quit was a lecturer who would tout his teachings as "industry standard" despite him never having worked in industry. The dude wouldn't allow us to use the shelf in Maya because "It's quicker with the shortcuts and that's how they do it in industry". He also wouldn't slow down to allow us to catch up, which made using the shortcuts even more difficult as we would miss vital information in the process.
I left that school and attended another the following year, and while the lecturer there wasn't fantastic, it was much better than the previous school. I'm now about to graduate, hoping to find a career opportunity soon!
Hey bro, this video really helped. I'm not much of a guy who writes a comment, but I felt good after watching this video. I was not on a path to give up, but I was really frustrated with the slow process of self-learning. It's sometimes really frustrating to decode the difference between professional art and the art you make. How to make such beautiful art from which we get inspired!! I am on the journey to get all those answers, and one day I will. Till then, keep making such videos where you don't just talk about the technical side of 3D art but the other side that rarely people are talking about.
Glad you enjoyed it and I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
Honestly i am so exhausted, i just can't find a job, please don't let this discourage you, i am just venting, maybe it's my portfolio, maybe being a character artist is just that difficult for me, i don't know, good luck everyone, i genuinely hope you work your dream job!
Thanks for sharing, bro. I’m in the same boat over a year with no job. Rejections are tough, but they help us grow. I’ll keep working and staying hopeful. Let’s keep pushing-we’re closer than we think. Keep going keep growing
Yes, it looks hard to understand a lot of knowledge as a beginner, and the concept of completing 3D Art is like a dream sometimes. Thanks for inspiring and motivating me.
Thank you for this video! It comes at a right time for me even 2 years after you posted it. I think my biggest thing is the motivation myth... Do you have a some good tips on how to develop a routine? I feel that I would get so hyped up with a new project and then get overwelmed with the creation of it and adding technical difficulties, I have trouble finishing some of my projects...
My issue is tedious tasks for such a small reward with some models. I want to do lots of props but such simple objects can be so damn tedious. I have ADHD and once my mind is like nope even though I know the workflow it wants to move on.
This may be a dumb question. Everytime I heard 3d artist I thought I don't relate to that. I have been doing the self tought route. schooling is expensive and I work a full time job. For me I don't really count myself as an artist. But when I see cool looking 3d creations I wonder how it was rigged how it moves if I created it how would I make it. I tend to lean towards more of the technical side of things of figuring out how things tick. the appeal to 3d is the sense of inventiveness. as a kid I wanted to be an inventor. The appeal in inventing a way to rig something is appealing to me. I do see some very cool rigs that are complicated. but if I start basic and see what can be done it all goes up from there. I guess with all my rambling. I often wonder if I am not the only one that does't vibe with the term artist or has a more of a drive to understand the technical more
Thank you for the video 😄, It's really kind of you to share your path with us. Greeting from Chile
Yeah, this hits home. i'm currently going back to school after giving up a cupel of times.
Hi JL Mussi you are the most down to earth person and motivates alot of new comers . I always watch your videos whenever I stucked in the maya. we are blessed that you are here for us to guide us and giving a proper knowledge realated to tools and the industry. thanks alot
Awesome! Thank you!
Happy New Year JL! I appreciate all your advice in this video.
Anytime Helen!
Hey JL Thanks for the video, Never give up. I always watching your videos, I like your advices & tips, keep the good work up.
Thanks for the kind words, brother!
Thanks man! I felt so frustrated after graduating in 3D Animation (a year ago). This is what I needed to keep going.
Glad I could help!
sir you just give me another hope! from few month im thinking about give up on my life , dont know is it a right place to say but however thank you sir
Thank you so much for sharing these experiences
I'm going through everything you talked about , and i feel like i stucked and i thought many times to give up
My biggest issue trying to get a job in the game industry are the recruiters. They are the most useless people on earth. The amount of times i ask for feedback and they give me nothing or say something completely irrelevant. It just kills my motivation and makes me think that graduates are screwed
I know there are a lot of people have worst er than me, but its just painful feeling hopeless even you did everything.
all i want to say The Modeling Beast Deserve a BIG CHEER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! honest man! keep on being Yourself!
Nice video... I can relate.. maybe its the instant gratification thats the root cause of everything...
I really needed to hear that. Thank you
the 'Anore' guy hits hard. seeming people you know die in front of you is less traumatizing than scam schools.... nice positive video and i feel it's all coming from experience.
Yea that story at end really encompases the struggles many artists face and the theme of the video.
You are very kind jlmussi
Some of the problems you forgot to list on this difficult journey of ours would be the following:
#1 Perfection: Where you as the artist just want to hop right out of the gate, you put so much pressure on yourself to make AAA quality stuff.
#2 Too much detail
#3 Lack of $$$ Right now due to the Situation we all went through the past couple years it has destroyed many many lives including mine to the point i am bankrupt, unemployed and im living with my parents unable to pay any of these debts and its a lot to go through. I would love to get back on top of the art wagon but first i need a Job so i can make some $$$. Once i have all of that $$$ than i can invest some of my $$$ into buying some of your courses/mentorships, also buy courses from 3DEX so i can greatly improve my 3d art skills because my skills really need help.
#4 The 4th problem of mine is how i personally learn is very different from other people i personally need both levels of help from a bit of Self taught+ a actual guy sitting right beside me in some fashion showing me what i am doing wrong, how i go about correcting it.
This is how i personally see this way way way back in the day during Medieval Times where there were Duels, Wars, Violence there were also Apprentices, Masters who would teach their fellow Man or Woman the way of making the Sword or making the Dress. In todays Modern World we have 100% lost all of that and have become extremely selfish, have become a corrupt Capatalistic society where nobody wants to help each other. What tends to happen these days is a guy like JL GEAR for example will create a course and go hey to get my help you must pay $2500 dollars for example. So you as the guy who needs help will reach out to the man when you have the funds and get completely scammed by the Fraud for example. What will also tend to happen is JL Gear will pull the ladder out from under themselves, sabotage you in the process so you dont get up to his level as they dont want more new people in the Space.
We now live in a society where you have Frauds, Criminals who dont want to help their fellow Man just improve their skills, build each other up which could create a better society. Just imagine we had more people helping each other out because you genuinely want to and your not asking for $$$ all the time. You would be able to create more jobs, other services where you could help more people learn all of these hard skills regardless of their income level or personal difficulties learning things.
I will apply to this masterclass, just watch and learn you talk about all this stuff i genuinely want to learn about but i wont be asking for any of your help until i can get my ship safely back onto the water without going overboard and also having $$$ back in my coffers.
how are you doing now? bro can we have a chat?
You have really valid points, and I don't wish to dissuade from that. The changes you describe would be good, especially in terms of what more apprenticeships & moral treatment could provide. I do want to say something for the sake of others that might read later.
Firstly, historical apprenticeships frequently came alongside mis-treatment. Yes, a different kind of opportunity existed -- and the physicality of it is rare to find now, but it wasn't simply "better" as it was. We lost something good, but a lot of bad things left with that system. Setting aside the many life circumstances that disqualified people from even being considered for an apprenticeship, here's a list of related historical negatives:
- Start life with a time debt, as a partially developed human, on someone else's decision. Simply leaving once you can reason wasn't a valid option.
- Physical abus3 as "teaching"
- Reproduce the Master's work perfectly, but the chance of becoming a Master is slim.
- Even as a Master, you make what people pay you to make.
- If the person that was supposed to pay you suddenly can't, you might be ruined for life.
- You made exactly what you were paid to make, but if the next person in power thinks it's a problem, they might take your life, or put you in jail -- depends on the mood.
- Apprentices were an investment in potential, and locked-in labor. As such, hopefully your parents picked a master that also thought you were a human, but it wasn't great odds.
Secondly, fraud is tragic. Not being able to learn because of the money required is also tragic. I would like to get the care for my health that I need. I can't because a roof over my head, and food, seems more necessary. A nurse shouldn't feel guilty for accepting pay in the current world. The nurse isn't less of a person for doing so. In the same way, the problem you're describing isn't because there aren't artists who want to help without charging. Guilt shouldn't be directed toward the wrong source. I'd like to say where it should be directed, but my comment might get blocked.
youre the best mussi❣
Things and other people will get in the way. Other important things. This is why you must build a schedule.
I've just graduated and it's extremely difficult trying to find a job. I feel like I've left uni with so many skills but none of them mastered. I really want this, and I hope I can get there.
Yeah I'm studying game art and it seems they really want you to be a generalist, I'm on second year. It's great for indie studios, not so much for bigger companies where they want specialized pros.
If eminem did 3d, he's be JL Mussi! You guys are a like in style! Its a compliment ;) from a new follower!
In the end i am having a great education but also a nagging about the path i want to chose . I am passionate about everything in the NPR-department . In many cases i now have to pursue the self taught route cause nobody has expertise in it . However the nagging about not to pursue npr because it would be to niche is extremely demotivating . What is also extremely overwhelming is not knowing how high the standards are to even get into the industry. from what i understand it is extremely high but not impossible ... having chosen a niche part will probably leave me not finding a job after the education ends for quite a while... i am stubborn though . knowing this will not stop me from pursuing this path. I am aware that the majority of jobs are in pbr content and less in the npr route but i wanna at least try my best to get in that industry. it's just extremely frustrating to encounter that this route is kinda seen as a taboo for most people to even talk about . Not just that it is also alienating to a point.
what do you suggest people to do when following this path ? and do you maybe know some listing sides to find potential employees other than art station ? Also what is your take about uploading the not so good work to sides like artstation as well ? (i only know artstation to be a good place for 3d ... there is deviantart but i don't think you get taken serious there when uploading content ) Some people i hear say to only upload your best 5 and keep the rest out of it ... and others say that consistency is more important than having good pieces. So you get two very conflicting point of views on how things should be approached. I am currently studying cg and vfx and before that i had no touching ground with anything art related ... i never had art class before starting to study cg and vfx and everything i knew about art was completely self-taught . so when i often compare myself to my classmates ... i feel myself being ... not good enough ... but then again there are some that are just very gifted ... but there is no exchange. with my style of npr i am pretty much an outsider and just mentioning it makes the others cringe. i also do not know of any community where you could exchange with others and learn from each other on this route to it .
So to summarize main frustrating points would be :
1) not knowing what exactly is expected to get into the industry
2) to be alienated by not following a common route that is either hyper-realistic or pixar level of stylization (which both uses pbr instead of npr ). And that npr especially when it comes to terms of Anime looks is seen as something bad .
I still continue to find 3d artist job for almost 2 years. This year will be the last year for me to find 3d job. If I unable to find a 3d job, I guess I have to give up soon.
Don't give up continue improving your 3d art skills
Did you find a one?
Hey how is life, how is your 3D journey going
Where do you get a 3D mentor? How does that work?
been a while. great video as always.
Getting into the video game industry it's a challenge, they ask too much for a 3D artist when a company has like 500 employees...
For me its motivation. I see images, stuff like I wana do/learn/create but I have no motivation to do it because I know it will not work out like this. Its a bit weird to explain xd
My biggest fear is AI. We already have models text to 3d. Yes now it's horrible, but we have example how it's can improve in 2d. I wanna learn 3d but my motivation after this so low.
me too
Do it but if you wanna do it solely for the money then don't but, if that's not the case then just do it and then for the money do something else. Art is beyond making a living for me it's expression and safe space and love.
Instead of being afraid of it embrace it. Incorporate it in your workflow. AI is here to stay and those who don't adapt will be left in the dust, it's the same as when 3d animation came out. In less than a year many 2d studios shut down and 3d ones thrived.
Don't give up to a stupid AI, that is not gonna happen in another 100 years
With it being so controversial I don't believe there won't be a balance to it with the stuff that actually works being put behind higher paywalls and a lot of "dissenters" who still want to do things the old fashioned way. The benefit of working with people too is that if you find the right people, you won't get pushed up to failure by having a bunch of yes men that don't pitch ideas of how to do new things and don't ever catch inconsistencies or things like that. If you took pride in your work and attached your name to it, and all it is is AI filler, that's basically an admission that you didn't put the effort in to learn the work yourself or outsource it to somebody who did, so it speaks really poorly for your character. And character is significant in any industry, much less an artistic one that literally involves creating characters. Learn it to learn without worrying about the state of the industry, and you'll probably get job worthy skills as a byproduct
Sometimes I look at my work and it just doesn't look good. It's not bad, much better than my first few attempts, but still. It's a bummer.
Hey, thanks for the video. I've been having issues with progressing and staying motivated as of late. You gave good advice actually.
PS - There's a typo at 26:12 for the word ' experiences'.
Great motivational video!
Making mistakes and I mean a lot of mistakes is what makes anyone confident.
Has anyone had experience with the cinema 4d course taught in School of Motion
Give up? Nah
I love my job, and gaming.
Thanks man
Glad you got some value out of this video.
Im getting ready to get automated
Awesome words
I've been doing 3d for about a year now, I can see the result, yes, the skill is changing, that's a fact, but I can't do something on my own, recently I made a model of a Soviet pilot headphones (ag-2), I did not finish it because I just did not feel I was doing it right, I am sure it looks bad, I can not improve, so I redo this model over and over. to get better results.
I love 3d, I am attracted to 3d, I enjoy it, but the abundance of information about the structure of creating 3d models for games is too overwhelming and you do not understand how to do it right and whether to continue, I myself am confused by these thoughts and now struggle with them, although I understand that in a year I could get used to it, apparently I am just stupid (now learned to do the chamfers through zbrush, but can not get used to them, I feel like the last scumbag who killed the subsurface and support edges).
I would like to add that it is also difficult to find like-minded people, yes there are many people in discord, in telegram, in twitter who are willing to communicate, and those who own discord channels are open to communication in videos, but when it comes to direct communication then here begins a complete mess, you not only meet a person who can help you with 3D, But also with his personality, And this is alarming, sometimes they become too disgusting One example, I will not name a youtuber, but the fact is that he has a discord channel, and I once asked for advice there, I really do not care about politics or anything, but people really think that if I'm Russian, then I'm trash and do not deserve development? Then how is a person who humiliates you better than "Russians", no one has ever insulted me in my life like he has
@@leptum6804 Sad! What's being a 'Russian' or 'Indian' got to do with learning anyway? There's enough of shit and hatred already. 😢 Too hard to make, too easy to criticize.
you are the best
The guy from the interview, you must be joking!!.. you've seen your friend die right in front of you in Afganistan and was less shaken then after doing courses..
good one
I don't like long explanations but, thank you anyway
So happy I woke up to this today, thank you for this awesome video! Every single one of the frustrations you talk about have been a part of my journey. I think the thing I struggle with the most is feeling "good enough" to start applying for the jobs I want. Hoping this year to finally take the plunge after I finish up a couple projects for the portfolio. Giving up is not an option when it comes to the things you love!
Hope you crush it in 2023 with your 3D Art! Thanks for this comment full of good vibes.
reason why they quit: because most of them spent a hurtful amount of money to obtain certificates and an impeccable reel just to find out graduate job offers as baffling as "renewable internship 2 years relevant previous experience required" which reeks like slavery laundering. Spending a fortune and years studying and working hard just to be exploited to oblivion and earn peanuts makes anyone without friends in high places want to quit.
They (we) quit because we are being treated below cashier level and will be treated worse if we ever get to reach the top, because the CEOs are no longer the oldest and best artists, but 20 year old money thirsty children placed by their babillionaire fathers. And this is why new movies look so bad, too.
Ur special boy❤
Im learning by my self too, but if you get a mentorship is great because you see thinks in dif way, but dont help a lot if you dont know what r you doing , its sad iknow but it is what it is. Also i a gree not worth it pay som uch money in school, like cgspectrum or other schools. I actually pay vertexschool with mentorship, but like i say doesnt matter if you suck, they can point you 1000 things and still be bad sucker xD. until now i still suck and im shit. But i keep going.
you think you are alone
you want to quit i was about to destroy my computer with a hammer
youre not alone
THANK you BEAST
so men i like you give me a Momentum to keep on!
THANK YOU
love it
and even if u are good at artistic and techicall side, u still think studio will hire u amongs dosens of other 3d artist who has the same skills ,good at both :)
topology.
Man, the way you speak just like a rapper,
soon thanks to Ai with just a voice prompt and no modelling lessons a 6 year old will be able to make instantly what you've just spent months of your life on
why even bother anymore when AI is going to replace us all anyway
Yup that's what I'm thinking after using CHATGPT ...people think AI is gonna be a great opportunity for them but they don't know there job are on stake
This defeatist attitude is not going to help in any way...
Regarding the AI stuff, yes, it will impact every industry. I work as a freelancer, and I can tell you that clients are using AI to create images instead of directly contacting me for pitching ideas. In my opinion, my freelance rates will decrease, and the workload for one artist will increase. It's better to become exceptionally good at what you do and embrace AI as an ally...
There is also a well-paying retouching job in my area that involves machine learning. I didn't take the job, but many retouchers have accepted it. Ultimately, it is the people who determine the market, not the company, in my opinion...
It is not hard just use ready made models. hahaha. Never give up.
this channel is underf#ckingratted
yes, i also change my way from zero to hero i was an electrical and electronic engineer and was in business but all hope was to go down so i jump in 3d 2022 & got a job.
i have never done any courses just watch all 3d artist videos on the channel and learn every day still learning
keep in mind it's all about workflow and good topology.
Currently, I'm playing the role of a 3d artist and texturing artist in superdna3dlab.
Keep pushing!
@@jlmussi ya sure, also waiting for your free course to learn something new 😍
@@divyang3Dart9289 Pay some money and learn Dude. 😇
@@topgunpilot2547 by watching RUclips videos I also did my duty dude but in the future, I have a plan(don't want to disclose)
First! Where's my Crown King!