Why Stopping Counterplay Is So Important

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  • Опубликовано: 27 окт 2024

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  • @nonemo138
    @nonemo138 2 года назад +102

    When you consider this from a more mathematical perspective it does make a lot of sense. Normally you control 16 pieces. Any chance of winning you have involves a combination of these pieces. If you can start controlling your opponent's pieces too, you stand a much better chance of creating winning positions.

    • @zyrith9475
      @zyrith9475 2 года назад +3

      I know you mean this in a different way than what I am about to say and that it is completely irrelevant to the comment, but on further thought sometimes better chances are unnecessary and prove to be a waste of time. It is interesting how we humans consciously can only think about a couple of things at once or might miss stuff. Scary. Forgive me for my input, I just can't help myself.
      Edit: Even now I missed something and that was to say that there is a perspective or a way of thinking about something, and on the other hand, albeit also a perspective, it is because you don't think about the full picture just bits and pieces of it.
      Edit 2: I suppose I wrote this because you seem to have interest in thinking about things differently and so do I, so maybe it is somewhat relevant.
      Do I appear as if I were high as a kite? 🤣

  • @meanderingmarley3910
    @meanderingmarley3910 2 года назад +114

    The mark of a good teacher is the willingness to use his own mistakes as teaching points.
    Thanks for another great video!

    • @723skierbob
      @723skierbob 2 года назад +1

      Yes, that is one of Nelson’s strong points!

    • @3trilogy
      @3trilogy 2 года назад +1

      Makes me feel better because ...Rc7, was the move I would have played, but as Nelson pointed out ...c4 is a much better move.

    • @cfgauss71
      @cfgauss71 2 года назад +5

      He really is incredible. The other chesstubers just make fun of their opponents while crushing them.

    • @RobertSolovay
      @RobertSolovay 2 года назад

      @@723skierbob q

  • @LBurou
    @LBurou 2 года назад +28

    I like your explanations and understandable delivery. Complete thoughts at a reasonable tempo, easy to follow.

    • @gjits5307
      @gjits5307 2 года назад

      skip 7:30 to 8:20 to gain a tempo

  • @cfgauss71
    @cfgauss71 2 года назад +15

    The immediate takeaway value from these videos far exceeds that from any other channel out there.

  • @RikMaxSpeed
    @RikMaxSpeed 2 года назад +14

    Love these very honest genuine game reviews, and the lessons learnt! A1 content with no nasties.

  • @joachimfrank4134
    @joachimfrank4134 2 года назад +24

    The move c4 wins a "virtual" rook, because it's taking the rook out of the game. I didn't think much about what counterplay the rook would generate on the other side of the board. I just thought: Oh a free rook.

    • @mikecantreed
      @mikecantreed 2 года назад +1

      Rb8 and go for trades seems like a plan

    • @kamalofdeka
      @kamalofdeka 2 года назад

      @@mikecantreed and that's not a free rook.simply tempo loss.

  • @PrimusInvin
    @PrimusInvin 2 года назад +10

    Nelson its all good. Its only a blitz game online after all. Of course if you missed it in classical that'd be different(I'm roughly your classical rating equal) but in blitz its no big worry. Thanks for uploading so regularly, it really helps me teach the local sub 1ks. Stay sharp and play smart!

  • @Axame1
    @Axame1 2 года назад +5

    Another example of this is playing a pawn move to avoid back rank mate in a winning position. You eliminate counterplay and dont even give yourself the chance to blunder it.

    • @mikekeenan8450
      @mikekeenan8450 2 года назад +1

      Many a clever plan has run afoul of the humble corridor mate...

  • @FloydMaxwell
    @FloydMaxwell 2 года назад +2

    Great illustration of your point. That pawn to c4 move kills black's counter chances very effectively.

  • @marcusbarugh919
    @marcusbarugh919 2 года назад +3

    It was a nice recovery on your part despite the blunder.

  • @iviano1149
    @iviano1149 2 года назад +10

    at 8:30, instead of just rushing the queen, couldnt you as white first move one of the rooks up instead (after pawn is at c7) and now if black queens you just take the rook and then queen? Likewise if they take your rook you can queen with no problems.

    • @00modey9500
      @00modey9500 2 года назад

      the proplem is that black can play rook to c1 to move the rook from the pawn way and attacking the white pawn in the same time even if you block with the knight then when he queen he will have bishop rook and a queen attacking a defenseless king

    • @ZdenekMicke69
      @ZdenekMicke69 2 года назад

      they can just play 1. Rb8 Re1+ 2. Kd3 Kh7 3. Rxf8 h1=Q 4. Rh8+ Kxh8 5. c8=Q+ Kh7

  • @craigtimmons6907
    @craigtimmons6907 2 года назад +1

    Excellent example and explanation.

  • @jonwill
    @jonwill 2 года назад +2

    Excellent presentation; thank you for sharing.

  • @hueycotton
    @hueycotton 2 года назад +3

    I make this mistake a lot in general. I get so wrapped up in my own plan that I forget to stop theirs. Chess is hard, man

  • @robertteague6342
    @robertteague6342 2 года назад +2

    No, when your pawn was one spot away from being a queen you move either rook up one spot first and force your opponent to take your rook with his rook and then you take his rook with your pawn and get your queen.

  • @Hanansabz007
    @Hanansabz007 2 года назад +6

    I love your videos. Keep up the great work. But I wanted to ask if you can make a video on how to get past the 750-800 rating

    • @benjaminatkinson5328
      @benjaminatkinson5328 2 года назад +1

      Keep watching... Keep playing!

    • @darrylkassle361
      @darrylkassle361 2 года назад +1

      His made such vids already just browse thru the older ones.
      Here is onea you might be interested in~
      ruclips.net/video/jUuAKuoD0xg/видео.html

    • @VenomousCompany
      @VenomousCompany 2 года назад +2

      700-800 elo players are not as bad at chess as people think they are. Many do have a decent understanding of chess.
      The different between say an 700 elo and 1600 elo is actually not that massive. It's just tiny differences.
      Just practising and playing =)

    • @darrylkassle361
      @darrylkassle361 2 года назад +1

      Also as a part of helping with that check.out his video on preventing blunders

    • @Tempergaming69
      @Tempergaming69 2 года назад

      @@VenomousCompany Sorry but I disagree, I am 1600 and I can fcking beat a 700-1000 player all day long without losing even with rook odds.
      I'm saying this based on experience coz I have 8 dummy/smurf accounts for the sole purpose of trolling and having fun against low rated players.
      I even play only on the side of the board and not caring about the center and I almost always win
      I lose 1/20 games,
      if 700-1000 elo are my opponents.

  • @zBrain0
    @zBrain0 2 года назад +1

    I'm pretty happy I found c4 fairly quickly. It's questionable though whether or not I would have found it without the prompting of preventing my opponent's counterplay.

  • @frarf8717
    @frarf8717 2 года назад

    Whoa when did you hit over 100 hundred thousand subs dude that’s crazy congratulations

  • @jrviade85
    @jrviade85 2 года назад +1

    8:21 rook check!! I guessed that correctly! 😌
    and since you said its more advanced then I feel really good about it :)

  • @chikezienestor3394
    @chikezienestor3394 2 года назад

    Sir Nelson, I always love your deep analysis on chess, and you also learn from your past mistakes.
    Thanks so much.

  • @Mehtibbers
    @Mehtibbers 2 года назад

    Been watching your videos for months now, sub.ed today..To be honest but:
    It would be nice if you could mention obvious moves like Rc8 at 7:34 - 7:35 it seems natural, might be bad i see no problems with it... At 2:37 seems lost, elaborate on how you would be "really careful." , if you can.
    Other then that I hardly see any problems with your presentations, They're short to the point drawing attention where and when it's needed. You have the best chess channel on youtube i swear , thanks for sharing so many obscure positions and tactics for free! Love it.

  • @daleleisenring4275
    @daleleisenring4275 2 года назад

    The endgame shows what often happens with blitz, bullet and lightning games. The opponent wins in a lost game because he proved he can push a button faster than you, even though you are the better player. Why not just get two controllers (any kind will do, remember you're only winning at pushing buttons fastest.) and get timers with REAL accuracy down to the picosecond!) POINT? The fastest gun in the west also has to prove he is the most accurate shot! With a mere 59 years playing the game of kings, as slow as I am to young whippersnappers, I could tell instantly that all those pawns will beat a rook with the king positions.

  • @nlb137
    @nlb137 2 года назад

    Would g3 have been a decent move there, as well? That seems like it'd prevent the rook from coming over; from the 4th rank, a pawn on g3 prevents the rook from coming to f4 or h4 and attacking either of the other two pawns, while they in turn protect the g pawn.

  • @michaelmurray7472
    @michaelmurray7472 2 года назад

    Great video, do you go over the majority of your losing games to improve as a player nelson?

  • @krot464
    @krot464 2 года назад +1

    Always fun to watch!

  • @5-iwnl-596
    @5-iwnl-596 2 года назад +1

    I was thinking of rook c4! But c4 is better, keeps all attacking chances without sacrificing defense.

  • @mattgiguere5638
    @mattgiguere5638 2 года назад

    Nice new light effects 👍

  • @gundjaloneko5731
    @gundjaloneko5731 2 года назад

    Instead of c4, white should play Nb6 with attack on rook, with tempo, and after that move knight to c4 with Nc4, with same result but with better position of the knight. Nobody likes knight on the edge of the board.

  • @SimbaUdaullah1489
    @SimbaUdaullah1489 2 года назад +2

    Can you make videos on Mikhail Tal games

  • @eitan367
    @eitan367 2 года назад

    Seems like preventing counterplay and preventing the opponents plans or thinking about your opponent's plans before your own go hand in hand. Perhaps a thin line could we say?

  • @ddawson100
    @ddawson100 2 года назад

    What would have happened if black @2:51, instead of taking the queen with queen took the rook with bishop. I think that would have changed the game because then you’d be a piece down.

  • @morganshook3168
    @morganshook3168 2 года назад

    Love the videos! If you suspend your RUclips plaque behind your left shoulder with some eye bolts from the ceiling it will free up your sweet king and queen plus hide the clutter. Take some pride in your deserved achievement and show it off. Thanks man!

  • @darrylkassle361
    @darrylkassle361 2 года назад +1

    This comes under prophylaxis yeah???

  • @robfhh
    @robfhh 2 года назад

    The best chess teacher👍👍

  • @chris92264
    @chris92264 2 года назад +1

    Ok what to be better in chess

  • @BabitaKumari-hk9ci
    @BabitaKumari-hk9ci 2 года назад

    8:40 what about moving the either of the white's rook to the eight rank

  • @Moiaija
    @Moiaija 2 года назад

    What counterplay is?

  • @funnyhappypopcorn
    @funnyhappypopcorn 2 года назад

    what about nb6 and nc4 the next move instead of c4?

  • @jmdyc
    @jmdyc 2 года назад +3

    It is always that one move you miss that trips you up.

  • @jeffskotz8701
    @jeffskotz8701 2 года назад

    What about rook to e1 in the beginning check mate

  • @blume9559
    @blume9559 2 года назад

    at 8:29, wouldn't rook d8 be a good move? they cant stop you from getting a queen

    • @thedeadbaby
      @thedeadbaby 2 года назад

      Re1 and continually hound the king. black king can escape on h7

    • @IngTomT
      @IngTomT 2 года назад

      Rc1

  • @pnachtwey
    @pnachtwey 2 года назад

    I thought C4 was obvious. Did the computer find C4?

  • @clintongryke6887
    @clintongryke6887 2 года назад

    Oh. Nice.

  • @IngTomT
    @IngTomT 2 года назад

    6:25 What about Be5?

    • @ZdenekMicke69
      @ZdenekMicke69 2 года назад

      1. ... Be5 2. Ra7 Rxa7 3. Rxa7 Rxf2 4. h3 Bf4+ 5. Kd1 Rd2+ 6. Ke1 Rxc2 7. Rxa6

  • @rdwivedi1810
    @rdwivedi1810 2 года назад

    Kb6 was the move

  • @welcometoparacosm926
    @welcometoparacosm926 2 года назад

    when i was looking at the thumbnail i thought about g3

  • @incessantyoutuber9318
    @incessantyoutuber9318 2 года назад

    If you can learn from your WINS, noone can stop you. I can't even learn from my losses