Anne Hutchinson: Religious Dissenter (Religious Freedom in Colonial New England: Part III)
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- Religious Freedom in Colonial New England (Part III)
Anne Hutchinson: Religious Dissenter
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In the final segment of my lecture on Religious Freedom in Colonial New England, I tell the story of Anne Hutchinson, a religious dissenter in the Massachusetts Colony who challenged gender roles and the Puritan leadership by leading Bible studies, advocating antinomianism, and claiming to be able to see the elect. Like Roger Williams before her, Anne Hutchinson was exiled from Massachusetts. She followed Williams to Rhode Island with 60 of her followers, then went on to New Netherland, where she and her children were massacred by Indians.
This content fits into the so called APUSH Period 2 and can be found in Chapter 2 or Chapter 3 of most APUSH textbooks.
Roger Williams and Anne Hutchinson are certainly two heroes that are often not given enough credit today.
AGREED! Hopefully, this series gave them a little bit of the credit they deserve.
Hey @Mr Beat maybe you can compare them!
Anne Hutchinson is no hero lol just a self glorifying Wackjob against the bible. People are so spaced out. 🙄
Why couldn't my school teachers make history this interesting? I like how there is a brief, yet deep dive into each topic There's no time to get bored and the lessons put together give you a much clearer picture of early America than the boring old history books we were given in school. The presentation moves at a quick pace with plenty of visuals. Whatever class this is, I'm a new student now.
Because teaching is a separate skill set that most professors fail to master even with PHDs.
She is my tenth great grandmother. I approve of your message. Thank you for sharing this with everyone.
Queens in your family huh
Litty
Heyyyy she’s my twelfth great grandmother (:
She's also my 10x great-grandmother.
I just found out I'm a direct descendent of her too!
She's my 8th - hey there relative 😍
One thing that should also be mentioned is that not ALL of her children were murdered in that attack in Split Rock, New Netherlands. One of her grandsons was the Governor in Boston (if I recall correctly as far as city) prior to the Revolutionary War. Thomas Hutchinson was a loyalist and defected to Canada. Some of the Hutchinsons in later generations eventually moved back into the US around Michigan.
Okay. At first I wondered, “Why Anne Hutchinson?” She seemed a little, well, strange. But I get your point: Religious dissenters helped to spread freedom of religion.
Thank you so much for posting this. I was having a hard time reading my literarure book on Anne Hutchinson and Roger William. I went to RUclips to see if there was something that could explain it better and in simpler terms, and I found your videos! This is helping me write a paper on God's will verses man's will for my American Literature class, so thank you sooooooo much!
I have to write a research report on the puritans and since Anne Hutchinson was so important it was only necessary that I add her.
The video helped me understand her purpose in America's history even though I am in Canada, not even studying this topic but having to because it is a part of our curriculum.
@@tanisha2659 sorry to be late on this but read the comment of Logos media and the woman who wrote about Ann being her Great Grandmother. No idea.
Great video, the best explanation of Anne Hutchinson and her beliefs I have seen or heard, I use it for my home school students. They are very interested in her self proclaimed ability to 'see' the elect.
+Ian Harrison Thanks for the kind words. I'm always glad to help home schooling students and parents!
Never heard of Anne Hutchinson until today!
Even though she wouldn't like my heathen atheist self I'm glad she did what she did because of what I believe it led to.
A person of principle can be an inspiration to any person of principle.
Tom Richey well said.
Tom! Hope you're doing well. This video will help me and my students next week. Great to see you here.
Around 2010 new Christian I asked God for a revaluation he told me, "everyone that's going to be saved has already been saved"
Then he lead me to scripture to back it.
I had never heard of Calvinism
I really couldn't read at the time, I learn to read, reading the Bible. Campos4Christ.
Thank you for actually making this interesting to listen to🙌🏽
I'm not even Christian. But Williams and Hutchinson are heroes to me nonetheless.
Good and concise history of Roger and Ann and how incredibly important they were and are to us still
Ann and husband were the co founders of Rhode Island. One of the 13 original colonies and eventually states. How can you brush over such a legacy. Also, because of the chaos she created the Mass Colony allocated dollars to immediately build a college to better prepare Puritan pastors in the future. That college was Harvard University.
She is my 13th Great Grandmother. Her son in law was Wampage I or “John White” my 12th Great Grandfather who was the Chief of the Siwanoy tribe.
Paul's comments against women speaking in church may have been aimed at the Artemis cult. In Acts chapter 19, it talks about the cult of Artemis (a female diety) who kept shouting: "Great is Artemis of the Ephesians" so loud that they all had to be told to calm down. Maybe Paul found a way to shut up any female followers of Artemis in churches. This is just my guess as to the explanation.
It was precisely aimed at that element in the early Church. Nicolaitan heresies borrowing from fertility cults would creep into some of the locations of the early Church, and often used the guise of female instructors to "sweeten the deal" for more women to participate in. Paul was desperately trying to nip these underground movements in the bud.
Anne Hutchinson is my 10x great-grandmother.
You know how many people claim things like that
That’d make you my 10th Cousin 3x Removed! Hi cuz!
I just mentioned Anne today in my APUSH class. Great video Tom...keep up the good work!
I am also a direct descendant of Roger Williams. So interesting to learn more about this man.
Anne is more than this Story she was in my opinion a Leader of her Beliefs and Truth and was a strong influence on religious freedom
Thank you for making this wonderful video about my 10th grandmother. She is a hero that needs more attention. (:
Anne Hutchinson is also my 10th great grandmother (like one of your commenters below) however not only am I in disagreement with your description of her life and trial but I am greatly angered by it! In this day and age here this incredibly intelligent and strong women is being call crazy by the likes of yourself, I can see things in this country have hardly changed!
For those of you using this video to homeschool your children, if you do then please correct the misinformation he puts forth in this video and let it be known to your children that even today in 2018 that not only are women of intellect still being called crazy but her very spiritual relationship with God is also being called into question. What is even more disturbing is the fact that he is also attempting to present this very inaccurate reciting of historical facts (loosely) in a manner which is attempting to educate.
Furthermore the fact that he simply states that Anne and her children were killed by “Indians” is another assault on historical facts that are very worth mentioning in this account considering that the ostracism of her family by these wealthy and self preserving men who sought to not only subjugate all women but the Native Americans as well, created an absolute nightmare for both these groups (the ones who followed Anne and her husband and the Native Americans).
Here are the very important facts, just a few of which are extremely important if we are expected to learn from our mistakes so that history doesn’t repeat itself.
1. Anne wasn’t crazy she was on record by many of the other colonialist as being highly educated and more knowledgeable than any man residing within the colonies and sitting as judges. It went on record then and still stands today that she indeed won the argument against her in court even though she stood before a group of men alone and with no legal council she out argued every one of them and never wavered in her testimony. Not only did she put their arguments to shame, her knowledge was more vast and her statements concerning the issue couldn’t be disputed with any factual information present within the court.
2. To present Anne Hutchinson as if she were crazy because she said she heard the word of the lord, which is considered spiritual enlightenment and today we hear of people around the world who believe they are enlightened by spirituality or the word of the lord and of many religions and yet you choose to in the same breath speak of the religious freedom these people came to this country to enjoy while at the same time saying Anne was crazy!?!?! You don’t even have what her beliefs concerning the issue correct and if you are going to portray yourself as an educator, especially when factual information actually exists you should use the facts to present the entirety of what was said and what her actual beliefs were instead of simply saying she was crazy and you are shocked so many people chose to follow this crazy women into the wild! You are simply perpetuating the same kind of judgmental and ignorance based crime against her that she endured during her time. And I have to say sir, how dare you!
3. You also chose to leave out the fact that she and her husband and their followers were sane enough to peacefully negotiate the purchase of what would later become Rhode Island and founded what would later be known as Providence. They did this in peace with the Natives and were living peacefully with the Natives as their neighbors without incident. Something the other colonist can’t claim their were capable of.
4. You stated that the issues with the area Indians were the demise of her and her 13 children which is another untruth and twisting of the facts. What factually happened was once again another horrific event brought on by the evil doing and murderous behavior that was was typical of the leaders within the colonies. I have to pause here to say that the beliefs of these men were sadistic and based on pure evil that were drawn upon the oppression and subjugation of others for their own greedy and power hungry gains! Anyone who disagrees with that fact needs to go over the transcripts of the Salem witch trials and the other atrocities designed by these same sick and twisted men. What truly happened to Anne and her children, 5 of whom were indeed slaughtered, was brought on by revenge after another local tribe of over 200 Native Americans were slaughtered by the Dutch settlers of New Netherlands. This tribe didn’t know Anne or her family firsthand but they were aware of her and her family and when they realized it was her and her children that had been mistaken for the Dutch settlers who slaughtered the Native Americans over the land they sought to steal from them in a very un-peaceful manner, the Native Americans were horrified by the tragic mistake and even took in her last daughter whom they raised until she was 16. When her siblings purchased her from the Native Americans, Susanna didn’t want to leave the Native Americans because they had loved her and treated her so well. So you simultaneously have bastardized two groups of people and called my 10th great grandmother crazy while attempting to educate people on how great she was!
This type of teaching is the reason we still have issues to this day with racism and oppression. If you can’t see what you have done here is wrong then you need to reevaluate yourself and understand it’s not ok to simply dismiss a great leader who was both brilliant and stronger than any man within that colony who felt the same way she did but was afraid to stand up and speak out!
Furthermore the fact that everyone who recounts this story would also like to dismiss her husband as a man who simply did as he was told and bowed to the whims of his wife is simply insulting to the core. This man was a leader within the colonies right up to the time they were ostracized and it took great character and strength on his part to stand by his incredible wife and to also stand up for what were also his beliefs. Especially during a time and place were women were locked away or flogged for not pleasing their husband much less having a public opinion.
In fact the sad narrative of this entire tale is that it wouldn’t have had the same outcome if he hadn’t been married at all or he alone had spoken out for what was right. It’s only because Anne was a women who spoke out for what was right that the story is being told or had the tragic outcome that it did because they used the fact that she was a female to ostracize her and her followers and it wasn’t likely to happen if it had all been said or done by a man like Cotton Mather for instance whom Anne and all her followers supported so clearly their thinking was along the same lines! Yet even after his involvement with the Salem witch trials he has gone down in history as a hero instead of a lunatic who believed humans could be possessed by demons using witchcraft which sounds far crazier than believing you have been enlightened by your savior.
In short, you neglect the facts, insult the heroic actions of my grandmother by whittling it all down to her being crazy, and then whitewash the attack by the Native Americans who were also victims of these insanely sadistic settlers! We see the same types of behavior that these men have passed down from generation to generation all the way down to the likes of you who just called my grandmother crazy and Native Americans savages!
To the other person on this thread who also claims to be related, SHAME ON YOU! You should have better judgement about yourself than to ever say what this man has said about our family has your stamp of approval! Get out of here with that sheepish crap! Have some dignity about your heritage and don’t let others tread on the memory of your ancestors.
Anne Hutchinson is the most well known woman in American history and she was well known for all the right things! Our family who descended from her surviving children went on to do many great things including leading Washington across the Delaware, this is the legacy that along with her husband, her greatness produced. Never let anyone refer to her as crazy again!
You had “history” now you also have “herstory”! It’s a lot more accurate and a lot less whitewashed than history is!
Ricki Landers I, too, am a descendant of Anne Hutchinson on my dad's side.
Anybody have proof of your statements?
@@stephcom8133 Does anyone have actual proof of these statements?
@@marysunshine2027 I have to find the sourcing, but one I have on hand is an article written by Debra Michels, PhD. Anne was NOT, in fact, "crazy", but definitely very bold for her time. Then again, that is how she was raised. Her father was a dissident minister who saw to her education as if she were a son rather than a daughter...something extremely unheard of in that time as women were regarded as ornaments of a man. She didn't have quite the formal education, though, but was taught to read and think critically.
There is so much more, but here is a link: www.womenshistory.org/education-resources/biographies/Anne-Hutchinson
Anne, Roger Williams, Israel Stoughton, John Leverett and about 90% of the settlers of the Bay Colony were all religious and political Independents as opposed to Presbyterians.
For practical reasons, the magistrates in the Bay Colony needed unity of opinion and the support of both their particular sponsors in England and of Parliament in general much more than they needed diversity of opinion on highly technical religious matters because the Thirty Years War was still raging on the Continent and was about to spread to England in the form of the English Civil Wars of the 1640s. Further, the New England colonies faced real and potential threats from the Dutch to the south, the French to the north and the Algonquins and Iroquois to the north and west.and south. As things were in 1636, the Presbyterians were the dominant force in Parliament and the Bay Colony's Independent sponsors in England were aligning themselves with the Presbyterians in anticipation of civil war. Accordingly, the Independents in the Bay Colony felt compelled to track as closely to Presbyterianism as possible.
Thus, while the Massachusetts magistrates knew both Anne and Williams were more right than wrong, they still needed to be officially suppressed and exiled to either New Hampshire across the Merrimack River, to Rhode Island or to Long Island. In hindsight, the magistrates were correct. By 1646, after winning the first war against the monarchists, the Presbyterians and Independents had fallen out. The Independents won the second civil war against the Presbyterians at Preston in 1648 and went on to abolish the monarchy and the House of Lords and form the Commonwealth and then the Protectorate. Republicanism then failed in old England because the Independents just could not agree on anything.
In England, Independents very much like Anne and Williams dominated New Model Army, the Leveller movement and the Rump Parliament but they were never able to form a stable constitutional democratic republic. They were startlingly modern in their religious and political thought, which was roughly 200 years ahead of their time. That particular weakness in unrestrained religious and political Independency needs to be recognized before condemning the Massachusetts magistrates for their handling of both Anne and Williams. On his death bed, John Winthrop continued to regret the necessity of exiling Anne Hutchinson and Roger Williams.
But Independency survived and matured in New England. It is the ur-source of American republicanism and it precipitated the American Revolution in 1774-5.
I’m a direct descendant of the Townsends who founded Oyster Bay, Long Island (they came to the New World in the 1630s). They were Quakers and two of the three brothers - Henry and John, if I remember correctly - were signatories to the Flushing Remonstrance (1657), which is considered a precursor to the Freedom of Religion clause in the 1st Amendment. At the time, the Dutch Reformed were in power in New Amsterdam (now NYC), where Peter Stuyvesant was in power, and not exactly kind to the Quakers.
Through John, I am also related to Robert Townsend who was Culper Jr. in George Washington’s Culper Spy Ring, and his sister, Sarah, who is believed to have overheard and reported conversation that led to the discovery of Benedict Arnold as a traitor. She is also believed to have been the recipient of the very first Valentine’s Day card - from a British officer, no less - here in the US.
Love learning about US history and our religious history. A descendant of Quakers who is a Reformed Presbyterian. Gasp! LOL!
I like this guys accent! I feel like I have heard from him before!
Sounds like theo von if he'd finished school
That the Soul is Saved 100% by Grace, and NOT by good works, is the foundation of my Faith!
Christ Jesus done the “Good Works,” and my Salvation “inspires” good works, because I am truly free, and truly reborn.”
Even though I didn’t deserve it. I simply asked, accepted, and “Received.”
Christ Jesus Died That All May Be Saved, Whom Ever Believed In Him.
John Chapter 3: Verse 16
So very interesting and well done!!!
8th Grade U.S. history teacher here. So since it's common knowledge that Anne mopped the floor with the in-depth biblical attack questions thrown at her by the prosecuting men of her trial, obviously the II Timothy 2 Scripture would have been the go-to attack of choice to use against her. Do we know how she used the Bible to parry that attack?
Make a new segment on the Indian Wars like the Beaver Wars, early struggles of colonial America and the French & Indian War!
This is such an informational video. Thanks a ton, kind sir!
Great Video! Thank You. that forest Gump impersonation was spot-on hahaha
Tom can you do a video on the Anabaptist rebellion in Munster as it is not well known in the U.S. or even outside Germany and its a crazy series of events.
I'll take this under consideration. I've considered doing a video on European Anabaptists but I'll be focusing on larger topics this year with my European History videos. It's way past time for me to get my lectures on the Stuarts and the Enlightenment recorded. Both of these will be major endeavors released in several installments.
1:51 This verse, taken out of context, is not Biblical. Anyone's words taken out of context can be misused and incorrectly applied to suit any situation.
Glad I'm not the only one who thought this. Thank you!
Wow. I am a fan of Quakers. I recently learned who Roger Willaims is, and I think he is cool. In this video I learned who Anne Hutchenson is. It took me time to warm up to her, but I did by the end of the video. I can talk about the three points in three paragraphs. I am watching all three videos on religious freedom in America. They are good. I would like to watch the Quaker video on the channel next.
First part is the gender. I like it when strong females challenge the patriarchy. I am a major feminist that way. So that is one appealing thing about Ann Hutchenson. I like the founders of feminist movements. In the Roger Williams video, I advocated taking separation of church and state even further. It is where the church can't dictate the morality of the state. Christian morality is too outdated and out of touch to work in modern times. I used a recent court case on abortion as an example on how morality mixing can go wrong. I am pro choice. People should have the right to make decisions over thier own reproduction. A woman should make choices about thier pregnancy. It is wrong for the government to put control over it just because the Bible said so. Choice is even a happy medium between banning abortion and forcing abortion.. However I got to give my pro life opponents some credit. They do sound pretty reasonable by advocating the right of the baby for life. That is a good point. Child welfare is a legitimately important thing to consider. I am concerned about what the baby's life will be like after birth. Child neglect is a serious issue. It is wrong to deprive children and make them suffer for days or even years. I think it is more humane to abort a baby right away then to have it born in an environment where it is not properly cared for. In this dire case, abortion can even be mutually beneficial. The mother is the best person to make the call. She can get input from the father and potential guardians, but this shouldn't be too forceful. It is very rare that I hear about the baby's welfare after birth be addressed in the abortion discussions. There was a time I first seen someone express this issue other than me. It blew my mind. This was in a brochure in a Planned Parenthood clinic of all places. That was amusing. Make of that what you will. We can debate the nuances of abortion. We can debate other complex women's issues. These are things like birth control, domestic violence, wage gap and media representation. The issue of Anne Hutchenson is not one of these things. This is just a very basic and simple thing. Should women be equal to men? Should woman be allowed to have authority over men and women? Any feminist worth thier salt, heck any decent person worth thier salt for that matter, should be able to give the right answer easily. Yes! Of course women should be equal to men. Of course they should have access to authority. I mean duh! Then this video gives a Bible quote that women are forbidden to have a position of authority. Wow! Yikes! That is bad. That is horrible. This is worse than being pro life. This is so much worse. I did critisize the Bible for being outdated and out of touch. Then this glorious example fell into my lap. There is absolutely no way to defend this verse. There is no way to find any good benefit to this besides the Bible said so. This is very blatant sexism here. If the Bible can't keep up with basic feminism, than it has failed. If I didn't know any better, I would say the Puritans were full blown misogynist. I knew sexism was a problem in the olden days. Yet it baffles me how extreme it gets sometimes.. Dude don't get me started on the Victorian Era.. Yikes! I am even wondering if women are even allowed to have a friendly chat with thier peers in church. Women do this all the time in church these days, and nobody bats an eye. What's next? Should we teach the six day creation of the Bible in science class, and ignore mountains of evidence for evolution and old earth? Should we always avoid pork and shellfish for being non kosher, despite technological advancements in food safety? Should we own slaves, because the Bible said how to treat them. Oh crap! Not slavery. Yeah. The Bible has plenty of morals that are messed up. If Anne Hutchenson did go against the patriarchy, she was 100% in the right.
The main part of Anne Hutchenson is her view on salvation. This does seem unpleasent at first. I like salvation by works and not by grace. Salvation by works keeps people accountable for thier actions. It doesn't enable harmful actions or hypocrisy. I like Armenian better than Calvinism. Having salvation availiable to everyone and not just an elite few is more fair and just. This is what a benevolent God would do, even if he did have the omniscience to know who will be saved. So since Anne Hutchensin is into salvation by grace and Calvinism, this seems unpleasent. Then while watching the video, I got more context. I think the execution was actually good. Salvation by works is harmful if it done to an extreme. It can be used to justify harsh restrictions on life style of the followers. One little mistepmof action would cause salvation. In my opinion, the worst Christian groups have this harsh restriction. This includes Amish, Mennonite, Jehovah Witness, Seventh Day Adventist, Christian Science and Mormon. Puritans were definitely doing this sort of thing. So teaching salvation by grace is a good thing, because it eases the restrictions. So what Anne Huchenson was a good thing within the context of oppressive Puritan society. She benefitted the people, and that is nice. There was some other Christian leader who used grace to reach out to the disadvantaged in a nice way. I don't exactly remember which one it was. This may have been the Methodist guy, John Wesley. The Calvinism part is intriguing. This is a bad idea in theory. Puritans take this idea and make it into horrendous execution and practice. There is strict control given to lifestyle in attempt to prove one is the predestined elite. It is just bad overall. I like the Anglicans way more than the Puritans. The main appeal is the attempt to balance Catholocism and Protestantism, and getting a good well rounded denomination as a result. Looking back, I kind of wish the Anglicans got more control over Puritans. I don't condone any slaughter, torture or other violence. I would just like Anglicans to show restraint to the Puritans so there are no toxic ideas of lifestyle control. It is best to relax. One can even enjoy fancy church rituals like the Catholics. One cool thing about Ann Hutchenson is that she essentially uses the Calvinism of Puritins against then. The reasoning is that God pretermins the elite, therefore people can do whatever they want without affecting thier salvation. Salvation by grace come in, and that happens to the elite. This gives justification for freedom. That is very clever. Both Williams and Hutchenson are great figures for religious freedom. I find that they approach freedom in slightly different ways. Williams advocates freedom of the belief and practice of religion itself. Hutchenson advocates freedom of the lifestyle of people in the religion. She at least gives strong implications for free lifestyle. Both freedoms are important to overcome the tyranny of the Puritans.
The final part of Ann Hutchenson is her divine vision. It is wierd. I am not sure what to think of it. I have mixed feelings on claims of divine gifts. It really depends on the execution. I like the calm silent worshop of the Quakers. They come across as dignified, healthy and insightful. On the other hand, I don't like the dramatic speaking tongues, laying hands and other acts of the Pentecostals. They come across as wild and crazy. Generally coming to direct contact with the divine is a good thing. However they should maintain some control. They shouldn't get lost and succumb to psychosis or some other mental problem. I have seen RUclips footage of both Quaker and Pentacostal practice. So I have a good idea on what they are like. I can't do the same with Anne Hutchenson because she lived way before film. This video doesn't give enough detail to make me judge. I would need a detailed written account of Ann Hutchenson during one of the visions. To her credit, she is not alone. There are plenty of religious groups with bizarre beliefs. Heck there are even some within Christianity. Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are really bonkers. They make Ann Hutchenson look tame. I do like the idea that one can have whatever wierd beliefs they want, and they have the freedom to get away with it. I have come up with more than my fair share of wierd stuff. So I can't talk.
She may have been a leader in religious freedom…but she sure didn’t understand the Native Americans when she was decided to make her home on a Native burial land…she was asked to leave the area now part of Bronx, NY near some wetlands and was murdered because she refused to leave.
She was also foolish to not use her claim that "she can see the elect" to butter up some of the puritan church leaders (who ended up interrogating her) to her side beforehand. I can imagine if she had simply said, "Reverend Carver, I can see in you that you are definitely the elect of God. I hope you know that and take heed against Reverend Jacobs (or whoever would be his rival in the church power structure)..."
Imagine the chaos that would've ensued since then she'd have some ambitious leadership on her side to denounce her opposition!
Or maybe you can also do videos on William Penn and the religious minorities in early colonial America!
A video on Penn in the near future is more likely, although I may do a video on one of the colonial Indian Wars, as well.
Great Video!
Rep! Dissent is a very important part of being American. Unfortunately, it’s being squelched. But I suppose this is the never ending story…
@Lara Hamilton No it isn't. 😉
Yoy are great Sir 👏🏻
you AMAZING!
+estefany Calixto Only because you say that I am!
Interesting, Anne Hutchinson sounds like a woman I can relate to. Was not another reason both her and Roger Williams were booted out of the area because they were against the injustice of the wars against the native people at the time. Against stealing natives land, instead they proposed that land outa be bought. All sorta radical ideas. Which if you read the bible and understand the character of Jesus you would actually see Jesus was extremely radical at the time as well. He treated women different and saw value in all people, and was very against religious piousness. (Careful to use 1timothy in context, because if you dont its like creating propaganda, distorting the truth.) Always ask Who was Paul writing too, why, what does teaching mean, and what does practicing authority mean? Ive wrestled with that verse alot in my life time. And Im not sure how Anne would have known they were elect, but it does make me ponder the verse in the bible that talks about knowing a follower of Jesus by their fruit. Because I can tell when someone is or is not following the Lord, or if they have a relationship with the Jesus or just believe in him or think hes a cool guy. And its not by some weird magic its about the fruit they bear in their lives. What do they say, and dont say, or stand for, how do they deal with trials, persecution things of that nature. But very good video I leared some more and enjoyed your explaining of it.
The Pilgrims and Puritans came to America for religious independence, Not religious freedom. They were as repressive as the Anglican Church was in England.
At 3:22 I looked at his mug with intensity
Is it only me who thinks that Anne Hutchinson’s beliefs are extremely naive and don’t work as a moral framework whatsoever. It’s almost like if you believe in them, you actually lose your moral compass rather than gain it.
Ps have you ever gotten that you look a lot like Magnus Carlson, the chess champion? Lol
the 1 timothy verse is often out of context. he was writing this to address a certain problem in a certain church.
Can you explain the meaning of Pope Leo xiii statement that "the tolerance of all religions ... is the same thing as atheism"?
yeeaaahhh Freedom
-yours sincerly from England (So free never oppressed anyone promise)
I love my British audience! Please excuse the inevitable American Revolution videos that will be published this semester.
Tom Richey Don't worry I love all History!
Tom, are you a Christian?
At the risk of answering a loaded question, yes, although this answers little in terms of my overall thinking.
+Tom Richey ok. I was just going to say that you seem to understand Calvinism well. many Arminians and other non Calvinist often do a terrible job.
+Tom Richey Don't worry Tom, they will come after you for that one! Just wait!!! # NEVERASHAMED
caleb simpson x
I think Calvins was misrepresented here
That massacre was a set up and they paid those natives to do that , one of the children survived a red head forgot what they named her , Annie started the situation on the ship the griffin on its way to America in 1632 or 34 I forget I really would like that manifest anyways her and Winthrop got into on the ship and it continues once on land , now her best friend Richard Maxson sr gets arrow during that massacre supposed died how ever several years later he is signing documents as well paying the highest taxes in Rhode island , this is a complex story that I have been working on , these are my family . So I'm intrigued when I come across these .. thank you .
This is an interesting take! Makes me want to hear more.
I’m glad for separation of Church and State BUT to say that sacralism itself is “not American” is completely anachronistic.
People who take Timothy and Ephesians out of context are almost as frustrating as Calvinists. lol Grace is free, but there is no elect select few
The cited words of St. Paul are prescient.
Anne Hutchinson did not understand the concept of the law of liberty. this is why she is antinomion which stands for free grace. the law of liberty means one gets a living word from God and at the same time one is empowered to keep it. problem is once one gets a living word from Jesus there is not an option of disregarding it without judgment. there is no one that understands what the law of liberty is even though it is the only way to be saved. it is what the Bible teaches.
Also she didn't understand the concept of progressive salvation in that we follow the path Christ set for us. We are saved by His grace, but we were still commanded by Him to be perfect according to His words in Matthew 5:48
Not necessarily respecting the times and order of the times but judging the colonial times with today's gender neutral educational system.
Since this is on the topic of religion i'm curious to see if you accept the authenticity of religions such as Jediism and Pastafarianism, a weird question but it goes to show how religiously tolerant our American society can be in this day and age.
Cool but like she was served as guilty so I win
"Enter: the patriarchy."
That got me to laugh
+kayla slack It gave me a good laugh, too!
Very “charismatic” indeed.
The man needs a SHOWER!! He looks like he watches his face with fried chicken.
School starts tomorrow ....
WOO!!! TIME TO LEARN!!!
Every time he says the world bible a puppie dies.
how much mugs do you have
Calvinism is a scam!!😅
I mean the thing that appalled the religious leaders in Plymouth colony was her claim in front of them that she had received revelation from God. Imagine that being the straw that broke the camel's back 😅