Tempering is what will keep D4 fun potentially for years. If the devs continue to add things that change the way your skills work or build works, they can do endless different things to keep the game fresh.
eh, I've played Last Epoch a bunch and sure, Tempering in theory feels similar to the shard upgrade system, the affixes are more specific and impactful in D4 for now. plus Masterworking is completely unique. the only thing they more or less blatantly copied are greater affixes, that is obviously just Exalted items. but hey, I don't see why not to get inspired from another great game when Last Epoch got inspired by other ARPGs to begin with. just results in more great games for us all to play @johnWayne-vd1qy
unlike the hate-meta enjoyers in the comments, I am looking forward to the changes and will be playing S4. "im not playing" "D4bad" "its too late" well good riddance to you all. just play POE.
I can't believe there are still people meming about the game being bad... Some of which it's super obvious they haven't played and just watched their favourite professional content farmer
I don't think any dev ever in the history of video games has ever wanted their baby to fail. People might picture it that way and like devs don't care, they do and on a very personal level.
@@Phaxey we need to *start* talking about "the devs" as if they're victims of the shareholders even more-so than the players. And yes, they are a varied group with multiple perspectives that are forced into a single vision by leadership. I don't like or agree with how everything on my team at work is run, but I'm a team-player and will still do my work to the best of my ability so that the team as a whole still succeeds. I can only imagine game devs have the same issues with even greater frustrations.
That's irrelevant to the people making the decisions though. Blizzard has had two decades+ to get their shit together, and to learn from, and to still be making the same mistakes OVER and OVER is not acceptable, regardless of who is in charge. Clearly you haven't heard much about blizzard lately, but most of those devs wouldn't show up to work if they weren't getting heavy OT and kick backs. It's been well documented. The "Good" dev team at blizzard is long gone.
I think it’s more of a job thing, they care but only so much, it pays the bills, it’s how every corporation operates. These people don’t love what they do and it shows.
You must be fun at parties captain obvious. You are that person that in 10 years will still complain that the first year wasn't the best it could have been.
@@MMoer He has a very good and salient point though, how do you ignore 3 previous titles worth of experience? This Blizzard we're talking about, I mean it's not like a way smaller studio with no experience managed to make a far superior and feature complete ARPG at their first attempt that sells for half the price is it, oh wait Last Epoch is a thing. Well played, not only did you miss the point completely you also managed to insult someone for no good reason other than you could and ended up looking even dumber than your comment.
I hope D4 is putting in Mercs for us. And the Horadric Cube. That'd be one way to streamline crafting. No more crafting "stations" in towns; put it all in the Cube.
I 'turn 67 next month and have been playing games since before the apple 2, I prefer team games, due to my play style, I usually play support characters(like healer) which I also do in real life, I am a computer support tech.in pvp one on one, i SUCK, I accept it,but still like gaming. i play mostly D3 and City of heroes(now that it is back officially you should try it. It is a cancelled game that rose from the ashes) i may join a raid in pokemon go once is a great while.like you mentioned i play games to relax so I do not like a game where you have to almost use a spreadsheet to keep track of your char and equipment,I was one of the many beta tester for D2 a long time ago, and i loved the game,. I like games with stories, SWTOR which i also enjoy, like your videos
The problem with D4 is that Activision Blizzard DIDN'T learn from D3, specifically D3's spectacular failure right out the gate as well as with its sustainability. D3 is a bad game. D2/D2R is still the king of the Diablo franchise, and until they accept that and build from it, the franchise will continue to suffer.
"Dust devil barb is the only build that works." Dorks like that. Other barb builds are on the same Level as other classes but they are used to do billions of damage and one hit everything. Those guys make me fume.
Cool, Diablo 4 is drip feeding more changes and selling hype. I'll check out these changes after the planned yearly expansions fully release for this "live beta service" that prioritizes a digital sales shop with a knockoff diablo addon.
I've seen "we heard you" multiple times from them. I'm still waiting for the, "we're doing something about it" that isn't more time traps for engagement...
Yeah as if that would ever happen. All you need to do, is just look how long D4 was in development. And how Bliztard devs had to quite literally bury their heads in sand to miss all the more successful games like PoE & Grim Dawn etc and not being able to get any inspiration from those games. Thus you get the D4 launch, and the utter garbage game what it turned out to be. So no, they will not be able to " hear you " ever, they are so incompetent that i'd be surprised if they can sit on the toilet without their handler helping them. And then if you truly wanna lose all faith in humanity, realize that there are "people" that still play D4 and/or support Bliz. i mean when the devs are barely smarter than a dead ameba, those poor braindead fanboys are leagues beneath that still..
Blizzard is not listening to their playerbase. They're doing the same thing they've always done. They've broken their game and now they're fixing it to make themselves out to be the hero, which promotes game and mtx sales because of all these content creators putting out videos like "Blizzard is BACK!" and whatnot. It's same shit different day. Blizzard ain't listening to shit.
@@krazyd0nut404 I came back for season 3. Couldn't make it through the leveling process before wanting to rip my ears off out of boredom. So I stopped at like level 38 or something and just never bothered going back.
the dev never listened (Diablo 4) they were forced now and the community did not like the game, the numbers dropped the game rating dropped and it was sinking FAST, they are not listening they are trying to save what is left. they have no choice and only now do they listen and still ... not perfect. Stop selling that they always listened if they listened from the start this Shit would not have happened. They have no choice but to listen now and that is the power of the Community of we had enough, I won't play your shit.
Just like previous 28 times where they finally listened? But this time for real realsies? So really for realsies this time? Nah, thank you. D4 is done.
@@syreplays5079 I very much did. But I'm honestly over it. The things they would have to do, to get me back, are just things they can not do. They are literally not even able to. So it's alright. There's other good games. I just play Dragon's Dogma 2.
It's not a step in the right direction if they're adding in stuff from Diablo 3. Greater rifts was one of the most bland, repetitive grindy content ever, endlessly doing them for literally nothing."infinite" difficulty scaling, is a weak attempt to make the game appear deeper than it is. Can some one tell me how diablo 2 had three difficulties and nailed it? But d3/d4 needs 150 + greater rift "difficulties" ? Its just poor game design and it eventually leads to the imbalance of builds capable of doing these high end "difficulties". So at the end of the day if you want to hit the 200 pit, you will need to play 1 of 3 meta builds or just play in the kiddie pool. 😅 Anyone who thinks adding mechanics from d3 to d4 are a positive change are DELUSIONAL. It's just a shallow game and d4 will become even shallower because of it
Come on man… I been following you for years. You know this is just an attempt to grab more money. Blizzard is just like bud light. They lost their customers due to greed
Nothing spells empty corporate BS more than "We hear you" "We are listening" I lost count how many times I`ve heared that when the AAA corner cranked out another formulaic and buggy bad game.
I 100% doubt. Ive wanted more complexity for builds and more options for skills. Id like meaningful drops that are more than just different big numbies. I wanted something with the ease of access to end game that diablo 3 had, with the build complexity of poe just toned down slightly. I got neither. Now im back to just playing poe and being unhappy regardless.
Fanboy you know dam well they will never change. Greed and stupidity is their providence. Gamer's made this company and hatred of customers killed or is killing it.
we need more MMO elements like group finder for (hard) endgame content, looking forward to potential raid features comming in the 1st expansion :) until then, D4 is sadly not worth the time, glad we have so many other great games until then
"Finally"??? They are listening all the time. In fact they are listening too much sometimes. Community idiots already complaining about PTR as if it was the final version that will land in season 4 although the PTR is precisely NOT the final version per definition. I'm afraid players are way to childish to understand processes necessary to advantageous change.
As a casual D4 player (Diablo fan since the original), I really like the new Aspect and Tempering. I do not like the harder Uber bosses. I am stuck in a catch 22 as I need better equipment but can't get it because it drops from Uber bosses and occasionally from nightmare dungeons and I'm not lucky in getting awesome stuff from nightmare dungeons. I would like to see better drops from the nightmare dungeons, so for the casual player, we might have a better chance to finish the season goals.
The Pit is what will branch the gap between nightmare dungeons and the hard uber bosses. Getting the gear you need is obviously important, but masterworking your gear is going to be very important in the deep endgame.
So after everyones clocked out and d4s own player base leaving in droves, did they say OK guys we're done messing with you, everyone come back, we actially heard you every season and we purposefully ignored you all!! Wtf, uhm no. Sorry d4 devs you will never have thr base back poe2 FTW
Nah, it's Blizzard we're talking about. At some point you guys are the only ones to blame if you still have hope for D4, OW2 or any of their games. "Are they gonna redeem themselves? take#134" Pretty funny.
The question in the title is stupid. Blizzard NEVER listen. Only to the money. As with all business. That is why it is working, because everyone can see, a polished turd is still a turd. And for some reason, no one want's that shit. Huh?
@@yoteslaya7296 the horse that came with 7000 premium currency priced over that amount making the horse free? I didn't but I see you downloaded your opinion from your local content farmer
i stop playing after season 1.. but these are amazing.. they need to auto salvage Rares and added different color for greater aspects and some symbol to see easily in ur inventory which ones have it.. and it would be a even better.. i hate the Paragon board.. they need to change it out and do something else or take it out completely, honestly think D immortal's end game is better system thant D4.. and their seasonal events are way better, also their pvp is better.. they need to learn from that, without the predatory MTS of course
Summoning them with parts is kinda dogshit too imo. I can imagine after the game is out for years you'll have to go to 50 different locations with 50 different body parts, it'll be impossible to even keep track of. I wish we could at least encounter them randomly in the world or in NMD or, if they absolutely insist we have to use parts, let us travel to them from a rift type portal from a central location.
I'd say it's a lot more important to fix bugs and balance issues before the season launch than it is to keep the theme secret... What do they lose from us speculating about the season now? If anything people are getting more hyped. And nothing's sure, people that would are still going to watch the announcement or campfire or whatever (I always just wait for Rhykker to tell me 😅)
It's not a big deal, we don't even know what the main gameplay change in the season is, just the aesthetics. in a week or 2 they will have a campfire chat to discuss it anyways
Yeah it's such a disaster. Nobody wants to play a season if they know what the season theme is gonna be. That's why the previous seasons were not revealed at all and people had to discover them on release.
Have they listened? No. Will you keep doing hope stories for views? Yes. I don't fault you for it, but let's be real, Blizzard doesn't give a single fuck.
Honestly the only lessons from d2 are loot, crafting, rune words, sets. The base game is severely lacking in content. It's a classic and amazing for it's time, but there's really not that much to implement from d2 into d4.
@@Mike-om4tv runewords are not something they should look at like they were in D2. They made all other gear irrelevant and every class/build needed the same runewords because they were just so all powerful. I will never understand why people look so fondly onto them.
@@Mike-om4tv I completely agree with you here. Fantastic game but does not hold up to todays standards. Nostalgia and addictiveness is a big contributing factor to its success , other than that the game is very basic and lacking.
@@countryc0untI think only min-maxers look back on rune words particularly negatively. The average player has never had an enigma. Most max out around spirits. Each individual mid rune or higher is a more measurably fulfilling drop than all but a handful of items in just about any other ARPG. Rares stay useful for like 50 hours at average player speeds. Bases stay useful the entire game. A ton of legendary boots, gloves, belts, jewelry, and often helms stay useful for most classes all game. Basically every ARPG except POE with it's fairly different socket system would drastically improve even if it just implemented rune words and stopped there. And that's not to say it's some pinnacle to stop developing at.
lets not forget that content creators were hyping up Diablo 4 before its release too, and look how its turned out. So far it looks like it will be D3 type game when its only fun to play for a week every new season and than it gets boring
im sick of seeing "necros are broken" no they arent yall been satisficed with a broken class for so long ya dont know what a class balance is.. i will say seeing sigil powder drop in nm dungeons off of random kills on the floor among the gold is amazing
Rhykker's entire channel is 100% funded by Diablo, so there's a financial incentive to upsell every positive aspect and downplay any negative issues. imho, the new changes are good and I somewhat agree with the findings listed here, but I think the drawbacks and negatives are being downplayed too much.
Rhykker is trying to convince us that season 4 changes are revolutionary for an ARPG, whilst ignoring the fact that a $30 game like Last Epoch is superior on release. Literally the most cringe RUclipsr who would rather convince us to pay more for a rubbish game in the future. Sell out.
@@steveskeet1😂hahaha last epoch better where passives just don't even work. Where the gameplay feels floaty as fuck and the luck you need is twice as high for a "Uber unique" than in D4. The controller support is the worst I have ever experienced in an arpg as it's a mere afterthought.... Yeah you tell yourself it's better. 😂
i think they are listening enough to mil people of money then go back to doing what they are use to doing and besides the global marketing manager of Xbox (which Microsoft owns) said some pretty spicy things that have made me not purchase any blizz product anymore....
blizzard is like an abusive relationship. They launch something and have to hear your concerns and complaints for 1 or 2 years before finally giving in to what you request. then launch new game and start over.
Funny, I'm kind of the opposite when it comes to team games versus 1v1 games. I prefer 1v1 because I won't be affecting anyone else's experience if I'm having an off day or my internet is being sketchy. If I win, it's because *I* won. If I lose, it's because *I* lost and can now improve. But in team games, someone can log in and choose to grief their team (something i saw happen a lot in Heroes of the Storm "Oh, we're losing now; I'm just going to throw and feed the enemy team instead of continuing to try to win") thus ruining everyone else's experience.
sets are not an easy thing to balance you either have it like d3 which was terrible or d2 where most were entirely useless, runewords dominated everything so no we don't need those back that was a major issue with d2, charms maybe but it would need to work differently than d2 charms hated just filling my inventory with charms to do things
you're talking out of nostalgia. Sets and runeword were the worst things in Diablo games. Sets were bad/unbalanced in both D2 (garbage) and D3 (OP, and they take away build diversity from players when good, basically devs number tweaking decides your build), and runeword were so OP and common in D2 that they made most others gear useless (because why would you not want to teleport all the time... that gear slot will be forever taken out of the gear pool :p). Hope you don't want stamina potions and potions chugging back as well :) Or FHR mechanics. Oh my the memories. D2 had in fact many flaws. If I wasn't young when I started with it, I would probably had a different opionion of it. But I guess it was the best for its time, so yeah.
I love Rhykker, but his desperate, almost delusional defense of Diablo and Blizzard is both admirable and sad at the same time. Like last week when he was so judgmental about Dragons Dogma II and the MTX drama, and rightfully so, but was so forgiving about Diablo/Blizzard. I don't know.... He feels so two-faced when it comes to them. He treats other games harshly while bending over backwards doing mental gymnastics to reason that Blizzard isn't just the corpse being paraded around. Kinda bums me out man.
Given how many items i have bricked because of forging, my advice it to NOT let forging rework the same affix twice in a row. This can be a good thing and bad, but in my days of testing and forging gear, it MORE THAN NOT gave me the same affix three times in a row and it wasnt something i was chasing. That is frustrating because you finally get what you want on the gear, but then you go to roll your mobility (or whatever affix you intend, and you only have one forge left) and it bricks a PERFECT item. I sent them a message about working a "Scroll of influence" into the game that applies X amount of influence toward YOUR SELECTION. That way there doesn't need to be a million types of scrolls, just a ui menu selection when you apply the scroll of influence. Nothing over the top, just something that ensures a higher probability for a specific outcome. (If reworking the math on the forge is a problem) I already know how people are going to feel, because i experienced it ALOT... I also would like to note that IF a scroll of influence is worked into the game, that itself SHOULD BE a chase item. Great gear takes time. You might want to look at it in your inventory for a while, while you hunt down that sweet sweet probable outcome. We shall see.
100% this. I had the exact same scenario where 3 out of 5 rolls were useless stats, often 2-3 in a row of the same useless stat. I'd rather they 5x the resources required and let you pick the stat, then you reroll that for a higher range.
it is fine you have the whole season to farm another and retry. The bricking will be painful, but it will keep the chase going. And people will learn. First thing you do is temper what you really need. Then the secondary temper. Sometimes better to stop early if minrolled, just to not brick it. If there are multiple non greater affixes as a possible reroll, dont reroll the stat yet. Masterwork first, see where the bonuses land, then reroll the affix that you want with the big bonus at the occultist, to get the bonus on what you want. Those that get a triple greater and brick, sorry :D But those are the grinders and will have stuff to do :P
@@marsovac It’s not “fine” if other players ace their desired outcome on the first try, with no skill/research input whatsoever You’re just creating arbitrary feast/famine casinos because you’re too lazy to implement properly nuanced crafting, with player agency. It’s so outdated
Boss 100% this makes me wanna come back and play D4 but ideally they'll give a similar overhaul to the class passives first too. I so love the diablo series and D4 especially but the only thing holding it back now is the 'skill twig'
Yeah i dont think the wardrobe options for hair will be in the live build. Also class specific eye colors are for all classes in ptr. Kinda cool to have a barb with vampire red eyes
@@vertigowren6919 No offense, but I sincerely hope you are wrong; I want them to keep these options. EDIT: That also wasn't in the PTR at launch; they added that feature LATER in the day.
The new generation is lonely. Online interactions up and down, but few have made any real connections with other people. In a cold environment like that, it’s not surprising that they gravitate toward online games based on teamwork over individual accomplishments. The internet is probably one of the biggest cultural inventions known to man, for better and for worse
After having played some on the PTR, it feels like the devs have finally started listening to us. It feels so good.to play now. If this were going live this month, it would certainly change the ARPG landscape moving forward, at least through Q2. You have a good template here now, D4 Devs. Don't screw with it. Nerf abilities and classes only if they truly need it, and pat yourselves on the back for a job well done. We paid $70-$100 for this g ame, and it's about time for the game to finally enjoyable.
- Just buy the DLC which will fix everything and surely won't cost 70$. - Just alpha-test our shit for us. - Just give us feedback which we will ignore and implement a year later by making it look like its our idea.
How is following feedback and posting to that effect "making it look like our idea?" I agree with the rest of your sentiment, though I'm less salty about the game.
@@bmem1993 You seem to be clueless about the hinted upcoming DLC which will include new classes (or class). Since the base game was 70$ and was garbage, people make fun of the hinted DLC by saying they'll price it at 70$ as well.
@@bmem1993 Thats an unhealthy amount of copium there, I'm amazed you can still believe in Blizzard after countless disappointments and fails. But to each their own, I respect your opinion. For the sake of argument lets hope you are right.
They “herd” you. Because you all will just forgive them even though they have done this for 15+ years. Stop falling for this crap. They only listen cause their stocks got hurt.
They can easily pull a borderlands loot beam. Depending on the loot make it the beam more unstable or have additional like laser beam swirling around it or something like that. Borderlands 3 made it really clear to tell if it's like oh it's a legendary oh it's a specialty drop legendary and so on and so forth Just by adding like an unstable look to the beam or some swirls around it or something like that. It's pretty simplistic but it makes a huge difference and you can tell and even in the picture in your menu you can see the difference
They have not listened to anything, it is the same timeline as other Diablo games. All planned just like with d3. remember "bad launch" loot reset with the excuse of fixing it etc.. They sell you a purposely broken game, the fixes toward the complete game is the only thing they do and never have to create in-game content. A lot of companies operate like this, they create the final product first, then " break it into a incomplete product, and slowly give you or sell you increments towards the complete version.
I feel like if that was true we would data mine it or most important during the blizzard chaos from the lawsuits forsure employees would have spoken out. Unfortunately I think they're just that bad now. There's not one person who made d2 still on the team
@@jlichman1046 they can't make it good even if they have the staff, I know for a fact, that companies these days are structured like government. what you see and work with is the fake, and the ppl in it don't know is fake, but trust the illusion. Then there is the real layer on the top that no one sees. we are in the Matrix, just not plugged with wires.
We’re almost out of early access folks! Full release in season 4 baby!
i hope i get a beta key soon
More like Season 8. For real.
@@Dan-mc7xg hahaha
not before the expansion :) $150 more
I used to say that last august as an joke, dang it
a heaventide would be sick
Inperius' one shot mechanic from 3 😂🤣
That'll be $39.99
Makes me think of a bunch of Jehovah witnesses knocking doors
@@dougiefrizzle3718hell I’ve thrown more to scumbag streamers for making a funny - just hook it to my veins 🤌🏻
@@eido4889Have you heard from our lord and savior Inarius?
Tempering is what will keep D4 fun potentially for years. If the devs continue to add things that change the way your skills work or build works, they can do endless different things to keep the game fresh.
For real they found a way to build out the skill tree without changing the skill tree. Smart moves. So many different ways to build around that.
eh, I've played Last Epoch a bunch and sure, Tempering in theory feels similar to the shard upgrade system, the affixes are more specific and impactful in D4 for now. plus Masterworking is completely unique. the only thing they more or less blatantly copied are greater affixes, that is obviously just Exalted items. but hey, I don't see why not to get inspired from another great game when Last Epoch got inspired by other ARPGs to begin with. just results in more great games for us all to play @johnWayne-vd1qy
only thing they need to change is to not reroll the same one again if u reroll...
They need to stretch out this game until path of exile 2 comes out so they can steal more ideas
The only issue is that this means that the exciting loot mainly happens during crafting and not as drops.
unlike the hate-meta enjoyers in the comments, I am looking forward to the changes and will be playing S4.
"im not playing" "D4bad" "its too late"
well good riddance to you all. just play POE.
Ok.
Agreed and thumps up from me 🙂
I can't believe there are still people meming about the game being bad... Some of which it's super obvious they haven't played and just watched their favourite professional content farmer
spoken like a true dent
Can't wait for S4! And it's really more like POEBAD. Sorry, not sorry. :D
Datamining, the single worst thing in video games period.
I don't think any dev ever in the history of video games has ever wanted their baby to fail. People might picture it that way and like devs don't care, they do and on a very personal level.
We just need to stop talking about "the devs" as if they're a completely homogenous group of people.
@@Phaxey we need to *start* talking about "the devs" as if they're victims of the shareholders even more-so than the players. And yes, they are a varied group with multiple perspectives that are forced into a single vision by leadership. I don't like or agree with how everything on my team at work is run, but I'm a team-player and will still do my work to the best of my ability so that the team as a whole still succeeds. I can only imagine game devs have the same issues with even greater frustrations.
That's irrelevant to the people making the decisions though. Blizzard has had two decades+ to get their shit together, and to learn from, and to still be making the same mistakes OVER and OVER is not acceptable, regardless of who is in charge. Clearly you haven't heard much about blizzard lately, but most of those devs wouldn't show up to work if they weren't getting heavy OT and kick backs. It's been well documented. The "Good" dev team at blizzard is long gone.
Tell that to 343i 😂
I think it’s more of a job thing, they care but only so much, it pays the bills, it’s how every corporation operates. These people don’t love what they do and it shows.
"Took the lessons from Diablo 3".. wow.. Why didnt they LEARN before even jumping into making Diablo 4?
You must be fun at parties captain obvious.
You are that person that in 10 years will still complain that the first year wasn't the best it could have been.
@@MMoer and you are a sheep that continue to feed Blizzards mediocre content
@@MMoer He has a very good and salient point though, how do you ignore 3 previous titles worth of experience? This Blizzard we're talking about, I mean it's not like a way smaller studio with no experience managed to make a far superior and feature complete ARPG at their first attempt that sells for half the price is it, oh wait Last Epoch is a thing.
Well played, not only did you miss the point completely you also managed to insult someone for no good reason other than you could and ended up looking even dumber than your comment.
@gs8494 a loud part of the fan base was crying they DO NOT want another D3, because D3 did a lot of things bad, despite it being fun after the expac
@@SebiBubble It was so fun that they decided to skip another expansion and move away from that embarrassment?
I hope D4 is putting in Mercs for us.
And the Horadric Cube. That'd be one way to streamline crafting. No more crafting "stations" in towns; put it all in the Cube.
Ya, I miss the cube
Bring back the Horadric Cube!
Please no mercs such a waste of time dealing with that crap
9:10 maybe a reference to the 3rd diablo book? (kingdom of shadows), an event where once a year the city of ureh returns back to the mortal plain?
I 'turn 67 next month and have been playing games since before the apple 2, I prefer team games, due to my play style, I usually play support characters(like healer) which I also do in real life, I am a computer support tech.in pvp one on one, i SUCK, I accept it,but still like gaming.
i play mostly D3 and City of heroes(now that it is back officially you should try it. It is a cancelled game that rose from the ashes) i may join a raid in pokemon go once is a great while.like you mentioned i play games to relax so I do not like a game where you have to almost use a spreadsheet to keep track of your char and equipment,I was one of the many beta tester for D2 a long time ago, and i loved the game,. I like games with stories, SWTOR which i also enjoy, like your videos
The outfits look like they are straight out of the movie midsommar
The problem with D4 is that Activision Blizzard DIDN'T learn from D3, specifically D3's spectacular failure right out the gate as well as with its sustainability. D3 is a bad game. D2/D2R is still the king of the Diablo franchise, and until they accept that and build from it, the franchise will continue to suffer.
The cinder pick up radius is one of the best QOL changes
Would be nice to have that for shards of hatred (which you have actually to click on to collect), but thats really nitpicking 🙂
Goblin Packs indeed! I was AMAZED when I came across one on PTR. Still waiting for the vault (not the S3 vaults.. the old D3 vault)
I loved those vaults in D3!!
They were already happening in D4, a couple of time for me
lol there is a ton of hate on the PTR forums
"Dust devil barb is the only build that works." Dorks like that. Other barb builds are on the same Level as other classes but they are used to do billions of damage and one hit everything. Those guys make me fume.
Hey Rhykker whens the next lore video coming?
Cool, Diablo 4 is drip feeding more changes and selling hype. I'll check out these changes after the planned yearly expansions fully release for this "live beta service" that prioritizes a digital sales shop with a knockoff diablo addon.
Exactly
I've seen "we heard you" multiple times from them. I'm still waiting for the, "we're doing something about it" that isn't more time traps for engagement...
1000%
Yeah as if that would ever happen. All you need to do, is just look how long D4 was in development. And how Bliztard devs had to quite literally bury their heads in sand to miss all the more successful games like PoE & Grim Dawn etc and not being able to get any inspiration from those games. Thus you get the D4 launch, and the utter garbage game what it turned out to be.
So no, they will not be able to " hear you " ever, they are so incompetent that i'd be surprised if they can sit on the toilet without their handler helping them.
And then if you truly wanna lose all faith in humanity, realize that there are "people" that still play D4 and/or support Bliz. i mean when the devs are barely smarter than a dead ameba, those poor braindead fanboys are leagues beneath that still..
Blizzard is not listening to their playerbase. They're doing the same thing they've always done. They've broken their game and now they're fixing it to make themselves out to be the hero, which promotes game and mtx sales because of all these content creators putting out videos like "Blizzard is BACK!" and whatnot. It's same shit different day. Blizzard ain't listening to shit.
Patch 1.1 nerf everyone so hard, millions left. Hell, my friends list, zero came back and won’t.
@@krazyd0nut404 I came back for season 3. Couldn't make it through the leveling process before wanting to rip my ears off out of boredom. So I stopped at like level 38 or something and just never bothered going back.
I already bored of palworld, LE, and not planning to play PoE yet. I'm burning through D4 PTR atm. I'll be playing d4 s4 on live. Can't wait
You got too much time.....too much games in reach...Chill!
Yea I’m burnt with Le. pOE ehhhh I don’t want to venture there. Started D4 and I’m digging it
Yeah LE is just way to easy and boring gets old so fast
you're burning out on dopamine...go outside and touch grass. Go to the gym. Do some shit.
the dev never listened (Diablo 4) they were forced now and the community did not like the game, the numbers dropped the game rating dropped and it was sinking FAST, they are not listening they are trying to save what is left. they have no choice and only now do they listen and still ... not perfect.
Stop selling that they always listened if they listened from the start this Shit would not have happened.
They have no choice but to listen now and that is the power of the Community of we had enough, I won't play your shit.
Just like previous 28 times where they finally listened?
But this time for real realsies? So really for realsies this time?
Nah, thank you. D4 is done.
ur done with D4. D4 is going to be okay without you. goodbye
@@ethokjonesies Okay, bootlicker.
You haven’t looked into any of the itemization changes, have you?
@@syreplays5079 I very much did. But I'm honestly over it. The things they would have to do, to get me back, are just things they can not do. They are literally not even able to.
So it's alright. There's other good games. I just play Dragon's Dogma 2.
@@yerushalaimnehereset I mean, that’s fair. Everybody has their own preferences.
With that said, they’re doing very good with this update.
It's not a step in the right direction if they're adding in stuff from Diablo 3. Greater rifts was one of the most bland, repetitive grindy content ever, endlessly doing them for literally nothing."infinite" difficulty scaling, is a weak attempt to make the game appear deeper than it is. Can some one tell me how diablo 2 had three difficulties and nailed it? But d3/d4 needs 150 + greater rift "difficulties" ? Its just poor game design and it eventually leads to the imbalance of builds capable of doing these high end "difficulties". So at the end of the day if you want to hit the 200 pit, you will need to play 1 of 3 meta builds or just play in the kiddie pool. 😅 Anyone who thinks adding mechanics from d3 to d4 are a positive change are DELUSIONAL. It's just a shallow game and d4 will become even shallower because of it
I can’t wait for the new season. This game has tremendous potential.
Come on man… I been following you for years. You know this is just an attempt to grab more money. Blizzard is just like bud light. They lost their customers due to greed
If they make the game fun come back and play. No need to give them more money
Dafuq, Game studios are commercial ventures?
We're at the "we're listening" stage again, can't wait for S6 "we're listening", I bet it will be great.
Tomorrow. D4 will be great! Tomorrow. The sun will come out, Tomorrow, but ya gotta hang on till tomorrow ...
Nothing spells empty corporate BS more than "We hear you" "We are listening"
I lost count how many times I`ve heared that when the AAA corner cranked out another formulaic and buggy bad game.
@@everettcooper8939 I played the PTR, today, and it was great. Today, not tomorrow. You haters really need to find some other hobby.
Insert the 'I'm sorry meme' from Southpark
I 100% doubt. Ive wanted more complexity for builds and more options for skills. Id like meaningful drops that are more than just different big numbies. I wanted something with the ease of access to end game that diablo 3 had, with the build complexity of poe just toned down slightly. I got neither. Now im back to just playing poe and being unhappy regardless.
That zoom out is so slight its hard to notice the difference. I would love a proper zoom out option in the future!
u guys wont be happy till they look like ants.. its already basically the same as any other arpg wtf
@@바보Queenshhh
@@바보Queen Let people enjoy things
@@hiddenxalpha7053 /s? literally no one was doing anything but bitch in this thread, no one was enjoying shit 🤣
@hiddenxalpha7053 you realize this statement doesn't work when the original person is complaining, right? 😂
Fanboy you know dam well they will never change. Greed and stupidity is their providence. Gamer's made this company and hatred of customers killed or is killing it.
we need more MMO elements like group finder for (hard) endgame content, looking forward to potential raid features comming in the 1st expansion :) until then, D4 is sadly not worth the time, glad we have so many other great games until then
Looking forward to coming back to D4 this season
"Finally"??? They are listening all the time. In fact they are listening too much sometimes. Community idiots already complaining about PTR as if it was the final version that will land in season 4 although the PTR is precisely NOT the final version per definition. I'm afraid players are way to childish to understand processes necessary to advantageous change.
As a casual D4 player (Diablo fan since the original), I really like the new Aspect and Tempering. I do not like the harder Uber bosses. I am stuck in a catch 22 as I need better equipment but can't get it because it drops from Uber bosses and occasionally from nightmare dungeons and I'm not lucky in getting awesome stuff from nightmare dungeons. I would like to see better drops from the nightmare dungeons, so for the casual player, we might have a better chance to finish the season goals.
You craft the best gear now. Lvl 95 and up all gear that drops is max ilvl and you just add your best affixes to, best aspects and then master work it
The Pit is what will branch the gap between nightmare dungeons and the hard uber bosses. Getting the gear you need is obviously important, but masterworking your gear is going to be very important in the deep endgame.
So after everyones clocked out and d4s own player base leaving in droves, did they say OK guys we're done messing with you, everyone come back, we actially heard you every season and we purposefully ignored you all!! Wtf, uhm no. Sorry d4 devs you will never have thr base back poe2 FTW
What Blizzard says and what they do isn't the same thing.
Some people never learn and some will always take advantage of those people to get that bag
Nah, it's Blizzard we're talking about. At some point you guys are the only ones to blame if you still have hope for D4, OW2 or any of their games.
"Are they gonna redeem themselves? take#134"
Pretty funny.
Wolf’s Honor is Geralt admitting his love to Triss at Novigrad’s pier 🤣
No spoilers, thanks
The question in the title is stupid. Blizzard NEVER listen. Only to the money. As with all business.
That is why it is working, because everyone can see, a polished turd is still a turd. And for some reason, no one want's that shit. Huh?
Glad to hear that D4 is finally out of beta!
Lol😅😅😅
It's not
@@yoteslaya7296it is. This season is incredible stop being a doomer
@@bmem1993 I bet you paid 60$ for a horse, blizzdrone
@@yoteslaya7296 the horse that came with 7000 premium currency priced over that amount making the horse free? I didn't but I see you downloaded your opinion from your local content farmer
i stop playing after season 1.. but these are amazing.. they need to auto salvage Rares and added different color for greater aspects and some symbol to see easily in ur inventory which ones have it.. and it would be a even better.. i hate the Paragon board.. they need to change it out and do something else or take it out completely, honestly think D immortal's end game is better system thant D4.. and their seasonal events are way better, also their pvp is better.. they need to learn from that, without the predatory MTS of course
for d4 they need BOSSES my biggest piece of feedback after all these great changes is, next season the devs need to focus on BOSSING PLZ!
BONUS MEME: TOMB LORD
@@HiimLemon how about TOMB LORDS, double Boss Fight 😂
They have the boss ladder? And tormented bosses that are LVL 200?
Summoning them with parts is kinda dogshit too imo. I can imagine after the game is out for years you'll have to go to 50 different locations with 50 different body parts, it'll be impossible to even keep track of. I wish we could at least encounter them randomly in the world or in NMD or, if they absolutely insist we have to use parts, let us travel to them from a rift type portal from a central location.
@@rolf565that’s exactly what needs to happen 😂😂😂😂😂
Just letting you know that revealing the Season 4 theme is exactly why they didn't want to do a PTR, so thank WoWHead if we don't get another PTR.
I'd say it's a lot more important to fix bugs and balance issues before the season launch than it is to keep the theme secret... What do they lose from us speculating about the season now? If anything people are getting more hyped. And nothing's sure, people that would are still going to watch the announcement or campfire or whatever (I always just wait for Rhykker to tell me 😅)
It's not a big deal, we don't even know what the main gameplay change in the season is, just the aesthetics. in a week or 2 they will have a campfire chat to discuss it anyways
Or they just realize it doesn't matter if a few things get revealed early compared to the benefits of ptr
Yeah it's such a disaster. Nobody wants to play a season if they know what the season theme is gonna be. That's why the previous seasons were not revealed at all and people had to discover them on release.
Have they listened? No. Will you keep doing hope stories for views? Yes. I don't fault you for it, but let's be real, Blizzard doesn't give a single fuck.
Ironwolves from D2?! If anything I'm glad that Blizzard is finally looking to the masterpiece which is D2 and hopefully learning some lessons from it.
Yes!
Honestly the only lessons from d2 are loot, crafting, rune words, sets. The base game is severely lacking in content. It's a classic and amazing for it's time, but there's really not that much to implement from d2 into d4.
@@Mike-om4tv runewords are not something they should look at like they were in D2. They made all other gear irrelevant and every class/build needed the same runewords because they were just so all powerful. I will never understand why people look so fondly onto them.
@@Mike-om4tv I completely agree with you here. Fantastic game but does not hold up to todays standards. Nostalgia and addictiveness is a big contributing factor to its success , other than that the game is very basic and lacking.
@@countryc0untI think only min-maxers look back on rune words particularly negatively. The average player has never had an enigma. Most max out around spirits. Each individual mid rune or higher is a more measurably fulfilling drop than all but a handful of items in just about any other ARPG. Rares stay useful for like 50 hours at average player speeds. Bases stay useful the entire game. A ton of legendary boots, gloves, belts, jewelry, and often helms stay useful for most classes all game. Basically every ARPG except POE with it's fairly different socket system would drastically improve even if it just implemented rune words and stopped there. And that's not to say it's some pinnacle to stop developing at.
lets not forget that content creators were hyping up Diablo 4 before its release too, and look how its turned out.
So far it looks like it will be D3 type game when its only fun to play for a week every new season and than it gets boring
"We are listening... just give us more money and we for suuuure fix everything!"
im sick of seeing "necros are broken" no they arent yall been satisficed with a broken class for so long ya dont know what a class balance is.. i will say seeing sigil powder drop in nm dungeons off of random kills on the floor among the gold is amazing
Just let rogues hide the bow/crossbow. It’s an option that should be available.
Harada is correct. Also, how many times are you guys going to touch the hot stove that is diablo 4??? What will it take for you to stop?
I was just thinking yesterday that there should be a cleaning station on the helldivers ship for cleaning the blood and guts lol
This is a diablo 4 video?
Nevermind. I see where you got that from lol
Crossover with Viscera Cleanup Detail?!? I'm hype for it.
I was thinking the same thing 😅
So they are, finally, finally really finally listening.
Super hyped for Season 4. It's almost like waiting for game's launch last year :)
You know what would make sense? Actually having hell themed dungeons.
That flower headed staff makes think of a maypole - which would make sense with the season starting in May
And the Cosmetics shown at 5:00 seems to be Midsommarkrans helmet cosmetics.
Im a casual gamer dad, and i really need this to come true 🎉 i dont have time to play 6 hours or more a day but i want to enjoy endgame content.
Please god, let it just be the season theme. I fucking hate any kind of followers in any game so much....
Never play summoner necro :P
"Season of the Pack" or "Season of the Hunt" maybe? considering Wolves often hunt in packs
Rhykker's entire channel is 100% funded by Diablo, so there's a financial incentive to upsell every positive aspect and downplay any negative issues. imho, the new changes are good and I somewhat agree with the findings listed here, but I think the drawbacks and negatives are being downplayed too much.
Rhykker is trying to convince us that season 4 changes are revolutionary for an ARPG, whilst ignoring the fact that a $30 game like Last Epoch is superior on release.
Literally the most cringe RUclipsr who would rather convince us to pay more for a rubbish game in the future.
Sell out.
@@steveskeet1😂hahaha last epoch better where passives just don't even work. Where the gameplay feels floaty as fuck and the luck you need is twice as high for a "Uber unique" than in D4. The controller support is the worst I have ever experienced in an arpg as it's a mere afterthought....
Yeah you tell yourself it's better. 😂
i think they are listening enough to mil people of money then go back to doing what they are use to doing and besides the global marketing manager of Xbox (which Microsoft owns) said some pretty spicy things that have made me not purchase any blizz product anymore....
Waiting almost a year to make changes the players asked for isn't a great strategy
Yeah cause the players are always right….90 percent are toxic players.
Except they did the same thing in D2 and D3...Both games took over a year to be good...
Bobby Kotick said 6.6.2023. It had to be :P
Cosmetics cost half the price of the game which makes me lose all excitement for them.
Thanks for the weekly news brother! Hyped for S4
blizzard is like an abusive relationship. They launch something and have to hear your concerns and complaints for 1 or 2 years before finally giving in to what you request. then launch new game and start over.
Ive learned better by now to expect something good from Blizzard.
💯
The iron wolves were the sorceress knight mercenaries you could hire in Act 3 town in Diablo 2 as well
I got permabanned on the D4 Steam forum by a dev for merely comparing D4 to DI and Lost Ark.
Talk about fragile ego.
You probably didnt read the rules, so you don't know why you got the ban. perma bans are not given just because :)
Imagine.... hear me out, they brought DIABLO to diablo 4.... weird concept.
Funny, I'm kind of the opposite when it comes to team games versus 1v1 games. I prefer 1v1 because I won't be affecting anyone else's experience if I'm having an off day or my internet is being sketchy. If I win, it's because *I* won. If I lose, it's because *I* lost and can now improve. But in team games, someone can log in and choose to grief their team (something i saw happen a lot in Heroes of the Storm "Oh, we're losing now; I'm just going to throw and feed the enemy team instead of continuing to try to win") thus ruining everyone else's experience.
I don’t see any set items, charms, more sockets. Runes/runewords
I'm so happy we aren't seeing any of those things.
sets are not an easy thing to balance you either have it like d3 which was terrible or d2 where most were entirely useless, runewords dominated everything so no we don't need those back that was a major issue with d2, charms maybe but it would need to work differently than d2 charms hated just filling my inventory with charms to do things
@@kmaguire7161agree, hope there won't be any sets. Then we're back to D3
you're talking out of nostalgia. Sets and runeword were the worst things in Diablo games. Sets were bad/unbalanced in both D2 (garbage) and D3 (OP, and they take away build diversity from players when good, basically devs number tweaking decides your build), and runeword were so OP and common in D2 that they made most others gear useless (because why would you not want to teleport all the time... that gear slot will be forever taken out of the gear pool :p). Hope you don't want stamina potions and potions chugging back as well :) Or FHR mechanics.
Oh my the memories. D2 had in fact many flaws. If I wasn't young when I started with it, I would probably had a different opionion of it. But I guess it was the best for its time, so yeah.
I've heard this premise a million times. Free yourself of the Blizzard bullshit!
I love Rhykker, but his desperate, almost delusional defense of Diablo and Blizzard is both admirable and sad at the same time.
Like last week when he was so judgmental about Dragons Dogma II and the MTX drama, and rightfully so, but was so forgiving about Diablo/Blizzard. I don't know.... He feels so two-faced when it comes to them. He treats other games harshly while bending over backwards doing mental gymnastics to reason that Blizzard isn't just the corpse being paraded around. Kinda bums me out man.
dont worry season 1 will save d4, hey dont worry seaon 2 will realy save d4, hey dont worry season3 will save d3. :)
Given how many items i have bricked because of forging, my advice it to NOT let forging rework the same affix twice in a row.
This can be a good thing and bad, but in my days of testing and forging gear, it MORE THAN NOT gave me the same affix three times in a row and it wasnt something i was chasing.
That is frustrating because you finally get what you want on the gear, but then you go to roll your mobility (or whatever affix you intend, and you only have one forge left) and it bricks a PERFECT item.
I sent them a message about working a "Scroll of influence" into the game that applies X amount of influence toward YOUR SELECTION.
That way there doesn't need to be a million types of scrolls, just a ui menu selection when you apply the scroll of influence.
Nothing over the top, just something that ensures a higher probability for a specific outcome. (If reworking the math on the forge is a problem)
I already know how people are going to feel, because i experienced it ALOT...
I also would like to note that IF a scroll of influence is worked into the game, that itself SHOULD BE a chase item.
Great gear takes time.
You might want to look at it in your inventory for a while, while you hunt down that sweet sweet probable outcome.
We shall see.
I don't have access to the PTR, but couldn't you reset the Masterwork levels if you wanted to get a better outcome?
@@RigorousBarley you can, but tempering is what he's talking about, and you can't reset tempering affixes.
100% this. I had the exact same scenario where 3 out of 5 rolls were useless stats, often 2-3 in a row of the same useless stat. I'd rather they 5x the resources required and let you pick the stat, then you reroll that for a higher range.
it is fine you have the whole season to farm another and retry. The bricking will be painful, but it will keep the chase going.
And people will learn. First thing you do is temper what you really need. Then the secondary temper. Sometimes better to stop early if minrolled, just to not brick it.
If there are multiple non greater affixes as a possible reroll, dont reroll the stat yet. Masterwork first, see where the bonuses land, then reroll the affix that you want with the big bonus at the occultist, to get the bonus on what you want.
Those that get a triple greater and brick, sorry :D But those are the grinders and will have stuff to do :P
@@marsovac
It’s not “fine” if other players ace their desired outcome on the first try, with no skill/research input whatsoever
You’re just creating arbitrary feast/famine casinos because you’re too lazy to implement properly nuanced crafting, with player agency. It’s so outdated
Boss 100% this makes me wanna come back and play D4 but ideally they'll give a similar overhaul to the class passives first too. I so love the diablo series and D4 especially but the only thing holding it back now is the 'skill twig'
such stuff cannot happen without an expansion. If you rework the skill tree you need to rework all the itemisation as well.
For the hair being available in wardrobe (15:47), that happened the SAME day I bug reported that to the UI department.
Don't let your memes be dreams.
Yeah i dont think the wardrobe options for hair will be in the live build. Also class specific eye colors are for all classes in ptr. Kinda cool to have a barb with vampire red eyes
@@vertigowren6919 No offense, but I sincerely hope you are wrong; I want them to keep these options.
EDIT: That also wasn't in the PTR at launch; they added that feature LATER in the day.
It takes teamwork to make the dream work 👊🏻
The new generation is lonely. Online interactions up and down, but few have made any real connections with other people. In a cold environment like that, it’s not surprising that they gravitate toward online games based on teamwork over individual accomplishments. The internet is probably one of the biggest cultural inventions known to man, for better and for worse
Human interaction is key to a healthy mind.
You are correct.
Just need less microtransaction for every piece of armor, can't put any "style" on my characters... =(
dafuq, you play for the looks or the gameplay?
Yet another sign the world is going to end.. Blizzard devs listening to the fans... spooky
If Season 4 is another fucking companion season, this time being an Iron Wolf companion... holy SHIT are the devs just absolutely tone deaf.
If there is honor gain involved it seems to me that you're a recruit, and not the recruiter :D
Some of these things arnt leaks, sometimes devs "leak" to get some excitement get people talking during a down time.
After having played some on the PTR, it feels like the devs have finally started listening to us. It feels so good.to play now. If this were going live this month, it would certainly change the ARPG landscape moving forward, at least through Q2.
You have a good template here now, D4 Devs. Don't screw with it. Nerf abilities and classes only if they truly need it, and pat yourselves on the back for a job well done. We paid $70-$100 for this g ame, and it's about time for the game to finally enjoyable.
Who apart from people who want to hurt themselves plays Blizzard games anymore?
Harada is right
Yep, he is absolutely correct.
2XKO is already doing it.
Harada might be right here but he's a stubborn scumbag about Tekken.
Facts. Not just in games.
@@HighLanderPonyYT What is wrong with Tekken?
That Tekken guy sounded so right. Didn't sound controversial at all.
- Just buy the DLC which will fix everything and surely won't cost 70$.
- Just alpha-test our shit for us.
- Just give us feedback which we will ignore and implement a year later by making it look like its our idea.
How is following feedback and posting to that effect "making it look like our idea?"
I agree with the rest of your sentiment, though I'm less salty about the game.
There is nothing to buy? This season update is free with the game...
@@bmem1993 You seem to be clueless about the hinted upcoming DLC which will include new classes (or class). Since the base game was 70$ and was garbage, people make fun of the hinted DLC by saying they'll price it at 70$ as well.
@@HowToMolly you mean the expansion. Yes I have heard about it, as they announced it. Thats not confirmed to be the price so.... Until then
@@bmem1993 Thats an unhealthy amount of copium there, I'm amazed you can still believe in Blizzard after countless disappointments and fails. But to each their own, I respect your opinion. For the sake of argument lets hope you are right.
How many seasons are you going to ask if they are listening or if the game is finally good lmao
This is not an empty space in the diablo 4 map. Former was called the secret cow level here it is called the open world secret cow area.
They “herd” you. Because you all will just forgive them even though they have done this for 15+ years. Stop falling for this crap. They only listen cause their stocks got hurt.
"We heard you" (TM)
If only they put 1% of cosmetic effort on actually making the game better. Imagine that!
"I feel like I have two wolves inside me fighting.. one good and one bad... which one will win, grandfather?"
"The one you feed."
Not cope at all.
"We are listening but we don't really care" - D4 Devs
Honestly, too little too late, RIP Blizzard it was a fun ride
You won't be missed
Indeed lol, good riddance @byronco4917 - don't think the game needs your negativity
Byeee
It's never to late to play a good game... You should really cut the spoiled brat crap and grow up
I predict, a massive disappointing news from D4 in the very near future, like they always do.
They can easily pull a borderlands loot beam. Depending on the loot make it the beam more unstable or have additional like laser beam swirling around it or something like that. Borderlands 3 made it really clear to tell if it's like oh it's a legendary oh it's a specialty drop legendary and so on and so forth Just by adding like an unstable look to the beam or some swirls around it or something like that. It's pretty simplistic but it makes a huge difference and you can tell and even in the picture in your menu you can see the difference
"we hear you" " we just dont know wtf to do" "and corporate has too many red tapes that we cant navigate through to give you what you want"
Good thing they did a restructuring under Microsoft. Might be why we are finally getting the good stuff now.
No. They said it every stream they've ever done. Here we are.
They have not listened to anything, it is the same timeline as other Diablo games. All planned just like with d3. remember "bad launch" loot reset with the excuse of fixing it etc.. They sell you a purposely broken game, the fixes toward the complete game is the only thing they do and never have to create in-game content. A lot of companies operate like this, they create the final product first, then " break it into a incomplete product, and slowly give you or sell you increments towards the complete version.
I feel like if that was true we would data mine it or most important during the blizzard chaos from the lawsuits forsure employees would have spoken out. Unfortunately I think they're just that bad now. There's not one person who made d2 still on the team
@@jlichman1046 they can't make it good even if they have the staff, I know for a fact, that companies these days are structured like government. what you see and work with is the fake, and the ppl in it don't know is fake, but trust the illusion. Then there is the real layer on the top that no one sees. we are in the Matrix, just not plugged with wires.
Bobby said 6.6.2023. It had to be. I guess they could have launched as "early access" like PoE or LE did, and nobody would have complained.
I will try it on Gamepass for a month when the new Patch arrives
The player base has already moved on. It's way too late
lol. everyone who went to LE and whatever will be back for s4 , don't worry about it .
Same, already got tired of LE so I'll be back. HD2 keeps me busy rn though
Love how a single person speaks for the entire player base 😂
There may still be hope...by Season 8. I wouldn't give up totally.
@@BoomyNationcope bro
No it means they will try to lure you back in to buy the expansion