I have a warm place in my heart for Pro Co. I had and “OG” back in the day and the Rat was my only pedal at that time, going into a clean amp. It was a set it and forget it pedal and everything from there was happening at the Volume on the guitar. My beloved RAT was stolen at a gig and I was devastated. I wrote a letter (remember those?) to PRO CO. Telling them my story and how much I LOVED my RAT. Well, they sent me a brand new RAT and two Pro Co. cables so I could get out there and gig again. To this day, I am deeply grateful to Pro Co. for their kindness and generosity to a working musician. Oh, and I still have the pedal.
"oh josh made an episode about a pedal he actually made!" the episode is actually about how cool another brand's pedals are, and at the end he tells you not to buy his pedal. love this company
17:00 - oh, *next* week is the deep dive on Rats. I was wondering why this 39 minute thing on Rats was so cursory. Glad you'll get into the details next week.
Should have done the Rat History first, do that thing where you “influence” the used market. Then bring The Pack Rat to save our souls, and still have money left for wherever Josh buys coffee.
The jokes need to stop. That's not MY opinion. That's A warning from the future! Humans don't like strangers joking. I've Seen what happens, hundreds of times and it gets ugly real fast.
I hope that someday someone does an biography on Josh, and puts as much effort, attention to detail, and zaniness that he does into his articles, videos, and pedals.
I can only think of one improvement that can be made to the Pack Rat, Josh. LEDs in the eyes for the power. This needs to happen. I'll even promise to buy the first one.
Oh YEAH,.BABY! Gotta wonder why Josh didn't do that. Might bump the production costs up, maybe? I'd pay the extra for two little red eyes staring up from the pedalboard too!
Whew. I thought you were gonna list the ways he was great and the first was “as a lover”. I mean, I am sure he is but I thought it was a strange way to start the list
Very nice rat overview and mini ProCo history lesson. Thank you Josh and everyone at JHS that made it possible. Really too bad Mr Scotty Burham didn't want to participate he could offer much more insight into the earliest days of Proco and rat history. I'm not sure he fully realizes what his efforts did for the rock music scene. I'm sure Steve Kiraly RIP would have been happy to participate. Anyway, It was great to meet you and Nick and dust off some of the old neural pathways. Very nice all of your kind words but, funny I really don't feel much like a super hero, thanks all the same. All the best, Your friend Grape :^) PS feel free to send me one of your RP pedals and i'll figure out a way for you to make it for under $20 Hahahahahaha
I don't know what it was, the mixing, the pedal, the arrangement or what but that first jam when it first dropped into the groove it really inspired me. This is coming from a person that hasn't felt inspired by music in 6-9 months. Great job guys -- superb. Really.
I've known Grape for years. Great guy, very intelligent. He also done some really great amp circuit designs. Thanks for giving props to him Josh, Grape deserves it! I hear now he's building robots.
I enjoyed learning about the person who designed the Turbo RAT. I still have my TR which I bought new in 1989. It has been through many bands, countless practices and gigs. I've run through 3 footswitches on it. When I would send it in to ProCo for repair, they would send it back with a bunch of candies packed in the box, which I thought was just super cool and unique. I wouldn't trade this pedal for the world, it's the only overdrive that works with my 80's JCM800 2203 to create the exact sound I want. Thanks Grape and ProCo!
The rat is the pedal that got me into building pedals. I was in Jr high in about 95 and couldn't afford a rat so I found the schematic, went to radio shack and got the parts and after a ton of reading and trial and error I finally had a rat 😁
I am consistently impressed at what a great guitar player Josh is. He could have easily made a living as a guitarist, but apparently decided he would rather make actual money ;-}
You can’t go wrong here. Great sounding pedal- I wonder if JHS realizes how much of a treasure he is to this industry and musicians in general… very inspiring individual. Buying my first JHS pedal- the PackRat. Can’t wait!
I'm def getting this one, too. I highly recommend the crayon and colour box v2. They open up a whole new world of dynamics, from a subtle always on attack boost and eq to the splatiest fuzz that zeroes out on heavy attack and big open chords then swells back in. I've paired it with rats, spaceman fuzzes, eqd palisades(ts +mods), muffs, compressors, etc...It just brings new life to what you got. There's nothing like them imho. .
@@jakedibiase7404 Nobody is kissing his ass. Respect is definitely due for the effort and info provided in these vids. No one else goes this deep into pedal history. If you're so insecure about others giving props to him/crew then maybe you should consider that your own personal problem and stop giving unwanted advice or gatekeeping a builder you don't approve of. Idgaf about anyone's hurt feelings on jhs history and I definitely don't hold hands in solidarity with some demanding shmuck on yt to cancel good people.
I'm so glad to see someone giving props to the Brat pedal. I'm a bass player and I purchased the Brat sometime in the late 90's and it has been my main distortion ever since.
He has to have the most pedals of anyone in the world. If not, the person that actually does have more is underground somewhere. Kind of like a pedal rat.
Thank you for this pedal, conceived in Rat-Lore! I worked at ProCo in 1988, and a year or two later I was in a band with some other employees. "Uncle Steve" Kiraly let us practice at his house. Absolutely a good guy! ( and glutton for punishment 😀)
As a synth guy watching these videos it's wild to me that guitarists and synthesists expect low-pass filter knobs to operate in exactly opposite ways. On a synth, the more I turn the LPF knob clockwise, the more open the filter gets, and the more upper harmonics come through--it gets brighter. So they put a perfectly normal LPF knob on a pedal, and all the guitarists want it to operate in exactly the OPPOSITE way? Wow.
I'd recommend checking out a pedal called the 'tephra' by sentimental bob electronics. A one man company in Ukraine made a similar pedal I just got one and it's great
G'day Josh, received my PackRat about a week ago and wanted to personally thank you for sitting up late one night and making mine. I owned a "white" back in the 80's, lost it, whatever, and have always hankered for another. This pedal is a one stop shop, humbuckers, single coil, all the dials have such range... incredible. BUT, what I get the most out of this video are your terms - Mode Circuits, asymmetrical clipping ,schematic, my mates think I'm some kind of genius as i use these words randomly in a sentence. Cheers mate, love ya work
If this is even a fraction as useful as the bonsai on my pedalboard it’s gonna be my favorite distortion pedal ever made. I ordered one before I even heard the first playing sample. JHS just keeps killing it more and more lately.
Sounds excellent, well done on this one! Having taken 9yrs to design & develop a lot of time and energy has gone into this one. I would think many of your staff probably hate building these though having over 260 components to build it.
Imagine in 50 years time, some kid will buy one of these JHS pedals second hand from a pawn shop and can then come home and watch a 40 minute deep dive made by the guy who made the thing.
Best RAT vid EVAR. Thank you, Josh & crew! We all really do appreciate the time & effort you put into this stuff. It shows in the end product. It's absolutely fantastic! Thanks, brother!
Two things. 1) I know what Papa wants for Christmas. 2) Your videos are awesome and I love watching them with my sons. Not only for your amazing ability to dork out in extreme depth on this subject, but also for your sense of humor, refreshingly healthy display of emotion, and complete lack of chip on your shoulder. Like it or not, you're a good role model for tha yoots, thank you.
I’ve a couple pedals with the “Built during Plague” stickers. One is, I suspect, one of the last RAT mods you did. That “no diodes” option just SCREAMS. Love it.
Great history lesson! I finally bought a ProCo Rat 2 a few months ago. Loving it! It is amazing how much one small pedal can do! As for record time ... as much as I like the Foo Fighters, they are not a band that I have bought albums from; just the greatest hits. I should probably explore more album cuts. I have tried a few times to get into Coldplay for 2 reasons: 1) one of my daughters is really into them, 2) a good friend keeps telling me that if I like U2 then I should really like Coldplay. I just can't do it. Honestly, I just don't dig the vocals. I can't get past that.
Josh, I so love your completely nerded out history lessons about pedals. I’ve watched so many that I feel I at least have a bachelors degree in pedal history. Also, you are the best guitar player of all pedal designers I’ve heard play. You sir have CHOPS.
Josh & his team have awesome ears. These things really REALLY sound just like the originals! Stuff like this is like a high quality volks- pedal. Tanslate peoples pedal. The tube screamer tribute bansai same. If you care about tone buy both of these for the price of one original & play em to death. Buying the originals simply makes no sense to me anymore. Why would anyone spend Years and thousand of $ when $250 US gives you 9 of the best of the best in ONE pedal that in each mode sounds EXACTLY original? Now THAT is the power of tone to the people! Revolutionary, subversive, altruistic, benevolent and WAY COOL all @ the same time. I remember you called the designer of chase bliss a genius and indeed he is. In a boutique exclusive kind of way. Your genius lies in giving real working musicians practical tone tools to perfect their craft that are accessible, practical musical well built & reliable without a pedal board the size of Texas
Could do a limited run in purple as a tribute to "The Grape". Your my favorite history teacher Josh, thanks to JHS and crew for existing and figuring out new ways for me to spend my money. Much love from Michigan.
Two years ago I put a comment on this video saying how much i love this pedal and now I'm finally able to build a pedalboard with the packrat. I can't wait until I get to use it in a live context. I love this pedal!
i absolutly love this channel for not only doing advercations for the JHS pedals but also show quite literarly every single other pedal ever produced like you can talk about a pedal like oh this one is really rare and valueble and they only ever made 3 of them and id wanna play it and hear it and josh will go: "yeah i have 57 of them and the box here's how it sounds👍"
I honestly don't know how anyone can give you grief about pedals when you are an expert at making pedals, your word is as good as gold. I know Mick Thomson from Slipknot uses a RAT, I wonder if he will ever pick up your PackRat. I would also love to get hold of one because you have such a wide choice of distortions in one pedal. What an awesom job!! Thank you for the vdeo!
I have to admire Josh's ability to make every pedal sound so good. Whenever I play pedals, amps and IRs I feel like many of them just don't give me what I want to hear. But Josh just makes everything sound like him and just honestly sound great somehow.
Josh doesn’t try to make a pedal give him what he wants to hear. Instead he let’s the pedal speak for itself,…but if he thinks the conversation needs some help he add some delay.www
This pedal finally came in today! I started on the JHS mode and just left it there it just sounded so good from the start! My favorites are the JHS, landgraff, dirty, and turbo. Actually just all of them 🤩 I really appreciate the RUclips channel! LONGER EPISODES PLEASE! I love you all over at JHS stay cooooool
For whatever reason, over my many years of playing and purchasing pedals I have never owned or even wanted a Rat pedal. Having the 9 different circuits packed into this one pedal is quite cool, and it sounds good too. This is one I do want.
Excellent info debunking the differences. I feel it’s pointless for anyone to try to argue against your findings. Definitely sold me on ordering this pedal
Hi Josh, I picked up the PackRat today 26/6/24 after noodling for 20mins at my local guitar store. I’m very impressed… Just wanted to say a quick thankyou for the work you and your team do. You have a passion which is unmatched in the industry and it shows through in both the pedals you have created and the clips in which you demonstrate them. Well done, I appreciate you. 🫡
I used to work at Impact Label Corporation in Kalamazoo. We screen printed the control panels for the RAT with the glow in the dark letters with the clear red in the “A” for the LED. And we printed the TURBO RAT label. I worked there from 2000-2005. We also printed the Gibson label.
Been playing for 18 years. Recently just got a new rat off reverb for about $50 can’t believe I went so long without having one. Totally under appreciated, they sound amazing.
I have your RAT mod and the Tube Screamer bundle and both are spot on, if I didn't already have all the distortion and overdrive I'd ever need in those 2 pedals, I'd pick this up no question. I can't think of another pedal company that has as much integrity as you guys do, really innovative and high quality designs at prices that make sense even for hobby players like myself.
thanks to all of you on jhs for the whole package: great humour and playing, and hunger for a new jhs-pedal. (i already own a proco rat, so nothing's chewing on my conscience.)
I have put a blanket ban on me even looking at another guitar pedal until I actually PLAY guitar more than I look at pedals to buy online, but I gotta say, the vibe of the JHS company, the good natured and just amazing collegiality of Josh and co just makes it so damn hard not to support this. We just have to show other companies that you can succeed by actually being a nice company.
Honestly considering buying this pedal. Here's the thing: I don't even HAVE a pedal board. I've never used a distortion pedal in my life as anything more than a novelty. I play high gain amps like the 5150. I have no idea what I'd DO with it... or why I want one.
Been playing guitar for almost 30 years. I own 1 pedal. I rarely use it and I spend barely any time even thinking about them which is why the axe fx suits me down to the ground.
You need to try building a few diy clones....you'll play even less and aquire even more pedals lol...I've been playing far more now these days though and I'm still building and buying,it now makes me wanna play more
@@kilgoretrout321 I would disagree that they all are the same. Plus adding gain stages makes become more creative. May not be 9 different ones but I’d take 3 different Klon flavors in a box!
I’m a wee bit late, but I just snagged a PackRat. Our very own Josh Scott has made me fall in love with the fuzzy little guy. Man is a walking Rat trap!🪤
I recently put together a new board, and it was REALLY hard not to deck it out with only JHS pedals... These videos have me hooked for life. God bless!
That 2nd "Pink Floyd" jam you did with the whiteface was really good. Sometimes you guys jam out some seriously awesome music. Y'all otta do something about that.
I feel like Josh's playing between the pedal info has been getting so much more appealing lately!! Also when's he gonna admit he's gene ween's little brother? 😂
The article is a magnificent piece of work; scholarly and entertaining. I'm not a massive fan of the RAT but I'm impressed by the amount of work that's gone into the article and this new JHS pedal. I hope it does really well.
Other than 2 other bass players I did shows with, I'd NEVER seen anyone use a Rat for years. I pit it on my bass board around 2000 because I didn't care for the Big Muffs at the time.
@@Ottophil More fool you, because the Rat is an excellent and expressive boost when you wind it back. People focus on the dirt to fuzz end of its capabilities, but it is really 3 pedals in one.
True story: My very first pedal was a Turbo Rat. Bought it from my Van Halen guitar playing friend who first got me playing back in the 80s. He sold it to me for like $25. It was missing its back. I punished my parents with that, the Cort Effector guitar that they bought me for Christmas, and a no name solid state 10 watt amp for a little while before I started my GAS forced upgrades. Anyway, I ended up selling the Turbo Rat in the mid 90s and always missed it. I bought a new one off Reverb last year. I still love that little bastard. I got the Rat 2 as well. They make me happy.
Nick actually nailed Nick Mason’s vibe pretty well too. Too many people overplay when emulating Floyd. It’s about the space between the notes as much as it is the notes you play.
This looks and sounds awesome! One concern: since it has so many components in a regular-sized box, will this be the kind of pedal that a tech will refuse to work on (in the unlikely event that a component fails someday)?
I love this pedal! 👊🏻 Besides, 9 Rat pedals in 1... It’s the History of the Rat ... I’d say it needs to be placed in tne Smithsonian. It’s almost Free ! Where can you buy a Rat for $28 a pedal? That’s 2 cups of coffee ! How did you teach a horse how to play drums ??? I’m mind Boggled !
right around 2013 a buddy started a very similar idea, packing a rat full of options. I helped him do some layout and art work for it. It turned out very cool, but it was just a fun passion project. this just brought back some memories
Nerd question for Josh - is there a LM308 in the PackRat for the early OG and Whiteface modes? edit:- the answer is No, sadly. Also a Fat Rat would’ve been good for the Fat setting.
I can't tell the difference between rat models at all. Maybe they feel different when you're actually playing them, but when I hear collectors go crazy over a special variation that was only produced for X amount of years I can't help but wonder wtf they're hearing
It’s what they think they’re hearing…lol no one but them is going to notice, I’ve played 20 years and realized that while it’s fun to have cool stuff you’re one of the few people that’s actually going to appreciate in a live context. Oh well, we have a sickness…
Hearing people argue over op-amps diodes and what not, it’s like they saying: “The secret to the tone is the air in the factory that got trapped in the case that specific minute of a certain day. Mine is from a day before yours, and it sounds better.”
I have a no brackets blackface with the 1986 copyright board and I had an early rat 2 with the same 1986 circuit and they sounded very different when a/b testing them. The only difference was the led, so I think this rat pack pedal could offer a lot of differences.
MAGIC OP AMP: If the op amp is clipping, it ain't no myth. If it isn't, then, maybe , but there's other factors. I made a distortion that's just an op amp, no diodes. Gain of 10,000. We "rolled" a bunch of different op amps. The better the op amp the worse the sound. The 741 sounded best because of its crappy bandwidth. Higher frequencies get less gain...... If the op amp isn't distorting there's also a question of how the output Z of the op amp interfaces w the diode(s). Some op amps Z is < 1 ohm. The 741 is 150 ohms. So that might be important. In general people who can't hear any difference, think that those who can are only imagining it. Now maybe all op variances are still close enough so there is no difference, but I definitely think the conformist thinking " they're thinking differently, they must be wrong" dynamic is at work whether by chance it agrees w reality or not.
Like Josh, I like Fender guitars through Fender amps (Bassman preferred), but I never really liked the Rat so much. ...until I saw this. Now I need one. So if you want hate comments, here you go, Josh. You and Andy are the people most responsible for me spending all my spare cash on pedals! Boy am I mad! Grr!
I bought this pedal recently and I absolutely love it. The only personal issue I have with it is the decision to keep the filter circuit direction exactly the same as their originals for each mode - since it's all housed in one box, to me it would've made more sense to rewire the circuits to all go in the same direction: i.e., brighter clockwise, darker counter-clockwise. I keep forgetting which way the filter goes in each mode. Some may argue that's less true to the originals but then again, they are all housed inside a modern case anyway... I feel like it would make more sense in the context of a multi-mode pedal. But hey, the sounds are amazing and I'm truly impressed and grateful I can fit so many rats onto my pedalboard!
I have a warm place in my heart for Pro Co. I had and “OG” back in the day and the Rat was my only pedal at that time, going into a clean amp. It was a set it and forget it pedal and everything from there was happening at the Volume on the guitar. My beloved RAT was stolen at a gig and I was devastated. I wrote a letter (remember those?) to PRO CO. Telling them my story and how much I LOVED my RAT. Well, they sent me a brand new RAT and two Pro Co. cables so I could get out there and gig again. To this day, I am deeply grateful to Pro Co. for their kindness and generosity to a working musician. Oh, and I still have the pedal.
This is such a heartwarming story
Beautiful
I love reading stories like that. Right on.
Well, I sent 2 letters to them, and, and...
Back then we had to write on reads.
I should be in bed but I'm binging on RAT's and I'm so glad I have read your story.
"oh josh made an episode about a pedal he actually made!"
the episode is actually about how cool another brand's pedals are, and at the end he tells you not to buy his pedal.
love this company
This is his self-deprecating marketing style, he's been doing it for years. First time?
@@JeighNeither hardly lmao, but that doesn't make it not funny
@@annieetc.563 Way to politely handle an absolute pineapple.
He knows it's a joke, he knows most of us know it's a joke, and we'll buy anyway.
Thank you!
17:00 - oh, *next* week is the deep dive on Rats. I was wondering why this 39 minute thing on Rats was so cursory. Glad you'll get into the details next week.
😂
Should have done the Rat History first, do that thing where you “influence” the used market. Then bring The Pack Rat to save our souls, and still have money left for wherever Josh buys coffee.
👏🏼
😂😂😂😂
I cannot explain the amount of joy I feel from seeing and hearing the "He has the box" jingle. EVERY. TIME. I love it!
Lol. yes!
Every time!
The jokes need to stop.
That's not MY opinion.
That's A warning from the future!
Humans don't like strangers joking.
I've Seen what happens, hundreds of times and it gets ugly real fast.
@@dreyn7780 tf?
Check out the Comodoro Bass Rat pedal... Insane amounts of gain with a blend knob.
I hope that someday someone does an biography on Josh, and puts as much effort, attention to detail, and zaniness that he does into his articles, videos, and pedals.
& it MUST be a musical with everyone casually wearing the pedal costumes and never mentioning it.
My favourite Internet person by a mile
Cringe.
hope that makes you feel hip and cool.
Don't forget those hilarious instances of minor grammar and pronunciation slip ups!
I can only think of one improvement that can be made to the Pack Rat, Josh. LEDs in the eyes for the power. This needs to happen. I'll even promise to buy the first one.
Dude, that's fucking marketing gold! It's unacceptable that the eyes aren't LEDs. I wish my Turbo Rat wasn't stolen, I miss that pedal 😔
Oh YEAH,.BABY! Gotta wonder why Josh didn't do that. Might bump the production costs up, maybe? I'd pay the extra for two little red eyes staring up from the pedalboard too!
Josh, you’re a gift. As a lover of guitar gear AND history, your content is so valuable, engaging and will live on. Can’t wait to order my Pack Rat!
Whew. I thought you were gonna list the ways he was great and the first was “as a lover”. I mean, I am sure he is but I thought it was a strange way to start the list
Yea, he's definitely helping to normalize pedal hoarding. So there is a chance my wife won't leave me. Josh is literally saving my marriage!
Easy dude, he's not God.
He has some bad traits to offset the good. Practically got a CDL license to drive the bus over Ryan Adams.
@@BobbyGeneric145 can't blame him for distancing himself from a sexual predator/ abuser.
The digs at Rhett Shull are awesome. I love how he just casually mentions it quick and moves on… classic
Because Rhett is a moron who is now too rich for everyone else in this space
Very nice rat overview and mini ProCo history lesson. Thank you Josh and everyone at JHS that made it possible. Really too bad Mr Scotty Burham didn't want to participate he could offer much more insight into the earliest days of Proco and rat history. I'm not sure he fully realizes what his efforts did for the rock music scene.
I'm sure Steve Kiraly RIP would have been happy to participate.
Anyway, It was great to meet you and Nick and dust off some of the old neural pathways.
Very nice all of your kind words but, funny I really don't feel much like a super hero, thanks all the same.
All the best,
Your friend Grape :^)
PS feel free to send me one of your RP pedals and i'll figure out a way for you to make it for under $20
Hahahahahaha
We love you grape 🥲
I don't know what it was, the mixing, the pedal, the arrangement or what but that first jam when it first dropped into the groove it really inspired me. This is coming from a person that hasn't felt inspired by music in 6-9 months. Great job guys -- superb. Really.
That's awesome! Thanks for watching :)
I've known Grape for years. Great guy, very intelligent. He also done some really great amp circuit designs. Thanks for giving props to him Josh, Grape deserves it! I hear now he's building robots.
I enjoyed learning about the person who designed the Turbo RAT. I still have my TR which I bought new in 1989. It has been through many bands, countless practices and gigs. I've run through 3 footswitches on it. When I would send it in to ProCo for repair, they would send it back with a bunch of candies packed in the box, which I thought was just super cool and unique. I wouldn't trade this pedal for the world, it's the only overdrive that works with my 80's JCM800 2203 to create the exact sound I want. Thanks Grape and ProCo!
The PackRat is back! Shipping to dealers worldwide 👉 www.jhspedals.info/packrat-release
Despite all my rage, I’m still ordering this Rat from the JHS page.
No, seriously, I have a JHS modded Rat and I still want this.
that's the fanboy mentality
the power of a great ad.
i would order it too if I weren't broke as f.
@@dinosoarskill17 Oh, yeah, big Rat fan for the past 15 years.
This comment is Billy Corgan Approved (TM)
I need a tone bender and a rat. A cool Marshall. That's all I'm sayin
The rat is the pedal that got me into building pedals. I was in Jr high in about 95 and couldn't afford a rat so I found the schematic, went to radio shack and got the parts and after a ton of reading and trial and error I finally had a rat 😁
Josh normalizing pedal hoarding is literally saving my marriage!
To be fair, pedals are easier to store and display.
@@joellebrodeur1015 Easier to store and display than what? Ex-wives?
They’re a tax write off for him.
@@weedshoes5089 That’s the genius
@@RogueA.I. ha ha ha.... Thanks for this. Feeling better about just ordering 2 overdrives when I already own 2 overdrives........
I am consistently impressed at what a great guitar player Josh is. He could have easily made a living as a guitarist, but apparently decided he would rather make actual money ;-}
You can’t go wrong here. Great sounding pedal- I wonder if JHS realizes how much of a treasure he is to this industry and musicians in general… very inspiring individual. Buying my first JHS pedal- the PackRat. Can’t wait!
Very tempted on this one My second pedal I think I had a couple I think
I'm def getting this one, too. I highly recommend the crayon and colour box v2. They open up a whole new world of dynamics, from a subtle always on attack boost and eq to the splatiest fuzz that zeroes out on heavy attack and big open chords then swells back in. I've paired it with rats, spaceman fuzzes, eqd palisades(ts +mods), muffs, compressors, etc...It just brings new life to what you got. There's nothing like them imho. .
This is a cool pedal. But let’s stop kissing this dudes ass.
@@jakedibiase7404 Nobody is kissing his ass. Respect is definitely due for the effort and info provided in these vids. No one else goes this deep into pedal history. If you're so insecure about others giving props to him/crew then maybe you should consider that your own personal problem and stop giving unwanted advice or gatekeeping a builder you don't approve of. Idgaf about anyone's hurt feelings on jhs history and I definitely don't hold hands in solidarity with some demanding shmuck on yt to cancel good people.
@@MrDonc78 you’re simping hard.
I'm so glad to see someone giving props to the Brat pedal. I'm a bass player and I purchased the Brat sometime in the late 90's and it has been my main distortion ever since.
Seriously, this is your most technical flawlessly spoken video I've seen. It's insane. Cap has been doffed.
We all know Josh has a huge stompbox collection, but that's still an incredible number of RAT pedals!
He has to have the most pedals of anyone in the world. If not, the person that actually does have more is underground somewhere. Kind of like a pedal rat.
1 of the first 10 demo versions? How the hell did Josh get his hands on all of these Rats?
Ah… $4,000 is a good start
He's infested with RAT pedals
Thank you for this pedal, conceived in Rat-Lore!
I worked at ProCo in 1988, and a year or two later I was in a band with some other employees.
"Uncle Steve" Kiraly let us practice at his house.
Absolutely a good guy!
( and glutton for punishment 😀)
More phenomenal content from Josh and the team. We're lucky to have you.
God I love this Josh mans playing, takes me back to all the elements of the 90's I crave...
The "Another Rat on the Wall" Jam was Epic guys!! Nailed it!!! Probably one of your most awesomest jams ever!
That's the absolutely most totally superlativest compliment I've ever seen. Now I can't unsee it.
I thought that sounded more like The Division Rat
As a synth guy watching these videos it's wild to me that guitarists and synthesists expect low-pass filter knobs to operate in exactly opposite ways. On a synth, the more I turn the LPF knob clockwise, the more open the filter gets, and the more upper harmonics come through--it gets brighter. So they put a perfectly normal LPF knob on a pedal, and all the guitarists want it to operate in exactly the OPPOSITE way? Wow.
Really love the "friend" setting on these multi-format JHS pedals. Creative and I think speaks well to the JHS brand
Such a fun and wholesome idea
Three of my favorite pedals are the Muff, Tube Screamer, and the Rat. And now you've completed the set. Just beautiful.
💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I think it's awesome to have all of these pedals in 3 boxes for the price they come at. Hopefully I'll own all tree someday.
This is actually really cool! Hope you guys work something out with thomann or some other EU based retailer so we can get our hands on one haha.
I'd recommend checking out a pedal called the 'tephra' by sentimental bob electronics. A one man company in Ukraine made a similar pedal I just got one and it's great
Andertons!
Actually just looked, there are like a million EU retailers, wtf are you talking about?
@@mechmat12345 😂 that's a good point. I live in London and it's easy to get Jhs pedals
Thomann has literally all JHS pedals, i expect the PackRat to be sold there soon.
G'day Josh, received my PackRat about a week ago and wanted to personally thank you for sitting up late one night and making mine. I owned a "white" back in the 80's, lost it, whatever, and have always hankered for another. This pedal is a one stop shop, humbuckers, single coil, all the dials have such range... incredible. BUT, what I get the most out of this video are your terms - Mode Circuits, asymmetrical clipping ,schematic, my mates think I'm some kind of genius as i use these words randomly in a sentence. Cheers mate, love ya work
If this is even a fraction as useful as the bonsai on my pedalboard it’s gonna be my favorite distortion pedal ever made. I ordered one before I even heard the first playing sample. JHS just keeps killing it more and more lately.
I just bought a Bonsai yesterday. It’s a wonderful overdrive pedal, and I could finally hear the differences.
I’m not a bonsai fan bit anything Rat I’m in desperate need of. Every time i try to make a new sound I end up throwing a rat and and it’s perfect.
Sounds excellent, well done on this one! Having taken 9yrs to design & develop a lot of time and energy has gone into this one. I would think many of your staff probably hate building these though having over 260 components to build it.
Sad Mouse is one of my favorite emulation jams you’ve done. So short and so spot on with the guitar and bass lines. And nick plays drums right
Imagine in 50 years time, some kid will buy one of these JHS pedals second hand from a pawn shop and can then come home and watch a 40 minute deep dive made by the guy who made the thing.
Best RAT vid EVAR. Thank you, Josh & crew! We all really do appreciate the time & effort you put into this stuff. It shows in the end product. It's absolutely fantastic! Thanks, brother!
Two things. 1) I know what Papa wants for Christmas. 2) Your videos are awesome and I love watching them with my sons. Not only for your amazing ability to dork out in extreme depth on this subject, but also for your sense of humor, refreshingly healthy display of emotion, and complete lack of chip on your shoulder. Like it or not, you're a good role model for tha yoots, thank you.
I’ve a couple pedals with the “Built during Plague” stickers. One is, I suspect, one of the last RAT mods you did. That “no diodes” option just SCREAMS. Love it.
Great history lesson! I finally bought a ProCo Rat 2 a few months ago. Loving it! It is amazing how much one small pedal can do! As for record time ... as much as I like the Foo Fighters, they are not a band that I have bought albums from; just the greatest hits. I should probably explore more album cuts. I have tried a few times to get into Coldplay for 2 reasons: 1) one of my daughters is really into them, 2) a good friend keeps telling me that if I like U2 then I should really like Coldplay. I just can't do it. Honestly, I just don't dig the vocals. I can't get past that.
W0W -this was the exact thing I was about to write?!🤯
Josh, I so love your completely nerded out history lessons about pedals. I’ve watched so many that I feel I at least have a bachelors degree in pedal history.
Also, you are the best guitar player of all pedal designers I’ve heard play. You sir have CHOPS.
“YOUR MOM” I’m at work and busted out laughing when I heard you say that… that’s so 90’s. Love it. Thanks for the laugh.
JHS honestly makes the best content. Just all around informative, creative, funny, and easy to digest.
Josh & his team have awesome ears.
These things really REALLY
sound just like the originals! Stuff like this is like a high quality volks- pedal. Tanslate peoples pedal. The tube screamer tribute bansai same. If you care about tone buy both of these for the price of one original & play em to death. Buying the originals simply makes no sense to me anymore. Why would anyone spend Years and thousand of $ when $250 US gives you 9 of the best of the best in ONE pedal that in each mode sounds EXACTLY original? Now THAT is the power of tone to the people! Revolutionary, subversive, altruistic, benevolent and WAY COOL all @ the same time.
I remember you called the designer of chase bliss a genius and indeed he is.
In a boutique exclusive kind of way.
Your genius lies in giving real working musicians practical tone tools to perfect their craft that are accessible, practical musical well built & reliable without a pedal board the size of Texas
Could do a limited run in purple as a tribute to "The Grape".
Your my favorite history teacher Josh, thanks to JHS and crew for existing and figuring out new ways for me to spend my money.
Much love from Michigan.
Two years ago I put a comment on this video saying how much i love this pedal and now I'm finally able to build a pedalboard with the packrat. I can't wait until I get to use it in a live context. I love this pedal!
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Big Sad Mouse sold me on this pedal. Also, the drumming and production is so awesome. I love JHS. Thanks, Josh!!!
i absolutly love this channel for not only doing advercations for the JHS pedals but also show quite literarly every single other pedal ever produced like you can talk about a pedal like oh this one is really rare and valueble and they only ever made 3 of them and id wanna play it and hear it and josh will go: "yeah i have 57 of them and the box here's how it sounds👍"
"I won't watch all this, got stuff to do"
Then.
"RIP Stuff, I watched the whole damn thing"
Awesome pedal and potted history.
I honestly don't know how anyone can give you grief about pedals when you are an expert at making pedals, your word is as good as gold. I know Mick Thomson from Slipknot uses a RAT, I wonder if he will ever pick up your PackRat. I would also love to get hold of one because you have such a wide choice of distortions in one pedal. What an awesom job!! Thank you for the vdeo!
I have to admire Josh's ability to make every pedal sound so good. Whenever I play pedals, amps and IRs I feel like many of them just don't give me what I want to hear. But Josh just makes everything sound like him and just honestly sound great somehow.
Gain staging
Josh doesn’t try to make a pedal give him what he wants to hear. Instead he let’s the pedal speak for itself,…but if he thinks the conversation needs some help he add some delay.www
This pedal finally came in today! I started on the JHS mode and just left it there it just sounded so good from the start! My favorites are the JHS, landgraff, dirty, and turbo. Actually just all of them 🤩 I really appreciate the RUclips channel! LONGER EPISODES PLEASE! I love you all over at JHS stay cooooool
For whatever reason, over my many years of playing and purchasing pedals I have never owned or even wanted a Rat pedal. Having the 9 different circuits packed into this one pedal is quite cool, and it sounds good too. This is one I do want.
Excellent info debunking the differences. I feel it’s pointless for anyone to try to argue against your findings. Definitely sold me on ordering this pedal
Love this! Thanks for the hard work in showing us the history of how things came to with this vermin pedal we all love
Some really sweet Bassing on these demos. Particularly the first one.
why thanks!
Hi Josh, I picked up the PackRat today 26/6/24 after noodling for 20mins at my local guitar store. I’m very impressed…
Just wanted to say a quick thankyou for the work you and your team do. You have a passion which is unmatched in the industry and it shows through in both the pedals you have created and the clips in which you demonstrate them.
Well done, I appreciate you. 🫡
The big question is: Does the art on the PackRat glow in the dark like the logo and knobs do on the current RAT2?
This is crucial!
Unfortunately not :(
@@jhspedals 😢 That rat design would look killer in glow in the dark ink.
I used to work at Impact Label Corporation in Kalamazoo. We screen printed the control panels for the RAT with the glow in the dark letters with the clear red in the “A” for the LED. And we printed the TURBO RAT label. I worked there from 2000-2005. We also printed the Gibson label.
I can't describe how much I love this, going to buy one immediately.
Been playing for 18 years. Recently just got a new rat off reverb for about $50 can’t believe I went so long without having one. Totally under appreciated, they sound amazing.
loved this history/shameless plug. going out on a limb only the tiniest of smidges, preloving next week's vid as well. GRAPE
I have your RAT mod and the Tube Screamer bundle and both are spot on, if I didn't already have all the distortion and overdrive I'd ever need in those 2 pedals, I'd pick this up no question. I can't think of another pedal company that has as much integrity as you guys do, really innovative and high quality designs at prices that make sense even for hobby players like myself.
Love everything about this episode. The two albums mentioned in the end are amazing. Super inspired by the tones in this episode.
thanks to all of you on jhs for the whole package: great humour and playing, and hunger for a new jhs-pedal.
(i already own a proco rat, so nothing's chewing on my conscience.)
I have put a blanket ban on me even looking at another guitar pedal until I actually PLAY guitar more than I look at pedals to buy online, but I gotta say, the vibe of the JHS company, the good natured and just amazing collegiality of Josh and co just makes it so damn hard not to support this. We just have to show other companies that you can succeed by actually being a nice company.
Honestly considering buying this pedal. Here's the thing: I don't even HAVE a pedal board. I've never used a distortion pedal in my life as anything more than a novelty. I play high gain amps like the 5150. I have no idea what I'd DO with it... or why I want one.
Been playing guitar for almost 30 years.
I own 1 pedal. I rarely use it and I spend barely any time even thinking about them which is why the axe fx suits me down to the ground.
I have the same issue these days, looking at gear to buy more than actually using it
I don’t have any pedals so I’m looking for pedals
You need to try building a few diy clones....you'll play even less and aquire even more pedals lol...I've been playing far more now these days though and I'm still building and buying,it now makes me wanna play more
I hope your pedal is a huge success, your hard work deserves it.
Apart from that Im genuinely greatful for such a great Rat history lesson.
You need to do this with the Blues Breaker circuit and Klon circuit.
But all Klons are the same, and almost all blues breakers are, too
@@kilgoretrout321 I would disagree that they all are the same. Plus adding gain stages makes become more creative. May not be 9 different ones but I’d take 3 different Klon flavors in a box!
Check out the tumnus and morning glory pedals
I’m a wee bit late, but I just snagged a PackRat. Our very own Josh Scott has made me fall in love with the fuzzy little guy. Man is a walking Rat trap!🪤
This and the Bonsai would be a welcome addition to any board. Endless drive combos!🤯🤘🏾👊🏾
This is the greatest youtube channel of all time
thank you!
As a crazy rat lady, I’m very into this!
I recently put together a new board, and it was REALLY hard not to deck it out with only JHS pedals... These videos have me hooked for life. God bless!
That 2nd "Pink Floyd" jam you did with the whiteface was really good. Sometimes you guys jam out some seriously awesome music. Y'all otta do something about that.
I’ve just been given a Packrat! Wow. What a pedal. Thought I’d better rewatch this vid and learn something about what I’m getting into. Amazing!
I feel like Josh's playing between the pedal info has been getting so much more appealing lately!! Also when's he gonna admit he's gene ween's little brother? 😂
I agree... I was just listening with earbuds a few weeks ago, and not watching, like napping or something, and I was blown away by his effing playing!
The article is a magnificent piece of work; scholarly and entertaining. I'm not a massive fan of the RAT but I'm impressed by the amount of work that's gone into the article and this new JHS pedal. I hope it does really well.
Rats rule! Just discovered them a year ago! After 30 years of playing!
Other than 2 other bass players I did shows with, I'd NEVER seen anyone use a Rat for years. I pit it on my bass board around 2000 because I didn't care for the Big Muffs at the time.
I played one at a pawn shop in the 90’s didnt like it then. Don’t care for it now. Distortion is an amps job
Glad you found them!! even if it took 30yrs, it’s really been my fav sound for leads since I found out about them.
@@Ottophil More fool you, because the Rat is an excellent and expressive boost when you wind it back. People focus on the dirt to fuzz end of its capabilities, but it is really 3 pedals in one.
I feel I'm taking a class every time I watch this videos and I love it! this would be one of my fav signatures. Thank you.
Nicks drumming with that mask is what’s really impressive
nah, that is a substitute drummer, hidden behind that mask.
Nick was on vacation.
Are you sure it was a mask?
@@Ndlanding now we’re asking the real questions
True story: My very first pedal was a Turbo Rat. Bought it from my Van Halen guitar playing friend who first got me playing back in the 80s. He sold it to me for like $25. It was missing its back. I punished my parents with that, the Cort Effector guitar that they bought me for Christmas, and a no name solid state 10 watt amp for a little while before I started my GAS forced upgrades. Anyway, I ended up selling the Turbo Rat in the mid 90s and always missed it. I bought a new one off Reverb last year. I still love that little bastard. I got the Rat 2 as well. They make me happy.
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Just watched Emily Hopkins demo of this and it rocks!
Got mine recently. Absolutely incredible pedal. NAILS all the Rat tones perfectly. Brilliant work there people, thank you!
Just waiting for you to make a 9-mode Klon! ; )
I bought the pedal yesterday. Just from your shirt and drummer, it was worth the price alone, a good sounding pedal is a nice bonus!
Speaking of RAT love, Luke Bentham of The Dirty Nil’s rig is literally LP Custom -> Rat -> another Rat -> Amp. Super simple and a great rock sound.
Yeah I made a comment about a stack function but personally I really only care for the earlier 3 or 4 circuits
Who?
That’s interesting. Graham Coxon from Blur used to run a pedalboard with two Rat’s on it. What’s it about two Rats, I wonder.
Josh, I just picked one up for $225.00 on Reverb for a weekend special. I never wanted a RAT until you came out with this! Excellent playing!
Emily beat you to it lol Pls hire her. Make her the official demonstrator of JHS pedals.
He copies pedals, why not videos?
As a rat (animal) owner and a rat (pedal) owner, I very much appreciated this video.
I would buy an entire concept album of floydian jams from you guys!
Nick actually nailed Nick Mason’s vibe pretty well too. Too many people overplay when emulating Floyd. It’s about the space between the notes as much as it is the notes you play.
Drum fill at 18:42 - bravo, Nick!
This looks and sounds awesome! One concern: since it has so many components in a regular-sized box, will this be the kind of pedal that a tech will refuse to work on (in the unlikely event that a component fails someday)?
Yes I was thinking the same thing I would prefer the first three circuits with maybe a stack function That would be perfect for me
Buy three.. :D
My 90s Rat ll pedal has never met a guitar or amp that it doesn't get on with. Still my favourite pedal.
It just works.
I love this pedal! 👊🏻
Besides, 9 Rat pedals in 1... It’s the History of the Rat ... I’d say it needs to be placed in tne Smithsonian. It’s almost Free !
Where can you buy a Rat for $28 a pedal?
That’s 2 cups of coffee !
How did you teach a horse how to play drums ??? I’m mind Boggled !
right around 2013 a buddy started a very similar idea, packing a rat full of options. I helped him do some layout and art work for it. It turned out very cool, but it was just a fun passion project. this just brought back some memories
Nerd question for Josh - is there a LM308 in the PackRat for the early OG and Whiteface modes?
edit:- the answer is No, sadly. Also a Fat Rat would’ve been good for the Fat setting.
I opened the box and there was a Woodstream Corp Snap Trap welcoming me - these guys are nuts! ...love the pedal also
I can't tell the difference between rat models at all. Maybe they feel different when you're actually playing them, but when I hear collectors go crazy over a special variation that was only produced for X amount of years I can't help but wonder wtf they're hearing
It’s what they think they’re hearing…lol no one but them is going to notice, I’ve played 20 years and realized that while it’s fun to have cool stuff you’re one of the few people that’s actually going to appreciate in a live context. Oh well, we have a sickness…
Hearing people argue over op-amps diodes and what not, it’s like they saying: “The secret to the tone is the air in the factory that got trapped in the case that specific minute of a certain day. Mine is from a day before yours, and it sounds better.”
I’ve had a modern Boss DS-1 and a black label MIJ Boss DS-1. To me they sounded the exact same, but I sold them $100 apart 😂
@@joermnyc yup! lol it’s fun anyway
I have a no brackets blackface with the 1986 copyright board and I had an early rat 2 with the same 1986 circuit and they sounded very different when a/b testing them. The only difference was the led, so I think this rat pack pedal could offer a lot of differences.
I just want to leave some appreciation for that Rat drummer. There are not many drummers on RUclips that I would want in a band. He would be one.
MAGIC OP AMP: If the op amp is clipping, it ain't no myth. If it isn't, then, maybe , but there's other factors. I made a distortion that's just an op amp, no diodes. Gain of 10,000. We "rolled" a bunch of different op amps. The better the op amp the worse the sound. The 741 sounded best because of its crappy bandwidth. Higher frequencies get less gain...... If the op amp isn't distorting there's also a question of how the output Z of the op amp interfaces w the diode(s). Some op amps Z is < 1 ohm. The 741 is 150 ohms. So that might be important. In general people who can't hear any difference, think that those who can are only imagining it. Now maybe all op variances are still close enough so there is no difference, but I definitely think the conformist thinking " they're thinking differently, they must be wrong" dynamic is at work whether by chance it agrees w reality or not.
Like Josh, I like Fender guitars through Fender amps (Bassman preferred), but I never really liked the Rat so much. ...until I saw this. Now I need one.
So if you want hate comments, here you go, Josh. You and Andy are the people most responsible for me spending all my spare cash on pedals!
Boy am I mad!
Grr!
I just hope Rhett is watching this and hearing what real slide tone is. Watch and learn, Rhett. Ps tubescreamers rule!!
I bought this pedal recently and I absolutely love it. The only personal issue I have with it is the decision to keep the filter circuit direction exactly the same as their originals for each mode - since it's all housed in one box, to me it would've made more sense to rewire the circuits to all go in the same direction: i.e., brighter clockwise, darker counter-clockwise. I keep forgetting which way the filter goes in each mode. Some may argue that's less true to the originals but then again, they are all housed inside a modern case anyway... I feel like it would make more sense in the context of a multi-mode pedal.
But hey, the sounds are amazing and I'm truly impressed and grateful I can fit so many rats onto my pedalboard!