The devs probably thought that the manor was not large enough for many of these fights. Also, Cait Sith is not in the party for a long time, and they had to give him his moment to shine somewhere. This makes me hope that they make Cid and Vincent available quickly in REMAKE PART 3.
@@oxyman10 if they don't address it properly in the 3rd game, it will sell even worse. These slow annoying fillers are killing me. Great potential, but so many bad decisions in Rebirth.
@@stanislavkimov2779 Agreed 💯, one of the reasons why I took a break from it, I left off at the endgame. The filler and mini games detracted unnecessarily from an overall great Final Fantasy experience.
@@ryuuotaku35 Yes it is, it gives you a collectible and is the only chapter you can obtain it for the silly Johnny's wall. You can't repeat it unless you save the game previously or via autosave before de elevator.... have fun xD
This section was nice to play as Cait Sith, but whoever designed the box puzzles must’ve designed been a masochist at heart. I’m as stubborn as they come, so I don’t like having to look up tutorials. I’m kicking myself for having to do this, but I appreciate this guide. Thank you.
I LOVE Rebirth, but the ENTIRE Cait Sith Shinra Manor section is the WORST gameplay I’ve ever experienced in any game ever. How can anyone have play tested that segment and thought it was fun???
@djstuntfox Chocokings cape (if you got it) first strike materia and atb boost materia. Soon as the fight starts use both atb bars to Firaga or Thunderaga( I forgot their weakness but Firaga is fool proof anyway) after that you on your own 😂 but it shouldn't be too difficult after that cuz they should be stunlocked. Add Magic up materia too if you got it
THANK YOU! Holy cow this level pissed me off so much. There was no indication as to how to get through that elevator part… worst part about this entire game aside from aerith dying
They really couldn’t help themselves. My jaw hit the floor when the elevator paused to ask if I’d really like to throw more boxes. Did they actually play test this? Who thought this was fun?
This game has too many of these mandatory mini games. It’s absurd. Totally lost a ton of replayability because of it. Each time, they take me right out of the immersion of the game. Did they even play them before releasing it because they work like shit. 9/10 my hole. It’s ironically a 7/10. Need less of this BS in the final instalment.
I loved whenever I was forced to play as other members, cause I quickly am served a reminder that every party member is fucking awesome! I obviously switch off of Cloud in every battle but played as Cloud majority of the time. So I loved that I was locked as Cat Sith being the leader here…….. but the excitement quickly wore off. This was extremely annoying.
I borderline think someone should be fired for letting this section make it to the final product. This game needed roller skates after Cosmo Canyon. Absolutely horrible choice. I hate to admit it, but as much as i love this game.. Its quirks are really starting to rub me the wrong way.
Please spread the word please its just pissed me off there is a bug at this part where his MP AND HP flip changes places and his health is what your mp is and he dies in a hit and it will just happen no idea how but its a game breaking bug
I’ve heard a lot of complaints about the Yin and Yang boss, but I thought it was okay. Only took me two tries, and I only died because I wasn’t prepared for “Yang Takes Aim.” A pair of Revival Earrings negated that issue the second time. This box throwing puzzle stuff was truly… just not fun at all. I’m not sure what the developers were thinking. Wouldn’t have been so bad I guess if the mechanic wasn’t so uncomfortable to use.
Same. I’m replaying it on hard mode and it’s literally worse than any boss battle i’ve played so far. Plus, there’s another solo boss battle straight after cry😢
I have a huge Problem here. I never did Fights with this Character and die everytime because I can't go around Some enemies. I have no idea how I ever will be able to go thought this Part... Edit: turns out it was a Bug. I did manage it when I reloaded the Level.
Most of them are fun and silly. People complain about not getting silly mini games in FF, then we get them and people complain. There's no pleasing anyone, apparently. This section is garbage though.
You should play other kinds of games , this one is clearly not for you. I love all mini games, just like in OG, if you're interested only in the plot watch a film or read a book.
Thanks for making this, they made some things very unclear. I actually don’t mind playing as Cait Sith but when he’s the only party member you have you’re pretty limited. Definitely the low point of the game for me.
This game has been testing my patience from the get go. So many moments where I wanted to switch it off. Without this, I think I'd take my PS5 for a bath. Thank you.
This is just the WORST. Why is the aiming mechanic so terrible!? I've thrown the box at the right thing several times (according to this video) and nothing happens except the box smashes and acts like I hit the wrong spot. So frustrating. 5:30
Thank you! I was starting to get pissed off cause I couldnt figure out what "weight sensitive elevator" it was talking about. I thought I had to take another duct up another floor or something.
Is there any use for the boxes in the boss room, since there is a switch for it? Also I accidentally jumped down after the boss fight and had to throw another 3 boxes on the elevator to get up again, lmao... i was pissed.
This shines house thing was so unnecessarily long. The throwing controls are too difficult I can’t imagine if it’s on harder difficulty how unforgiving that would be😅😅😅 thank u sir
I can't get the red aiming line to go where I want it to go no matter how much I turn the left joy stick!! I'm on easy mode! This is easy????????? I just keep thinking that I paid 95 dollars for this torture!! OMG what a joke!! No wonder sales are going down!! Thank you for this guide, I will keep trying to follow it. I'm on the accelerant distribution where you have to throw a box into the revolving funnel and you make it look so easy.
Lol at this point I think the FF devs do this on purpose. Theres aways one part that everybody completely agrees on that sucks in FF games. The labyrinth in XV when you only had that stupid ring, and the lost woods type stuff in Zodiac Age
The game is bloated with garbage Ubisoft like repetitive things plus constant minigames and sections like this just tp make the game seems like one very long and full of content. From Gongaga to this section, ths game is feeling like a shore and terrible. I wanted to really love it but I really don't kbow if I will continue to waste my time thrpugh the end.
Yeah they did go crazy on the minigames' wanted to quit at times too. It does have some good parts though. I played some Baulders gate inbetween@@jonathanrivera8585
Is there a point to the box throwing minigame at 13:03? Is this yet another thing needed for the "Donate all treasures" to Johnny trophy? Has no one at this company designed a game before? So many shitty controls in so many minigames. Throwing boxes shouldn't be this needlessly complicated. You force the weakest slowest character to fight a fast, hard hitting monster solo. Maybe if half the game wasn't shitty minigames we would have gotten to play as Vincent and Cid.
This part is especially fun when your game is bugged and you only have 50 hp and the only way to go back is to restart the entire cait with section right when you get to the end
News update the newest trailer for the aftermath ~37th Reunion Terra,Biggs and Vicks travel with nemises 5 to the portal in the north western marshes mountains Kefka’s revived the train scene frenzy Chocobo Cloud Tifa talking about taking control of Holy rig to find a way to revive their soldier friends to give another shot at empowering themselves just in case of any holy oil failure,learn about Adele at White decide to go,Kefka arrives at frenzy chocobo Terra’s in love with the amusement,Cloud Tifa go to the oil rig beach throw rocks in the water.Tsunao arrive Looking for professor mac.Reunion ~35 is based on the types of espers and materia used to fuse the four elements in previous mystic quest thesis not necessarily to use all types of crystals on each character but each character does have their way to make magic happen,Kefka does take Terra to the summoners village and Rikku is working for white where they meet Kefka 1/10 of the way in oh yeah Kefka looks beautiful.the soldier get summoned by enclave bots and Adele’s remnants used for S cellular upgrade built a big replica to calm the gates.the floating island remnant and triad statues in the ocean
I'm about to giveup on finishing this game. I'm 75 hours and in this very part. The game from Gongaga to this part has been aweful. Plus all the bloat in the game with the same Scan rocks, activate antenas, scan more rocks to powerup summons, and keep pressing hundreds of time triangle to pickup materias is feeling like a shore. The controls and combat in thia area with Caith feel so bad, like you are not even playing. End of story, I don't see myself replaying this game again and may even sell it before its value drops.
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shinra manor went from a creepy manor with horrors inside to becoming a crate puzzle game and fighting as caith sith alone, truly a horror.
The devs probably thought that the manor was not large enough for many of these fights.
Also, Cait Sith is not in the party for a long time, and they had to give him his moment to shine somewhere.
This makes me hope that they make Cid and Vincent available quickly in REMAKE PART 3.
i hated every second of this
Bruh seriously his mechanics pissed me off 😂
@@adamcardona7991thank you bro it sucks luckily the video helped understand the insanity of this mechanic
Mee too
Worst part of the entire game.
Same i cant throw the box at the pipe it made me stop playing i put in 12 hours up until that point
I honestly dont understand who would think this part was a good idea
There is always that one jerk in the dev team.
I hated this section, at this point I just want to finish the game and delete it. The mini game overload ruined it for me.
@@oxyman10 if they don't address it properly in the 3rd game, it will sell even worse. These slow annoying fillers are killing me.
Great potential, but so many bad decisions in Rebirth.
@@stanislavkimov2779 Agreed 💯, one of the reasons why I took a break from it, I left off at the endgame. The filler and mini games detracted unnecessarily from an overall great Final Fantasy experience.
They made the box throwing mechanic way harder than it had to be. Every other game has a throwing mechanic that's really intuitive
Agreed, I hope they patch it
A lot of the mini games have the controls of a trainwreck.
@@TheNathanNAPALMsame here. Also, Does the throwing boxes 10 times a trophy? 🤔
@@ryuuotaku35 Yes it is, it gives you a collectible and is the only chapter you can obtain it for the silly Johnny's wall. You can't repeat it unless you save the game previously or via autosave before de elevator.... have fun xD
Omg the controls for aiming were a MESS.
i was so excited to play as cat sith! that excitement wore off very quickly…
The fact that barret has a gun arm and doesn't use it makes this whole puzzle section just annoying and unnecessary hard.
I thought that too 😂
Live footage of square enix devs creating this part: "Yeah this part absolutely fkin sucks, Ship it ✍️🔥🔥"
This is one of the worst chapters I’ve ever played what a joke
yeah it's bad
Here to remind you of Gongaga
Do you mean that Gongaga kind of sucks to explore?
@@shinyespurrzcosmo canyon is so much worse imo
@@jupiterbeanI learned to find the locations in one day. The map helps. It’s important to look around and see if there’s something there.
This section was nice to play as Cait Sith, but whoever designed the box puzzles must’ve designed been a masochist at heart.
I’m as stubborn as they come, so I don’t like having to look up tutorials. I’m kicking myself for having to do this, but I appreciate this guide. Thank you.
Don't forget the mini games with the awful controls(looking at you sit up).
I havent looked up a guide until this point the damn pipe under the elevator got me mad as f***
Hojo broke the fourth wall and decided to torture the player...
The 1st game was 100% better all these mini games and stupid quests ruined this game for me.
Same
When i thought things can't get worse than gongaga
I think the same
I didnt mind gongaga, then realised how big it actually was i was like i wanna leave 😂 then get here and be like how can this be even worse 😂
True )))
The game starts falling apart after corel.
@@jelitejbzzzstarts falling apart at Corel.*
Out here saving lives with this, thank god 🙏
I LOVE Rebirth, but the ENTIRE Cait Sith Shinra Manor section is the WORST gameplay I’ve ever experienced in any game ever. How can anyone have play tested that segment and thought it was fun???
I agreeeeeeeessss 😭😭😭
How not half the beta testers didn't even dropped the whole thing and said fuck this game? How no one stopped this from happening?!
Chapter 13 too..
It's stuff like this that puts down an otherwise great game.
Man what were the devs smoking????
yeah this part pretty much sucked, and will be the "part I dread doing" every play through lol
High off that Mako Kush
@AlphazXG_ lol
Nothing, there is always that one guy that has to put a frustrating part just for the sake of it.
@@azazel166ah ff9 desert temple.. memories 😏
Man I would have never gotten this without this video!🎉🎉🎉
So glad to help! Enjoy the rest of this wonderful game!
@@TheNathanNAPALM literally just did that red funnel puzzle and was about to turn the game off because I was so frustrated lol.
Was about to blow my head off, thanks man 🤙
Glad it helped, it’s an annoying part
Thank you so much for this guide, saved me so much time! I dont know why they made the controls so ridiculous. I just want the story!
"Beat the baddies on the other side" LMAO They become immune physical attacks and reflect lighting back at me.
Those two adjucators were harder than the boss lmao
😭 I'm shocked he didn't warn us that fight was gonna be so difficult
That was the only reason I jump into this to see how to tackle those "baddies" he loosely refers too
HOW DO YOU BEAT THEM?!?
@djstuntfox Chocokings cape (if you got it) first strike materia and atb boost materia. Soon as the fight starts use both atb bars to Firaga or Thunderaga( I forgot their weakness but Firaga is fool proof anyway) after that you on your own 😂 but it shouldn't be too difficult after that cuz they should be stunlocked. Add Magic up materia too if you got it
Thank you for making this video.
My pleasure, I’m glad it helped!
THANK YOU! Holy cow this level pissed me off so much. There was no indication as to how to get through that elevator part… worst part about this entire game aside from aerith dying
Thank you for the video. This was very helpful. You are a gamer. 🎉
They really couldn’t help themselves. My jaw hit the floor when the elevator paused to ask if I’d really like to throw more boxes. Did they actually play test this? Who thought this was fun?
Thank you so much!!!!!
6.50 was driving me crazy!!!
So glad it helped, I found this part so annoying my first playthrough and I knew others would get frustrated as well
The maintenance system said what to do. Throw the box before it reaches the destination
This game has too many of these mandatory mini games.
It’s absurd. Totally lost a ton of replayability because of it.
Each time, they take me right out of the immersion of the game.
Did they even play them before releasing it because they work like shit.
9/10 my hole. It’s ironically a 7/10. Need less of this BS in the final instalment.
I loved whenever I was forced to play as other members, cause I quickly am served a reminder that every party member is fucking awesome! I obviously switch off of Cloud in every battle but played as Cloud majority of the time.
So I loved that I was locked as Cat Sith being the leader here…….. but the excitement quickly wore off. This was extremely annoying.
God, this chapter, i just want it to finish. Give me that password now
I show it toward the end
I borderline think someone should be fired for letting this section make it to the final product. This game needed roller skates after Cosmo Canyon. Absolutely horrible choice. I hate to admit it, but as much as i love this game.. Its quirks are really starting to rub me the wrong way.
Real talk your my hero with this one
Glad it helped!
@@TheNathanNAPALM I didn’t care about getting the chests I just needed to get out of that manor for my sanity 😂
Every time I get momentum in this game, this shit comes up WOW. 😂 😂😂
I come here just to share my pain...
The aiming was the MAIN thing! Thanks!
This game has TOO MANY "the most annoying parts of the game"
First cosmo canyon, now this. God I can’t wait to finish this fucking game and move on
Thank you for this!!!
You rock for the guide. 🎉
From way too many forced mini games earlier to this I'm now at taking off 3 points from my review score.
The music in this section slaps, though.
Please spread the word please its just pissed me off there is a bug at this part where his MP AND HP flip changes places and his health is what your mp is and he dies in a hit and it will just happen no idea how but its a game breaking bug
im pretty sure thats a feature of an actual materia that swaps your hp and mp
Random chad guy(?) online saves the day once again 👏👏👍
Thank you so much!!!
You're welcome!
The heck... is this Shinra manor or Shinra Factory... so huge for just a manor
I’ve heard a lot of complaints about the Yin and Yang boss, but I thought it was okay. Only took me two tries, and I only died because I wasn’t prepared for “Yang Takes Aim.” A pair of Revival Earrings negated that issue the second time.
This box throwing puzzle stuff was truly… just not fun at all. I’m not sure what the developers were thinking. Wouldn’t have been so bad I guess if the mechanic wasn’t so uncomfortable to use.
All the goodwill they built up with Cait Sith being so well done, so charming and fun - almost went down the drain here.
How can you have a different suit for Aerith?
After you have beat the game once you can pick any of the outfits to wear anywhere
Why can't Barrett shot in this part. It makes no sense.
Thank you so much. This guide really saved me some time.
Glad it helped!
Who tf thought this was enjoyble to play?!
Anyway ty for the vid :)
“Beat the baddies on the other side”
Me pissed off bc I’m stuck on this part specifically
Same. I’m replaying it on hard mode and it’s literally worse than any boss battle i’ve played so far. Plus, there’s another solo boss battle straight after cry😢
I have a huge Problem here. I never did Fights with this Character and die everytime because I can't go around Some enemies. I have no idea how I ever will be able to go thought this Part...
Edit: turns out it was a Bug. I did manage it when I reloaded the Level.
So annoying that with r1 button i wasnt able to break the pipe. It works correctly if you use the pad instead the button
10:10
I wish the game guided you a bit for this part. Was pretty lost because it doesn't say to throw a crate at a generator from above.
This games pacing is ruined by trash mini games
Most of them are fun and silly. People complain about not getting silly mini games in FF, then we get them and people complain. There's no pleasing anyone, apparently.
This section is garbage though.
You should play other kinds of games , this one is clearly not for you. I love all mini games, just like in OG, if you're interested only in the plot watch a film or read a book.
This game is painful to play 90% of the time.
This game is full of frustrating parts and this is one of them
I love this game but I can’t stress enough how much I fucking hate this part
Thanks for making this, they made some things very unclear. I actually don’t mind playing as Cait Sith but when he’s the only party member you have you’re pretty limited. Definitely the low point of the game for me.
Door code: enter camera mode and help ya self 😆
Friggin walkthrough's bro... they get that traffic usually but man are they a drag to make lol. Hope all is well. God bless brotha.
This game has been testing my patience from the get go. So many moments where I wanted to switch it off. Without this, I think I'd take my PS5 for a bath. Thank you.
Lol, yes glad I could help and your PS5 didn't take a bath
This is just the WORST. Why is the aiming mechanic so terrible!? I've thrown the box at the right thing several times (according to this video) and nothing happens except the box smashes and acts like I hit the wrong spot. So frustrating. 5:30
Thank god for your guide I was pissed in 5 mins and gave up
How did u change the outfits during the story?
You can on second playthrough
Thank you! I really had trouble with the 3 boxes on the elevator😅
This part made me rage so hard, 0/10 hated so much, thanks for this
Thank you! I was starting to get pissed off cause I couldnt figure out what "weight sensitive elevator" it was talking about. I thought I had to take another duct up another floor or something.
I wouldn't mind going through the entire dungeon with the whole party. Why the hell did they have to set up solo fights with Cait Sith GOD
i cant beat the baddies on the other side, thank you for explaining how to do that, really helped!
Is there any use for the boxes in the boss room, since there is a switch for it?
Also I accidentally jumped down after the boss fight and had to throw another 3 boxes on the elevator to get up again, lmao... i was pissed.
Can you retry the elevator boxes minigame? Is it worth it?
I was wondering the same myself. If you hit the 10 boxes, do you get something truly worth it?
This shines house thing was so unnecessarily long. The throwing controls are too difficult I can’t imagine if it’s on harder difficulty how unforgiving that would be😅😅😅 thank u sir
It is so frustrating! Sometimes you hold the crate in your hands but you cannot throw it, so you must put it down to pick it up again!😢 So broken
I can't get the red aiming line to go where I want it to go no matter how much I turn the left joy stick!! I'm on easy mode! This is easy????????? I just keep thinking that I paid 95 dollars for this torture!! OMG what a joke!! No wonder sales are going down!! Thank you for this guide, I will keep trying to follow it. I'm on the accelerant distribution where you have to throw a box into the revolving funnel and you make it look so easy.
Try to change where you are standing, get real close to the rail without touching it
This section gave me a headache, thanks for the guide
Saw a purple treasure chest behind bars there at the start.…. When you first free Barrett and Aerith. Never figured out how to get to it.
Legit the same way you open the other door 🤣
@@keithpeterson3805 Didn’t see a switch
Thank you. That 6 min mark was getting on my nerves. Wasting my time to enjoy the game 🙃
Understandable
Lol at this point I think the FF devs do this on purpose. Theres aways one part that everybody completely agrees on that sucks in FF games. The labyrinth in XV when you only had that stupid ring, and the lost woods type stuff in Zodiac Age
Or that last orb puzzle in FFX
why did they add this to the fing game
The game is bloated with garbage Ubisoft like repetitive things plus constant minigames and sections like this just tp make the game seems like one very long and full of content.
From Gongaga to this section, ths game is feeling like a shore and terrible. I wanted to really love it but I really don't kbow if I will continue to waste my time thrpugh the end.
Yeah they did go crazy on the minigames' wanted to quit at times too. It does have some good parts though. I played some Baulders gate inbetween@@jonathanrivera8585
Thank you
Holy FUCK this is a disaster of a section. Who green lit
Did anyone find gravity materia in the mansion?
so far in this dungeon: just gravity orb, which is an item.
The worst thing for me was trying to throw with that damn moogle. I experimented with Cait Sith in earlier chapters, so I didn’t mind combat with him.
thanks so much for this guide. worst dungeon and throwing mechanic in an almost perfectly good game.
Glad it helped!
Is there a point to the box throwing minigame at 13:03? Is this yet another thing needed for the "Donate all treasures" to Johnny trophy? Has no one at this company designed a game before? So many shitty controls in so many minigames. Throwing boxes shouldn't be this needlessly complicated. You force the weakest slowest character to fight a fast, hard hitting monster solo. Maybe if half the game wasn't shitty minigames we would have gotten to play as Vincent and Cid.
I'm two goddamn seconds from telling this game to fuck right off.
Hang in there!
Almost dropped the game I swear
Came here for the door code, thanks!!.....👍👍👍👊👏🥳
Thank you!! So damn much!!! 😂😂😂😂
This part is especially fun when your game is bugged and you only have 50 hp and the only way to go back is to restart the entire cait with section right when you get to the end
That's not a bug, you equipped the materia that switches HP and mp which can be found in this area. Section still sucks though.
@@kace91able I found that out eventually I don’t think I’ve ever been that mad at my self for not reading a menu💀
Thank you so much
News update the newest trailer for the aftermath ~37th Reunion Terra,Biggs and Vicks travel with nemises 5 to the portal in the north western marshes mountains Kefka’s revived the train scene frenzy Chocobo Cloud Tifa talking about taking control of Holy rig to find a way to revive their soldier friends to give another shot at empowering themselves just in case of any holy oil failure,learn about Adele at White decide to go,Kefka arrives at frenzy chocobo Terra’s in love with the amusement,Cloud Tifa go to the oil rig beach throw rocks in the water.Tsunao arrive Looking for professor mac.Reunion ~35 is based on the types of espers and materia used to fuse the four elements in previous mystic quest thesis not necessarily to use all types of crystals on each character but each character does have their way to make magic happen,Kefka does take Terra to the summoners village and Rikku is working for white where they meet Kefka 1/10 of the way in oh yeah Kefka looks beautiful.the soldier get summoned by enclave bots and Adele’s remnants used for S cellular upgrade built a big replica to calm the gates.the floating island remnant and triad statues in the ocean
I felt i should have been paid a wage for this section. When did they stop making games fun?
lol it is pretty awful
HOW DO YOU BEAT THE BADDIES
This game isn't 100% Gongaga and this prove that
code is at 14:59: 36 10 59 97
The devs who are responsible for this section belong fired and without a job for the rest of their lives
This was super helpful very annoying part lol
Omg i keep dying when fighting yin and yang
Inputting the code is just the chery on top of an absolutely miserable segment
At this point in the Game i really dont no why im playing this game.
Completely agree with you on that one. I asked myself that exact question after playing the first 5 to 10 hours of this game.
I'm about to giveup on finishing this game. I'm 75 hours and in this very part. The game from Gongaga to this part has been aweful. Plus all the bloat in the game with the same Scan rocks, activate antenas, scan more rocks to powerup summons, and keep pressing hundreds of time triangle to pickup materias is feeling like a shore.
The controls and combat in thia area with Caith feel so bad, like you are not even playing.
End of story, I don't see myself replaying this game again and may even sell it before its value drops.
My part is bugged his health is 50 and mp is 6000 wtf is going on