Thanks ROB. It’s the best of both worlds and will give you big reliable power over and over again. Love 4 rotor awd car. She’s going to be a beast once all the little kinks are worked out 💪🏽
Best video I've ever watched in my entire life about rotary engines porting. Thank you so much for the video, God bless you you sir. I'm on a J-port now making just around 700hp. But I wanted to know more about semi peripheralbport because I would like to have that in the future!
Hey,man. Just watched your video and I was wondering...what happens to the water jacket after sleeving it ? Does that car run hotter ? Does it over heat ?
I really enjoy this type of content. It's more than just opinions and hearsay, you gave us real examples of how and why they differ. I had never even considered your point of apex seal cooling before. Thanks for sharing
Hi from Australia 🇦🇺 Absolutely brilliant video. I have been into Rotary Engines for decades and never knew a sharp closing street/extend port can brap like a bridge. Cheers for teaching me something new. Greatly appreciate it 👍
Thank you!! I am a huge fan of changing the closing edge so that the corner seal edge closes later but the oil seal edge is untouched. This aims the closing edge, where the air flows over, at the center of the chamber at the point of highest chamber expansion rate. It also softens the reversion pulse as the rotor closes the port, for less shock pushing the airflow back up the intake
Awesome video! Thank you! I'm building a turbo II for my miata based Exocet. Planing to supercharged it too. Seriously thinking about your semi-p port. You give me plenty of reasons to go that route.
5:00 cool track playing in the background - Cage the Elephant, No Rest For The Wicked. Super informative video, I was paying attention all the way through that's how I heard the track...
Solid video man. Really appreciate this kind of info. Looking to get a Series 4/5 RX7 soon and have been scouring the web for rotary knowledge, as it will be my first experience. Subbed!
The apex seal issue can also be caused by excess heat build up around the plug area, causing a high spot on the housing and wearing the centre of the seal (so I was told by one of the most reputable builders around)
I totally agree with a Street port being better than a Bridge port..they last longer and if done right with a proper exhaust will still create a brapping idle..and semi is awesome..thanks for sharing
I'm building a semi PP 12a now, and had a couple questions. You mentioned you'd do a D port on the exhaust for a turbo semi. What about an NA build? I think my plans would be to do a mild street port and clean up on the side housing intake ports, but I'm not sure what to do for the exhaust. Rpm goal is the occasional blast to 9 with clearanced, unbalanced rotors, upgraded oil pump but no pressure increase, renesis stat gears and bearings. I would love to hear your input. Amazing video on porting.
not much. I'm not no rotary guru but a 12a carbureted non turbo won't get much hp increase even with porting. Unless you go peripheral, expect 2-10 hp out of a street port, maybe 8+ on an extend port, not sure about the other porting
I figure I have warped apex seals in my race fd engine right now for the exact reasons you mentioned. I’ll be pulling the motor in a week or so and once cleaned and prepped for inspection Ill know the full story. I’m with you on the Bridgeport thing too. I have built them and they sound great but my engineering brain never liked it. I run a much oversized street port and exhaust ports and my car on 7psi ( spring pressure only ) of boost made 404whp and the power curve was stunning.
My Rotary Life yes. The thing is. The bigger you port the farther you push the power band over. You will start to get that chugging sound and feel down low from the over lap. It all depends on what you goal is and what your doing with the car.
Was thinking to only have a half bridge on the secondaries and extend port the primaries. Turbo 20B setup will be street driven. The exhaust leaking into the intake is what put me off a semi pp.
Hi thanx for the awesome information I'm from south africa when you are doing your semi pp do you weld the semi pp to the housing or do you just press fit them? I would just like your professional opinion if you don't mind sharing your information and expertise. Regards Shane
No I don’t weld them. We cnc the hole and block off plates. The tube stops about 5mm to the housing surface. Then I fill the housing with epoxy and place the plates in to the holes to block the water jackets.
Is it possible to do a semi p port on a Renesis engine if you swapped the rx8 rotor housings for rx7 FD rotor housings while still keeping the rx8 internals ? What would be HP numbers and daily driving capabilities for a naturally aspirated build like that?
Julian Guzman you can do that but you would have to delete the 6 port actuator. It’s in the same spot as the semi p port. It would loose a bit of low end. 275hp range
11-12-2019.Do you know if amy cars with rotery run on NH3 and nitra?The second is the roter hollow form , back in 1966 my dad talked to some Big Mazda people regarding a longer hollow form have you incountered any?Thanck you.
What I don't understand is why hasn't anybody gone full P-port, and then drop in an asymmetrical reducer ring to tune the timing and overlap? If you used reducer rings, you could have something with a great huge hogged-out hole that flows like crazy but doesn't have any more overlap than a mild street port.
So what would you recommend for an NA 12A? I’m thinking about buying an FB RX7 with the intent of pulling the motor and porting. It would end up being daily driven pretty frequently, but keep in mind that my standards for a daily aren’t exactly that high (I’ve been daily driving my 944 race car for about a year now. No a/c, stripped interior, bucket seats, harnesses, loud ass exhaust, etc). Looking for somewhere in the range of about 250hp while keeping the fuel consumption at above 10mpg. Is this possible or am I dreaming?
that bridge at 8:00 looked alright. you hit nail on the head. you didnt deburr, chamfer all that good stuff. I personally like that fact he kept a bit of distance from the water seal. will defo make it iastlonger
But in all cases the bridge width is thin? Why not leave the bridge width the diameter of the corner seal and allow a good section of meat behind it? Personally I think a bridge only disrupts air flow? Rather a decent extend port!
What about 'streamlining' intersection of port and plate? Old work indicated a bend in intake duct improve performance, this could be from blocking mix going backwards, but at full throttle, experiments pointed to better performance and efficiency with peripheral ports. Besides in sport and aftermarket versions, Mazda always had side intake ports; in the Renesis, also side exhaust ports. What a mesh!
what about for NA application? looking to get more power from my gsl se when/if my stock motor ever gives, but would like to keep it na. Would you still suggest a semi p-port?
MazdaGuy well p port is nice but you have to understand it’s not going to be a daily driver. It’s very rough at idle and getting going but she will scream.
@@Rotorguy479 About n/a applications, is a semi pp worth in an rx8 if its daily driven without driver caring much about crazy horsepower numbers? I mean, I ve seen bridgies making 250-260 hp in n/a rx8's. Can a semi pp make that much power while being drivable and more reliable than the bridge? I mean something like a light semi pp that will not be used in a drag car but in a daily driven rx8 which means driveability and some reliablility as im not looking for high horsepower as I mentioned before(otherwise i'd go full pp) Sorry for my english and thanks in advance!
@@Rotorguy479 Thanks for your answer but may I ask another question? For an rx8, how to get some reliable n/a horsepower while maintaining some driveability for daily driving? Is a streetport the only solution? Or bridgeport is the other one but sacrifices reliability much?
Thanks so much. Love the information share. I was wondering about P ports. Have an engine that needs major work. Actually so much work on the FD... My love and hate relationship.... had it since 2003.
Have you considered making a D shaped semi p? That way you could delay the timing. My thinking is that a D that's well chamfered to make the flow go out and up would reduce overlap and flow better. Your porting looks like mine, I like to get a smooth curve inside the port to help keep the flow attached to the surface. Some people don't get it that the air flow is upward not just straight into the chamber, so they put sharp edges on everything.
Red Bat Racing yes but it’s very hard to do it that small. Also it’s really not as bad as you would think because the semi p port is still between the side ports. Over lap is not as bad as a full p port
What would you recommend to be done to a 13B-REW to make 700whp & 9k redline? I know it has to be all clearanced and balanced correctly, would a semi pp port be capable of making that type of hp safely? What type of turbo can happily achieve that goal? I know some street ability will be taken away but I don't care, looking to get some advice for when I get my RX7 FD and start building it. The most obvious things I can think of I need are studs, side clearanced rotors & lightened, How big injectors? What seals do you recommend OEM or aftermarket? What does it take to safely run at that hp? Awesome video aswell I know so many guys appreciate your videos because of the information you provide, Cheers
77Knives yes. That’s what it’s for. Also with the clearancing and balancing it will go to 10k easy. All the drag cars you see running 6 seconds are semi p port engines.
This might be a dumb question but can you run a semi pp on a naturally aspirated 12a? I have seen countless people talking about semi pp with the 13b and boost and all that.
Dont fool with a renesis find you a solid 13b rew or find some old gsl housings and block off the exhaust ports on the renesis. Factory side exhaust port renesis are junk
Awesome video, I'm sold on the semi. I'm actually on a lookout for a rx8 to then later on have it semied, but one question, is it better just getting a13b rew and get it done then oh the renesis, I know they have different designs altogether, and I would think cause of emission laws they kinda lowered its performance somehow with this renesis. Also you have a new subscriber 👍
Hello, I’m in the same boat as you as I’ve just bought an rx8 and am also sticks between the renesis and the rew, did you ever end up deciding on which one to go with
@@ninjafang2 I haven't gotten the RX-8 yet, it's been difficult finding one around here in the condition I want it at. But I'm leaning towards the rew for sure in the build .
Great video! I am looking to buy a RX-8 and have ‘the brap’. Semi P is a big change in the engine bay, so still thinking of a bridge port. Any recommendations? I’m aiming for 300BHP max(for the street and taking it to a race track, not a dragstrip). Want to get the power from balance and high RPM
What about beveling or streamlining the intersections between ducts and working surface? Meaning the ports interface. You have a chart about this in 'Manual of Automobile technik', by BOSCH. An straight angle generates turbulence, losses, beveling improves a bit the situation, a parabolic section of duct when entering working chamber gives near 100 % Efficiency. It also mitigates the shock of seals every time it pass over port, the hammering as in 'chattered marks'. Blessings +
I'll be honest I love my bridges but I can't argue with anything you said. I do want your take on the semi pp reni hybrid motor with gslse housings with semi pps aswell as the exhaust. I do like that my bridges tend to make good power and for cheap cheap. But I can't say they last very long at best a year with as many reused parts as I can get away with. I do think since I'm getting low on housings if I'm gonna buy new I might aswell look into a better option. Still I can't say for cheap fun a bridge port is a bad idea as long as you can tune for it and make an intake cause all the OEM ones are too long. Thanks
Awesome Video. I’m building a unicorn 4 rotor. I’ve never worked on one. Sounds like the semi port might be a better idea than the Bridgeport. I’m really building a rotary for the sound. If you were building a 4 turboed 4 rotor what would be your dream build without getting into billet pieces?
What is the longevity of the sealant around the Semi P port/how many miles did you run that motor? I'd be concerned about differing expansion rates when it heat cycles.
Thanks so much for this!! My coolant seal went and about to rebuild my motor and was pondering BP for longevity. So will skip it and go semi P.. Will semi P and my street port still be good for street? Running factory turbo s4 setup making 320hp (at wheels). I'm hoping for a solid over built 400hp on standard turbo (if possible). Thanks again man from Australia!
Joe GSPADE Galletta don’t do a semi p port on a stock turbo. The street port works fine with a semi p port.the semi p port will flow way to much for that stock turbo and egts through the Roof
@@Rotorguy479 thnx heaps man, my mate the previous owner, just said the same thing. Subscribed to your channel. Rotary community needs good advice from boys like you and it's greatly appreciated by novice guys like me :)
@@thokdesign if you haven't already, port the hell out of the wastegate of that stock S4 turbo, mine was boost spiking so bad it was barely drivable after I street ported + better exhaust (eg no cats) with the stock wastegate, ended up doing a hybrid turbo (bigger front end, stock rear end) but ported out the wastegate for some sort of boost control. 320atw with a stock S4 seems oddly high though, sure that wasn't crank/estimated crank? I thought they typically ran out of puff in the mid 200HP sorta range, not 300+
Mazory it would all depend on how much power you want NA. The most with a street port I’ve got is about 170hp. If you want more then that do a semi and it will make over 200hp.
Good video, how does fuel consumption compare with bridge vs semi pp? My FD is stock, for me I was going to stick with stock ports or a mild street port but I'm wondering if there is a big fuel consumption difference between the 3 types? My guess is stick with stock ports for 300-400hp range?
i went to one of my countries best rotary builders and was told when i asked for a semi pp turbo it was to much for the road.. yet they suggested i do a bp turbo.. i walked away as i wasnt getting what i asked for.
draggeeks1 I do a drag semi different then a street semi. I do a medium street port and a Medium D port on exhaust. With a 3/4 semi p port. It works great on the street paired with the right turbo. It’s a beast on the street and not to choppy getting off the line. Some people go over board when porting and that is not good for the street.
@txddyfarquh3916 obviously 🙄 not. I did not purchase the vehicle. It was purchased by my dad who barely has time for some of the cars because there's too many project cars on top of one another.
Awesome video man. Didn’t know much about bridge ports
Rob Dahm thanks rob. Yeah they will give you the sound but don’t expect them to last like a street port car or push them to hard.
It’s funny, I looked this up right after watching the semi-p 3 rotor video
gettin a semi just watchin this vid aye man
Thanks ROB. It’s the best of both worlds and will give you big reliable power over and over again. Love 4 rotor awd car. She’s going to be a beast once all the little kinks are worked out 💪🏽
I Rob, I love you
These are the kind of videos we need. Rotary information is so hard to come by sometimes. Thanks for the info
8:37 "Stevie Wonder was porting this bad boy" XD good one!
All the information about the wear on seals was so amazing. Learned a ton.
Best video I've ever watched in my entire life about rotary engines porting. Thank you so much for the video, God bless you you sir. I'm on a J-port now making just around 700hp. But I wanted to know more about semi peripheralbport because I would like to have that in the future!
j ports are shit so youve mangled your water seal for 700hp you can do a jc cosmo stage and make 950hp with the rite supporting mods
Thank you bud. I hope this helps you get to your power goals.
I'm heavily debating rotary swapping my Miata and this really helped me figure out what I should do for reliable performance.
Daniel Moger well thank you. I’m glade I could help. We are doing a Miata now.
@@Rotorguy479 how lovely! Can't wait to see videos on it!
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Hey,man. Just watched your video and I was wondering...what happens to the water jacket after sleeving it ? Does that car run hotter ? Does it over heat ?
This channel is completely underrated thank you so much for your time and knowledge
Joshua Chandra thank you so much. I will be posting more soon.
Good information, was really keen on a semi-P, but now i'm sold. Thanks for the insight.
I really enjoy this type of content. It's more than just opinions and hearsay, you gave us real examples of how and why they differ. I had never even considered your point of apex seal cooling before. Thanks for sharing
Porutac your welcome 🙏 this was all learned by doing it.
Hi from Australia 🇦🇺
Absolutely brilliant video. I have been into Rotary Engines for decades and never knew a sharp closing street/extend port can brap like a bridge. Cheers for teaching me something new. Greatly appreciate it 👍
Thank you!! I am a huge fan of changing the closing edge so that the corner seal edge closes later but the oil seal edge is untouched. This aims the closing edge, where the air flows over, at the center of the chamber at the point of highest chamber expansion rate. It also softens the reversion pulse as the rotor closes the port, for less shock pushing the airflow back up the intake
Very unique 3D visual perspective you've just created! Cheers
Absolutely spot on bud.
Great explanation of different ports and the pros/cons. thank you.
Awesome video! Thank you! I'm building a turbo II for my miata based Exocet. Planing to supercharged it too. Seriously thinking about your semi-p port. You give me plenty of reasons to go that route.
Sounds like a great setup to me. Send it.
5:00 cool track playing in the background - Cage the Elephant, No Rest For The Wicked.
Super informative video, I was paying attention all the way through that's how I heard the track...
RSA Jay thanks bud
I want a semi 12a.. people say I’m wasting my time but I’ve always been partial to the 12a ❤️
12As are awesome, do it man.
cant beat the sound of a loud brappn 12a
Solid video man. Really appreciate this kind of info. Looking to get a Series 4/5 RX7 soon and have been scouring the web for rotary knowledge, as it will be my first experience.
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This was a fantastic video sir! Your expertise is obvious and inspiring!! Please keep it up 👍
Thanks for your knowledge! I learned more from you about porting than anybody else!
Awesome and accurate information!! Everything I needed to know before building.
The apex seal issue can also be caused by excess heat build up around the plug area, causing a high spot on the housing and wearing the centre of the seal (so I was told by one of the most reputable builders around)
glen scholz yes very true. The semi limits that from happening and also tuning. To high of EGTs Will cause it too.
I totally agree with a Street port being better than a Bridge port..they last longer and if done right with a proper exhaust will still create a brapping idle..and semi is awesome..thanks for sharing
Man I would love to get into working on rotary such a cool niche
Thanks. This reminds me of when I was porting me 2 stroke race moped.
I'm building a semi PP 12a now, and had a couple questions. You mentioned you'd do a D port on the exhaust for a turbo semi. What about an NA build? I think my plans would be to do a mild street port and clean up on the side housing intake ports, but I'm not sure what to do for the exhaust. Rpm goal is the occasional blast to 9 with clearanced, unbalanced rotors, upgraded oil pump but no pressure increase, renesis stat gears and bearings. I would love to hear your input. Amazing video on porting.
Chur bro! awesome simple info thanks for taking the time to make this video. Chur from NZ
Very informative I think I'll try and go with a semi p on my RX8 instead thank you for this type of information
that clean cream stock FB in the back❤️
Thanks alot for this educational video and continue to do more.
Good info! Defiantly going to do a semi p on my next build!
*Definitely.
how do i purchase of new piston of rotary and block linear/??
I now know more about porting than I ever needed to. But I also learned how to spot a shitty port. Thanks bud :)
how much power is feasible out of a 12a that's still carburated WITHOUT making it less reliable. I'm looking to get reasonable power without boosting.
not much. I'm not no rotary guru but a 12a carbureted non turbo won't get much hp increase even with porting. Unless you go peripheral, expect 2-10 hp out of a street port, maybe 8+ on an extend port, not sure about the other porting
Ive gotten 158whp on Webber carb with a street port.
Sublime playing in the back makes it that much better.
Building a street ported motor for my Datsun. It will be carbureted. Do you recommend semi peripheral port for a carbureted street driven motor ?
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Not at all. EFI yes but it will be very hard to get tuned right.
I figure I have warped apex seals in my race fd engine right now for the exact reasons you mentioned. I’ll be pulling the motor in a week or so and once cleaned and prepped for inspection Ill know the full story. I’m with you on the Bridgeport thing too. I have built them and they sound great but my engineering brain never liked it. I run a much oversized street port and exhaust ports and my car on 7psi ( spring pressure only ) of boost made 404whp and the power curve was stunning.
My Rotary Life yes. The thing is. The bigger you port the farther you push the power band over. You will start to get that chugging sound and feel down low from the over lap. It all depends on what you goal is and what your doing with the car.
Is it possible to run a Rotary on just a P-Port in the housing with a portless iron.
Ups and downs of doing so?
Thx a lot in advance :)
Daniel yes of course. That’s about every full race NA engine is. But you have a high idle and fuel wasted out the exhaust. Crazy power band and sound.
What would you recommend for a naturally aspirated car?
How do you mark the max and min timming so you dont pass them? Can you rin the edges so they dont drag the seals or thats a nono?? Nice work man!!
Was thinking to only have a half bridge on the secondaries and extend port the primaries. Turbo 20B setup will be street driven. The exhaust leaking into the intake is what put me off a semi pp.
Adriano Chiro it’s not that bad. You don’t do an extended port. Just do a small street port with a 3/4 semi. It will be a lot more reliable.
Hi thanx for the awesome information I'm from south africa when you are doing your semi pp do you weld the semi pp to the housing or do you just press fit them? I would just like your professional opinion if you don't mind sharing your information and expertise. Regards Shane
No I don’t weld them. We cnc the hole and block off plates. The tube stops about 5mm to the housing surface. Then I fill the housing with epoxy and place the plates in to the holes to block the water jackets.
what is the hp on a semi pp turbo engine?
What is the driveability like on a semi?
Good if you don’t go crazy with the exhaust port size.
Is it possible to do a semi p port on a Renesis engine if you swapped the rx8 rotor housings for rx7 FD rotor housings while still keeping the rx8 internals ? What would be HP numbers and daily driving capabilities for a naturally aspirated build like that?
Julian Guzman you can do that but you would have to delete the 6 port actuator. It’s in the same spot as the semi p port. It would loose a bit of low end. 275hp range
Do you semi port remediar Rx8 engines as well, where is your shop?
11-12-2019.Do you know if amy cars with rotery run on NH3 and nitra?The second is the roter hollow form , back in 1966 my dad talked to some Big Mazda people regarding a longer hollow form have you incountered any?Thanck you.
Great info here, thanks for sharing!
What I don't understand is why hasn't anybody gone full P-port, and then drop in an asymmetrical reducer ring to tune the timing and overlap? If you used reducer rings, you could have something with a great huge hogged-out hole that flows like crazy but doesn't have any more overlap than a mild street port.
what are your thoughts about a Six-Port Semi-P-Port ?
They work great with the right size exhaust port.
So what would you recommend for an NA 12A? I’m thinking about buying an FB RX7 with the intent of pulling the motor and porting. It would end up being daily driven pretty frequently, but keep in mind that my standards for a daily aren’t exactly that high (I’ve been daily driving my 944 race car for about a year now. No a/c, stripped interior, bucket seats, harnesses, loud ass exhaust, etc). Looking for somewhere in the range of about 250hp while keeping the fuel consumption at above 10mpg. Is this possible or am I dreaming?
Great info! Where are you guys located?
We are in MD
that bridge at 8:00 looked alright. you hit nail on the head. you didnt deburr, chamfer all that good stuff. I personally like that fact he kept a bit of distance from the water seal. will defo make it iastlonger
But in all cases the bridge width is thin? Why not leave the bridge width the diameter of the corner seal and allow a good section of meat behind it? Personally I think a bridge only disrupts air flow? Rather a decent extend port!
How much does a semi p rebuild go for more or less
Sancu more power more money
What about 'streamlining' intersection of port and plate? Old work indicated a bend in intake duct improve performance, this could be from blocking mix going backwards, but at full throttle, experiments pointed to better performance and efficiency with peripheral ports.
Besides in sport and aftermarket versions, Mazda always had side intake ports; in the Renesis, also side exhaust ports.
What a mesh!
why is this filmed verticaly?
what about for NA application? looking to get more power from my gsl se when/if my stock motor ever gives, but would like to keep it na. Would you still suggest a semi p-port?
MazdaGuy well p port is nice but you have to understand it’s not going to be a daily driver. It’s very rough at idle and getting going but she will scream.
@@Rotorguy479 About n/a applications, is a semi pp worth in an rx8 if its daily driven without driver caring much about crazy horsepower numbers? I mean, I ve seen bridgies making 250-260 hp in n/a rx8's. Can a semi pp make that much power while being drivable and more reliable than the bridge? I mean something like a light semi pp that will not be used in a drag car but in a daily driven rx8 which means driveability and some reliablility as im not looking for high horsepower as I mentioned before(otherwise i'd go full pp) Sorry for my english and thanks in advance!
JDM Lover I wouldn’t do it on it. It’s not going to give you the best results
@@Rotorguy479 Thanks for your answer but may I ask another question? For an rx8, how to get some reliable n/a horsepower while maintaining some driveability for daily driving? Is a streetport the only solution? Or bridgeport is the other one but sacrifices reliability much?
Thanks so much. Love the information share. I was wondering about P ports. Have an engine that needs major work. Actually so much work on the FD... My love and hate relationship.... had it since 2003.
We all have a love hate story with a rotary bud. 😂 that’s why I’m here.
can you make a huge PP and use a valve to open it up at hight rpm? that way you have low idel and open it up at higher rpm, kinda like a "vtec"
Rafael Baggio Secches yes you can do that too.
Mazda made facorty cast peripheral port housings for their 12a, 13b and 26b, (the Lemans 24 hour 767b) engines.
How about for a nice N/A 13b engine what ports you recommend for max Hp?
If running a full bridge port motor non turbo, would you recommend a one piece seal?
Have you considered making a D shaped semi p? That way you could delay the timing. My thinking is that a D that's well chamfered to make the flow go out and up would reduce overlap and flow better. Your porting looks like mine, I like to get a smooth curve inside the port to help keep the flow attached to the surface. Some people don't get it that the air flow is upward not just straight into the chamber, so they put sharp edges on everything.
Red Bat Racing yes but it’s very hard to do it that small. Also it’s really not as bad as you would think because the semi p port is still between the side ports. Over lap is not as bad as a full p port
Thank you for this video! Learned a lot!
What would you recommend to be done to a 13B-REW to make 700whp & 9k redline? I know it has to be all clearanced and balanced correctly, would a semi pp port be capable of making that type of hp safely? What type of turbo can happily achieve that goal? I know some street ability will be taken away but I don't care, looking to get some advice for when I get my RX7 FD and start building it. The most obvious things I can think of I need are studs, side clearanced rotors & lightened, How big injectors? What seals do you recommend OEM or aftermarket? What does it take to safely run at that hp? Awesome video aswell I know so many guys appreciate your videos because of the information you provide, Cheers
77Knives yes. That’s what it’s for. Also with the clearancing and balancing it will go to 10k easy. All the drag cars you see running 6 seconds are semi p port engines.
@@Rotorguy479 Doesn't the E shaft take the hit when you rev over 9k? Cheers on your reply mate, looking forward to more videos.
Thanks for d info
Nice Video Sir!
I’m a firm believer in a small half bridge being quite reliable when done right. Leave the lots of material on the bridge.
How big should the exhaust port be if the engine is naturally aspirated ? (Carburetor)
This might be a dumb question but can you run a semi pp on a naturally aspirated 12a? I have seen countless people talking about semi pp with the 13b and boost and all that.
Yes you can. It will make good power
how much would a peripheral port cost on a renesis 13b?
I know is 750 to semi pp the housings
Dont fool with a renesis find you a solid 13b rew or find some old gsl housings and block off the exhaust ports on the renesis. Factory side exhaust port renesis are junk
Cosmo 13B block is the best.
Seth Nicodemus 1000 for the machine work
@@Rotorguy479 i would like to get a set of housing semi pp done how can i get information
is it multi side port same what bridge port ?
Ville Viillks no a bridge port is different from a 6 port. You can bridge a 6 port engine too.
Awesome video, I'm sold on the semi.
I'm actually on a lookout for a rx8 to then later on have it semied, but one question, is it better just getting a13b rew and get it done then oh the renesis, I know they have different designs altogether, and I would think cause of emission laws they kinda lowered its performance somehow with this renesis.
Also you have a new subscriber 👍
Hello, I’m in the same boat as you as I’ve just bought an rx8 and am also sticks between the renesis and the rew, did you ever end up deciding on which one to go with
@@ninjafang2 I haven't gotten the RX-8 yet, it's been difficult finding one around here in the condition I want it at. But I'm leaning towards the rew for sure in the build .
@@ninjafang2 congrats on your RX-8, definitely a great car👍
Great video but I had a hard time not singing along to all the song in the background lol
What about a 4 rotor semi pp
Great video! I am looking to buy a RX-8 and have ‘the brap’. Semi P is a big change in the engine bay, so still thinking of a bridge port. Any recommendations? I’m aiming for 300BHP max(for the street and taking it to a race track, not a dragstrip). Want to get the power from balance and high RPM
I’d put a semi or a full p rew swap and call it the day. 300whp easy
@@Rotorguy479 thanks! I really appreciate the reply. Going to look into it😎
huh i wish i could have that cooling effect without a p port, i don't even think i can get p ports in 12a housings with the coolant holes
firefox gaming I can do a 12a semi no problem
how reliable it is semi p port on NA rotary?
Ian Moone very reliable
"One thing I like about a semi is..." LMFAO dead.
What about beveling or streamlining the intersections between ducts and working surface? Meaning the ports interface.
You have a chart about this in 'Manual of Automobile technik', by BOSCH.
An straight angle generates turbulence, losses, beveling improves a bit the situation, a parabolic section of duct when entering working chamber gives near 100 % Efficiency.
It also mitigates the shock of seals every time it pass over port, the hammering as in 'chattered marks'.
Blessings +
I'll be honest I love my bridges but I can't argue with anything you said. I do want your take on the semi pp reni hybrid motor with gslse housings with semi pps aswell as the exhaust. I do like that my bridges tend to make good power and for cheap cheap. But I can't say they last very long at best a year with as many reused parts as I can get away with. I do think since I'm getting low on housings if I'm gonna buy new I might aswell look into a better option. Still I can't say for cheap fun a bridge port is a bad idea as long as you can tune for it and make an intake cause all the OEM ones are too long. Thanks
Awesome Video. I’m building a unicorn 4 rotor. I’ve never worked on one. Sounds like the semi port might be a better idea than the Bridgeport. I’m really building a rotary for the sound. If you were building a 4 turboed 4 rotor what would be your dream build without getting into billet pieces?
What is the longevity of the sealant around the Semi P port/how many miles did you run that motor? I'd be concerned about differing expansion rates when it heat cycles.
Thanks so much for this!! My coolant seal went and about to rebuild my motor and was pondering BP for longevity. So will skip it and go semi P.. Will semi P and my street port still be good for street? Running factory turbo s4 setup making 320hp (at wheels). I'm hoping for a solid over built 400hp on standard turbo (if possible). Thanks again man from Australia!
Don’t do a semi on a p port. It’s way to much air for that turbo
Joe GSPADE Galletta don’t do a semi p port on a stock turbo. The street port works fine with a semi p port.the semi p port will flow way to much for that stock turbo and egts through the Roof
@@Rotorguy479 thnx heaps man, my mate the previous owner, just said the same thing. Subscribed to your channel. Rotary community needs good advice from boys like you and it's greatly appreciated by novice guys like me :)
Joe GSPADE Galletta no problem bud. I will do some more soon. I’m just setting up my new shop and have been busy.
@@thokdesign if you haven't already, port the hell out of the wastegate of that stock S4 turbo, mine was boost spiking so bad it was barely drivable after I street ported + better exhaust (eg no cats) with the stock wastegate, ended up doing a hybrid turbo (bigger front end, stock rear end) but ported out the wastegate for some sort of boost control. 320atw with a stock S4 seems oddly high though, sure that wasn't crank/estimated crank? I thought they typically ran out of puff in the mid 200HP sorta range, not 300+
so what's your opinion on a full pp on a NA 13b?
Bassplayermane it’s perfect for NA but it’s very load and choppy down low. If your ok with that your golden
Love it when there done right
I don’t know why but I have the volume on full blast and I have to put my phone INSIDE my ear to hear what your saying
Very informative man!! Cool!
What kind of porting do you recommend for a na 12a?
Mazory well what are you doing NA or turbo
Well he said na 12a man
@@Rotorguy479 na. Also what's a half bridge? Is it just the primary port that gets a bridge?
Riq tard true but I wanted to make sure he didn’t plan to change that down the road.
Mazory it would all depend on how much power you want NA. The most with a street port I’ve got is about 170hp. If you want more then that do a semi and it will make over 200hp.
Would a semi P hate life with a IWG Borg Warner turbo?
AugustineOTC no it all depends on how much boost your running because the hot sides are smaller on internal gates
Not at all. They are crazy fast. Love EFRs
Great information! Even get to rock out to Sublime!
Where is your shop?
Heath Atkins we are in Maryland
Stevie Wonder ported this bad boy, such a subtle reference to how someone did a not even get close to a bridge port.............
Great vid love that your jammin to Sublime
Good video, how does fuel consumption compare with bridge vs semi pp? My FD is stock, for me I was going to stick with stock ports or a mild street port but I'm wondering if there is a big fuel consumption difference between the 3 types? My guess is stick with stock ports for 300-400hp range?
Well you don’t need a semi to make 400hp at all. Yes it will waste a bit of fuel because of the over lap but it’s not crazy
"You can see Stevie Wonder was porting this bad boy" I laughed hard.
This is such great info man thanks so much
We’re u located
When bridge ports?
i went to one of my countries best rotary builders and was told when i asked for a semi pp turbo it was to much for the road.. yet they suggested i do a bp turbo.. i walked away as i wasnt getting what i asked for.
@draggeeks1 yet we have 1000bhp cars on the road.. just because I want a semi pp does not mean I have to drive it like a race car.
draggeeks1 I do a drag semi different then a street semi. I do a medium street port and a Medium D port on exhaust. With a 3/4 semi p port. It works great on the street paired with the right turbo. It’s a beast on the street and not to choppy getting off the line. Some people go over board when porting and that is not good for the street.
Awesome, Mike!
Got to love the Rotary!!!
If Mazda is smart they need to start
Emissions laws would make it near impossible now a days.
I have a peripheral port rx8 with 20B engine and its honestly 😅😅a mission just to try and cruise with..always so hungry for fuel 😢
Sooooo before you bought/built this PP engine, you DID know what you were getting yourself into right?
@txddyfarquh3916 obviously 🙄 not. I did not purchase the vehicle. It was purchased by my dad who barely has time for some of the cars because there's too many project cars on top of one another.
@txddyfarquh3916 one project in particular is a 4 rotor bridgeport with single turbo on a kit car.
Don’t you block water passage with p port?
No that's jport
"stevie wonder was porting this bad boy" LMFAOOOO