DDR3 is DEAD
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2023
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With how expensive gaming PCs have gotten, I wanted to take a look at DDR3 and see if even though it's well past it's end of life, if it's still a good idea to build a DDR3 gaming system.
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DDR3 is basically still supported as the majority of the cheap windows machines use "low powered" DDR4 which is just extremley slow DDR3.
There is overlap in terms of performance and spec, high end DDR3 is very easily the same or better than a lot of the low end DDR4 out there depending on the clocks and timing.
@@MrKillswitch88 Same in the DDR4 Vs DDR5 like a 4400 DDR4 CL17 kit for big money...
The thing is you can just simply buy much higher MHz for much lower price on the next DDR gen however the timings also keep going crazy high...
@@guily6669 This has been a thing since around 1999/2000 when RDRAM then later DDR1 was introduced which kept SDR around for a little longer till DDR became the standard. RDRAM was hot and crazy expensive at the time and had horrendous latency to match. My thinking it is usually better to change over mid to late in the life cycle of any standard due to better pricing and better overall kits vs buying in early.
Besides cost I don't like kits with horrendous timings especially for laptops when the difference in cpu performance for example can be up to 20% easy sometimes more.
@@MrKillswitch88 Hell yeah I totally remember those times.
I always wish to have a top tier kit never could afford however I also never had the cheapest crap that have the worse timings or low frequency...
I'm in the process of buying a high tier 16GBx2 DDR4 4400 CL17 G.skill Ripjaw TridentZ RGB used, hope it all goes well however I likely won't get the clocks at those timings for sure on my crap Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite which have never been good for mem OC from what I always heard and my old 8700K mem controller.
But I still dream to have the kit running at advertised clocks\timings or close to them while the kit being actually fully working with 0 errors.
Ps: and I sure know there was many ppl with luck buying random crazy cheap generic ram kits that had Samsung B die out of eBay and can OC like crazy, but nowadays it's hard to find a good cheap one that will OC to the max... FINGERS CROSSED 😎
@@guily6669I have an i5 9400f which is locked to 2666 mhz ram. I bought a 32 gb kit of 3600MHz CL 16 and set it to 2666mhz CL 14. No clue if this CL timings actually make any difference, but she is stable 😂.
Surprisingly this 32gb lexar hades set of ram was on sale for $60 some months ago haha
Until early 2023, I was rocking a Dell Precision workstation with an x79 quad-core Xeon, GTX Titan X 12GB, 24 gigs of DDR3, and a 2x4TB 7200RPM HDD in Raid 0.
It was an absolute beast considering its old age.
However, in late January of 2023, my work gave me (and let me keep) a new Dell Precision mobile workstation, with a 14-core 12900HK, 64GB DDR5, RTX A4000, and 2TB NVMe SSD.
The DDR3 system, hand-down from my dad, served me well throughout its life as my main PC, and is still my NAS now.
What kinda job do you work where they give you and let you keep such machine jeez
I'm still using a Mac Pro with 8 GB DDR2 for school lmao
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why did you buy rtx a2000? a rtx 4080 or a rx 7900 xtx is better than the rtx a2000 lol
Alright show off😂
For the longest time I was running a dual Xeon server motherboard as my desktop. had a pair of 2650v2s and 192gb(24x8) of DDR3 ECC memory in a supermicro motherboard. It was by far the cheapest way to build a workstation with the memory capacity I needed for data science. The whole system cost $400 and was built from salvaged parts or liquidation auctions.
I got a Dell t5600 with 2 2680v1s and 128 128 gigs of ram and a 1080ti.. whole thing cost me about 200 bucks.. and 150 was the gpu lol. I’m looking to put Linux on it though because I’m getting sick of Microsoft’s bs.
I really recommend a dual boot. I know people are still skeptical even though it's far more reliable now, but with a GRUB bootloader you can boot off a second physical drive for windows and Linux complete file systems
@@johns3655 +1 for the grub bootloader promotion. -3 for the dual boot suggestion. Nobody needs windows bloatware on any system without genuine necessity these days.
Use a bare metal hypervisor and create a gaming vm and pass through gpu to vm. That's what I'm trying to do.
Fiancée was using a Haswell i5 4460 with RX580 until very recently. RDR2 ran fine.
She has upgraded to an 5800X3D and 6650XT now and RDR2 still runs fine, but now with all the details set to highest.
Pro tip for anyone with an AMD FX system: Set your Windows power profile to High Performance. This used to make a huge difference back when I had my 8150 and 1070Ti.
I would recommend selling the R7 5800X3D though don't get me wrong it is a very good cpu , the gpu you have paired with it is not making it run at full potential and unless your fiancee does video editing you don't need a powerful cpu instead put that money into a Rx 6700xt or 6800 for gaming that would be nice though if you plan on upgrading her gpu in future then it is good "Future proof" of a cpu.
@@chills5100r7 not r5
Thank you@@someguywithmtndew5691 .I have corrected it.
@@chills5100Thanks, but the 5800X3D definitely suits her use-case and the 6650XT is a 2X increase versus the previous RX580. She is a gamer, but she’s also doing other things on her PC that benefit from more CPU.
There is also a PSU constraint that puts higher Wattage GPUs behind an additional paywall of around £150. Even going up to a 6700XT would be an expensive option and just not worth it versus the 1080p gaming she does.
I watched her play some RDR2 last night with all details set to high and it was maintaining 60FPS quite happily.
@@chills5100 doesn't matter if she can still play RDR2 on the high presets
Having recently upgraded from an i5-3570K, I put my current 6700 XT on it just out of curiosity. Honestly... not as bad as I was expecting. 100% CPU usage was frequent, but it handled itself well considering its age. Framerates/times weren't terrible, either.
Yeah, we've reached a point where upgrading every few years... or even every 10 years isn't needed for a lot of people. Sure, for the newest AAA games, content creation, CAD, etc. you'll probably need to upgrade. But for light use even 10+ year old systems are still pretty solid
@@aChairLeg Certainly. That said, it is light years behind my current R7 7700X, but I would certainly _hope_ so. If you put a more reasonable GPU in it such as the 6600 you used here, you could certainly get by. The only real problem is the lack of instruction sets like AVX2.
I still game at 1440p upscaled to 4K using RSR on an overclocked 4790k / 5700XT with 0 issues, CPU has never bottlenecked me even in titles like Starfield. I was planning an upgrade but with lower spec hardware like the Steam Deck forcing better optimizations, I think I can even get another few years out of this setup.
@@philipdaian8386 Given the small IPC increase and the additional instruction sets that Sandy/Ivy Bridge don't support, I would be inclined to agree. You'll probably be okay for another 2-3 years yet, but I'm not sure beyond that.
I rocked that cpu from 2012 to 2020. It was rock solid, but I noticed that when I making music the processor was showing its age. So I went amd in 2020 and now instead 80-100% cpu uses and now only 15-20%.
Delided 4790k, with liquid metal runs at 5Ghz all cores.
Using it with DDR3 2133Mhz with GTX 1080ti as my second rig.
I'm still on my 4790k. I'll probably upgrade in a year or two but my system lasting 8 years is pretty impressive.
I'm still on a 4570
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Same 4790k devil canion , msi z97 kraith with rtx 3060ti and 32gb ram 2200mhz,2ssd raid and 2 sshd raid ,cpu up to 80-95 usage in new game ,still rock 👍 to this day,m2 on this mb maxim 800mb/s ,normal ssd in raid read up 1200mb/s 😉 tested
I ran the smaller brother, the 4670k for 10 years and upgraded 2021. Loved that CPU.
That’s gonna be me with my i7-13700k and 3080 I don’t plan on upgrading anymore until 2033 😂. Just too expensive these days
One of the reasons that the 6600 seemed like it was at 100% on the AM3 system is that AM3 used PCIE 2.0 X16, whereas the 6600 runs PCIE 4.0 X8, so you can’t use the full bandwidth of the slot anyway, but it also gets bottlenecks by the older standard.
Beating my old Optiplex (i5 4570 DDR38gb) pushing with a small overclock
All the way from 2014 to 2020, huh? I've been "rocking" ddr2 all the way since 2006.
Ddr2 is dinosaur slow in this day and age even compared to ddr3. plus any cpu using ddr2 is not worth running anymore simply because of how much you pay on electricity running the thing. Honestly if i was you i would switch to at least ddr3 due to the low cost of hardware at this time and you will pay off your purchase on your electricity bill alone. too many people dont consider how much different hardware costs to run.
@@KPopFan40167 Far too many assumptions here for me to regale you with a clarification.
@@KPopFan40167 Well if he likes old games then he dont need to upgrade
glad you’re back!!! hopefully you’ve recovered and are doing well!
Thank you! Yes, mostly this video has been sitting on my PC for like 3 months now so I'm glad it's finally out haha
I finally went from DDR3R to DDR4 when I built a Ryzen Hackintosh, and repurposed my Early 2009 Mac Pro, as a home server after generally being on DDR3, since 2009. Honestly, even these old LGA1366 systems-Mac or PC-are still very useful-especially when upgraded with NVMe SSDs.
Also DDR3R is next to WORTHLESS per GB; Already upgraded two different Mac Pro 4,1 units to 192GB (6x32GB) RAM after getting full 256GB kits for around $80 each (and while I can utilize all 256GB, 192GB is MUCH faster due to triple-channel).
Whew, glad I stuck with DDR2.
One thing that would make the x79 build a fair bit better in the productivity tests would be if you had 4 sticks of ram in it instead of 2, as one of the big selling points for the LGA2011 socket was the quad-channel ram.
not necessarily i see no difference running quad vs triple vs dual chan for productivity namely video editing. its *nice though that i can populate all 8 slots for 128GB :)
I built my DDR3 system back in late 2015 and am still using it today. I started out with 8GBs of corsair vengeance ram clocked at 1333MHz which was later upgraded to 16GBs a couple of years later. I'm still running an I5-4690K and an EVGA GTX 970. I plan on upgrading soon as I have a 1440p monitor and am not willing to lower the graphics or resolution of the games I play. I also plan on getting into game development, 3D modeling, and video editing which all require me to make some hardware changes.
I have a friend who still daily drive a 8gb DDR2 PC with a RX 580 8gb.
Just as a little side note there are some x99 boards and cpus that that support ddr3. The e5-2666 v3 machinist x99 g7. Looking forward to the ddr2 vid!
I vaguely remember that actually now that you reminded me
@@aChairLegand I just saw the video in my feed again and remembered that all 1151 cpus work with ddr3 so the 9900k can technically use ddr3. Although I do not believe there was ever a official mb. You would need to bios mod a z170 and brige/block pins on the 9900k. But it has been done before.
@@andrewmcewan9145 The H310M DS2V DDR3 is a thing so even easier than that lol
They're still making modules, bought an gskill kit earlier this year for one of my laptops and it was only a month old from manufacturing when I got it in the mail.
In Brazil everything is very expensive, so I continue with my I7 3770K and DDR3 memories
I7 4790k rx 590 has ran well to this day. Might pass it down to my lil brother whenever i can transfer it to a smaller case since this nzxt h440 is huge
Still rocking my Lenovo Thinkcentre M93p with a Xeon E3 1230v3, 32GB of DDR3 RAM and a low profile GTX 1650! It was a big upgrade from an i3 2130 and 2GB of RAM.
Dude, youre literally my current favourite Tech channel rn. Ive literally been binge watching all the videos on your channel for the past couple of days. Love the content and Inspired by it, keep up the good work ma dude!!
P.S literally had the same build as you till about a week ago lol, Used to rock an FX-6300 and 12gb of ram and a GT730 💀since 2013 to 2023. Upgraded to a lenovo legion 2021 for Architecture college Demands!. R7 5800H and RTX3060, I literally CANNOT believe the FPS im getting and how smooth the whole computer runs.
Also, if you want the newest platform with ddr3, there were some Z170 boards using it, meaning you can theoretically go as high as 7700K.
if it supports a 7th gen intel cpu doesn't it mean that the ram is upgradable from ddr3 to ddr4 too?
@@NikosM112 The integrated memory controller in the 6th and 7th gen cpus supports both types, yes, but I don't think there were any mobos with both slots like they were for the ddr2/ddr3 and earlier for ddr/ddr2.
You'd be surprised by the amount of ddr3 pc still being built . That too with 4th gen processors at most and 4GB Ram. They're pretty much every guy's first gaming pc AND permanent pcs in small businesses.
Not to mention core 2duo lga775 with 2gb ddr2 Ram.
My DDR3 is alive and still doing great. Not dead. Still running a 4.8ghz 4790k/5700xt/2133 CL9 - very well balanced system, GPUbusy is perfectly synced in all my games- no bottlenecks, maybe even a tiny bit of headroom.
These sorts of systems make for great cheap 4k gaming rigs. It's not practical but if you wanted to at 4k you can pair a 4790k (or similar like 2011 Xeon you tested) with a 4080 or 4090 and get minimum bottlenecking- even with raytracing turned on. There are many videos about it on here on YT, CPUs become almost insignificant at very high resolutions.
More power to ya! Im still hanging on with my 4.8ghz amd fx 6350 2.8ghz on the northbridge, and my ram sitting at cl11 2400 ddr3
Keep fooling yourself.
Are you sure? A lot of places I’ve checked says that a 4790k would be a bottleneck with a 4080. No reason to buy a high end gpu with a low end system
No just no. Why the hell would you put a 4080 or a 90 in such a low end system? Raytracing is very cpu and ram bandwidth hungry...
saying a 4790k with a 5700xt is "perfectly balanced" is delusional lol maybe if you avoid CPU heavy games, and claiming that you'd have a fine experience with a 4080 and anything raytracing/dlss with that CPU is even more delusional. anything more powerful than a gtx 1080 makes no sense for something like a 4790
I really feel the increasing fragility of some of these components. My dual Xeon Lenovo C30 is starting to occasionally black screen which is a bitch as it is only very occasionally and it leaves nothing meaningful in the logs so difficult to pin down as changes might take weeks to show a false direction. I fear it's the power supply though as these are rarely available and pretty pricey when they are.
Yo, did you figure out the issue with the black screens?
@@Zangetsu_X2 I don't know if this might help you, but deep clean your RAM slots. Worked for me.
Take your PC apart, and clean everything, the RAM slots may be full of dust and dirt, or they might not even be full of dust and dirt, just a side may have dust that's causing actual trouble.
For the DDR2 video, I would definitely look at the 7400-series Dunnington Xeon processors, 6 cores and 2.66 GHz.
Didn't even know those existed, I may have to end up building three systems like this video
holy shit that sounds epic, i had 2 rare ddr3 775 Mainboards they were intresting, however its sad to see them slowly die out since they are not being producef
I love your personality and your video style man. Love you man!
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With slightly fewer brain cells and quite a few videos lined up!
I'm still using a X58 board with a Xeon W3690 as a secondary setup (12gb DDR3 in Triple-Channel), watching this video from this system right now actually.
I'm often shocked at how well this thing can still perform. Been playing some Baldur's Gate 3 on it with mostly no issues recently.
Old systems are fun sometimes.
I also play the latest game on my "ASUS P6T" mobo with 48GB ram and a overclocked Xeon X5675 to 5Ghz.
All graphics on max settings except resolution (1440p), with an easy 120+ FPS.
@@opoxious1592 Damn, that's nice.
I really got to upgrade my ram to atleast 24gb someday, but it's hard to find kits of 3. :c
I used to run an i7 3770 with at first a dell optiplex 7010 motherboard, then a 3010, then a micro itx board from gigabyte for the past 3 years up until recently with 20 gigs of ram. It was good for lightweight games like minecraft, overwatch 2, beamng and some others at the time. Browsing and simple editing was good, but the one problem with it all was stuttering from slow ram and a small bottleneck with my gpu. They're good if you can build one for dirt cheap for simple gaming, but once you start playing some of the newer games, it shows its age.
same here with the 3770, its ok with 1600mhz ram, if you have a 4k monitor its good with a 6600xt or an rtx3060 at most since for 1080p it bottlenecks even a 1050ti or rx570, tho I have another rig with a 2500k at 4,5ghz that is better at 1080p with those cards but uses double the power...
My poor 4790k ran on 4.8GHz for nearly 8 years. I recently upgraded to an i9 7980xe because ddr4 became dirt cheap and I wanted a System that could last for another 8 years. 44 pcie lanes are AWESOME!
Nice video 👍
Greetings from Germany
yeah! i wish desktop cpus could get 28+ lanes... more between the chipset and CPU
Up until a few weeks ago I was using a dual xeon dell precision with FB-DDR2! Crazy high end machine from the time that worked well however I've switched to a low powered i5 with DDR4. 350w of TDP and quad channel memory has roughly the same power as a newish 35W CPU and low spec DDR4
Picked up a full 1150 system from the junkyard over a few weeks as we swing by there a lot with work.
2x8 gb ram at 1600 mhz, I7 4770k, MSI B85M-E45 motherboard, noctua nh-u12 cpu cooler with some of my leftover mounting hardware for my own U12 cooler i bought an AM4 mounting kit for. After a bios update i overclocked the I7 to 4 ghz stable, it probably can do like 4.4 - 4.5 but the motherboard looks pretty weak on the vrms so keeping it at 4 ghz for now.
Basically stock 4790k speeds without turbo, should pair up nicely with his gtx 970 as well.
Lil brother is gonna get that as soon as i get my usb drive back from a guy at work.
As i don't think i can make a bootable windows 10 installer with my external ssd as fast as that would have been too install from, i simply had weird issues trying it on a laptop.
this maybe had stupid question but motherboard in 1:32 had 5 sata port but why only 2 sata port work did other sata port borken?
Hey what would be the best micro atx motherboard for ddr3 ram sense I don’t want to replace all my ram for a motherboard
i5 4590 with msi z97m looking for a decent gpu to pair up for decent gaming whats your suggestion im thinking 1050ti or arc a380
I'm still rocking with my z420 for the past 5 years (although I'm now getting parts for a my first ever new build)
8 core xeon E5-2676 v2, 32 GB DDR3 (4x8 GB, for quad channel), RX590, and 2TB nvme!!!
nvme is actually tricky but totally worth it, it is only possible using a expansion card, and the BIOS doesn't recognize it as a bootable device, so a bootable usb pen does the tick to redirect the boot to the nvme drive, then the installed OS boots normally, the extra speed made me keep it running longer for sure.
I have a PC with an i7 4770, 16GB ram, 1tb sata SSD, and an RX 480. Because I don't use it anymore since my main PC is *way* faster, I will likely give it to my mom so she can play games with my brother and me. I say all this to say:
1. While I knew the 4770 could handle a newer GPU than an RX 480, it's a little surprising to me that I could put an RX 6600 in the PC as an upgrade and it wouldn't always be bottlenecked by the CPU.
2. The motherboard in the PC is not a Z87/Z97 board, rather it's an H-87 board. I won't lie, I am a bit worried about it's longevity despite the physical condition being pretty good to me, and while upgrading my mom to something on the AM4 platform would be great, I'd rather upgrade the GPU.
Still have an old DDR3 machine, decent for watching media on the 1080P tv which we don't do as much after 1440P it's hard to go back.
I didnt get into pc building until recently. Im decently familiar with the current part market from 2020 till now. Still like watching videos on older parts though. Got my first pc in 1998.
I planned to upgrade my Haswell system for one last time, but after careful thought, Its not worth it and best to get a more recent or latest specs.
These where my spec plan:
• Asus H81M-K --> Asus Maximus VII Gene
• DDR3 1600 --> DDR3 2133
• 4790 --> 4790K (repaste TIM for better cooling preferably Liquid metal)
I have ditched this plan and moved on with 13th gen and a B760M Mobo
my main rig at the moment is a x79 dell precision with a e5 1660 and a gtx 1060 but i planning on by the end of the year upgrading
today the final piece for my new pc is arriving, but i used an fx-8350 and a 1050ti with 16gb of ram from when i was 13 until today (i'm 19). I needed to change my old ddr3 pc and build a ddr5 one for faster memory and cpu (i edit lots of videos), but if i was using my pc just for gaming i would honestly just upgrade to a 1080ti and i probably still would be able to play most games in 1080p medium/high settings. At the same time... editing videos is insanely slow and laggy, even at 1/4 the resolution.
Still rocking that G.Skill 16GB of DDR3-2400. My PC was built in an era of 2016-2017. i7-6700K and GTX1070. I would love to upgrade in the future, but I don't really play games that much like before and just do video streaming now.
To fix the stuttering when loading chunks just install something like kubuntu. On my i5 4570 doing this eliminated any stuttering so windows is clearly the issue
You should definitely try a E5-2667 V2 in that LGA 2011 System Board!
Just upgraded from me xeon system. My e5 2643 v2 was a beast, it could max out my 5600xt, had to upgrade coz for some reason some games would stutter until i was forced ro switch ryzen 5, stutters stopped but i still have my old beast, never letting this guy go.
You can mode the motherboard bios and enable rebar and rebar helps out a ton when you are cpu limited.
Not on every motherboard
Im rocking DDR3 from 2013 till now with my core i7 3770 no GPU :( . planning to upgrade to the new AM5
Bro i am planning to get a used dell m6800 and slap a 970m 6gb there, that would be a budget build costing around $300 overall. Should i get it or some T470/X270/E7270/E7470 instead?
Dell Precisions aren't bad at all, it's really a matter of preference
I have used i5-4460s & RX 570 8GB before.
In some graphic demanding games, of course CPU would bottleneck pretty hard, but otherwise in light gaming it was awesome!
Thanks for the video!
Currently running a 4790k @4.7ghz and DDR3 at 2133mhz. I game at 1440p on maximum graphics settings and haven't really had any issues with bottlenecking. At higher resolutions/graphics settings, CPU performance doesnt seem to matter all that much.
i've been running on an old optiplex for a few years now, I just bought a gpu for some light gaming. This thing still holds up great.
my whole system cost me 60 bucks, pc and gpu included
Optiplex's are great budget gaming PCs. Got a 5040 with an i7 6700 24gb DDR3 RAM and a 4gb AMD 6400. It can't run some newer high requirement games like cyberpunk but I meet 98% of minimum requirements on canyourunit. Maybe $200 in the build for the PC GPU and a couple extra RAM sticks.
I am in the same boat as you Used DDR3 memory for a long time. I rocked DDR3 memory since LGA 775 with my Core 2 Duo E8400/Core2 Quad Q6600 from like 2010ish to 2020 in my Desktop Rig but in 2017 I bought a gaming laptop that used DDR4 memory and be using DDR4 memory since 2017. So I rocked DDR3 memory for at least 10 years.
Is ddr4/3 for CPU, gpu, or ssd? I don't entirely know what ddr4 even is. I'm planning on making a budget pc soon so thanks in advance.
Honestly what kills budget AM3 builds nowadays is the fact that those CPU's don't have any multithreading.
That FX-8120 you used is 8 cores and 8 threads unlike modern Ryzen 7's that are 8 cores and 16 threads.
LGA2011 seems like the way to go for budget builds using DDR3 but i'm sure that by looking carefully you could find 1st, 2nd or 3rd gen Ryzen CPU's and go DDR4 and AM4.
But to me it seems like LGA2011 is the way to go for a budget build using DDR3.
And i know how it feels to change entire platforms, back in August i went from Phenom II and DDR3 to 5th gen Ryzen and DDR4.
The difference that it makes is unbelievable.
Bruh what? you claim they dont have any multithreading and then in the next sentence say they have 8 core and 8 threads? that means multihreaded bro. if it wasnt it had 8 cores 0 threads.
@@elitepauper7400 To me multithreaded means you have double the number of threads.
@@GUCFan Okay to you maybe, but thats not the official meaning of multithreaded.
He means what Intel calls Hyperthreading and what AMD calls Simultaneous Multithreading.
That’s where you have two threads per physical CPU core.
What a lot of AMD chips lacked back in the day, was single core speed. Their instructions-per-cycle was very low so they would perform poorly in games that did not utilise all those cores, and many games didn’t back then.
Games that multithreaded well would perform good on these systems, but games that primarily used one or two cores would perform better on even a Pentium chip of the era.
When we got to the FX-8000 series, AMD was truly hilarious. These chips performed so poorly in single core tasks that it lacked behind severely in a lot of games.
The FX-9000 were just 8000 chips with the core clock turned all the way up, resulting in hilarious TDP and some of the chips had watercooling as a requirement because they ran so damn hot.
@@99domini99 mostly true but the amd fx chips had a lot of potentially with the proper overclock. I remember my amd fx 6350 sitting at 2.6ghz on the Northbridge and 4.8 on the core. Ram was around 2300mhz. Being from the Netherlands heat was never really a issue but she still ran hot as fuck on some games, but an absolute monster. Had it from 2016 until last year.
I do mostly 3d modeling and gpu rendering, so after taking a look at the options, last year I 'upgraded' my home rig to a $40 chinese lga2011 board supporting nvme, $35 of 64gb ddr3 ecc and a 12core xeon for $18. Needless to say a similar 'cheap' combo would have cost me like $300 if it were a ryzen/i5 with ddr4.
For my first gaming PC, I might go straight to DDR5 (on AM5) and not need to upgrade for maybe 15 years as long as everything keeps working?
Bet on 7 - 10
Ali express has mountains of 'new' x79 x99 etc that are reusing old chipsets and such on new pcb and tend to have more modern storage like nvme.
I love old hardware. Makes me so nostalgic. Am4 will do the same for me in the future.
In 2017 i got a Z420 for the same amount of money shown in this video. I got 6 years use out of it and could sell it for the same amount of money i spent on it. It was the best thing for the price back then and got me through the pc parts shortage of 2020/2021 just fine. I am still using a variety of 3rd and 4th gen towers. Yes they are definitely starting to show their age but my 4th gen Xeon and 32GB ECC is still able to do anything sufficiently fast for my needs and by the time I get a 6th gen or newer prebuilt for about the same price I will plan to sell it then.
I have a Huananzhi X79 board that has dual NVME despite it being C612/x79, Works at proper speed too.
I have a basic HP desktop I bought on clearance with an i3-10105 and RX 6400, the CPU performance of which is about the same as all of these chips(in multicore).
I would like to build a current platform, but I may wait for Ryzen 8000 to see what it's like.
I have an HP ProLiant DL380e G8 running DDR3 and its working fine with E5 2470 V2
My first ever fully home-built system was AM3+, which I chose over 1150 because I was enamored with the idea of an 8-core CPU, the now much-maligned FX-8350. It was a good machine, certainly good enough for my style and level of game play at the time. That system still works flawlessly but doesn't get powered on much these days. I should probably sell it given current pricing on ebay, but I just can't part with it.
I still have a i7 3770 running my HTPC, just with an old A Radeon 6670 1 Gig version and its fine for 4k youtube and some old games like oblivion. It is also good to stream to from my other Rigs around the house.
I skipped over DDR3 entirely, going from my Core2 Duo with DDR2 RAM to my current rig which is a Core i5 6600k with DDR4. The DDR2 board still works, as about two or three years ago I bought a power supply, new hard drive and some extra RAM, and got it up and running with Windows XP and Windows 7 in a dual boot config. It has 7 GB of RAM and a Radeon HD 6850 graphics card with 1 GB of GDDR5 VRAM. That system is a bit finicky in its old age though as it will occasionally lock up during the boot process, requiring a reboot.
Sooo basically ddr3 is still worth using, but not building on. The price of used parts is rising as offer shrinks and system dies. Better get a look at ddr4 for a "new" used build.
The Core i7 4790K has slightly worse single-threaded IPC to The Ryzen 3000 series. Upgrading from the 4790k in 2020 to a R9 3900X was marginal unless you count the 8 additional cores I gained. Yeah there was definitely some I just should have waited for Ryzen 5000. This might explain the cost of them (4790K) since they might perform similar to 4-core Ryzens from the 3000 series.
still rocking an i7 4790K, 32gb DDR3 1333 and crossfire rx580. yeah it totally isn't any good price to performance but upgraded it slowly up starting with an old prodesk (i only use the 128ssd for boot storage now)
DDR3 will never die 💪💪💪
I'm still using DDR3 memory. 16GB (x2 8GB Sticks). Paired with an i5 4460 & a recently purchased RTX 4060. I am looking to upgrade my mobo, cpu and memory though!
Im still rocking my old buldozer
Asus ROG Crosshair V Formula - Z
AMD FX 8350 8 core OC to 4.4Ghz
Asus ROG Strix RX 570 4GB Gaming OC to 1314Mhz
4x4 Corsair 1600Mhz 16GB DDR3
AMD Wraith Prism RGB cooler
I upgraded my old i5 750 to an i7 4790 Asus Z87 motherboard a couple years ago just to use as a "budget" build with 32gb of that same hyperX RAM, graphics card was an RX580 8GB... It honestly ran anything I wanted... except since I got it used found out later on the USB3.0 support was completely bricked and that making it useless for using a VR set ended up investing in a Ryzen set up when the prices dropped. But honestly if it wasn't for the dead USB3.0 ports there was absolutely nothing wrong with that system and would have kept using it.
My T440p ThinkPad with its Haswell quad-core and 16GB of DDR3 still runs fantastic. I also have an ThinkCentre with an i7-3770 and 32GB of DDR3 that also still works great.
at 5:55 why is the voice over backwards, that was very confusing
Upgraded from my hp elitedesk to a asus strix g16 laptop it served me well just now i have sooo much power
I have a 6th gen system,
I5-6600,
But sadly the ram that my mobo supports is only DDR3L-1600 (I have 16gb tho, 2x8gb)
Which slightly hinders the cpu in performing tasks like video editing but it still gets the job done pretty damn well considering the chip's age.
The thing about these Xeon E3 12 series is that they are half the price of i7 and i5 and perform as good as them. They can be used on normal motherboard upto 7th gen too. You can get those for upto 7th gen.
Interesting. I guess maybe prices went up for the 4th gen stuff already? I got lucky I upgraded when I did then. :P
I'm on a i7 4790. Using a Dell Optiplex 9020 motherboard with a few adapters to allow it to use a standard PSU and front panel connections in my current case. (an Antec 300)
Interesting you couldn't get NVME on that intel setup. Mine can by virtue of there being a modified UEFI for my mobo I could use so I'm natively booting off a NVME via that modified UEFI firmware + PCI-E adapter card. :D
My machine currently has 16GB of ram and the GPU is a Nvidia GTX 780ti. It's basically one of those "Optiplex" builds. But I just got the bare mobo and adapters. Didn't get the optiplex case to go along with it since my Antec 300 case is more then enough. Airflow is pretty good with that case and the Dell case would be a downgrade so I'm not full Optiplex. Just the insides are Optiplex. :P
Most recent game I've been playing on it is PalWorld which runs ok. It slows down in some busy areas but I can't complain. I think some of the slowdown might be due to memory. I plan to upgarde to the max supported 32GB at some point although the 780ti might be the bottle neck...haven't really tried to benchmark anything on this to really know for sure though. It runs 60FPS+ for sure in most cases though. Maybe not hitting 100+ but I don't care as long as it's at least 60. I game on a CRT so high frame rates are not needed so long as it's at least 60. 60 looks plenty good enough on a CRT. ;)
I upgraded to this setup to save on memory since I wanted to reuse my DDR3 ram. My previous rig as a 1st gen i7 965 Extreme Edition on a Asus P6T motherboard. Had that setup until 2022. Despite it's age it was still running things well. But I couldn't stand the long boot times. That board didn't have the latest generation of SATA either so SSDs could only take me so far. I get like 6 to 10 second boot times on my current rig so already was worth it. :D
I don't remember now what I paid for everything. I think I got the mobo for like $30 bucks. $20 for the adapters and $40 or so for the CPU at the time. Maybe I could have cut costs by doing with a different mobo but I went with a 9020 because I knew I could use NVME on that with a UEFI modification at least. It would be a shot in the dark with anything else. NVME support isn't really there for 4th gen so I lucked out that that I could with the Dell board. :P
Rocking an i5 4750, 16gb & 9800gtx+ with an evo 870 running 7. Depends on what you play. Looking for a 980 or 1070 just to modernize a tad. Dx10 support is dropping left & right.
im using my rtx 3060 in my old gaming pc setup while im waiting for my other parts to come in. it's got 16 gigs of 1600mhz ddr3 and i gotta say it doesn't really get in the way of the beast performance of my graphics card.
1:14 that chip is really, really good. The company I used to work for had one i7-4790K and I regret not buying it from them when I quit that job.
I get why its almost $100 .
I have now a i7-5820K which comes close, but doesn't have the same single-core performance. That thing was brutal at single-core performance.
If you want a single core performance that good, you would have to spend $1000 in a CPU nowadays... (thanks binning)
I've had the same AMD A75 system for the past 12 years, with DDR3 and a second-hand GTX 970, and I barely notice any difference in the speed of apps and games from 12 years ago. Albeit I mostly run open source apps (on both Windows 10 and Linux) and indie games.
Frankly the only reason I'm even considering buying new hardware is because my motherboard is literally dying of old age (I suspect there's a short somewhere). When I do "upgrade", it'll either be used hardware off eBay (Xeons are literally going for pennies these days), or if I really want to push the boat out, I'll get an A520/Ryzen 5 4500 and DDR4 combo.
Either way I'm not spending more than £200. Probably ever. The days of me blowing my entire salary on a new PC are long over. The last time I did that was back in the days of the Pentium 4 Prescott (back when "glass" side panels were actually plastic, and had to be custom made).
If I live long enough, I might eventually buy a Ryzen 9/DDR 5 system ... in about 20 years. If I can get it for less than £200. Maybe.
top notch, good cinematography, really good content. much love, still rocking ddr3 in 2023 haha 🦾
I've noticed that the top spec CPU for any socket is way more expensive than other CPUs. I guess people just want an easy upgrade on the platform they already own. This creates a demand for the top spec and a supply of lower spec CPUs.
A friend is using an i7 4790k overclocked and an rtx 3060 12gb, runs like a dream for 1080p gaming and there's almost no bottleneck
still running DDR3 in my Media PC since 2014, ran DDR3 in my main PC since roughly early 2011 for about 6 years-ish, then got the 1st Gen Ryzen 7 in 2017. Still using Ryzen 7 but with Linux. I ditched Winders completely on my Ryzen rig. I used Linux Mint, Linux Mint Debian Edition, Debian 12 w/Gnome, Fedora 39, now using Fedora 40.
I won't give up my very rare DDR3-2200 8-8-8-24. It's a 2GBx2 kit from Super Talent. It's made in the USA. RAM easily can hit like 2000 7-7-7-21. Lowest timings I got with it is 1t-5-6-5-20 at 1400 MHz on a Phenom II x6 1055t. It is very fun ram kit to mess with. On 2020 I went to buy the FX 8350 to try to push the ram again and easily hit 7-7-7-21 at 2000. First time in 10 years because it was always on the Phenom II system with highest memory clock at 1600.
Even though its 4GB ram system does the job and its still fast for the older games no need to upgrade. I did try out Valorant and manage to have stable 150 fps on the FX 8350 with GTX 580. It beat out the Pentium G4400 (Skylake) which surprise me. I had to cap the Pentium system at 45 fps to keep it from hitting 100% CPU usage. It was very terrible experience.
Bro u know nothing about timings
Still on ddr3 32 GB, i7 3770 oc@4.2 and 4070 - works great so far but will switch to new one soon i hope :), Doing also Blender and can still handle some good scenes.🤓
still rocking fx9590 with m.2 (built it but my brother uses it). 4k native res and a 5700xt gpu. you need to run amd at 4k res
Even my work computer that was sent out was a i5 6400 with ddr4 ❤ some of my coworkers have 8400
That 8120 might have seen better days or needed an undervolt with an AIO. 8xxx and 9xxx cpus need some love n tuning to shine. They're no masterpiece but still decent. My old 8350 build with just 4x8(32gb)@1333 +rx580 still can hit 3600 in r23 all day on stock clocks and is much more consistent/ case by case up a couple fps from your results with a lesser card. Also i feel a 256bit card like the rx5700xt or gtx1080ti would have made better use of the older pcie 2.0 bandwidth limits. Great vid tho 👌
I played the entirety of cyberpunk 2077 on my 4770k
And I still have my old i7 920 working as a NAS, I have the g.skill pi cl6 1600MHz tripple channel DDR3 kit for it.
It's been quite a ride
I think that time has become for 2669 v4 processors. They are op for their price! Imagine getting 128 Gb of 4 channel ddr4 and run FL studio, After effects or any CPU and RAM needed program
Cpuld you look into the chinise X99 mother oards the X99-D8 D3 i think it was called or some others with a v3 xeon and maybe turbo unlock it
On pre haswell/broadwell platforms lack of AVX2 is a problem - "cpu unsupported" and you are looking on your wallpaper not DDR3. It was couple patches for couple games, but it won't take long (most oddity for me was in Uncharted, you know unsupported, but after a patch ~ 100fps on high details...).
OEM complete PC for quite low price makes sense , but buying cpu or motherboard for so many $ is just loss of money.
I was using LGA 1155 platform with DDR3 since 2012 to 2023 and I switch to LGA1700 and DDR4 because my motherboard died and my i7 3770K@4.7 GHz lacks of AVX2 instructions so buying another old lga 1155 mobo was pointles.
In memory benchmark (I know dual channel onlt :) ):
my DDR3 was running @ 2400 CL 12, 13, 12, 36 and read speed was about 39000MB/s
my DDR4 run's @3200 CL 16,17,16,36 and read speed is 44000MB/s
3770K@4.7GHz performs like I3 10100F (4 cores 8 threads), ofc higher clock speed, power consumpion and no AVX2 = "cpu unsupported".
I was running a core 2 quad and DDR2 for a daily until this May.
I wonder how these compared to the apu/igpu mini pcs that you can get for around 150 dollars.