Ranking Every Coaster EVER at Busch Gardens Williamsburg - Past & Present
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- Busch Gardens Williamsburg is one of the best parks in the world, and over its 48 year history, it has seen 16 coasters come and go. Today, let's rank them up.
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Video idea: Ranking every defunct manufacturers' LAST roller coaster
Good Idea!!
Ooh interesting idea!
I literally had this exact idea ready to type, but you beat me to it lol. So I’m gonna vouch for this hard
X2 ftw!!
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My brother just passed away last month and seeing the Big Bad Wolf footage brought back the best memories of us at the park together. Thank you for that. I needed it.
I'm really sorry to hear that
@@AirtimeThrills Thank you so much, Chris.
A little correction and a small fact about Drachen Fire I found out not too long ago: is that the ride wasn't actually a copy of B&Ms layout was but was in fact a custom layout that Busch gardens Williamsburg came up with themselves along with Ron Toomer. You see originally Arrow Dynamics offered Busch gardens one of their mega looping coaster models but Busch gardens Williamsburg declined the offer because they felt that it will look too similar to Anaconda at Kings Dominion so instead they got a full custom layout with a brand-new support structure. B&M was a brand new company which at the time they were busy working with Six flags on their inverted Batman model so they didn't get to work with Busch gardens until after Drachen Fire's construction. And plus Busch gardens had more experience with arrow and trust.
ElToroRyan set us straight about that a little while ago. The legend of Drachen Fire being derived from a B&M design makes sense because in many ways, its layout resembles a B&M looper. But it seems that Arrow was just trying to generally keep up with the times.
I just thougt "someone didn't see ElToroRyan's excellent video about Drachen Fire" 😊
Was just about to comment this
And also, Busch Gardens Tampa took a big risk with Kumba, with it being significantly more expensive than Drachen Fire and made with a new manufacturer.
Fair enough, thanks for setting the record straight. In 1992 B&M didnt have much of a portfolio so yeah it doesnt make a whole lot of sense but that was "the rumor" at least
Busch Gardens Williamsburg has a solid coaster lineup and Pantheon just adds so much to the lineup
And Curse of Darkcoaster adds another launch family coaster to the park.
@@keiichimorisato98 Which is unnecessarily redundant, when they have other gaps in their lineup that could have been filled.
Bush Gardens Williamsburg has been on my bucket list for literally years now, not just for the coasters, but for the park itself. BGW is one of those parks that has everything, and plus it’s one of the most photogenic parks out there.
I went to BGW in 2019 and didn’t ride anything other than transportation
Tempesto and Tigris are extreme intensity for a short ride, I love it, one of my Favs.
My most recent new cred was Phobia Phear Coaster at Compounce, which is basically the same ride but without the "comfort collars", just a lap bar. It's a great experience. The model seems like a good fit for smaller parks like Compounce and it's odd that mostly bigger ones have bought them.
@@MattMcIrvin Shows how popular and in Demand Premier SkyRocket 2 models are. It all started with Superman at SFDK.
Lock Ness Monster was two weeks old when I first rode it. Still love it today. I do miss the old coasters in Octoberfeste. Those sweeping curves had great laterals (or so my 40+ year old memory days).
Great list! Thanks for giving Pantheon the love it deserves. Such a world class ride in my opinion 🙌🏻
Hey can you do all the gci by the numbrts
big bad wolf may not be #1 but it is #1 in my heart
Heard that!
I visited back when Pantheon was just the world’s most expensive lawn ornament, but my #1 was Alpengeist. That front row night ride when the track was warmed up in the summer heat was something else.
We still talking coasters?
I went to Williamsburg on Pantheon's 2nd day of operation last year ... closed all day due to wind.. I haven't gotten to ride it since. So sad ...
I was there late 90s and rode big bad wolf and it’s be a nostalgic memory ever since, I couldn’t think of the name of it and I’m glad you made this video because I’ve been trying to find it. I’m sad it’s no longer around.
It's weird that it took a long time for a newer roller coaster like Steel Curtain to replicate Drachen Fire's first drop. That's something I remember from riding it. It was fun, but it was still a hot mess.
Great video! The last time I went to BGW was in 1997 and Alpengeist had just opened. An excellent invert but my last five rides of the night were on the Big Bad Wolf! I loved traveling at the speed of fright, especially at night. Finally unless the Lochness Monster has been retracked it really beats you up. I'll still ride it for nostalgia's sake. As far as Drachen Fire...one ride was more than enough!
Ask me anything about the old ones up to AlpenG…You always bring memories back for me when you go back in time with these rides and parks, things I didnt remember have come back thanks to your videos. From when I was a child. I had so many first with all these parks.
Pantheon is my favorite at the park for sure. It's a great ride, and that back row going up the spike is amazing.
I've been working there for 6 years and been able to see Invader, Finnegan's Flyer, Pantheon and Cutback at Water Country USA be built from start to finish. Drachen Fire is still one of my favorites. We should getting a replacement in that area in a few years
Something there is sorely needed, especially because they wound up putting so many coasters over by Apollo's LOL like they're waaay too close together 😭
Nessie and Wolf and Glissade, always my favorites there, thank you for the great video.
I will always miss Big Bad Wolf! Alpengeist is one of my all time favorite coasters.
Big Bad Wolf was my first “big” coaster in 2005. I LOVED it and made my family ride it 4 or 5 times. I was 9 and my older cousin made fun of me for not wanting to go on any of the bigger rides. So we got in line for Loch Ness Monster and the second my butt hit the train seat, the ride broke down and I got out of it 😁
Lucky...i guess. Id be infuriated
I loved Big Bad Wolf. Loch Ness was too rough the last I was there, but that may have been because my 12 year old son wanted to marathon it after his first ride. The last time I rode Alpengiest was about 6 months after a neck surgery and I really thought I was going to die on it. Sitting in the middle of the train and not being able to brace my neck for tight turns was horrible.
Alpengeist is definitely violently intense
A cool video idea for you would be a top 10 or 25 family coasters. I think it'd be interesting to see things from that secondary point of view
I made a top family coasters about a year ago
@@AirtimeThrills Oh... Goodness, I barely remember it 😂I'll have to find it and give it a rewatch!
I adore Pantheon. It actually places one spot higher in my overall rankings than it's companion Iron Gwazi at BGT. I just think it flows better than Iron Gwazi.
I doubt it will ever happen but I would LOVE to see BGW give Pantheon some better theming and landscaping. I'd love to see an ancient Roman hall for the loading station, Roman gardens (as an extension of the gardens elsewhere in Italy area) in the queue and some rock work, ancient ruins, water features and sculptures of the gods throughout the layout.
Long ago, Grover’s Alpine Express was actually my first coaster!
I love telling this story: my dad finessed me into riding Big bad wolf in 2001 when I was 4 years old because he told me there was “a princess castle” by the ride (aka the Bavarian village) and I was PISSED. I remember crying the whole time, but apparently I stopped screaming and my dad thought I stopped breathing. Was terrified of coasters after that. But I gave it another try at 8 and now I’m bitter it’s gone because I loved it
It was my first roller coaster too. Similar story, there was a hat in a gift shop that I simply had to have; the catch, my father wouldn’t buy it for me unless I rode the roller coaster. So at around age 6 or 7, I got in, screamed and prayed with my eyes closed the whole time, and won my hat. It grew to be my favorite coaster of all time. The theming was impeccable. Smooth. Nostalgia. Plot. BBW had it all. Coincidentally, I ended up in the park unknowingly on the day it made its last run. I have a photograph of myself and my wife, who was my girlfriend at the time, standing beside the sign, and it’s framed in a BBW frame we purchased at the gift shop. This ride was absolutely legendary, and my heart breaks a little each time I go and see that it’s missing. Verbolten is great, but I feel like the engineers really missed the opportunity to revitalize, and introduce the Bigger Badder Wolf. Too many elements lost. To those who never got to experience it: I’m sorry, and I guess you just had to be there.
Great list! I may have put BBW higher. Pound for pound it was elite. No coaster with 80ft max drop, no inversions, and minimal airtime (final drop delivered some) can be expected to be elite, but it was all so well done, culminating in that *perfect* 2nd drop over the river. Most thrilling drop under 100ft i've ever encountered.
Side note - Dat shirt in your pantheon section: "Driver Ride Repeat" .... that's what i'm talking about! So many rides, of all kinds! Preferably make the trip with your partner of choice!
yay new video it’s gonna be a good one
Though I was a child (8-9) when I last rode it, I loved Drachen Fire. It was huge and fast, and I don’t remember it being rough though I believe that it was. What’s really sad is that that plot has sat empty for 25 years now, though that might be changing in the next few years. Overall, love BG, it’s great.
I have a great memory of when I was 4 or 5 years old marathoning Grovers Alpine Express!
It's amazing how Virginia's Arrows are so different. Loch Ness has aged incredibly well while Anaconda...the less said about it the better
With anaconda being so much newer
I really don't get the hate for Anaconda. I mean I only rode it once because I305 is RIGHT THERE, but still. It's not THAT bad.
@@TheSonicsean Facts. Anaconda is not a bad ride by any stretch. The meandering in the 2nd half might be lame, but it's not bad. Beyond that meandering section, it's a good ride. It's not rough at all, and it's forceful & has a great setting over the water. I've ridden it about 8x over my visits, but yeah, I've ridden i305 & TwTim 60-70x each.
Another good video. Keep it going 👍
Since my last visit in 2013, my favorite roller coaster there is Griffon followed by Alpengeist, The Big Bad Wolf (R.I.P.), Loch Ness Monster, Apollo''s Chariot, and Verbolten
3:43 turns out from elToroRyan, turns out the idea didint even come from B&M, it was all arrows idea to make this, infact they were already using computers to make the layout. the problem was is that arrow had stuck to their outdaded building tactics even with the use of computers.
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Did I tell you that I rode Loch Ness Monster the very first season. I was scared, closed my eyes going through the loops and the tunnel was wild back than. And I got to ride every ride you listed. I grew up going to KD and BGW….
Amazing how the BGT team came back on BGW 2 years back in the "4th quarter" with Iron Gwazi opening. I didnt get to ride it, but i watched it unfold, amazingly satisfying. Florida team for the comeback WIN!!!
BGW was my home park when I was in college in the late 1980s, I went back there for some friends' wedding in the early 1990s, and as such, it was formative in my early riding of coasters. Big Bad Wolf was not my first coaster but was the first coaster I ever really *loved*. Loch Ness Monster was my first looper and the ride that taught me that loopers were awesome and I liked them. Though I haven't ridden it in many years, I still rate it as one of my all-time favorites. But I haven't ridden any of their post-Drachen-Fire rides.
I have such complicated feelings about Drachen Fire. I kind of loved it when it rode it, because the layout was tremendous, but it also hurt me. And in hindsight, it put me off riding coasters for many years because, with my limited experience of the modern coasters of the 1990s, I assumed that kind of beating was what I could expect from them. It was only many years later that I realized that Drachen Fire was unusual and was considered a mistake. But reading online about its history around 2010 or 2011 was also one of the things that got me into the online coaster fandom.
I’m from NJ and been there in 2000, 2004, 2021, 2022. I absolutely love this park. It’s so hard for me to choose a favorite coaster from here cuz they’re all so very fun and exciting in their own way. Pantheon is a complete ride, Griffon is just a fun time, I love the classic feel of Nessie, verbolten surprised me, Alpengeist is intense, and the wolf, the wolf was amazing. With all that being said I think I do have to give it to Pantheon but not by much. Such a masterful park all around
Basically the biggest problem with darkoaster is no theming, there’s literally hanging skeleton decorations you could buy at party city by the track
still cracks me up, every time you use that clip of someone losing their phone on Griffons first drop (used in this video @ 12:00) ^^
Yeah griffon and joker (sfdk) i got people losing stuff and use those clips over and over
I can't wait to ride Pantheon. Oddly enough, even though I had a bunch of kiddie coaster credits that I don't count cuz I don't remember them (I'm the oldest child in my family, so I didn't have big siblings to get me on crazy rides, so I had to discover them myself) - my first true big roller coaster was The Big Bad Wolf in 1991 just as I was about to turn 10. It scared the shit out of me and I loved it. And my second was The Wild Cat in Playland, NY that same summer, relocated from Virginia! How fitting! I went back and rode Big Bad Wolf many times after my first visit, and I think I like Verbolten better, which is surprising to me as well! Love Alpgengheist in the front, love Apollo in the back or front. Griffon is perfect. Loch Ness's first drop is perfect.
It’s been 9 years since my first visit, right before I became an enthusiast, so it’s safe to say a return trip is needed, and I plan on getting back there this year. After all, they’ve been adding coasters like crazy and I only have three credits.
I guess you missed ElToroRyan's Drachen Fire video where he laid to rest the rumor that the ride was ever meant to be a B&M! B&M was busy that year, but it was no skin off BGW's nose.
All right i will keep that in mind and squash that story
Video Idea: Ranking Every Hyper Coaster (Like The Giga Ranking)
Love the theming of this park and its coasters! Big bad wolf 🐺was one of the best mild/family coasters! Alpengeist is an amazing coaster⛷‼️
Gotta love that new intro😊
Thanks man I never have gotten a heart from a RUclipsr yet
Completely agree about Invadr! wasn’t a huge fan when I rode it the year it open but I went back last year and thought it was much better!
Pantheon was definitely my favorite at this park, and in my top 10 overall. However, Alpie snuck in and became my favorite invert overall, and took second spot for me in the park which surprised me, as I’m a big dive coaster fan.
This park is incredible, and I can’t wait to get back to it this year. 2024’s rumored addition should be really interesting as well.
loved the Big Bad Wolf...
I got there in February this year and it was barely warm enough to open the coasters when I got there. But Apollo’s Chariot was my favorite out of the three that were open.
I love this park even though I only went once the year alpengeist opened. And i could not get on (too short/young). I did however see DrachenFyre from the train like you said, and i remember it being closed but it was massive and unique. I vividly remember getting on lochness monster, and big bad wolf, especially the ending. I also got on that wilde Mause, and our family thought it would be tame but nope, we all were surprised. But for real, i still remember having to wait for everyone to get on Alpengeist. It's my favorite Invert that i haven't been on.
Lock Ness is iconic but 🤕! Invadr does grow on you though. Verbolten is fun! I loved Big Bad Wolf, but it was really bumpy near the end of its life. Loved the swings over the village. Alpengeist is my ride, especially in the front seat. I like it more than Mantu. Griffon had the best airtime in the rear seat. Pantheon, I don't like little bump hills.
In case you can't tell, this is my home park. Lol.
The old coasters I rode, some of the newer ones, not yet, but I love Glisade…..
I loved Glissade. I loved riding it with my older sister. She held me in place. Lol.
Our top four matches completely… The first time I got that backwards air time on Pantheon, I was in heaven!
For me:
1) Verbolten
2) The Big Bad Wolf
3) Apollo's Chariot
4) Alpengeist
5) Griffon
6) InvadR and Loch Ness Monster (equally fun for me)
7) Tempesto
Have not ridden: DarKoaster, Pantheon, etc. I don't count Grover's Alpine Express, even though I've ridden it. It's not really a coaster at all compared to the rest of the line-up.
Pantheon really does complete the lineup. To me, the park was missing a true standout coaster until Pantheon. Apollo is my 2nd favorite in the park. Even if the airtime is weaker than other B&M hypers, I still love it. It has a great setting, great restraints, and it's very smooth. My # 1 thing to do at the park, though, it still the Celtic Fyre show, my # 1 attraction at any park I've ever visited.
Nice to see Alpie sitting so high on this list. 🙂 While it’s by no means perfect, the praise is well deserved.
i rode drachen fire in my peak coaster riding teen years and i recall it being very painful, didn’t want a second ride. I can only imagine how it felt to those 35+
I do remember going to Adventure Park and riding the Wildcat!
Edit : My fav is Alpengiest.
1. Pantheon - a home run in every way except for the pathetic lack in theming.
2. Apollo’s Chariot - still one of my all time favs
3. Griffon - Love this dive coaster just wish it was a little longer
4. Alpengeist - I love how intense this is and it’s one of the best night ride coasters.
5. Loch Ness - nostalgia keeps this high up. It was my dads favorite coaster so it will always have a special place in my heart.
6. Big Bad Wolf - my 1st ever “big” coaster, man I miss this ride.
7. Verbolten - BG did about as good as they could do to replace BBW. Really fun ride.
8. Invadr - a fun family woody
9. Tempesto - a ton of fun packed into about 10 seconds of a ride.
10. Drachen Fire - I never got to ride this. I remember seeing it but I was young and still too scared of coasters with inversions. I could kick myself for not riding it.
Well, you missed out on some pain.
Video idea: Ranking EVERY coaster on Pluto.
That top three is also my top three. Alpengeist, Griffon, and Pantheon are all excellent coasters
11:58 lost hat lol
I rode all of them. Been going since 1977. First to ride Lochness Monster in 1978. Drakenfire beat your head against the head rest.
Video I idea for the next one: do Hersheypark when wildcats revenge opens and u get on it.
Thats definitely in the plans
Let’s go!
My home park is Canada's Wonderland. We have a Arrow Suspended, it's called Vortex. It's super fast and very scenic, the helix goes around the tunnel for Yukon Striker. I liked the looks of all these coasters except the Wild Mouse, bruises. 😢😢❤
Just went to Busch Gardens Williamsburg last Friday and I think your list is pretty solid. Darkoaster is fun, but nothing special. Back row on Apollo's Chariot was incredible! Griffon definitely beats Valravn. Alpengeist was intense! I did not expect the cobra roll to hit so hard. Loch Ness in the back row and its negative G's at the bottom of the loops... Ugh. Definitely ride Tempesto in the back. And Pantheon... Holy crap! Rode it 3 times and it's good all over. The outerbanked hill after the top hat is insane!
Drove by Dominion on the way home. Should've stopped to ride Intimidator... 🫤
Verbolten is my wildcard pick for best rollercoaster, to say, I know it's not in the elite class, but it's my personal favorite. haven't ever been on Hagrid's, or any other drop track, but the Verbolten drop track gets ne every time!!! also some nice views on the outdoor section
I haven't been there since the 80's but I'm looking to change that this spring. I am waiting for an opening date for Darkoaster
12:02 did anyone see the phone fly out lol
You should do a by the numbers video with your top 25 coasters
I haven’t been on Loch Ness Monster, Verbolten and InvadR yet but I’ll get on those most likely this year I do have Pantheon at my number 1 at the park I have ridden Alpengeist, Tempesto and Apollo’s Chariot, Pantheon and Griffon so I’ll need to add a few more credits because I got to the park as the sun was setting and it got super crowded during their Halloween event
I love that park
I am also a huge Alpengeist fan and will always sing its praises. Easy America's second best invert after Montu.
I’ve been to BGW thrice in my life, twice in the mid 2000s and once again in 2019. To date I’ve never ridden any coasters there, so while I have seen Wolf with my own eyes, I’ve never ridden on it.
My family started going to BGW not long after it opened in the 70s, but I never dared to ride coasters there until the 80s, so Big Bad Wolf was the first one I rode there, but I never experienced the old Schwarzkopf portable coasters--wish I had.
@@MattMcIrvin I’ve never ridden any Schwarzkopf coasters, not even Revolution or Montezooma's Revenge when I lived in California. I almost rode the former, but didn’t.
0:12 Nice Rollercoaster Tycoon reference
I don’t get it. I played RCT3 a lot and I don’t get what you’re referencing.
Out of all the coasters in top 5 I could only ride one of them during my visit pretty much every ride was closed when I was there
Been going to Busch since the early 1980's.
1. Pantheon
2. Apollo
3. Alpengeist
4. Griffon
5. BBW
6. Loch Ness
7. Invadr
Not a big fan of Verbolten. Glissade was better than Die Wildcatze as well if I remember correctly.
Big bad wolf 😭
5:17 this coaster is also in Keansburg New Jersey
lost hat at 12:01 lol
Heading there for the first time next month! I hope everything will be open 😐
My home park ❤
I love Sheikra, but Valvrn is my favorite. Cant beat the first drop and coming back through the water, it was intense for being a dive coaster.
Was there today, worker for iron gwazi said that 2024 they’re getting a vekoma and 2025 they’re getting a giga
Bet their uncle works at Nintendo
Drachen Fire is surely top 10, maybe even as high as 5. Although after saying that can't really dig in to how rough my last ride on Alpengeist was, though that was whole body. Did want to take DF very seriously because it could possibly hurt you permanently. Amazed it lasted as long as it did in retrospect -- although in a few more years a lot of B&Ms will be as rough as the Arrows left around.
'Located in France, this was America's second dive coaster' that sentence sounds really weird out of context.
I wish I liked riding coasters when drachen fire was up and running I think my favorite ride is alpengeist
Loch Ness was too low on the list. Looking forward to the redesign. Yesterday when I was at the park they already have the first loop track completely removed
Video idea: BGT vs BGW
12:00 lol that loose article. rip.
I agree with your list for the most part. I personally enjoy Lochness Monster more than Verbolten but everything else is the same.
Video Idea: Do Busch Gardens Tampa every coaster past and present
This will be done for sure, just waiting a bit since i did tampa by the numbers recently
Never been to BGW I’ll probably go next year. I’m planning on going to Florida this summer just for the major coaster parks. I’ll skip Disney this time.
11:58 The second guy on the last row lost his hat!
I went in 2021, and my favorite coaster there was Apollo’s Chariot
that's the park im going to in the following week, hope pantheon doesn't disappoint like velocicoaster
Who’s going to tell him?
if you think veloci was dissapointing, then youll fall asleep on pantheon lmfao
Two things:
1. If you’re expecting Pantheon to be better than VelociCoaster, you will be disappointed again.
2. Pantheon isn’t yet open for the season. It might open within the next week, but there’s no way to be sure…
Pantheon is not open right now it's still the off season for the park
@@bradleybass9280 in velocicoaster's defense, i got row 3 and stapled
I am heading to BGW in June 2023 I will have to see if Pantheon is my favorite
If this is all they give us then hopefully they will also open up the grand pavilion so we can also enjoy this. I think this will initially be a hit(because of wild mouse) but then it could kill early entry.
Hi Mr. Thrills,
I love roller coasters, but I’m afraid of heights. I think it would be cool and helpful to do some kind of list of coasters in the same park whose drops gradually increase. So far I’ve worked my way up to Iron Rattler, but one day I wanna ride millennium force, fury 325, and even Kingda Ka.
That’s my video request to you, from a happy subscriber!
Interesting idea, it would pretty much have to be all in the same park for the list to make sense but for bigger parks it could work
@@AirtimeThrills Honestly, if the park had the right coasters, I would travel there to help conquer my fear!
I truly believe there is a good chance of an RMC Hyper Hybrid coming to the Drachen Fire plot.
it makes the most sense to have, and the fact that bgt got iron gwazi and both parks usually get pretty similar rides
Twisted Timbers: Visibly Shaking
@@Apollosdemise only sometimes
Kumba and Drachen Fire (sorta)
Montu and Alpengeist
ShieKra and Griffon
Air Grover and Grover’s Alpine Express
Cheetah Hunt and Pantheon (or Verbolten)
Tigris and Tempesto
Loch Ness Monster is leagues ahead of Python, Gwazi and InvadR never coexisted (InvadR even uses some of Gwazi’s trains), Wilde Maus and SandSerpent are literally the same exact coaster, and everything else has no equivalent.
@@DoswarePictures The only odd one out is Scorpion @BGT?
@@markvolpe2305 Tampa has no equivalent of:
Apollo’s Chariot
Loch Ness Monster (Python is way smaller and different)
DarKoaster
Verbolten (if you consider it different enough from Cheetah Hunt or consider Pantheon VA’s version)
Big Bad Wolf
Das Kätzchen
Die Wildkatze
Glissade
And possibly Drachen Fire
While Williamsburg has no equivalent of
Cobra’s Curse
Kumba (in terms of B&M loopers)
SandSerpent (relocation)
Scorpion
Python
Iron Gwazi
Gwazi 1999 (didn’t coexist with InvadR)