Just bought a WA-47 jr after trying out dozens of other mics and I couldn't be happier. Very flattering on vocals. I have a voice that can come across as overly sharp or harsh and when I try to EQ to correct it gets muddy. This mic leaves my voice sounding like it does live. No overly sharp of harsh tones to start with so I can focus on other things. Anyways love the mic, planning on buying it's big brother someday.
Same here. My vocal technique isn’t spot on so can get some harsh sounds, but I tested this mic yesterday in the store with headphones and found myself singing and forgetting everyone around me. It’s literally the smoothest mic I’ve ever heard with no added compressor or EQ. I would say to have a secondary mic with a brighter sound for doubles or harmonies. That could hide the harshness on main vocal line but lift up certain spots.
I've worked with an actual U-47 within a professional environment. Even with RUclips's notorious compression I could immediately hear some of that detailed "fab 4" magic on that acoustic guitar demo in my monitors. What I wasn't prepared for?! Is just how damn good that WA-47 Jr sounds for it's price point! Holy Smokes! For that price?! I'm seriously tempted to get myself 2 or even 4 of those mics for covering all my home pocket studio recording needs. I'm normally not quite that easily impressed. Especially with sub $500 mics, but man. I think they really nailed some of that vintage mojo, and at a price point that can be appreciated by any aspiring home recording enthusiast. Novice or pro. Well done.
I never understand why large retail centers like Sweetwater don't do a proper mic shootout with a dual mic setup and the same take. Also allowing a perspective buyer to download the audio of both mics for a real truthful hands-on comparison. Even straight into Protools without any post processing, were the input levels the same? Did the demo musicians preform with the exact same intensity and volume on both mics? We'll never know unless both mics were used from the exact same performance.
Another thing these manufacturers are people love to hide frequency response charts. Wtf are they not showing these up front. This has always made me wonder.
Sweetwater did a massive microphone shootout of 50 microphones. Including some industry staples and their most popular sellers. Includes Hi-Res audio files for download and even the Pro Tools session! Check it out: www.sweetwater.com/feature/vocal-mic-shootout/
Exactly. Even a cheap Chinese mic can sound ok if you avoid the dreaded "esses". Let's hear "Sunshine surely shows sideways" and see what the WA47 is made out of.
I like the WA-47Jr most on acoustic guitar, and as drum room mic. It's nice on my deeper, darker male voice, and on bass cab. It works quite well as a kick drum mic too, with a little EQ lift around 50-60hz, and a nice transformer pre, like a Neve 1073-style one. It works particularly well on my Camden EC1 with some 'Thump' dialed in on the Mojo circuit. And they are also good as piano mic pairs. I think of it as a good mic for deeper sounding instruments, that you want to sound punch and full, but not to boomy. I'm less of a fan of it for drum overheads, bright electric guitar or female voice. There's a brilliance/glare around 3-4k that can be a tad grating. I think the WA-47 is better in that regard, and needs less processing. Though I maybe slightly preferred the Jr. on acoustic guitar, it's more articulate and has faster response to picking.
I have never been a huge fan of the Tele reissue. It's far more open than the vintage U47s I've used. You can actually hear them next to each other now on Audio Test Kitchen. For me the FleA 47 and Heiserman 47 are closer and better for your budget than the Tele. I recently had the WA47 in my studio for about 6 months, and I have to say I think it's the best sub $1000 tube mic I've ever had in my studio save maybe my Advanced Audio CM49. Certainly the best 47 style mic at that price. I preferred it to the Peluso 2247LE I used to own. It's certainly not as refined a sound as the FleA 47 I have access to, but it's nice. I'll have my review out on that shortly.
@@EandVEntertainment Oh stop it, no one can tell anything apart on blind test 😂 Not mics, definitely not preamps, sometimes compressors if we are judging a 5k compressor against a 50$ one but even there we all failed gearslutz. 😆✌🏽
A K47 capsule (or M7) really doesn't produce peaks in the range where sibilance happens, such as you'd have with a K67 or K87 capsule with no negative feedback. You're not going to have problems with sibilance.
the jr sounds darker to me as in less high freqs, kind of more like the U47 which is darker handles lower freqs and highs are kept in control. I dont know....a real U47 tube in there would have been interesting. Jr is the same capsule as the WA87 so the tube and transformer must be doing the sound differences. All high quality components I ve read? good video! thanks
This really helps! I have a new mic invention and needed to see the differences between these two mics. Seems that with my invention, I can transform a "less expensive mic" to sound like these wonderful mics. I can change the freq response naturally and other values, even with no preamp. I can only imagine if I added the technology to these mics, would be most excellent! Thanks for the comparison, appreciate it!
I have the WA87, which is a brilliant reproduction and sounds a lot like a vintage U87 I used to borrow a lot. If the WA47 is half as similar as the U47 as the WA87 is to the U87, then I'm very intrigued.
I bought both of them... My WA47 got broken and now is at repair so I bought a WA47jr. The Jr. isn't bad for around 300$'s. It has some more crispy highs and sibilance isn't that nice but nothing which you can't fix in post production. I am in love with the WA47. It is much warmer (ok there is a tube inside). If you have the money I'd recommend you the 47 or the 251.
Can you comment on how these mic’s would be for a podcaster/voice actor? I am currently working with a sm7b which is fantastic but just looking at alternatives. Thanks.
Hi, Andrew. Great question. The WA-47 Jr is one of my first suggestions for voice actors looking for an affordable and fantastic condenser microphone. It has a very low noise floor, which is important for voice recording, and a rich neutral sound to it. So it isn't over-hyped in the sibilance range. The full WA-47 with a tube is an excellent mic, but the tube stage adds a pretty hefty amount of noise, which makes it less than ideal for voice-alone work. You should expect a slightly more open sound stage from the WA-47 Jr compared to the SM7B, and it will be more sensitive to background noises, so watch that AC and the family pet! If you have any other questions, just give me a ring! Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
Could be the inherent noise of the preamps of the recorder. Unless you have a high end handheld recorder, the noise floor of those preamps can be pretty high.
@JDS Bleedo Bette than a tlm49 ?.or a tlm.102.103?.also would you think this or the wa47 bigger version best for rap vocals I have a real deep voice? I am also looking at a at4050 and a wa87
Hey guys! We just recorded 2020 American Idol Top 40 Jeb Vonder Bruegge EP "Confessions" with the WA-47 on his vocals. I picked one up from my fav SW rep Delvin. All but the song Crown (live) which was a 7B. Pre was Summit TPA 200B, WA-1176 4:1, Med Attack, Fast Release, 2-3db, RME, into Protools. It beat out all others on his voice. Well worth the money. IMO. All audio available on Spot, iTune, others.ruclips.net/video/fzUcai0d2i4/видео.html
lol Just rewatching this, and I’m noticing everybody complaining about no sibilance in the vocal tests... i.e., people couldn’t hear any of the *easiest possible thing* to analyze in a vocal recording, so they think it’s worthless 😏🙄😑
"Couldn't be more different", dude it's the same capsule, that's the most important part. The hard part is changing electricity to sound or the other way around. But I guess you have to say that since the price difference is so big. Sure, they sound different. But take the same electronics and put in a different capsule, and the difference will be greater.
Big company like SweetWater, and this is the best vocalist they could get for the job of giving us a mic check? Makes me not want to even buy it. I need to hear a real singer singing on it, and really want to hear how it handles sibilance. Geeessshhh, not too much to ask is it? You guys make enough money to get a real vocalist in place of this guy. C'mon, no more shoddy vids
people get all caught up in the "name" of a microphone. Went in Nightwing Studios with Ron Capone - look him up, Grammy and Oscar winning engineer and producer. Sadly he's no longer with us. at any rate, he set up 57's on my Ludwig kit all around, and two overhead condenser mics that looked like they had been in a war zone. I asked "where are the Neumanns, the Telefunkens? how the hell are you going to get the awesome, grooving sounds of my Super Classics?? what is up with this?" After taking me to the mic locker and showing me all the gorgeous German legendary mics dully gleaming in the recessed lighting, he gave me this sage piece of advice: "Shut the hell up and play!" Straight into the board, my drums - with ME actually playing them, sounded like a gift from the Gods! Never before, never since has any of my kits sounded like that. Moral of the story: it ain't the name on the mic, it's learning how to listen, develop your ears. Unless you've got a Neve board, you won't notice the difference between this mic and a Neumann in the mix. If you can, and I can hear the difference in the master. call me, I wanna book time with YOU! M
for comparison
2:50 - WA-47 Acoustic guitar
3:14 - WA-47jr Acoustic guitar
3:44 WA-47 Male vocal
4:10 WA-47jr Male vocal
Just bought a WA-47 jr after trying out dozens of other mics and I couldn't be happier. Very flattering on vocals. I have a voice that can come across as overly sharp or harsh and when I try to EQ to correct it gets muddy. This mic leaves my voice sounding like it does live. No overly sharp of harsh tones to start with so I can focus on other things. Anyways love the mic, planning on buying it's big brother someday.
I ordered 2 today for drum overheads. I'm reading great things when used in that application.
How are they on overheads? I love my 47 jr on kicks
That's exactly what I wanted to hear, because my voice is the same way. Just maxing out soothe kind be the sollution! haha. Gonna try this!
Is wa47jr is for analog I'm confused with 47jr or at2020
Same here. My vocal technique isn’t spot on so can get some harsh sounds, but I tested this mic yesterday in the store with headphones and found myself singing and forgetting everyone around me. It’s literally the smoothest mic I’ve ever heard with no added compressor or EQ.
I would say to have a secondary mic with a brighter sound for doubles or harmonies. That could hide the harshness on main vocal line but lift up certain spots.
I've worked with an actual U-47 within a professional environment. Even with RUclips's notorious compression I could immediately hear some of that detailed "fab 4" magic on that acoustic guitar demo in my monitors. What I wasn't prepared for?!
Is just how damn good that WA-47 Jr sounds for it's price point! Holy Smokes!
For that price?! I'm seriously tempted to get myself 2 or even 4 of those mics for covering all my home pocket studio
recording needs.
I'm normally not quite that easily impressed. Especially with sub $500 mics, but man. I think they really nailed some of that vintage mojo, and at a price point that can be appreciated by any aspiring home recording enthusiast. Novice or pro.
Well done.
You seem like someone from Warm Audio
@@Govinda_005 They aren't. That's just someone who really likes the gear they buy.
I never understand why large retail centers like Sweetwater don't do a proper mic shootout with a dual mic setup and the same take. Also allowing a perspective buyer to download the audio of both mics for a real truthful hands-on comparison. Even straight into Protools without any post processing, were the input levels the same? Did the demo musicians preform with the exact same intensity and volume on both mics? We'll never know unless both mics were used from the exact same performance.
Sound Legend Studios agreed they’re are like let’s really not give them anything. Wack. Haha
Another thing these manufacturers are people love to hide frequency response charts. Wtf are they not showing these up front. This has always made me wonder.
Sweetwater did a massive microphone shootout of 50 microphones. Including some industry staples and their most popular sellers. Includes Hi-Res audio files for download and even the Pro Tools session!
Check it out: www.sweetwater.com/feature/vocal-mic-shootout/
Yeah dope for protools users. They set everything up. What about the other Daw’s? Bummer. lol. Yes i heard they still have the files available. Lol.
Payola
Ooh, ooh, tu, tu, du, du and we cant hear any sibilants. Nice...
true, so true
Exactly. Even a cheap Chinese mic can sound ok if you avoid the dreaded "esses". Let's hear "Sunshine surely shows sideways" and see what the WA47 is made out of.
Gabrijel Prusina OK I feel cold all of a sudden
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@zuider77 wa47 and wa47jr is made in China,lol~ a lot of 251 style mic made in us all have ss or sh sound,this is why need eq on it.
ti ri tititi oh oh oh oh...how about some "words" specially "silence" "spy" "stone" etc
Very happy with my purchase!
doo woop diddee ddoo wopp bamm yee ooh dee dahh lippee booo baaammm shmoo dee dooo what a great song.
The CD can be purchased both on amazon or in the gift shop.
I like the WA-47Jr most on acoustic guitar, and as drum room mic. It's nice on my deeper, darker male voice, and on bass cab. It works quite well as a kick drum mic too, with a little EQ lift around 50-60hz, and a nice transformer pre, like a Neve 1073-style one. It works particularly well on my Camden EC1 with some 'Thump' dialed in on the Mojo circuit. And they are also good as piano mic pairs. I think of it as a good mic for deeper sounding instruments, that you want to sound punch and full, but not to boomy. I'm less of a fan of it for drum overheads, bright electric guitar or female voice. There's a brilliance/glare around 3-4k that can be a tad grating. I think the WA-47 is better in that regard, and needs less processing. Though I maybe slightly preferred the Jr. on acoustic guitar, it's more articulate and has faster response to picking.
Thanks for making this video. Been wondering about that Jr. for the last week or so.
Glad to help! Thanks for checking out the video! 😎
oh cool i never realized that warm upside down still reads as warm!
Would love to hear a comparison between the WA47 and the new Telefunken U47.
theres a reason they didnt do that. it would be night and day
@@itchik529 Wow, really? One mic doesn't hold up to another that costs 10 TIMES as much? Who would have figured.
ST would never compare products as policy, all
Are valid choices...
I have never been a huge fan of the Tele reissue. It's far more open than the vintage U47s I've used. You can actually hear them next to each other now on Audio Test Kitchen. For me the FleA 47 and Heiserman 47 are closer and better for your budget than the Tele. I recently had the WA47 in my studio for about 6 months, and I have to say I think it's the best sub $1000 tube mic I've ever had in my studio save maybe my Advanced Audio CM49. Certainly the best 47 style mic at that price. I preferred it to the Peluso 2247LE I used to own. It's certainly not as refined a sound as the FleA 47 I have access to, but it's nice. I'll have my review out on that shortly.
@@EandVEntertainment Oh stop it, no one can tell anything apart on blind test 😂 Not mics, definitely not preamps, sometimes compressors if we are judging a 5k compressor against a 50$ one but even there we all failed gearslutz. 😆✌🏽
I have the jr mic. Its great! Big low end but not too much, and a smooth top with no sibilance. I have done sung and rap vocals with it.
Christopher Watkins Music Thanks Bro... I was thinking about buying the jr but was afraid of sibilance... Cheers
@@luisloucao477 i Can teach you how to resolve sibilants on a mix just with eq and de-esser
Do u have an audio to listen ?
Is wa47jr is for analog I'm confused to buy with 47jr or at2020 do i need to buy a amp as well??
Thanks for participation in the discussion with valuable suggestion.?
Wa47 sounds warmer and a lot thicker
Just got mine yesterday. Sounds big and lush.
Joe Black which one
The vocal samples don't help at all. Sing something to show how sibilants are handled
A K47 capsule (or M7) really doesn't produce peaks in the range where sibilance happens, such as you'd have with a K67 or K87 capsule with no negative feedback. You're not going to have problems with sibilance.
Is wa47jr is for analog I'm confused with 47jr or at2020
the jr sounds darker to me as in less high freqs, kind of more like the U47 which is darker handles lower freqs and highs are kept in control.
I dont know....a real U47 tube in there would have been interesting. Jr is the same capsule as the WA87 so the tube and transformer must be doing the sound differences. All high quality components I ve read? good video! thanks
Is wa47jr is for analog I'm confused to buy with 47jr or at2020 do i need to buy a amp as well, ps i am avoiding nt1 because of siblances
The 47 definitely had more roundness and warmth and a bit more volume than the 47jr.
Maybe. but He "sings totally different, like He was shy singing with Jr what makes it sounds worse agains 47 ''better performance"
This really helps! I have a new mic invention and needed to see the differences between these two mics. Seems that with my invention, I can transform a "less expensive mic" to sound like these wonderful mics. I can change the freq response naturally and other values, even with no preamp. I can only imagine if I added the technology to these mics, would be most excellent! Thanks for the comparison, appreciate it!
We should collaborate. I got some ideas sir. 😐✊
Name of program please @Esoteric Audiophile
Is it called EQ?
I have the WA87, which is a brilliant reproduction and sounds a lot like a vintage U87 I used to borrow a lot.
If the WA47 is half as similar as the U47 as the WA87 is to the U87, then I'm very intrigued.
I’d be curious to know how many of the comments here were from people listening through their CELL PHONE SPEAKERS.
Lmfaooo
Hello, what is the name of the stand you use for the microphone?


is the tube hard to change when it's time?
2:50 WA47 3:14 WA47jr
Excelente video . Pregunta la cápsula es la misma en ambos ?
Si es ma misma cápsula
I bought both of them... My WA47 got broken and now is at repair so I bought a WA47jr.
The Jr. isn't bad for around 300$'s. It has some more crispy highs and sibilance isn't that nice but nothing which you can't fix in post production.
I am in love with the WA47. It is much warmer (ok there is a tube inside). If you have the money I'd recommend you the 47 or the 251.
You can easily hear how much bigger the WA47 sounds in these samples.
Is wa47jr is for analog I'm confused to buy with 47jr or at2020 do i need to buy a amp as well
how did it break RIZE?
Super informative presentations. Thank you :)
I liked the sound of the jr better!
Is it worth getting one of these if you already have a Neumann TLM 103? Finding that decision very hard to make at the moment.
Have you found the answer?
Common I hate these type of vocal demos. Other than that, great demo and mics
Can you comment on how these mic’s would be for a podcaster/voice actor? I am currently working with a sm7b which is fantastic but just looking at alternatives. Thanks.
Hi, Andrew. Great question. The WA-47 Jr is one of my first suggestions for voice actors looking for an affordable and fantastic condenser microphone. It has a very low noise floor, which is important for voice recording, and a rich neutral sound to it. So it isn't over-hyped in the sibilance range. The full WA-47 with a tube is an excellent mic, but the tube stage adds a pretty hefty amount of noise, which makes it less than ideal for voice-alone work. You should expect a slightly more open sound stage from the WA-47 Jr compared to the SM7B, and it will be more sensitive to background noises, so watch that AC and the family pet! If you have any other questions, just give me a ring!
Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com
nice lyrics
I love the male voice.❤
WA 47 JR HAVE TRANSFORMERLESS IN THE WEB OF WARM SEE WE HAVE?
Don’t get Nick angry, you wouldn’t like him when he’s angry. 🤢
That is very beautiful... when my mic is inexpensive... I wish some time in God's time.. I can be able to afford this.❤
The Jr sounded classic for the male voice
Mitch is such a boss.
Sounds great! Thanks! God bless!
Why didn’t you use both mics on the same take? I thought these guys were pro
How is there no noise in these recordings?? It seems every time I try to record something with my handheld recorder there’s always noise.
Are handheld recorders just that bad or is it the environment?
Could be the inherent noise of the preamps of the recorder. Unless you have a high end handheld recorder, the noise floor of those preamps can be pretty high.
JR sound a little sweater for me 👍
A little sweater? How small is this sweater?
🤣🤣🤣
Who makes their k47 capsules? Where?
weedywet Some manufacturer in australia
Rode, perhaps?
It would be nice to hear some real text when singing
hello SweetwaterSound, thanks for your good video
Hey, no problem! Thanks for watching! 😎👍
WA47jr would be more comparable to a solid state U87 clone.
Exactly.
Really? How?
would love to have heard a vocalist not that mess
That singer was half asleep
"Theme From Quincy" scat-vocal version.
I need that Jr!!!!
BLEEDO MUSIC how do u like it?
@JDS Bleedo Bette than a tlm49 ?.or a tlm.102.103?.also would you think this or the wa47 bigger version best for rap vocals I have a real deep voice? I am also looking at a at4050 and a wa87
@JDS Bleedo thx so much str! !!!!
900 bucks one sounds so much better on vocals, not that the Jr sounds bad.
Didn't know Nick could sing though :O
Is wa47jr is for analog I'm confused with 47jr or at2020
Hey guys! We just recorded 2020 American Idol Top 40 Jeb Vonder Bruegge EP "Confessions" with the WA-47 on his vocals. I picked one up from my fav SW rep Delvin. All but the song Crown (live) which was a 7B. Pre was Summit TPA 200B, WA-1176 4:1, Med Attack, Fast Release, 2-3db, RME, into Protools. It beat out all others on his voice. Well worth the money. IMO. All audio available on Spot, iTune, others.ruclips.net/video/fzUcai0d2i4/видео.html
lol Just rewatching this, and I’m noticing everybody complaining about no sibilance in the vocal tests... i.e., people couldn’t hear any of the *easiest possible thing* to analyze in a vocal recording, so they think it’s worthless 😏🙄😑
"Couldn't be more different", dude it's the same capsule, that's the most important part. The hard part is changing electricity to sound or the other way around. But I guess you have to say that since the price difference is so big. Sure, they sound different. But take the same electronics and put in a different capsule, and the difference will be greater.
Good
Tenho um microfone WA 47 p vender top se interessa da um toque
Quanto?
3:45 bad singer
Both microphones sound the same ... a linguistic test would be interesting
Big company like SweetWater, and this is the best vocalist they could get for the job of giving us a mic check? Makes me not want to even buy it. I need to hear a real singer singing on it, and really want to hear how it handles sibilance. Geeessshhh, not too much to ask is it? You guys make enough money to get a real vocalist in place of this guy. C'mon, no more shoddy vids
EXACTLY! Smh
Hahahahahaha
Who did you want, Sinatra?🤔
No one sounds great isolated.
And let's be honest -- probably setting a more realistic expectation hearing it on a mid-level vocalist.
thank you for the vid. this mics definitely not suited man's voice ))
have you ever heard a neumann u47 no dude you cant copy it by made in china
@Murada I agree. They seem like they were designed to make you feel like you were a Adele lol
people get all caught up in the "name" of a microphone. Went in Nightwing Studios with Ron Capone - look him up, Grammy and Oscar winning engineer and producer. Sadly he's no longer with us. at any rate, he set up 57's on my Ludwig kit all around, and two overhead condenser mics that looked like they had been in a war zone. I asked "where are the Neumanns, the Telefunkens? how the hell are you going to get the awesome, grooving sounds of my Super Classics?? what is up with this?" After taking me to the mic locker and showing me all the gorgeous German legendary mics dully gleaming in the recessed lighting, he gave me this sage piece of advice: "Shut the hell up and play!" Straight into the board, my drums - with ME actually playing them, sounded like a gift from the Gods! Never before, never since has any of my kits sounded like that. Moral of the story: it ain't the name on the mic, it's learning how to listen, develop your ears. Unless you've got a Neve board, you won't notice the difference between this mic and a Neumann in the mix. If you can, and I can hear the difference in the master. call me, I wanna book time with YOU! M
@@321CatDaddy indeed..for drums!
jr sounds trash. takes away some high end and some mid frequencies however, a good engineer could fix that post recording