Bears Film Review: Justin Fields, bad defense & more analysis with Josh Lucas | Hoge & Jahns
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this Hoge & Jahns RUclips EXCLUSIVE, Josh Lucas returns to break down some film from the loss to the Broncos, Justin Fields' game, o-line and defensive issues and much more. Check out Josh on the full podcast as well!
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Listened to Chase Daniels breakdown on the JF1 throw to Mooney. He was certain Mooney had a slant option on the out and based on the look should have taken that and that was what JF1 was expecting. He then has to adjust to make the throw outside. Makes much more sense than what Josh was talking about. You can in Justin's base footwork he is looking to throw it inside, his feet are in place for a slant.
Tom Grossi brought up a point I never thought about. George always says he is not an evaluator of talent so he always gets guys who their strengths are scouting/eval talent. Then the team just becomes a bunch of potentials and nobody is there who knows how to develop them. Nobody gets better due to coaching on this team, if they don't come here with the skills already they will die on the vine.
Tell Tom this ain’t peewee football. Everyone comes to the NFL with skill. ESPECIALLY if you are a first-rounder like seriously. These coaches can only do so much, they can teach them how to play football on a basic level, I’m sure if they could drug everyone up with superpowers they would, they only devise game plans so that they may display the skill that they should already have. So Grossi’s point is moot, no one should have their hands held all the time.
Grossi doesn't know wtf he's talking about. All he cares about is donations.
Big fan of this type of breakdown Hoge and Jahns
14:10 - An indictment of Getsy (and Nagy in absentia). Fields deserves a better OC and better coaching, especially, if he's going to blamed for everything else under the sun.
100% that play should be shown in his resignation packet. Wtf are you running out of the shotgun for and then blame Wright for it
Really enjoy the format and film breakdown for more context. I know the professionals in the comment section know more but I can’t find any of their film breakdown so this is good too 😂
Great vid. Conclusion: Outside of D.J. Moore, the talent we acquired isn't performing. Is it their level of talent or is it scheme? I'm saying both. A Poles and Flus problem.
Great show, thank you
Hearing Josh critique Kmet’s route running here confirms everything we have heard from JT already. Cole is not a split out TE. He’s an in-line guy. He is not quick enough in space to beat anyone.
8:38 yes they do give a man/zone tell in terms of obvious 1 high but the safeties rotate on the strength change with the motion. It's 1 high match...
Cole Kmet runs routes like he was made by Boston Dynamic 5 years ago.
ROBOTIC
reattformma,thanks! I am still not sure that on JF's INT the Ball was tipped at the line. Might have caused it to go a little to the outside shoulder... regardless, as Josh said, things like this happenand JF has to continue to throw these anticapatory throws just like th receivers need to help build some more trust with him on them.
Did he litterally say this is a "Good Job by the OL" lol wow bro the OL on the first play he shows. Borom literally is getting WALKED BACK into the lap of the QB. He said multiple times Cody's a little late, Borom gets rocked back. So the OL was not Terrible on this play but they werent good. Guess who wasnt terrible on this play (a little late) Justin Fields. See we can grade the team with 2 different lenses. Either you did your job or you didnt. JF double cluthes and holds the ball to long. OL late on picking up the stunt. LT getting WHIPPED on a bull rush (Borom had a terrible game by the way) normally this play kills the bears through the first 3 weeks. Expecting our QB to bail out bad OL play because if the ball is not out on time every throw then we are in trouble
If you look around the league, there is rarely any team that has at least one OL getting bullied every play. Asking your line to hold up for 3+ seconds every play is impossible
@@Foremangrill also it looks like it wasn't late. Mooney was running a choice route and JF prob thought he was going to run a slant based on the outside leverage of the corner. Good thing he reset instead of anticipating the throw
if Mooney went inside that was a 30 yard play
Boo this man!
YEAHHHHHH AFTER LISTENING TO JOSH LUCAS INTERVIEW ON 670 THE SCORE AND HOW HE HAD A HUGE HAND IN PICKING TRASHBINSKY OVER MAHOMES AND NOT EVEN WANTING TO REMOTELY CONSIDER WATSON ION TAKE SHIT THIS GUY SAYS SERIOUSLY 😒🗑👎🏾
No one takes this guy seriously he just wants to talk 💩 about fields.
Mahomes would have been ruined in Chicago. Facts
@@1Stoltzy Wrong.
@@1Stoltzy facts
Really not sure we should be listening to the guy who thought MVP Mitch was a better prospect than Deshaun Watson
EXACTLY!!!!!! 🗑👎🏾
Exactly, I'm going to skip this video. Because all this is, is fields blame.
People are allowed to make mistakes and learn from them
@@CBPfilm Yup
Very first play is cover 3 shell, he's looking at the 1vs 1 deep in the seam first.
Such an awful play-call on that 4th and 1. How in the world do you run the exact same HB draw back to back - after taking the play-clock down on the hard count and then a timeout nonetheless?? There’s a reason why the Broncos could guess the play, they just saw it 2 minutes ago
That ball to Cole Kmet was PERFECT‼️
It was intercepted
@@I.apologist that was on Kmet
@@bigdap100 it actually wasn't. Kmet followed the design according to the coverage. Did you not hear what Justin said? He says he wanted to play "football” and go off script. Kmet was supposed to stop at the top of his route and break out the other way. The defender was playing man and overplayed him. Justin did not wait for Kmet to get more depth. Justin and Kmet said this today.
@@I.apologist there is no such thing as a route that snatches in the opposite direction at the end...unless it’s a Mahomes and Kelce type improvisation...
When Justin said make a “football play” he’s saying have common senses and Protect the route.
Kmet has screwed up like they before and caused an interception...I mentioned this last year....
Justin Fields doesn’t trust the receivers b/c they give bad intel, they are a bad read unless they are running a streak b/c at that point he doesn’t have to rely on them making a smart cut on the defender....
I can tell just by watching them, he’s not afraid to throw he’s not sure how they are going to run their route.
And last year some of the receivers ADMITTED that they run the wrong routes‼️
When you hear players talk about being great route runners...this is what they’re talking about....being intelligent in real time so that the QB can trust you.
The WR are the QBs eyes up the field, they actually participate in reading the defense...they don’t just run the lines as they are drawn on paper, they respond in real time to the safety and defense b/c it takes the burden off the QB so that he doesn’t have to be frikkin’ Xavier from the X-Men and see in different directions at once...
Being a great QB starts with can you actually throw the ball...yes, Fields has an outstanding arm talent, the other thing is, can the QB operate as one mind with the offense, that’s where QBs get all of their praise, it comes when all of them play well together.
@@bigdap100 Dude, that is so not true. Kmet and Justin literally admitted this today bro. Stop making excuses. Kmet was supposed to see if the DB was zoning or manning the coverage. It was a man, so as they practiced all camp, kmet was supposed to get more depth, which is why he zig-zagged away from the defender! Go look at the current interviews, Justin never said he ran the wrong route! He said Kmet followed the rules there, it was on him. This means he thought he was Mahomes and he thought he had Kelce, which is a joke, neither can sniff Mahomes or Kelce's shoes when it comes to improvisation. Justin didn't let the TE get more depth behind the sticks. He threw the ball right to the defender. It was his mental mistake. Not to mention, he is the one who made the grounding penalty beforehand. You talking about last year is a moot point, we have different receivers now, and we talking about this play that iced the game. The excuses are running thin.
Get off Justin Fields’ NUTS...
All this Josh Nerd ever threw was a McDonalds Bag in the trash after eating 3 Cheeseburgers!!
Josh Lucas is the guy that can talk about it all day and then trips over his feet when you ask him to show you how to do it.
RAS score valued over game tape. This guy and everyone else who put RAS over tape shouldn’t be allowed in a draft room.
I can’t agree with the Tyler Scott play!
Right, Like he’s not open,
Not gonna be until it’s too late,
“NFL open” isn’t the cause with this one cause it looks like that CB is baiting for the throw for the pick,
@@zachmueller1935Ha!! Yeah. That was an anticipation throw we all wanted to see from Justin. But He was open, bottom line. You have to trust your receivers.
@@I.apologist I agree that’s the anticipation throw, But the CB was already breaking toward the ball recognizing the rookies route,
He hit Mooney and Moore and him and kmet weren’t on the same page at the end of the game, (Kmet just runs with zero intensity and turns around like a semi truck.).
He definitely made more of the anticipation throws on Sunday,
I thought this was an example of fields recognizing something wrong, and moving off it to try and make a play, unfortunately by that point the Oline had lost and homeboy was in his face,
@@zachmueller1935 You can't think for a second that the DB is "baiting” you somehow. If you do, you will hesitate. That is what we see a lot from him. When you let the tape play, Scott was NFL open. Fields missed it because of his indecisiveness.
The Kmet play he admitted that Kmet followed the rules there. Justin wanted him to motion through when in a man situation, Kmet was to break away to get better leverage. Justin was impatient.
@@I.apologist you can see Scott not winning,
If fields scrambles outta this no body is talking about it, Lucas Patrick gave up on this so badly that he was in fields lap,
I’m not saying Justin is without blame, but it’s okay for there to be a lot of things wrong with one play, And a lot of it is coming down to scheme and personal management, Moore had been having a day, why didn’t he get a look here? This is the situation you use a #1! Lol
And if the “rule for that is to plant your feet and lose the leverage you have on your guy gets needs to be fired today, Kmet is massive, He boxes that dude out it’s at worst an incompletion, the “rule” cannot be to slam on the brakes and lose leverage,
on that fumble Td return two OlB's came free at fields, thats how bad Getsy been
FIELS HELP HAS SUCKED.
Clearly the play calling sucks yes Justin holds the ball too long he's a young kid who needs to be coached but the offensive play-calling in the defense that has no teeth can't blame this all on Justin
Tyler scott took way too long to get into his break. Ik yall ain't that dumb.
Hoge couldn't even make it 1 play without trying to make excuses for Fields.
TBH, not interested in hearing Josh Lucas breakdown film. There’s others guys that do this that I trust more. I appreciate him making his rounds lately and giving us an insight into the Bears decision making process during the Pace era but it also exposed the critical flaw in the process that led to Trubisky over Mahomes or Watson. Don’t need to see or hear from Josh anymore.
Josh was not the GM
@@TheRichb688no, as inferred in my comment Ryan Pace was, Josh was the Director of Player Personal, key cog in the scouting and draft process. Listen to his interview with 670 The Score that goes over his and the Bears thought process over drafting Trubisky over Mahomes and why Watson wasn’t even on their board.
@@jbaps53 I'd think his opinion would be more valuable after that, since he seems to have realized the mistakes and why they were made.
The dude who drafted Trubisky has absolutely 0 right to break down film. You couldn’t even break down college film Dawg 😂
Imagine what Bagent could do in this offense......missing opportunities for W's
God, everyone is making money off the bears' mistakes and shit play.
Your right on that 1st play with Mooney. He was 2 tenths of a second off and he made the right throw. Too much hate. It's always easy to point out faults. Makes ppl sound important. Because no one will EVER be perfect.
😂This dude couldn’t throw a dish rag in the kitchen sink talking down on Justin Fields...dude kick rocks!!
Ah yes, only NFL QBs can evaluate other NFL QBs...if you need to resort to ad hominem, your argument is weak.
@@TheMattTrakker man this dude trash...What has he proven as a player or as staff...I’ll wait.
Tremaine Edmunds waste of money. Passed on Dre'Mont Jones.
Smith was the best of few successful picks driven by this guy.
The clown who picked Mitch tribuski over Patrick mahomes and deshaun Watson. Ok what's the point?
He's lowkey got responsibility in why we cant get QB rite so his opinions on bears is irrelevant 😂
Why do you waste your time with this guy and why should we give any value to what Loser Lucas says? He's part of the reason the Bears in this dumpster fire today. If he was any good at his "job" he'd have a spot in one of the other 31 NFL organizations.
Trubisky is on his resume. He's toast.
Who should we listen too? What analyst do you prefer that has good insight?
@I.apologist When it comes to evaluating talent at the QB position, not this cat.
@@Ebonysails I get it, his credibility may be worthless, but what about his actual analysis of the game just played? It's a genetic fallacy to dismiss an argument or observation based on someone’s past mistake. I asked, then who? I mean was his analysis wrong?
@I.apologist All of that is absolutely correct. Hard as a fan to not be sore with this cat after hearing the Trubisky Mahomes Watson process fleshed out.
it comes down to one thing this Gm did nothing for the defensive or offensive lines-killing the Bears
this guy doesnt know anything. he wasnt even successful in anything he did. especially evaluating prospects and current players.
Fields is historically bad. Indeed, he's the worst QB to ever hold a position consistently. Did you know that Charlie Frye is 2nd all time on the TO/G list by a QB with more than 25 starts? Fields is not only #1 on the list, he's ahead of second place by nearly a full .5 turnover. Fields turns the ball over about 2.5 times the rate of an average QB. Fields is utter garbage, and we can get a new coaching staff as well, but we absolutely need to move on from Fields and Poles for bringing him back. It's not like he's also productive; he's the losingest, most TO prone QB in history (those aren't over-statements, those are statistical facts)...and he doesn't accumulate yards or points on average. His best season so far, he threw for less than 2,250 yards. I know it's fun to watch him run around, but people need to come to their senses. He really does have a case already as the worst QB of all time that actually plays.
Im done with this trash team