The Ultimate Halo CE Remake: 1) Better lighting than CEA 2) Forge 3) Four-player splitscreen for campaign and multiplayer 4) Conservative changes with new weapons (flamethrower, energy sword, and fuel rod for general use) 5) Maybe dual wielding and hijacking 6) Rocket lock-on 7) Captain Keys gets his pistol back 8) Don't stress yourselves, make all the base game maps availible at launch while adding the later maps as future DLC 9) Consider an ODST DLC where you fight alongside Major Silva and see how Johnson, Stacker, etc. survived (there's your ODST game) 10) VIDMASTERS!!!!!!! 11) Reach style armor purchasing 12) Make future Halo remakes in the same engine and put them together like MCC did to keep the online community together ensuring the longevity of each game 13) INFECTION!!!!!!! 14) Campaign forge please
If done right a CE remake could be truly phenomenal, but faith in 343 is at an all time low. The ONLY way I’d be excited for it is if someone else made it (preferably a studio staffed by a bunch of the original devs and various fans/modders. Instead of “hiring people who hated Halo”). In an idealized version of this I’d want story to be akin to the Dead Space/Resident Evil remakes where it’s mostly faithful aside from fixing issues with the original, incorporating extended universe material that didn’t exist at the time, and tying things in with later lore/events to make the thing feel more cohesive. For gameplay I’d want it to be like Ruby’s Rebalanced where the guy refined the sandbox, backported features/aspects from future games where appropriate, did the same thing with cut content to enhance the sandbox, and made minor alterations to level design/combat encounters to enhance the experience (If you haven’t played that mod you need to. It’s the definitive version of the game). I’d also want mini campaigns based on the different events from the extended material. For the multiplayer I’d want it to be mostly the same aside from adding more content, having Forge with campaign ai/multiplayer bots (two things that should’ve been added LONG AGO), and crossplay because the series definitely needs more players. This is what an idealized version of the game would look like. Unfortunately, we most likely wouldn’t get that since the current people heading Halo are beyond incompetent.
343 should pass the baton, but I don’t think MS will let them. With all of the new studio acquisitions and other projects, it seems like they don’t want to pay someone else to develop Halo. Which is a shame.
This would be fantastic if this is the case. Hopefully they would keep the core mechanics and update it enough for it to be fun but also still cater to the original fanbase. Would not like "Seasons" and this BS call of duty style multiplayer. We play Halo because it was Halo and I would say Halo 3 and MAYBE Halo Reach was the last of that era. If they can bring back that feeling again I will be pleased.
@@BONNIEE1983 I played both. CE Anniversary was criticized for altered lighting effects that made the horror aspects of the game less suspenseful. They also added shapes and symbols to the textures which made it feel clunky and cheap.
Ce had a style that was very much its own, you can see this best on the original Xbox but mcc does it somewhat right (something to do with an old lightning bug) however cea just used the asset from reach for 95% of there stuff so although it means you can go from reach to ce and it would flow well it just doesn’t “feel” like ce. H2A compared to h2 is what most people wanted cea to be
I just miss Bungie's halo ideas lol It could definitely be cool though; a remake of the trilogy could be what 343 needs, and the continuity of the (new) series could really be experimented on to better fit their own narratives and turns they have taken. It could be the force needed to propel the story back on track as well, at times the newer lore feels almost floaty and feels contradicted sometimes (even when it isn't necessarily). It could be neat to see how it goes. I'll always love the originals though, and I hope they are never fully overshadowed; there is something about the old world of halo that fills a different spot. I am hoping to see a difference like White Wolf and Paradox had to do with the World of Darkness cannon; a "new world of darkness" cannon and a "old world of darkness" cannon that sit side by side and each are looked at for ideas alike and each have their own major fan base.
@TheHaloChronicle I hope it does; either way it will certainly make the future games better. Going back to these basics will hopefully make them do more with less in the future. I would certainly be interested in what changes they make out of necessity and to fix their own cannon story lines. I think this is an opportunity 343 can't miss and can't afford to mess up. I can't help but think that after everything going iffy on them that their overlords aren't breathing down their neck wanting to eat them like the rest lol
This is one of those things.. that after seeing C3 Sabertooth's breakdown of all the original storyboards (Have you seen those vids, btw? Smaller, niche channel, but an absolute *MUST watch* ) I can't help but.. be hopeful? .. Be cautious of? .. I don't know. The idea that Halo could bridge to PS, is a dream come true, on account of that entire fresh audience being the only thing that could breathe renewed life into the franchise at this point- but that's just it- The greater audience is, from a personal investment standpoint, ignorant to Halo's deconstruction, so.. they can either capitalize off that ignorance and bring it back full force- or, they'll take advantage of it for one last grab of cash before driving it into the ground. I don't trust 343. I don't trust Microsoft. I don't trust that they've all but cut off the original devs from the process. Reinvigorating and empowering the OG team to see through their original vision? That could toneset the entire industry. But I _don't_ think that's going to happen. Fact was Bungie knew what they wanted, and fought Microsoft to make games _they_ wanted to make. In today's day and age? Bull. *sh•t* if they'd ever dream of seeding ground to these people. Infinite rakes in cash based off bullsh•t, because people can't help themselves but to pay for expression in games- meanwhile the entire franchise degrades and.. what? We're supposed to trust them with that? ... CE's my baby. I'll ride it out. If they hype me they hype me. And I'm playing through it blind. If I like it, then we're going full on into it. If not- I'm sepuku'ing myself. I've had enough of their garbage. All they need, is for the people in charge, to care about *Halo.* Not the success 'Microsoft game studios', and all the BS that comes with that. *GOD.* _WTF._ GIVE ME THE TEAM AND HALF A BILLION DOLLARS- I'LL DO IT. The Forerunners will be human, Halo 2 will be ••••ing *MASSIVE* and it'll be the best thing you've ever seen in your life. Yeah. Rant over. That's all.
I have seen Sabertooths video. It would have been very interesting to see Bungie’s original vision play out in the games. I would love to see that, but I would have also liked to see 343 use their own trilogy of books better. The Forerunner Saga of Books was an amazing read and the games didn’t even scratch the surface of what could have been. They crapped all over The Didact’s story. Could have been so much better.
@@TheHaloChronicle In all fairness, I never read the Forerunner saga outside of the initial chapter or two, partly because I hadn't read the original books, and always planned to start there. What I can say, though, is that I just relistened Hunt The Truth, and ho-ly sh•t, that series is so good. I wish they'd have ran with that, and not had their story rewritten. That's another thing too, everybody [poops, ha] all over Locke (Thank you Act Man, for that) but conceptually? Him and the rest of Osiris are _sick._ The character designs too! I mean wtf? You think I wouldn't have cared to play as him for a game or two? Give me a decently written Locke spinoff if only so his character design doesn't go to waste. ONI spook turned Spartan Hunter with kick-ass, cutting edge team to boot. ONI against the UNSC oldguard? 🤬👹 pisses me off. I guess that's why people write fan fiction-? But, like, surely somebody has script doctored the game, or made a new game pitch using those concepts. Not the 'I made sure to keep all the story beats the same' stuff- I mean, a writing to fully capture what it should have been, _in spirit_
@mikecf1 dude they are going to add Advance movement get over it, and grow up it's not 2001 it is 2024. I want the Halo CE "REMAKE" to have Advance movment/Sprint etc and new Campaign Missions like the establishment Alpha base and defending the the base from the Covenant and maybe take a break from playing as Master Chief & play as Sarge. Johnson in a mission or two. It's a "REMAKE" not a Remaster okay "REMAKES" add things that the originals did not have like new movement mechanics and new Missions to add to the story.
I would disagree that the Halo 1 and 2 anniversary games were only remasters. They had new assets. They were built on a different engine. You could switch back to the old graphics, but the games were rebuilt from the ground up with new everything. Not just upscaling and remastering the existing assets and reusing the same engine.
I do that might apply to Halo 2, but Halo CE was definitely classified as a remaster. It reused assets from Halo CE, Halo 3, And Halo Reach. It wasn’t a full rebuild.
A part of me agrees with you the other would like to see future generations get introduced to it. It’s hard to sell newer generations on Halo based on word of mouth. Remaking the original game could keep Halo alive for many more generations to come.
I do agree it lessens the value of the Xbox. Xbox has been my preferred platform since 2005 and I don’t plan on going anywhere, but I have to admit the platform has seen better days in recent years. There have even been rumors that MS is thinking about scrapping the platform altogether and becoming a publisher just like Sega. I hope those rumors aren’t true. My take on Halo coming to PlayStation is solely about restoring the community and player base.
@@knightsolaire811 I definitely want see the next Halo sooner rather than later too, but if going back and remaking the Older Halos will help them do a better job with Future Halos, I am all for it.
Seeing sprint inevitably come to Combat Evolved is going to destroy what little is left of my soul.
If Sprints included, it would be disappointing.
The Ultimate Halo CE Remake:
1) Better lighting than CEA
2) Forge
3) Four-player splitscreen for campaign and multiplayer
4) Conservative changes with new weapons (flamethrower, energy sword, and fuel rod for general use)
5) Maybe dual wielding and hijacking
6) Rocket lock-on
7) Captain Keys gets his pistol back
8) Don't stress yourselves, make all the base game maps availible at launch while adding the later maps as future DLC
9) Consider an ODST DLC where you fight alongside Major Silva and see how Johnson, Stacker, etc. survived (there's your ODST game)
10) VIDMASTERS!!!!!!!
11) Reach style armor purchasing
12) Make future Halo remakes in the same engine and put them together like MCC did to keep the online community together ensuring the longevity of each game
13) INFECTION!!!!!!!
14) Campaign forge please
@@programmer6394 Hell Yeah to everything on this list.
Good video 👍
@@frost_6836 Thanks for watching, welcome to the channel.
If done right a CE remake could be truly phenomenal, but faith in 343 is at an all time low. The ONLY way I’d be excited for it is if someone else made it (preferably a studio staffed by a bunch of the original devs and various fans/modders. Instead of “hiring people who hated Halo”).
In an idealized version of this I’d want story to be akin to the Dead Space/Resident Evil remakes where it’s mostly faithful aside from fixing issues with the original, incorporating extended universe material that didn’t exist at the time, and tying things in with later lore/events to make the thing feel more cohesive. For gameplay I’d want it to be like Ruby’s Rebalanced where the guy refined the sandbox, backported features/aspects from future games where appropriate, did the same thing with cut content to enhance the sandbox, and made minor alterations to level design/combat encounters to enhance the experience (If you haven’t played that mod you need to. It’s the definitive version of the game). I’d also want mini campaigns based on the different events from the extended material.
For the multiplayer I’d want it to be mostly the same aside from adding more content, having Forge with campaign ai/multiplayer bots (two things that should’ve been added LONG AGO), and crossplay because the series definitely needs more players.
This is what an idealized version of the game would look like. Unfortunately, we most likely wouldn’t get that since the current people heading Halo are beyond incompetent.
343 should pass the baton, but I don’t think MS will let them. With all of the new studio acquisitions and other projects, it seems like they don’t want to pay someone else to develop Halo. Which is a shame.
@@TheHaloChronicle No they shouldn't grow up.
This would be fantastic if this is the case. Hopefully they would keep the core mechanics and update it enough for it to be fun but also still cater to the original fanbase. Would not like "Seasons" and this BS call of duty style multiplayer. We play Halo because it was Halo and I would say Halo 3 and MAYBE Halo Reach was the last of that era. If they can bring back that feeling again I will be pleased.
Halo Reach is my personal favorite. That era was peak for the community. Even if the competitive seen took a step back due to Bloom.
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I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND WHY EVERYONE HATED HALO CEA BUT EVERYONE LOVED GEARS OF WAR ULTIMATE EDITION
@@BONNIEE1983 I played both. CE Anniversary was criticized for altered lighting effects that made the horror aspects of the game less suspenseful. They also added shapes and symbols to the textures which made it feel clunky and cheap.
Ce had a style that was very much its own, you can see this best on the original Xbox but mcc does it somewhat right (something to do with an old lightning bug) however cea just used the asset from reach for 95% of there stuff so although it means you can go from reach to ce and it would flow well it just doesn’t “feel” like ce.
H2A compared to h2 is what most people wanted cea to be
I just miss Bungie's halo ideas lol
It could definitely be cool though; a remake of the trilogy could be what 343 needs, and the continuity of the (new) series could really be experimented on to better fit their own narratives and turns they have taken. It could be the force needed to propel the story back on track as well, at times the newer lore feels almost floaty and feels contradicted sometimes (even when it isn't necessarily). It could be neat to see how it goes. I'll always love the originals though, and I hope they are never fully overshadowed; there is something about the old world of halo that fills a different spot.
I am hoping to see a difference like White Wolf and Paradox had to do with the World of Darkness cannon; a "new world of darkness" cannon and a "old world of darkness" cannon that sit side by side and each are looked at for ideas alike and each have their own major fan base.
Maybe remaking the original trilogy will help them better understand what made the series special and push them to better innovations in future games
@TheHaloChronicle I hope it does; either way it will certainly make the future games better. Going back to these basics will hopefully make them do more with less in the future. I would certainly be interested in what changes they make out of necessity and to fix their own cannon story lines. I think this is an opportunity 343 can't miss and can't afford to mess up. I can't help but think that after everything going iffy on them that their overlords aren't breathing down their neck wanting to eat them like the rest lol
This is one of those things.. that after seeing C3 Sabertooth's breakdown of all the original storyboards (Have you seen those vids, btw? Smaller, niche channel, but an absolute *MUST watch* ) I can't help but.. be hopeful? .. Be cautious of? .. I don't know.
The idea that Halo could bridge to PS, is a dream come true, on account of that entire fresh audience being the only thing that could breathe renewed life into the franchise at this point- but that's just it-
The greater audience is, from a personal investment standpoint, ignorant to Halo's deconstruction, so.. they can either capitalize off that ignorance and bring it back full force- or, they'll take advantage of it for one last grab of cash before driving it into the ground.
I don't trust 343. I don't trust Microsoft. I don't trust that they've all but cut off the original devs from the process.
Reinvigorating and empowering the OG team to see through their original vision? That could toneset the entire industry. But I _don't_ think that's going to happen.
Fact was Bungie knew what they wanted, and fought Microsoft to make games _they_ wanted to make. In today's day and age? Bull. *sh•t* if they'd ever dream of seeding ground to these people.
Infinite rakes in cash based off bullsh•t, because people can't help themselves but to pay for expression in games- meanwhile the entire franchise degrades and.. what? We're supposed to trust them with that?
... CE's my baby. I'll ride it out. If they hype me they hype me. And I'm playing through it blind. If I like it, then we're going full on into it. If not- I'm sepuku'ing myself. I've had enough of their garbage.
All they need, is for the people in charge, to care about *Halo.* Not the success 'Microsoft game studios', and all the BS that comes with that. *GOD.* _WTF._
GIVE ME THE TEAM AND HALF A BILLION DOLLARS- I'LL DO IT. The Forerunners will be human, Halo 2 will be ••••ing *MASSIVE* and it'll be the best thing you've ever seen in your life.
Yeah. Rant over. That's all.
I have seen Sabertooths video. It would have been very interesting to see Bungie’s original vision play out in the games. I would love to see that, but I would have also liked to see 343 use their own trilogy of books better. The Forerunner Saga of Books was an amazing read and the games didn’t even scratch the surface of what could have been. They crapped all over The Didact’s story. Could have been so much better.
@@TheHaloChronicle In all fairness, I never read the Forerunner saga outside of the initial chapter or two, partly because I hadn't read the original books, and always planned to start there.
What I can say, though, is that I just relistened Hunt The Truth, and ho-ly sh•t, that series is so good.
I wish they'd have ran with that, and not had their story rewritten. That's another thing too, everybody [poops, ha] all over Locke (Thank you Act Man, for that) but conceptually? Him and the rest of Osiris are _sick._ The character designs too! I mean wtf? You think I wouldn't have cared to play as him for a game or two?
Give me a decently written Locke spinoff if only so his character design doesn't go to waste. ONI spook turned Spartan Hunter with kick-ass, cutting edge team to boot. ONI against the UNSC oldguard? 🤬👹 pisses me off.
I guess that's why people write fan fiction-? But, like, surely somebody has script doctored the game, or made a new game pitch using those concepts. Not the 'I made sure to keep all the story beats the same' stuff- I mean, a writing to fully capture what it should have been, _in spirit_
Halo CE is a masterpiece. PLEASE respect the original story/gameplay and this could be phenomenal. Less is more.
I completely agree, less is more.
@mikecf1 dude they are going to add Advance movement get over it, and grow up it's not 2001 it is 2024. I want the Halo CE "REMAKE" to have Advance movment/Sprint etc and new Campaign Missions like the establishment Alpha base and defending the the base from the Covenant and maybe take a break from playing as Master Chief & play as Sarge. Johnson in a mission or two. It's a "REMAKE" not a Remaster okay "REMAKES" add things that the originals did not have like new movement mechanics and new Missions to add to the story.
@@TheHaloChronicle you need to get out of what I call Nostalgia Hell and realize it's 2001 anymore and grow up.
Good I have been dying to have Halo move over to the unreal 5 engine, didnt like the feel of the slipspace
Slip Space is just and updated form of BLAM. They have taken that engine as far as it can go. It’s time to try something else.
I would disagree that the Halo 1 and 2 anniversary games were only remasters. They had new assets. They were built on a different engine. You could switch back to the old graphics, but the games were rebuilt from the ground up with new everything. Not just upscaling and remastering the existing assets and reusing the same engine.
Halo CEA had a massive amount of reused assets from Halo 3 and Reach.
I do that might apply to Halo 2, but Halo CE was definitely classified as a remaster. It reused assets from Halo CE, Halo 3, And Halo Reach. It wasn’t a full rebuild.
Why cant they just leave it alone. It was fine. I see it as spitting in real fans faces
A part of me agrees with you the other would like to see future generations get introduced to it. It’s hard to sell newer generations on Halo based on word of mouth. Remaking the original game could keep Halo alive for many more generations to come.
I hate the fact that it might go to PS5. What the hell is the point of Xbox?
I do agree it lessens the value of the Xbox. Xbox has been my preferred platform since 2005 and I don’t plan on going anywhere, but I have to admit the platform has seen better days in recent years. There have even been rumors that MS is thinking about scrapping the platform altogether and becoming a publisher just like Sega. I hope those rumors aren’t true. My take on Halo coming to PlayStation is solely about restoring the community and player base.
@@TheHaloChronicle I’ve heard. Very sad indeed.
bruh why cant they make something new
@@knightsolaire811 I definitely want see the next Halo sooner rather than later too, but if going back and remaking the Older Halos will help them do a better job with Future Halos, I am all for it.