M3 Max 16” MacBook Pro vs M2 Max & M1 Max - HOLY MOLY..
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M1 Max vs M2 Max vs M3 Max - 00:00
Teardown/Internal Differences - 0:50
SSD Speed Test - 1:56
Geekbench 6 CPU - 2:04
Geekbench 6 Metal GPU - 4:03
3DMark Wild Life Gaming - 5:11
Figma Web Design - 5:46
Xcode 15 Programming - 6:32
Logic Pro Music Production - 7:06
Cinebench 2024 CPU - 8:15
Cinebench 2024 Graphics - 10:32
Blender 3D Rendering - 11:07
Lightroom Classic Photo Editing - 12:06
Final Cut Pro Video Editing - 13:05
Battery Life Comparison - 14:44
Is The M3 Max Worth It? - 15:34
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We wanna see how the m3 max performs against the rtx 4090
Windows comparasion please
What about M1 to M3 speakers?????
Please test the two versions of M3 max (14 vs 16 cores), thanks!
Thanks for another fantastic video.
Can you guys do the next 2 videos with M3 Max against RTX 4090 Laptop please.
First video with the same testing as you’ve done here.
And the second video solely benchmarking popular games on both laptops.
Thank you!
I wish for video editing people would test timeline performance and denoising instead of export times. This to me is much more important as I don’t mind leaving a long export running overnight but I do care about how smooth the actual editing experience is
Same also with blender, renders of a little bit longer are no problem but how does it perform when adding better lighting, cycles, more models, more subsurface divisions, etc
True
They did that in the past and it was always very smooth (M1, M2). I think this is why they do not mention it anymore. Of course if you do multitasking and use bigger files or bigger projects you need more RAM and maybe more storage.
8GB: Great for browsing online, streaming movies, messaging with friends and family, editing photos and personal video, casual gaming, and running everyday productivity apps.
16GB: Great if you will be multitasking across a large number of memory-intensive apps, including professional video editing.
24GB or more: Best if you typically work on advanced projects that require enormous files and content libraries.
! That is a great point !
I’m with you. The export speed is all about the media engine. Same media engine for the most part in all of them.
why did they release M2 Max and 6 months later M3 Max.. I feel like I got robbed.
The Geekbench multi core bars don’t match the actual numbers-it looks like the M3 max is double when it’s only from 15k to 20k. I’m sure it was just a mistake!
most of the bar charts in the video look off actually.
Same with all the other videos lol
Such a helpful and detailed video. Kudos to you guys for putting in so much efforts.
It seems that actual remaining battery capacity of the M2 Max test machine needs to be accounted for when comparing it to the M3 Max with its new battery in order to properly evaluate how long each machine will be able to operate on battery - especially if one is considering purchasing an M2 Max.
With this I would try to save some
money and get the m3 max these are massive improvements over the M2 Max, which really was just a stop gap
M2 Max came out only 8 months ago… The battery capacity would not have degraded more than 3% or so at most
@@well7885 true
This 16" M2 Max has very little use. I just checked and it's showing 100% capacity. 👍
@@MaxTechOfficialthanks for adding this bit, what an amazing machine 😅
That's why it's called MaxTech. There should be a counter for how many times the word "Max" is being said in the video.
When max is presenting, it’s "with that"
As always, love how thorough your content is!! Bought the base M1 Macbook Pro two years ago and will be sticking with it for the foreseeable future. But would love to see these same comparisons with the Pro chips instead of the Max chips and using the 14" sizes
👍👍👏👏👏
I just went ahead and bought the base m3 max 14inch. It was a much needed upgrade from my m1. I needed it for Swift, Java and other software development. The 36 gb of ram is really clutch honestly. I’m able to virtualize a bunch of stuff with no slowdown. If you are a dev I highly recommend it.
I stepped up to a 64gb ram 2tb storage 14”. Im a little worried the extra juice from the ram will run out the battery just a little too quickly. We will see.
I’m coming from m1pro. Wording if worth it
@@shalamaaar I’m playing it on my ps5 rn. But I’m tempted
@@zt9233 I only had a m1 air with 8gb so some dev tasks along with pushing an external monitor was not as fast as I was hoping for. So I decided now was the time to upgrade. It all depends on if your current system can handle your workload. I wouldn’t upgrade unless you need it.
@@shalamaaarwow a $3000 machine to play a game at medium settings 1440p barely 50-60 fps lol.
I was really waiting this!! M3 MAX TEST Video, Thank you
Can’t wait for M3 Max 16inch 64gb. It will nice to see how it handle with several layers of effect on video timeline. Previously owned M1 Pro 16inch literally struggle during playback when I had few layers of effect active. Great review overall and very informative content!! 👌🏽
Thanks for the XCode/programming test!
Really I love your channel and I love this comparisons. I have been waiting for this comparison between M1 M2 and M3 max. Thank you so much.
Can we have the 14” vs 16” m3 max comparisons next please.
Would like to know how much my preferred size is gimped
Just watch the size comparisons of the M1 or M2. They are identical
If the 16 inch m3 max fans were almost maxed out in some of the tests I can’t imagine the 14 inch
Thank you for amazing comparison test.
Wow. That was a thorough and comprehensive testing! Thanks for doing this. I am long overdue for an upgrade but I am still hoping for a bigger pro iMac some day.
Thank you for including the timestamps; I went straight to the Blender test since the main feature in the M3 APU is the graphics improvements. Rendering is a significant aspect of 3D modeling and animation, but even more important is the creative process. This is why viewport performance is crucial for 3D graphics designers. The ability to preview the scene (composition) in real-time at a quality level closer to the final product is the holy grail of 3D animation and something that can't be tested with synthetic benchmarks.
In the Final Cut project, the footage is HEVC and the export format is also HEVC? Or is the footage 264 and the export HEVC?
Because I’m nowhere near those times, my exports are 5 minutes for a 5 minute 5k project, and without too many layers.
Thanks for the great review. It will be nice if you compare base 16-inch M1/M2/M3 models.
Exactelly the comparison i’d liked! Good job as usual. Thx a lot! Maybe a gaming test with these models? ;-)
Thank you very much. Can you recommend a protective case for the new MacBook Pro?
Watching your videos for many years now. , I want suggestion I have I pad air 4 can I use tat with desktop to video editing coz Macs are too costly... if I can than how should use desktop with I pad and wat else require
Awesome comparison! new subscriber. Can't wait for the Studio M3 Max to come out!
Great video, interesting comparison.
Coool review guys!!! Just a question about the Logic test. Are you just loading audio tracks, midi tracks with virtual instruments, or audio tracks with audio fx plugins, and if so which ones. Thanks!!!!
It might have been interesting to mention what the memory pressure in these tests and if any test came close to have been impacted by memory limit. Next is to find test that give numbers on the neural engine.
Love this video. Comprehensive tests!
Makes me feel good about my new M3 max :) 😅
Thanks! I was waiting for your thorough test on the M3 Max, and wow, it did not disappoint 😅
Glad you liked it and thanks for the support!
I love the sudden changes in the videos. The more shaky camera gives a good vibe and doesn’t feel overproduced
Thanks a lot for your efforts, one question please: How many hours did the battery last on the M3 Max?
Will you be comparing the 16" binned M3 Max to 16" unbinned M3 Max? Both stock specs.
Hi, I love u channel! Could u make a comparison between the Macbook Pro 14 m1max 10/32 and the Macbook Pro 14 m3max 14/30? Are new Macs worth additional 300$-500$?
After seeing the comparisons, I have decided to get the 2021 M1 max MBP. Coming from a intel mac and seeing the new M3 Macbook just wasn't enough to upgrade to that tier. I just wish the newer models have four USB-c port (two on each side) that will fit my computer needs.
Thank you for the Xcode benchmarks, my 2019 Intel-based MacBook is starting to take so long to compile things so I’m looking into getting an Mx chip. It sucks though because the computer is still lightning fast for all tasks, just Xcode compilation has plummeted
Good information
Can't wait for mine arriving tomorrow, and I will test it out by playing CS2 at full settings through crossover, thanks for your reviews as always. Best
I went for the 16" M3 Pro with 38GB Ram and 2TB SSD. Upgrading from a late 2016 MBP with the screen gate issue so I hope I see some performance gains. 2016 MBP took 3.5 hours to export a 27 minute 1080p iMovie project a few weeks back.
Your new laptop will do it in 1 second
When you do video production tests can you please include Premiere Pro? Many of us do not use FCPX.
8:16 the M3 Max is so blazing fast, it blew the collar off Vadim’s polo t-shirt.
Hi
Wondering is there the same tests run but for the 14” series of M3Max ?
Apologies if I missed it.
Thanks!!
Hey @maxthecofficial! Question:
Since for LOGIC PRO X the amount of cores seems to be more important than the speed they can achieve, GPU being also less important
I was wondering what a comparison look like for
MBP 14 (M3 Max 16 Core Cpu - 40 GPU - 16 Neural) 128 RAM - 2 or 4 TB SSD
vs
Mac Studio (M2 Ultra 24 Core CPU - 60 GPU - 32 Neural Eng) 192 Ram 2 or 4 TB SSD
Are the more Cores help Logic work faster and better? Or is the Processors speed help the computer more?
Computer intended for Professional Studio Orchestral Music making (lots of Virtual Instruments - Plug Ins - CPU savy stuff)
Thanks a million
Hey man love your videos
Great content
Thanks be to MaxTech for getting the equipment and testing for us. Good things do really come to those who wait. Thanks for the tech advise as always
Im still curious whether to buy the M1 Max with 64G Ram 2T or M1 Pro 18G Ram 1T. Any idea ?
Could you start including comparisons of AV1 video export times (I guess available on Davinci Resolve)?
I’d love to see a comparison between same spec M3 Max (40GPU) 14 and 16 inches. M1 Max and M2 Max 14” had massive throttling but looks like they did some magic with the new SoC and its thermals. It would be awesome to measure how much 14-16 differs in sustained clock frequencies under load.
3:45 I almost though my eyes are fooling me. The M3 max is 48% faster but the graph look like it's 2x faster) A but misleading but still great!
What a great test and what an amazing machine!
Could you guys please test the binned M3 Max (14 CPU, 30 GPU cores)? A helpful commenter already gave me the Geekbench and 3D Mark scores, and based on those I feel like that might be the best value unit for heavy video editor workflows. If you get a chance that would be great! Thanks!
Nice video, Now we need the same tests in 14” .What about the fan noise ?
Please make sure the bar charts are correct according to scale, some of them look off.
Everything else was great as usual, love these videos.
I have a 2017 MBP. What do you think the speed difference (rough guess) is in video editing export for iMovie or FCP? Thanks and Love your videos!
Planning to update my base M1 Pro to M3 Max with 64GB RAM and 2TB SSD
I am soooo excited about this, it looks like this laptop is gonna be for a YEARS 🤩
Also I know I am dumb about this but I am still considering it for a gaming since we have GPTK, Whisky etc.
Me too my man, me too 😃
Same spec MacBook I’m considering here. I bought the unbinned M1 Pro with 16gb ram to test the waters switching from windows to Mac and though it’s a great machine, I’m spoiled by the M1 Max Mac Studio with 64gb ram I bought a few months later. Now considering rolling both machines into this MacBook.
Looking forward to seeing 500fps on turtle wow through crossover… 😂
@@GeRoni M2 Max can already do 500 fps on WoW (which is impressive since the RTX 4090 is rated to do 260 max at 2.5K resolution).
In Crossover the M2 Max can do WoW at 200-300 fps although it fluctuates wildly, at least on mine.
@@philscanlan7321 You won't be sorry if you do! Huge upgrade
Are the XCode compilation times comparable to the M3/M2 Air test with 142s/176s respectively? Do you have them for the M3 Pro Chips too, I somehow couldn't find them in your Pro comparison video. Thx
purchased my m2 pro 16 inch a month before the m3 release.. thankfully accepted my return and viewing on my m3 16 inch space black. love it!
For the Logic Pro test, it would be helpful to specify what buffer size you’re using in the program, and what type of tracks you’re instantiating.
Right now it’s just some arbitrary numbers.
Right? Like are these just empty tracks? Are any plug-ins active?
@@MaschinenKopf1998it is clearly not empty tracks, I can run 600 on a i7 in surround with pro tools.
They probably have added heavy virtual instruments and plugins…
@@MaschinenKopf1998 they use new logic benchmark test, just google it
Look up the New Logic Benchmark 2 - We always max out the buffer and set performance to use all the cores it can.
@@MaxTechOfficial What logic version did you have for the test? Were they same on all 3 laptops?
Hi. I have a choice between 14" m1 max 64ram/2tb or 16" m1 max 32ram/1tb(they are both at the same price). I've got m1 14" 16ram/512gb on which i am using Mainstqge3 . It looks like 16ram is not enough for me. It is 5gb project (with many vsts n plugins), and was wondering ,if 64ram will make that much of a difference over the 32ram?
Cheers
I'm wondering if the slower fan speed caused throttling which lowered the cpu scores. They should ramp up the fans to similar speeds and retest that.
please do one for m3 pro vs m2 pro vs m1 pro comparisons, the m3 pro base model vs m3 pro upgraded would be great as well, thank youu
Thanks, great test . Just have to decide wether or not to upgrade 😂
What’s the name of the statistics app that measures the cpu speeds and wattage please ?
And by the way, another great video ! Thanks !
I plan to buy a Macbook Pro soon. If say 4000. is my limit better to go refurb M2 Max 96gb Ram/1T HD or new M3 Max 48gb Ram/1T HD? My usage is: Adobe CC + Cinema 4D. Tnx!
what's the m3 16" spec? which ram version was it?
What do you think of the dual horizontal screen. I noticed it’s only 250 nits brightness. It is better in person. Seems very dim
I like your videos man. I'd suggest doing the AI denoise in Lightroom also.
Great video. It would be amazing if you make on of your gaming videos proven real life performance. I would like to know if now is possible to game windows as when intel chips allows it natively or parallels worth it the upgrade.
Nice video! I'm very tempted to buy this new spaceblack M3 Max 16" (I'm still one of those oldschoolers with a 2019 Intel), but I think I'll wait for the Studio upgrade because the "price per performance" is going to be better for me.
What studio upgrade are you referring to?
@@JustGonzo When they upgrade it to M3 Max/Ultra next year.
The video from the channel I was waiting for. Thank you guys! 🔥
Hi Max, can you also run the Keyshot rendering benchmark?
Nice video. M3 Max chip is great chip indeed, but for me it's also very interesting how unbend M2 Max compares to base M3 Max (14 core CPU and 30 core GPU), as it's direct replacement for that and priced exactly the same. Haven't seen them compared yet.
have you compared base models or all of them? that I would like to see
Great news for 3D rendering. Only issue remaining now is the lack of a Numpad. Blender can simulate the numpad keys but I would prefer to have one. Perhaps in future versions they could offer a full size keyboard option. The problem I see with that though is the speaker might get in the way. Hopefully they find a way to do this in the future. Great vid guys as always.
They unlikely to offer full size keyboard in future... But you can buy an external numpad.
@@DezzKB true but kind of makes things less portable. But not a bad option.
The video editing test are not enough to have a true feel of the performance, maybe you could test the timeline smoothness by looking at the fps while noise reduction apply for exemple. But thank you for all the great work you do !
Great video 🎉 but what is that at 3:16 ?
Need a review of the M3 Max base binned chip!
If you really want to 'stress test' the MPB's, throw some Warp stabilizer on a few clips.
Warp is one of the few effects that runs more on CPU than GPU for the analyzing.
Thank you for this. I was about to buy a Mac Studio M2 Max to upgrade from my i7 2010 IMac. But after watching this, i will definitely wait for an M3 Max Studio because i do mostly use Logic Pro x with many plugins, and M3 Max seems to be the monster. What is your prediction for an M3 Max Studio release?
It was a great mistake for people buying a M2 Max 6 months ago. I would be so upset.
Nice test! Reassuring me that ordering an M3 Max to replace my M1 Max was the right choice. On another note: I like the wallpaper you had on the M2 Max shown in the test. The Edward Hopper style image with the guy with the laptop. Where can one find it?
If I make a real music production test with free challenging plugins for the cpu in the single and multi core, would you use it for your tests?
Thanks for this amazing review! Did you experience any kind of Throttling with the M3 Max? How does it perform having some external monitors and running the tests?
Nice if you need all that power of the M3 Max. But I only need a mid range M3 so got an M3 Pro. It’s great you really need all that power but I wonder on lower everyday tasks would the M3 pro last longer?
When is the M3 Air projected for release?
Amazing! Can you compare the M3 Max in 16" and 14"?
I dont like the idea of those laptops being louder than last gen.
Max can you make a video comparing the binned M3 Max against the none binned 16 inch?
Glad I waited!
What is the name of the tools that he is using to check the temperature and the core utilization/speed?
Please, make a video comparison between M3 max 30 cores and m3 max 40 gpu cores. Or answer which one should I take. Does there 10 extra Gpu cores affect that much in performance?
Thks
How long do we have to wait for the Mac Studio upgrades and the how much will they play with the process?
@@garrusvakarian8709 Probably true, thinking to just go for the M2 instead of waiting, i wish they would put all the computers on the same processor cycle
Please do a thermal/noise review on the big M3 Max
It runs cooler than M1 Max or M2 Max. It is louder than m2 max if you push it to absolute limits
Please make a comparison video on 16 inch MacBook Pro base model
How much time do your tests last? I’m curious how long those batteries had to run with heavy processing
We started shooting this video at 10:13 and finished at 1:30, and they were pretty heavy tests.
Wow !!! This is the one I have been waiting for !!! 👏🏻
I was a bit disappointed because about 2 months ago bought that exact M2 Max from the video …
Now I am finally at peace because the main reason to buy it was for professional video editing… and now I see there is almost no difference 👍🏻
THANK YOU SO MUCH! 👍🏻💪🏻👌🏻
Kinda wanna see the binned M3 maxes performance. If those still keep getting upgrades from M4 and onwards, I might just upgrade my M1 Max to those because those are technically upgrades but at a “cheaper” price. That, and I wanna see how OLED will do in gaming on a MacBook Pro. Pro-motion ghosting and smearing is noticeable on an LCD/mini-led
7:00 I wish you would measure/show also the fan speed and temps when doing these xcode benchmarks and others. As well as test in various performance modes (e.g. in High power and standard)
Great benchmark reviews! What apps do you use to monitor CPU speed, memory usage, temperatures, etc? The widgets on the menu bar look helpful.
TG Pro and iStat Menus 6 :)
Thank you!
Can you make a video comparing the intel vs m3? Would be nice since there are still lots of intel users out there.
Thank you
I’d love to see this against the top spec intel 16 inch they used to have.
They have likely resold that model but still would be interesting to see how far they have come from their last intel notebook.
I wish I could afford to upgrade... Stuck using early 2015 13 inch MacBook
Pro connected to 4K monitor and it's chugging like craaaaaazy.