YMS Watches: American Psycho 1 & 2
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@@kenneth-ik8sdNot all heroes wear capes.
@YMS Please post every YMS Watches like this
Synecdoche when
Please review Dexter! Really want to hear your thoughts on the last 4 seasons compared to the first. You are awesome!
They don't just confuse Bateman with other people, but his coworkers too. That's the joke.
It's why no one believes he killed Paul Allen, since they confused PA with someone else.
Always baffling how Patrick Bateman became a personality character, when his whole point is that he is vapid and forgettable
His obsession with vapid pop music is fairly distinctive (though with the way nostalgia works that joke gets lost on younger viewers).
@@ThreadBombis it?
I mean, isn't the point that bateman regurgitates word-for-word what music critics and reviewers have to say about the pop music he talks about? he doesn't actually like or even care for the music he constantly brings up, he just thinks that's what people feel about music.
is that not applicable to current day, where people listen to whatever's popular that others talk about, what pops up on the spotify homepage, whatever anthony fantano says about whatever album?
obviously not to the extent of bateman, of course I'm not saying people don't care about music or are just psychopaths pretending to fit in. but to say that younger people wouldn't catch this is kind of pretentious and disconnected from reality.
@@morgangunning30but he's hot, rich, has status, is tallish, and gets laid. He's like every red pill dude bros dream person, his vapid and horrible morality is just what people often times attribute to rich people, so it's a thing a lot of people seemingly are willing to give in to for all those materialistic pluses, not a good look for the younger generation lol
@@AnimosityIncarnate - Younger generation? Ha. You think there wasn't a stone-aged Patrugh Caveman comparing clubs with their associates?
@@AnimosityIncarnate "red pill" please keep using words you clearly have no idea how to use.
3:35 I love the fact that Adum is so completely disconnected from heterosexuality that he referred to a married woman as a husband first, then a girlfriend, before finally remembering what a wife is.
Canadian culture diff
@@PeacockandPuppets How so?
@@CynnamonSpyderall Canadians are gay
I came here to say this too 😂
As a Canadian I can confirm
The way American Psycho 2 feels like a Disney Channel Original Movie
It absolutely does.
Wait?
... wait, it isn't?
actually that concept could work so well
That is the most perfect description I’ve ever heard.
I like how just saying "oh yeah Jared Leto" is funny enough on its own like no joke needed
He *is* the joke
He’s the whole circus
@@iCookCrystalMeth everyone knows that's clowns are actually sad
morbius
I know Jared Leto is a joke now and one of the reasons is the fact that he makes terrible decisions on how to play his characters, but the way he played Paul Allen in this movie was outstanding. He manages to make the guy stand out as an unbearable douchebag in an environment of nothing but unbearable douchebags. Nothing Paul Allen says or does is all that different from everyone else, but Leto makes him so insufferably annoying that you totally get why Bateman wants to kill him.
Willem Dafoe did 3 different styles for 3 different takes of him talking to Christian Bale. They ended up using a splice of all 3 takes to give you that true sense of not really knowing what angle Willem had on him. Perfectly casted imo.
That’s genius
I’ve seen this comment like 1000 times anytime I’m watching anything related to American psycho , thank you for the copy and paste dumbass “fact”
just when you think you can't love dafoe any more, you learn some amazing new fact about him
This is my fave piece of film trivia
Wait that's actually so smart.
I can't highly recommend the book enough. Fucking hilarious.
In 1 particular scene in there in a restaurant and I think its Van Patten keeps going on and on about how they should order a Red Snapper Pizza. Patrick has a freak out and yells at him "Nobody likes the fucking pizza here! Its too fucking brittle!!!"
Van Patten goes silent and then disappers from the book for like 50 pages after that. Then he randomly shows up in Patrick's office with a stack of newspaper reviews and demands Patrick apologize about the pizza. It's the most psychotic thing ever
there's some hilarity mixed in with (most likely) some of the most brutal descriptions of torture you've seen in a book.
I thought the book was pretty disgusting. It did have some great moments but overall it just feels gross.
The elevator scene with Tom Cruise and the U2 concert are pretty hilarious
I think the book and the film succeed in different ways: the film toned down a lot of the psychological horror and surrealism of the original, and is way more a black comedy than the book it's based on. the book has a lot of amazing moments that were either cut from the film or just don't work as effectively though a visual medium, but anyone thinking about reading it be warned that it's a lot more serious and slow paced than the adaptation - the first 3rd or so is INSANELY slow. Id say the pace of the book is still fairly slow through the very end but the beginning of the book is genuinely the slowest start to a book that I've ever pushed through - and in glad I did
I like that Patrick talks fondly about Donald Trump several times in the book. That shit came out of nowhere and hit me on the face.
American Psycho 2 has one of the worst scores I've heard in a film.
Literally you.
After all these years, I vividly remembered the music during that car chase scene. The version I watched was a user upload on RUclips, so I thought maybe the user replaced the score to avoid copyright infringement, but oh how appalled I was when I googled the soundtrack.
It looks and sounds like a whimsical Disney Channel movie i love it so much
It sounds like a midi rendition of a Danny Elfman score, just it's always in the wrong context.
I know the film wasn't made to be a sequel to the original but when you have a musical score that terrible to go against a score by fucking John Cale is astounding. They really didn't try to mask it or improve it did they
My favorite thing about American Psycho isn't memes. It's the fact that an expert in typeface and printing did a RUclips video analyzing the business card scene, and pointed out that literally every single one is horribly, hilariously flawed in some way. I just love the fact that every single one of them are a Vice President of something.
Holy shit, these edits are unreal. The fucking cake destroyed me.
Yeah, everyone is a VP, and every card misspelled "acquisitions". Like it's all just one person's card. Because they're interchangeable. It's on purpose :)
As bad as they were, I think Paul Allen's card actually was the best one
YMS has great editors 😊
True to the spirit of the novel as well. Everytime a character is introduced Bateman gives a half paragraph description of what they're wearing, and if you look up the clothes he's describing they're extremely clownish and ridiculous outfits.
@@ciananmeagher9005 Big mistake on my part: trying to listen to the unabridged audiobook. I couldn't get very far before I ragequit from tedium XD
I really like the detail that every time Patrick Bateman plays music for someone, he talks over it by parroting some magazine review. Not his real opinion, of course, but the most _effective_ opinion.
His art analysis has to be something that shows off his cultured and heightened appreciation of music, it's more about status than it is about actually enjoying the music, which is why he just ends up talking over the music. Your comment reminds me of a really great video that is about American Psycho and the philosopher Boudrillard, it goes into more detail about that specific element of his character it was called "American Psycho, Baudrillard and the Postmodern Condition"
Patrick's album reviews in the novel are fucking hilarious
He pioneered the current chat gpt stuffing fad
Another way to interpret the post-shooting spree story in American Psycho is that Patrick Bateman's complete inability to relate to any other human being has him legitimately terrified and confused as to why they're all seemingly ignoring or outright covering up his crimes.
He loses the edges between his own conscienceless brutality and his society.
Patrick wants to “blend in”, but when it’s ironically his deranged serial killer lifestyle that clicks into place instead of the bogus, sophisticated persona he projects? It drives him insane.
The director filmed multiple takes of Dafoe all with a different theme. Some intimidating, some kind, some questioning and then intercut them to add to the uncomfortableness of the scenes with him.
Omg that's amazing
Oh cool!
I just wanted to comment this, one of my favourite details of the film
I did Digital Media... you are basically just saying the Direction was adequate?
Like, make more than a few films and it's like... you didn't budget time or set up creative nuance in each scene? Well, it will look similar to a student film
Sorry, I don't know whyi feel like pointing out it's just what most normal logical conclusions people normally draw in the same situation
The contrast between these two films is insanely funny.
It's got the tonal consistency of a late Trolls sequel
there are zero things in American psycho 2 that are even half as good as aspects from the original
The blood trail missing from the og film is one of many inconsistencies purposefully put in the movie because the movie is from Patrick's perspective and the idea is that his perception of events is... questionable. It is entirely possible that the entire murder spree is wholly within Patrick's head and he just makes it up just to pretend his life has more going on than being a soulless WallStreet business dude.
Yeah, I'm convinced by this being on purpose. Is also unbelievably easy to shot this particular simple scene on the same day since is in the same location
but isn't it from his perspective when he goes outside as well?
that detail makes it conclusive that the murders didn't happen, which ruins the ambiguity in the book
@Em-gj2sg it being from his perspective doesn't make everything we see automatically incorrect. Like above commentors said, it's meant to be ambiguous.
Certain things might have happened and other don't, since Patrick's pov is inherently unstable
@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero true, he could've hallucinated some things and not others
some of the murders could be real and some not
Having repeatedly read the book I'm a little less inclined to agree but yes from the movie standpoint it seems to be that it was all in his head
Genuinely, I would love to see YMS talk about more movies that he appreciates or that he considers to be better and better the more he thinks about them.
some of my favorite videos by him are ones where he gushes about and analyzes films he loves. I get that it's not exactly the content that pulls in the most views for him, but it would be nice to see more
@@morgangunning30 Do you have any more examples like that, where he gushes over films? Any specific reviews, vids?
@@turu3498 his synecdoche: new york series is great if you haven't checked that out! brilliant film and review and he's not even finished with it yet. I can't think of much off the top of my head except quickies of movies he's seen at film festivals and liked
@@turu3498 His top 10 lists are great too
Psychologists aren't forbidden from reporting anything, they just can't legally be compelled. You can lose your license if you share it for fun, but technically they are supposed to report it when they think someone is actively a risk to other people(or section 5150 if they are actively a danger to themselves), so they won't lose their license for reporting the crime(and it's not breaking any laws)
So I can’t tell them I don’t want to live 😔
@@moosesues8887 you can, just have to make it clear you aren't actively making plans.
@@moosesues8887You can, and probably should, but if you’re actively making plans just know that they have an obligation to call emergency services.
@@moosesues8887 even tho I've been/am there, I'm always certain other folks, like you, absolutely deserve to be here + be thriving. I want you to thrive + be able to enjoy the thriving. So that's my sincerity, upfront, bc I saw your comment & wanted to try to lure a smile out with a dark semi joke reply:
"Hey but you have to stay here at least til "The Lion King Faux-Live Reboot Review Part 2...JONNNN" comes out JONNNN..."
but also serious in that I hope the world gives you what you need to stay here & those feelings shift + those burdens lift. I didn't want to be glib. You matter. See you on the far side of The Lion King Faux-Live Reboot Review Part 2...JONNNN".
Bale gets his rightful praise for his legendary performance, but I think Mary Harron's direction and Guinevere Turner's screenplay are sorely overlooked. There's also an extra layer of having two women direct/write this movie considering its subject. I don't think the Oliver Stone/DiCaprio combo would've been as memorable had the studio gone with that duo as intended.
I kinda like the idea that all the events of the story are literally true. They're not metaphors, it's not all in Patrick's head, he really did kill all those people. However, the world he lives in just doesn't care. It accepts wanton violence. Embraces it, even. It's a cutthroat business. It's a dog-eat-dog world. Greed is good. What if those weren't just catchphrases, but literally true? In that kind of world, what's one more murder on the pile?
It's nothing. It's not anything at all. Patrick's despair comes from him realizing that for all his monstrosity, he is utterly ineffectual. He receives no judgement, he receives no praise, people don't even know who he is. Villains often commit violence as an act of rage against the world, but in American Psycho, Patrick's rage is nothing more than a tantrum.
I had a hard time figuring out which parts were too crazy to be real (except for stuff like the exploding car and the cat of course) because everything sounds plausible.
Hiding a corpse and subtly telling the rich asshole to just leave? Yeah, I've heard of people who basically did that.
There was a rich guy in my city who was abusing a very young girl (you know what kind of abuse) and it only came out because her remains were found. Everybody knew, but he was rich, so.
"Nothing more than a tantrum" I love that. That's so well said!
A give-away why I think you are correct is that Bateman loves the movie Texas Chainsaw Massacre. The truly horrifying aspect of that movie is that the family are all aware of what Leatherface is doing. They care for him, he is one of them. So they actually participate in what he's doing. Leatherface gets away with it because they stick together.
Bateman gets away with it, but only because nobody really cares. They do not even care about him.
I really agree with this take. The way everyone mixes up names and mistakes people for each other all the time could be a comment on how samey and vain they all are. They can’t tell anyone apart, they are all the same guy in the same suit and with the same apartment.
I feel mostly the same way. In the scene where Paul Allen’s apartment is all cleaned up the woman there knows what has happened and figures that Bateman is probably the murderer. But it’s better to keep quiet. Just pretend nothing happened so you can avoid dealing with the hard situation and sell the apartment at a higher price
The author of the Novel, Bret Easton Ellis, has written a bunch of stories coming from his Silicon Valley/Rich Californian perspective and a lot of them have similar themes. It often boils down to characters constantly abusing drugs (pharmaceutical and otherwise) to cover up their psychiatric disorders, a sociopathic drive for wealth and social status, and a general listlessness when it comes to finding purpose or meaning.
Theres a bunch of humor regarding Patrick constantly being mistaken for someone else in the book as well, because he and all of his yuppie friends all drive the same cars and wear the same clothes, and have similar meaningless job titles. You could honestly interpret this chain of events as being a fever dream or an actual rampage and the theme would be the same - Patrick's existential torture in the center of a faceless void of wealth and status.
Adam really made the watch along of American Psycho 2 so hilarious. When he played his recorder along with the soundtrack, I couldn’t stop laughing.
The first one is genuinely one of the funniest movies ever made
"You're just not very important to me" always gets a laugh. I mean both the line and the reaction together.
The book is honestly funnier.
In 1 particular scene there in a restaurant and I think its Van Patten keeps going on and on about how they should order a Red Snapper Pizza. Patrick has a freak out and yells at him "Nobody likes the fucking pizza here! Its too fucking brittle!!!"
Van Patten goes silent and then disappers from the book for like 50 pages after that. Then he randomly shows up in Patrick's office with a stack of newspaper reviews and demands Patrick apologize about the pizza. It's the most psychotic thing ever
You OWN a Whitney Houston CD? More than one?
So is the second one, but for completely different reasons.
Bateman is such a good character Glen Howerton has been playing him for 20 years.
newsflash asshole! i’ve been an american psycho the entire goddamn time!
lol exactly i’ve always loved noticing the crossover details between Patrick Bateman and Dennis’ character
BEGONE, VILE MAN
It's not a head in a box it's a woman's head in a freezer.
It all started with a man who had to return some videotapes... The rest is history.
6:22 One thing I noticed immediately about that exchange (several exchanges in this movie for that matter) is that that line works both for the fact that he's an asshole yuppie that doesn't want her to dirty up his glass table, but also as a serial killer who's planning to kill her in a few minutes he doesn't want her to leave any DNA samples.
So this is how Adam reacts to a movie that is a 10/10 for him
His reaction : 😐
He's seen it multiple times
@@olizalzeortolan8322 My Honest Reaction:
@@luigiwiiUU he says in video he hasn't watched it in years
The way I've always understood American psycho 1 was, everyone was too caught up in their own rich extravagant lifestyles to even see the serial killer literally right in front of them [sometimes even telling them straight up that he kills people, they still don't believe it, lol] and Patrick Batemen desperately wants the satisfaction of being this big scary killer, and the fact no one pays attention pisses him off even more. actually pretty funny in a meta sense.
Him being confused for other people is because of the idea that all rich businessmen have the same clothes, hair, lifestyle so he constantly isn't even recognized as himself which also pisses him off I think.
American Psycho 2 is like a bizarre Disney Channel version of, idk, Jennifer's Body
The amount of memes this movie produced is kinda beautiful and insane.
Almost every scene is already a meme or could be a potential meme.
It’s one of those things where you can just watch the entire thing through osmosis with memes. That happened to me but I still laughed my ass off actually watching the movie
You can say the same about the Raimi Spider-Man movies
@@NickJR528 And the Star Wars Prequels. I love the internet for that. Memes are love, memes are life.
Patrick Bateman, the internet’s SECOND poster boy for “Literally Me.”
Same for Ryan Gosling's Drive
hilarious how many people miss the point of the character
Hey babe a new personality just dropped. He just like me fr fr
@@RSG_TheMonster Ryan Gosling in general is Number One.
@@bigsmoothv2 All 1.5 billion internet users miss the point by claiming to be literally Patrick Bateman, when in fact, it is I who is literally him.
I would highly recommend the novel, there's a running theme throughout the book of Patrick never describing the people he is around in his business and personal life by there personality or actual facial details, instead he describes them based entirely on what brand there clothes and accessories are. the brings home the idea that he doesn't see anyone around him as a actual people and instead just concepts of people.
Another clever thing about the book, they are all real items, but, there is a twist, the clothing does not match at all meaning: Bateman is talking out of his ass, or the people dress only because of branding and look really goofy
Notice how Patrick says where he lives before introducing himself.
He's more concerned with showing off his fancy home than with the audience acknowledging him as a person.
The music from American Psycho 2 sounds like royalty-free music they'd use on tiktoks.
I don't think I've ever seen you give a film 10/10 before, and didn't think it would be American Psycho! It was great watching your reactions - I react the same way every time I watch it. One of the funniest movies ever made and Christian Bale is incredible like you said. Thanks for the reminder to rewatch it
He gave the Lighthouse a well deserved 10/10. His review on it was perfect.
I wonder if he would if he would give it a 10/10 if he understood that this was a fantasy, and Patrick killed no one, he was just insane.
@@kostasouleles5884"Well deserved" is debatable... that movie sucks
@@minoru8391You aren't fond of kino, are ye?
@@minoru8391 I loved it but it's not for everyone, I can absolutely see why many people wouldn't like it at all. But I think that even if it doesn't fit your personal taste, you should have to agree that it's pretty flawless in its execution of what it intends to do.
I've always loved the fact that the three people Patrick decided not to kill are the ones that offered him some type of actual love/care.
The way he reacts to Louis hitting on him is like...pure terror. He just can't process it.
I've seen some people interpret it as him not being able to kill anyone that actually loves or appreciates him.
3 people? Who’s the third? I thought it was just the coworker and secretary
@@yourbabytee his fiance. He spares her, and she's probably the only person who speaks to him about feelings.
I love whenever he brings up serial killer trivia. The mask fully slips and, for once, Patrick allows himself to say something purely on the basis that he's interested in the subject matter, i.e. just being himself, and the fact that everyone, even his "friends", looks at him like a weirdo after doing that shows how no one in his life really knows him or understands him. Poor guy.
The novel really goes deeper in to how much of a loser Bateman is and how little respect his friends have for him. The movie is a really good adaptation considering how schizophrenic the source material is(There's pretty much no consistent narrative thread, just a bunch of disconnected vignettes), but I don't think it gets across how sad and empty of a life Patrick lives like the book does
@@ciananmeagher9005You do really see it at the end though, when he's speaking to the guy who tells him that "Bateman couldn't be a mass murderer because-" and then he says aloud what everyone really thinks of him.
I always thought that the Jared Leto character was someone else pretending to be Paul Allen. Everyone is always switching personas for an advantage or confusing people for others. So he just murdered some other coworker. Then that murder will go unnoticed because of they all look the same.
Then I also think that Patrick actually murdered a bunch of people in Paul Allen's appartment. Then Paul's family assumed that Paul was a murderer and covered it up. That's why that lady is trying to shew away Patrick.
Interesting point of view
Between American Psycho and Nightcrawler I really don't know which one I love more. They're just astounding evil character pieces that start from opposite sides, the first from complete success and the second from total failure.
American Psycho is the clear winner to me. Nightcrawler has an amazing performance but the story and plot is serviceable.
American Psycho is hilariously absurd, has a lot more thematic depth and Christian Bale is amazing. My two cents.
I think American Psycho is funnier just because Bale's performance is hilarious in a serious way. Gyllenhal is great in Nightcrawler but the humour is either something I don't get or it's just not there. Still love both movies though.
@@ikahccbr Oh, absolutely, A P is superior objectively, but as for my personal enjoyment? Patrick Bateman is already pretty inhuman from the start of the story, so the fun comes more out of the crazyness that ensues from his antics than from any actual character development. It's all "what will Patrick do now that this has happened?".
With Nightcrawler it's the opposite. Lou Bloom is absolutely evil, but his power is very limited. Even the first few crimes are out of fear for his own life, and he's extremely nervous about being caught. The fun is seeing him find out that there are other degenerates like him that are exploiting suffering in a legal way, and he tries his best to find a way to get in the game, and once in, to get higher and higher because he's always afraid of what would happen if he lost the wobbly footing he found.
They are both amazing movies that have a base concept very similar but that I enjoy for completely different reasons. I really can't tell you which one, if given the choice, I would re-watch first 🤩
@@ekmad Yeah, I wouldn't define Nightcrawler as funny, just fun. It's fun to watch the lows he's willing to go to achieve a stable life. A P is definitely fun in a more funny way. It has one of the most interesting characters ever put to film, but Nightcrawler has an atmosphere that just gives me chills every time I think about it.
Again, no idea which one I would prefer XD
American Psycho is the better of the two if you're looking to analyze a film but Nightcrawler is so much more sinister from a character perspective because Lou is so blatantly scheming and plotting his own success through others suffering while being extremely manipulative it's honestly terrifying at times.
The biggest thing that separates Bateman and Lou is that Bateman tells us his inner thoughts all the time and, for the most part, gladly reveals why he does what he does.
Lou is never truly confronted in a meaningful way, he has easy answers at the ready at all times to answer any question asked of him. We don't really know who he is or why he is this way other then he wants success by any means necessary. He creates a media stranglehold on violence and suffering, suffering he actively aids in perpetuating.
“I am become American Psycho” - Patrick Bateman
It’s you, Patrick! You’re the American Paycho!
I am, Pyshco - The Batemen
My interpretation of the “Paul Allen’s Place” scene was that he had been using it as his place to lure victims but obviously had never been paying any bills there so it eventually had to become vacant, the realtor found his memorabilia & just cleaned it up just to sell the place. She made him bluff about the ad in the paper just to see who he might really be but in fear of her own life she let him go..
Oh my god Bateman does sound exactly like Fuentes I'll never unhear that
A masterpiece and a master piss
My favorite interpretation I’ve heard of American psycho is that he *genuinely* cares about music. He talks about it and no one listens. I think emp lemon has a good video on the subject
I've watched this movie so many times and I really don't believe he killed even one person.
This movie always felt like maladaptive daydreaming: the rich man's movie
Well, that's what the car explosion seems to suggest, among other things. Bateman can't believe his pea-shooter deleted a car.
The director said she wished she had made the ending more clear with how he did kill paul Allen, it's just that everyone one of them is identical so the lawyer believed he was speaking to the real Paul when it was just another guy with a slightly different haircut.
@@God_gundam36 A slightly better haircut?
@@smaakjeksmaybe a slightly worse one
Something about walking into your living room late for your straight-to-DVD movie is hilarious to me
It's really neat to hear Adum talk about a movie he likes for once in one of these videos. And a movie he hates, in the same Video.
Great stuff!
It’s surprising to hear Adum actually likes a movie.
If you like this one he did pretty much the same thing when he compared the original Oldboy to the 2013 Hollywood remake. It’s not a live reaction but more of a comparison between the two of them. The remake is TRASH and Adum loves the original so dearly which only makes his criticisms of the remake more funny
@@bohemiancassidy yeah. I saw that one. Also great. :)
"I simply am not there." ...all of the yuppies have practically the same exact suit, glasses, haircut, business cards, and even the same position (Vice President) at the same firm. Nobody knows who he is, they constantly get his name wrong, and his lawyer at the end doesn't even believe him when he tells him he's Patrick Bateman. All of the bodies at Paul Allen''s place were gone with no explanation, and his lawyer claims that he'd just had lunch with Paul.
Nothing he "does" gets noticed by anyone with a name. He shoots a cop car and it blows up in a huge fireball. He starts to realize that nobody knows who he is. By the end he is having a full-on identity crisis in the most literal sense. He's starting to lose his grip of what's real and what isn't. He isn't afraid of being caught and the repercussions - he flaunts his actions, and near the end he's actively TRYING to get caught.....and realizing he can't. His confession is laughed off as a joke. People hear his name and think the exact same as any other Allen or Smith or Halverson... just another name, just a thought, an idea. You may think you know who he is, you might hear his name, have his card, even know a joke or two about him... but you don't actually know him. Hell, for all we know, he might not even exist. He is simply not there.
Adding to your point about Bateman's personality being all facade with no substance, I don't think the film's violent events are simply hyperbolized, but they are absolutely fantastical. Bateman wants to be noticed, to stand out. He blends in so perfectly with his crowd as to be indistinguishable, so he's imagining all the things he could do to set himself apart, first by literally killing the competition, then by becoming a serial murderer of prostitutes, then by staging a one-man massacre. These are the ways in which Bateman imagines he could find a way out of his empty, pointless rut.
He never does any of them. He just fixates on them, jots them down in his puerile little notebook, and immerses himself in the fantasies to the point of being uncertain of whether or not he's actually done them. He's just waiting, yearning for the day that he actually loses control of himself and one of his drug binges turns into something that will get him the slightest bit of personalized attention from the people he cares about getting attention from, even if it's only for a moment.
"Directed by Morgan Freeman" absolutely killed me lol
40:39 that sound effect has got to literally be the same as the one Soulja Boy uses in Crank That. As soon as I heard that sound, my brain went "YOUUUUU"
I agree that 'how he keeps getting away with it' isn't really the point, but i do think it directly connects with the 'i am not there' aspect that you discuss too. throughout the movie people overtly turn a blind eye to obviously horrific things. the dry cleaner, the couple watching him load a body into the car. I think the idea is that at this level of power and privilege, the world will cover for you because your lies hold up their lies (think of the hospital "i could shoot you and everyone would lie for me" monologue from Sin City).
I think the best representation of this is the real estate agent in paul allen's apartment at the end of the movie. Of course this scene could be interpreted as gaps of logic because of the main character's madness, but it could also be seen as the real estate agent hiding the terrible things because it would impact the future sales of the condo. It's purposely ambiguous, but watch the scene again with that context in mind. With that context, it gets added to the long list of scenes in the movie where a person is ignoring a horrible thing the main character does for their own various reasons.
"I am simply not there" because my actions do not impact the world, the world simply reassembles itself around whatever actions i take.
One of my favorite facts is that Willem DaFoe has said that they filmed his scenes multiple times, where he knew Patrick was the killer, where he treated him as a suspect but wasn’t sure, and where he didn’t suspect Patrick at all but was obligated to interview him anyway. Then when editing, they cut these scenes together to show even Patrick wasnt sure what exactly the detective was thinking
I hope someone, somewhere is able to recapture the intoxicating mix of drama and hilarity of American Psycho, but I’m not holding out hope.
Vampire's Kiss with Nicholas Cage isn't by any stretch of the imagination good, but it is weirdly compelling to watch, and it has a similar concept to American Psycho-- though AP leaves it up in the air exactly what was going on, and VK is a lot more obvious what's happening. Might be worth a watch if you like AP, I certainly enjoyed both(albiet for different reasons).
Ari Aster did with 'Beau is Afraid', I'd argue.
You know what's funny? The adaptation of Rules of Attraction, another novel by Bret Easton Ellis , which takes place in the same universe as American Psycho, was released the same year. Patrick Bateman was supposed to be a character in it but they cut his scenes. So, unlike All American Girl, this movie actually had a reason to be connected to American Psycho, and yet it wasn't.
Also, i find it weird how American Psycho 2 has a scene with Shatner's character taking Diazepam, considering that Shatner had found his wife dead with high amounts of Diazepam in her blood 3 years prior.
Rules of Attraction came out in 2002. They actually shot scenes with Patrick Bateman (played by Casper Van Dien) but they were cut.
@@fionnmurray2368 That's...literally what i just said.
@@diehard7517 no, American Psycho came out in 2000
@@fionnmurray2368 I was talking about the sequel.
@@diehard7517 my bad, I misread
I interpreted the ending being that Patrick realized that he, as a serial killer, was more humane than his corporate colleagues. His coworkers simply could not care at all that someone they worked with vanished. Patrick fixated on Paul Allen's above-and-beyond business card, but his coworkers forgot that Paul Allen existed the minute he disappeared. Paul Allen's death was also kept under wraps because it would have tanked the value of his apartment, given that the realtor tells Patrick to leave when he asks if this is Paul Allen's apartment. The film's ending includes the coworkers looking at the TV to watch Ronald Reagan, the current president, as Patrick is still soaking in the apathy of his coworkers, implying to me that the whole movie's message was that Reaganism was a bigger societal plague than serial killers.
I think he was experiencing shame and not guilt. Shame is being upset with how people are seeing you, vs guilt is inward reflection with regret involving self acknowledgement of the problem.
*Severed head appears in fridge
Adam: “Lol nice.”
My interpretation is that it is still all a metaphor, but in universe it all happened. I think the metaphor is that the most powerful people can do anything and get away with it like it never happened. They are all just the same empty, meaningless vessels. That's why he "isn't there". This is also supported by the fact that through the whole movie, nobody does actual work. They are just there for status.
But that's why it was all covered up. He killed people who basically didn't matter. His confession meant nothing because this is the status quo.
It’s nice seeing Adum comment on movies he genuinely loves… followed by movies he finds hilarious for unintended reasons
They made a movie about Scoot?
Bonus joke: imagine what will annoy Scoot more, being compared to Patrick Bateman or being called American.
he is american, america is the whole continent
Berta is essentially America LITE
All Bertans are pseudo-Americans
@@bigbrothertw they had a whole argument about it in the Goofy Movie video
@@jordanjoestar-turniptruck I FUVKING KNOW THATS THE FUXKING JOKE
@@bigbrothertw Canadians are closeted americans i swear
William Shatner is actually generally good across the six Star Trek films with the original cast, Wrath of Khan naturally being his high point
As Kirk he is in general really good, i mean the budget for the show in for the time makes everything hilarious but you have to look past that, In the Motion Picture he is great.
People who worked on production and with Bale have said that he’s literally capable of sweating on demand. Which is something I’ve genuinely never heard about anyone before.
idk if this is where the director was going but according to psychoanalysis the only way a psycopath can "feel" guilt is by paranoid hallucinations of punishment
Misidentification is a theme throughout. People use the wrong names for other people all the time. He even misidentifies the serial killer “head on a stick” quote (Ed Kemper said that, not Ed Gein. Gein was the inspiration for Texas Chainsaw).
The entire point if Patrick Bateman is how he's miles up his own ass, to a degree that he's unrelatable, and how alien everyone else seems through his eyes. From his point of view, he feels contantly hounded by powers that seek to end him, and when he finally stops seeing himself as untouchable and learns a TINY bit of regret, he realizes how unseen and unimportant he really is. And it's what he fears most.
I remember I watched this movie WAAAAAAAAAY back then because of your horror film recomendations for Halloween, I watched it a bunch of times after that.
It was kinda surreal seeing this movie make such a come back as a cult classic because of memes.
American Psycho (the book and the movie) covers very similar thematic ground to Being There (the book and the movie), even though they're superficially a lot different.
Also important to keep in mign that Bret Easton Ellis deliberately wrote the original novel without any murders at all, only the surface-level conversations between characters, the album reviews, etc., and then wrote the murder sequences AFTERWARD. The dishotomy between interior and exterior in the film is so fundamental that it goes right back to the originall writing process of the novel.
Still amazing how American Psycho 2 much like Son of the Mask are actual official bootlegs
The real sequel pairing is the rules of attraction and American psycho
I think at the ending when he goes to Paul Allens place, and the closet is empty, its because the realiter who is trying to sell the house has cleaned up the mess. Theres paint cans and brushes. Her greed has overtaken the value of life. When every character is confronted with humanity in this film, they all reject it
In the book, there are candles there masking a smell and the realtor is already showing the place to a couple. The only thing I would change about the movie is the actual setting of Allen's apartment. In the books its like a 20 million dollar, multi story penthouse with a big sprial staircase in the middle, etc etc. It really drives home the fact that it would be a huge, huge loss to the real estate company if they couldn't sell this extravagant place at full price.
There is a nice analysis connecting the movie to Baudrillard and postmodernism, that the world in which Bateman lives in is precisely a world in which he doesn't exist. Everything is just for show, so nobody can notice that a homicidal maniac exists among them.
The fact that Fuentes does the discount Bateman vibe is such a dggL
I didn't know Patrick Bateman was uncut.
A lot of the music in American Psycho 2 feels like soundtrack to the original Fable in the whimsical scenes early on. It just feels so tonally dissonant...
I think Mika Kunis reached her apex mountain with “Forgetting Sarah Marshall,” and she’s never really topped that.
super entertaining to watch! thank you so much for your work! You help me to find something that gives me joy haha
Saw your notes on this on Pateron. Happy this is here now!
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:24 American Psycho (2000)
14:00 American Psycho 2 (2002)
41:32 Patreon Credits
Thanks. Maybe the horse bastard could add them to this own videos one day
i think the circus music in american psycho 2 is actually a metaphor for life
Idk what's going through your mind Adum but it feels like you're back to the way you use to do videos, f*cking luv everything you do, man ❤
To add onto the ending, idk if it was the director or the writer of the novel, but they interpreted the first film’s ending as real, and what actually happened is after Patrick’s call to his lawyer, they scrambled to Paul Allen’s place to clean it, find an alibi, and gaslight Patrick into believing none of it happened.
At Paul’s place when the listing woman is there, she recognizes Patrick and is able to get him to leave
You guys rock, 🤘 I love to think that patrick bateman is batman, he just took the e off his last name.
Bruce knew if he dropped a letter he’d save $900 on copyright for merch
Patrick: *Do you like Phil Collins?*
Canadians in Nova Scotia: *Baaaaam!*
Peanut butter and jaaaaaaaaaaaaam
@@LivingDeadbeat *Green eggs n haaaaaam!*
I felt since my first watching of American Psycho that i understood the ending and the film overall, but your interpretation of the film being more related to american consumerism and the need to keep reaching a higher status than those around you makes so much sense i am now gonna adopt it as my own.
The message American Psycho is going for is that we all live in a world where everyone is constantly being mistaken for one another. Everyone only cares about themselves and their image. We then follow and see how a psychopath is treated and how a psychopath acts in such a world. All these fake people are just the same, it’s a fantastic concept and it’s executed really well.
Emphasis on executed
I like the movie because you can’t tell when he starts or if he is has been imagining everything the whole time. You’re just slowly absorbed into the insanity with Patrick and drawing the line is impossible.
Well done. Would have been a fun Adum and Pals, too.
I love that this movie was shot in Toronto too because it rly evokes what this city has become.
How?
You can tell a film sequel is truly something 'special' when the portion dedicated to the first film is only a third of the Let's Watch double-feature.
I heard William Dafoe did three takes. One that he knew Patrick Bateman was the killer, one that he suspected and one that he didn't have a clue. With the power of editing you also get confused if the cop knows what's going on.
We're trying to build a lot of tension in this scene so be sure to use music from the Sims 3
always an absolute joy to listen to Adams magnificent flute skills.
i think the score in the sequel was trying to go for a "murder,she wrote" thing which would make sense if the music was written for its original script
I legit lost it when he shoots that old lady, we hear a mario coin noise, then it cuts to Adam grinning with glee at the scene like its the best thing he's seen all week. Not judging his reaction, but it all flowed so perfectly I lost composure.
I’m so happy I was there on Twitch to witness Adum’s legendary recording of the pixelated/black and white explanation. Peak comedy
“It’s stainless steel.”
Dude, 99% of metal cutlery is stainless steel.
I remember her therapist as the guy who went nuts in hypercube. He was much better in that movie.
I watched American Psycho for the first time on a Halloween and I loved the movie. I was sitting there thinking about it and what it all meant. It had been a while since a movie made me think about it like that afterwards. It made me express emotion and interest and I just love the movie for all of what it does.
Christian Bale in the business card scene is some of the best acting I've ever seen before. The amount of tension and barely suppressed rage he's able to convey with how he delivers the voice over and his shaky choked back dialogue in the actual scene to the other characters as well as his body language is superb. Nobody could have done it better
I heard something about how everyone is all the same and interchangeable which might be the point. No one really cares enough for the other so of course they wouldn't really know each other. All in their individual worlds. They don't want the value of the apartment complex to lower so they had it all cleaned up to maintain the value. To me that realtor lady always came off more insane than Patrick. Everyone else? "Of course a successful business man would never be a cause of these horrors, soo hilarious."
Somebody made a fanedit of this movie merged with Sam Ramis Spiderman and its as surreal as it is hilarious