Nice video. Thank you for the early review. I appreciate you mentioning the issue with the battery power supply cable (running front to back on the OG Crystal) being too short for big heads like mine. Hopefully Pimax will take note going forward. I really hope you follow up this early review with a second review after you have more time with the Light.
The top strap power cable should never have been designed that. It makes the adjustable top strap ineffective. Poor design and some have had the cable start to seperate from the main housing.
Hi! Yes, the headband of the original crystal is not the best solution, but I only heard it from a few users, but yes, it is a thing. For the next weeks, the Crystal light will be my daily HMD, so stay tuned.
hahahah....yes, it was such a funny thing when the Pimax People, gave me the Crystal light in the plastic bag....so I thought, I should do a quick unbagging :D
Great job on the video. I have the Pimax Crystal, Pre-ordered it, and I am still waiting on the large FOV lenses 11 months later. I am pretty pissed off about this, but it still wouldn't be right if Pimax didn't have any pissed off customers, it seems to be part of there trait. Anyhow If only I new this would be coming out I probably would have gotten the light rather then the original cause I really am not crazy about the weight.
This was made as it was an easy release after all the feedback on the Crystal. And of course pimax Grossly underestimated how long the 12k will take. So standard pimax issue.
1. can you test it with DCS please, particurarly compared to DCS in Q3, key factors: visual clarity vs smoothness of the play with same hardware (I am bit afraid of higher res vs fps) 2. are controllers required for setup or flight sims? 3. can you order DMAS skipping basic ones? 4. how was hand tracking working wirh Pimax Crystal? would I lose a lot not having it in the Light? 5. is eye tracking missing in practice? 6. fixed vs dynamic foveated rendering, can you feel it with quality and/or fps? danke im Voraus:)
Hi! Thx for your request. I will try to answer the questions. 1.) I don't play DCS, but a friend of mine, is the DCS King :D he can tell you how much better the Crystal (OG) is compared to the Q3. Just look him up @tallymouse 2.) No, you should be good without controllers --> Crystal Sim Edition without controllers. 3.) I don't get the question, the Dmas you can order and install to the crystal, it depends how picky you with sound, if you have good in ear, this would be also a solution. For me the DMAS is fine. 4.) @tallymouse --> he just released a video with the handtracking module, I never tried it. 5.) For DCS YES, you can benefit in performance a lot. 6.) @Omniwhatever --> He created many videos showing the benefit of DFR, I think the support is quite good, but not for many games. Hopefully this will change. If you have more question, just let me know. Bitte gerne :D
@@liebesmaennchen Hi, many thanks for your answer! From many corners I can hear Pimax Crystal Light beats Q3 in terms of visual clarity, so I guess it is a matter of time for me ;) I suppose however Incan really miss the hand (and eye) tracking. I have watched the tallymouse’s video on ultraleap accessory for Pimax and it actually seems to do the job for modern jets… Much the same probably with foveated rendering. I’d love to have an option to pay more to get the features as they did at the beginning with local dimming. As far as DMAS is concerned, I meant to be able to order them with googles purchase instead of SMAS sold by default, not to double the headphones. If I understand correctly, you cannot skip SMAS. You have to get them with googles and DMAS can be bought addditionaly, not instead of SMAS. However the case is you, having replaced them with DMAS, you cannot use SMAS any other way making it just an environmental trash… Vielen Dank für deine ausführliche Klärungen sowohl in Video als auch in deiner Antwort oben 👍
Great video and very informative, as always! Glad you weighed the two HMDs with the DMAS and accessories so folks have an actual understanding of real world use. Hope that you get the lighthouse figured out and a response from the developers soon! If the inside out tracking is like the Crystal then that’s more than good for casual PCVR. Good first impressions. Cheers!
Thanks Mate! Right now I tried my standard crystal and the LH Faceplate is working. I will make a video as soon as I get a solution. Hopefully, it is only a problem on my side.
Slightly concerning with those who have bought Crystal Light and base stations faceplate (and no controllers). They've already been asking for payment, glad I waited for reviews. See if others have this issue.
Ist das FOV der Light merklich größer als von der Reverb G2? Wenn ich im SimRacing im Auto sitzend mit der G2 den linken Spiegel oder geschweige denn das linke Fenster nicht sehen kann beim geradeaus gucken, würde ich es dann mit der Crystal Light sehen? Oder wenigstens den linken Spiegel?
Ja, man merkt den Unterschied schon. Wirklich spürbar ist es dann, wenn du eine zeitlang in der Crystal verbringst und dann zur G2 wechselst. Es ist aber wesentlich spürbar, wie viel besser das Bild der Crystal aussieht
Ajj schönes Video :) Ich finde es auch einfach gut, das du einfach zeigst und nicht den ganzen Quatsch drum rum machst. Und es ist ausführlich lange... nicht so ein TikTok 3 Minuten Video XD
Ach danke Foxiy, du weißt ja, für dich gibt es immer Eis, aber du hast ja NIE Zeit :D Hast du den die Crystal schon ausprobiert? Die VRChat Truppe die in Dortmund war, die hatten ja gefühlt alle eine Crystal.
@@liebesmaennchen Leider noch nicht und ne ne von unserer Truppe hat nur einer eine Crystal ^^ Und es wird irgendwann hoffentlich wriklich klappen, das ich ein Eis von dir bekomme XD Aber dann eins mit Affen Geschmack XP
@@karifuchs4419 ah ok, aber zumindest einer :D der war sehr begeistert und hatte ja eine Frankenstein Crystal :D. Die Türen stehen offen und die Eismaschine ist bereit.. ❤
My question regarding the controlers is that, if you don't need controllers for sims then how do you navigate the steam VR home from inside the headset?
I have a crystal the unfortunately has some build quality issues I am going to send it back I have the opportunity for exchanging for money back a new crystal or a crystal light. I use this for sim racing I was wondering what your choice would be
Hi! If you don't need eye tracking, I would go with the crystal light. If you want to play DSC, you can use Eyetracking for better performance. With Racing, you don't need eye tracking at all, because there is no support.
Ein klasse Vergleich von dir, die Software scheint auch recht einfach bedienen zu sein. Ich hoffe es dauert nicht mehr ganz so lange, bis das Headset ankommt.
@@liebesmaennchen Mein Hauptheadset ist zurzeit die Quest 3. An DP Headsets habe ich noch Pico3 Link und die HP reverb G2. Die beiden kann ich dann mit der Pimax Light ersetzen. Q3 und Pimax als Kombi ist perfekt für die nächste Zeit.
What about the battery ? Do you need to have the battery charged up on normal crystal even if you will only do pcvr and not standalone, like even for long hours playing sim racing ?
With the normal Crystal, you can use an USB-Hub with Power supply, so the Battery is charged, and you can play for long sessions. A friend of mine, he plays VRchat for more than 12h
Hello again, been a month since you put out this video, did you ever find out from Pimax if they will be making a FOC for the Crystal Light? The extra length of the FOC could come in handy since the stock cable is 4.7 meters long? (kind of short) I did order a PCL on May 31, not expecting it until the end of August (according to their delivery chart). To say I'm anxious for this thing is a serious understatement! LOL
@@liebesmaennchen Hello. Yes I did see your extension cable video (Thank you), I do have extension cables already, the DP one is rated at 8k 60hz (I think), was expensive and is thick), it's only a 6 foot cable (all I need to get to the back of my sim rig for room scale VR). When I get my PCL I will connect it straight to the PC to make sure all is working as intended, once all works well, then I will try connecting it to the extension cables and keep my fingers crossed! LOL Thank you for the reply.
Yes Standard Crystal was brain dead to use an elastic top strap with an non adjustable battery strap. Someone really had. I sense thinking that is a good idea.
you are kind of right, because I don't know many users who had problems, but I know some, so yeah, the crystal light is way better in terms of headband.
Great video, is there an easy way to access the windows desktop from within the headset? (without using controllers?) If you can double tap for passthrough, maybe they can add an option to give you a choice.
Hi! Sure, I have Vail and Contractors on steam. So, I realized that Vail doesn't support bots, so if you want to participate in the test, it would be cool. Just reach out to me and I will setup a GunGame Match.
How is the comfort to lets say a Valve Index or Reverb G2 (I don't have the OG Crystal to compare to), comfortable enough to have on your head for a couple hours or very front heavy? Thank you.
I think also the original Crystal is very comfortable, I got the G2, also Index...well kind of every HMD, compared to the quest 3, the comfort is MUCH better. So for me, long sessions are no problem. You should consider buying the Apache comfort or top Strap.
@@liebesmaennchen Thank you, I'm still on the fence regarding Crystal Light, can't say I trust Pimax much due to their past, taking a wait and see approach I think. I do however love the specs especially being a older (65) racing and flight sim guy. Again, thank you for your input to my question. :)
@@liebesmaennchen Is the FOV of the Crystal /Light noticeable bigger than on Reverb G2? In SimRacing I cant see left Window when sitting in Car. Can I see left Window or at least the left mirror?
Thank you. Yes it is, you can buy the LH faceplate. You can also see some testing on my channel. If you want to know more, just let me know. BTW. what gpu and what Hmd are you using right now?
I am excited to get mine. The Light House Face Plate you have you said you had dropped it a couple times. What I would of done was uninstall the Pimax Play Software you had for the Original Crystal headset and after you completely removed it from your system install the new Crystal Light Pimax Play software. Maybe then it would work...? But, I heard from others it works fine. We will see when I get mine. I appreciate the video. Hopefully, you figure it out and get it working.
I just switched back to my normal crystal and the .19 Software which is compatible with light and standard crystal. My LH Faceplate is working flawlessly with the normal crystal. The cracks are only on the plastic side. So who told you, that the LH Plate is working fine with the light? I would love to have this problem just on my side, because it would be a bummer, if everyone had it.
@liebesmaennchen Sebastian from MRTV has a review video posted, and he said it works great. But, there is a known issue with the LH face plate. Something about the antennas being too close together. Ender's VRcade has a video posted about it.
@@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe I may be mistaken, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that only an issue with the normal Crystal because of cables related to the onboard wireless connectivity (due to standalone mode)? Presumably it wouldn't be an issue on the Light, if that was the case
@TenWingThread Yeah, there seemed to be some kind of interference with the wifi, but Crystal Light doesn't have that, so it should be much better. Hopefully, you get this problem solved. Because I ordered mine with the Light House Face Plate. I want my Tracking to be good.
ahhhhhhhhhhhh :D well, I tried footage with the old crystal using my GoPro 12, my EOS R6 and my Fairphone 5. The thing is, TTL is such a delicate thing, you could look at Sebastians Video (MRTV) But, if you would like to see something special, I can record it, but I don't think I would do it public.
Hoi Reinhard, danke für das tolle Video. Kannst du bitte uns sagen, wie viel ist das Gewicht ohne DMAS und ohne Strap von oben? Vielen Dank im Voraus. Grüsse!
Vielen Dank, ich war an dem Abend mit Pimax auf ein Bier und muss sagen, dass die wirklich super cool sind. Die Brille einfach im Handgepäck aufzuteilen, war schon ein großes Entgegenkommen.
@@liebesmaennchen thanks for the reply. Yes, that was my first disappointment when I got the q3 but honestly I'm quite happy with it. I'm getting great visuals in msfs2020 using virtual desktop. Do you feel the crystal performs better than the Q3? Sometimes I get some stutters that come from the virtual desktop. As soon as I reload the app they are gone. That's what I'm trying to improve with the crystal light. What do you think about performance?
@@theegodelpozo Yes, Crystal performs better because there is no encoding necessary. I tried some games with VD and the Godlike mode and most of the games are not running that good and you have half of the pixels. But don't get me wrong, I really like the quest 3, we have 5 in our office and I'm working on a Quest 3 PCVR Wireless Video right now.
@@liebesmaennchen Let's hope they will solve the problem of the Crystal not turning off. A $1500/2000 headset that turns off two time of 10 attempts is ridiculous
Thanks for finally showing us the actual weight. I'd love to know how much it weighs without any head strap, DMAS, etc. I'd really appreciate if you are willing to do this, that would help me a lot in my decision because for sim racing with a motion platform my main concern is how front heavy it is. Thanks!
@@liebesmaennchen Thank you so much for doing this! But yeah, it worries me that it might carry too much inertia and shake a bit too much with a motion rig 😞. Cheers!
@@arminglf Could be the case, but I don't think so when you are using the Top Strap, you can really tighten the HMD, so there is only one way to find out....
@@liebesmaennchen Thanks again, yes and now I remembered about the trial program from Pimax so I might give it a go and if I don't like it I can return it.
Did you get lighthouse tracking working? On the edge of picking one up, but really need lighthouse tracking, so I can pair my index controllers with the headset.
Seriously using a 12v cable from the old KS headsets? Terrible choice. Especially since this gets rid of Fiber Optic cable option. I am wondering if they used usb2 cable as first gen pimax headsets had usb-c expansion ports connected to a usb2 cable.
Hi, great video, congratulations. Did you have checked whether the crystal light also has the same switching off problems as the old crystal? You practically don't know how to turn it off and charge it. It's all random. After the latest firmware you can turn it off by making it go into charging mode (yellow LED) 2 times out of 10 on average
Hi! Thank you! Well, there is no "shut down" in the Pimax play anymore, and you don't need to charge it. The problem with the normal Crystal is mostly due the windows power settings.
Not a single usb-c port on the headset? I think original Crystal had a hidden port under the gasket, that one is gone too? How about headphone jack? You also said original hub with FOC cable gave infinite power but in my experience it's 6h max and then you need to switch batteries.
I can use the normal crystal forever, but like I said in the video, this is not the case with every user. No, there is no port next to the DP Port anymore
Well, it depends in what way you want to use VR. Could you be more specific, but if you just want a yes or no, than YES! It is MUCH better than the Q3.
It is too bad they scrapped having a usb-c port for things like the HT module. Very shortsighted. Lenses should have maintained replaceable as this model more likely to be in a VR XP centers. Also too bad they made it incapable of using a wireless module.
It was clear from the beginning, that 60G will not work with the crystal light, but yeah, would be nice to have some extras like face or handtracking modul. To be fair, it is a very nice solution, to change from the G2
@@somerandomperson8282 I buy plenty of expensive tech on AliExpress and don't get charged tax usually. So this maybe could have been done differently by Pimax.
@@somerandomperson8282 I buy plenty of expensive tech from the biggest Chinese marketplace and almost never get charged tax. Maybe Pimax could have done things better there.
@@somerandomperson8282 I buy plenty of expensive tech from the biggest marketplace abroad and almost never get charged tax. Maybe Pimax could have done things better there.
@@somerandomperson8282 I buy plenty of expensive tech from abroad and almost never get charged extra. Maybe Pimax could have done something better there.
in deinem Garten ist ein Reiher am Teich.... 😆 Die Auflösung die du da hast ist ja schon echt krass... aber auch komisch warum das so eine ungrade Auflösung ist mit 4312x5100 wenn doch die Brille selber 2880x2880 hat. Hätte da eher an 3840x3840 gedacht
Warte kurz, ich bringe dir gleich ein Brötchen und ein Erfrischungsgetränk rauf. Die Auflösung ist Faktor 1 in Pimax Play und 100% in STeam VR. Die Auflösungen sind immer etwas komisch :D
Good Video, i wonder what you said about the Big FOV Lenses. You said you are OK with them, while Sebastian made a Video and said these Lenses are terrible an unusable. When i came Back from the Roadshow i was considering to buy a Crystal light, but now i decided to stay with my standard Crystal and wait for the Wireless Module. But i reccomend the Crystal Light for all VR Enthusiasts who will change to a better VR Headset!
VR is very subjective, and also the lenses are NOT plug and play. Omniwhatever just released a very good video about the bigFoV Lenses, this is pretty much the same experience and sums it up very good. Often the problem, that people don't take their time to test things, and for the big fov, you should take your time.
hi,now I know for sure that the cystal light does not have a 60 hz mode and yet pimax is still advertising and selling the device with that feature, how terrible of them ! In the end I will save 1000 € glad that I did not preorder ! Thanks for the video
It's better to buy Quest 3 than to buy this. Selling it at such a high price without the XR-2 chip is a scam. And since it is manufactured in China, quality and after-sales service are also serious problems.
Did you try out the crystal? The picture quality is much better than the quest 3, 80% more pixel and nativ because of the DP. I love the quest, I own 2 and I got 3 in the office, but for PCVR, the crystal is much better in my opinion
wtf lighthouse faceplate not working ??????????????????? scam ? i pre ordered pimax crystal light with this light house faceplate, this is not reassuring me at all.
Well, for now, this is only on my side, I don't know what about other users, I wouldn't go into panic mode, let's wait what the developers has to say and what other users will test.
@@liebesmaennchen I wish I could say that "ok you're right, we shouldn't panic yet" BUT I ALSO PREORDERED THE VERSION WITHOUT THE CONTROLLER AND I'M PANICKING
Nice video. Thank you for the early review. I appreciate you mentioning the issue with the battery power supply cable (running front to back on the OG Crystal) being too short for big heads like mine. Hopefully Pimax will take note going forward.
I really hope you follow up this early review with a second review after you have more time with the Light.
The top strap power cable should never have been designed that. It makes the adjustable top strap ineffective. Poor design and some have had the cable start to seperate from the main housing.
Hi! Yes, the headband of the original crystal is not the best solution, but I only heard it from a few users, but yes, it is a thing. For the next weeks, the Crystal light will be my daily HMD, so stay tuned.
brillant, decent video at last showing Crystal Light. Liked the unboxing video, best! thank you
hahahah....yes, it was such a funny thing when the Pimax People, gave me the Crystal light in the plastic bag....so I thought, I should do a quick unbagging :D
Great job on the video. I have the Pimax Crystal, Pre-ordered it, and I am still waiting on the large FOV lenses 11 months later. I am pretty pissed off about this, but it still wouldn't be right if Pimax didn't have any pissed off customers, it seems to be part of there trait. Anyhow If only I new this would be coming out I probably would have gotten the light rather then the original cause I really am not crazy about the weight.
I know what you mean, for me it is still a bummer, that the Wigig is not available, I'm afraid, that this will be outdated when it will be released.
This was made as it was an easy release after all the feedback on the Crystal. And of course pimax Grossly underestimated how long the 12k will take. So standard pimax issue.
@@heliosurge9752 Well, I'm happy with every new VR device, all other company's, are keeping it very low. 😞
1. can you test it with DCS please, particurarly compared to DCS in Q3, key factors: visual clarity vs smoothness of the play with same hardware (I am bit afraid of higher res vs fps)
2. are controllers required for setup or flight sims?
3. can you order DMAS skipping basic ones?
4. how was hand tracking working wirh Pimax Crystal? would I lose a lot not having it in the Light?
5. is eye tracking missing in practice?
6. fixed vs dynamic foveated rendering, can you feel it with quality and/or fps?
danke im Voraus:)
Hi! Thx for your request.
I will try to answer the questions.
1.) I don't play DCS, but a friend of mine, is the DCS King :D he can tell you how much better the Crystal (OG) is compared to the Q3. Just look him up @tallymouse
2.) No, you should be good without controllers --> Crystal Sim Edition without controllers.
3.) I don't get the question, the Dmas you can order and install to the crystal, it depends how picky you with sound, if you have good in ear, this would be also a solution. For me the DMAS is fine.
4.) @tallymouse --> he just released a video with the handtracking module, I never tried it.
5.) For DCS YES, you can benefit in performance a lot.
6.) @Omniwhatever --> He created many videos showing the benefit of DFR, I think the support is quite good, but not for many games. Hopefully this will change.
If you have more question, just let me know.
Bitte gerne :D
@@liebesmaennchen Hi, many thanks for your answer! From many corners I can hear Pimax Crystal Light beats Q3 in terms of visual clarity, so I guess it is a matter of time for me ;) I suppose however Incan really miss the hand (and eye) tracking. I have watched the tallymouse’s video on ultraleap accessory for Pimax and it actually seems to do the job for modern jets… Much the same probably with foveated rendering. I’d love to have an option to pay more to get the features as they did at the beginning with local dimming.
As far as DMAS is concerned, I meant to be able to order them with googles purchase instead of SMAS sold by default, not to double the headphones. If I understand correctly, you cannot skip SMAS. You have to get them with googles and DMAS can be bought addditionaly, not instead of SMAS. However the case is you, having replaced them with DMAS, you cannot use SMAS any other way making it just an environmental trash…
Vielen Dank für deine ausführliche Klärungen sowohl in Video als auch in deiner Antwort oben 👍
@@hoot999 Hi! you are very welcome! :) It looks like, you only can buy the DMAS separately, which is very sad.
Very excited to get mine (in a while) but thanks for the heads up about the LH tracking. I'll grab some inside-out tracking controllers to stay safe.
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Great video and very informative, as always! Glad you weighed the two HMDs with the DMAS and accessories so folks have an actual understanding of real world use.
Hope that you get the lighthouse figured out and a response from the developers soon! If the inside out tracking is like the Crystal then that’s more than good for casual PCVR. Good first impressions. Cheers!
Thanks Mate! Right now I tried my standard crystal and the LH Faceplate is working. I will make a video as soon as I get a solution. Hopefully, it is only a problem on my side.
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Slightly concerning with those who have bought Crystal Light and base stations faceplate (and no controllers). They've already been asking for payment, glad I waited for reviews. See if others have this issue.
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12:55 the mystery finally unveiled and I laughed so hard😂😂
ahhahaha....thanks and I'm happy that you liked it.
@@liebesmaennchen it should be called "pimax crystal a bit lighter"
@@petergab3933 or Pimax Crystal keto diat
Thank you for your review of the Crystal Light.
Thx Buddy! And next time, we should drink more wine! :D see you soon!
Ist das FOV der Light merklich größer als von der Reverb G2? Wenn ich im SimRacing im Auto sitzend mit der G2 den linken Spiegel oder geschweige denn das linke Fenster nicht sehen kann beim geradeaus gucken, würde ich es dann mit der Crystal Light sehen? Oder wenigstens den linken Spiegel?
Ja, man merkt den Unterschied schon. Wirklich spürbar ist es dann, wenn du eine zeitlang in der Crystal verbringst und dann zur G2 wechselst. Es ist aber wesentlich spürbar, wie viel besser das Bild der Crystal aussieht
What is the weight of the Crystal Light with the optional top strap piece removed?
I get 915g, with DMAS and without the top strap
Good stuff! I hope they get the LH tracking sorted out in the new Play soon..
Thank you Sir! :D I also hope, today I will go to the office and try the light with my 3090 PC and hopefully, LH will work there
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@@liebesmaennchen Today, my good sir, I will upload the Pimax Hand-tracking video I have been working on for 1872 years!
@@tallymouse Wow, very curious to see it!
thanks for the FOV test!!!
You are very welcome!
Ajj schönes Video :) Ich finde es auch einfach gut, das du einfach zeigst und nicht den ganzen Quatsch drum rum machst. Und es ist ausführlich lange... nicht so ein TikTok 3 Minuten Video XD
Ach danke Foxiy, du weißt ja, für dich gibt es immer Eis, aber du hast ja NIE Zeit :D Hast du den die Crystal schon ausprobiert? Die VRChat Truppe die in Dortmund war, die hatten ja gefühlt alle eine Crystal.
@@liebesmaennchen Leider noch nicht und ne ne von unserer Truppe hat nur einer eine Crystal ^^ Und es wird irgendwann hoffentlich wriklich klappen, das ich ein Eis von dir bekomme XD Aber dann eins mit Affen Geschmack XP
@@karifuchs4419 ah ok, aber zumindest einer :D der war sehr begeistert und hatte ja eine Frankenstein Crystal :D. Die Türen stehen offen und die Eismaschine ist bereit.. ❤
My question regarding the controlers is that, if you don't need controllers for sims then how do you navigate the steam VR home from inside the headset?
You don't, but also you do not need steamVR for flightsim, you should use PimaxXR.
I have a crystal the unfortunately has some build quality issues I am going to send it back I have the opportunity for exchanging for money back a new crystal or a crystal light. I use this for sim racing I was wondering what your choice would be
Hi! If you don't need eye tracking, I would go with the crystal light. If you want to play DSC, you can use Eyetracking for better performance. With Racing, you don't need eye tracking at all, because there is no support.
Thank you for your video. Highly informative. Glad I pre-ordered. Will be using it solely for DCS & MSFS.
Nice! I never tried DCS and MSFS...but I heard that it is awesome with the crystal.
Ein klasse Vergleich von dir, die Software scheint auch recht einfach bedienen zu sein. Ich hoffe es dauert nicht mehr ganz so lange, bis das Headset ankommt.
Vielen Dank! Ich wünsche dir, dass du es bald bekommst, es ist wirklich super. Welche VR Brille verwendest du im Moment?
@@liebesmaennchen Mein Hauptheadset ist zurzeit die Quest 3.
An DP Headsets habe ich noch Pico3 Link und die HP reverb G2.
Die beiden kann ich dann mit der Pimax Light ersetzen.
Q3 und Pimax als Kombi ist perfekt für die nächste Zeit.
What about the battery ? Do you need to have the battery charged up on normal crystal even if you will only do pcvr and not standalone, like even for long hours playing sim racing ?
With the normal Crystal, you can use an USB-Hub with Power supply, so the Battery is charged, and you can play for long sessions. A friend of mine, he plays VRchat for more than 12h
Hello again, been a month since you put out this video, did you ever find out from Pimax if they will be making a FOC for the Crystal Light?
The extra length of the FOC could come in handy since the stock cable is 4.7 meters long? (kind of short)
I did order a PCL on May 31, not expecting it until the end of August (according to their delivery chart). To say I'm anxious for this thing is a serious understatement! LOL
Hi. Did you saw my cable extension video? So for now it is the only way to extend the cable, but then you can use get >7m which is very long
@@liebesmaennchen Hello.
Yes I did see your extension cable video (Thank you), I do have extension cables already, the DP one is rated at 8k 60hz (I think), was expensive and is thick), it's only a 6 foot cable (all I need to get to the back of my sim rig for room scale VR).
When I get my PCL I will connect it straight to the PC to make sure all is working as intended, once all works well, then I will try connecting it to the extension cables and keep my fingers crossed! LOL
Thank you for the reply.
does it fog up after 3 hours in the headset under hot conditions??? they took out the fans
I will try it, I also talked about it in the Video, I hope, that this will NOT happen.
once the lens heat up they don't fog its the same with all headsets.
@sean.d7171 not my samsung odyssey, and my quest 3 does it
Yes Standard Crystal was brain dead to use an elastic top strap with an non adjustable battery strap. Someone really had. I sense thinking that is a good idea.
you are kind of right, because I don't know many users who had problems, but I know some, so yeah, the crystal light is way better in terms of headband.
Great video, is there an easy way to access the windows desktop from within the headset? (without using controllers?) If you can double tap for passthrough, maybe they can add an option to give you a choice.
I don't think so, but this is a good point, I will talk to the dev. is something like this is to achieve
great! thanks for the review!
Thy Buddy! I'm really curios, how you like the crystal light!
Can you test the following games with the Pimax Crystal light: Breachers, VAIL VR, Contractors Showdown, Pavlov VR?
Hi! Sure, I have Vail and Contractors on steam. So, I realized that Vail doesn't support bots, so if you want to participate in the test, it would be cool. Just reach out to me and I will setup a GunGame Match.
How is the comfort to lets say a Valve Index or Reverb G2 (I don't have the OG Crystal to compare to), comfortable enough to have on your head for a couple hours or very front heavy? Thank you.
I think also the original Crystal is very comfortable, I got the G2, also Index...well kind of every HMD, compared to the quest 3, the comfort is MUCH better. So for me, long sessions are no problem. You should consider buying the Apache comfort or top Strap.
@@liebesmaennchen Thank you, I'm still on the fence regarding Crystal Light, can't say I trust Pimax much due to their past, taking a wait and see approach I think. I do however love the specs especially being a older (65) racing and flight sim guy.
Again, thank you for your input to my question. :)
@@liebesmaennchen Is the FOV of the Crystal /Light noticeable bigger than on Reverb G2? In SimRacing I cant see left Window when sitting in Car. Can I see left Window or at least the left mirror?
@mh7711 yes, it is bigger, but not so much. If you switch back to the g2 after a while, you will notice the difference
Great video. Is the crystal light compatible with Valve lighthouses?
Thank you. Yes it is, you can buy the LH faceplate. You can also see some testing on my channel. If you want to know more, just let me know. BTW. what gpu and what Hmd are you using right now?
Thanks!
You are very welcome!
I am excited to get mine. The Light House Face Plate you have you said you had dropped it a couple times. What I would of done was uninstall the Pimax Play Software you had for the Original Crystal headset and after you completely removed it from your system install the new Crystal Light Pimax Play software. Maybe then it would work...? But, I heard from others it works fine. We will see when I get mine. I appreciate the video. Hopefully, you figure it out and get it working.
I just switched back to my normal crystal and the .19 Software which is compatible with light and standard crystal. My LH Faceplate is working flawlessly with the normal crystal. The cracks are only on the plastic side. So who told you, that the LH Plate is working fine with the light? I would love to have this problem just on my side, because it would be a bummer, if everyone had it.
@liebesmaennchen Sebastian from MRTV has a review video posted, and he said it works great. But, there is a known issue with the LH face plate. Something about the antennas being too close together. Ender's VRcade has a video posted about it.
@@WOojerVest3andQuest3onMe I may be mistaken, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that only an issue with the normal Crystal because of cables related to the onboard wireless connectivity (due to standalone mode)? Presumably it wouldn't be an issue on the Light, if that was the case
@TenWingThread Yeah, there seemed to be some kind of interference with the wifi, but Crystal Light doesn't have that, so it should be much better. Hopefully, you get this problem solved. Because I ordered mine with the Light House Face Plate. I want my Tracking to be good.
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👍would love to see through the lens examples
ahhhhhhhhhhhh :D well, I tried footage with the old crystal using my GoPro 12, my EOS R6 and my Fairphone 5. The thing is, TTL is such a delicate thing, you could look at Sebastians Video (MRTV) But, if you would like to see something special, I can record it, but I don't think I would do it public.
Hoi Reinhard, danke für das tolle Video. Kannst du bitte uns sagen, wie viel ist das Gewicht ohne DMAS und ohne Strap von oben? Vielen Dank im Voraus. Grüsse!
Servus! Das Gewicht habe ich mit 915g gemessen
@@liebesmaennchen Vielen Dank!
Bestes Unboxing, bis jetzt, da könnte Apple noch was lernene 😆
Vielen Dank, ich war an dem Abend mit Pimax auf ein Bier und muss sagen, dass die wirklich super cool sind. Die Brille einfach im Handgepäck aufzuteilen, war schon ein großes Entgegenkommen.
Any noticeable screendoor effect?
No, these days are gone. I can see the pixels in the quest 3, right when I start the quest 3 and I see the 3d Meta Logo.
@@liebesmaennchen thanks for the reply. Yes, that was my first disappointment when I got the q3 but honestly I'm quite happy with it. I'm getting great visuals in msfs2020 using virtual desktop. Do you feel the crystal performs better than the Q3? Sometimes I get some stutters that come from the virtual desktop. As soon as I reload the app they are gone. That's what I'm trying to improve with the crystal light. What do you think about performance?
@@theegodelpozo Yes, Crystal performs better because there is no encoding necessary. I tried some games with VD and the Godlike mode and most of the games are not running that good and you have half of the pixels. But don't get me wrong, I really like the quest 3, we have 5 in our office and I'm working on a Quest 3 PCVR Wireless Video right now.
I'll ask you a difficult question: if both headsets, new, cost the same price, which one would you buy today and why?
I would go for the standard Crystal, because I like the eye tracking and auto IPD, also I'm very curios who the 60G Wigig will work!
@@liebesmaennchen pimax said the light will be compatible with 60G wireless module
@@liebesmaennchen Let's hope they will solve the problem of the Crystal not turning off. A $1500/2000 headset that turns off two time of 10 attempts is ridiculous
@@andrealongobardi4294 Never heard it, and it is not possible because there is no XR2 chip anymore. Have you got the source from pimax?
@@liebesmaennchen yes i read that is compatible with airlink
Thanks for finally showing us the actual weight. I'd love to know how much it weighs without any head strap, DMAS, etc. I'd really appreciate if you are willing to do this, that would help me a lot in my decision because for sim racing with a motion platform my main concern is how front heavy it is. Thanks!
836g without dmas and top strap, you could lose extra 50g if you dont use any faceplate
@@liebesmaennchen Thank you so much for doing this! But yeah, it worries me that it might carry too much inertia and shake a bit too much with a motion rig 😞. Cheers!
@@arminglf Could be the case, but I don't think so when you are using the Top Strap, you can really tighten the HMD, so there is only one way to find out....
@@liebesmaennchen Thanks again, yes and now I remembered about the trial program from Pimax so I might give it a go and if I don't like it I can return it.
What if I wanted mine in a plastic bag? I missed out!!!
Crystal Light Organic Edition...there it is, new business idea.
Thanks for the video. Since you are taking request please try rFactor 2
ok, I don't own rFactor 2, is it working in VR or do I need a mod or a plugin?
@@liebesmaennchen it supports VR natively
@FULLNinja69 perfect, so there is no reason, not to buy this game ❤️
Did you get lighthouse tracking working? On the edge of picking one up, but really need lighthouse tracking, so I can pair my index controllers with the headset.
I'm interested too because I had the same LH issue as in the video
right now, I'm in contact with the developers, will let you know if there is something new
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Seriously using a 12v cable from the old KS headsets? Terrible choice. Especially since this gets rid of Fiber Optic cable option.
I am wondering if they used usb2 cable as first gen pimax headsets had usb-c expansion ports connected to a usb2 cable.
True, I would love the option to have the fiber optics cable again, it is so much better and I would also pay extra for it.
2 top headsets on the market.
❤️ Greetings, still on vacation?
@@liebesmaennchen Back in the game
@@technikchegger7228 was about time :)
Hi, great video, congratulations. Did you have checked whether the crystal light also has the same switching off problems as the old crystal? You practically don't know how to turn it off and charge it. It's all random. After the latest firmware you can turn it off by making it go into charging mode (yellow LED) 2 times out of 10 on average
Hi! Thank you! Well, there is no "shut down" in the Pimax play anymore, and you don't need to charge it. The problem with the normal Crystal is mostly due the windows power settings.
@@liebesmaennchen you solved this problem on the normal crystal?
yes, most of the times, it is some usb power saving mode, very annoying, but this is windows and not pimax fault.
@@liebesmaennchen and what i set in windows for solved this big, for me, issue?
@@andrealongobardi4294 ruclips.net/video/5Qn0JqY4dAo/видео.html please try this,
Not a single usb-c port on the headset? I think original Crystal had a hidden port under the gasket, that one is gone too? How about headphone jack? You also said original hub with FOC cable gave infinite power but in my experience it's 6h max and then you need to switch batteries.
I can use the normal crystal forever, but like I said in the video, this is not the case with every user. No, there is no port next to the DP Port anymore
Better than the q3?
Well, it depends in what way you want to use VR. Could you be more specific, but if you just want a yes or no, than YES! It is MUCH better than the Q3.
It is too bad they scrapped having a usb-c port for things like the HT module. Very shortsighted. Lenses should have maintained replaceable as this model more likely to be in a VR XP centers. Also too bad they made it incapable of using a wireless module.
It was clear from the beginning, that 60G will not work with the crystal light, but yeah, would be nice to have some extras like face or handtracking modul. To be fair, it is a very nice solution, to change from the G2
I nearly ordered this but all the influencers on youtube forgot to mention that you have to pay £150 in taxes on top of the advertised price.
Don't you know how import taxes work in your local country? Are you not a grown adult?
@@somerandomperson8282 I buy plenty of expensive tech on AliExpress and don't get charged tax usually. So this maybe could have been done differently by Pimax.
@@somerandomperson8282 I buy plenty of expensive tech from the biggest Chinese marketplace and almost never get charged tax. Maybe Pimax could have done things better there.
@@somerandomperson8282 I buy plenty of expensive tech from the biggest marketplace abroad and almost never get charged tax. Maybe Pimax could have done things better there.
@@somerandomperson8282 I buy plenty of expensive tech from abroad and almost never get charged extra. Maybe Pimax could have done something better there.
Best unboxer! 😂😂😂 thanks man
hahahaa....thx buddy, I put so much effort into it.
in deinem Garten ist ein Reiher am Teich.... 😆 Die Auflösung die du da hast ist ja schon echt krass... aber auch komisch warum das so eine ungrade Auflösung ist mit 4312x5100 wenn doch die Brille selber 2880x2880 hat. Hätte da eher an 3840x3840 gedacht
Warte kurz, ich bringe dir gleich ein Brötchen und ein Erfrischungsgetränk rauf. Die Auflösung ist Faktor 1 in Pimax Play und 100% in STeam VR. Die Auflösungen sind immer etwas komisch :D
Rx7900xt?
This is the answer from Pimax:
Yes, it should work with AMD card that support DP1.4 DSC (Basically anything above RX6000)
And do you know when deliveries start?
@@TheAngelzx10r It has already started, I know from some users, that they already got their devices.
Good Video, i wonder what you said about the Big FOV Lenses. You said you are OK with them, while Sebastian made a Video and said these Lenses are terrible an unusable. When i came Back from the Roadshow i was considering to buy a Crystal light, but now i decided to stay with my standard Crystal and wait for the Wireless Module. But i reccomend the Crystal Light for all VR Enthusiasts who will change to a better VR Headset!
VR is very subjective, and also the lenses are NOT plug and play. Omniwhatever just released a very good video about the bigFoV Lenses, this is pretty much the same experience and sums it up very good. Often the problem, that people don't take their time to test things, and for the big fov, you should take your time.
Can you test Pavlov?
Sure! I will do it tomorrow
Nice one mate 👍
Thx! Looking forward for your next Race....wrrrrooooooommmmmm :D
@@liebesmaennchen will record on Sunday!
hi,now I know for sure that the cystal light does not have a 60 hz mode and yet pimax is still advertising and selling the device with that feature, how terrible of them !
In the end I will save 1000 € glad that I did not preorder !
Thanks for the video
Well, you can switch to 120hz and then lock to 60, so this should be working.
@@liebesmaennchen But that will be reprojected and not native 60hz
No you can half and lock framerate
@@lancemccary371 how do you do that ? Pimax cannot set a native 60 hz refresh rate directly in the pimax play ?
It's better to buy Quest 3 than to buy this.
Selling it at such a high price without the XR-2 chip is a scam.
And since it is manufactured in China, quality and after-sales service are also serious problems.
Did you try out the crystal? The picture quality is much better than the quest 3, 80% more pixel and nativ because of the DP. I love the quest, I own 2 and I got 3 in the office, but for PCVR, the crystal is much better in my opinion
wtf lighthouse faceplate not working ??????????????????? scam ? i pre ordered pimax crystal light with this light house faceplate, this is not reassuring me at all.
Well, for now, this is only on my side, I don't know what about other users, I wouldn't go into panic mode, let's wait what the developers has to say and what other users will test.
@@liebesmaennchen I wish I could say that "ok you're right, we shouldn't panic yet" BUT I ALSO PREORDERED THE VERSION WITHOUT THE CONTROLLER AND I'M PANICKING
Welcome to the Pimax experience.
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everything is working now.
Unboxing
Yes! the cat is out of the bag now :D
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