Kawasaki Eliminator v Royal Enfield Shotgun 650: Budget Power Cruisers? I
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In this thrilling comparison, we pit the bold new #KawasakiEliminator against the charismatic Royal Enfield #Shotgun650. Join us on this #review as we dissect every aspect, from styling to performance, to help you decide which cruiser reigns supreme on the road.
00:05 - Interested in cruisers?
00:28 - Introducing Kawasaki Eliminator
01:33 - Eliminator engine
02:02 - Eliminator styling & riding posture
03:36 - Shotgun vs Eliminator
05:13 - Styling compared
06:44 - Ergonomics compared
07:57 - Eliminator performance
09:43 - RE Shotgun 650 performance
10:23 - Exhaust sound of both bikes
11:23 - Safety & braking
12:03 - Ride quality compared
12:51 - Handling compared
14:03 - Fuel economy compared
13:30 - Value for money
15:40 - Verdict & points table
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**correction at 2.21. Kawasaki Eliminator - Seat Height - 735 mm
Correction at price difference too?
I'm absolutely in love with my 22 year old elimator, although I've kept added other bikes to my garage.
same here still rides the 2002 eliminator
I wish I had I loved it
Isn't the Avenger based off of it? Same bike, except that the Avenger has been in regular production, and has been updated? Wouldn't that make the Avenger the better machine?
Surprisingly Even after so many years Kawasaki can't manufacture a value bike in India.
Because Kawasaki doesn't value india
Kawasaki is a premium brand.
@@catastrophicyapping Triumph is as well,but priced from just 2.3lkhs
Triumph does not produce value-for-money mass-market motorcycles independently; instead, they rely on Bajaj for manufacturing.
because of "ease of doing business" in a corrupt country...
Why not comparing the Kawasaki Vulcan 650 Vs R.E. Shotgun 650??🤨🤔🤷♀
last year I bought a continental gt, but honestly, if the shotgun was already out, i would have bought that in this green color. It looks stunning! I still love my continental of course, they are two different kind of bikes
"and a coolant reservoir lid that's trying too hard to be the life of this party" 😂🙌
As indians,we prefer to do all bike with certain preference to aesthetic and design element.
But in real world RE Shotgun follows all cruiser design,which has its limitations.Its meant for Long ,straight,flat Highway cruising,with Cigar in the mouth. With Legs extended in front,with no rush in reaching the destination And not to forget long stroke engine with good low and mid end torque.
Re shotgun leaves upto to its category. Pricing and service network being icing on cake. Only thing,people who like cruisers seeing in movies or on roads should know where to/Not to,take these bikes.
Where as Kawasaki 450 eliminator though categorised as cruiser is not the cruiser in real sense.Even they know real cruisers don't work here,and they cant achieve the numbers,so they have priced it high.
Lower the expectation,understand the limitation,You can take all the bikes anywhere you want.
Once you decide and buy, Enjoy motorcycling...
Everything aside, Rohit’s jacket is absolutely dope. 😍😍
Thanks so much for the great video! Trying to decide between the Kawasaki Eliminator or the Honda SCL500. I’ve driven Hondas all my life however I may have to break tradition and go for the Kawasaki. Here in the States we have more color options. Really like the black and orange! Cheers!🍻
It won't make a mark ... India recalls eliminator as a Bajaj cruiser.... Kawasaki is still struggling with Vulcan 650. In india.... They should have continued the Vulcan instead of eliminator...
What they didnt mention are the weights of the motorcycles.. Eliminator is about 40 kgs less than Shotgun..but for the price forks..silencer -- colour options are a let down for the eliminator...
My heart says shotgun. My head says eliminator. In Belgium eliminator SE is 500€ cheapers then the base shotgun. 😅
Eliminator it is then!
never forget displacement is the king well not for speed always, but for ease of Riding i.e torque at very lower end of the rev range.
That 650 delivers 90% of its torque at around 2500 RPM, that means effortless riding without the need of constant gear changes
Eliminator its the Best choice.
@@Hyschardy it might be a choice in your head, but a person who has any common sense would always prefer a cheaper,better built engine engine(yes FortNine proved it in his video. Go check it out.), cheaper to maintain, And overall, a great package.
@@shree397Maybe in your mind it is the best option. go for it. I'm going for the Japanese one that's 500 euros cheaper. With that money you pay for maintenance ;).
In terms of aesthetics the placement of front numberplate holder is a deal breaker for me. it is like a tag stuck on forehead.
I think they expect us to instal a windshield
It's sad to see the japanese giant stil doesn't knw where to place the exhaust pipes and number plate. It all looks soo messed up!!
They are about the same price in the US. One problem is the Shotgun has not arrived at the dealerships yet and the Kawasaki(s) are everywhere. Which bike do you think we should buy in the Americas?
Great video.
How good is shotgun while riding in rough indian roads and also traffic?
year 2010 the girlfriend of a yamaha fazer owner drooling on my thunderbird 350 which looked more intimidating than that, same here the shotgun is better looking bigger and more solidly built looking than eliminator here
We were huge fans of Eliminator in our childhood, but they didn't continue. Meanwhile Yamaha came with its copy model Enticer and bajaj with avenger..But Eliminator had a different fanbase at that time..
If they would have used a stencil white shotgun.... Eliminator would have been eliminated in 10 seconds... No match ... Shotgun toooooo good looking
Im intrigued by how the guy's accent changes from talking to the camera to talking to the fellow host. Or am I imagining that?😂
Exhaust note alone would be a deal breaker for many, who does a high reving cruiser 😂
That front number plate on the Eliminator is a debacle…
Kind of ironic. In germany the Eliminator is actually 1000 € cheaper than the shotgun 650.
I just hate the plastic toy look of it. If the prices were reversed the shotgun 650 would be a no brainer.
It’s a CBU import in India, hence the higher pricing. Ditto for the Shotgun in Germany I guess, hence the RE is pricier. Design preference is a personal choice of course. Otherwise, the Eliminator feels far superior in build and performance.
I would get the eliminator & change those exhausts
engine should be more than 600 at this price point than reducing it's price and making it more convenient for buyer's
Although it's rare; people will think about it undoubtedly💯
All Black is a Cunning way to Hide Imperfections 😅😅
😂
Nice jacket bro. Which brand?
You have not mentioned the huge weight difference between them!
Kawasaki is a clear winner.. but yes cost is major barrier !
Kawasaki Eliminator 450 is the carbon copy of Honda Rebel 500 which is sold in USA market 😂both available in matte black too
In Australia the Eliminator is a little cheaper than the Shotgun……
kawasaki should make twin parellal 270 crank ... to add some pleasant sound rather than lawnmower sound....
"Avenger is a nice motorcycle" - Please elaborate
eliminator is just a beauty but very costly
RE finishing is like Ambassador
Eliminator will be my choice any day.....lighter the better...❤ If you have money go for eliminator....
Where can I get that icon helmet?
Shouldn't you be comparing Super Meteor 650 with the Eliminator?
as of may 2024, kawasaki eliminator 450 is 7,10,000 INR in bangalore; definitely a very poor value for money, you would only want to buy this because you want to stand out of the rest of the crowd, other than that, it is a bad buy, considering their service network coverage in india compared to RE who has the biggest service coverage in india, in the remotest corner of india too.
Stil I prefer shotgun , nothing beats RE
Better spend 2 lakhs more and buy eliminator its better in every way
These cruisers need to make adjustments for India market conditions and Indian roads. Its has to be cheaper (sub 4 lakhs), better ground clearance and suspension (for better ride quality), lighter (sub 200 kgs) and a city mileage above 30kmpl. Fail in any one of these and you will remain a niche product.
2:17 Seat height 1100mm? Where is your video editor?
We have sent him on a 1100 hour exile 😞
@@rohit_paradkar Hahaha
Where the hell is the number plate of the eliminator placed.....😮?..looks ugly.......I wonder why all imported bikes have their front number plates above the headlight......don't they know how to design a bracket for placing the number plate below the headlight, where it rightfully belongs??
I agree. The placement looks awful. What I do like though is that the mount can double up as a mount for GPS/Phone holder.
We want ducati multistrada v4 rally review
Shall try to make it happen
abe bhai eliminator agayi kya LML banati thi eliminator mai tab bahot chhota tha
For that price...the Kawa just doesnt scream quality! Triumph has raised the stakes when it comes to a bike looking premium and unfortunately, the badge on this bike isn't enough to save it from getting knocked because of that! Just cannot see a justification for this bike in the country at the moment!
timestamps Please!!!!!
So Shotgun is slower than Himalayan 450...ye toh RE ne apne hi banaye engine ki beizzati kar di 😂😂
Eliminator so much better , but Indian wannabes will still defend RE 🤦🤦🤡🤡🤣🤣
lol plastic garbage
Kawasaki needs localisation of production otherwise it'd only be brand to very high and passionate bike enthusiasts.
Kawa all the way!!
I don't like the seat heights of royal Enfield motorcycles. They will 785 mm but it will still give u a seat height of 800 mm or more. Why can't they seriously lower their seat heights for cruisers and bobber like this shotgun for practicality!?!🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
kaha se budget cruiser hai? xD
Looks good
R.E shotgun ❤❤❤❤
It’s a confusing looking thing. But welcome the two pot motor which should be a reliable tank like it’s street dwelling cousin. & it’s not going to be a drug for mid life crisis for those who rode the old eliminator. Will wait for the statistics to speak in a year or so.
First like and Comment Maker ❤️🩹💙
RE the king 👑
My mother's mixie sounds better than that Kawasaki
Ninja very over prices 😔😔 every bike 😢
Another Weired Looking Bike From Kwasaki,We Have Meteors then why to look at Eliminator,if kawasaki Vulcan is better option.
Royal enfield
Bas……
Royal enfield
Never really understood the jacket's significance , just wear a cotton hoddie !!
Can we have some grown-up presenters?
This isn't even comparison, Eliminator is just a bad deal
Ugly..expensive..lower engine capacity..expensive parts and service. Happy Selling.
Royal Enfield ❌ Metal Buffalo✅
That plastic toaster looking thing can’t be in the same segment as a shotgun, surely?
Looks ugly
That's an off-road helmet, it looks ghastly and out of place on a cruiser.
Then again you cant even figure the seat height.
Looks like you're on the wrong job.
Totally disagree. Its a modern cruiser not a classic style so it works. That helmet wouldn't work with the RE
Intentionally left to mention WEIGHT !! K - 176 kg. RE- 240 kg ... They want you ppl to buy RE. Biased 😂
biger weight have its advantage like more stability 👍🏻
@@mociczyczki500kg motorcycle would be good
@@Originalrebelosho lol + Eli's sounds are way more impressed
The exhaust pipes on the Eliminator look like the designers weren't even trying. The Shotgun 650 looks amazing everywhere you look.
That might be a sort of "japanese virus" going on the niponic islands... The same goes for the Exaust Pipe on the Honda Rebel. Designed to make the motorcycle more silent, not so loud and screaming.
With above 5 lakh rupees one will go with super meteor and will search out the whole country with rest of 2 lakh 😂
This Kawasaki is an also ran.
The 650 engine is almost 6 years old now. Its time Royal Enfield upped the game to a 900-1200cc parallel twin and took the fight directly to its western competition. TVS / Norton is not too far away from getting in on the act.
'This' Kawasaki has 450cc, not 650.
Yes @@robertnelson9621. I watched the video too.
But given the price difference, Royal Enfield could make a 900 for the price of 'this' Kawasaki.
@@Anant.Bhatia.Antz_Bin Royal Enfield doesn't want to get drawn into the cc wars - that's not how they see themselves.
There was momentum building within RE to make a 750cc WC Interceptor. Sid stood his ground for an air-cooled 650, and pretty much decided they would make air-cooled bikes. I guess the Him 450 was an exception; it stood no chance against the KTM and possible 400 ADV from Baj-Triumph.
If RE does make a 900 (might as well join the litre club), what sort of an engine would it be? 4 cylinder or 270 degree parallel twin? How would they price it - against whom?
No easy answers at all.
@@robertnelson9621 Well, Triumph makes Bonnies, Speeds, Scramblers and Thruxtons powered by 900cc Parallel Twins.
A 270° crank could make it competitive with V-Twins like the air cooled Harley 883s in terms of power delivery.
EVs are not coming into the performance motorcycle space very soon, might as well sell to the most lucrative end of the market before they do. Manufacturing in India gives RE the cost advantage that none of the others have.
@@robertnelson9621 I think they should just make an interceptor and a Super Meteor that is an 800. Just that much of a bump would be enough to satisfy me and yet they could keep everything the same. Meaning they wouldn't have to water cool it or go to 4 cylinders or anything.
Benelli 502c price has been dropped to 5.25 lakh
Eliminator vs 502c
Shall try!
The background score is too loud to understand the speech when on earphones.
Very informative! Thank you and safe rides!
Thank you and wish you safe miles too! We are glad you liked our content.
The eliminator, is probably the best all rounder here, but for me, the Royal enfield, despite it's weight and slower acceleration is the bike I would buy, it's looks trumps everything the eliminator throws at it! Looks are everything!
Itni bakwas acting
I know yaar 😞 agli wali mein improve karneka try karenge 👊🏼
The script, dramatisation and acting - all third grade and look very fake. Couldn't watch it till the end.
for those who are surprised why the big 4 (suzuki, yamaha, kawasaki, honda) cant make a value bike for india, well they can but they wont. They are more concerned about their long term brand value than short term profit or sales; look what happened to KTM. They would rather lose on sales, profit than quality and brand value. They seem to be using overpricing as a means to do crowd control to allow them to maintain the quality and brand value.
True
Damn. In my country its 31k (eliminator) vs 38k (shotgun). And I came here for reasons why to go with Shotgun...
India Tax pattern makes import bikes more expensive than competition
When you keep placing number plate stand in weird places like in w800 and this eliminator then it's very hard to take kawasaki seriously
If you are taking over 7sec on a 650 to hit 100, you don't know how to ride
That engine in a cruiser body... I don't know. Using the eliminator name seems like a cash grab.
The shotgun or super meteor definitely feels like a better option for this style of motorcycle.
Not exactly. You should check the Original Eliminator z900 from 1985
@@nithulnath9331 I was not aware of this model of the Eliminator as this was before I was even born. I should thank you for adding to my motorcycle trivia 😊.
So I checked on this and found the following:
"The ZL900 engine was a transplanted and slightly modified version of the liquid-cooled Inline 4 introduced in the 1984 Kawasaki ZX900 Ninja. Kawasaki used smaller 32 mm carburetors (the ZX900 used 34 mm), different timing and camshafts with less duration. This gave the engine a different personality, trading the Ninja's high-end power for low-end and mid-range performance that was more suitable for a cruiser."
So inspite of taking the engine off the Ninja 900, they did make some effort to make it suit the cruiser riding style. Also this was more of a drag style machine than a relaxed cruiser.
For the Eliminator 400, Kawasaki doesn't seem to have put much effort. So yeah, still feels like a cash grab.
@@the_winged_helm To be true they actually detuned in it to have more low end torque. The original spec of the engine was around 50ps@ 10500 rpm. Considering cash grab, Kawasaki made eliminators with 125cc engine at some point 😅, for a name which was coined for a bike which was a competitor of the '85 Yamaha Vmax. Considering that, this one is mildly acceptable I think. 😅
@@nithulnath9331 Actually they increased the stroke. Now with it a longer stroke engine it has more low end torque than the 400 it came from but of course has less of a rev range although still pretty good. So for a "cruiser" it is evidently a good compromise.
I find the Eliminator better looking, RE is all round and ugly.
It's 3 lacs cheaper cause the super meteor comes for as low as 4 lacs and the kawasaki is 7 lacs plus. How did he say only 2 lacs cheaper? That's very annoying, you guys giving incorrect info.
Also, it's not a tough choice cause nobody is going to pay 7 lacs for this funny looking bike even though it's Eliminator. If they have kept the price around 3 to 4 lacs, it would make a good sale. But 7 lacs for this, not even has USD forks. That's a huge no. Dont waste your money. Better get a z900 by adding 1 lac more at 8.3 lac or any other super bikes.
Seems more like Eliminated!
Unfortunately, yes.
12:28 You critic Indians, you don’t have any problem when HD uses conventional front forks for their Rs. 30 lacs breakout but when Kawasaki uses same thing for their same genre of motorcycle, you obviously have to criticise.
What country are you from, kind sir? “We critic Indians” have also mentioned that the conventional forks at this price point may raise eyebrows, but the ride quality is surprisingly cushy and does a far better job than its competitor. Maybe you missed that bit while rushing to pass judgment about the citizens of this country. Also, the Breakout was under 20l and the ride quality wasn’t anything to write home about.
@@rohit_paradkar Sorry if my comment was a bit harder, but I personally rode breakout and ride quality was quite satisfactory. USD forks means good handling dynamics, hence mostly used in sports & track machines. Also it’s more expensive to repair and in case of fork oil leakage it’s gonna drain the whole fork-oil whereas conventional forks don’t have this problems. Further to answer your first line sometimes I am a spit-on-mirror type guy and it’s one of my bad habits.
The eliminator´s sound is awful
Seat height 1,100 mm? 👀. I think there's an error 2:21. 735mm is the correct number.
Yes it's 735mm. Apologies. Pinned the correction. Thanks for watching.
4:03 even you agree that it’s crappy looking
Eliminator got “Eliminated” 😂
dude, dude
The rear portion of the eliminator is a little too short, looks like the back is pushed inside, like cramped from behind. Should have given a longer swing arm and made it little extended for a better cruiser like proportion.
Who writes your script??...*in a complimentary way..
Good review. RE looks dope.
Nothing beats old eliminator design. Father of all modern cruisers in India. Remember seeing it first time as a kid in early 2000s and instantly falling in love with the bike
Shotgum is impractical bike, doesnt give any value as useful machine but its 10/10 most beautiful bike. Period!
One would think the Eliminator would be far easier to pick up if it should drop .. something that's quite important for some of us.