Alien: Ore | Written & Directed by the Spear Sisters | ALIEN ANTHOLOGY
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2019
- As a hard-working miner of a planet mining colony, Lorraine longs to make a better life for her daughter and grandchildren. When her shift uncovers the death of a fellow miner under mysterious circumstances, Lorraine is forced to choose between escape or defying management orders and facing her fears to fight for the safety of her family.
Starring: Mikela Jay, Tara Pratt, Dalj Brar, Steven Stiller, Ambrose Gardener, Theresa Wong, Alexandra Quispe, Julie Boersema
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Alien: Ore | Written & Directed by the Spear Sisters | ALIEN ANTHOLOGY
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I appreciate the use of 1980's style tech in the scenes rather than updating. Gives it a gritty-retro-realistic look.
Retro Futuristic like in the Alien Isolation game. A respectful nod to the original film's production design. Its the 22nd century but they're still using CRT screens, knobs and buttons but no touch screens.
I sooooo agree. We all watch this because of the OG movies. I do like the new ones and hope w this series coming (fingers crossed) they maintain that vibe and include some of the new.
same
There's a reason why the ships in Star Trek and even real space ships use knobs and dials. They're reliable, easily replaced/repaired, and don't require a crazy amount of maintenance.
Aka Taylor commentor
Some of these shorts are better than some of the big budget movies
Great idea to make a short film channel based off of Alien.
@@JohnTheRevelat0r Xenomoph are not the personification of all destructive trates in humans as they are just one host of many. The Xenomoph behave the same way with Human, Preditor, dog, engerneer as it appears the host are all hunter animals. I wonder what a rabbit or other pray animal would look and behave like in Xenomoph form. Would it hunt and kill the same as a dog or human one? Intresting isn't it?
Yeah, not this one though lol
Y'all killed it thank you
Some are, not this one though...
The dog was the best actor ; it genuinely looked intrigued with what it seeing on the monitor.
SIDNEY! He was such a good actor! Fun fact: the monitors were just green screen. We were so impressed how he acted alongside Tara (Hanks) and really responded to what she was "looking at"
@@BlackSpearArtists You did an amazing job with this film!
@@jovanjakovljevic7507 Thanks!!
Hanks is a robot! I totally missed that when I watched it 2 years ago (rewatching it I noticed Hanks drinking the infamous "white liquid" that Ash dranked)
As a long time Aliens fan, you guys nailed it.
Second on that. Good job.
Noooo 😂😂😂😂
Now let's nail that alien to the ground
Lol, this is silly
Holy shit! I would love to see a feature length movie of this showing what happened on LV-426 to the mining colony.
This was fantastic. It had a great "Ripley" moment, with a subtle twist of its own. Heroes stand up and people band together to make a difference. It's people who get stuff done, not companies.
This is a point I'm sure the Spear sisters understand considering the small film production crew they surely had.
"...people who get stuff done,..."
And yet they had to form a company to make the film.
Im js. Classic 2000's street brawl at the end, 6 humans just throwing hands w/ an alien lol
Maybe next time the Spear sisterhood can leave the feminism out.
The best alien short I’ve seen. Seriously the faith behind the original, the execution and acting was amazing.
Congratulations!! This is an amazing example of how the series should be. The 80s retro aesthetic, the company-workers conflict, the strong (but not forced) female characters, the blue-collar taking care of the situation, good actors and characters not being stupid and facing the treat together. I hope you get the funding to make more Alien stuff!! :D
Thanks!!
@@BlackSpearArtists Yeah, I concord with everything mentioned. VERY WELL done!
I absolutely LOVE the looks on their faces when they're about to face this thing.
I like how it stays so true to the original. CRT monitor for props. Custom graphics for what's displayed. A lot of work went into this getting the details just so.
That's what I thought. Most of the acting was really good. The dialogue was bad in places but overall great job.
Did you notice the Terminator reference with the "Cyberdyne systems" on the computer.
@@thomasstetina6410 the
Lpl
You know what else is true to original? - Transformers
Yeah. And also the hanging chains in the dress room, like in the (cat) scene on Nostromo.
Tip of the grimy safety helmet to the team that made this. I've watched it a few times now and am truly impressed by the love and attention to detail that went into this. You really captured to tone and feel beautifully, the writing is tight, and I thought the actors really brought it. Kudos to you all.
Thanks! Thrilled you liked it :)
Ha ha ha attention to detail. Is that why 90% of the cast are women down a mine. Yeah they really caught the detail of real mine workers didn't they
There has been quite a few fan fiction Alien films. This is one of the best I've seen. Well done guys from a fan who saw the original when it first came out in the cinemas.
Thanks!! We're glad you liked it :)
'Fan Made'? Nope. Twentieth Century Fox made this. Why do you people all think this is fan made? Even if the writers were just fans, the studio made it. Thus making it NOT fan made. WTF folks. WTF.
This was nicely done with the feel of the original, 45 years ago! Can't believe it's been 45 years . . . WOW!
No Xenomorphs where harmed during the realization of this film.
@Edmond Dantes Ugh... Not to be "that guy," but can you leave your politics at the door, please?
@Edmond Dantes bruhhhh
But A LOT of humans were.
Like someone would care if some got harmed
They wouldn’t care unless it’s hitting their pockets.
It's sad that fan projects show more love and care for the originals than hundred million dollar Hollywood productions.
This isn't fan art.
@@juancarreon8397 elaborate
It’s just copy-cat, derivative, fan service.
@@aliensoup2420 Unique stories meant to honor the original movies and provide enjoyment to the fans... Hardly without value and the fact over 1 million people have watched this video shows there is interest for such films.
Also fan-service? I'm sorry was Sigourney Weaver half naked somewhere?
@@BigHeadClan Great, 1 million people so desperate for entertainment they will watch anything - even if they have already seen it a dozen times. It may be popular, but it hardly qualifies as 'unique'.
I never knew this short films existed until today. I've seen a few now, and this one is my favourite. The grandmother is great. I was surprised the others showed up behind her.
They have families on the surface just like her they are willing to die to save them including Loraine
Why can't Hollywood movies be like this. This short film was more entertaining than most full length movies
Shadows Echo because Hollywood is shit.
I agree.
Because this was a 10 min short, not a full length feature film with a story. I liked Alien: Ore, but you asked.
@@brentsaylor1725 if Hollywood is shit I’m
Guessing you never watched any of the alien movies or any other movies before? People talk shit about Hollywood but the. Would give Mickey Mouse a blowjob for midnight premiere tickets to Spider-Man no way home lmao
This one was the best because of the use of the W corps mission to secure one of these xenomorphs alive and captive. That was great use of the colonies and their possible sub stories while encountering the xenomorph species in the midst of trying to make a honest days pay. W corp is always the silent elephant in the room...great take on the stories possible branches and sub stories
We like how you think! Glad you enjoyed this one.
@@AlienAnthology I wish I could direct and submit a alien short to you guys!👌🔥💖⭐
I agree though technically, this story has similarities to Aliens vs Predator on Super Nintendo with Miners digging too deep and uncovering an Alien nest.
The winners writes the story on the news, while others know its real truth.
Did you kw the alien is real, in real life. They are silicon based and called Lurkas. The cabal use Hollywood to tell us the truth in movies. Predator is a reptilian species too, all real.
That was actually good. It kept the idea of how the Franchise is. Love how it cuts to Black when the Xenomorph attacks.
They should really make this concept into a full movie!
I kinda thought I was watching a trailer of some sorts until it got to be a couple minutes long...etc. Awesome! Do it!
they did. Alien 3 which was set in a mine or exoplanetary jail of some kind
Totalmente de acuerdo.
jesus 5 years ago.....
I would like to see this developed into a feature length movie.
BEHIND YOU!!!
Walter tytyyyyyyyy
It's called 'Alien' they used the same CPU and android interface too 😁
@JPVH You're a Dinosaur. Things have moved on. You're Extinct mate.
@ least a 2nd short would be cool.
Great film. Told you everything you needed to know about the main character in 5 min. Caring but assertive. Hollywood if she could.
Bravo! Congratulations!
Actually a brilliantly made short!
Thanks so much!
That was incredible 👏🏻 So many callbacks to Alien/Aliens, excellent work.
The best "Alien" movies/short films combine the dangers of greed and fear of the unknown. This is one of them.
This is so well done. Hollywood needs to wake up.
Hollywood is woke enough as it is.
A mining facility comprised of mostly women? Incredibly unrealistic.
Typical liberal horseshit.
News flash. This was done by Twentieth Century Fox, aka 'Hollywood'. RUclips comments are getting so stupid these days. Do people even go to school anymore? Comments like these make me think that this country has no educational system.
Seeing the miner with the Aspen Beer t-shirt was a thoughtful touch.
They need to make this into a full length Movie
Instead we get shite like Alien: Romulus. That trailer looks gawd awful.
It's almost like the execs & producers watch these fan films to learn what works & what fans actually want......and then they do the exact opposite.
I think they should start a Netflix series
I would like that too!these short videos are nice but ends too fast! I wish they could have some hollywood peeps with proper gun flashes and such like the Aliens movie, real looking and also buil large set pieces but that would probably cost too much even for die hard fans!
They cant DISNEY owns fox now.
@@dusemike123 That's true. What about the Disney streaming service? Or Hulu since Disney owns most of that.
I agree I think it would do very well ❤️
Lol whats a partition?
I just found these and OMG!! Amazing!! Why won’t Hollywood see this and get behind one!
They are watching....watch and see.......
Tall Classy1 just found this right now
@@bigtravis6159 You got issues
Haha because has no potential...is lame, no good actors, no acting, no design, just some lights....wtf
If hollywood get behind this, they will ruin everything. All old good movies was great cause they came out from nowhere.
This actually terrified me just like Alien did. Loved it!
That quiet jump scare, that was good. I miss that.
Ore is sublime. A fervent ALIEN fan since screening the original in-theater during 1979 & partaking of every iteration across all mediums since, Ore strikes me as an absolutely stunning and intensely authentic ALIEN short, ideal in every way: concept, production, acting, ST, minimal Xenomorph screen-time, retro-ambiance, editing &, well, everything! Thank you Kailey & Sam Spear!
Thank you Michael!! 😄😄
@@BlackSpearArtists No, thank YOU!
They were brave at the end. My hat's off to them. Superb short film.
Valhalla awaits for them
There was only one and it was running right into them. No matter what the alien does, (swipe left/ swipe right/ swipe front/ jump over them) it leaves itself exposed. If Grandma missed the first shot, it takes one of their heads off, but then is rewarded with 7 axes to the face...... Acid blood kills one more, it's over..... HOWEVER Hicks, Ripley and Newt who, for some reason where accidentally cloned and the clones escaped the planet, woke up here shortly after they're failed mission (who knew) run into the miners and all decide to go kill some shady Weyland businessmen.....
@@DustinBarlow8P ah ah dustin, you would soil your pants facing off a single xeno
Great job! The whole colony story before Aliens needs to be done like this.
Love this one the most. From character to setting to texture of alien eggs, all are very good tribute to the original Alien movies but with very original variations.
I definitely loved this one more than containment! Everything in this short went right from the casting all the way to the post production team. The VFX were flawless, the visual story telling was impeccable! I would rate this one a 9/10. Its missing the last point because it wasn't long enough lol.
Take notes Hollywood. Now, this is how you do a good Alien short film anthology!!
Dame straight.👍👽👍
This short film was produced by a Hollywood studio...
@@lawjef ,....and is awful.
can someone explain to me what this small footage is ?
is it fan made ? or from some of the movie producers ?
This is a Official RUclips Channel for 20th Century Fox Movies.
Woooowww I'm 41 years old... I like so much Aliens Movie... hugs this fan ...here Brazil 🙋🇧🇷😊🤝
What I really loveis the ending, where all these workers are standing their ground and preparing to face xenomorph head on.
No running around in terror, no desperate plea to save them. Nope! Their expression screams: Come at us, bro!
I love all these Alien shorts! I wish all of them could become movies!
PLEASE make this into a full length movie!!!!
lori Chiaravalloti you suck
@@sidpablo fuck off, literally nothing good to say. Is this how you get your kicks? what a sad sad way of enjoyment.
Steeven Guerra Amen!
@@sidpablo bruh, be glad you aren't in that mining company.
I will never become part of the Weyland Yutani Corporation bruh. Not now nor will ever be.
That short had me hooked. I remember going to see the original when it first came out as a small child. I'd pay to see a full length version of this idea. Def an original idea and plot. 2 thumbs up! This is prob my 20th time rewatching it
yeah was real good excited for the upcoming tv series
In space no one can hear you scream. On a mining colony, only the emptiness of the mines can hear the sole survivor of a Xeno infestation scream. How terrifying this particular type of storytelling is. Kudos to the team who flawlessly put this together. Short fan based films seem to have the lore, horror, gore and special effects down pac to the tiniest detail, sometimes even surpassing what Hollywood can create. Very excellently done! I am patiently awaiting the arrival of Alien Romulus, hoping it lives up to the standards of its predecessors which this short is clearly indicative of.
Ya ima geologist and have worked in mines. This is pretty accurate. Also well written characters. Good job. Best alien short I’ve seen. And most are pretty good. Don’t think platinum is mined underground though. Oh, it’s an alien planet maybe geology is quite different there. Anyway great short.
This is easily one of the best of these shorts.
The Alien shorts are great! "Betrayal" always a running theme in this franchise! The company and the "alien species" are always top priority!
That was enjoyable. We need a full length movie that’s this good.
you have a few already.. they are called alien & aliens..
the way you worded this hurts my brain to read the end
This was so well done- beats ALOT of the current “crap” coming out of Hollywoodland. This would be a great series on Shudder. Come on Shudder pick this up!
A year later, this is recommended....I liked it a lot.
Same here. I’m looking at the posted date and wondering why am I just now seeing this.
Nice touch adding the chains in the work room; their clanking brought me back to the original and Brett's death scene.
Yeah! Glad you noticed that :) As it was a film made to celebrate the first film, we tried to add as many little links as possible
Bravo!
Well written & produced, with believable actors.
Very enjoyable, well made short movie. Would love to see a full length movie or series. Mikela Jay was excellent.
You have. Three times.
4:32 What a great shoot, the way the dog look at the screen xD
Great short film! I saw the original movie back when I was about 4 or 5 years old. Gave me night mares for years. But it also gave me a love of this genre of films and stories.
Man, I hate typos. This is fantastic!! I've been waiting for years for this kind of quality Alien short. Thank you Spear Sisters, you rock!
Love the shot transition at 0:20 where the planet's surface becomes the wall.
Thanks! That idea actually was inspired by our costume designer, Barbara. We were showing her location scout photos of the mine and one photo was of the wall, lit by a flashlight, and she said it looked like a planet. So we created that transition around that idea :) Image Engine made it possible with their awesome VFX!
I'm happy nothing happened with the dog.
Although it's risky to read the comments before the video finishes because of possible spoilers, I'm glad I found yours early 😃👍
Now I can carry on watching.
@JESSE B Not my problem, dude.
@@PauloDarkForce Im completely with you 😂
fuck the dog xD
@@MischaVladimir There are only two types of humans. Those who like dogs and those who don’t understand the reason of life.
The atmosphere of alien coupled with the tech and action of aliens, very nice hybrid of the two, excellent work good guys! Kudos!
This short film was very well done. Cinema quality. The acting portrayals were great as well as the suspenseful ambience of the fictional environment in which the movie takes place.👍
WOW! So impressive, so much subtle attention to detail.
Great everyone who was apart of this🤝
Awesome movie! Very professionally done. Great story, great ending!
Thank you! We loved it too.
I agree. Well done all around. You don't always need big name actors to make big scenes!
I love aliens movie and I love this one.
That was awesome!
Been a fan of Alien since I saw it in a theater back in 1979....this was fantastic....I love seeing new scenarios and new characters take on the challenge...
This is the kind of stuff that could make it to a Hulu series!!
Weyland-Yutani never changes. Great job.
Dude! Top notch! I wish this was a full 2 hour movie I would pay to see it in theaters. This is awesome. The actors were spot on and the details were perfect. This is honestly fantastic, I would love to see more.
So you take no issue with the eggs having been laid in a spot no alien queen would actually be able to get to? Or the miners seemingly digging these tunnels by hand like 18th/19th century prospectors?
@@TheJollyKraut Honestly no I don't. Reason being eggs can be moved. Perhaps they were placed there by a Xeno Drone or by WY themselves to see what happens. Though the story line doesn't seem to support the later of those two ideas but point is a number of things could have happened.
As for the minors of 18th/19th century prospectors eh easily overlooked. Why? Because, the company is cheap? Because the higher tech doesn't work in that environment. High tech could be massively over priced or takes a long time to get to them, so the mine owner went old school. Again a number of things could be why. Also the film was set in the 80s with 80s tech it fits the timeline. Even though they had space tech it was 80s space tech.
So yeah I have no issues with this. Even though their is better tech for mining now days doesn't mean everyone has access to it. Heck right now some people don't have cellphones still let alone landline phones. It really depends on alot of things.
@@Steelcry Just goes to show that you can sell pretty much any garbage as long as you slap a big name to it.
@F. J. Hmmm, have you ever heard the saying, "One man's garbage is another's treasure."
I think that fits this moment. You have your opinion, and I have mine.
Titles and big names don't make me watch or like something. The content does. I like alien, supernatural, monster movies. When one is terrible, I will say so. This was not. it's a classic horror monster movie set up with good acting. The only downfall I have with it is that it's too short. I would love to see more of the story.
For the future, some advice words hold power, power to harm, and make someone feel worthless. To destroy dreams. When giving criticism, say what you don't like but admit to decent parts as well. Simply saying something is garbage helps no one. Another way of saying nicely you don't like something is "not to my liking but to each their own"
Just a suggestion, I can't change your mind, I've said my peace, and you have a good day/night.
This was a good short film, that being said it's MUCH HARDER to make a full length movie.
@egil kake yes
The little dog was the best actor in it. Not that the others were bad but the dog seemed to respond to what was happening.
Sidney! Honestly, such a fantastic actor! He responded to the screens even though we did those green screen. He was just acting off Tara's (Hanks') performance. Sidney also had a fantastic handler, Grace, on set to help him :)
ORE is a terrific mini film with ALL the right ingredients that make it on par with feel and ambiance of the original 1979 film! *****
Love these. Alien short films.. Thanks
the details and ambiance of this short film is superb...just wow
I watched about half a dozen of these great short's, man you guy's are talented, keep it up, who knows if someone will pick up and make a full movie on this.
Thanks!!
@@BlackSpearArtists your welcome!!!!
Well done, would definitely watch more 🙂
@ALIEN ANTHOLOGY - This short film is awesome! More please and with a longer duration, that really digs into the storyline including the fear factor... I really enjoyed the characters and the overall quality of production, acting and special effects of this little gem!
BRAVO!!! I would totally watch 2 hours of this! 10/10
This is probably my favorite of the anthology short films.
It comes to something when a 10 minute short story done on a budget and posted on RUclips is more entertaining and scary than the multi million dollar films coming out of so called professional studios..... Thoroughly enjoyed it - Well Done all involved.
Really, really good, all the hallmarks for a series
damn, i forgot that this was a short film! I had already felt a connection with the main female mine worker and the film just ended!
Same here
I love this one. All of the shorts are good but this is one of the best.
love the dog in the chair
Thanks for giving us short and awesome films, keep up the good work
At 0.15-0.25 was a beautiful transition, kudos! Character interactions were well done too, not just an auto-rolodex of premade relationships. Good charcter development. Loved the overall 'we're not gonna let you get away with this shit' attitude from a breed of people that would not have cut and run. And best of all, been an Aliens fan since the original movie.
Thank you guys, Loved it and now want to see more. Good Luck on your journey and wish the best success to you.
True to the original colony setup. Really enjoyed this. One of the most original I've seen. The origins of Newt come to mind.
Thanks! We were definitely inspired by Newt's home and the colony setting when were were creating Bowen's Landing :)
This was awesome! I love how everyone came to her assistance. Man, good shit...
I like Hanks. She's guided by company directives to secure a live xenomorph specimen at all costs when evidence of one is discovered, to the point of the lives of personnel being inconsequential. But she makes a serious effort at trying to get the miners out of the mine and away from danger. She doesn't lock the lift to prevent their escape, she doesn't urge them to do anything other than getting out of there, even promising them the bonus they're working so hard for to incentivize them to just turn and leave while they have the chance. She's more like Bishop than the other synthetics we've seen here and elsewhere.
She wants them to lead the thing up to the colony, that's why. Also go the impression she is a synth..
@@Chris_Oblivion Does she, though? Once the lift it up there's no way for the xenomorph to get past it and reach the colony. It's like a bottle being corked. It would be contained down in the mine.
Come on, no she's just trying to ensure that the xeno's meals are spread.
@@Asertix357 In that case the heroism of the lead miner and her arguments in the lift would make no sense whatsoever.
@@Chris_Oblivion she _is_ a synth, read the display that mentions the factory that made here
Best one yet. I like to think they got in trouble for killing it, but they saved the colony. They arrived to the top on the elevator with acid burns and a portion of a blown-off limb. One of these have to be a success story.
Agreed! I wish it was longer so they couldv'e shown the miners battling the Xenomorph! I can picture Lorraine being the last one standing--maybe using an scratch-made explosive (C-4to blast the walls to make tunnels), calling out to the Xeno (her last thoughts on her granddaughter and daughter) then setting off the bomb as it bounces on her!
ooohhh! Such a good short, amazing! IT is in line with everything the first three Alien movies had in common. Excellent acting, I have instant favourites, I wish to see them in a full feature film, with this story extended.
I've been an Alien fan since I first saw the movie in the 70's, this was amazing and could very easily be canon. Much better than the last few Aliens films!!
Just imagine what this story would be like if it were a full-hour at least. All of these stories need to be shown on the Syfy Channel, or Shudder TV Network.
Definitely a well-made short film! Acing was decent, sets and costumes were great, and the lighting was genuinely creepy. And one thing that was nailed was mostly how you showed the alien itself. It was always in shadows and most of what we saw was fleeting moments, like when they were running away and one person tried to fight it with an axe. I do like how you showed the alien being hurt without having to light the thing; just a shriek, someone saying "I got it", and then the fallen axe with the melted blade. Excellent use of showing just enough.
One problem I have with these modern Alien films is that it seems like the film makers just want to put the xenomorphs front and center in full lighting and no subtlety. Like "Hey guys! Look at the alien! Remember the alien! You all like the alien, right?!" Like they think they cannot be scary anymore. That is simply not true, and this film proved it. Now I admit that I wasn't really scared, but it did have me tense and worried. That's where I think an Alien horror film shines and needs to shine; tension for characters we like.
Which leads me into the part where I do have some criticisms. One of them being the characters. Now the main lady? She was great and I was definitely with her for her motivation to not let this thing out! Very brave and I was rooting for her. The other characters...well they didn't get time to really develop, which is a shame considering that right at the end, I was all in for a brutal little rumble with the beast! Seriously, the moment that she was standing there facing against the alien and then the rest of her crew came with makeshift weapons of their own...standing shoulder to shoulder against the unknown...that gave me goosebumps and I was excited! But I just blame that on just how short this film is. At a total of 10 minutes including credits...that's not a lot of time for character development while still delivering a satisfying Alien movie. This definitely needed more time, more money, or more something to cook properly into something truly amazing!
The other thing I was not fully sold on was the CGI...at least I think that was a CGI alien. It looked a little stiff and unnatural. Now if it wasn't CGI and was indeed a suit, then I apologize. But yeah, that was...not the best in my opinion. But for what it was, it wasn't bad and it didn't take me out of the movie. Just a little nitpick that I'm sure with more time and/or money, could have been polished and done amazing.
So yeah...BIG thumbs up to this, with the only real problem I had being just how short it was.
Thanks for watching! And for this great review. 10mins is definitely too short. In our minds, there's so much more story at Bowen's Landing with all the characters. But it was super fun to play with this snippet of time anyhow!
By far the best of the shorts in my opinion.
Halfway through, decided its good enough to watch in full screen.
WHEW that was well done!!! Really cool. Sadly, I just found this over a year after it was released. I want to see more!!
These Alien shorts are absolutely superb and just the sort of thing missing from the Alien franchise - we don't need big budget CGI just fresh ideas and well implemented storylines. The whole premise of the original Alien film is what makes it so good, very little is seen of the Alien and the tension is built up with whats hiding in the darkness being the biggest fear.
The directors of these shorts "get it"!
But Simon, this is fun to watch but not fresh at all. Just the fan-favourite notes and moments permuted ad infinitum.
Man... That left me on the edge. This should be a full fledge movie
This was amazing! True to the tone and message of the original, while not just serving as a rehash. Also great use of lighting and camera transitions. I would support this team making a full length Alien movie.
Thanks!!
Great production value, editing, lighting, scene, and cinematography. The behind the scenes and support staff really came through.
We had a super awesome crew!
Superb! The detail..acting...keep going