Great videos!! Are the shallow spools out of stock? Do you have an idea where I could I lay my hands in one. Found a shop online in Hungary but would not post arguing the cost of postage, which I was willing to cover but he kept arguing about postage cost. :-p
I'm not sure... but it seems like they are available... just as a separate model and color.... *cough* carp reel *cough*.... let me know if you're able to try it out. 👍
As far as I am aware, the shallow spool allows the line to leave the spool at a better angle for distance when casting. Also, it is more for braided lines so as to fill the spool faster with braid because they are thinner. Deeper spool let's you use stronger/thicker lines and/or gives you more line in case you need it (e.g. When you need to tire the fish or are fishing deeper water).
How much line are you able to put on it? It comes with the deep spool correct? 40lb braid here in the US, is .33mm diameter. Id like atleast 350 yards on it if possible.
Hi Aaron. Yes, it does come with the deep spool as standard. It is indicated on the spool that it can take 620 metres of 0.33mm line. That's around 678 yards if I am not mistaken. So if you want to spool it with at least 350 metres of 0.33mm diameter line, then that should be fine with room to spare for the shockleader. I hope this helps.
This is at Portland beach which is also along Chesil. I have had the reel for over a year now, just happened to start filming for the review when it was already being used for over 8 months. It still feels like new. Having casted a few times with me showing signs of aging and forgetting to lift the bail arm a few times and with 5 oz lead, it is still in really good shape. I highly recommend it. 👍
Oh definitely. The line that you're using has more to do with that, though. Having said that, I have used both braid and mono with this reel. Sensitivity is there either lines you use. 👍
Currently, with 147.5 metres of Berkeley Fireline Ultra 8 Carrier 0.32mm line on a shallow spool, 14.7 metres of Asso Protector 0.38mm-0.75mm (18lbs-70lbs) Tapered Shockleader, a tri-barrel swivel, the reel weighs in at 792 grams. I haven't experienced a backlash with this reel yet. And as for the price, it depends on where you are purchasing it from. The cheapest I have seen them go for is £69.99 with just the stock spool and without shipping.
Personally, with my casting skills (practically non-existent), around 50-80 metres with an off-the-ground cast, 2 hook-clipped down rig with mid-sized baits and 5 oz lead weight. Anyone else, probably farther.
Should be Item no. 58623 based from okumafishing.eu/shop/surf-8k/. Some countries do not carry the shallow spool (Okuma USA, for example, was not aware they were being made when I asked about it since each country offers different products). Hope this helps.
I haven't used a Shimano Beastmaster 10000xb before so I wouldn't be able to give you an answer. I chose this reel because of the availability of a shallow spool so i can use braid without needing a monofilament backing line. Having said that, if you will be using your reel for beach fishing as well as while on a boat, then maybe the Shimano Beastmaster 10000xb might be a better option for you because of its larger spool capacity. Hope it helps.
Just because of the spool capacity. You will be able to put more (and heavier (0.40mm braid?) ) lines which you may need since you will be able to put you bait farther. Plus if you need to tire a big fish after dropping your bait, you should have enough line to do so. Otherwise, if you will be doing more beach casting vs drone fishing, then I will still recommend the Okuma Surf 8K + shallow spool.
In the video you say the shallow spool that you are using will hold 300m of 0.30mm line.... and you say you are using some 0.28mm line, and a tapered leader, giving you just over 300m of line? You then do a pendulum cast which totally empties the spool! Did you use a thicker line than stated? Or is the spool capacity very low? Something isn't adding up
When I took the video, the shallow spool was definitely filled to the brim with 0.28mm SeaKnight Monster S9 line plus the leader. One factor that helped was the wind was going out to sea which gave me more distance. Another factor is that the part of the beach I was on is elevated compared to the sea level. And then there's the fact that I couldn't see where and when the lead actually hit the water - meaning it could have had hit the water and was just pulling line. Most probably, I was getting around only 150-170 metres and the rest of the line was still arching in the air. I hope this clarifies things a bit. 👍
No issues so far. Just don't load a line that's lower than 0.28mm diameter, otherwise you might see gaps on either end of the spool (i tried loading it with 0.18mm) since it was not designed to be used with such low diameter lines. I am actually planning to get another one, as well. 😁
me vuelvo con este jaja!!!estoy en españa volviendo para el pueblo! soy de santa teresita ! partido de la costa! en 1 mes tirando la caña con mucho amor!!! y a sacar las bestias de san clemente!!!
@@Ezequiel1994MYC el multi es depende lo que vayas a pescar , para el mar lo uso con 0.14 de 8 hebras , para laguna ( pesca de pejerrey) lo uso con 0.8
They do go really quick. Turn on email notification on your favorite online fishing store so you will get notified once they are available again. I waited 3 mo ths the last time, but as soon as I was notified via email, I purchased a shallow spool within 2 minutes. 🤣
I am assuming you meant dunk it "in water." First, why would you even do that in the first place? Second, if you did manage to dunk it in water, there should be no reason why you would not be able to take it apart, dry it out, oil/grease where appropriate, and put it back together. And third, if you did not mean dunk it "in water," please refer back to my first point in this comment.
Not for me…! Never liked spinning reels… ! Conventional all the way..! There’s too much shit going on … too many moving parts … what the hell do you need a bale for … Baleless spinners work fine w/out a bale … Dumbest design of a fishing reel I’ve ever seen.. !!!!! I don’t care how badass you think your spinner is… it will never compare to a conventional reel… not ever..! You don’t get 2speed function on a spinner … you don’t get distance like a conventional reel… bragging about how much line you can get on your spinner … got a conventional half the size of your spinner that holds more line than your spinner….!!! Line Twist will always happen on a spinner .. for obvious reasons… not ever on a conventional reel … Personally… I believe those who primarily choose spinners will never learn to cast or use a conventional reels because they’re intimidated by them ….
not quite sure where I "bragged" about how much line I could get on this reel as I was only stating what's written on it. And I do have conventional reels. :)
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thanks for your review!! greetings from Argentina!!
Thanks! I hope it helped. Tight lines!
Great videos!! Are the shallow spools out of stock? Do you have an idea where I could I lay my hands in one. Found a shop online in Hungary but would not post arguing the cost of postage, which I was willing to cover but he kept arguing about postage cost. :-p
I ordered the reel. I wish those shallows spools were available in US.
I'm not sure... but it seems like they are available... just as a separate model and color.... *cough* carp reel *cough*.... let me know if you're able to try it out. 👍
Nice Video i got this reel to for surfcasting i love it ! Make more Videos about this reel ! Thumbs up !
Thanks! Will definitely include it on my future catch reports. 👍
@@x3mgrifter do you tie the drag lose when your casting or not ?
I tighten the drag all the way before every cast
@@x3mgrifter ah okay nice !
Is that Chesil beach where you tested it?
It was! 😅
Does shallow spool perform longer casting and if it is what is the purpose of "deeper spool" ? Thanks!
As far as I am aware, the shallow spool allows the line to leave the spool at a better angle for distance when casting. Also, it is more for braided lines so as to fill the spool faster with braid because they are thinner. Deeper spool let's you use stronger/thicker lines and/or gives you more line in case you need it (e.g. When you need to tire the fish or are fishing deeper water).
@@x3mgrifter Thanks a lot man🙌
Where did u get the shallow spool from….there a great reel
I bought it from Veals Mail Order. They really run out fast as it is a really solid reel! Tight lines! 👍
How much line are you able to put on it? It comes with the deep spool correct? 40lb braid here in the US, is .33mm diameter. Id like atleast 350 yards on it if possible.
Hi Aaron. Yes, it does come with the deep spool as standard. It is indicated on the spool that it can take 620 metres of 0.33mm line. That's around 678 yards if I am not mistaken. So if you want to spool it with at least 350 metres of 0.33mm diameter line, then that should be fine with room to spare for the shockleader. I hope this helps.
Is that chesil where you do the casting? Also how is the reel performing now after 4 months?
This is at Portland beach which is also along Chesil. I have had the reel for over a year now, just happened to start filming for the review when it was already being used for over 8 months. It still feels like new. Having casted a few times with me showing signs of aging and forgetting to lift the bail arm a few times and with 5 oz lead, it is still in really good shape. I highly recommend it. 👍
You feel the fishes when you bring them back with that Big reel?thats My concern about this reel i want to give the fish a chance jaja. Thanks
Oh definitely. The line that you're using has more to do with that, though. Having said that, I have used both braid and mono with this reel. Sensitivity is there either lines you use. 👍
@@x3mgrifter The older the rod, the more likely you’ll run into sensitivity issues 😂
What’s the weight of that reel? Are you you using shallow spoil, no backlash, how much?
Currently, with 147.5 metres of Berkeley Fireline Ultra 8 Carrier 0.32mm line on a shallow spool, 14.7 metres of Asso Protector 0.38mm-0.75mm (18lbs-70lbs) Tapered Shockleader, a tri-barrel swivel, the reel weighs in at 792 grams. I haven't experienced a backlash with this reel yet. And as for the price, it depends on where you are purchasing it from. The cheapest I have seen them go for is £69.99 with just the stock spool and without shipping.
How far do you think you can cast that reel consistently?
Personally, with my casting skills (practically non-existent), around 50-80 metres with an off-the-ground cast, 2 hook-clipped down rig with mid-sized baits and 5 oz lead weight. Anyone else, probably farther.
@@x3mgrifter thanks for the reply!
Wow 👍
what rod suits it.
What's the part number for the shallow spool?
Should be Item no. 58623 based from okumafishing.eu/shop/surf-8k/. Some countries do not carry the shallow spool (Okuma USA, for example, was not aware they were being made when I asked about it since each country offers different products). Hope this helps.
Perfekt 👍
Hello sr, this is Better than the Shimano beastmaster 10000xb? Thanks
I haven't used a Shimano Beastmaster 10000xb before so I wouldn't be able to give you an answer. I chose this reel because of the availability of a shallow spool so i can use braid without needing a monofilament backing line. Having said that, if you will be using your reel for beach fishing as well as while on a boat, then maybe the Shimano Beastmaster 10000xb might be a better option for you because of its larger spool capacity. Hope it helps.
@@x3mgrifter i Will use ir for dron fishing, so i need a Big spool and good drag, wich Will You recommend me for that? Thanks sr
I would recommend you go with the Beastmaster 👍
@@x3mgrifter what would be the reason of your choice? Just for me to learn. Thanks
Just because of the spool capacity. You will be able to put more (and heavier (0.40mm braid?) ) lines which you may need since you will be able to put you bait farther. Plus if you need to tire a big fish after dropping your bait, you should have enough line to do so. Otherwise, if you will be doing more beach casting vs drone fishing, then I will still recommend the Okuma Surf 8K + shallow spool.
In the video you say the shallow spool that you are using will hold 300m of 0.30mm line.... and you say you are using some 0.28mm line, and a tapered leader, giving you just over 300m of line?
You then do a pendulum cast which totally empties the spool!
Did you use a thicker line than stated? Or is the spool capacity very low? Something isn't adding up
When I took the video, the shallow spool was definitely filled to the brim with 0.28mm SeaKnight Monster S9 line plus the leader. One factor that helped was the wind was going out to sea which gave me more distance. Another factor is that the part of the beach I was on is elevated compared to the sea level. And then there's the fact that I couldn't see where and when the lead actually hit the water - meaning it could have had hit the water and was just pulling line. Most probably, I was getting around only 150-170 metres and the rest of the line was still arching in the air. I hope this clarifies things a bit. 👍
@@x3mgrifter thanks. I'm looking at getting one and the extra spool. How has it held up so far? Any issues?
No issues so far. Just don't load a line that's lower than 0.28mm diameter, otherwise you might see gaps on either end of the spool (i tried loading it with 0.18mm) since it was not designed to be used with such low diameter lines. I am actually planning to get another one, as well. 😁
@@x3mgrifter noob question,can i load it with 0.40 or 0.45 line ?
It's not a noob question. Yes, you can put 0.40 or 0.45 lines but the line capacity will be considerably less.
Is it sealed against salt water and sand?
as far as I could tell, yes it is.
Yo lo tengo es una bestia , he sacado chuchos de 20 kg. Saludos desde argentina
It definitely is! Cheers!
me vuelvo con este jaja!!!estoy en españa volviendo para el pueblo! soy de santa teresita ! partido de la costa! en 1 mes tirando la caña con mucho amor!!! y a sacar las bestias de san clemente!!!
Que tipo de multifilamento le pusistes ?
@@Ezequiel1994MYC el multi es depende lo que vayas a pescar , para el mar lo uso con 0.14 de 8 hebras , para laguna ( pesca de pejerrey) lo uso con 0.8
@@federicotrapano5139 you won't be disappointed! tight lines!
My god trying to find the shallow spool is near impossible
They do go really quick. Turn on email notification on your favorite online fishing store so you will get notified once they are available again. I waited 3 mo ths the last time, but as soon as I was notified via email, I purchased a shallow spool within 2 minutes. 🤣
Dunk it once and it's history
I am assuming you meant dunk it "in water." First, why would you even do that in the first place? Second, if you did manage to dunk it in water, there should be no reason why you would not be able to take it apart, dry it out, oil/grease where appropriate, and put it back together. And third, if you did not mean dunk it "in water," please refer back to my first point in this comment.
cast lik a girl give it the beans
Admittedly, I am a mediocre caster 👍
Not for me…! Never liked spinning reels… ! Conventional all the way..!
There’s too much shit going on … too many moving parts … what the hell do you need a bale for … Baleless spinners work fine w/out a bale …
Dumbest design of a fishing reel I’ve ever seen.. !!!!!
I don’t care how badass you think your spinner is… it will never compare to a conventional reel… not ever..!
You don’t get 2speed function on a spinner … you don’t get distance like a conventional reel… bragging about how much line you can get on your spinner … got a conventional half the size of your spinner that holds more line than your spinner….!!!
Line Twist will always happen on a spinner .. for obvious reasons… not ever on a conventional reel …
Personally… I believe those who primarily choose spinners will never learn to cast or use a conventional reels because they’re intimidated by them ….
Lighten up Francis.
not quite sure where I "bragged" about how much line I could get on this reel as I was only stating what's written on it. And I do have conventional reels. :)
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