Why Is the Bible More Reliable Than the Qur'an?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Greg Koukl of Stand to Reason answers the question, "Why is the Bible more reliable than the Koran?"
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If Jesus christ did not die to save our souls. I truly see no hope. Thank u Jesus 💓 by ur stripes I am free
Yeah, the Bible says that humans are born into sin, and we see that all around us, and in ourselves-even secular anthropologists will tell you that humans are basically selfish, which is the same thing-we naturally want to center our lives around ourselves. That's just one example about how brutally honest the Bible is about human beings. Plus, I have read that the Koran is 5th hand testimony.
2.30 on....You do realize that "John" didn't write the gospel of John?
Not even the historians that still think Jesus was an real historical figure think someone called "John" wrote that gospel.
Most scholars think it was the last of the 4 gospels to be written, that it was written by several people and it's still debated as to wither any of them even claim to have known Jesus.....
The Bible has now been changed altered and tweaked
that's not what the Quran says! but you are probably a good Muslim, who only believes what they hear, and never read their own "book" (your book is garbage by the way, I wouldn't bother reading it either if I were you)
Very informative, thanks for sharing. I researched this question and this is the best explanation yet. Thanks.
Greg is always a logical, reasonable teacher. Well atleast 99% of the time ;-) He's certainly one of my favorites.
It's not explicitly an error. If you read Zealot by Aslan (He's not a Christian, the book is about Jesus as a man, not Christ), you'll see an alternate opinion. The basic essence is that the general mode of thought 2000 years ago is not equivalent to that of today. As a result, this extends to the way books were written and the way history was told. It was not the convention to describe events precisely, but rather to tell things truthfully. I'm out of space so see Aslan's book for elaboration.
There's another problem with the Quran--the main reason it gives for why you should follow it's teachings as a Jew or Christian is because it "confirms the scriptures you already have." Muhammed believed what he was teaching was compatible with Christianity and Judaism, which it isn't. The problem is that the Quran affirms the Bible as true, but the Bible teaches that people like Muhammed are false prophets. The Quran also contradicts the Bible on important historical and theological points, so if we listen to the Quran when it tells us "people of the book" to follow "the book," we have to conclude that Islam is false because it contradicts our book.
Thanks, you always have well reasoned insights...
Check apologetic press website on your claim.
Sorry, I have looked into it. Quirinius was not Governor of Syria twice, in fact no Roman was ever governor of the same province twice under the empire. Judea was not subject to a 14 year census cycle, because (1) Judea was under Herod and subject to tribute not direct taxation and (2) only Egypt's head tax made that census necessary.
Matthew places Jesus' birth under Herod (died in 4 BC) while Luke places it during a Roman census conducted by Quirinius, which we know happened in AD 6.
Show the sources
@@rossland254 Show sources for what? You want to learn about the Egyptian head tax system or Roman dealings with client states or what?
@@rossland254 Have you at least read Raymond Brown's Birth of the Messiah?
Uh, uh. My book says I'm right, and since it says i', right therefore I AM right, and I'd you check my book it will confirm I'm right, so that proves that the bible is WRONG.
imcoherent at best...
sir how do you test these miracle ? also i haven't read any books on my own religion but i am quite certain that Hindu religious scriptures also must have loads of miracles in them . thank you .
You don't test the miracle. It's simply unreproducible by definition. If we can recreate the miracle, then it's no longer a miracle, just a clever trick. What you can do, however, is confirm of such an event has occurred. Eyewitness testimonies? Historical evidence? Does the scene of the event reflect what was happened in the story?
Please don't respond unless you've read Aslan's book as my comment likely won't make sense to you otherwise. If you don't feel like reading a book I understand, but in that case there is no need to respond as we have nothing to discuss. For the record I'm an agnostic anyway so no need to try to convince me of anything.
1:11 Miracle does not make one divine. We Quran aloners do not believe Jesus did miracles. He was more of a child prodigy and more of a scientist later. It is too easy to see that when real world is considered.
1:21 There is no verse in Quran saying the book is a miracle of the Prophet.
2:53 Just like Bukhari, the writer you are talking about was a human not inspired by God.
3:04 You are presenting Bible as history books. This is embarrassing.
4:00 Hindus have more stories of their gods' miracles. They currently see what they read in their holybooks. So by your logic, you should convert to hinduism.
5:10 Just like the mainstream Mullahs, I am sure you never experimented with Quran and other holybooks?
Who wrote the quran?
@@ewoud1175 Prophet Muhammad?
@@meatrealwishes Prophet Muhammad did not know how to red and write.
Allah didn't know that Mohammad was illiterate until Jibril squeezed him 3x.
What "claims" did Jesus make?
Also...you're saying the bible is more reliable because of the personal pronouns it uses?
Aslan's very poor attempt at scholarship does not reveal anything new to those of us studied in the field.
god bless
That's silly. "Don't be precise, be truthful!" Luke was being precise by placing Jesus' birth under the Romans and explaining that he could be born in Bethlehem and be from Nazareth at the same time because of Quirinius' census. Unfortunately for Christians, Matthew fixed that problem by saying that Jesus was born under the Herodians and had to flee their persecution. Those are conflicting incompatible stories, and clearly intend to portray facts.
I don't see the incompatibility in what you state. The Herodians had some measure of power under the Romans according to the Bible.
@@benjaminpedersen9548 Luke's account takes place after Herod the Great and his son Archelaus' death. That is in 6 CE. Matthew's account must take place during the life of Herod the Great, aka before 4 BCE. Those are incompatible.
Muslims believe in the original scripture
poe or no?
You don't need a PhD to know the Bible is false.
Instead of reading scholarly responses to (Bart) Ehrman as recommended, he (Gary) renounced faith. ...The pastors at Gary's former church were concerned as he sparred with capable disciples of Ehrman that he had not yet come to an understanding of Lutheranism. His formation as a Lutheran required time and inculturation. So, yes, in this sense I failed to form him as a disciple of Jesus and for that I am sorry. ---my former orthodox Lutheran pastor
My former pastor is not alone in his assessment that my lack of knowledge is the source of my problem. Many a Lutheran pastor and layperson has accused me of not fully understanding Lutheran doctrine and teachings as the cause of my loss of faith and deconversion from Christianity. What's fascinating is that many an evangelical pastor and layperson has accused me of not understanding "true Christian" (evangelical) doctrine and teaching as the cause of my deconversion. Both groups have given me long lists of apologists (from their respective denominational flavor of Christianity only, of course) to educate me in the truths of Holy Scripture (as they read and understand it).
But here's the thing: I don't need to understand the nuances of the Doctrines of Baptismal Regeneration, the Real Presence, Predestination, or Justification by Faith Alone, to know that the Bible is a book of nonsense. All I need is a high school education and a functioning brain.
Here are the cornerstone beliefs of orthodox Christianity:
1. The first human was created by an ancient middle-eastern god blowing air into a pile of dirt.
2. Death, disease, and all the pain and suffering in the world are the result of the first humans eating an ancient middle-eastern god's fruit.
3. This same ancient middle eastern god soon had pity on humans for inflicting horrific suffering and death upon them for eating his fruit, so he decided to send himself to earth, in the form of a human being, to sacrifice himself, to appease the righteous anger of...himself.
4. This ancient middle-eastern god sent himself to earth in the form of a human being by having his ghost impregnate a young Jewish virgin, giving birth to...himself....as a divine god/man.
5. This divine god/man grew up to then preach the news of eternal redemption and forgiveness for ancestral forbidden-fruit-eating; "good news" meant for all the people of earth...by going to one desolate, sparsely populated, backwater corner of the globe where he taught in riddles that not even his closest followers could understand.
6. Even upon his death his closest followers had no clue what he was talking about. This god/man left no written instructions regarding what he required of mankind, only his confusing, often contradictory oral riddles. However, he allegedly left the job of written instructions to four anonymous writers, three of whom plagiarized the first, and, one bipolar, vision-prone, Jewish rabbi, who concocted contradictory wild tales of resurrections and ascensions into outer space.
Dear friend: You do NOT need to read the books of Christian apologists, theologians, and pastors to determine if these assertions of ancient, middle-eastern facts are true. No. All you have to do is use your brain: These kinds of things do not happen in real life. They only happen in fairy tales and ancient myths. It is all superstitious nonsense.
NO ONE in the 21st century with a high school education should believe these ancient tall tales.