Things Aren’t Looking Good For James Wiseman
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Will James Wiseman figure out how to be effective in the NBA?
I'm afraid it will be very hard. 😢
But I definitely wish him the best!! 👍🙏
yes but nothing more than a okay role player and even that will take another 3 years minimum
Stop meat riding
I mean was it stupid to have a person who only played 3 college games to jump to playing NBA basketball minutes on a team with such sophisticated plays? IDK. I don't remember that season for them so maybe without Klay they simplified the scheme for him. But maybe it would have been smarter to have him in the G League affiliate for half the season at least.
Yes he will become a solid starting center like 12 and 10 room protector but likely a serviceable backup center for his career
4:05 only if you ignore the 6 apg and 3-point range are they comparable. Sengun is also very solid defensively, currently 8th in DBPM, while as you mentioned Wisemen is a walking foul.
Also he is focal point of HOU offense and he does get lot of hockey passes which doesn’t translate to stats but helps a team tremendously
exactly sengun numbers were better completely .
Thinking somebody gonna blossom in Detroit is crazy 😂
Lmao im like who the hell is everyone?
Blake Griffin blossomed from a Transition Finisher to add Stretch 4 and Post Playmaker (Blake actually led the NBA in ASTS out of POST UPS) in ONE SEASON in DETROIT.
Christian Wood, in his early career, was a guy that "Hit The Wall" every 3 or 4 games.
Wood could only play half of a Playoff series, so teams let him go.
Wood came to Detroit, and the Pistons Training and Conditioning staff helped Christian Wood blossom into a guy that can play starters minutes through a 7 Game Series. BREAKOUT LVL blossoming.
Saddiq Bey blossomed.
Bojan Bogdanovic has blossomed as a Transition Finisher.
Just Saying. GO PISTONS!!
Warriors should've listened to Kerr and picked Hali with the second pick.
Hindsight is 2020. 😅😬
Is it a fact that Kerr wanted Haliburton or just rumor?
@@urbangorilla33 Fact. He called Kings after they picked him explaining they should definitely never mess with that 'weird shot of his'. Boy, was he right!
You got it right.. Infact, Kerr even told Luke Walton not be fooled by his awkward outside shot coz that guy could light it up.
he is a perfect naturalize player gilas team in the 🇵🇭
What would it have changed??? They would have sent Haliburton to the G league and he would just be like James Wisemen. No way Tyrese would have become the player he is today by joining the Warriors. No way.
His major problems are his horrible instincts, low basketball IQ, and poor hands. In GS all he had to do was be a defense first player and a lob threat (pick n roll). He just doesn’t learn.
yup. zactly. read my comment above bro ^^^^
he kinda reminds me of laker legend kwame brown in that context lmao
@@hvnzlxto Kind of, Kwame had some decent games but also injury prone.
Yep, you can’t teach instincts. It’s from playing. Look at Podz and TJD as examples.
Because that’s not who he is, he’s a scorer. Kerr ruined his development.
This video should've been, "Things aren't looking good for Golden State Warriors"
You don’t know ball
@@InsaneTrickShots you don't know ball than me, that's for sure
The next video will be, how Golden State Warriors is fooling….themselves
@@pianielmdkyou damn sure don’t know ball
Bro I’m low key fed up of them keep blowing leads bro
This is painful cause he strikes me as a genuine guy. Hope his fortunes change saad.
As a Warriors fan, these games against OKC are incredibly fun and suspenseful.
I honestly wouldnt mind seeing OKC again in the playoffs. Would make for an epic series, IF we keep turnovers down! 😊
The warriors should blow it all up next year and keep only Curry and a few key pieces
@@beesknees6704you don’t know ball
@@InsaneTrickShots this is your only comeback huh?
@@pianielmdk when the comment is that ridiculous and out there, after 22 games, yeah, makes sense. Totally casual take.
Golden State not making the playoffs this year.
Rockets are looking for backup center who’s big and play defense for short minutes after they drop the ball on Jock Landale. We don’t care about Wiseman not having offensive skill since Ime Udoka don’t even use +60 TS% Jabari Smith Jr. and he is all about defense. Best addition could be Jonathan Isaac from Orlando but he is rarely healthy and availability is best ability in NBA.
Yeah is terrible. You guys don't want him.
Bro was like two things he need to improve then mentioned like 5-6 things 😂
Some NBA players who went pro with the second pick in the draft went on to become star players, such as Jerry West, Isiah Thomas, Kevin Durant, and Gary Payton.
However, it is also true that many players who entered the professional ranks in second place in the draft failed to become star players and ended up disappointing their prospects.
So? What is the point? I mean, they either make it or not.
@@chironjoI think he’s trying to say 2nd picks are either flops or top tier
If James Wiseman were a RAPPER, Comedian, Actor, Singer, or Entrepreneur and had made $39 MIL in 4 years, few would be questioning his "effectiveness".
The first 3 Season's of James Wiseman's NBA Career were UNDERGRAD Years.
The 2023 SUMMER OFFSEASON was his GRADUATE YEAR.
Unfortunately for Wiseman Monty Williams is a veteran coach who is tough on the young guys that make mistakes which is the sum of the Detroit Pistons roster. Fans have seen this with Jaden Ivey and Ausar Thompson being limited in their roles.
At the center position there's a logjam with Duren and Bagley which leaves little opportunity for Wiseman to get minutes to further develop. The trade never made any sense for Detroit, bad situation all around.
It's way more then that Monty rubs players the wrong way. He isolates them and beefs with them. He came preaching defense as a rebrand. But i watch nba games not just Pistons. Dude has never asked Devin to play defense in any year. Next Joe harris has been a corpse for 2 years and never played D. He was put in just to score. Also take Alec Burks who if he isn't scoring he can't do anything else. Players are given special treatment. Troy didn't want Monty and Monty didn't want to coach for us. He came for the money and he has looked disinterested. His lack of adjustments effected Phoenix in the post season. Now this roster of his with Beef stew being the leading second scorer. Has lost 24 games. Then add that with lack of prospect development and over reliance on vets. Who should have been traded like Bogee and Burks.
That trade was made because the Pistons didn't want to pay Bey. Which was foolish they gave bagley to much. Then Stew got payed the same as Bey in Atlanta and Bey is a shooter we could use. But this city is dumb then they extended Stew. Who has shown no progress when they could have signed him at the end of this season. I also heard they wanted Wiseman. This team loves log jams. But it was to get rid of Bey.
@@detroitshinobi4995 I know, just keeping it surface level since most fans don't bother to pay attention to Detroit. Monty Williams has been awful with the lineups and rotations all season. He preaches defense first and wants his players to "earn minutes" but his actions have been contrary all season. Jaden Ivey has been in the doghouse and he fails to play guys to their strengths.
The last few games he finally started experimenting with getting Ausar and Ivey more involved in the offense which should have started from the beginning of the season.
To compound it all we've had so many injuries, Duren's been out half the games this year and we haven't even seen Morris. The bench has been at an all-time level of abysmal. Joe Harris, Alec Burks, and Isaiah Livers, guys who are supposed to be excellent scorers can't hit anything, career lows.
Combine it all together and you have a historically bad team.
Don't forget that in the past, Hoops report make video such 'James Wiseman Looks Like beast', 'James Wiseman Will Become A Superstar MVP', ' The Warriors Made The CORRECT DECISION Drafting James Wiseman'.
“James Wiseman Fooled Everyone” 😂
@@reconnaisance James Wiseman will become problem LOL.
@@reconnaisance Wiseman play like a Beast, especially during pick'n roll situation
Now we know why he’s a RUclipsr instead of a GM.
@@oscarpastores8137 Every youtuber believe that they can be a GM. Until one their video age like a milk. LOL
Pistons have too many big men. He needs to be on a team like the Wizards, Celtics, Spurs, or Heat. Those teams all need an extra big man.
He does not need to return to gsw. He needs to go somewhere that can teach him how up play. Find himself to a less physically talented vet that knows how to play but can teach him stuff without losing their position. Wonder if Bill Laimbeer is still around the Pistons
I did not expect the end of this video. I don't know if JW will make it in the NBA, but I don't expect him to make it back to Golden State, even though I'd kind of like for him to get another chance.
he had nikola jovic's coach, still cant do a pick and roll 😭😭😭😭
It’s been years and the boy can’t set a screen. He should be happy with the absurd money he made and look to other ventures
I think he only got drafted as high as he did because of how similar he is to Embid physically 😅
@@prophecy9521 His leash in GS was only that long because Poole came in ass af and made incredible improvements through the Gleague stints. Hes already been given more than enough chances
He has everything needed to be a star in the NBA, if he trade was properly explained to him by the Warriors look for him to be a hugely successful Warrior again in the near future.
It's pity that wiseman traded before CP2 came to GSW
If only CP3 come much earlier wiseman could be the best center the GSW drafted just ask Ayton , Sarge and other center which played along CP3 ,
Because of intellectual abilities of CP3 to teach players specially at the center wiseman will be unstable
The Warriors basically got rid of him, I don't see them signing him again in the future, especially since he hasn't really improved. They need a big body, but someone with a different mindset, I guess.
literally dwight but he wanna get caught in drama
There's Dozens of big men available for a relatively cheap price. A guy who's skillset is basically be tall and occasionally Dunk/score near the rim isn't exactly rare
They got rid of Wiseman bc they don't want to pay 10-12M a year for a player to sit on the bench. When Wiseman becomes a FA, GSW will consider signing Wiseman for NBA minimum or G league contact. Wiseman is considered a player that went from High school to the NBA. That is very difficult to do. Will Wiseman develop? That need to be seen & depends on the coaching, whomever it may be.
Kerr dont like big until dubs get rid of kerr then we will never get bigger players
@@Yoyoy08 The Warriors are rarely a big team ever. They have ALWAYS played small ball since Don Nelson coached.
Whts good wit it,,,
On da realla we need to get him back and play him on a different roll I can see it playing him on a different roll once again,,,
Y'all let me knw wht it do,,,
Ight Koo Now,,,
Send him to Memphis and his hometown fans. He's a natural fit with their big man out for the season.
Y'all remember a few weeks ago this guy said shai was so thankful for the warriors and thunder wouldn't play again this season and all hell would break loose the next time they met.
Best wishes for you wishes in your world right ✅️ now keep safe and healthy and keep doing great things for your life 👍🏾 💜 ka.pai bless you Wiseman 🙏 💜
How you get drafted to the NBA and then be this bad? It’s like a dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde situation. Strange
Monty Williams don’t like to play rookies and he’s a player that needs a lot of chances to experiment.
Yeah he did a great job with "dominayton" in phoenix
what you on about? He playing that rookie Thompson every game, Wiseman just sucks bro...
I am showing myself out. @@jakasmalakas
@@Pascii4lifeon top of that’s he’s not even a damn rookie lmao
Guy sat out 18 months he hasn't had the opportunity. There's a lot of guys that don't make it in the league.
Just proves that Ant man was the only pick at #1
Wiseman killed the GS Dynasty. 😂
I'm over the Kawhi laugh, I don't think there's a need to use it anymore.
the few times I watched him play live...he just seems to not know whats going on. Always seems a step behind and reactionary instead of anticipating stuff.
If Warriors are in same corner as Celtics were back in '21-'22 (.500 mid January), which SINGLE trade would you suggest by then (come trade deadline)?
Celtics added Derrick White, and they went 51-31 in total that season so massive improvement since his addition.
What trade is there for the Warriors to have a similar regular season and playoffs to those Celtics back in '21-22?
There's not really a trade they can do unless they want to get rid of all their young guys for old vets. There's no real trade value for cp3 right now, warriors wouldn't dare trade klay or dray, and Looney isn't going anywhere. Their chance was when they were trading Poole, and they traded for the wrong wizard. Should have traded for porzingis instead of cp3, same injury risk with much better fit amd potential.
U telling me gsw could have had porzingis but got cp3 😂😂😂
@@JordanJumpman that seems a little hard to believe lol. 😅 not sure the contracts add up.
Trade wigging and kuminga for siakam
Warriors need someone like Brook Lopez! Simple as that...
Gotta love these RUclips experts
Hoop Reports is the best among them.
His mouth is on Draymond's ballsack 24/7.
I think he could be solid on Mavs as a backup big. He would only have to rebound, set screens, catch lobs and protect the rim.
He can't set screens, rebound well for his size or protect the rim, in fact he fouls almost all the time. I'd honestly rather have Powell for my mavs than Wiseman, that's how bad he is lol
When Wiseman was with the Warriors he was shooting from three and midrange. He was encouraged to . . . The biggest thing was he couldn’t play with Curry.
Kerr made him play defense, rim protect, rebounds and dunks. No other offensive development.
he also could not set up shooters by passing from the top of the key which all warriors centers have to do. i hope the Pistons release him and the Warriors give him another chance to get it right.
Big guys need to have good fundamentals today. He needed more college experience.
A few games in college probably didn’t qualify him to has NBA potential … the reality was that he’s drafted so high .. his rookie salary for three years was probably 15 million or so .. plenty great enough for him and his family to last a life time
probably not😢. His broker took 10%, and then ~50% tax. So only about 5 million left. 5 million is nothing nowadays
@@MsKaishek 5 million for 4 years. Most people dont make 20 million in their lifetime. That doesnt include all the money he got from mephis that he didnt get caught for. LOL (unless you think a top highschool player in the country would throw away his brand for 11 grand?)
@@abprepboy33 Make sense! Hope he could be wise financially and he will enjoy a good life.
I would want him to go to Memphis, Adams is out the whole year, so he would be able to get minutes there
Why would he go back to a team that traded him? Unless no one wants him which I doubt. Go to the Lakers. We boost players value like cam Reddish,
Klay got him hooked on chasing the high 🌱🚬💨
Soon centers will be considered un-draft able … or like RBs in the nfl, found in the late rounds rather than first
Bro him missing out on college games shouldn’t have affected his game. He was a top prospect who trained with some of the elite coaches.. regardless of if he was on the floor or not during college. PLUS shit like that u learn in high school .
This is why some guys need to stay in college to develop. Bagley, Wiseman, Killian Hayes,etc.
Dude, I was with ya until the very end. Under no circumstances should we ever reconsider getting him back. IMHO
The James wiseman effect 😢
🙏
This is why 2 -4 year of college helps these kids develop. Sad to watch potential wasted.
To Wiseman's defense... that pass out of bounds to kuminga.. was kumingas fault... it was passed to where kumiga was supposed to be... but kuminga was flat footed and just standing there not doing shit. Kuminga was supposed to be streaking in the rebound. Regarding the screening... the clips you selected show Wiseman not properly sealing and not properly drop stepping and rolling to the basket... not sure why he is doing that! If I could just coach him for 2 weeks with some fundamentals, I would love to get him back on the warriors!
Yes an nba player would benefit from coaching from a dork that knows nothing 😂
Has Kerr managed to develop any young player?
GS has been picking bad players not worth developing, in fact they often play worse on other teams. Kerr and Curry made them look better than they were.
In the first 4 and a half minutes, drink every time the narrator says "So why can't he get minutes/in the game?" Good lord.
He need to play with a coach who got teaching character liks greg popovich
The warriors gave up on wiseman to early
hes been in the league almost 4 yrs its shocking to see him struggle to do a screen.
I remember James Wiseman saying it was better In GOLDEN STATE CAUSE CHAOS
The kid plays super intimidated of who he’s up against he’s on tape delay
James Wiseman best fit in Wizards, Spurs, Bulls or Charlotte 🤔🤔🤔
I dont see why can't we pick him up for the Cheap from the Pistons.
Hindsight is 2020 as they had a chance to draft Tyrese Haliburton, pair him with Klay, Steph, Kuminga, Moody, Draymond and GP3 and now CP3. !! Bob Meyers said they missed on that one!!!
I like Tyrese where he is, it didn’t work in SAC with Fox, don’t think it will in GS. Indiana is perfect.
It's time for the warriors to blow it up. Keep Curry trade the rest. I'm sure curry will still be dropping 25-5-5 at least the next season.
steph is averaging 30 nxt year and i guarantee that
Warrior do not need to blow it up, if they never start to play with 2 time line in begin with.
@@Chiyenworkout nah man, the game is changing, I think they need efficient scorers at all the 3 levels
@@nolimitgang05 he said atleast 25 5 and 5
J Wise wasn’t lead very well as a younger player. Just like how Seth Curry (who is still an all time shooter % wise) had his career slowed by college rules, so did J Wise.
I pray he actually gets the chance to develop. I can say as a player who wasn’t really given a chance to bloom that even some time away from the league can be good for him. I took some years out and turned myself into a great shooter and scorer. Maybe without the pressure of thinking his jobs on the line and that he needs to make Cade look good, he can focus on the details in his game.
Your likely right. The pressure of being a 2 pick seems to be effecting him. Once he's on a minimum contract next year he'll price he's serviceable.
@@jsports2665 you are also likely right. I recall it being reported James was suffering with some mental health issues (likely depression), while having to sit out. I can say as a competitor that it is a very difficult road to walk knowing your team won a championship while you was out. So many rare and challenging things happen to James it would be a shame if the NBA let someone with his talent and drive go to waste.
"I can say as a player who wasn’t really given a chance to bloom "
HUH? He was given EVERY chance to improve. He's a loser big man who is not intelligent enough to read basic plays.I've been watching the NBA for a long time and he can join the growing list of BIG MAN BUST. The only "accomplishment" he can make of his life is that ring, and that was a lucky ride he got on.
I agree with most of what you said, but Wiseman only played 3 college games, so I'm not sure about the college rules. After 4 years in the NBA, silly mistakes like some of his fouls should have been fixed by now. I do believe his BB IQ is very low, that alone will make a coach crazy. I do hope he figures it out, I like Wiseman.
@@stargells1384 By college rules I mean that a player cannot receive direct financial incentives from a team. Leading to Wise only being allowed to play 3 games. I’m not personally aware of him being low IQ. One of my criticisms of him is his hands could be better and he doesn’t roll hard to the rim. Those are more habits than IQ. But if you could point some out I’m intrigued
He is playing behind Duren, whom he is more skilled than. He should be bringing some good habits with him from the Warriors!! He better get it together!!!
I still cant believe that we coulda gotten Tyrese Haliburton bro, if only everyone knew what typa player he would be rn 😭
Then make it better, rather than looking for super teams to bring you up. That should be the mentality.
If golden state had only drafted lemelo they wouldn’t have wasted that pick, klay would have no choice but to sit behind melo and curry would still have someone to cook with for a few years . Trade kuminga and Wiggins and go get that dude in Toronto
Melo would be on the bench fighting for minutes, plain and simple.
He's only 22... give the guy some time... he has plenty of it
2years in europe would shape him to be to the very least a good starting center
Can you imagine the abuse that Draymond put Wiseman through
I thought he was going to be good too. It seemed like he produced pretty well minute to minute on the warriors. Then again I could be biased because hes an old teammate of mine.
When his contract expires he can go back to golden state. But should learn to be a monster rebounder. Build up his legs and his speed.
Fun fact: the Pistons are 2-43 when they make the mistake of letting him play 8+ minutes.
Wiseman needs to watch RUclips vids on playing center and talk about being a good person
Honestly he should have stayed in school because I see guys trying to get to the 2nd contract as fast as possible but what does it matter if that 2nd contract is with the Shanghai sharks? Young guys are not developing anymore despite the g league
Rockets could use him backing up Sengun
he needs to be in the G-league
Wiseman needs to learn Chinese.
He already got basics in mandarin
no signs for any upside; sad to see him as a bust.
cant get a min on NBA worst team = bad. go to China and play there
James Wiseman needs to learn everything about basketball fundamentals
You should rename your channel "Golden State Warriors Reports"
Spurs should take a gamble on him and put him in G-League this season.
He is just the latest in a long line of centers picked in the top 3 because of their size and athleticism that amounted to nothing because of their low basketball IQ- Jahlil Okafor, Anthony Bennett, Marvin Bagley, Enes Kanter, Hasheem Thabeet, Michael Olowokandi, Darko Milicic. Pro basketball is more than running and jumping.
I feel like the warriors screwed them selves trading so many young players though and keeping the luggage of Draymond and Washed Klay. I get their vets, legacy and dynasty players. But they need to look into the longevity and future of the franchise and not the present lol. Curry is old now too and has a history of ankle injuries he can’t keep doing it all by himself with a 30% team effort from Wiggins and the gang.
Watching highlights JW looks great. Unfortunately highlights are basically fiction to entertain but don't tell you anything. All players can shoot 100 percent from 3, block every layup and steal every pass in highlight world. If you're doing all that and you're 7 feet, it looks amazing. Meanwhile, every coching comment is something like " Every time JW steps on the floor, it kills our defense and offense and we fall behind. Other than that....Great Kid"
Completely inaccurate accounting of his stint in GS
Golden State WAS "light years" ahead of everyone else.
Miami needs a big man
He’s too raw… he’s no victor wembemyama
I agree, I'd like to see him back with the Warriors next year on a minimum contract, as a low-risk/high-reward deal. It doesn't look like the Pistons have any use for him.
Heck no. The warriors dont need a project, they need vets that can actually produce to help with the lack of production by klank thompson and wigs
@@garfieldarbackle3363 Klay and Wiggins is a different problem. Wiseman could be their 15th player, making the minimum and taking a spot that doesn't play any minutes anyway. If he works out then someday he could be an upgrade over Loon.
🤡 he's not that good man. stop being emotionally attached to him cuz we drafted him.
He's still only what 22... Hey him on the right team that doesn't have a logjam at center and he's perfectly capable of backing up any center in the NBA and could start on young teams in need of a legit center.... Maybe he's just athletic and has no bball IQ
I think the Hawks or the Wizards would be good for him
lol golden state is not resigning him even on a min contract.
Why would they? Dude is a liability. If you want to make the team worse go for it 😂. Its already Steph Vs Everyone.
@@MOBSquadGaming . he ends the video saying that he hopes wiseman is availabe on min contract so golden state picks him up. that is such a bad take. wiseman is not worth vet min. golden state needs more shooting and firepower, not a non-shotting center.
Wow what a take at the end. Watch they take him back and then he proves he is…… a bust lol
lol warriors got tjd. and podz puts up more of a fight in rebounding than wiseman ever did and hes a slow 6 4 guard.
How can you average 5.8 fouls per game?
Bulls really fumbled picking pat williams
"Nursing an 18 game losing streak..." damn
Advance metrics can make anyone look terrible
I guess Monty Williams just isn't good at developing his big men and keeping them engaged...
back to golden state?
lol!
Warriors should've got melo they knew at the time he was better than melo.even if they didn't want melo drafting him and flipping him for assets would have been way better
James wiseman and Patrick Williams
His defense is bad, check his def rating
I’m surprised the Pistons haven’t fired Monty Williams yet.