Tavernier to Trabzonspor: The latest
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Tav should've been sold when he said he cant play with fans in the stands
Agreed and he was telling the truth as when the fans came back his bottle went again. Him and goldson are cut from the exact same cloth in that regard, they can not any way shape or form deal with the pressure from the fans.
I watched a podcast Goldson was on and what I took away from it is that he is basically happy with the 55 medal instead of wanting more success. Shite mentality to have at this club.
As explained Sterling will replace him in that position but boy oh boy did Tav score some glorious goals for the club, Absolutely will never be forgotten 🇬🇧
The position is ATTACKING full-back. Sterling may not offer enough going forward to be a viable RB for Rangers.
@@BillyMcMorranthe position is whatever the manager wants it to be, attacking full back doesnt just mean overlapping and crossing the ball, can also mean moving into midfield to let midfielders get further up.
@@michaelshearer5880 The manager wants it to be attacking full-back. That is what he plays. 4-2-31 wide with attacking full-backs. It is the reason we signed Jefte who looks more like a fucking winger than a LB.
Yeah, I know what overlapping and underlapping full-back are 👍🏻
@@BillyMcMorran i agree thats what we played last season, but it clear thats not Yilmaz strength either hes far better coming inside and hes the first choice left back. To me he wants the option of having either so because sterling isnt the overlapping one doesnt mean he isnt a “viable” rb for rangers.
As far as im concerned we need to build from the back and that means 4 defenders who can DEFEND. A fullback who has the quality of tav going forward but could defend wouldn’t be anywhere near scottish football. We need a right winger to take over from tavs numbers - not a right back.
A back 4 of absolute resolute defenders plus Butland is what we should be aiming for. Walters teams were built from the back. Leave the goals to players from middle to front with the odd centre half header from corners. Simple.
@@ml6cut463 Football isn’t played that way anymore. Walter’s teams would get fucking hammered in the modern game.
@@BillyMcMorranAway you go and don't talk guff. Walters teams would not get smashed. His teams would be smashing Celtic and this league. Barcelona with prime Messi couldn't smash Walters team. Walter is a legend. End of. His teams were phenomenal.
@@BillyMcMorran The modern game 😂😂😂 can play the game any way you please, “Just find a way to win” was what he used to say when asked how he racked up the Titles. Over complicated now. Clough was even better at it. Told the wingers to stick to crossing, the strikers to stick to getting on the end of crosses, the defenders to stop the attacks ect.
so SICK of years of bringing kids through and not giving them a game. They are more well rounded and professional than their older players. we MUST play them. they have never LET US DOWN. outwith the top 3, there is no reason not to play a kid in every 11. WE HAVE SOLD TWO PLAYERS for a profit in all the time I can remember. Patterson, and of course Bassey. and their combined 30 Million has probably meant the Youth Development has broke even over last 6 years- that is a disgrace.
we used to sign best young scottish players. now we sign anybody BUT. IM so sick of all the Bullsht we get fed by the club and commentators.
If Clement falls 6 points behind by october the same PC worshippers who have called him the next JC will call for his head.
The only numbers that matter isn’t an individual achievement- it’s a club achievement and Tav has been the worst captain trophy wise. Brutal but true
In Tavernier's 9 years at Rangers he's only lifted 3 trophies , not a good trophy record for a Rangers Captain. .
Pee poor record of titles. Thats the one that really matters.
@@rangersnut Shhh don't speak the truth, you'll be attacked by the fans who support tav first and the club 2nd. Trust me, theres many of them.
@yogaflame7884 exactly mate.
Let’s be honest we will miss Tavs goals but his defending has been gradually on a downward trend over the last couple of years. If he does go then we are going to need goals from all other areas of the pitch. Tav has saved us a lot of points over the last years with vital penalties, free kicks etc. still I agree that it’s the right time for him to move on.
Whoever our 10 and wingers are will need to score more this season, as well as all our strikers. Even the CDMs and CBs should chip in with some goals as well ideally.
He should never have been taking free kicks and pens anyway. Other players will pick up the slack and we can get an actual defender. He is a failure, time to go.
@@r3co0why shouldn’t he be taking pens and free kicks.stop talking shite
@dnz7558 Strikers should be hitting the pens, call me old fashioned but goals build confidence, which in turn leads to more outfield goals. It's not too hard to comprehend.
You do get the occasional defender hitting them but I'd hazard a guess at over 95% are taken by forwards.
Over the years you've had Tav running and taking the ball to hit corners and whip ball off of creative players for pens and free kicks who could also be chipping in with numbers. If Clement sees him as a weak link, which he is, then I'm all for it.
@@r3co0 100% mate. Tavs taking the throw ins and everything at both sides of the pitch. Madness
James Tavernier was nominated for Scotland’s POTY last season, 12 MOTM awards in the league, highest average match rating of any player last season (even O’Reily) in the SPFL. Tavernier was named in the Team of the Season as the best Rb in the country with the most appearances for any outfield player. He will leave as one of the last remaining player at Rangers with any experience of winning the league. A very sad day, and I hope Tavernier lights up whatever club are lucky to get him. I have enjoyed watching Tavernier for many years and it is sad someone of his ability is leaving, and we are unlikely to find one again in our lifetimes. Deserves his place in the hall of fame and will always be a legend for retiring Rangers place at the top of Scottish football, and taking us to a major European final.
Sorry the fans were so horrible to you, Tavernier. You deserved better.
Many of those MOTM where against Celtic
@@robertmclean3612 This is the type of rhetoric people used when chasing Malik Tillman out of our club. How many goals did Tillman get against Celtic? Some even accused him of faking an injury against Celtic in a cup match. Ow the same clowns like you, obsessed with Celtic, only want to know what Tavernier has done against Celtic. Tavernier has scored 3 of the last 5 goals we have scored at Parkhead. Two of those goals were world class frees kicks past Joe Hart. I know you want to blame James Tavernier for everything but everything isn’t his fault. It won’t all magically get fixed when he leaves. People like you are toxic to this club and are actually damaging the institution as a whole. If you can it do anything but slag our team off, our legends off, then just go away.
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You loved Beale as well. Good riddance to Tav. He can't defend well, which like it or not is a part of his job as an attacking full back and these wonderful deliveries, where were those deliveries for most of last season? Most of his corners and crosses went straight into the keepers arms over and over. Others can take penalties and free kicks as well. Time for a new era. Bring it on. Finally we can unite as a support and get positivity going as well. The battle scarred and fearful play will be out the door, if we can get Goldson and Tav out, Davies as well hopefully, and Matondo and Wright. Do that and our fortunes can actually change. We might see a team under Clement that can actually have a go.
Go get Max Johnston as backup right back, really liked him when he was at Motherwell
We need an attacking RB that can attack and have the balance to also defend well, meaning tracking back with pace and being athletic and having good positional awareness. Sterling is well capable of that. Also we have Devine who can cover as well. Though I don't know how much the manager rates Devine. He might go and bring in another experienced RB. If Tav goes I wish him well. He has given his all effort wise and had some real highs as well as lows. So I can respect his efforts for us. Finally getting some change to old faces makes me way less grumpy.
Sterling and Devine will be just fine for us. Devine is an U21 regular internationalist and had a good 5 months at Motherwell there
McKinnon can also play there so can king
Agreed, i can possibly see the club dipping into the loan market for right back cover or picking up a free transfer. But maybe not, sterling and devine might be viewed as all we need who knows
Exciting to think sterling will be the starting RB he looked brilliant last season considering he was always out of position. Wonder who will be next captain, butland is the only one who stands out to me
This is phenomenal news. Good riddance. Hopefully he goes and Goldson follows. Absolutely rotten at defending and they have fell apart against Celtic too many times now at the business end of the season. If we can get rid we might actually have a chance of a title and at minimum renewed optimism for something fresh that can build and grow going forward. Hearing the same tired excuses from these two does my head in. I might actually get to enjoy being a Rangers fan again.
Best news in ages Tavernier possibly leaving.
He shirks the press conferences which is part of the problem
When we lost the league, he had Dessers go and face the music rather than himself as captain.
Tav scored some tremendous goals but his defending is why we have always fell short, and i for one will not miss him.
If money is right and only money is right for the club then it’s time for him to go will be missed but the club need money and players out so hope Tav isn’t the only one to leave in next cpl of weeks.
Injury problems that Sterling has would be a concern, especially if we only have Devine as backup.
Devine is decent sure he wouldn't let us down when called upon 👍
Shankland is an absolute must,couldn’t care if no re sale value,now and then you have to step outside the model,he’s the best striker in the country by an absolute mile
If Rangers meant anything to Tav, he would do the right thing and leave. He must know Rangers need the finances to carry on moving forward in the right direction. I understand that he has done so much for the club and scored the goals etc, some of them goals being vital too. But the reality is, we need the money. What with his age, getting anything near 3 or 4 million would be incredible. So unfortunately, I would think, he will be on his way soon enough.
Money at board room level has nothing to do with Tavernier. Tavernier is just a player. Why aren’t you calling for Butland to do the right think and leave because Rangers need the money from his sale?
@@BillyMcMorran because Butland is actually a quality player and can continue to add valuation to himself in a year or two. Can’t say the same for tav
@@Damz___zignore that Muppet mate.
@@Damz___zagreed mate
Agreed deal for traori but we need to sell to complete it, he is top notch just get it paid B4 he goes else where
£3.5m if we are lucky.
Ajax last week sterling was at RB
Igamane injured wat doing walking the dog or something.how the feck are we buying a player who is injured. Need to go and get shankland.
We dont need a RB to emulate Tavs numbers. We need forwards and midfielders and to sign wingers that do. The reality is that Tav was injured in February when we got over the line for 55. FACT. Also if a player takes every set piece throw-in and penalty of course his numbers are better than anyone else. Thanks for the memories (i think) but this is a blessing in disguise. We had Tav. That other mhob had Paul mcstay. Things will improve now.
Itll be a sad day if tav does go but you cant help but think it may be the right time to go. Great servant to club but ultimately just didnt have it to go and get what this club needs
Trabzon recruitment defo on mushrooms
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You can see in the past year Tavernier has lost a yard of pace. It is clear teams target him and his defensive weaknesses. With Sterling at RB the squad will be a lot more balanced defensively.
I think Rangers are in a way more worse state than most are admitting (or willing to say out loud) Things are really bad right now.
When is it the rangers manager press conference today
Been on holiday for a week with complete radio silence. A week further toward and the club seem absolutely no further pressed Han when I left. Depressing
Good morning from Montenego
Watt it like in Montenegro inyerested
@@bobbyfindlay6863 Yeah good but I prefer Croatia Dubrovinik old town is amazing.
I actually really don't support the idea that Sterling is a natural replacement for Tav. I'd much rather we permanently converted him into a 6, as I think he's got the potential to be an absolutely superb holding midfielder. For right back, we need a young, attacking and energetic right back. Sterling is better in a more defensive system as a fullback, IMO.
I would have thought £3M for Tav is good money for a 32 year old.Especially as we know his defensive skills are poor.
Do a combined deal Tav and Goldson for £5M .
Its time to look for a big money investor into Rangers. There has to be someone who wants to be involved.
20 penalties last year he missed 5. But the forwards can take the penalties.
Strikers, wingers and even our 10 should be able and willing to hit penalties and the free kicks. Maybe even Jefte or Ridvan.
What price is rangers looking for ? It’s not under 8 -9 million surely
We need centre backs first spend the tav money on them first
Don’t think we should be accepting much less than 5m for tav, will be interesting to see if Sterling can reach even half the stats tav did every season
Sterling isn’t an attacking fullback, he’ll get a fraction of those goals/assists. However he is better defensively, so we will concede fewer goals.
@@Demondoink1 here’s hoping but the fact we’ve relied on tav for goals in recent seasons we need someone like for like and I’m not stupid enough to think we’ll get someone that will get the same numbers as tav but like I said if Sterling gets half the numbers tav got I’ll be happy. Most fullbacks these days are attacking I just don’t think he’s played enough at full back yet for us to see what he can do. I’m sure Sterling started the cup game against Morton at home last season at full back and got up and down the wing all night and put some decent crosses in as well.
@@chrisbeer8498Yilmaz was £4m and he has 2 goals in 2 years. We will never be able to replace what Tavernier gives us. Rangers will just be a worse team when he leaves.
Will we even sign a winger who can replace his goals and deliveries? Who knows. This club is a basket case.
5 million 😂 we will be lucky to get 1 millions he’s terrible
@@ArcherTheGolfer So terrible that the professional footballers of the SPFL nominated him for Scotland’s POTY? Sounds odd.
Tbh I think Sterling is better in midfield than at right back. However, we just have to get him in the team either way. I’d definitely take Patterson back- whether that be on loan or permanently. Dyche clearly doesn’t rate him, probably because he is an attacking player as opposed to a turgid, defensive one that he seems to love.
If we got £5m for Tav then that would be a good deal. Hopefully that money could be spent on Sima.
It's nothing to do with dyche not fancying him he played Patterson when Patterson was fit he's just injured all the time
I thought we let young Devine go
I hope this isn’t a be careful what you wish for moment. If the fee allows us to bring in a quality player then I’m for it but I’m worried his goals and assists will be missed. If Tav does go his fee needs to be used to bring in a starting 11 player, we can’t gamble on a development player when taking away these type of numbers out the squad.
A new era and new generation are needed. Rather than looking at every season knowing how it will go with the same tired faces, we can at minimum at least ponder potential and have some excitement to see how we can progress and move forward. This, to me, symbolises taking steps to move forward rather than standing still. This will heal and unite a lot of the negativity and bring back renewed optimism.
B careful what u wish for.
If a Saudi club paid £10 million for TAV and gave him 4 x his wages i'd have said I wish he could stay but would have wished him well. but a few million to Trabzonspor makes no sense. He's been our top goalscorer for a good few seasons and would cost a lot to replace. Is he a great RB NO. is he a BAD RB no. when there are poor performances he often gets the blame- and it is USUALLY a lot of TEAM performances that fell short NOT just him. and for every poor performance tht YOU COULD ARGUE cost us 3 points there were 10 where HE scored goals from nowhere to rescue THOSE POINTS. His goals in Europe got us to the final.
IF he was moved to RM as Rickson was - and thrived he would get MORE GOALS and we would hve a better RB behind him.
everyone said Sterling was amazing at Right wing and he was great, and he scored one goal and 2 assists. I LOVE HIM but does ANYBODY THINK that if TAV was RW for same games he would only have scored or assisted in 3 goals? If so you need medicated, 24 hour supervision, in a high security ward.
TAV bleeds blue and will ALWAYS be the man who gives the most in EVERY GAME.
OUR TEAM is not garbage. it has weakspots. we lost the league because of 1 bad week. we NEED to buy 2 or 3 RELIABLE GOALSCORERS AND A CENTRAL DEFENCE and we will beat Celtic simple as that.
all the TAV haters - dont waste your time trying to convince me otherwise. Ive heard the arguments and I dont agree.
He might cost us a few goals but scores FAR MORE.
just coz managers cant use him to the best of his talents isnt his fault.
WATCH last season. TAV saved our asses on a dozen occassions. IT WAS POOR STRIKE RETURNS from rubbish forwards, and wobbly central defence of Goldson, Souttar were far more to blame.
WE DONT NEED BLOODY MIDFIELDERS. SIGN shankland AND ANOTHER 2 .
Beale lost our strikers and signed DUDS. we got Lost Colak , and got Dessers for Morelos and Lammers for SAKALA. thats what did the damage.
Tav is the best dead ball specialist since Gaza and Coop. NOBODY scored more free kicks than TAV -
There will never be another TAV and the ONLY Trophy we won was a TAV winner against Aberdeen.
You make him sound like Roberto Carlos.He was a good signing at £600K but I never thought he was a Great Captain.After 9 years at Rangers ,it's time for him (and Goldson) to move on..No player is bigger than the Club.
Our squad in its current make up is an absolute disgrace. If anyone thinks we’re challenging for the league this think again. Butland,diomande,sterling are thé only 3 players good enough to be here.
I’d be surprised if it was anymore than 3 mil for Tav. Don’t get your hopes up
Stop reminiscing,, his age his record,, it’s time to go,, probably too late , and should have traded him two years ago. Freshen up this team. It’s about the team not the player.
How do we know Sterling is a better RB if he hasnt played there?
Can't possibly be any worse
Nathan Patterson
Invincible 55
Who takes set pieces, wont be more than £2 million
Whoever feels like it I guess. Once Tavernier leave the quality of delivery will be much poorer and Youkll be less likely to see Rangers scoring from a free-kick until we find someone like him again, when he came through the door and offered us a dead ball specialist it was much needed at that time. I think many have taken it for granted.
@@BillyMcMorranwhat percentage of free kicks does he score and he scored 15 penalties out of 20 last season that isn't a dead ball specialist
@@chris-mc4dg Look at the amount of goals James Tavernier scores from free-kicks and penalties. Look at the amount of goals that come as a result of his deliveries from set-pieces. James Tavernier is one of the best set-piece takers in the history of Rangers football club. He scored two world class free-kicks against Joe Hart in the last two seasons. Tavernier had multiple goal of the season contenders last year after just a few weeks. Last minute winner against Servette, League winner against Aberdeen, guy was running from his own half and putting them in the top corners. Unreal.
@@BillyMcMorran you are saying look at these numbers but providing nothing for me to look at I just told you he scored 15 out of 20 penalties last season that isn't a specialist how many free kicks and corners percentage wise from tavernier lead to a goal if you can't provide numbers to back up your point then you are just blowing bubbles you do realise we have an average of 13 corners a game and we scored 4 goals from corners last season.
Take 13 pound for Tav
What's the prices two million or 8 million ?? Come on boys tell us the whole story lol 😅
Pay him off just get rid of the guy .
I'm beginning to dislike him now
Why manu we can’t beat rosscounty
Bring Patterson back on loan lol .
They will screw the fans over by accepting an un disclosed fee.
Disappointed 😂😂😂
How edifying to have a "Journalist" unable to pronounce a 3 syllable word that in itself is the simplest example of phonetics.
Is the Dumbing Down of Society real?
"Is the Dumbing Down of Society real?" - Possibly, your comment is an example.
@@J.D_7 Ouch! You got me there!
You really are the genius wordsmith of the Glasgow Herald after all!