Great to see a tech tour/booth makeover from a church that is not a mega church. Puts things in much more of a useable and relatable context. Thank you.
We also just did a major renovation to our stage and av booth this week. And the biggest move is upgrading from analog mixer to Behringer x32. Really excited and nervous on setting it up.
Awesome. Congrats on the X32 upgrade! If you are looking for a fast-track to getting it all set up, that's what X32 Mastery is all about. Learn more at x32.church
We got an x32 last year, and other than the power supply blowing up and taking 5 months to get fixed, everyone just loves it. A Pearl2 for video and 3 Panasonic PTZ cameras. I hate to say it but if it wasn't for COVID, I doubt that the congregation would have spent the money. Oh yah, BACKUP YOUR FINAL CONFIGURATION TO A USB STICK. I didn't and when the board came back, I had to manually reload everything 😞
Hey Dylan and Kade this was an awesome video and it really showcased a nice, new and fresh workstation. You both put on "The Best" videos for churches across the country to learn and grow for A/V technology! Our church would not have a live stream that was worth its weight to the viewers if it wasn't for your meticulous video tutorials in the member section of CW. Since I am a member of Collaborate Worship (CW) I use it all the time to train our new A/V volunteers / members on our Midas M32 console. Your CW site is invaluable to small churches around the country and I thank you both for your continued support with these videos and important sound engineering tips. P.S. I am also in the process of using Vocal Tuning for our live stream based on a video guest talk you had a few months ago. Keep these inspiration videos coming! God Bless!
Definitely would like to know more about your livestream, we are also using the ATEM and OBS, we are looking into RESI soon. We use ProPresenter so hopefully it will be a good fit
WoW... Thats a nice video right in time, as i'm also to be about to do such an makeover for our FoH. This video simply confirmed my own planing and design which we are about to install in the coming days...
Hi Dylan and Kade. Really enjoy your work, and the blogs and videos. Noted you are looking at maybe StreamDeck. Our streaming setup an ATEM Television Studio and we use OBS as the streamer (and also use ProPresenter 7). I am a TV Engineer, so my life has been working in this environment. But our team is very amateur and volunteers, so we introduced bit-by-bit some StreamDecks. The first was a 5x3 switch. It worked well, but then I added Companion software and discovered I could use the StreamDeck to control the ATEM, the Hyperdeck, as well as OBS, and we could start to run several functions off a single StreamDeck button press. We added a second StreamDeck XL (8x4) and integrated the ATEM and OBS, and then also discovered we could interface with the PTZ cameras as well - so we added another StreamDeck XL, and then also built in the integration with ProPresenter 7. We can also integrate with the X32, and we use that to mute floor foldbacks, and even the livestream audio if needed. So now we can, with a single button press, complete a number of required functions that in a live environment would need 2 people, or would create stress and anxiety: the single button press can (for example) select the input from the ATEM, select a scene from OBS, and play a video, or a slide (or combination of slides) from ProPresenter. And of course, the actual functions on each device still work fine in case of a failure of the Companion Software or StreamDeck appliance. That is without doubt the best set of additions to the Control Room since we started live streaming. The controls are easy and integrate most of the control surfaces into a single panel (or panels) if necessary. I highly recommend that path as an easy transition for volunteers!!! Happy to send pics of our setup if you are interested. I(We are a small church - congregation ~ 50-70 in these post-covid lockdown days)
This is great! I've used a stream desk for small home studio operations and love it. It is definitely something we want to implement at church, just like you have explained. I'd love to see pictures of your setup. Send them to kade at collaborateworship.com
I don't know why I didn't think of cable ties for all the cords in the booth! I do that on stage! I'll be using that when I finally get around to updating our booth... I've already delayed for five months, so I get how it can be hard!
We got an x32 last year, and other than the power supply blowing up and taking 5 months to get fixed, everyone just loves it. A Pearl2 for video and 3 Panasonic PTZ cameras. I hate to say it but if it wasn't for COVID, I doubt that the congregation would have spent the money. Oh yah, BACKUP YOUR FINAL CONFIGURATION TO A USB STICK. I didn't and when the board came back, I had to manually reload everything 😞
We used one of these: www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Mount-Under-Black-BK-MABM/dp/B082XHZLQ8/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UIFCDUQKUO8Z&keywords=mac+mini+desk+mount&qid=1685133211&sprefix=mac+mini+desk+moun%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-3
Our church is out in the country with no high speed internet access. Streaming over 2 cans connected by a string just does not cut it. However our area is in line to get fiber internet sometime in 2022 so we will be able to stream our services. So, I would love to see something a little more in depth using ATEM. We record our services now but do not have the capability to include the pastor's PPT slides other than panning the PTZ camera back and forth between a screen and the pulpit. Recording is happening on one Mac while PowerPoint is running from another Mac. I've been told ATEM is the way to go.
You could use OBS running on a Laptop or Desktop to integrate your camera feed with slides, and can do picture in picture etc. Once your fibre is in place, you can just add a streaming destination in your OBS (free software) to immediately deliver to your end destination (youtube, Facebook or web-page) Certainly, the ATEM can do it also, but as a first option, you could try OBS and get a feel for what it can do for free before committing to a hardware device.
I second what Paul said. OBS can do what you are looking for. The difference between OBS and ATEM is OBS is software-based switching whereas ATEM is hardware-based. So, you'll need a decent computer for OBS. We have it in our queue to create videos on both, so make sure you are subscribed to our email list so we can let you know: collaborate-worship.ck.page/b77b3798c9
Hey, I am head of A/V at St. Paul Thorndale, Tx and we are in need of some upgrades. Our sound booth is basically a hole in the wall to a small room in the back of the sanctuary. We have an upstairs space (Choir Loft) but that is where our organ is and it wouldn't be great for sound. Not much space between the back of the sanctuary and the first row of pews. We are working on upgrading our live streaming setup and could use some recommendations but the real problem is the space. Any Ideas?
Do you have a preference for playing tracks from your PC to Behringer X32. I am currently using Windows Media Player. I have been trying to find a better software to do this with. I constantly have guests singers come in 5 minutes before service and lay down a handful of cd’s. Windows Media Player is not the best at ripping tracks off and putting them in order. Just feel like there is a better way of doing this. Nice setup!
😂 I'm gonna start adding a text animation to the beginning of the videos that I'm in, that say... I'm Dillon, Kade's beardless brother (And yes this is my voice, not Kade's)
Lol. The bearded guy is Kade (the one writing this comment). Dillon (in this video) is my younger brother. We look quite alike and sound even closer. So I definitely get the confusion. :)
$100 each for the chairs? To be spending this much money when it can go to the needy, how absurd. Or, how many bibles could be given out for this price? What about the hungry roaming the streets?
You talk as if God has a limited supply of resources. Far from the truth. Trust me, God can handle buying a few chairs while continuing to care for the needy. -Kade
Great to see a tech tour/booth makeover from a church that is not a mega church.
Puts things in much more of a useable and relatable context. Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
We also just did a major renovation to our stage and av booth this week. And the biggest move is upgrading from analog mixer to Behringer x32. Really excited and nervous on setting it up.
Awesome. Congrats on the X32 upgrade! If you are looking for a fast-track to getting it all set up, that's what X32 Mastery is all about. Learn more at x32.church
We got an x32 last year, and other than the power supply blowing up and taking 5 months to get fixed, everyone just loves it. A Pearl2 for video and 3 Panasonic PTZ cameras. I hate to say it but if it wasn't for COVID, I doubt that the congregation would have spent the money. Oh yah, BACKUP YOUR FINAL CONFIGURATION TO A USB STICK. I didn't and when the board came back, I had to manually reload everything 😞
very nice
Thanks!
Hey Dylan and Kade this was an awesome video and it really showcased a nice, new and fresh workstation. You both put on "The Best" videos for churches across the country to learn and grow for A/V technology! Our church would not have a live stream that was worth its weight to the viewers if it wasn't for your meticulous video tutorials in the member section of CW. Since I am a member of Collaborate Worship (CW) I use it all the time to train our new A/V volunteers / members on our Midas M32 console. Your CW site is invaluable to small churches around the country and I thank you both for your continued support with these videos and important sound engineering tips. P.S. I am also in the process of using Vocal Tuning for our live stream based on a video guest talk you had a few months ago. Keep these inspiration videos coming! God Bless!
Awesome - thanks Jim! It's an honor to be a part of your journey with church sound.
Definitely would like to know more about your livestream, we are also using the ATEM and OBS, we are looking into RESI soon. We use ProPresenter so hopefully it will be a good fit
Awesome! Thanks for letting us know. Hope that RESI works out for ya! - Dillon
WoW... Thats a nice video right in time, as i'm also to be about to do such an makeover for our FoH.
This video simply confirmed my own planing and design which we are about to install in the coming days...
Great to hear!
Hi Dylan and Kade. Really enjoy your work, and the blogs and videos.
Noted you are looking at maybe StreamDeck. Our streaming setup an ATEM Television Studio and we use OBS as the streamer (and also use ProPresenter 7). I am a TV Engineer, so my life has been working in this environment. But our team is very amateur and volunteers, so we introduced bit-by-bit some StreamDecks. The first was a 5x3 switch. It worked well, but then I added Companion software and discovered I could use the StreamDeck to control the ATEM, the Hyperdeck, as well as OBS, and we could start to run several functions off a single StreamDeck button press. We added a second StreamDeck XL (8x4) and integrated the ATEM and OBS, and then also discovered we could interface with the PTZ cameras as well - so we added another StreamDeck XL, and then also built in the integration with ProPresenter 7. We can also integrate with the X32, and we use that to mute floor foldbacks, and even the livestream audio if needed. So now we can, with a single button press, complete a number of required functions that in a live environment would need 2 people, or would create stress and anxiety: the single button press can (for example) select the input from the ATEM, select a scene from OBS, and play a video, or a slide (or combination of slides) from ProPresenter. And of course, the actual functions on each device still work fine in case of a failure of the Companion Software or StreamDeck appliance.
That is without doubt the best set of additions to the Control Room since we started live streaming. The controls are easy and integrate most of the control surfaces into a single panel (or panels) if necessary. I highly recommend that path as an easy transition for volunteers!!! Happy to send pics of our setup if you are interested. I(We are a small church - congregation ~ 50-70 in these post-covid lockdown days)
This is great! I've used a stream desk for small home studio operations and love it. It is definitely something we want to implement at church, just like you have explained. I'd love to see pictures of your setup. Send them to kade at collaborateworship.com
Looks good dude! Super clean
Thank Zach!
You hooked me when you added the LED strip. 😆. We could all use a little more light.
😂 no doubt
I'm very interested in the livestream content!
Hey do you guys happen to have the smematics for that build? Thanks!
Looks Great. Soon I’ll be working on something similar so is good to get some ideas. 👍🏽💯
Do you guys have a detailed video about the build of the desk or the likes?
We don't... Sorry. Should of done some more documentation.
I don't know why I didn't think of cable ties for all the cords in the booth! I do that on stage! I'll be using that when I finally get around to updating our booth... I've already delayed for five months, so I get how it can be hard!
New Sub. Excited to learn more abt live streaming.
Thanks for the sub! What are you trying to learn about live streaming?
Also could you do a video on the lighting for the stage at your events hall
We got an x32 last year, and other than the power supply blowing up and taking 5 months to get fixed, everyone just loves it. A Pearl2 for video and 3 Panasonic PTZ cameras. I hate to say it but if it wasn't for COVID, I doubt that the congregation would have spent the money. Oh yah, BACKUP YOUR FINAL CONFIGURATION TO A USB STICK. I didn't and when the board came back, I had to manually reload everything 😞
Can you do a video about that airplay from the stage? Curious how that works
Sure thing. We can probably make a short about it. - Dillon
Definitely be interested in livestream setup
Great video! Just wondering about securing your equipment? Do you cover it or lock it? We love the design but this a concern for us.
Nope, it's not a big concern. We've never had an issue with it being messed with. It's all replaceable though 🤷♂
How were you able to secure the Mac mini underneath the desk? It looks really cool.
We used one of these: www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Mount-Under-Black-BK-MABM/dp/B082XHZLQ8/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3UIFCDUQKUO8Z&keywords=mac+mini+desk+mount&qid=1685133211&sprefix=mac+mini+desk+moun%2Caps%2C124&sr=8-3
We switched to software Lighting software and Automate the light with midi from Pro Presenter. Works great :)
Good to know! Might have to try it out. Which Pro Presenter version are you using?
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Our church is out in the country with no high speed internet access. Streaming over 2 cans connected by a string just does not cut it. However our area is in line to get fiber internet sometime in 2022 so we will be able to stream our services. So, I would love to see something a little more in depth using ATEM. We record our services now but do not have the capability to include the pastor's PPT slides other than panning the PTZ camera back and forth between a screen and the pulpit. Recording is happening on one Mac while PowerPoint is running from another Mac. I've been told ATEM is the way to go.
You could use OBS running on a Laptop or Desktop to integrate your camera feed with slides, and can do picture in picture etc. Once your fibre is in place, you can just add a streaming destination in your OBS (free software) to immediately deliver to your end destination (youtube, Facebook or web-page)
Certainly, the ATEM can do it also, but as a first option, you could try OBS and get a feel for what it can do for free before committing to a hardware device.
I second what Paul said. OBS can do what you are looking for. The difference between OBS and ATEM is OBS is software-based switching whereas ATEM is hardware-based. So, you'll need a decent computer for OBS. We have it in our queue to create videos on both, so make sure you are subscribed to our email list so we can let you know: collaborate-worship.ck.page/b77b3798c9
Hey, I am head of A/V at St. Paul Thorndale, Tx and we are in need of some upgrades. Our sound booth is basically a hole in the wall to a small room in the back of the sanctuary. We have an upstairs space (Choir Loft) but that is where our organ is and it wouldn't be great for sound. Not much space between the back of the sanctuary and the first row of pews. We are working on upgrading our live streaming setup and could use some recommendations but the real problem is the space. Any Ideas?
Can you get away with sacrificing some seating to build a booth right in the back of the seating arrangement? (like we have ours in the video)
Just got word that we are moving into the room next to us, which is much bigger, so thats all good. Just working on the list now...
Can I please get the link for the platforms or could you tell me what size you got?
They are 3ft by 8ft and 16in tall. And we use two of them
I like to sound booth where is making sir
I'm needing some ideas/help for sound booth for small church (congregation 125)
You can shoot me any questions over email: dillon@collaborateworship.com
How large is your confidence display and how deep is the sanctuary? I'm wondering how we can best use one in our church
We used a TV we had available. It is 45". However, it could be a bit bigger. Probaly 60" would be more appropriate. It is about 45' from the stage.
Do you have a preference for playing tracks from your PC to Behringer X32. I am currently using Windows Media Player. I have been trying to find a better software to do this with. I constantly have guests singers come in 5 minutes before service and lay down a handful of cd’s. Windows Media Player is not the best at ripping tracks off and putting them in order. Just feel like there is a better way of doing this. Nice setup!
We are currently using MultiTracks Playback app on an iPad to run our tracks. It works great!
It’s cool
Thank you!
omg i throught dylan was just some dude with a voiceover of cade who just called his name dylan😂😂😂
😂 I'm gonna start adding a text animation to the beginning of the videos that I'm in, that say...
I'm Dillon, Kade's beardless brother
(And yes this is my voice, not Kade's)
the confidence monitor isnt level
Yep... Subwoofer caused the cable it's attached to to move slightly. Doesn't bother any of us on stage though, so haven't messed with it lol. -Dillon
hey Kade, what church is this?
NoLimits Church in Owasso, OK
I miss the beard Dylan 🥴
Lol. The bearded guy is Kade (the one writing this comment). Dillon (in this video) is my younger brother. We look quite alike and sound even closer. So I definitely get the confusion. :)
$100 each for the chairs? To be spending this much money when it can go to the needy, how absurd. Or, how many bibles could be given out for this price? What about the hungry roaming the streets?
You talk as if God has a limited supply of resources. Far from the truth. Trust me, God can handle buying a few chairs while continuing to care for the needy. -Kade