I assume there are supplier costs that at initial production they cannot get around. That being said, if they could get a big investor who can help them ramp up at a high initial loss without issue…
Kind of a lame to attack someone with an accident they had. And yes, Chinese will shave the price. Because that's all they can do. Their suppressing government kills all the freedom that people need to come up with ideas like this. These inventions always sprout in free countries. Then the Chinese copy it and sell it cheaper.
Chinese companies often stole thing and barely spent on research, then cheap materials and production which shave off the price tag. Kim is a Korean name and often a target for Chinese companies to steal as well like with the fold screen.
This only has active safty, if the gyro fails, then what? You know they tried this 100 years ago with a single rail train right? It's not a new idea, so not quite sure how he got a patent for it but anyway. You cant sell a bike/car without "passive safty" (a motorbike ultimatly has a person's foot) in the case of a car, it has four wheels. Even a tricycle doesn't just fall over. Reliying on active balance gives no such passive safety. That, over engineering & the extra (unessesary) power needed for the gyro make this DOA for the mass market I think. You can still do narrow track 3 & four-wheel vehicles without active balance, so why don't you see those often? The price (32,000) is ludicrous & reflects the complexity & over engineering. Getting through regulation is the other cost/problem. Just go with narrow track two front wheels or even four wheels, similar results, easier to engineer, less cost, known tech, passive safety & roughly the same form factor is possible. Also, Gyros are loud in operation probably. That's why you never get a sound track on these clips. Sounds like a lawnmower
@@jarjarbinks3193 sadly you are right, this is the thing I always complain about tesla and most electric vehicle brands. I dont know, it must be an economic reason on why doing an affordable, simple, efficient and cheap electric vehicle is not convenient for most companies. Maybe this would force them to manufacture these by millions creating other issues for the company in ways I can not imagine (like lacking of batteries) Who knows, but I guess is time, someone should start with that.
the aptera ev is more stable an its aerodynamic an self charging making it better an around the same price rage. its just the battery bank with all parts put it into 25g an this new ev is around 31 with the tech in it so thats why i think you should look into the apptera.
@@jeremyschultz4731 Aptera will be 50% more expensive. Aptera has the ideal aerodynamical shape. C-1 has 2 wheels only: Great. C-1 would be fantastic for services of all kind. Disadvantage: You need a motorcycle license which does not make sense. If the Gyroskop fails you can not drive at all. So you do not need the cycle driver's knowledge.
There's always going to be people who enjoy riding motorcycles. That one is ideal for UK weather 😅 Then there's this for the sunnier climes…ruclips.net/video/Jtb--bxXd2U/видео.htmlsi=JAtagYe5NYGypdFz
As an EV solution, this would need to have a reverse gear for parking, it's own parking bays for charging and it must be able to be driven on a car licence in UK/Europe and the USA etc for mass market appeal.
Europe and America are afraid that the car market will collapse, but if it is China, they are not afraid and will crush the car market and compete with it. If there is something new that makes the old things better, they should change.
CATL, or BYD, can sell a vehicle more like the Peraves MonoTracer if they wished. Just change the driving controls from hand operated break and accelerator to pedals. Maybe they can fix the princely price tag issue.
We've been 'WAITING' !!! Even if Danny Kim was in a wheelchair for 5 years, why didn't the crew continue on?? This thing should have been in production a LONG time ago.!! Glad I didn't invest in it. I'd be PISSED.!!
I am willing to bet that NO member of the development team EVER said they wanted to DESTROY the ENTIRE Car Industry! They'll be happy selling a few hundred thousand of these.
If it's smaller with less parts but you make more to satisfy natural demand, does that not equally render the less parts. more space and capacity concept:consideration futile? 1:58
It’s a nice vehicle but you need a good distribution system and dealer support.if you are able sell and produce in the US these would fly off the dealer show room floor. I can see a trike version so you don’t need the balancing system, or do both.with a trike you can have some storage for food shopping.
The Peraves Ecomobile/MonoTracer has been around for many decades without a gyrocope for balance (which is really only needed during very low speeds and stops). They should have attempted to make that platform controls more like a car with break and accelerator pedals not the hand controls) Problem with the MonoTracer was and still is the princely price tag.
It's cool but I'm afraid it has very limited market. A simpler and better alternative is just the good old fashion electric tricycles and we have plenty of them here in China.
I like the concept, but I need a lot more distance. If the Sakuu metal-free batteries become viable, then weight, distance, and cost would line up better. Big if, though.
You could gigacast the whole body by the looks of it. Perhaps make the batteries removable which makes the purchase cost easier. Setup kiosks that you swap the batteries like they have for Scooters in Vietnam / Korea
If 14 years of trying to put this vehicle on the market wasn't enough to reformulate the concept, you guys have no solution. Cheap Carver One is the answer.
I'd predict that tilting of vehicles will get really important and sought after once full self driving arrives as without tilting working on screens or paper causes many severe nausea.
Economies of scale can radically reduce cost. This is the form factor that Waymo needs to adopt in congested cities. It's a waste of energy and road space to have a full size vehicle hauling one person.
Whatttt !! ,they actually bringing back the c1 and tring to get into production this time ? .......they raised the price on it , cause wasn't it in the $20k to $25k somewhere around there yrs ago I think those gyros are going to use alot of power , because not only your going to be using up power when your riding you'll be using the gyros too at the same time because they constantly have to be on until your not riding it , unless they figured out a way on how to use the littlest amount of energy as possible to give it alot of power while still being able to maintain the 100 mile range , either way I want 1
If prices for this hit $10K or less, I could see many families owning two or three of these rather than one car. But in order for this to decimate the car industry it would have to accommodate a family and a dog.
Gorgeous concept, Best if this C1 has Aircondition so it can use with comfort to other countries like asia especially in warm humid part of asia. Hope it will succeed
We will all enjoy watching this brand new concept DESTROY the ENTIRE car industry, which according to YT experts, has been DESTROYED almost daily for some years now.
The C-1 could be a good 'second' vehicle for a family or a 'commuter vehicle'! Besides, Danny Kim should realize that drivers would still think of the C-1 as a motorcycle that cannot legally, 'weave' in & out of traffic! If a separate lane could be 'dedicated' for the C-1, it might work, but now it would be too dangerous for our crowded streets!
Been listening to this pitch for 14 years now....
I've actually seen this kind of vehicle 40 years ago at a car show in Rotterdam, Netherlands.
Oh yeah you two well my great great great great grandmother invented this motorcycle 400yrs ago!!!
Yelp, I'm sure it will take another 14 years to actually see one in production.
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Casey Putsch is making diesel one of these.
At 32K, it is only a plaything for the rich.
Yah 😂 "fewer parts" 🎉 but same price 😢
32k dollars $ means 27 lkh plus not including registration, tax and insurance with GST in India....
If you’re looking to set out on your own and commute, that’s more affordable than a normal car is nowadays. The prices are wrecked nowadays.
At 10K it will kill the car market, not at 32K price! That's why
Was going to post almost the same thing. I think $15k would even do it.
Great for family travel!!
@@rocketmanzimm vahahhahhahaha
5K should be the maximum for a motorcycle. BYD Seagull full electric car is just 11K so this motorcycle shouldn't cost more than a car.
I assume there are supplier costs that at initial production they cannot get around. That being said, if they could get a big investor who can help them ramp up at a high initial loss without issue…
Good luck with finally commercialising the C1 Lit motors.
This gets the vehicle on two wheels awards. Very dynamic & futuristic 👍
Tell him to sell this under $10K. Anything over that doesn't make sense.
The accident really messed up his mind. Give it to the Chinese, they will shave a zero off the price.
I believe "Kim" is a Korean name.
@@gorilladisco9108 That was his point
Kind of a lame to attack someone with an accident they had.
And yes, Chinese will shave the price. Because that's all they can do. Their suppressing government kills all the freedom that people need to come up with ideas like this. These inventions always sprout in free countries. Then the Chinese copy it and sell it cheaper.
Chinese companies often stole thing and barely spent on research, then cheap materials and production which shave off the price tag.
Kim is a Korean name and often a target for Chinese companies to steal as well like with the fold screen.
They shaved off a zero by adding an extra wheel.
The Carver a similar vehicle with 2 rear wheels without the complication of gyroscopes and was expensive...
This only has active safty, if the gyro fails, then what? You know they tried this 100 years ago with a single rail train right? It's not a new idea, so not quite sure how he got a patent for it but anyway. You cant sell a bike/car without "passive safty" (a motorbike ultimatly has a person's foot) in the case of a car, it has four wheels. Even a tricycle doesn't just fall over. Reliying on active balance gives no such passive safety.
That, over engineering & the extra (unessesary) power needed for the gyro make this DOA for the mass market I think. You can still do narrow track 3 & four-wheel vehicles without active balance, so why don't you see those often?
The price (32,000) is ludicrous & reflects the complexity & over engineering. Getting through regulation is the other cost/problem.
Just go with narrow track two front wheels or even four wheels, similar results, easier to engineer, less cost, known tech, passive safety & roughly the same form factor is possible. Also, Gyros are loud in operation probably. That's why you never get a sound track on these clips. Sounds like a lawnmower
That says it sll! End of the silly dream!
You are right.But these guys know they cannot survive the chinese market.So they earn as much as possible in the shortest possible time,and scoot.
We do see a narrow track car - look up the tango, but the price is even more ridiculous 💸
Fantastic concept. This would save so much space on the highways and be very convenient to drive and park. Just needs to be more affordable.
Saving space on the highway can also be achieved by Highspeed bullet train technology which is also, (fully electric)......
LOL, we'll have flying cars before this goes into production!
Exactly 😅
Why do you say that?
I am genuinely curious .
I have been complaining about the Aptera car not coming out for over 20 years
@@albertodesantis739 And you'll continue to complain about it for another 20 years.
@@albertodesantis739 Aptera will have classic status when it comes out:)
@@ta8986 we do!
It would be great if Tesla buys Lit motors and take the product to a more affordable price, because this is exactly what Tesla is lacking.
Tesla and affordability don't go together!
@@jarjarbinks3193 sadly you are right, this is the thing I always complain about tesla and most electric vehicle brands.
I dont know, it must be an economic reason on why doing an affordable, simple, efficient and cheap electric vehicle is not convenient for most companies.
Maybe this would force them to manufacture these by millions creating other issues for the company in ways I can not imagine (like lacking of batteries) Who knows, but I guess is time, someone should start with that.
Tesla losing..
@@ahmagdy81Losing what? Where? Please keep quiet if you have nothing constructive to say.
@@jarjarbinks3193
Especially when it comes to insurance !
Great concept, but man that's pricey! My new 2011 Scion xD cost 18 grand when I bought it. Electric or not, I couldn't justify the expense.
the aptera ev is more stable an its aerodynamic an self charging making it better an around the same price rage. its just the battery bank with all parts put it into 25g an this new ev is around 31 with the tech in it so thats why i think you should look into the apptera.
@@jeremyschultz4731
I'll check into that, thanks.
@@jeremyschultz4731 Aptera will be 50% more expensive. Aptera has the ideal aerodynamical shape. C-1 has 2 wheels only: Great. C-1 would be fantastic for services of all kind. Disadvantage: You need a motorcycle license which does not make sense. If the Gyroskop fails you can not drive at all. So you do not need the cycle driver's knowledge.
We need these in LA now. I only drive 20 miles a day-40 mph in real traffic. Just need space for 2 grocery bags 🍓 and 1 puppy🐕
Cool but $35k is the same price as a premium luxury SUV.
This needs to cost $18k max.
Will it enter production?
Love it, but not at $32k. They need to bring this to the sub-20k market to have a chance.
This company has been an empty sales pitch for 15 years
Real tech. Lost 8 years to an accident and pandemic. Look at the development team. Look at the IP stack - 15 issued USA patents until 2039.
They’re selling t shirts
There's always going to be people who enjoy riding motorcycles. That one is ideal for UK weather 😅 Then there's this for the sunnier climes…ruclips.net/video/Jtb--bxXd2U/видео.htmlsi=JAtagYe5NYGypdFz
I need the awesomeness of a Bike
Plus safety of a Car
Is there no company in the world that can bring this in market?
As an EV solution, this would need to have a reverse gear for parking, it's own parking bays for charging and it must be able to be driven on a car licence in UK/Europe and the USA etc for mass market appeal.
This is very very old technology. Main problem is constant additional energy consumption for gyroscopes and not small weight of gyroscopes.
Its good but some people dont like steering wheel they like bike handle ...
Wow what a fantastic looking vehicle. Hope this goes into production. But the price is to high for the average Joe 👍🏴
Hell No, Musk would ruin it entirely !
It should be economic price, so that common people could buy, particularly Asian countries
Been trying to bring this to market for how many years now?
Europe and America are afraid that the car market will collapse, but if it is China, they are not afraid and will crush the car market and compete with it. If there is something new that makes the old things better, they should change.
nice invention, it's safe and clean to drive in a narrow road
I've known this EV for a long time and really like the styling and technology
Needs to let CATL build and sell it. 9'990.- price. Europe would like it.
CATL, or BYD, can sell a vehicle more like the Peraves MonoTracer if they wished. Just change the driving controls from hand operated break and accelerator to pedals. Maybe they can fix the princely price tag issue.
When it is a three seater, I will be interested. Thanks for the update.
Great idea but that gyro stabilizer will use a heap of energy undoing alot and probably all of the efficiency advantages.....
not at all, once it is started, it doesn't take lots of energy to maintain the spin, but it does add weight and resistance for the motor to overcome
Will it not fall over when the battery goes flat lol
@@marcushull12 It has a kick stand when the gyros are turned off. lol
We've been 'WAITING' !!! Even if Danny Kim was in a wheelchair for 5 years, why didn't the crew continue on?? This thing should have been in production a LONG time ago.!! Glad I didn't invest in it. I'd be PISSED.!!
It will never go to production.
32K is definitely out of my reach, and this is the type of vehicle I need.
I am willing to bet that NO member of the development team EVER said they wanted to DESTROY the ENTIRE Car Industry!
They'll be happy selling a few hundred thousand of these.
Yea I’m sure they are a little more enlightened than that 🤔
응원합니다.
To increase the space, is it not possible to put the motors inside the wheels???
If it's smaller with less parts but you make more to satisfy natural demand, does that not equally render the less parts. more space and capacity concept:consideration futile? 1:58
How do they stack up when raced?
As a prototype it is a good and interesting step forward. As components improve over time who knows…
It’s a nice vehicle but you need a good distribution system and dealer support.if you are able sell and produce in the US these would fly off the dealer show room floor. I can see a trike version so you don’t need the balancing system, or do both.with a trike you can have some storage for food shopping.
Cybertruck needs a new plaything 😂
The Peraves Ecomobile/MonoTracer has been around for many decades without a gyrocope for balance (which is really only needed during very low speeds and stops). They should have attempted to make that platform controls more like a car with break and accelerator pedals not the hand controls) Problem with the MonoTracer was and still is the princely price tag.
China, plz do your thing and bring this to market fast and cheap.
First they have to steal the blue prints. Without any R&D cost sure it can be produced at a lower cost.
yeah, someone's lit.
I've been waiting for this... when will it be available for purchase?
Where it is available ?
We would all love one. When can we get one? I’ve been looking for something like this for years and they’ve just never quite come up to this level.
i've seen this when i was a kid, and now my grand children still can't get it
Where available in Dehradun Uttrakhand
What a great idea, almost exactly the same as Toyota I-Road.
It's cool but I'm afraid it has very limited market. A simpler and better alternative is just the good old fashion electric tricycles and we have plenty of them here in China.
Does it have AC or heat?
I like the concept, but I need a lot more distance. If the Sakuu metal-free batteries become viable, then weight, distance, and cost would line up better. Big if, though.
I can’t believe it’s using a car steering wheel instead of a motorcycle bar-which will give more leg room. 👍🙈
So many years we have waited but no product to buy.
What happens when the battery’s dead?
You could gigacast the whole body by the looks of it. Perhaps make the batteries removable which makes the purchase cost easier. Setup kiosks that you swap the batteries like they have for Scooters in Vietnam / Korea
How many years have it been? Now Honda has come up with their design
When will you put aptera solar on it?
If 14 years of trying to put this vehicle on the market wasn't enough to reformulate the concept, you guys have no solution.
Cheap Carver One is the answer.
Affordable Peraves MonoTracer.
I'd predict that tilting of vehicles will get really important and sought after once full self driving arrives as without tilting working on screens or paper causes many severe nausea.
Is it available in india
Thanks ❤❤❤
Economies of scale can radically reduce cost. This is the form factor that Waymo needs to adopt in congested cities. It's a waste of energy and road space to have a full size vehicle hauling one person.
Dam cool vehicle!
I would be interested if the price drops!
Extend for two persons
200 mile range, 2 person, less than $20,000 and you have a great deal
"Lit Motors promises..." We have heard that too many times I am afraid. Less than zero cred now.
I remember this guy working on this product about 15 years ago. Is it out?
We need this in our life 😙👍
The fact the founder was in a serious two-wheeler accident doesn't inspire confidence in this form factor
Whatttt !! ,they actually bringing back the c1 and tring to get into production this time ? .......they raised the price on it , cause wasn't it in the $20k to $25k somewhere around there yrs ago
I think those gyros are going to use alot of power , because not only your going to be using up power when your riding you'll be using the gyros too at the same time because they constantly have to be on until your not riding it , unless they figured out a way on how to use the littlest amount of energy as possible to give it alot of power while still being able to maintain the 100 mile range , either way I want 1
This is a amazing beauty
It cost more than a Model 3?
Before fusion power ..................?
If prices for this hit $10K or less, I could see many families owning two or three of these rather than one car. But in order for this to decimate the car industry it would have to accommodate a family and a dog.
if he/they can make this AEV for around $10,000 it will sell very well. but the battery tech has to improve
Gorgeous concept, Best if this C1 has Aircondition so it can use with comfort to other countries like asia especially in warm humid part of asia.
Hope it will succeed
I want three
If it is less price it is going to be superhit in India
Check out the Carver. Been around longer and less than half the price
It's going to have a fighting change if the asking price is less than 10k. However it's potential customers will be very limited.
We will all enjoy watching this brand new concept DESTROY the ENTIRE car industry, which according to YT experts, has been DESTROYED almost daily for some years now.
Consideration for a water powered engine now.❤
I wonder why Toyota I Road was not launched after its pilot program in Japan in 2015
👍👍👍excellent design... 🙏
Lupa.. pernah mimpi memandu benda ni di jalan. Sini ketat sikit peraturan jalan. Mmg betul kut sikit lagi.
Long distance Road trips are probably extremely hard on the body
waiting for this for a very long time
Agree with others! At $10k, it will kill the automotive market; but at $32k plus tax, it is just a plaything for the rich!
You can get a Model 3 long range with over 340 miles of range for $34.900 today. That price is going to need some work.
I want one, so when can I buy one?
The C-1 could be a good 'second' vehicle for a family or a 'commuter vehicle'! Besides, Danny Kim should realize
that drivers would still think of the C-1 as a motorcycle that cannot legally, 'weave' in & out of traffic! If a separate
lane could be 'dedicated' for the C-1, it might work, but now it would be too dangerous for our crowded streets!
I'm from India. Like to know availablity in India, date, price etc. pl
Guess why no one needs it? Because it solves no problem. Because stability is inherently built into the motorcycle frame nobody needs any electronics.
It is very meaningful! 😉
15 years after...
NOT A HEAVY RAIN OR SNOW RIDE
"$32,000 not much to ask..." Uh, you guys are dreaming. People in the US will go buy a $20K compact car before they buy this.
a concept that never sold even a few units and the price, with new 4 wheel models priced in the low 20's makes this DOA!