Mew2King Teaches Salem Melee Marth

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  • Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
  • Mew2King Teaches Salem Melee: Episode 2 Marth. Mew2King breaks down Marth in Super Smash Bros Melee, teaching Salem (and you) micro-interactions, movement, setups, combos and more! Salem's Years of Research has nothing on Mew2King's nearly 20 years of competitive Melee experience. You are guaranteed to learn something new about Melee in every single episode!
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    How to Fight With Marth 5:38
    How to Combo With Marth 13:17
    Stages for Marth 21:16
    Important Matchups For Marth 22:53
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Комментарии • 268

  • @robo-rex0239
    @robo-rex0239 4 года назад +600

    Years of research vs years of research

    • @gogetassj4305
      @gogetassj4305 4 года назад +4

      :V

    • @richasaurusrex2890
      @richasaurusrex2890 4 года назад +16

      years of research vs years of experience and research

    • @mikebrouwer600
      @mikebrouwer600 4 года назад +4

      not even smash, what game is this?

    • @link2bside
      @link2bside 4 года назад

      @@mikebrouwer600 this is smash melee

    • @bribotran6121
      @bribotran6121 4 года назад +5

      Mike Brouwer lol this made me laugh so hard did ya think there were no games before smash 4 or ultimate.

  • @hibernate44
    @hibernate44 4 года назад +208

    M2K casually pausing frame perfectly

    • @CaroFDoom
      @CaroFDoom 4 года назад +94

      M2K's pauses are actually the biggest flex and it's even funnier because you know that he knows exactly what frame it is.

    • @taylorbee4010
      @taylorbee4010 2 года назад +3

      That was probably the only way he'd capture framed back in the day
      If you've seen a move enough you know when it's going to come out

    • @ln8496
      @ln8496 7 месяцев назад +2

      M2k learned all the frame data in the game by pausing and unpausing because if you do that frame perfectly, theres an 11 frame period the game doesnt let you pause again. Coupled with pause buffering he was able to measure the entirety of this games frame data.

    • @hibernate44
      @hibernate44 7 месяцев назад

      @@ln8496 duh

    • @getmilked6216
      @getmilked6216 Месяц назад

      @@ln8496 i didn't know that 11 frame buffer was the way he did that

  • @henryreturns1397
    @henryreturns1397 4 года назад +248

    - Ken pioneer Marth on it's early stages
    - Mew2king improved on it and created that insane punish game
    - PPMD convert Marth into this neutral sword guy that cannot be touch
    - Zain push Marth to the very limit, showing to everyone that you can solo main him

    • @Wrench-007
      @Wrench-007 4 года назад +6

      Solo main it? Marth isn't a he?

    • @sujetonormal3399
      @sujetonormal3399 4 года назад +18

      @@Wrench-007 marth is a god like me

    • @socaranectien1933
      @socaranectien1933 4 года назад +36

      M2003O no, it’s an anime sword girl

    • @Jerome616
      @Jerome616 4 года назад +4

      marth is the one who when asked replied, "I AM".

    • @user-do1ss7bm3c
      @user-do1ss7bm3c 4 года назад +3

      M2003O he is roy main

  • @thegoodgenerald5083
    @thegoodgenerald5083 4 года назад +74

    Salem on 1 frame less of hitstun: "... Toxic."
    Also Salem selecting character in Sm4sh: "BAYONETTA!"

  • @bootieos7701
    @bootieos7701 4 года назад +353

    If you want a tip, just grab M2K's attention and hopefully he'll give you a few fair responses.

  • @angelmacias6723
    @angelmacias6723 4 года назад +179

    This is awesome! I love it when you guys branch out into things that aren’t smash.

    • @coral3831
      @coral3831 4 года назад +5

      .......

    • @michaelasnicar6684
      @michaelasnicar6684 4 года назад +15

      who's gonna tell him

    • @coral3831
      @coral3831 4 года назад +18

      Michael Asnicar wait is it the joke that salem doesn’t consider melee to be smash

    • @rune4193
      @rune4193 4 года назад +9

      jeff yes

    • @waffielz3106
      @waffielz3106 4 года назад +1

      years of research

  • @Jerome616
    @Jerome616 4 года назад +190

    MK2: "I am not a Robot"
    Also MK2: "human flow chart"...
    lol

  • @squirt594
    @squirt594 4 года назад +113

    M2k needs to make an in depth controller guide for smash games. Talk about the differences and what to watch out for. The different types of controllers and modifications.

    • @Epsilonsama
      @Epsilonsama 4 года назад +4

      There's a video on RUclips regarding controller notches and basically its really hard to get someone who is good enough to do them correctly.

    • @127marq
      @127marq 4 года назад +1

      Controller mods are becoming more irrelevant due to UCF. You only just need a capacitor (if your controller has SnapBack), notches are personal preference (I don’t use notches personally but many people do).

  • @Boyzby
    @Boyzby 4 года назад +87

    I could listen to M2K talk about the intricacies of Melee to Salem for hours, with him reacting to the specific and weird things about the game. And I hope it becomes a reality, because I'm also learning so much as someone who just plays because I love the way it feels to move. After a few years of messing around, my hands only just figured out how to waveshine.

    • @tomjackal5708
      @tomjackal5708 4 года назад +1

      Salem's reaction to the controller port differences lmao

    • @atem9170
      @atem9170 4 года назад

      I figured out wavedashing in a week lmao

    • @SleepingChimes
      @SleepingChimes 4 года назад +2

      Papa John *waveshine

  • @BeBanthenz
    @BeBanthenz 4 года назад +76

    This is truly the most valuable gaming content. I learned so much from this video even though I've been playing for years lol

    • @Tiznado
      @Tiznado 2 года назад

      exactly what i was thinking. i really appreciate this kind of high level content.

  • @nobbuchan5333
    @nobbuchan5333 4 года назад +80

    This is way harder than everything I have learned in Ultimate and I'm loving it so much. Thanks M2K for breaking down this amazing character

    • @TheRealMew2king
      @TheRealMew2king 4 года назад +107

      yea that's Melee lol. Game has endless depth compared to other smash games cuz of the options on both offense and defense and neutral and like literally everything

    • @piedpiped3267
      @piedpiped3267 4 года назад +30

      Mew2King melee is pretty good for a game that isn’t smash

    • @nobbuchan5333
      @nobbuchan5333 4 года назад +5

      @@TheRealMew2king Bro you make me want to play Melee but Idk if I would be good enough

    • @arswl854
      @arswl854 4 года назад +24

      Nobbu SB No one would ever be good enough for melee , there is only being better at it. Don’t fear to join the community, you can always get better even if you are not good , and you will get good at it eventually with practice.

    • @A432Hz
      @A432Hz 4 года назад +16

      Nobbu SB just try it, don’t be afraid to suck in the beginning because everyone sucks in the beginning and no one expects you to be amazing then

  • @geraldcalderon3327
    @geraldcalderon3327 4 года назад +30

    6:10
    M2K: the humans (remembers that people dont know hes a robot)
    I mean WE press Z faster anyways.

    • @sayn4888
      @sayn4888 4 года назад

      Gerald Calderon LOOOOL

    • @noobshadi4324
      @noobshadi4324 4 года назад

      Best part of the video

  • @cartman994
    @cartman994 4 года назад +27

    M2K: "... you can do pivot F-smash but I'm not very good at it".
    Also M2K: casually does 3 pivot F-smashes in a row...

    • @johnnycrash4892
      @johnnycrash4892 4 года назад

      It's the controller!

    • @3godzilla3
      @3godzilla3 4 года назад +1

      @@johnnycrash4892 It's the tangent lines!

  • @jason_n_black
    @jason_n_black 4 года назад +67

    Before Premier: My body is ready

  • @rinkusan978
    @rinkusan978 4 года назад +50

    He's learning Jigglypuff and Marth... something something Leffen.

    • @mileshaf.1597
      @mileshaf.1597 4 года назад +18

      Salem beating leffen in melee would be the best timeline

    • @VAIS2show
      @VAIS2show 4 года назад +11

      Miles haf. Leffen winning and ultimate but losing to Salem in melee would be something else lol

    • @jessenorman91
      @jessenorman91 4 года назад

      Lmfaooooo

  • @Lazyboxcat
    @Lazyboxcat 4 года назад +26

    This game is way more complicated than I thought.
    I didn't know I was watching absolute legends

    • @Zerosixious
      @Zerosixious 4 года назад +2

      Yeah, melee is one of those games that gets better to spectate as you learn more about the game. There is so many micro interactions with teching, cc, and them many character specific interactions. Great game.
      There is a lot of fundamental play in ultimate I also appreciate. It is good to be a fan of smash in general, as then you can enjoy when people incorporate stuff from other games into the game they are currently playing.

    • @alexkfridges
      @alexkfridges 4 года назад +1

      Melee is the best. Always will be

  • @zweePOP
    @zweePOP 4 года назад +24

    For these tutorials you should include an input display! It'd be really helpful to see precisely what you're doing

  • @thecowcowclash
    @thecowcowclash 4 года назад +9

    M2K says "humans tend to mess up" because he has ascended to being a melee god.

  • @Dhakk
    @Dhakk 4 года назад +48

    Nobody:
    Mew2King at 14:25 : "All my life I had to fight."

  • @elvissimo
    @elvissimo 4 года назад +41

    you should watch Salem play some actual matches and then give him tips/critique him as he plays. I think that would be really entertaining

  • @williamlyon5553
    @williamlyon5553 4 года назад +1

    I love hearing you explain smash! Kept the content coming.

  • @cubicalprobably
    @cubicalprobably 4 года назад +23

    Man, everybody is very funny with these years of research. It's almost like theyre all original and brand new.

  • @bittendead
    @bittendead 3 года назад +1

    This is valuable knowledge, thanks M2K!

  • @Yoshimitsu882
    @Yoshimitsu882 4 года назад +1

    thank you god this is what i've been waiting for my entire live

  • @primetimedurkheim2717
    @primetimedurkheim2717 4 года назад +40

    Salem realizing how low IQ other Smash games are for over 29 minutes.

  • @dad4436
    @dad4436 4 года назад +29

    Can't wait for the ice climbers episode

  • @bw1170
    @bw1170 4 года назад

    Have to say, I loved that Apex champion set between you two in brawl forever ago. I remember watching it live, and it was such hype set, down to the last hit if I remember. ZSS was so sick in brawl, same with meta knight's glide literally across the whole stage from the blast lines

  • @highcard6296
    @highcard6296 4 года назад +2

    I always love to learn about melee, it’s really enjoyable:)

  • @nuclearsuplex7383
    @nuclearsuplex7383 4 года назад +8

    I’m gonna save this video for later, when I can bundle up and grab a snack. This is the greatest series ever conceived on YT. Continuous improvement, chasing impossible perfection.

  • @orionwebster8727
    @orionwebster8727 4 года назад +9

    before watching: "well time for the best guide ever made on melee marth."

    • @farslashenjoyer
      @farslashenjoyer 4 года назад +3

      after watching: "okay well now i know port 4 takes one frame less hitstun and nothing else"

  • @LuWeegee.
    @LuWeegee. 4 года назад

    Just picked Melee back up again, and I secondary/co-main Marth alongside my Luigi, and this was super helpful. Thanks

    • @LuWeegee.
      @LuWeegee. 2 года назад

      @@JohnSmith0010 huh?

  • @Axzle_MC
    @Axzle_MC 4 года назад +2

    Btw m2k thanks for being a great Professor for my Smash Bro’s class man. :))

  • @prince5063
    @prince5063 4 года назад +1

    I can’t wait that long for you to teach him my main

  • @MATTierial
    @MATTierial 4 года назад +13

    I kinda want to see Salem try Icies in Tournament. I think it would fit his style.

    • @jjrambles683
      @jjrambles683 4 года назад +1

      Nah I feel like he's a Puff deep down, besides a lot of regionals have banned wobbling.

    • @ciarzyx
      @ciarzyx 4 года назад

      do icies have good options apart from wobbling?

  • @jrkb89
    @jrkb89 4 года назад +8

    Dude I have the same DBZ shirt! Walmart Gang represent!

  • @Kyomaku
    @Kyomaku 4 года назад

    Really nice vid. Please cover Sheik next, would love to learn more about her as well.

  • @RB3Vids
    @RB3Vids 4 года назад +1

    It’s awesome to see Salem playing Melee.

  • @Metroyeti17
    @Metroyeti17 4 года назад +2

    So nice to see Salem branching out from only playing Smash games

  • @Jytami
    @Jytami 4 года назад +3

    if salem is ready, do some fighting lmao, would love to see it. Salem is just a spicy personality in smash

  • @alann3230
    @alann3230 4 года назад +1

    M2king es una máquina de procesamiento de frames de cuando y cuando no hacer el ataque demonios eres una bestia

  • @shout_inc
    @shout_inc 4 года назад +1

    Hey guys it’s great to see m2k doin melee and Salem together in a positive way

  • @Lampaluile
    @Lampaluile 4 года назад +2

    Nooo just release it! I can't wait.. I'll patreon if I can get access

  • @stayontrack
    @stayontrack 4 года назад

    Great stuff

  • @spandauhanno2523
    @spandauhanno2523 4 года назад +1

    ready for that swordsman spike

  • @chasechow6507
    @chasechow6507 Год назад

    6:13 M2k just referred to us as "the humans". M2k is a robot confirmed

  • @SleepingChimes
    @SleepingChimes 4 года назад +1

    man these char tutorials are a great way to explain the unexplainable depth of melee

  • @ketchubb
    @ketchubb 4 года назад +21

    Make him learn peach. That'll show him.

    • @cheers9430
      @cheers9430 4 года назад +1

      He plays peach...

    • @zuki4607
      @zuki4607 4 года назад +2

      Cheers ! R/wooosh

    • @cheers9430
      @cheers9430 4 года назад +6

      @@zuki4607 Guys look! He has Reddit!

    • @ketchubb
      @ketchubb 4 года назад +2

      @@cheers9430 r/woosh

    • @SamtheShrooman
      @SamtheShrooman 4 года назад +2

      Cheers ! You’re just that one slow kid who doesn’t get the joke. Woooooooooosh

  • @ryanwilliams8120
    @ryanwilliams8120 4 года назад +1

    It would be amazing to see how quickly can a Melee god could train a noob at Melee to play on their tier. (maybe from street fighter) or vice versa.

  • @Wimble333
    @Wimble333 4 года назад +5

    I feel like it's impossible to get a good grasp of how melee really feels unless you just go in and grind your movement for a week or two. Learning character stuff or mechanics just doesn't add up if you ain't schmoovin

  • @SaiyanX5
    @SaiyanX5 4 года назад +1

    Bruh Salem's eyes 0:24 LOL

  • @NicholasSunderland
    @NicholasSunderland 4 года назад

    This was great

  • @Axzle_MC
    @Axzle_MC 4 года назад +1

    And the redemption arc continues once again.

  • @Frank7489
    @Frank7489 3 года назад

    Please make more vids like this (especially w Marf.)
    For instance if you redid each segment as it’s own video I think more ppl would watch and the information would be more digestible.

  • @PoKeKidMPK1
    @PoKeKidMPK1 4 года назад

    so is marths neutral majorly focused on movement into grabs? should you almost always jc grab as well. also does ucf take away the port advantages? seems weird to fix controller issues but keep advantages for port 1 (being priority grabs, ledge grabs, and spawning) and advantages for ports closest to port 4 (being 1 frame less hitstun)

  • @flaurel
    @flaurel 4 года назад

    I love the thumbnail, ngl

  • @davidromero7915
    @davidromero7915 4 года назад

    man I can only say that seeing this is inspiring a lot of information (some things I knew others not xd) but at the end and seeing m2k teaching in such a way makes me want to do some combat, without joking I must have like 5 or 6 gb with information from players who use marth or have used it but with you it is that I keep your way of warping :) I wish you the best bro I saw your video of reacting to your story and seeing you battle against people who yell at you with negative intentions I It saddens but at the same time I see that I am not the only one who has had these things happen to him and I am not so discouraged since it is normal. how did you say no ?, "my only crime is to win" xd that made me laugh but it's the truth, well greetings from venezuela

  • @ryutakano9745
    @ryutakano9745 4 года назад +3

    Hey mew2king! I have a question about controller grip that is “standard vs claw” grip and which is better for either melee or ultimate. It would be great if you make even a short video about it.

    • @Shodan130
      @Shodan130 4 года назад

      Stuff like controller grip is entirely preference, there are some pro’s and cons but generally use what your comfortable with

    • @beigematt4927
      @beigematt4927 4 года назад

      I personally decided when I started learning melee to do claw grip. I personally feel like tech skill is a bit easier to learn. It's not required tho

  • @floridaman6643
    @floridaman6643 4 года назад

    Thumbnail is god tier

  • @ERRandDEL
    @ERRandDEL 4 года назад +1

    3:13 because you've been practicing for your future career of Super Knuckles 64, right?

  • @MrBubbajiggens
    @MrBubbajiggens 4 года назад +2

    I have the shirt M2K is wearing.. I feel much cooler now

  • @kristophermason6395
    @kristophermason6395 4 года назад

    Did M2K say up and in is pretty much always survival DI in melee? Is this because most kill moves in melee send away at 45 degrees? Are the exceptions to this just moves that send upward (fox usmash) and directly away (fox dsmash), or does up and in DI work sufficiently to survive those moves?

    • @jessenorman91
      @jessenorman91 4 года назад +1

      Kristopher Mason a mixture of that, how a lot of the time the top blastzone is the furthest out, and how knockback scaling works in melee

  • @jasonduhela9597
    @jasonduhela9597 3 года назад

    You can see Salem comes to realize how much more technical this game is than its later counterparts. His face shows how much more complex and intense this game is. Says a lot imo; especially considering his past statements.

  • @ForeverAbroad
    @ForeverAbroad 4 года назад +3

    jason! please practice melee again. you've always been my favorite player

  • @OnAtuesday7
    @OnAtuesday7 4 года назад +1

    Love marth in melee

  • @Nerdslayer0
    @Nerdslayer0 Год назад

    Any one have good advice for comboing a character or spacie after throwing them up onto a platform? They always get up as I up tilt and fall through to punish me back :(

    • @fupalover
      @fupalover Год назад

      You aren't reacting in time. Its a true punish. So watching the timing better. If not wave land on the platform and grab them. You should be able to do that if they get up and shield. If they get up and drop down thats a free counter.

  • @alexwright7501
    @alexwright7501 4 года назад +3

    so when is salems netplay adventure happening?

  • @jinxdraws58
    @jinxdraws58 4 года назад

    1:08 his reaction😂

  • @trenchwarfare9518
    @trenchwarfare9518 3 года назад

    Anyone else see the most perfectly spaced wavedash ftilt in history at 8:12

  • @meltossmedia
    @meltossmedia 4 года назад

    My man's casually blamed the controller lmao

  • @officialwpov
    @officialwpov 4 года назад

    Can you touch up on Dr. Mario would love to see the breakdown of his move set.
    keep up the good work!

  • @MrZAPPER1000
    @MrZAPPER1000 4 года назад

    That thumbnail that intro 😍

  • @eulefranz944
    @eulefranz944 4 года назад

    Will you do more match analysis like Zain vs Sfat?

  • @soulslayerz
    @soulslayerz 4 года назад

    i think it would be totally awesome if there was a video on how to play sheik like this. if there already isn't one lol

  • @oddhenry7995
    @oddhenry7995 4 года назад +68

    Wait, so according to Salem's years of research, he'll no longer be part of the smash community.

    • @Thenightcalls
      @Thenightcalls 4 года назад +12

      odd henry Nah he told M2k he actually wants to learn. I’m hype, I’m sure Salem (with practice) can get really good at melee.

    • @oddhenry7995
      @oddhenry7995 4 года назад +20

      @@Thenightcalls I was just being a clown. That happened like a year ago or more.

    • @Thenightcalls
      @Thenightcalls 4 года назад +2

      odd henry lol yea i gotcha

    • @oddhenry7995
      @oddhenry7995 4 года назад

      @@mathunit1 Yeah. I was just being a memer is all.

    • @jesterjaded73
      @jesterjaded73 4 года назад +5

      @@mathunit1 This was all an elaborate ruse to gain clout as the villain of Melee's new arc next season.
      Read the manga, it's all there

  • @kidstoked
    @kidstoked 4 года назад +1

    TBH It'd be awesome to see Salem overcome his Melee hate and give the game a real try, I think he could be good with the more neutral focused characters

  • @sharsasuke01
    @sharsasuke01 4 года назад +1

    We're long way from Smash 4 Bayo. lol

  • @TOT3N
    @TOT3N 4 года назад

    Mew2King I love you so much.

  • @Twurkkk
    @Twurkkk 4 года назад +1

    M2K: I picked it up bc of him too
    *only picked it up to beat Ken with his best character*

  • @LARAUJO_0
    @LARAUJO_0 4 года назад +1

    When you said you were both inspired by Ken I thought you meant Ninkendo for a second

  • @jamesh2514
    @jamesh2514 4 года назад +1

    "Peach and Falcon grab behind them." So when they grab, it doesn't matter if your opponent is in front of you or behind you?

  • @TheBarthinator
    @TheBarthinator Год назад

    bro the port exploit is crazy that we found this out so much later

  • @abelbeans
    @abelbeans 4 года назад +1

    damn jason smart. Its like im watching a real fighting game player

  • @MATTierial
    @MATTierial 4 года назад +2

    Years of Research vs Actual Years of Research

    • @cheers9430
      @cheers9430 4 года назад

      Salem is a god in his respective games, it's just a completely different games so he doesn't know lol.

    • @MATTierial
      @MATTierial 4 года назад

      @@cheers9430 You obviously don't get the joke.

    • @Shodan130
      @Shodan130 4 года назад

      Cheers ! He got bopped by a melee player that barely plays his game. Either Salem is trash or ultimate players are trash lol

  • @KennyCnotG
    @KennyCnotG 4 года назад

    I want to see Salem play Samus in melee

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 4 года назад +2

    If Salem gets good with Melee Marth I will respect him again :)

    • @largenaq2935
      @largenaq2935 4 года назад

      Lazule And then he beats Leffen in tournament to complete the arc

  • @ElDrHouse2010
    @ElDrHouse2010 4 года назад +1

    You forgot fair into wave dash back

  • @LarzTheMessiah
    @LarzTheMessiah 4 года назад

    you and zain need to work on covering that pikachu match up tho huh

  • @tassn7405
    @tassn7405 4 года назад

    Nice

  • @feelsokayman5656
    @feelsokayman5656 4 года назад

    Leffen in shambles

  • @brenq3852
    @brenq3852 4 года назад +8

    M2K pls make a Mew2King teaches Salem Melee Yoshi

  • @its_Dizzle
    @its_Dizzle 2 года назад

    i feel bad for learners Live who dont get the rewind button on m2k like us seaters do infront of a screen ..m2k-nowledge!

  • @2kcash_
    @2kcash_ 4 года назад

    15:30 made me laugh idk why

  • @suticase
    @suticase 4 года назад +1

    Teach falco!

  • @archangelwolf1661
    @archangelwolf1661 4 года назад

    Hey can you do Sheik next?

  • @jaydenholzhueter6344
    @jaydenholzhueter6344 4 года назад

    I have the same dragon ball t-shirt

  • @theguest103
    @theguest103 2 года назад

    what game is this

  • @Sahil_sw__
    @Sahil_sw__ 3 года назад

    Combo 13:23

  • @themustardthe
    @themustardthe 4 года назад

    Which one has done more research?

  • @subpanda101
    @subpanda101 4 года назад

    Anyone know why m2k doesn't play Marth against Captain Falcon most of the time?

  • @RocketLeague_7
    @RocketLeague_7 4 года назад

    Ill teach you some marth boii.. Marth main here