@@IusedtohaveausernameIliked Yes because depth scoring is more hit and miss than defense. They can fix that at the trade deadline because there will be a ton of good D going then.
When McDavid said: "cup or bust" last year I was s skeptic. With who they have on the team rn, this is the year of cup or bust. The Oilers are loaded with talent.
Players taking pay cuts for a chance to play with McDavid and a contender. If they don't resign Draisaitl, the exodus or overpaying will begin. This next year is cup or bust.
THE THING with Marner is if he does what he usually does in the regular season it makes it difficult to trade him esp with his no trade. However if he does the usual and disappears in the playoffs (esp if its another 1st round exit) I just dont see how u can justify resigning him. I know nobody wants to lose him for nothing but I feel like we're going to be forced to lose him for nothing.
More skilled, yes, but also: Smaller Slower. 9 players over the age of 32. 4 players with significant injury history. No additions/changes to the D. Same Goalies.
What is this guy talking about😂 the flames had one of the vest drafts and made small FA signings some of which they can flip at the deadline. I'm fine we didn't get tij, parekh will likley turn out great. Plus it's the direction the flames are trying to go in.
@@joeynova9896 LOL!!! Good one... Looks like you haven't stopped crying since the second round. Go cry some more cause it's going to be a long drought for the vancouver CANNOTS!!!👍😁😜
I feel JJ is waiting till he makes the deals he wants to improve the team over last year before he gets a new GM replacement and turns the reigns over and lose control to a GM making decisions as his position dictates.......even if JJ does the hiring. Best he make them now without possible headaches.
oilers did goof with the cap by signing Perry, Stetcher and maybe jeff brown(i do like him and his size and grit)but money should have been used for broberg and holloway
How so? Those are basically league min contracts and can be buried at no cost, what's the negative of bringing in these depth signings? They don't impact the signings for Broberg or Holloway in any way.
The Canucks are happy to fly below the radar. We know that the Oil are media darlings but the Canucks are going to surprise a lot of people again this year (i.e. people are STILL taking them lightly).
@@jamess1021 That's ridiculous. We're not in rebuild mode, we're in fine tuning mode. Sure we would have liked to keep Z but he priced himself out. That was a disciplined move by management. Lindy was just a rental. Wait 'till you see what's coming. Hockey isn't played in comment sections, we'll see how it plays out on the ice.
It will be much harder for the Oilers to get back to the Cup Final. Vegas/Avs/Stars will bounce back from disappointing playoff exits. Knoblauch had a phenomenal rookie coaching year, but he will have to face adversity coaching them in his sophomore year. Knoblauch coaching philosophy won't be under the radar, as WCF teams will have better scouting reports of his coaching in his 2nd year. The Oilers overachieved as the hockey purist's know it.
Interesting that you say they overachieved, they were one of the favorites to win the cup at the beginning of last season. It was their horrid start that was the most surprising thing. Since they made the coaching change, they were uber consistent and the best team in the league. It's hard for any team every year to go far in the playoffs.
@@dmonsef EVERY team has a weakness - that's what a Salary Cap does - and based on our forward group, we could have Hedman, Hughes, Makar, Ekholm, Bouchard, and Fox back there and they'd still be the 'weakness' of the team - that literally makes zero sense. Lets see how the season plays out shall we - and I guarantee you that (who do you cheer for?) your team made a trade with the Oilers, and literally SWAPPED entire rosters - you'd be over the moon and extolling here, insta, X, and every other social platform how your team would be winning the Cup. And you know you would lol.
@@KptKrunch9481 Caps is my team. No, I wouldn't want to trade for the majority of the Oilers roster. 9 mil per year Nurse! He's more like a less than 1/2 that per year d-man. Oilers will not have that easier path through the West again(Kings were clueless, Canucks played hard in a full 7 games against without Demko, Stars offense just disappeared). Oilers did not have to go through Vegas/Avs, which last times both teams knocked out the Oilers. We will see what the Oilers do this season as they will have to face a lot more adversity than they dealt with last season. If they don't match going back to the Cup Final, then they are not much better than the '06 team was losing to the Canes!
No. Leafs addressed their coaching issues(hiring Berube), improved their goaltending(subtracted Samsonov and signed Stolarz), added needed D in Tanev, OEL and Hakanpaa, brought back Domi. The Leafs should still be a top 5 scoring team, but now they have a Cup winning coach that has good experience coaching his teams to play good team defense and play smart, while reducing the carelessness of playing flashy. Oilers took advantage of their playoff opponents, but ultimately came up one game short of winning the Cup. Overall perspective, I don't think they did enough during the offseason. The D group needed to be improved/changed, yet they are still stuck with Nurse with the dumbest overpaid contract in the NHL. While Stuart Skinner bounced back at times, I'm not sure Pickard should be backing up Skinner again? I think the Oilers should have acquired a better goalie to push/challenge Skinner. And NHL history has shown the majority of Cup Final losers didn't go so well the next coming season
coaching issues? Look at Sheldon Keefe's W-L record, I don't think he was the issue. Toronto, like in all years past, have just been playoff under achievers, year after year. They have some guys there that just do not show the playoff grit that is needed when it needs to be shown. John Tavares is a way over paid under achieving captain. Great regular season team, horrible playoff team....the history has shown that in the last 30 years. The best team they had was the 92-93 version, that was an amazing team, but since then....
Leafs are a good scoring team until playoffs. Haven't scored more than 3 goals since game 4 against tampa. Maybe the coaching change will help with that. I agree the Oilers should improve the defense but it's been shown good enough to win a cup and they'll likely make those moves at the trade deadline. Hypothetically they have the best top 6 currently with those additions so saying they didn't do enough is an interesting take lol
@@tonymeehan7859keef wins you regular season games, he doesn’t win you playoff games. Reason being because he doesn’t know how to coach his team to be more physical… you know that thing you need to win the cup? Playing hard nose hockey and being gritty. That comes down to both players AND coaches, so yes, getting rid of Keefe fixes part of that problem
the Leafs always address all their issues every year..different names..always the same result..but one thing that does change? their ages, their core is aging during all their choking..and how do you know Berube is the answer?????? gimme a break lol
Yep - recent history especially eh bud? Who was the losing team in the Cup final last year? It's actually the opposite - the team that wins the Cup doesn't do too well afterwards (Tampa Bay, Colorado, Vegas). As for your 'defense' - Hak is hurt, Tanev is old and he's hurt a lot, OEL was bought out in VCR for a reason and only excelled on a superior, hard forechecking team (you ain't one in case you didn't know), Stolarz is a 31 year old career backup and I'd take Skinner over Joseph Woll any day. Oh, and for Nurse, bad contract - sure, but worst? Not even close - worst contract is Jonathan Huberdeau in Calgary - 10.5m per season for 7 more years and he's not even a .6/game point per player, doesn't play tough, doesn't check well, and never did. Nurse can be very affective but at times he is out to lunch - but he's a much better dman than Huberdeau is a forward - nice try though
I like what my Canucks did and they may not be finished. Oilers certainly, but my issue with the Oil is there unbelievable inconsistancy, also are they good enough to win it all in goal and D?
They were a goal or two from “winning it all” a month ago lol oilers aren’t this inconsistence team that people think they are. Not since the coach change at least
@@thatdudeconz Oh here we go again! Tell me how bad Silovs sucked again? Yeah he was brutal /s! As for your 'top scorer', he missed the last game only not the series. As for your #1 goalie, he can't stay healthy, he has a chronic issue. As for excuses, Oilers played most of that series with the flu, which peaked in game 5 - and you guys totally dominated us didn't you? Yep - it was a complete domination, and I'll say to you what I said to all Canuck fans after game 5 - you lose - we were clearly not nearly at our best - you guys played unbelievable - and you need a last minute goal on OUR backup goalie to beat us! What happened in game 6 when we were feeling better - a FIVE to ONE beatdown! What happened in game 7 - a FOUR or FIVE to nothing beatdown in your building (Tocchet would have pulled the goalie and we would've gotten at least one EN goal) BUUUUUUUUUT Mcleod inexplicably gave the puck away with 9 minutes left to let you back in the game, the you got a flukey 2nd one, then you never got a shot on goal in the last 4 minutes of the game, half of which was played with an extra attacker - so don't give me this 'barely beat the Canucks crap lol
Really pathetic attempt to badmouth the Oilers. Number one, it's first overalls, not first rounders, get that right. Secondly, losing in game 7 of the SCF is not the same as the first round.
@@davidkipp77 What are you talking about? You seem a bit lost or you're just really bad at explaining what you're trying to say. Every team is made up of a good portion of first rounders. Florida for example had the 2014 1st overall, 2nd overall, and 4th overall picks in their lineup in addition to the 2nd overall from 2013 just for a few examples.
Skinner, Arvidsson, Savoie
keeping Rico, Brown, Janmark
Jackson cooked 🔥
Keeping Picks drafting Sam O Riley
And still nurse, ceci and skinner lol
@@Codez1087cant do anything about nurse now and they can trade ceci if Kane goes on trade deadline and also could sign Holloway and broberg
We will be fina
@@Codez1087what issues do you have with stuuuuu? He's gotten better and better each season and playoffs.
Yes they did. Kept their good players plus added 2 more. Easily the best.
But did the Oilers really need more offence?
@@IusedtohaveausernameIliked Yes because depth scoring is more hit and miss than defense. They can fix that at the trade deadline because there will be a ton of good D going then.
Yes, without a doubt. They added some very good players, resigned mostly everyone and didn't lose anyone significant.
Let's hope Calgary's pick we have next year is a solid forward prospect
Broberg & Holloway(sp?) need to be signed and their
over the CAP now
They were 2 mil over the cap prior to trading McLeod.
They'll have to make another to handle the RFAs
When McDavid said: "cup or bust" last year I was s skeptic. With who they have on the team rn, this is the year of cup or bust. The Oilers are loaded with talent.
Players taking pay cuts for a chance to play with McDavid and a contender. If they don't resign Draisaitl, the exodus or overpaying will begin. This next year is cup or bust.
THE THING with Marner is if he does what he usually does in the regular season it makes it difficult to trade him esp with his no trade. However if he does the usual and disappears in the playoffs (esp if its another 1st round exit) I just dont see how u can justify resigning him. I know nobody wants to lose him for nothing but I feel like we're going to be forced to lose him for nothing.
Dont trade marner until you extend JT
Yes they most certainly have of course :)
Did Hayes forget Arvidsson?..
Of all teams, actually
More skilled, yes, but also:
Smaller
Slower.
9 players over the age of 32.
4 players with significant injury history.
No additions/changes to the D.
Same Goalies.
What is this guy talking about😂 the flames had one of the vest drafts and made small FA signings some of which they can flip at the deadline. I'm fine we didn't get tij, parekh will likley turn out great. Plus it's the direction the flames are trying to go in.
Oh look TSN blowing their load on Edmonton again!
Oh look another crybaby... Cry...
If the canucks were better they’d be talking about them😂😂
@@isidro9911 Oh don't worry I cried tears of joy when Edmonton lost in the finals. Go Panthers!
@@joeynova9896 LOL!!! Good one... Looks like you haven't stopped crying since the second round. Go cry some more cause it's going to be a long drought for the vancouver CANNOTS!!!👍😁😜
@@joeynova9896kind of old news u f u ck ING c l o w n
I feel JJ is waiting till he makes the deals he wants to improve the team over last year before he gets a new GM replacement and turns the reigns over and lose control to a GM making decisions as his position dictates.......even if JJ does the hiring. Best he make them now without possible headaches.
We qont know until they actually play some games.
Good of season for oilers but holloway and broberg are still not sign and Nurse is still here , perry i would of pass .
Let's see if Hymans dad can buy him onto the first line again
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But they are building a new arena 😢 does that mean the flames will suck for another decade 😂
Jets need to make room for some youngsters. Monahan slow, Toffoli slow… time to get younger.
no, they've had the best of any team.
What about the Canooks
wild card team
oilers did goof with the cap by signing Perry, Stetcher and maybe jeff brown(i do like him and his size and grit)but money should have been used for broberg and holloway
How so? Those are basically league min contracts and can be buried at no cost, what's the negative of bringing in these depth signings? They don't impact the signings for Broberg or Holloway in any way.
This guy doesn’t know hockey 😂
The oilers should switch to renewable
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The Canucks are happy to fly below the radar. We know that the Oil are media darlings but the Canucks are going to surprise a lot of people again this year (i.e. people are STILL taking them lightly).
Sure, you look good on paper and that's it, enjoy that pussy petey lol
LOL EDM sent CGY into a full rebuild 2 years ago and did it to the canucks now, (the fact lindy and big z said hellll no is just the start)
@@jamess1021 That's ridiculous. We're not in rebuild mode, we're in fine tuning mode. Sure we would have liked to keep Z but he priced himself out. That was a disciplined move by management. Lindy was just a rental. Wait 'till you see what's coming. Hockey isn't played in comment sections, we'll see how it plays out on the ice.
@@jamess1021 the canucks said on to big z and lindy lol, it makes no sense to pay almost 8 million for a guy to be your third best center
@@IusedtohaveausernameIliked priced himself out then overpay on vinny and debrusk LOLOLOL the cope is strong
It’s not the best. Like we brought in two new guys and overpaid 3 guys to come back so idk how this is a win. The cup better be our next june
We didn’t overpay anyone Perry is the only overpayment. Brown , Henrique and Janmark all came back on cheap deals.
Besides Perry who did they over pay?? They got deals on a couple guys actually
Canucks under rated again.. typical oh well. We will see next april
No grit and same goalie tandem. They won’t win the cup
It will be much harder for the Oilers to get back to the Cup Final. Vegas/Avs/Stars will bounce back from disappointing playoff exits. Knoblauch had a phenomenal rookie coaching year, but he will have to face adversity coaching them in his sophomore year. Knoblauch coaching philosophy won't be under the radar, as WCF teams will have better scouting reports of his coaching in his 2nd year. The Oilers overachieved as the hockey purist's know it.
Interesting that you say they overachieved, they were one of the favorites to win the cup at the beginning of last season. It was their horrid start that was the most surprising thing. Since they made the coaching change, they were uber consistent and the best team in the league. It's hard for any team every year to go far in the playoffs.
@@Marixa1979 Their D group is still the teams weakness...
@@dmonsef EVERY team has a weakness - that's what a Salary Cap does - and based on our forward group, we could have Hedman, Hughes, Makar, Ekholm, Bouchard, and Fox back there and they'd still be the 'weakness' of the team - that literally makes zero sense. Lets see how the season plays out shall we - and I guarantee you that (who do you cheer for?) your team made a trade with the Oilers, and literally SWAPPED entire rosters - you'd be over the moon and extolling here, insta, X, and every other social platform how your team would be winning the Cup. And you know you would lol.
@@KptKrunch9481 Caps is my team. No, I wouldn't want to trade for the majority of the Oilers roster. 9 mil per year Nurse! He's more like a less than 1/2 that per year d-man. Oilers will not have that easier path through the West again(Kings were clueless, Canucks played hard in a full 7 games against without Demko, Stars offense just disappeared). Oilers did not have to go through Vegas/Avs, which last times both teams knocked out the Oilers. We will see what the Oilers do this season as they will have to face a lot more adversity than they dealt with last season. If they don't match going back to the Cup Final, then they are not much better than the '06 team was losing to the Canes!
@@dmonsef By what measure? You do realize they were one of the top defensive teams all season, and especially in the playoffs?
No. Leafs addressed their coaching issues(hiring Berube), improved their goaltending(subtracted Samsonov and signed Stolarz), added needed D in Tanev, OEL and Hakanpaa, brought back Domi. The Leafs should still be a top 5 scoring team, but now they have a Cup winning coach that has good experience coaching his teams to play good team defense and play smart, while reducing the carelessness of playing flashy.
Oilers took advantage of their playoff opponents, but ultimately came up one game short of winning the Cup. Overall perspective, I don't think they did enough during the offseason. The D group needed to be improved/changed, yet they are still stuck with Nurse with the dumbest overpaid contract in the NHL. While Stuart Skinner bounced back at times, I'm not sure Pickard should be backing up Skinner again? I think the Oilers should have acquired a better goalie to push/challenge Skinner. And NHL history has shown the majority of Cup Final losers didn't go so well the next coming season
coaching issues? Look at Sheldon Keefe's W-L record, I don't think he was the issue. Toronto, like in all years past, have just been playoff under achievers, year after year. They have some guys there that just do not show the playoff grit that is needed when it needs to be shown. John Tavares is a way over paid under achieving captain. Great regular season team, horrible playoff team....the history has shown that in the last 30 years. The best team they had was the 92-93 version, that was an amazing team, but since then....
Leafs are a good scoring team until playoffs. Haven't scored more than 3 goals since game 4 against tampa. Maybe the coaching change will help with that. I agree the Oilers should improve the defense but it's been shown good enough to win a cup and they'll likely make those moves at the trade deadline. Hypothetically they have the best top 6 currently with those additions so saying they didn't do enough is an interesting take lol
@@tonymeehan7859keef wins you regular season games, he doesn’t win you playoff games. Reason being because he doesn’t know how to coach his team to be more physical… you know that thing you need to win the cup? Playing hard nose hockey and being gritty. That comes down to both players AND coaches, so yes, getting rid of Keefe fixes part of that problem
the Leafs always address all their issues every year..different names..always the same result..but one thing that does change? their ages, their core is aging during all their choking..and how do you know Berube is the answer?????? gimme a break lol
Yep - recent history especially eh bud? Who was the losing team in the Cup final last year? It's actually the opposite - the team that wins the Cup doesn't do too well afterwards (Tampa Bay, Colorado, Vegas). As for your 'defense' - Hak is hurt, Tanev is old and he's hurt a lot, OEL was bought out in VCR for a reason and only excelled on a superior, hard forechecking team (you ain't one in case you didn't know), Stolarz is a 31 year old career backup and I'd take Skinner over Joseph Woll any day. Oh, and for Nurse, bad contract - sure, but worst? Not even close - worst contract is Jonathan Huberdeau in Calgary - 10.5m per season for 7 more years and he's not even a .6/game point per player, doesn't play tough, doesn't check well, and never did. Nurse can be very affective but at times he is out to lunch - but he's a much better dman than Huberdeau is a forward - nice try though
This guys a joke! Acting like Iginla would’ve saved the franchise. Stfu dude, flames fans are happy with the guy they took in the draft.
I like what my Canucks did and they may not be finished. Oilers certainly, but my issue with the Oil is there unbelievable inconsistancy, also are they good enough to win it all in goal and D?
They were a goal or two from “winning it all” a month ago lol oilers aren’t this inconsistence team that people think they are. Not since the coach change at least
The canucks aren't even close to being competitive and made some of the worse signings 😂
@@tylergardner2598barely beat the Canucks with their 3rd string goalie and without there top goal scorer. But yeah the Canucks aren’t close lmao
@@thatdudeconz Oh here we go again! Tell me how bad Silovs sucked again? Yeah he was brutal /s! As for your 'top scorer', he missed the last game only not the series. As for your #1 goalie, he can't stay healthy, he has a chronic issue. As for excuses, Oilers played most of that series with the flu, which peaked in game 5 - and you guys totally dominated us didn't you? Yep - it was a complete domination, and I'll say to you what I said to all Canuck fans after game 5 - you lose - we were clearly not nearly at our best - you guys played unbelievable - and you need a last minute goal on OUR backup goalie to beat us! What happened in game 6 when we were feeling better - a FIVE to ONE beatdown! What happened in game 7 - a FOUR or FIVE to nothing beatdown in your building (Tocchet would have pulled the goalie and we would've gotten at least one EN goal) BUUUUUUUUUT Mcleod inexplicably gave the puck away with 9 minutes left to let you back in the game, the you got a flukey 2nd one, then you never got a shot on goal in the last 4 minutes of the game, half of which was played with an extra attacker - so don't give me this 'barely beat the Canucks crap lol
@@thatdudeconzoilers had the Canucks worked out in the end. Silovs was an asset for the Canucks in that series , he’s not an excuse.
Lmao how many first rounders did it take..and ya still lost.
Really pathetic attempt to badmouth the Oilers. Number one, it's first overalls, not first rounders, get that right. Secondly, losing in game 7 of the SCF is not the same as the first round.
how many first rounders do you have? That doesn't even make sense bud.
4-5 first round picks and how bad was the oilers before then you guys was terrible. Mcdavid and Leon saved you guys but you still couldn’t win.
@@davidkipp77 What are you talking about? You seem a bit lost or you're just really bad at explaining what you're trying to say. Every team is made up of a good portion of first rounders. Florida for example had the 2014 1st overall, 2nd overall, and 4th overall picks in their lineup in addition to the 2nd overall from 2013 just for a few examples.
@@Marixa1979 dont explain logic to nucks fans, they have none
No.
you don’t watch hockey
Nope
you don’t watch hockey
@@KASSIANOWNSYOU No you
@@KASSIANOWNSYOU you don’t watch hockey you deadmonton coilers fan 🤣🤣🤣