@@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay 1) Sylas, Jami, and Harvey ponder that two or three people were murdered in their sleep. Actually, it appears that only one person, Maddie, was asleep, and all three of the other victims were murdered while awake. Kaylee's parents have stated in interviews that they were told Kaylee had several defensive wounds. 2) Harvey mentioned Kohberger's cell phone pings in the area, several times before the date of the murders and repeated the common theory that Kohberger was checking out the area. However, this is just speculation and some people following the case disagree with it; they've instead proposed that Kohberger's previous visits to the area were not to "scope the area out" but to actually commit the murder, and then backing down and driving back home. 3) Harvey says that Kohberger walked into the house "knowing there were 6 people in there". Actually, we don't know if he knew how many people were in the house, and the prevailing theory is that he didn't expect that many people. (Ninette touches on that, to her credit).
You ppl are spreading misinformation. He did not stalk those ppl. You have a duty to report the truth. Don't any of you watch the court proceedings. Shane on you all!
When the prosecution says there is no evidence that he was stalking anyone, they mean they can't prove it. It doesn't matter what you know, it matters what you can prove. They can prove that he was at the scene because his DNA was on a knife sheath that likely contained the murder weapon. No amount of Ann Taylor's gaslighting is going to alter the fact that DNA doesn't lie. Period. But without physical evidence, such as a prior police report or corroborating witnesses, the prosecution can't say that he was stalking anyone. However, he had to have been keeping tabs on someone in that house.
Probably because the town didn't want the house to be spectacle and draw more attention. They made a 3D model/rendering of the house, which will be used in court
They knocked the house down, completely then they removed all the pieces of the house, took it to a un-disclosed location location and buried it. WHY??? There are kids dying left and right here , please help us, and help bring the truth to the surface. Don't let these kids die in vain. Please, there are secrets here that need to be told. Be the hero, for a town that's too afraid to speak. This guy is a fall guy. Dig into this further, please, please, please, there is so much that you do not know here. You tube has many video's on this ... Please look, Please find , Please help.
OK fine whatever they destroyed the crime scene prior to a trial even having a date for the students emotional well being blah blah blah but explain why they did this to the remains of the house! Exactly why they buried the entire content of the demolitioned house 6 to 10 feet down at an undisclosed location speaks volumes as far as I'm concerned.
I absolutely believe that Bryan Kohberger is innocent! A white Elantra was found in Oregon 8 hours after the murders! It was left in the middle of the highway with all 4 doors left open. I think that was the getaway car! It was finally listed as the owner was from Moscow, Idaho.
Then they ask me to believe that the former boyfriend drove from North of Moscow. To Boise in 5 hours. In winter, snow flying, windy dangerous icy roads, regularly patrolled by Sheriffs and Idaho State patrol It never happened. Driver would have to be going 90mph.
if you are going to report on this case, get the facts right. it has been proven in court that he was NOT stalking the victims. he lived 8 miles away, the phone pings are completely irrelevant and can't be corroborated
@@pocketfullofsunshine1 exactly, proven in court that there was no stalking, proven in court that there was no connection on social media, he did not break into a girl's apartment, on and on... for a news outlet that consider's themselves on the cutting edge, they certainly didn't dig deep here and are merely spouting the mainstream narrative...
@TOES-oo7 lol hi. TMZ can't ever state facts. I have a lot of questions about this case. First off, how can an alleged eyewitness watch a dude in all black walk right by her, in her own home, and she doesn't seem alarmed by that at all? Secondly she went back to bed, only to call friends to come over to check on her roommates! It's as if she knew the person, that's why she didn't react. I surely would've reacted and called the cops immediately. But it was like 8+ hours later.
@@ArizonaSquatch Let me break it down to you ... The police had already been there many times before .. SO dylan wasn't sure if this man was a friend or party goer or even the D _ O _ P_ E man .. Are you gonna call the cops when your friends could get into serious trouble for being LOUD again if its nothing ?? NO .. I think she wasn't sure and was scared so she went and spent the rest of the night at Bethany's room and they probably put things infront of the door to keep any intruder out .. Dylan gives us hints of this saying .. I ORIGINALLY went to sleep on the second floor .. So that one word originally tells me .. she ended somewhere else that night .. She probably got to sleep around 5 am .. And probably woke around 10 am .. AND not getting her roomies to answer their phones .. she called over a friend to check the house ... IMO
Reportedly Idaho has a specific legal definition for stalking, where the target must be aware that they are being stalked. So if the girls didn't know about it, it wasn't legally stalking.
@@catspajamas2961 That is ridiculous, makes no sense at all. What was said in the hearing to the defense witness expert by Bill Thompson was “I think we’re both aware he was not stalking them” and “I think we can all agree that the PCA is irrelevant” all said during the cross from Bill. So, whether the definition of stalking is actually defined by not knowing your being stalked or not… which in fact most people are not aware they’re being stalked until a confrontation of sorts happens… it didn’t apply to the context of questioning. Because the witness was the expert who was doing the survey questions where he asked specifically to people if they had hear BK was stalking the victims. Which is where BT stated there was no actual stalking. While I see the narrow craggy jagged slope this ledge is, I’m not taking that path. And I’m not buying what the prosecutor is selling….
@@catspajamas2961 This desperate attempt falls flat, considering there's no evidence of any relationship between Kohberger and the victims. There is also no evidence of him being at the house. I know this information is hard for many people to accept, but a man's life is at stake. He's been in jail for over 1.5 years, and his defense still hasn't received all the "evidence" despite requesting it repeatedly. Enough is enough.
@@LS-ny8mr The Mad Greek🤣😂🤣have you looked at the menu or watched the court proceedings? The Judge and prosecutor Bill Thompson said He DID NOT STALK THE VICTIMS
@@erikaechostearns3966 ummm yeah I know. She said mad Greek was a vegan restaurant and is saying BK stalked them from there. I am confused at what your saying… I know what Bill said I watch every hearing and have followed the case from day one so I have no idea what you’re talking about… so what is your beef
@@LS-ny8mr then why are you repeating yourself? If you know it wasn’t a vegan restaurant & know that BK wasn’t stalking the victims nor proof he ever had been their you know theirs a gag order and he has an alibi. Who are you referring to as “she?” This shows how inept the mass media is at informative journalism. They didn’t mention touch DNA which never has been used against anyone in a case except 1 where the man was in the same ambulance as the deceased but found to be innocent. The more misinformation he could be exonerated so whether you believe in his innocence or not the he might walk the case will grow cold. I’m from the NW and most of the tenants are from Coure deAlene which was the Aryian Brotherhood church, and why is Goncalves family making $$ off their dead child. I’ve had a family member murdered in a big case that was on 60 minutes to LA times, and we made nothing off her death it’s gross, and fictional writer Blum is the only crime writer that had put a book and supposedly a movie and series and Goncalves family are angry they won’t make $$. Don’t forget the numerous bank accounts and Hex bitcoin Ponzi scheme they advertise. TMZ is fake obviously
@@LS-ny8mr if you been following the case then why make a basic comment that everyone is aware of since the day of the murders everyone knew where 2 of the victims worked, and Mad Greek isn’t just vegan its origins are in Alaska, mostly hamburgers and pizza
The prosecution stated he did not stalk the victims, and there is no evidence to support the idea he had been anywhere near the home previously. Also, the prosecution acknowledged that there is no social media connection. This case doesn't make sense at all. 4 killings in 8 minutes makes zero sense.
@@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay these are NOT facts the fact he wasn’t stalking the victims or the facts it’s a $ clickbait after a sensationalized book was released. It’s all speculative especially with a gag order trial isn’t until a year from now the fact he has a alibi in WeiWei park or the fact you obviously haven’t read the PCA or the fact the FBI nor LE “ followed “ him or the fact his father bought ticket to drive back to Pennsylvania before the murders or the fact he has no DNA or anything at his apartment or job that connects him to the murders, or the fact innocent until proven guilty
No one knows the truth!!! You are spreading lies that have already been confirmed as lies by the prosecution, and then some. THIS IS MADNESS! Sad for the defendant who hasn't had a trial yet.
This is tmz and only thing that matters isn't the truth it's clicks, views and cash is all they care about lol truth is the last thing these peoples minds
These guys get zoned in, they have a psychological "high" as they are about to commit the crime. Very easy to make mistakes in that heightened, frenzied state of mind.
Exactly and walks in with a knife inside a knife sheath. Would you not just walk in with a knife? The person knew the layout of that place to be able to move so fast. Not much noise as the other girls heard hardly anything. The girl said she froze so why not call 911 if that guy terrified her. He surely knew there were cameras around when he was driving because he knew the house layout and where they were when he entered. Blood everywhere but no DNA in his car. We had a case in our country where a son killed his mom, dad, brother but sister survived with an axe. He said a person entered the place and he fought them off and lay on the ground for 8 hours before calling police.
smart people can be stupid at the same time, there are millions of educated americans that still vote democrat, my mother is a maths professor yet she has gambled all her money away over the last 30 yrs, smart and stupid in the same mind, smart students can do stupid things too,
@@y2y66 If it was a drug hit, how come no drugs were found in the house or in the system of the victims? The toxicology report would've said this. Also, why would the people involved let two victims live? Drug cartels merder everyone involved. 🤦♂️😂
Insider here. The gag order is so intense that University of Idaho professors down to janitors have been ordered to never talk about this case. Don’t forget the University demanded that the house be destroyed, along with any leftover evidence.
I do not like Nancy Grace . I remember her covering murder case, and I watched the trial. I cannot remember which one it was, but, she was trashing the person and saying how guilty he was. Then I watched the trial and I felt the person was not guilty and the person was found not guilty. That is when I, just couldn’t stand listening to Nancy Grace because she is such a know it all without really having all the facts in her hand.
This Is An Absolute Joke. Miss info from start To End. The only thing that’s Factually Correct. Is Idaho 4 Brian Koberger. That’s about it. I can Prove That Every Point A bold Face Lie.
@@patriciarobainamourid6597 honestly It’s difficult. The PCA isn’t even correct. The Cell Pings Are Misleading Prosecutors and LE both said Under oath. He Never Stalked or had Any comection via Social Media. Look up this case. That Just Happened in 22 the same ISP a Detectives. That are in The Idaho 4 State of Idaho VS Daniel Lee Moore
@@patriciarobainamourid6597 You can start by watching the hearings, especially the ones with Sy Ray being questioned. Sy Ray explains using tower and other evidence that Kohberger wasn't even in Moscow. The hearing where the survey guy is being questioned is where Bill Thompson admits there was no stalking. The hearing where Mowery and Payne are questioned is very enlightening. There we find out that the PCA is a joke put together by an inexperienced officer. We find out that evidence was withheld from the defense that Thompson said they did not have, but was miraculously found and given to the defense the day before the hearing. As far as YT channels go. I watch Truth and Transparency (She delves deep) and Harsh Reality.
@@ArizonaSquatchI think that what the girl on the first floor knows is in the notes of the investigators which is why the detective for the defense team wrote an affidavit in support of a subpoena for her to testify in the preliminary hearing in 2023 back when it was still scheduled and she got a lawyer and fought the subpoena and she and her lawyer in exchange of the defense dropping the subpoena agreed to met with BK’s defense team right before the grand jury indictment came down.
This video is full of incorrect information: -The people in the house were not asleep. This has been proven by the PCA in which the surviving roommates stated she heard Maddie & Kaylee talking and playing with the dog and she heard talking from Xana's room. The PCA also stated that Xana was on TikTok at 4:12 am. The white elantra is seen speeding away at 4:26 am. There is no way the surviving roommates didn't hear what happened. In fact, that is why it is stated in the PCA that DM opened her door three times to see what was going on. She saw the killer, in a mask, clear enough to see his eyebrows. There is no way she didn't see the trail of blood. Yet, she didn't call 911 and texted her friends instead. How did she know the killer wouldn't come back for her? That alone was reason enough to call 911. Its like she knew she didn't have anything to worry about. And then, even after seeing the blood and dead bodies, she called her friends over instead of police, allowing the crime scene to be contaminated. There is no way to determine who and what came in and out of the house that morning. And then when the defense subpoenaed her to testify at the preliminary hearing, she hired an attorney to fight the subpoena. If she cared at all about her friends that were killed, she would happily do whatever it took to make sure their killer was brought to justice. With friends like DM, who needs enemies? -No evidence that BK followed the victims on social media or that he had any connection to them whatsoever. This was even stated in Court. -Kaylee had already moved out of the house and was only visiting to show them her new car so, she couldn't have been the target. -Law enforcement found no DNA whatsoever in BKs car, apartment, office at WSU or at his parent's house in PA...impossible if he committed the crimes. In fact, if you watch the body cam footage from when he was pulled over driving to PA, you can clearly see his car was absolutely filthy and had not been cleaned at all in quite sometime. -The coroner stated it was the bloodiest crime scene she'd experienced in her entire career. Blood was dripping down the exterior of the house. Yet, there were no bloody footprints leading outside in the snow...impossible. Law enforcement is basically claiming these 4 people were killed in less than 15 minutes. Its not like the killer would've had time to change clothes and clean up, especially with 2 people still alive in the house. -No one would walk into a huge, 6 bedroom home to kill people with a knife, much less walk in with the knife still in the sheath. A killer wouldn't have even brought the sheath in. The residents of the home could've had guns, anything. A killer would value their own life first and would not walk into a huge, multilevel home with a single knife. -No evidence that BK broke into a neighbors apartment. -Cell tower pings in rural areas do not accurately determine location. BKs attorney stated in Court that they have the actual GPS data from BKs phone which will show he was not in the area the night of the murders. Why didn't law enforcement obtain actual GPS data instead of unreliable cell tower pings? -The DNA of two other unidentified males was found in the home but law enforcement will not release their identities. -Maddies step-mom and Xanas mom were both arrested on serious drug charges a couple months before the murders. Idaho/Washington are huge drug hubs because its home to a branch of the aryan brotherhood gang, called the aryan knights. They make a lot of money selling drugs to the college students at U of I and WSU. Well, in the two weeks before the murders, Maddies stepmom and Xanas mom snitched on the gang and took plea deals. All of this information is 100% verifiable online. I'm happy to post links for anyone that is interested. The favorite number of the aryan brotherhood is 13. The favorite number of the aryan knights is 11. They get it tattooed on them as gang identifiers. The murders occurred on 11/13. So here you have 2 victims, Xana & Maddie, the only 2 out of the 4 that were actually supposed to be there that night, and they both have parents that snitched on aryan knight members and took plea deals, just a week or two before the murders occurred......And Xanas dad came over the weekend before the murders to change the locks on her apartment door...too much to be coincidence.
This video is unbelievable. It’s like the rumors from the first months, or moron Howard Blum. Your comment should be way higher. The evidence against Bryan is so thin he shouldn’t even be in jail.
@Susiehighschool I follow a page that researches serial killers. It's the same for many past serial killers. The evidence is very thin. It's also a lot of evidence to link them to other people who helped. He won't be the first to go to prison to cover up bigger crimes.
@@Susiehighschool I'm surprised more people didn't acknowledge my comment too. Just goes to show people have already convicted this guy in their minds despite the lack of sufficient evidence and despite the evidence that shows there are other people that should have been looked at harder. Its very sad and a failure to our justice system.
@@Roosters-rants1977 The fact that both Maddie and Xanas moms snitched on gang members and took plea deals just two weeks before the murders is too hard to ignore. Its shocking that this hasn't been talked about in the main stream media.
@@Pllm30 👈🏾WHO raised you, 👀?? A quick google search of Idaho State Law would’ve told you that it’s punishable by a fine and up to 6 months in jail. And they can prove you hindered the investigation or crime, it’s a felony punishable by prison time and a much bigger fine.
@@YohielSpeaksWRONG. A quick google search would have told you that not reporting a MURDER in Idaho could result it a fine a 6 month jail sentence. And if they can prove that you hindered the investigation or crime you can be sent to prison with a hefty fine.
How did a roommate watch the alleged killer walk right by her, and she didn't call the cops, ever? She went back to bed, called a friend who came over hours and hours later and they called 911. Something tells me she knew the killer and didn't react.
I found that strange too … some think there were drugs around the house and she called over friends to clean up before calling 911?? That scenario sounds weird af too though 🤔
Kaylee wasn’t supposed to be there, she wasn’t in the same car as when she lived there… he was after Maddie. Kaylee surprised him and DID have defensive wounds! The dog was a puppy, not going to attack anyone. Xana was up waiting for food delivery, I think her and Ethan were killed first. Yes, one person was able to do this! My question are; why no trace of blood outside of the house?, How could Dylan think the horrific sounds she heard were coming from a party? WHY WAS THE HOUSE, WITH POSSIBLE MISSED DNA EVIDENCE TORN DOWN?!?!!!!!
You guys make an awful lot of assumptions. There's a whole raft of people who have continually looked into this case who would disagree with you on so many levels. Don't say that things are actual when it hasn't been shown to be the case at all. Has it been proven that Bryan broke into his coworkers apt and moved things around? Don't say this is the case based purely on your faulty speculation.
It also makes little sense that Xana, who told her dad at midnight that she and Ethan were eating pizza, would call DoorDash at 2 AM for a 4 AM delivery. So many of these puzzle pieces simply do not fit.
@@YohielSpeaks I totally feel the Doordash is a plant to put off the timeline. Like what are the odds there is a doordash right at the time of the murders?
@@reesebn38 exactly. These four, they were going DOWN as a lesson & as protection of the trafficking crew. Maddie, 2:19a.m. Kaylee at the end, 4:21a.m. Ethan & Xana in between, 2:41a.m. Then some cleanup & waiting to call for 'help'. Just arrest Dylan Quinn Emma & Demetrius. < < < < All accomplices.
Been following this for some time. The house was a drug house. Suppliers were involved. Drugs were dumped. People were killed. This was going on for some time.
apparently you know something his attorney doesn't then because he's still sitting in jail without bond and he gave up his right to a speedy trial. I'm guessing there's more evidence than social media and stalking.
I agree! It makes no sense a stranger going into a party house to murder, and not murdering the last 2? Who knows who would be in the house at any time. There was a new car in the driveway that night. Have you seen the Bodycam footage of the Cops going the the house 3 times for noise complaints. In one footage the Cops are lying and super creepy to Kaylee taking a picture of her ID with his camera.
@@erikaechostearns3966yea.. on social media because that’s what one of the parents said. He was definitely stalking them. He was driving by their house on multiple occasions in the month leading up to the murders.
@@Jazlin92665 that’s incorrect. The parents never said they were being stalked by him. He lived 15 miles from 1122 King Rd. he could actually ping from his apartment So no, he wasn’t driving around 1122 king
Unless they lift the gag order, the majority of what we're hearing about the case is speculation. We'll know a lot more in 11 months if/when the trial begins. The Dec 2022 4Chan posts are compelling and very detailed, but unsubstantiated. The Kopacka theory doesn't seem to make sense. If Kopacka was the culprit, it would have been much easier to place the blame on him rather than Bryan - no trial needed that way. The frat theory is unlikely, the two remaining Chapin siblings would have heard about it, Hunter Chapin is Sigma Chi. Stabbing 4 people in a short period of time is possible - Elliot Roger stabbed 3 roommates, changed his clothes and went on his shooting spree in the course of 30 minutes. The big questions about the case are: How is it possible Kohberger left the house without leaving a trial of blood either outside or in his car? He should have looked like Carrie at the prom by the time he was done. You can't just wear a jumpsuit, remove it and stick it into a bag in the back of your car without depositing trace amounts of DNA. You can't scrub a car clean of DNA, there are always traces and LE has the latest technology to draw samples from any location. Why did DM take 8 hours to call anyone, especially since she and Bethany were texting each other before and after the slayings? Did she really stay in her room for that long without going to the bathroom? Why did she call Hunter J in the morning rather than 911?
I agree. Too much evidence against it. He doesn't seem the type, they needed a scapegoat. It's a small town so of course he'd drive around. The 2 roommates who lived know something. The dog didn't attack for a reason.
Yet, he leaves a sheath behind with his single source DNA behind, Harvey. Plus, he refuses to be descriptive with his whereabouts in his alibi and he's facing the DP. Doesn't sound like Kohberger is innocent to me, Harvey. If I was facing the DP, I would be open and honest with the court and the public.
@@ArizonaSquatch Usually? 99% of the time? 85%? 75? You sure about that little sequence too (all in it are 'animals' btw)? Have you read the case files of every frenzy-killer that ever existed? Or are you just typing the first thing to enter your head?
@@Ashleylove1995 😆 sued for what? for their theory, opinion or free speech? I think he's guilty will I be sued? warning everyone do not say one man committed this crime or you will be sued.
5:29 come on be accurate! The State of Idaho has stated explicitly in court HE WASN'T STALKING ANYONE, WASN'T FOLLOWING THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA...its on youtube! PLEASE the STATE, the PROSECUTION has stated this in OPEN COURT. It's crucial because it makes this that much more weird...be accurate. Love you!
That's what I have a problem with!!! All that blood and only one print of his DNA on knife sheath? And like you said , none in the car?!?! Just doesn't seem possible
f you google maps the king rd address street view on the corner look at the power lines??? there are 3 different pairs of shoes hanging ??? in los angeles areas that means the drugs are here in the vicinity ???
I think that’s a universal thing lol not just in la… I don’t know any other meaning for shoes on the line, that’s drugs lol I thought everyone knew that lol
I see this all over the town. It’s very obnoxious. I used to think it was just kids goofing off until hearing online that it’s actually a drug and gang signal.
No way this was done by just one person. A key word is STAMINA. Just look at Kaylee her father Steve stated she was stabbed over 50 times plus her face was brutally beaten in. I believe this was all drug related. Don’t forget Dylan’s boyfriend Wuinn was pushing drugs thru the house and Maddie had thrown out a large amount of drugs. Finally don’t forget when Maddie and Kaylee were walking to the grub truck with Jack S.and Jack said to the girls THEY ARE GOING TO GET YOU GIRLS. Last remember the coroner stated there were stab plus slash wounds on the four. I believe that means there are more than one murder weapon! I believe there was more than one killer and I believe the two girls Dylan and Bethany know more than you think.
There have been plenty of mass murders with a knife in a single house. It happens. Take people by surprise one by one and it’s very possible. There have been entire family’s killed with a club in a small house and nobody heard it or escaped.
I can't believe it was Bryan. He wouldn't go into a house with 6 cars in the garage. I believe it was someone known to the 6 who had the password to the front door.
So much misinformation here... where do I begin??? Ethan was not found in the doorway. Xana was seen on the floor as LE approached her room. Ethan was either on the floor, unseen, or in the bed. Kaylee did not work at The Mad Greek, Maddie & Xana did. He went to Maddie's room, Kaylee was just bad luck, had fallen asleep there after alcohol and pasta. Kaylee had already moved out and had taken a marketing job in Texas. Dylan didn't walk out into the hallway the 3rd time when BK was passing her room, she peeked out. If he would have seen her, she would be dead. BK dropped the sheath on the 3rd floor in Maddie's bed, had nothing to do with attacking two additional people... probably fighting with an awakening Kaylee. He wasn't "stalking" (per the Prosecution), he was "surveilling", words matter. Stalking includes either threats, or unwanted advances multiple times. They didn't know who he was. The phone is more circumstantial evidence, the DNA on the button of the snap on the sheath nailed him. A huge thing not mentioned here... Kohberger's PhD stint was ending per email FOIA requests. WSU had him on a "plan" because of his behavior, and they were notifying him that he was failing that plan leading up to and at the time of the murders, specifically because of repeated arguments with a professor and grading issues. He had emotional issues that he wrote about in H.S. He talk more recently about visual white outs of sorts. The PhD was a chance to show the bullies, the females who rejected him, and everyone else that he was worthy, that he was smarter than they were. All this was collapsing. Add on if he tried to contact Maddie in person or via social and was rejected... he snapped. Google "kohberger bundy", and look at the side by side black and white photo... see the smirk? It's so eerie, it reeks guilt. Harvey is obsessed? Please!! 🤣
I read at one time that Ethan's body was against the door on the door keeping people from being able to get into the room. There have been so many different reports about how the victims were found that nothing makes any sense.
If you were told he saved a life then you would look at him different and Sy Ray’s testimony that has him at Wei Wei Park, a man whom has worked for the government. Moscow PD hasn’t finished their CAST report. Touch DNA is on sheath along with 2 other profiles, look as if you follow the Coffindaffer’s and Howard Blum’s book which could exonerate him since there is gag order it’s all speculative like “the smirk”
Ethan's mom has stated that Ethan was found on the bed. And there is interesting footage of a forensic officer entering the house that afternoon. If you pause it you can see what looks to be the end of a knife sheath in his hand with the rest up his sleeve.. planted!
Why is it taking so long for this case to go to trial? There’s possibly an innocent man sitting in jail for what, two years now? And wouldn’t there be a massive blood trail leaving the house?
True! Maddie and Xana's moms are informants, they made a deal with the FEDs to snitch on drug running in the area via the Aryan brotherhood (AB) . The fact the victims were killed with a knife sent a message to others not keep their mouths shut, using a knife is an MO of the AB.. AB in the area were busted a few months later, which is why the prosecution is refusing to hand over evidence in this case. I also think Brent Kolpackr was involved and had links to Brian Kohberger. I believe Kohberger is on the Autistic Spectrum and fell back into taking drugs when he went to WSU to help him cope with his social anxiety and having no support system around him and he met Brent Kolpakar in his his home state or while in WSU area and that is how his DNA got on the snap button of the knife sheath. As for the other 2 housemates not being murdered well Dylan Mortensen's family has connections either to the AB or LE or the DA. I also think LE used Kaylee as an informant and Dylan Mortensen lured Kaylee back to the area, Kaylee had already left WSU. The case stink to high heaven and BK was the perfect patsy.
@@Jazlin92665 You may be thinking way too small. Watch J. Embree for an intelligent, multi-dimensional breakdown of documented facts with names, dates and paperwork.
I believe it was a police officer, who knew that only women lived in that house and it would be easier to attack. That's why Dylan and Bethany didn't call the police out of fear. I don't believe that during the murders, Dylan opened the door and in the darkness, he saw eyebrows and the police didn't take any sketch of the person.
@@amyfischer6457 Then you have never wandered or spyed on anyone around 4 AM. Lol. 4-5 AM is the best time to move around unnoticed. People are usually in a deep sleep or very pre sleep twilight state of falling asleep. Expand your imagination ... Because he's the lone killer. You do realize that serial killers do it alone most of the time. And please don't respond with with something I already know, what we all know.. there were 4. There are serial killers who kill families or who take risks with time to do diabolical perverted things.
think three were already gone. Kaylee is the one left alive till after 4. Even toted back to 1122 for the finish. 2:45a.m. she is last housemate breathing. Other than Bethany who knew to avoid 1122. And Dylan the Conspirator. Who set up K.G.
I think he is framed as well. But I think it was the Frat Guys. I think all 4 were the targets. This felt personal. The 2 left alive were for a reason and they know a lot more than they are telling. 8 hours in a house with 4 dead people!? When they tore that house down you could see how thin the walls and floors were. The kids were killed 2 at a time. It would be chaos.
Why did the roommate down stairs let the alleged killer walk right by, without any reaction at all? She went back to bed, didn't notify the police. Then the only call she made was to a male friend who came over to check on her roommates. And then they called the police, about 10 hours after her encounter in the house. IMO, she knew the killer and it wasn't Brian.
Assumptions and speculation. You’re part of the problem. Spewing this nonsense. The guy was tech savvy, an expert(basicly) in cloud based forensics. And still brings his phone with him to take the lives of these victims? That’s not an oversight, but stupidity which is contradictory to BKs character. Like the people who came out and said he had to be the smartest guy in the room. It makes no sense if you think about it. The only half way decent evidence they have is touch dna, as far as the public knows( thanks to gag order) which can be unreliable and not useable in some other countries and even our military.
BK had the element of surprise and was able to use it effectively. You are assuming that the victims were screaming for their lives. I believe that he incapacitated them making them unable to scream. Ethan was more than likely sleeping and Xana was too frightened to even scream. DM saw him but I don’t believe he saw her, or he was too spent to continue with his spree. He has a history of having behavioral problems with women, this crime is reflective of this. He most definitely could have committed this crime by himself. Multiple people have confirmed that he needed to be the smartest guy in the room. He separated his trash from his family and put it in the neighbors bin. He avoided discussing the crime in class with his students and his behavior completely changed after the murders. The list just goes on and on. The totality of evidence has not been revealed yet and I believe that the state has much more that we don’t know about. Then you have the touch DNA on the knife sheath, Single source DNA at that. The receipt for the Dickies and rumor of a purchased KBar knife. No one can say he is absolutely guilty but it’s not like they just put this guy in jail for no reason. Justice must come for these beautiful souls Kaylee💛Maddie 🩷Xana💜Ethan💙
You repeat almost every unconfirmed rumor, treat it as a fact, and create your own little horror story. 1. You don't know what DM or BF actually saw or heard. 2. You don't know the victims' injuries or their capabilities. 3. There's no confirmed information about behavioral issues towards women. 4. There's no confirmation that he "had to be the smartest guy in every room." Even if some people claim this, it's subjective. Everyone had a classmate who participated and knew a lot; it can be annoying if it wasn't you. 5. It is unclear what he did in his parents' kitchen or how he sorted the trash. It's not unusual to use a neighbor's trash can with permission when yours is full. 6. There's no confirmed information that he avoided discussing the case with students. 7. There's no indication that the prosecutor can even prove the claims made in the PCA. It's unclear how anyone can conclude he will find these proofs by the September deadline and present additional evidence. That is wishful thinking and delusional. Have you watched the last three hearings? 8. It's not confirmed that he bought a knife or coverall. 9. Unfortunately, one can end up in jail quickly, especially when the public cheers unlawful and abusive behavior instead of holding the prosecution accountable. 10. Those who want justice for the victims hold the prosecution to the highest standard. Why believe a prosecutor lying for over 1.5 years (e.g., about evidence that suddenly appears the day before the hearing) lacks transparency and has gone from highly arrogant and loud to a silent, purple-faced mess? Why accept the waste of taxpayer money by the prosecution deliberately withholding evidence, risking its exclusion from the trial?
@@Romina1907. I literally said that it was my opinion. And I did not create a horror story, whoever killed these kids did. No one knows what happened in this crime except the cops, the killer and God above. BK left his DNA behind on a knife sheath underneath a victim, that is facts. It will all come out in court and I have no doubt that the right person will be convicted ✌🏻
Yo is this for real..?. Like this is from 3 days ago and ya’ll literally have your facts and information completely incorrect are you serious??? That’s your problem right there.. please do more research before putting out any more videos on this case. It’s been in the media for 18 months and ya’ll can’t find the real facts before uploading a video?? It’s not that hard. And you have a real life forensic psychologist sitting right there literally talking about ish that isn’t even true. Wow.
He was probably only aware of 3 girls Being there and didn’t know the dog was there either. DM also had moved to the second floor room not too long before that. So he may not have known she was there either. So if he had planned for time to kill 3 people, but encounter 4 and a dog, he knew he was out of time because the cops were not far away. He needed time to get out of that neighborhood in order to not run into the cops. He probably assumed the noise would Have caused the others to call.
He had the element of surprise, darkness, the choice of a knife over a gun (less noise), and premeditation. There’s nothing unexplained. He did it. He did it alone.
@@SherriLight-f6j It was by no means Ted Bundy's first murder scene, but he brutally attacked 4 women at a sorority house in Florida, killing 2, with a piece of firewood he found on the way in. There were about 30 women in the house, who heard nothing. I got all of that from the Ted Bundy wikipedia page.
BK was a wrestler in high school, he took martial arts training, he was a boxer, and he was a runner. (According to an acquaintance that occasionally ran with BK, BK regularly ran 7 miles at a time). BK was proficient with knives - he once had a job filleting fish. BK intensely studied serial killers like BTK and Ted Bundy, so he would know the fastest, stealthiest & most lethal ways to enter a residence and take a victim’s life. He even used a phrase similar to one used by Bundy with his victims, “I’m here to help you”. BK was COMPLETELY capable of committing these 4 crimes alone, in a very short length of time. I believe BK had one target in mind, and the others were collateral damage - he had no idea there were 6 people in the house. He had no idea which cars outside belonged to which people in the house (unless he had followed them, spied on them or learned about their cars through social media). BK had one target in mind - he did not plan to kill multiple people that night. He did not expect to find 2 people in 1 bed. The confusion and struggle probably caused him to drop the knife sheath and he didn’t realize he dropped it until later that morning (possibly why he returned to the scene at 9 AM, thinking it might be outside on the ground, dropped as he fled the scene). He did not expect a dog in the house - let alone a barking dog. He was not aware there was another full-grown adult male in the house (Ethan), or an awake roommate (Xana). In his exhaustion after struggling with & offing 4 people, I don’t believe he even saw DM. There is a plethora of cellular, surveillance, online and forensic data the FBI collected & owns, from up to 4 different states (Idaho, Washington, Colorado, and Pennsylvania). The FBI will release when they are ready - after it has been analyzed, thoroughly reviewed, drawn up into a summary and report, graphics made, and after it receives final approval from supervisors. Wait & see…
That was & is the plan,the more bizarre a case becomes the more likely nothing will ever make sense,LE is corrupt to began with ,so your never going to get answeres on what really happened! This was done to cause fear & confusion ,that's clearly wat it has done !
Why are you still saying he was there 12 times when the state has said he was not stalking them. Go thru PCA and cross off all that does not apply now. There’s no case.
So much incorrect information being presented as fact.
What false information???
@@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay
1) Sylas, Jami, and Harvey ponder that two or three people were murdered in their sleep. Actually, it appears that only one person, Maddie, was asleep, and all three of the other victims were murdered while awake. Kaylee's parents have stated in interviews that they were told Kaylee had several defensive wounds.
2) Harvey mentioned Kohberger's cell phone pings in the area, several times before the date of the murders and repeated the common theory that Kohberger was checking out the area. However, this is just speculation and some people following the case disagree with it; they've instead proposed that Kohberger's previous visits to the area were not to "scope the area out" but to actually commit the murder, and then backing down and driving back home.
3) Harvey says that Kohberger walked into the house "knowing there were 6 people in there". Actually, we don't know if he knew how many people were in the house, and the prevailing theory is that he didn't expect that many people. (Ninette touches on that, to her credit).
my thoughts exactly
@@Sunshine-is_here_to_stayjust about everything they stated here
I agree! If you watch crime circus you learn so so so much more and real facts not these cops and RUclips people. Your mind will be blown
None of this makes sense, you guys aren’t stating facts only speculations , the 12 pings were in a 10 to 29 mile radius not even close to the house
Triangulation of cell tower data can narrow that down significantly, plus FBI CAST analysis can narrow it down even more.
@@catspajamas2961 that wasnt done though. which is the problem...
@@catspajamas2961I believe the cast proves otherwise. I really do.
@@davidreph5210 Of course it was done. Triangulation is basic. If a CAST analysis was not done, why was Ann Talyor demanding it be turned over to her?
@@Hockeyguy77 meta data proves he was at Wa Wai Park not at 1122 King rd
You ppl are spreading misinformation. He did not stalk those ppl. You have a duty to report the truth. Don't any of you watch the court proceedings. Shane on you all!
Y'all are watching TMZ expecting actual Journalism??!! 😂😂😂
@@jinvid The oddest, worst format I've ever seen and what else? All false information. How is this show even popular?
Electronic surveillance is a different style of "stalking "
Not the physical act of a person being aware of having their actions monitored ..
When the prosecution says there is no evidence that he was stalking anyone, they mean they can't prove it. It doesn't matter what you know, it matters what you can prove. They can prove that he was at the scene because his DNA was on a knife sheath that likely contained the murder weapon. No amount of Ann Taylor's gaslighting is going to alter the fact that DNA doesn't lie. Period. But without physical evidence, such as a prior police report or corroborating witnesses, the prosecution can't say that he was stalking anyone. However, he had to have been keeping tabs on someone in that house.
@@Tee-rj5cq calm down pro turder
AND WHY DID THEY DESTROY THE HOUSE SO. FAST????
Probably because the town didn't want the house to be spectacle and draw more attention. They made a 3D model/rendering of the house, which will be used in court
Because they weren't killed in that house
@@y2y66 You're a duhm hass
To hide the real evidence
@y2y66
Say more.. what is your theory?
They knocked the house down, completely then they removed all the pieces of the house, took it to a un-disclosed location location and buried it. WHY??? There are kids dying left and right here , please help us, and help bring the truth to the surface. Don't let these kids die in vain. Please, there are secrets here that need to be told. Be the hero, for a town that's too afraid to speak. This guy is a fall guy. Dig into this further, please, please, please, there is so much that you do not know here. You tube has many video's on this ... Please look, Please find , Please help.
They were murdered by people close to them.
That right there is a RED FLAG!!!
OK fine whatever they destroyed the crime scene prior to a trial even having a date for the students emotional well being blah blah blah but explain why they did this to the remains of the house!
Exactly why they buried the entire content of the demolitioned house 6 to 10 feet down at an undisclosed location speaks volumes as far as I'm concerned.
I agree with you 💯 😮
❤ I will keep looking & I really hope we can move mountains by working together
There’s A LOT more to this story for sure.
In every crime there is more to the story, doesn't mean they are all conspiracy theories.
true. It was a party and drugs house
I absolutely believe that Bryan Kohberger is innocent! A white Elantra was found in Oregon 8 hours after the murders! It was left in the middle of the highway with all 4 doors left open. I think that was the getaway car! It was finally listed as the owner was from Moscow, Idaho.
@@bbe3034 Good thing you're not a juror then lol
@@vegefranzyou have proof it was a drug house?
They NEVER ONCE CONFIRMED he broke in ANYWHERE. Omg the misinfo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You don’t have to break in when a doors unlocked.
Yeah! Make sure to defend Turdburger! LMFAO!
Right??? This disinformation is CRAZY!
Then they ask me to believe that the former boyfriend drove from North of Moscow. To Boise in 5 hours. In winter, snow flying, windy dangerous icy roads, regularly patrolled by Sheriffs and Idaho State patrol
It never happened. Driver would have to be going 90mph.
Drives me insane!!!!
TMZ does not have the correct information. That house was a major party house.
I stopped watching them years ago. I thought they retired
They literally said that in the video.
So, it was a college house and they were college students, good students
What's your point?????
3 of the kids parents spent time in Prison, and SG is seeing time for murder...this entire thing that they were these all American kids..BS,
if you are going to report on this case, get the facts right. it has been proven in court that he was NOT stalking the victims. he lived 8 miles away, the phone pings are completely irrelevant and can't be corroborated
And they said that Kaylee and Madi worked at the vegan restaurant. It was Madi and Xana.
@@pocketfullofsunshine1 exactly, proven in court that there was no stalking, proven in court that there was no connection on social media, he did not break into a girl's apartment, on and on... for a news outlet that consider's themselves on the cutting edge, they certainly didn't dig deep here and are merely spouting the mainstream narrative...
Omg exactly, watching this just made me so upset
Coming from Harvey this is just pure laziness.
@@pocketfullofsunshine1right. This is cliff notes from media garbage before Court Trial had an official date for summer. Nice try TMZ
yall are spewing so much false information here!
😆 is that you Brian? Lol
@@ArizonaSquatch lol
@TOES-oo7 lol hi. TMZ can't ever state facts. I have a lot of questions about this case. First off, how can an alleged eyewitness watch a dude in all black walk right by her, in her own home, and she doesn't seem alarmed by that at all? Secondly she went back to bed, only to call friends to come over to check on her roommates! It's as if she knew the person, that's why she didn't react. I surely would've reacted and called the cops immediately. But it was like 8+ hours later.
@@ArizonaSquatch Let me break it down to you ... The police had already been there many times before .. SO dylan wasn't sure if this man was a friend or party goer or even the D _ O _ P_ E man .. Are you gonna call the cops when your friends could get into serious trouble for being LOUD again if its nothing ?? NO .. I think she wasn't sure and was scared so she went and spent the rest of the night at Bethany's room and they probably put things infront of the door to keep any intruder out .. Dylan gives us hints of this saying .. I ORIGINALLY went to sleep on the second floor .. So that one word originally tells me .. she ended somewhere else that night .. She probably got to sleep around 5 am .. And probably woke around 10 am .. AND not getting her roomies to answer their phones .. she called over a friend to check the house ... IMO
@@ArizonaSquatchexactly.
How can 4 people not react vocally
He wasn’t stalking them! Per the Prosecutor!
Reportedly Idaho has a specific legal definition for stalking, where the target must be aware that they are being stalked. So if the girls didn't know about it, it wasn't legally stalking.
@@catspajamas2961 That is ridiculous, makes no sense at all. What was said in the hearing to the defense witness expert by Bill Thompson was “I think we’re both aware he was not stalking them” and “I think we can all agree that the PCA is irrelevant” all said during the cross from Bill. So, whether the definition of stalking is actually defined by not knowing your being stalked or not… which in fact most people are not aware they’re being stalked until a confrontation of sorts happens… it didn’t apply to the context of questioning. Because the witness was the expert who was doing the survey questions where he asked specifically to people if they had hear BK was stalking the victims. Which is where BT stated there was no actual stalking. While I see the narrow craggy jagged slope this ledge is, I’m not taking that path. And I’m not buying what the prosecutor is selling….
@@LS-ny8mr Google stalking Idaho. Their definition is extremely clear. If you think it's ridiculous, take it up with Idaho.
@@catspajamas2961 This desperate attempt falls flat, considering there's no evidence of any relationship between Kohberger and the victims. There is also no evidence of him being at the house. I know this information is hard for many people to accept, but a man's life is at stake. He's been in jail for over 1.5 years, and his defense still hasn't received all the "evidence" despite requesting it repeatedly. Enough is enough.
Absolutely 100% correct@@LS-ny8mr
Wow. There is a lot of misinformation here.
Lot's of it. Bad reporting at best.
All of this is BS.
It wasn’t a vegan restaurant they had a couple of vegan dishes
@@LS-ny8mr The Mad Greek🤣😂🤣have you looked at the menu or watched the court proceedings? The Judge and prosecutor Bill Thompson said He DID NOT STALK THE VICTIMS
Yeah but when you look up vegan food in that place it comes up as top spot
@@erikaechostearns3966 ummm yeah I know. She said mad Greek was a vegan restaurant and is saying BK stalked them from there. I am confused at what your saying… I know what Bill said I watch every hearing and have followed the case from day one so I have no idea what you’re talking about… so what is your beef
@@LS-ny8mr then why are you repeating yourself? If you know it wasn’t a vegan restaurant & know that BK wasn’t stalking the victims nor proof he ever had been their you know theirs a gag order and he has an alibi. Who are you referring to as “she?” This shows how inept the mass media is at informative journalism. They didn’t mention touch DNA which never has been used against anyone in a case except 1 where the man was in the same ambulance as the deceased but found to be innocent. The more misinformation he could be exonerated so whether you believe in his innocence or not the he might walk the case will grow cold. I’m from the NW and most of the tenants are from Coure deAlene which was the Aryian Brotherhood church, and why is Goncalves family making $$ off their dead child. I’ve had a family member murdered in a big case that was on 60 minutes to LA times, and we made nothing off her death it’s gross, and fictional writer Blum is the only crime writer that had put a book and supposedly a movie and series and Goncalves family are angry they won’t make $$. Don’t forget the numerous bank accounts and Hex bitcoin Ponzi scheme they advertise. TMZ is fake obviously
@@LS-ny8mr if you been following the case then why make a basic comment that everyone is aware of since the day of the murders everyone knew where 2 of the victims worked, and Mad Greek isn’t just vegan its origins are in Alaska, mostly hamburgers and pizza
The prosecution stated he did not stalk the victims, and there is no evidence to support the idea he had been anywhere near the home previously. Also, the prosecution acknowledged that there is no social media connection. This case doesn't make sense at all. 4 killings in 8 minutes makes zero sense.
My husband went out to hundreds of crime scenes. Happens all the time, sadly.
Talk about speculation? This is pure nonsense-no facts here.
What did he say wasn't facts?
@@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay None of the speculation about how the four were murdered was confirmed fact. There hasn't been a trial or plea deal yet.
@@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay these are NOT facts the fact he wasn’t stalking the victims or the facts it’s a $ clickbait after a sensationalized book was released. It’s all speculative especially with a gag order trial isn’t until a year from now the fact he has a alibi in WeiWei park or the fact you obviously haven’t read the PCA or the fact the FBI nor LE “ followed “ him or the fact his father bought ticket to drive back to Pennsylvania before the murders or the fact he has no DNA or anything at his apartment or job that connects him to the murders, or the fact innocent until proven guilty
No one knows the truth!!! You are spreading lies that have already been confirmed as lies by the prosecution, and then some. THIS IS MADNESS! Sad for the defendant who hasn't had a trial yet.
This is tmz and only thing that matters isn't the truth it's clicks, views and cash is all they care about lol truth is the last thing these peoples minds
So much speculation. Keep to the facts.
He did. And what he is saying is making alot if sense
@Sunshine-is_here_to_stay Bryan Kohberger didn't do this do some research 😘
Fact: No victim´s DNA anywhere in his car, on his clothes or his house...
The so called facts dont line up... we arent getting the real facts
It's TMZ.
So a PhD student in Criminology, specializing in Cloud Based Forensics is dumb enough to drive his own car to commit a heinous crime? I don't buy it.
These guys get zoned in, they have a psychological "high" as they are about to commit the crime. Very easy to make mistakes in that heightened, frenzied state of mind.
Kudos. It wasn't Kohberger. This was a drug cartel hit.
@@alexandrawalsh8844 no way he would have drove his car and take his phone to do this .. no way
Exactly and walks in with a knife inside a knife sheath. Would you not just walk in with a knife? The person knew the layout of that place to be able to move so fast. Not much noise as the other girls heard hardly anything. The girl said she froze so why not call 911 if that guy terrified her. He surely knew there were cameras around when he was driving because he knew the house layout and where they were when he entered. Blood everywhere but no DNA in his car. We had a case in our country where a son killed his mom, dad, brother but sister survived with an axe. He said a person entered the place and he fought them off and lay on the ground for 8 hours before calling police.
smart people can be stupid at the same time, there are millions of educated americans that still vote democrat, my mother is a maths professor yet she has gambled all her money away over the last 30 yrs, smart and stupid in the same mind, smart students can do stupid things too,
He was NOT following them on SM, the court...the STATE literally already confirmed that.
Yup. This was a drug cartel hit. Not Kohberger.
He did something for they have him locked up.
Well, we haven't seen the evidence. The lawyers creed
"It depends "
Because the wheels of justice turns slowly
Correct. It was proven that someone using Kohberger s name etc went and opened up fake accounts on Facebook and Instagram using his details.
3:30- Maddie and Kaylee didn't work at the vegan restaurant, Maddie and Xana did.
Omg did he say Maddy and Kaylee?😮 I switched it off before that
It wasn’t vegan restaurant but they had vegan dishes.
Correct Maddie and Xana, but it offered some vegan dishes however it was n9t a vegan establishment.
This was a drug hit!
@@y2y66 If it was a drug hit, how come no drugs were found in the house or in the system of the victims? The toxicology report would've said this. Also, why would the people involved let two victims live? Drug cartels merder everyone involved. 🤦♂️😂
Insider here. The gag order is so intense that University of Idaho professors down to janitors have been ordered to never talk about this case.
Don’t forget the University demanded that the house be destroyed, along with any leftover evidence.
NANCY GRACELESS HAS SPEAD A LOT OF LIES ABOUT THIS CASE, *IN MY OPINION*.
I do not like Nancy Grace . I remember her covering murder case, and I watched the trial. I cannot remember which one it was, but, she was trashing the person and saying how guilty he was. Then I watched the trial and I felt the person was not guilty and the person was found not guilty. That is when I, just couldn’t stand listening to Nancy Grace because she is such a know it all without really having all the facts in her hand.
@@thehollyberry7975 That's what that mouth does best!
The Goncalves's have too and now TMZ.... This has become ridiculous.
@@Grouch1111 I’ve never seen a case with more lies than this one. It is insane.
This Is An Absolute Joke. Miss info from start To End. The only thing that’s Factually Correct. Is Idaho 4 Brian Koberger. That’s about it. I can Prove That Every Point A bold Face Lie.
Right?! Such a disappointment
Whats a good source? im new to the case but the uprise caught my attention after k.r.
@@patriciarobainamourid6597 honestly It’s difficult. The PCA isn’t even correct. The Cell Pings Are Misleading Prosecutors and LE both said Under oath. He Never Stalked or had Any comection via Social Media. Look up this case. That Just Happened in 22 the same ISP a Detectives. That are in The Idaho 4
State of Idaho VS Daniel Lee Moore
@@patriciarobainamourid6597 You can start by watching the hearings, especially the ones with Sy Ray being questioned. Sy Ray explains using tower and other evidence that Kohberger wasn't even in Moscow. The hearing where the survey guy is being questioned is where Bill Thompson admits there was no stalking. The hearing where Mowery and Payne are questioned is very enlightening. There we find out that the PCA is a joke put together by an inexperienced officer. We find out that evidence was withheld from the defense that Thompson said they did not have, but was miraculously found and given to the defense the day before the hearing. As far as YT channels go. I watch Truth and Transparency (She delves deep) and Harsh Reality.
IMO, Bryan Kohberger was NEVER inside that house. In addition, the 2 survivors were TEXTING EACH OTHER, WHILE THE HOMICIDES WERE HAPPENING.
Exactly!!
The girl downstairs who watched the alleged killer stroll right by her, and did nothing until about 10 hours later knows more than she's admitting.
@@ArizonaSquatchI think that what the girl on the first floor knows is in the notes of the investigators which is why the detective for the defense team wrote an affidavit in support of a subpoena for her to testify in the preliminary hearing in 2023 back when it was still scheduled and she got a lawyer and fought the subpoena and she and her lawyer in exchange of the defense dropping the subpoena agreed to met with BK’s defense team right before the grand jury indictment came down.
Drug cartel hit.
@@alexandrawalsh8844If it was a drug cartels hit, how come no trace of drugs were found?
This video is full of incorrect information:
-The people in the house were not asleep. This has been proven by the PCA in which the surviving roommates stated she heard Maddie & Kaylee talking and playing with the dog and she heard talking from Xana's room. The PCA also stated that Xana was on TikTok at 4:12 am. The white elantra is seen speeding away at 4:26 am. There is no way the surviving roommates didn't hear what happened. In fact, that is why it is stated in the PCA that DM opened her door three times to see what was going on. She saw the killer, in a mask, clear enough to see his eyebrows. There is no way she didn't see the trail of blood. Yet, she didn't call 911 and texted her friends instead. How did she know the killer wouldn't come back for her? That alone was reason enough to call 911. Its like she knew she didn't have anything to worry about. And then, even after seeing the blood and dead bodies, she called her friends over instead of police, allowing the crime scene to be contaminated. There is no way to determine who and what came in and out of the house that morning. And then when the defense subpoenaed her to testify at the preliminary hearing, she hired an attorney to fight the subpoena. If she cared at all about her friends that were killed, she would happily do whatever it took to make sure their killer was brought to justice. With friends like DM, who needs enemies?
-No evidence that BK followed the victims on social media or that he had any connection to them whatsoever. This was even stated in Court.
-Kaylee had already moved out of the house and was only visiting to show them her new car so, she couldn't have been the target.
-Law enforcement found no DNA whatsoever in BKs car, apartment, office at WSU or at his parent's house in PA...impossible if he committed the crimes. In fact, if you watch the body cam footage from when he was pulled over driving to PA, you can clearly see his car was absolutely filthy and had not been cleaned at all in quite sometime.
-The coroner stated it was the bloodiest crime scene she'd experienced in her entire career. Blood was dripping down the exterior of the house. Yet, there were no bloody footprints leading outside in the snow...impossible. Law enforcement is basically claiming these 4 people were killed in less than 15 minutes. Its not like the killer would've had time to change clothes and clean up, especially with 2 people still alive in the house.
-No one would walk into a huge, 6 bedroom home to kill people with a knife, much less walk in with the knife still in the sheath. A killer wouldn't have even brought the sheath in. The residents of the home could've had guns, anything. A killer would value their own life first and would not walk into a huge, multilevel home with a single knife.
-No evidence that BK broke into a neighbors apartment.
-Cell tower pings in rural areas do not accurately determine location. BKs attorney stated in Court that they have the actual GPS data from BKs phone which will show he was not in the area the night of the murders. Why didn't law enforcement obtain actual GPS data instead of unreliable cell tower pings?
-The DNA of two other unidentified males was found in the home but law enforcement will not release their identities.
-Maddies step-mom and Xanas mom were both arrested on serious drug charges a couple months before the murders. Idaho/Washington are huge drug hubs because its home to a branch of the aryan brotherhood gang, called the aryan knights. They make a lot of money selling drugs to the college students at U of I and WSU. Well, in the two weeks before the murders, Maddies stepmom and Xanas mom snitched on the gang and took plea deals. All of this information is 100% verifiable online. I'm happy to post links for anyone that is interested. The favorite number of the aryan brotherhood is 13. The favorite number of the aryan knights is 11. They get it tattooed on them as gang identifiers. The murders occurred on 11/13. So here you have 2 victims, Xana & Maddie, the only 2 out of the 4 that were actually supposed to be there that night, and they both have parents that snitched on aryan knight members and took plea deals, just a week or two before the murders occurred......And Xanas dad came over the weekend before the murders to change the locks on her apartment door...too much to be coincidence.
This video is unbelievable. It’s like the rumors from the first months, or moron Howard Blum. Your comment should be way higher. The evidence against Bryan is so thin he shouldn’t even be in jail.
@Susiehighschool I follow a page that researches serial killers. It's the same for many past serial killers. The evidence is very thin. It's also a lot of evidence to link them to other people who helped. He won't be the first to go to prison to cover up bigger crimes.
@@Roosters-rants1977 Absolutely true
@@Susiehighschool I'm surprised more people didn't acknowledge my comment too. Just goes to show people have already convicted this guy in their minds despite the lack of sufficient evidence and despite the evidence that shows there are other people that should have been looked at harder. Its very sad and a failure to our justice system.
@@Roosters-rants1977 The fact that both Maddie and Xanas moms snitched on gang members and took plea deals just two weeks before the murders is too hard to ignore. Its shocking that this hasn't been talked about in the main stream media.
Been following this case as well and something is definitely sus
🤔 BK did NOT have the power to STOP DM and BF from calling the police for 8 HOURS 🤔. I wonder who did?,!.
It doesn't matter. They are not required to call police just like you don't have to call police when you drive by a car accident.
@@Pllm30Wrong! They were required. There’s a law about that.
@@Pllm30 👈🏾WHO raised you, 👀?? A quick google search of Idaho State Law would’ve told you that it’s punishable by a fine and up to 6 months in jail. And they can prove you hindered the investigation or crime, it’s a felony punishable by prison time and a much bigger fine.
@@lightgraphs The law varies from State to State. In Idaho, it turns out that failure to report a crime is not illegal.
@@YohielSpeaksWRONG. A quick google search would have told you that not reporting a MURDER in Idaho could result it a fine a 6 month jail sentence. And if they can prove that you hindered the investigation or crime you can be sent to prison with a hefty fine.
How did a roommate watch the alleged killer walk right by her, and she didn't call the cops, ever? She went back to bed, called a friend who came over hours and hours later and they called 911. Something tells me she knew the killer and didn't react.
It's not that complicated to understand. They have fuck boys around that house all the time. Nothing strange about a guy walking by
dm let bk in
I found that strange too … some think there were drugs around the house and she called over friends to clean up before calling 911?? That scenario sounds weird af too though 🤔
You have proof of that? Sorry wrong.even Steve G said the lock was broke.stop@@user-ik4br3nk2w
@@anh1192there is no way she would have guessed that 4 of her friends are killed
They obviously don't care about the facts all they want is the clicks. They have this all wrong
I guess it’s TMZ after all
The fraternity has something to do with it!! Maybe even the police 👮
@@kellyallport2317 🤨
Kaylee wasn’t supposed to be there, she wasn’t in the same car as when she lived there… he was after Maddie. Kaylee surprised him and DID have defensive wounds! The dog was a puppy, not going to attack anyone. Xana was up waiting for food delivery, I think her and Ethan were killed first. Yes, one person was able to do this! My question are; why no trace of blood outside of the house?, How could Dylan think the horrific sounds she heard were coming from a party? WHY WAS THE HOUSE, WITH POSSIBLE MISSED DNA EVIDENCE TORN DOWN?!?!!!!!
You guys make an awful lot of assumptions. There's a whole raft of people who have continually looked into this case who would disagree with you on so many levels. Don't say that things are actual when it hasn't been shown to be the case at all.
Has it been proven that Bryan broke into his coworkers apt and moved things around? Don't say this is the case based purely on your faulty speculation.
It also makes little sense that Xana, who told her dad at midnight that she and Ethan were eating pizza, would call DoorDash at 2 AM for a 4 AM delivery. So many of these puzzle pieces simply do not fit.
In 8 mins?
@@YohielSpeaks I totally feel the Doordash is a plant to put off the timeline. Like what are the odds there is a doordash right at the time of the murders?
@@reesebn38 exactly. These four, they were going DOWN as a lesson & as protection of the trafficking crew. Maddie, 2:19a.m. Kaylee at the end, 4:21a.m.
Ethan & Xana in between, 2:41a.m. Then some cleanup & waiting to call for 'help'.
Just arrest Dylan Quinn Emma & Demetrius. < < < < All accomplices.
Been following this for some time. The house was a drug house. Suppliers were involved. Drugs were dumped. People were killed. This was going on for some time.
explain your theory with more detail
Party house gone wrong because of a drug debt
Aryan Nation. Aryan Family. Aryan circle. Look it up. A bunch got busted in March.
Bs
@@Kkay2490 exactly!!!
There’s no proof he was following any of them or stalking no proof he was following any on social media either , it’s all rumors
@@Hockeyguy77 that’s true there is no proof that’s why the PCA is no longer valid because it’s full of holes according to Bill Thompson
apparently you know something his attorney doesn't then because he's still sitting in jail without bond and he gave up his right to a speedy trial. I'm guessing there's more evidence than social media and stalking.
@@Hockeyguy77 and dumping his garbage in neighbors can?
It's all based on their opinions.😂😂😂
So Kaylee's parents were lying when they said Kohberger was liking all of Maddie's pics way more than Kaylee's?
I’m still wondering what ever came of that “skinned” dog that was found a week or so before the murders.
And also someone took a neighbor's panties or something like that
Yeahhhh
Neighbors car was broke into way earlier in the year, before he moved to Pullman. Panties found stuffed in a cup holder or something.
Also there are ring camera photos of a man in a ski mask.
@@Anita_BackrubDid you see it?
The frats committed the crime.
I don't think so. If they did, the two Chapin siblings would have heard about it. Hunter is Sigma Chi.
You have proof? Videos please.
@@aisle_of_view Look how strange the Chapins are acting. Why would you send them back to that school?
I agree! It makes no sense a stranger going into a party house to murder, and not murdering the last 2? Who knows who would be in the house at any time. There was a new car in the driveway that night. Have you seen the Bodycam footage of the Cops going the the house 3 times for noise complaints. In one footage the Cops are lying and super creepy to Kaylee taking a picture of her ID with his camera.
Six against one really
In fifteen minutes
Bill Thompson said the PCA no longer valid
7 minutes and Bill Thompson also said”Kohberger wasn’t stalking the victims” in court
It was 4. Where did you read that it was 6 against one.? I believe he could have done it in 5. Probably only took seconds to kill each one.
@@erikaechostearns3966yea.. on social media because that’s what one of the parents said. He was definitely stalking them. He was driving by their house on multiple occasions in the month leading up to the murders.
@@Jazlin92665 there were six people in the house one person committed the crime
@@Jazlin92665 that’s incorrect. The parents never said they were being stalked by him.
He lived 15 miles from 1122 King Rd. he could actually ping from his apartment
So no, he wasn’t driving around 1122 king
Unless they lift the gag order, the majority of what we're hearing about the case is speculation. We'll know a lot more in 11 months if/when the trial begins. The Dec 2022 4Chan posts are compelling and very detailed, but unsubstantiated. The Kopacka theory doesn't seem to make sense. If Kopacka was the culprit, it would have been much easier to place the blame on him rather than Bryan - no trial needed that way. The frat theory is unlikely, the two remaining Chapin siblings would have heard about it, Hunter Chapin is Sigma Chi. Stabbing 4 people in a short period of time is possible - Elliot Roger stabbed 3 roommates, changed his clothes and went on his shooting spree in the course of 30 minutes.
The big questions about the case are: How is it possible Kohberger left the house without leaving a trial of blood either outside or in his car? He should have looked like Carrie at the prom by the time he was done. You can't just wear a jumpsuit, remove it and stick it into a bag in the back of your car without depositing trace amounts of DNA. You can't scrub a car clean of DNA, there are always traces and LE has the latest technology to draw samples from any location. Why did DM take 8 hours to call anyone, especially since she and Bethany were texting each other before and after the slayings? Did she really stay in her room for that long without going to the bathroom? Why did she call Hunter J in the morning rather than 911?
I agree. Too much evidence against it. He doesn't seem the type, they needed a scapegoat. It's a small town so of course he'd drive around. The 2 roommates who lived know something. The dog didn't attack for a reason.
Exactly! But he will not have a fair trail, the case is too big. They need someone to blame.
@@shizurufujino190 True. Everyone made up their mind on speculation and rumors. Sad. Hard to get a fair trial there.
@@zenawarrior7442 it's a poodle ...
Every murderer has a first rodeo
They usually start with animals, birds, then cats and dogs and then it escalates to humans.
Yet, he leaves a sheath behind with his single source DNA behind, Harvey. Plus, he refuses to be descriptive with his whereabouts in his alibi and he's facing the DP. Doesn't sound like Kohberger is innocent to me, Harvey.
If I was facing the DP, I would be open and honest with the court and the public.
@@ArizonaSquatch Usually? 99% of the time? 85%? 75? You sure about that little sequence too (all in it are 'animals' btw)? Have you read the case files of every frenzy-killer that ever existed?
Or are you just typing the first thing to enter your head?
This show was a shocking proof of ridiculous stamens from people who are misinformed about the real facts except Harvey.
Did Kohberger ride bulls, was he in rodeos?
nothing about th case makes sense
This Case stinks. One person did not do this
If that's the case, why wouldn't Kohberger say who else helped him? Especially if he's facing the DP.
Not sure about that. Elliot Roger very quickly stabbed and killed his three roommates.
No one man didn't commit these crimes TMZ will be sued 😢
@@Ashleylove1995 😆 sued for what? for their theory, opinion or free speech? I think he's guilty will I be sued? warning everyone do not say one man committed this crime or you will be sued.
@@lavernhall7535 no sued when they find out he didn't do this and multiple people are involved in these murders smart one u are so immature grow up
Been following this case since day one. Something is very wrong in Moscow Idaho.
not wrong. It's just that the cartel hired moscow & idaho state cops as lookouts. no biggy
@@timewa851Yes. It’s a creepy little college town.
5:29 come on be accurate! The State of Idaho has stated explicitly in court HE WASN'T STALKING ANYONE, WASN'T FOLLOWING THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA...its on youtube! PLEASE the STATE, the PROSECUTION has stated this in OPEN COURT. It's crucial because it makes this that much more weird...be accurate. Love you!
I am glad you said it!! How Can one person do this and not leave any blood
In their car or anywhere?!!! Something is off with this case.
That's impossible. Can't happen
Like they’re framing him
That's what I have a problem with!!! All that blood and only one print of his DNA on knife sheath? And like you said , none in the car?!?! Just doesn't seem possible
f you google maps the king rd address street view on the corner look at the power lines??? there are 3 different pairs of shoes hanging ??? in los angeles areas that means the drugs are here in the vicinity ???
Well Moscow Idaho is nothing like LA.
I think that’s a universal thing lol not just in la… I don’t know any other meaning for shoes on the line, that’s drugs lol I thought everyone knew that lol
I see this all over the town. It’s very obnoxious. I used to think it was just kids goofing off until hearing online that it’s actually a drug and gang signal.
The shoes thing is just something all over. A prank.
What does that prove?
Frat did this . Not BK
Unlikely. The Chapin kids would have heard about it. Hunter is Sigma Chi.
You think frat boys are successfully keeping this secret? Hilarious. Nice imagination.
💯
Finally someone is saying what I think. He didn’t do this alone!
a lot of people (myself included) say that this was not done by one person
No way this was done by just one person. A key word is STAMINA. Just look at Kaylee her father Steve stated she was stabbed over 50 times plus her face was brutally beaten in. I believe this was all drug related. Don’t forget Dylan’s boyfriend Wuinn was pushing drugs thru the house and Maddie had thrown out a large amount of drugs. Finally don’t forget when Maddie and Kaylee were walking to the grub truck with Jack S.and Jack said to the girls THEY ARE GOING TO GET YOU GIRLS. Last remember the coroner stated there were stab plus slash wounds on the four. I believe that means there are more than one murder weapon! I believe there was more than one killer and I believe the two girls Dylan and Bethany know more than you think.
There have been plenty of mass murders with a knife in a single house. It happens. Take people by surprise one by one and it’s very possible. There have been entire family’s killed with a club in a small house and nobody heard it or escaped.
The Mad Greek is NOT a vegan restaurant. Oh, and there is no evidence that he broke into that women's apt. Do actual research.
I can't believe it was Bryan. He wouldn't go into a house with 6 cars in the garage. I believe it was someone known to the 6 who had the password to the front door.
This murder will never solve if they keep looking for copper as the only suspect! I think they need to dig deeper and look after the survivors girls
Drug cartel hit.
So much misinformation here... where do I begin???
Ethan was not found in the doorway. Xana was seen on the floor as LE approached her room. Ethan was either on the floor, unseen, or in the bed.
Kaylee did not work at The Mad Greek, Maddie & Xana did.
He went to Maddie's room, Kaylee was just bad luck, had fallen asleep there after alcohol and pasta. Kaylee had already moved out and had taken a marketing job in Texas.
Dylan didn't walk out into the hallway the 3rd time when BK was passing her room, she peeked out. If he would have seen her, she would be dead.
BK dropped the sheath on the 3rd floor in Maddie's bed, had nothing to do with attacking two additional people... probably fighting with an awakening Kaylee.
He wasn't "stalking" (per the Prosecution), he was "surveilling", words matter. Stalking includes either threats, or unwanted advances multiple times. They didn't know who he was.
The phone is more circumstantial evidence, the DNA on the button of the snap on the sheath nailed him.
A huge thing not mentioned here... Kohberger's PhD stint was ending per email FOIA requests. WSU had him on a "plan" because of his behavior, and they were notifying him that he was failing that plan leading up to and at the time of the murders, specifically because of repeated arguments with a professor and grading issues. He had emotional issues that he wrote about in H.S. He talk more recently about visual white outs of sorts. The PhD was a chance to show the bullies, the females who rejected him, and everyone else that he was worthy, that he was smarter than they were. All this was collapsing. Add on if he tried to contact Maddie in person or via social and was rejected... he snapped.
Google "kohberger bundy", and look at the side by side black and white photo... see the smirk? It's so eerie, it reeks guilt.
Harvey is obsessed? Please!! 🤣
I read at one time that Ethan's body was against the door on the door keeping people from being able to get into the room. There have been so many different reports about how the victims were found that nothing makes any sense.
thank you, im glad im not the only one who noticed the misinformation they all are spewing....shameful
He wasn’t stalking the victims surveillance I doubt, and under 7 minutes says the PCA and 3 other DNA profiles found on sheath and a cigarette
If you were told he saved a life then you would look at him different and Sy Ray’s testimony that has him at Wei Wei Park, a man whom has worked for the government. Moscow PD hasn’t finished their CAST report. Touch DNA is on sheath along with 2 other profiles, look as if you follow the Coffindaffer’s and Howard Blum’s book which could exonerate him since there is gag order it’s all speculative like “the smirk”
Ethan's mom has stated that Ethan was found on the bed.
And there is interesting footage of a forensic officer entering the house that afternoon. If you pause it you can see what looks to be the end of a knife sheath in his hand with the rest up his sleeve.. planted!
Wow, so many of these people are saying things that have been proven not true. Main stream media at its finest
TMZ is a gossip channel and not a news station but honestly main stream media isn't much better at all
The conspiracy theories on this case are interesting. Not saying anything is true but there’s weird stuff going on here.
Why is it taking so long for this case to go to trial? There’s possibly an innocent man sitting in jail for what, two years now? And wouldn’t there be a massive blood trail leaving the house?
Drug related and multiple killers imo
Bingo!
True! Maddie and Xana's moms are informants, they made a deal with the FEDs to snitch on drug running in the area via the Aryan brotherhood (AB) . The fact the victims were killed with a knife sent a message to others not keep their mouths shut, using a knife is an MO of the AB.. AB in the area were busted a few months later, which is why the prosecution is refusing to hand over evidence in this case. I also think Brent Kolpackr was involved and had links to Brian Kohberger. I believe Kohberger is on the Autistic Spectrum and fell back into taking drugs when he went to WSU to help him cope with his social anxiety and having no support system around him and he met Brent Kolpakar in his his home state or while in WSU area and that is how his DNA got on the snap button of the knife sheath. As for the other 2 housemates not being murdered well Dylan Mortensen's family has connections either to the AB or LE or the DA. I also think LE used Kaylee as an informant and Dylan Mortensen lured Kaylee back to the area, Kaylee had already left WSU. The case stink to high heaven and BK was the perfect patsy.
@@YohielSpeakslmaoooo drug related.? You reaching my guy. I think you’re the one doing the drugs.
@@Jazlin92665 You may be thinking way too small. Watch J. Embree for an intelligent, multi-dimensional breakdown of documented facts with names, dates and paperwork.
@@YohielSpeaksfun theory, but it's wrong.
I believe it was a police officer, who knew that only women lived in that house and it would be easier to attack. That's why Dylan and Bethany didn't call the police out of fear. I don't believe that during the murders, Dylan opened the door and in the darkness, he saw eyebrows and the police didn't take any sketch of the person.
You don't know that.were you there?
Idaho is full of guns. Everyone has one. Someone with knowledge that there were no guns in the house did this crime.
@@CPPeterson-u5c goodness.cops did not do this.kohberger did.
I will never believe one person pulled these murders off. NEVER!
Oh yeah.
Actually puny Elliot Roger stabbed 3 of his roommates to death in rapid succession. I think Bryan is probably innocent, but the timeframe is possible.
@@amyfischer6457 Then you have never wandered or spyed on anyone around 4 AM. Lol. 4-5 AM is the best time to move around unnoticed. People are usually in a deep sleep or very pre sleep twilight state of falling asleep. Expand your imagination ... Because he's the lone killer. You do realize that serial killers do it alone most of the time. And please don't respond with with something I already know, what we all know.. there were 4. There are serial killers who kill families or who take risks with time to do diabolical perverted things.
Does anyone remember that a girl a few months earlier in a near by apartment said somebody broke into her car and took underwear as a souvenir.
Everyone was awake between 3:45 and 4:17. Everyone.
think three were already gone. Kaylee is the one left alive till after 4.
Even toted back to 1122 for the finish. 2:45a.m. she is last housemate breathing.
Other than Bethany who knew to avoid 1122. And Dylan the Conspirator.
Who set up K.G.
He was framed , Brian kopaca did it
And kept receipts with tag as thropies. He is the one and only one.
You meant Brent. Gossipers usually get important details incorrect.
i totally agree
I think he is framed as well. But I think it was the Frat Guys. I think all 4 were the targets. This felt personal. The 2 left alive were for a reason and they know a lot more than they are telling. 8 hours in a house with 4 dead people!? When they tore that house down you could see how thin the walls and floors were. The kids were killed 2 at a time. It would be chaos.
Drug cartel hit.
It's a rumor he went into anyone's house.
Why are u using false information here?
Did you do research before you discussed the case? There is so much accurate information out there you missed.
He said been there at 12 times that's not been proven at all. The cell phone tower information is not even accurate for that exact spot
What about the naked guy that ran out of the house did he run to a apartment to shower ? The girl said she saw a naked man run out
Dylan said the man was wearing a mask and all black. Who saw a naked man? I've heard this once or twice, but I don't know where this came from.
How do you know what was said ? Theirs a gag order, in court the prosecution said he wasn’t stalking the victims
No naked man tan out of the house. You and others on here telling major lies 🤦🏼♀️ like how the hell did you even come up with that.?
@@pocketfullofsunshine1Bethany said she saw a naked man. It's all alleged though. We'll find out at trial.
WHAT!! A STREAKER 😂😂
this "strange & suspicious' discussion, consists of a fringe group of malinformed participants.
Frame job by the people in the police department, underground tunnels, ladder by window, police order the bulldozing of the house, why??
Spirit box sessions they said hid in the closet fake panel tunnel doors
2 girls were involved! (Down stairs) you are all wrong read on it
Why did the roommate down stairs let the alleged killer walk right by, without any reaction at all? She went back to bed, didn't notify the police. Then the only call she made was to a male friend who came over to check on her roommates. And then they called the police, about 10 hours after her encounter in the house. IMO, she knew the killer and it wasn't Brian.
@@ArizonaSquatchFor one thing, they weren't both downstairs.
They all keep saying "he" BK but no one stops to think that it may have not been him at all or more than one person? like rly
Women scream when they see a spider.
THEY MUST'VE SCREAMED!
Wow both my comments rejected bec I disagree w your audience. All speculation, no proof, these ppl better not be jurors
Assumptions and speculation. You’re part of the problem. Spewing this nonsense. The guy was tech savvy, an expert(basicly) in cloud based forensics. And still brings his phone with him to take the lives of these victims? That’s not an oversight, but stupidity which is contradictory to BKs character. Like the people who came out and said he had to be the smartest guy in the room. It makes no sense if you think about it. The only half way decent evidence they have is touch dna, as far as the public knows( thanks to gag order) which can be unreliable and not useable in some other countries and even our military.
BK had the element of surprise and was able to use it effectively. You are assuming that the victims were screaming for their lives. I believe that he incapacitated them making them unable to scream. Ethan was more than likely sleeping and Xana was too frightened to even scream. DM saw him but I don’t believe he saw her, or he was too spent to continue with his spree. He has a history of having behavioral problems with women, this crime is reflective of this. He most definitely could have committed this crime by himself. Multiple people have confirmed that he needed to be the smartest guy in the room. He separated his trash from his family and put it in the neighbors bin. He avoided discussing the crime in class with his students and his behavior completely changed after the murders. The list just goes on and on. The totality of evidence has not been revealed yet and I believe that the state has much more that we don’t know about. Then you have the touch DNA on the knife sheath, Single source DNA at that. The receipt for the Dickies and rumor of a purchased KBar knife. No one can say he is absolutely guilty but it’s not like they just put this guy in jail for no reason. Justice must come for these beautiful souls Kaylee💛Maddie 🩷Xana💜Ethan💙
You repeat almost every unconfirmed rumor, treat it as a fact, and create your own little horror story.
1. You don't know what DM or BF actually saw or heard.
2. You don't know the victims' injuries or their capabilities.
3. There's no confirmed information about behavioral issues towards women.
4. There's no confirmation that he "had to be the smartest guy in every room." Even if some people claim this, it's subjective. Everyone had a classmate who participated and knew a lot; it can be annoying if it wasn't you.
5. It is unclear what he did in his parents' kitchen or how he sorted the trash. It's not unusual to use a neighbor's trash can with permission when yours is full.
6. There's no confirmed information that he avoided discussing the case with students.
7. There's no indication that the prosecutor can even prove the claims made in the PCA. It's unclear how anyone can conclude he will find these proofs by the September deadline and present additional evidence. That is wishful thinking and delusional. Have you watched the last three hearings?
8. It's not confirmed that he bought a knife or coverall.
9. Unfortunately, one can end up in jail quickly, especially when the public cheers unlawful and abusive behavior instead of holding the prosecution accountable.
10. Those who want justice for the victims hold the prosecution to the highest standard. Why believe a prosecutor lying for over 1.5 years (e.g., about evidence that suddenly appears the day before the hearing) lacks transparency and has gone from highly arrogant and loud to a silent, purple-faced mess? Why accept the waste of taxpayer money by the prosecution deliberately withholding evidence, risking its exclusion from the trial?
@@Romina1907. I literally said that it was my opinion. And I did not create a horror story, whoever killed these kids did. No one knows what happened in this crime except the cops, the killer and God above. BK left his DNA behind on a knife sheath underneath a victim, that is facts. It will all come out in court and I have no doubt that the right person will be convicted ✌🏻
You're full of it
...It might be some type of Fraternity rivalry.
Yo is this for real..?. Like this is from 3 days ago and ya’ll literally have your facts and information completely incorrect are you serious??? That’s your problem right there.. please do more research before putting out any more videos on this case. It’s been in the media for 18 months and ya’ll can’t find the real facts before uploading a video?? It’s not that hard. And you have a real life forensic psychologist sitting right there literally talking about ish that isn’t even true. Wow.
Is it really the first time? I have my doubts.
From the beginning, I never believed BK was responsible for this crime.
Your wrong, your not looking at the evidence.
It was stated court by the prosecution he was not following or had any contact or watching anyone about 04 through social media or anywhere else
Always thought 2 people did this! Think it had to be drug related.
Not the car of BK
@@anettesundblad8459 he ordered new plates after the murder to st Washington...
Most of your information was wrong.
Idk why this feels disrespectful
He was probably only aware of 3 girls
Being there and didn’t know the dog was there either. DM also had moved to the second floor room not too long before that. So he may not have known she was there either. So if he had planned for time to kill
3 people, but encounter 4 and a dog, he knew he was out of time because the cops were not far away. He needed time to get out of that neighborhood in order to not run into the cops. He probably assumed the noise would
Have caused the others to call.
He had the element of surprise, darkness, the choice of a knife over a gun (less noise), and premeditation. There’s nothing unexplained. He did it. He did it alone.
👏👏👏👏 Thank you for looking into this!
My opinion that’s impossible one guy down the four people and six peoples in the house how about lots of screams nobody hear?
@@eleuteriagunson1184 I agree six against one
How can that possibly be?
@@SherriLight-f6j It was by no means Ted Bundy's first murder scene, but he brutally attacked 4 women at a sorority house in Florida, killing 2, with a piece of firewood he found on the way in. There were about 30 women in the house, who heard nothing. I got all of that from the Ted Bundy wikipedia page.
I mean if they are drunk and/or high, sleep and in separate rooms. very possible.
How do you know he knew 6 people were there? Plus, how? Simple: adrenalin and maybe drugs.
STICK TO THE FACTS PLEASE! STUFF LIKE THIS SENDS INNOCENT PEOPLE TO PRISON OR DEATH!
@@kellydompiet55 or exonerated, at least TMZ could have considered say he didn’t stalk the victims 🤦♀️
BK was a wrestler in high school, he took martial arts training, he was a boxer, and he was a runner. (According to an acquaintance that occasionally ran with BK, BK regularly ran 7 miles at a time).
BK was proficient with knives - he once had a job filleting fish.
BK intensely studied serial killers like BTK and Ted Bundy, so he would know the fastest, stealthiest & most lethal ways to enter a residence and take a victim’s life. He even used a phrase similar to one used by Bundy with his victims, “I’m here to help you”.
BK was COMPLETELY capable of committing these 4 crimes alone, in a very short length of time.
I believe BK had one target in mind, and the others were collateral damage - he had no idea there were 6 people in the house.
He had no idea which cars outside belonged to which people in the house (unless he had followed them, spied on them or learned about their cars through social media).
BK had one target in mind - he did not plan to kill multiple people that night.
He did not expect to find 2 people in 1 bed. The confusion and struggle probably caused him to drop the knife sheath and he didn’t realize he dropped it until later that morning (possibly why he returned to the scene at 9 AM, thinking it might be outside on the ground, dropped as he fled the scene).
He did not expect a dog in the house - let alone a barking dog.
He was not aware there was another full-grown adult male in the house (Ethan), or an awake roommate (Xana).
In his exhaustion after struggling with & offing 4 people, I don’t believe he even saw DM.
There is a plethora of cellular, surveillance, online and forensic data the FBI collected & owns, from up to 4 different states (Idaho, Washington, Colorado, and Pennsylvania). The FBI will release when they are ready - after it has been analyzed, thoroughly reviewed, drawn up into a summary and report, graphics made, and after it receives final approval from supervisors.
Wait & see…
You need to do your research ..because...there are alot of untruths in your theories..
Even Dexter couldn’t have pulled this off in LE’s 9 minute timeframe and leaving zero evidence on his way out. Make it make sense!!!
This is more of a frame job then the Karen Read case.
As an academic he's probably been studying this kind of shit for years....
Oh God. You guys are ridiculous
Don’t forget the miraculously convenient DNA evidence everything is based on that will probably be thrown out of court.
Wtf they are doing so much damage control so Bryan kohberger will be convicted this is so horrible imo Bryan kohberger didn't murder these kids😢
That was & is the plan,the more bizarre a case becomes the more likely nothing will ever make sense,LE is corrupt to began with ,so your never going to get answeres on what really happened! This was done to cause fear & confusion ,that's clearly wat it has done !
Why are you still saying he was there 12 times when the state has said he was not stalking them. Go thru PCA and cross off all that does not apply now. There’s no case.