" Trying to profit off murder is so disgusting ", this is nothing new, think about all the books and moves that have been made about murders and tragedy ! Think about all the youtube creators, they are not posting videos for the fun of it, it's all about the money !
Totally get your point… But quite literally anyone telling a crime story is doing that with the intent to make a profit. I suppose there are two flipsides to that coin.
His parents seem like decent people, that also seem aware their son is an odd duck. Sadly, it was reported that his father was so proud of his son, referring to him as Dr. BK disgraced his family. I think BKs family walked on egg shells with him and maybe they were always expecting the other shoe to drop. Well, it did. Maybe they're relieved he's in prison, he's no longer their problem. They must be horrified by what their son did.
Thank you! Empathetic genuine parents with set boundaries of good & bad in their house, working in the school system, his mom with special needs students. This is making me sick. So many lies already in minutes
@@JanetClough-dy5kd BK is an average looking guy! Look who Maddie was dating and look who Kaylee’s last BF was come on now it is just hilarious to me people pretending like he didn’t or couldn’t have a chance with them. Absolutely ridiculous. You are absolutely right looks have nothing to do with it. This was an isolated target attack as they kept telling us so it can’t be BK then🤷♀️
Right.Jeffery Dahmer was nice looking,Ted Bundy was fine as cat hair, Charles Manson was attractive and smart back in his day...exactly what does a sociopathic serial killer look like.Bryan looks like a normal mid to late twenties white male to me.
I won't call it misinformation, more like....uninformed. Many facts of the case are misrepresented here, coming from someone that has followed the case from the beginning. Way too much speculation on this case since the affidavit was released.
@@531katie The lawyer you know and Julia of all trades There is others that Read the court documents. Those two off the top of my head our channels that don’t have hours of conversations throughout reading the documents
@marci1655 we dont know with certainty that there is no connection, frankly even if there isn't a connection that doesn't mean he's not the killer, serial killers kill random people all the time to avoid ending up on poilce radar but the fact that was vegan and she worked a a vegan restaurant is probably where they briefly crossed path
@@Harlowandme-w1jthis is still under investigation, prosecutor can’t say with certainty yet, no stalking or connection. From what I read one or both girls worked at a vegan place, Kohlberger was a vegan and lived close by. Are we to say with certainty that kohberger never visited that restaurant??? I believe Kohlberger had been in that house before that night, whether at one of their parties, or entered that house before the killings.
The 2 remaining roommates are so suspicious to me. They know more and possibly involved. How do you see the allegedly killer and do nothing. Wait so long to call 911. Makes no sense.
It's called rush to judgment, and from what I have seen on youtube 90% of people do this. Either innocent or guilty, most have very strong opinions. I have said over and over we have not seen all the evidence and won't until the trial. However with youtube, views mean money. So called content creators make more money so they will do and say anything to create views for that reason.
@@kimbalxyz2 youre correct with what u say, hes not technically guilty yet... I think a ton of us just find it rather ironic that tha Brutal Killings STOPPED as soon as he was arrested. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
He is innocent until proven guilty, but people have the right to talk about evidence and facts in the case. Sorry that there are so many evidence and facts because he is most likely guilty but we will find out a trial.
I don’t understand why there has to be a change of venue. Ann Taylor has said repeatedly that Bryan is innocent. She must have proof right? So why would it matter where the trial is? Shouldn’t matter to the defense or the prosecution. The facts are the facts. If the prosecution has the evidence to lock him up and prove his guilt it doesn’t matter where it’s held. Ann Taylor doesn’t believe he’s innocent or she wouldn’t push for a change of venue. She’s hoping the prosecution has slipped up. He’s guilty and I expect a plea deal to happen to save his life.
@@ericj3331 I agree. Anyone who logically looks at this case can see it. The evidence and the facts are damaging and his alibi is crap. And a jury, regardless of where it’s held, will see it too.
@bryanrichardson6401 100%, we haven't seen alot of evidence like the video canvassing timeline. I think more physical evidence could have also been discovered since the intial charges. It's too bad they tore down the house though, that my only concern about this case. University f-ed up
@@ericj3331 yeah I don’t understand tearing the house down. From what I heard both sides agreed it could come down. I think that’s because prosecutors have way more evidence aside from what was in the house. At least that’s what I think.
This guy is full of crap. Firstly, his supposition that the murderer is unfounded. Why doesn't he think that the murderer opened Kaylee bedroom door and seeing no one there, just moved on to the next door? And if Ethan "came out" to confront him, why isn't his body found outside the bedroom? If he drug him back in the room, there would still be a massive amount of blood in the hall from the sliced jugular ...and he keeps mispronouncing Xana's name, which is just annoying...
@@tedmatheny7784 He was on the floor. He was attacked on the bed, mortally wounded and ended up in the floor. Yes, Ethan was inside the room...blocking them from being able to push it open. Dude weighed 240 pounds and was 6 foot 4.
Read somewhere the house was known to be a party house with noises all of the time, and that one of the survivors was wearing earplugs. I wonder why there wasn’t more noise during the attack on the second young woman who reports have said fought back. No screams from anyone-that were heard d in the house or neighborhood?
Especially because we were told that they were communicating during the supposed attacks, (I say suppose because I'm not quite sure I believe that it happened in the house but nonetheless).. how could they have heard what happened and not calling 911 immediately
@@nickaugustus Bryan is an average looking guy (no not my type) but come on now he was PHD Student And teacher assistant, and I guarantee you it will come out worked as an intern/cadet for the local PD or was getting ready to be. There are girls who give it up to uglier and unsuccessful guys all the time. Not trying to be mean, but look at who Maddie and Kaylee were dating?!? Trying to pretend like he didn’t or couldn’t have a shot with one of those girls is just funny to me.
32:31 I’ve heard at least THREE interviews of verified friends of his speaking of his personality, hanging out w him socially… don’t do the incel thing. Yall mention his doctorate & think the guy is going to parade around the scene in his own car. Can’t have it both ways. They need to look deeper bc Kohlberger isn’t adding up. They told us the car would be a treasure trove, they said so much evidence would come to surface.. tear apart his drains… nothing. They jumped the gun & there’s too much ego to just do the right thing. We keep getting pushed narratives like this show with no merit. Those of us who CARE about these kids & care about justice are out here paying attention & know this case inside & out. You guys are no better than Nancy grace. Bryan could very well be innocent. Spinning these unwarranted narratives have biased this case & could cost another kid their life. That’s blood on your hands. I wish you wouldn’t take this so lightly
@@Susiehighschool Kohberger isn't innocent! If he was he would have good alibi intead of waiting for the tower information to pick an alibi! Also if he was innocent he would be screaming through the roof top! He is very smat but this case is far more than he can chew and that's because he is guilty! I never can understand how this day and age smart people care so much about a man that has DNA against him and camra's and you never think about those 4 innocent students! It's all about Kohberger! This world is crazy!
Shame on you people 6 hours ago you posted this you should know by now there's no evidence to control The Narrative of Howard bloom shame on you people say this before any trials
@@gregmertz1202 Yes I agree they should have done there own research or at least bring on some one that knows this case that can argue the other side, how there is absolutely no concrete evidence against BK only circumstantial, and how this small town had detectives working on this case that totally set up a innocent man (Dr. Moore) on a different case few years prior. But and here is the but the people who watched chose to watch no one forced us to watch! Hopefully they learn for the future that cases that have not gone to trial are not always clear cut and the police don’t always get the right guy! This case right here looks like they got the wrong guy! Howard B. Is here to sell his book that’s it! I do like the platform they have set up. Hopefully they listen to the viewers and have someone ready to debate Howard and debunk his claims. I guarantee you, Howard would not agree to come on if that was the case.😂
It's refreshing to know there's people like you out here with me. This is absolutely outrageous what they are doing . It's like they couldn't care less that they're lying as if there is a bunch of evidence.
@@Steve-v4i I do not think he did or did not commit the perfect crime. That said, IF the evidence (we are not privvy to because of the gag order) shows guilt, I would believe BK thinks he commited the perfect crime
This guy has no idea if the police had a warrant for the ancestry site.This guy shouldn't make up lies in innuendo like that.I don't know why you got this guy on, he's lousy
🤦🏻♀️I'm not even half way & already 3 facts are wrong. 1. The perp did not park behind the house 2. Ethan was found dead on Xanas bed, so his jugular was not cut outside of the room & 3. The perp did not say "I won't hurt you" he said "I'm going to help you".
B/S theres nothing that puts at the house or in the house.. he never stalked them never messaged them. He didnt know them or they know him. It was microscopic amount of touch DNA found on the button of the knife sheath.. those 12 pings leading up to the crime . Were from a tower that services 1122 king rd. Has a 30 mile radius. He wasnt near or outside the house 12 times leading up. His car does not have dark tinted windows..
I’m not watching an hour of this I know the whole thing and he’s not the one. A lot of rumours have been debunked and it’s like nobody cares they still believe it Weird thing it’s like they want him to be the one
11:04 they didn’t find HIS car. They found a white car. They didn’t do the proper cell or drive test work as they should have. This investigation has failed this case tremendously. Also the courts have stated NO STALKING, not even a connection between the suspect & the victims. We need some real brave journalists & investigators looking into this case. Anyone looking closely will see things are very wrong here. Sincerely
He didn’t have any connection to the victims. Dickies outfits are way thin. Nothing said makes sense. The girls didn’t call for 8 hours….wayyy more likely they had something to do with it.
No, I think she simply stated the EXACT QUOTE. That's the biggest problem in this case, in the "INVESTIGATION" is the fact that way too many people are not holding LE responsible to doing the job they are paid to do. Did anyone else happen to see ANNE TAYLOR question CASE LEAD INVESTIGATOR, MPD OFFICER PAYNE? 😮
that was a BOGUS statement made by Brett Payne in his probable Cause Statement. The whole thing is a lie starting with the address of 1122 King Rd, it NEVER existed. The correct address is 1122 QUEEN RD and verified by MPD bodycams, that's the name they used when they called in. Cops PURPOSELY reported the wrong info, scrubbed bodycams. If you don't think these cops are dirty, you have something SERIOUSLY wrong with your head & heart...
@@williamtardy8137 she also said she heard her moaning like she was in pain. I do not believe he randomly picked this house. What if it were a male group. He knew the house. It was notorious for parties. I think the university tore it down because so much went on inside that house. Drugs, etc..he skipped the part where he was researching criminals about crimes like this.
Howard Bloom doesn't know anymore than we do. It's pure speculation and to take it as facts is a fools game. This man has opened himself up for a law suit. Slander at its finest and before a court has even made a decision. I have absolutely no respect for Howard Bloom after this.
I’m hearing you about to introduce somebody & I’m thinking please please don’t say Howard Blum!! I was elated & relieved to see the second guy.. thinking I might get 2 intellectuals go in deep… but nope. My heart just sank. Blum may know some things, but his book is full of ish. It’s lies sucking off that media narrative. Those of us invested are in this for the truth!!! I believed it was Bryan when they first said it but as I’ve watched closely… he’s not the one. Let’s be serious here
Blum is full of BS. This is complete fiction. Kato asked him why no blood? His answer was he'd bought a suit to go over his entire body including shoes so he walked outside in that and then took it off. So there was no blood on the feet of that suit trampled onto the grass outside? Dream on. He just wants to sell a book and make some money.
Totally agree with you. Look at all the sheep that believe him & bought his book to help keep him cashed up $$$$$$$$ that's the scary part that there's so many gullible sheep.
The host says BK could have probably gotten away with killing one, but not four?!? So killing four instead of one led to... a roommate ID'ing his eyebrows 😂🤦♀️😭
I disagree! He watched this house! He studied these victims. He knew EXACTLY who was going to be in that house AND where everyone’s rooms were. I do not believe ANY of them were sleeping! He did not say “I’m not going to hurt you” He said “it’s ok, I’m here to help you!” And Dylan!!!! Was NOT frozen in a “shock faze”. She texted throughout the rest of the night/ morning. Calling other friends. She is SUS AF! IMO
Unbelievable if he actually did all those mistakes leaving his car around bringing his phone it's hard to believe that he's that stupid any person in the world would know not to do that
@@ericj3331 that's not how he got caught. Prosecutor already stated in a hearing months ago - that igg DNA will not be used in court nor did it play any part in Bryan's arrest . If you recall . FBI didn't even get his dad's DNA until they dug around in the family garbage / or actually their neighbors garbage can outside of the Pennsylvania home. ( During the big arrest / that they had a warrant for ). Touch DNA is not used in cases because it does not prove that the person ( who's touch DNA appears ) was even at the same location that sheath was found. And do you even understand what a knife sheath is ? How it it used ? It's threaded through your belt - secure - cannot come off - ( as your belt is attached to your jeans & sheath has leather loop that's on belt at the waist. It cannot slide past 2 jeans belt loops plus the belt buckle. The snap ( where that touch DNA was allegedly found ) is where you reach down to unsnap the piece that holds the knife in sheath. Only the knife comes out of sheath. The sheath remains securely attached to belt. And.. no body would remove their knife & sheath to carry them in their hand... Why ? To try to fit it inside your pocket ? Then even IF that were the case.. wouldn't a person realize that they dropped the sheath ? Right away.. when they were done using knife ? You think he carried the sharp knife around in his hand or stuck it in his pocket ? To risk poking himself ? And remember.. Dylan did notice details of the killer - the dark face mask , black hoody - bushy brows - his build... But never mentioned this dude had a big shiny bloody knife in his hand . Let it go. .. the sheath is not admissable in court . It proves nothing . And was most likely planted.
That but also somehow no blood/DNA in the car and apparently leaving DNA on the knife sheath that there would be no reason to bring if it wasn't already attached to his person. He'd have to knowingly walk out of the house without it considering no murder weapon was found. And accomplishing all this in under 10 minutes with zero military training
10:50 guy- you’re incredibly wrong. Watch the hearings. The expert who has actually developed the software the police use is now working for the defense! He has him in a different location. He’s the one who understands drive test & actually does them unlike LE in this case. They even lied to get the second warrant. Detective admits it on the stand. Stop spreading this crap. Nothing is rational about a guy doing this in under 10 mins & has no dna left or taken.. in a house leaking blood. The attorneys already said there’s not even a connection to the victims. I could go on & walk you all through the actual truth that’s come out but you guys don’t remotely care about accuracy. Such a shame
I met a 5 (yes 5) year old psychopath once. She gave a convincing story about being homeless ad needed money. Her mother called her on her behavior and told me she was lying. I looked that little girl in her eye and I saw it…. the psychopathic stare. I told her mother that she needs help. She told me that she knows. Mothers always know.
@@BB-0804 Yes, but if the child is just "quiet", "reserved", has no friends and has never exhibited violent behavior, for some parents will never suspect they were capable of the unthinkable.
You're talking about Dylan as a witness hahaha same people who didn't call 911 for 8 hours come on you two guys are high on something it's amazing you can get away with all this BS how about a person that you have absolutely no evidence against
I don't believe Bk murdered 4 people in 8 minutes with zero evidence and zero sound. But also no victim's DNA were found in clothes, his car, home, anywhere. It was a blood bath! If he is the killer! Where is the evidence???? IMO the knife cover was planted! Also it was a such a rush to demolish the crime scene! Why the rush before a trial, so in the trial now the crime scene is demolished. IMO Bryan is not the killer he is an escape goat. Why is there no trial date? Why did the murder house have to be demolished?
@@misstracyatkins9874 I agree and unfortunately, so many questions and very few will be answered. The big question we will never know who actually did this crime and why?!?
@BonBon-uz5iq thankyou for reply, cheers and G'day from Newcastle Australia 🇦🇺 👍. Alot of unanswered questions but my absolute favourite it the murder house 🏠 is demolished before the trial. That speaks volumes to me 🙋♀️
I really didn’t think he really added anything we already didn’t know, instead of hanging at the Hampton’s and making money off the book donate all that Money to the victims family instead of making money off it, your just as bad as Hollywood!
Also, Steve & Christy Goncalves have confirmed that before anyone even knew who Bryan was, Bryan had liked some of Maddie's posts on social media. So, there will be evidence of that at trial as well. 💯
What's so funny is he's supposed to have all this education and studied about criminology, yet he apparently used his own car. And then he brings his cell phone with him instead of leaving it in his own apartment. And then leaves the knife sheathe behind. How does someone get a masters degree in that subject yet they have little or no common sense to know enough not to leave evidence behind and bread crumb trail behind them like that? Almost wonder if that is another blunder like OJ dropping the glove, or was fully or partly done intentionally as part of some kind of test or theory
27:45 Of course they can't identify K on the surveillance videos. They're using some alien technology that has a worse resolution than a 1927 mechanical television. Update the stupid cameras! Geez! 😅
they are on the wrong track. The story they believe has them heading in the wrong direction. The autopsies will prove all the scenario WRONG. If those reports even come out.
How can you blame the parents?? Ordinary people aren’t qualified to know their son could be a murderer one day. If that were the case than there would never be any serial killers. Even experts can’t explain what makes someone do these awful things.
Why on earth would a criminal forensic expert - drive his own car ( that has build in navigation tracking device ) , bring his cell phone... To go commit a violent crime - murder ? No way. & They have proven that his phone was in Washington state during those hours between 3:30 am-5:00 am.
@@Belfast-lk8lx Its the criminal masterminds...who do not get caught . Even the small time thieves - who aren't educated - know that cell phone data follows you everywhere . They leave their cell phones home before going out on a job. & will steal a car to get to the potential crime scene - before ever driving their own vehicle .
Lord please allow the victims to rest in peace, and give justice to the families and friends that were affected by this tragedy. Please guide anyone in the right direction that is working so hard to save lives of innocent people, fight for them or find justice for innocent lives not just in this case but all. Keep this man behind bars so he can’t hurt anyone else and give the families and friends a little more peace knowing that the person who forever change their lives is put away and will never be let out. In the name of Jesus I pray amen
If some of these poor students had defensive wounds they had to be screaming, blood all over the person killing them I don't understand how the students who survived didn't hear or see anything but bushy eyebrows something is wrong with this whole picture. LE has the ways to detect micro spots of blood he couldn't have cleaned his car without leaving some evidence
Interesting but this isn't a movie. There are many facts here glossed over from related people. Innocent until proven guilty. His book should have been suspended to print until after the case is over. What if he... after a time... is proven completely wrong? Then what???
True.. many responsible for this type of crime often confess " I wanted to know what it felt like" or .. It gave me a high like nothing else " etc. No logical motive to a normal person .
First of all stop calling them kids. They are young men and women. Second Howard blums book is a work of fiction. Its a story built around the crime. Very few facts.
@@davidclayton3831 Completely agree, how can someone write a book before the trial happens?!? People still making him out to be a monster acting like he looks like a monster when it very well could be an innocent man
Many people have said things about ignorance, including that it can be a blessing or a danger, and that it can be a sign of confidence or a lack of knowledge
Great episode! The case is so interesting. I follow it but had never heard of the Kirkers. I think a lot things will come out during trial, and I wonder if the defense will get a chance of venue. I teach stats, and it was interesting how the defense sampled members of the community to see what biases are out there. The fruit of the poison tree argument is very interesting with regard to the genealogy websites. I thought CeCe said they can use it as a tip only, so if that was probable cause, that could be a problem. So sorry for the families in this case. Howard was a great guest - I like how he told the story and what questions you guys posed. Can't wait for the next episode, and good luck to your daughter at BC!!
If you follow the case you would know Blum got several things wrong. The Church is one angle, The Arian Bro is another angle, Greek life is another angle, Sorority girls another angle, the Drug cartel another angle, U Of I angle, Corrupt LE an angle and lastly Brent K an angle. Only ONE of these angles does Blum mention. He has limited knowledge on this case and wrote his book from one angle. I will wait until trial because I know its possible he did it. But I also know there are yet too many unanswered questions.
You need to be jailed for throwing hate speech out like that. WHY DONT HOU WAIT TILL THE TRIAL IS OVER? Vincent Buliosi was the go to on the Manson trial and he had enough class to publish after the conviction.
Great content, obviously i found u thru OJ but this is massive case. Certain cases strike a nerve with the public, this one, watts, morphew, petito, stauch, soto, daybell. If u guys can hit these cases i think that's views galore. Love the OJ stuff and love this content.
I wish you guys would’ve got someone to debate Howard go get Lana from (truth and transparency) she knows this case like the back of her hand she did a lot more investigating than this journalist
She did but shes wrong too. J Embree thinks hes on the right track and he is the closest of any Y Tuber. BUT…. There is a PROTECTED CI WITNESS. This is WHY the Prosecution is So Firm about their Conviction. Im a local followed the case immediately from day one. Ive been a member of a ID4 FB page where we believe BK was Pappa Roger and spoke to many of us on the page until the day BK was arrested in PA. Many things that Blum mentions are ALL Speculation. He has gathered intell from many sources one of which is our page imo. If COV is granted I believe it will be in Nez Perce County where BK attorney AT defending another DP case. ADA Co is a hardship for the family.
This guy (imo) has it all wrong. As he has been trying to profit on this tragedy from the very beginning, his story is based on what everyone thought initially. We are now two years into this case and A LOT has changed my mind on BKs guilt/innocence. He has to stick to the same BS story
This author practically has a hard-on while anxiously talking about his book ... a book he wrote before the trial has even gotten under way. He may have some insider info, but I don't trust an author who travels to a town to supposedly help solve a crime and ends up writing a novel, trying to profit off 4 kids' deaths before their killer has even been tried.
Not buying Howard's book. He doesn't have many facts repeated correctly. Maybe he just doesn't remember certain things from the earlier reported events. I will wait until the trial. I'm already upset where this trial is going.
It’s ok…. “I won’t hurt you”. Those aren’t even the words that were said. Come on people. You all sound so amateurish. No it doesn’t make sense. Catch up with current findings.
He was casing the joint, watching for the right moment to strike - not drumming up the courage. Also how does Schlomo know how it went down - did Kohberger personally tell him? 🙄
That was a chilling 10-min opening to your question to Howard Blum …’how did this happen?’ What an incredible answer-vivid. He (Howard) brought the dreadful scene to terrifying life. All I could think about was Dylan’s brush with death. How close she came to being yet a 5th victim. I’m wondering how traumatized she must still be - how long if ever do you recover from that incredible close call. One question never got answered though-how the parents of the slaughtered kids feel about the 8+ hr delay in the surviving roommates calling 9-1-1. Had any of the 4 stayed alive long enough for an immediate response to have mattered, possibly saved a life (?). But it sure sounded as though this killer was adept with a hunting knife and knew how to do the most damage within seconds. For the parent’s sake I hope they learned that all lost consciousness instantly. To compare this author to Truman Capote’s brilliant nonfiction novel “In Cold Blood” sets a pretty high bar indeed. Just reading that was traumatized me for a long time.
It's really crazy how many people on the internet think he's innocent. It's almost statistically impossible that he's not the killer. Family friends of kohbergers have reported that his own family started to wonder if he was a suspect after his weird behavior back in PA.
@Ts-zy4bw source for what, common sense? The totality of the evidence pretty much guarantees he's the killer. All the probegers have for his defense is non-sense conspiracy theories. Event his family can look at the evidence and know he's guilty.
You are sorely and sadly mistaken. I’d suggest doing your due diligence prior to allowing the BS to be viewed by this many people. Gross. Irresponsible. Howard writes lies.
What was up with the first part when he's talking about the religious people and getting covid? What did that have to do with the case?! And just because Kohlberger looks creepy doesn't make him guilty. It sounds like he may have done it, but he still deserves a fair trial!
The book author was setting-up his personal experiences as to what the Moscow, Idaho townsfolk are like. As a writer, he dishes out the minute details for us to swallow. 📚 Agree with you; never, ever, "judge a book by the cover", obviously. 👍 Edit: And, yes ... ⚖️ .
The pp in the town of Moscow are not devided as said. I live in Moscow and know for a fact what kind of pp live here, they are for the most all good hardworking honest people who believe that right is right and wrong is wrong and no in between. Something like this has never happened in our city and of course it brings fear to our community, I pray that justice is served and if Ann Taylor is trying to set Kohlberger free on technicalities then shame on her
Okay 17 minutes in, he mentions he probably met her at the vegan resturant. I remember the owner saying it was false he was ever there. That was made up by old employee. Then he says Ethan confronting him and then being stabbed and laying on floor. There was blood coming out of the outside will where the bed sat. The affidavit said "also in the room" but never said he was on the floor. I would bet he got Ethan while he slept and the bed was against wall and that's blood that came out. Xana was probably in the bathroom and came back in to find it. Time will tell when the trial finally starts in though.
If anybody really listened it was debunked a long time ago that it was not blood coming down the walls on the outside but it was condensate from the heater or the air or something to do with that
Firstly, it wasn’t a quiet night that night, I have seen police footage right next to that house! Secondly, Bryan didn’t stalk any victims, so why would he go up to kill maddie if he had no idea who these people are. There is no connection with these people. Apparently no dog barking. And they didn’t hear I wont hurt you, they said it was “I’m here to help you” That doorway is very small he would of had to of bumped into Dylan if that’s what happened. My guess is he want to sell his book! It’s all about money! Convicting a guy before you hear any evidence! Even the defense has no actual evidence given to them! Just my opinion 🤷♀️
It's disgusting the way he thinks he's a big expert when he doesn't even know the facts. All in the name of make my $$$$$$$$. Innocent until proven guilty and I hope that the REAL truth comes out and then all who purchased his book will think twice next time before jumping on the bandwagon. 🇦🇺
He got covid in Moscow because they refused to wear masks. 😅 Seems like his reasearch and understanding is a little stretched and unrealistic. I love a good story teller but get your facts right please.
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Huge mistake tearing down the house.
@@ScottF80 especially as he didn't do it.
I totally agree. It could be completely torn down right after the trial, but doing it before the trial is another feather in the cap for the defense.
@@ScottF80 100%
YES
very sus indeed
The problem is, this guy doesn't care about justice, he cares about selling his book. Trying to profit off murder is so disgusting.
" Trying to profit off murder is so disgusting ", this is nothing new, think about all the books and moves that have been made about murders and tragedy ! Think about all the youtube creators, they are not posting videos for the fun of it, it's all about the money !
The lowest of the low
No I think he's discussing what he believes happened
@@Jay-Rok and yet here you are...supporting and watching a video of "a guy trying to profit off murder." Aren't you the high and mighty one. SMH LOL
Totally get your point… But quite literally anyone telling a crime story is doing that with the intent to make a profit. I suppose there are two flipsides to that coin.
Way out of line by trying to blame Kohburgers parents for "raising a psychopath".
His parents seem like decent people, that also seem aware their son is an odd duck. Sadly, it was reported that his father was so proud of his son, referring to him as Dr. BK disgraced his family. I think BKs family walked on egg shells with him and maybe they were always expecting the other shoe to drop. Well, it did. Maybe they're relieved he's in prison, he's no longer their problem. They must be horrified by what their son did.
Thank you! Empathetic genuine parents with set boundaries of good & bad in their house, working in the school system, his mom with special needs students. This is making me sick. So many lies already in minutes
OH MY HE HAS A LOOK. JUST HOW IS A KILLER SUPPOSE TO LOOK LIKE. TED BUNDY WAS A NICE LOOKING MAN. SINCE WHEN IS A PERSON GUILTY JUST BY THEIR LOOKS?
@@JanetClough-dy5kd BK is an average looking guy! Look who Maddie was dating and look who Kaylee’s last BF was come on now it is just hilarious to me people pretending like he didn’t or couldn’t have a chance with them. Absolutely ridiculous.
You are absolutely right looks have nothing to do with it. This was an isolated target attack as they kept telling us so it can’t be BK then🤷♀️
He has a creepy look to me
Right.Jeffery Dahmer was nice looking,Ted Bundy was fine as cat hair, Charles Manson was attractive and smart back in his day...exactly what does a sociopathic serial killer look like.Bryan looks like a normal mid to late twenties white male to me.
He has those cold eyes, even when he smiles there cold, no sparkle or emotion.
He is not like Ted Bundy. Bundy slept with the dead bodies.
I won't call it misinformation, more like....uninformed. Many facts of the case are misrepresented here, coming from someone that has followed the case from the beginning. Way too much speculation on this case since the affidavit was released.
Where is your video
Oh shoot. I didn’t question even what I learned from this author -at least in its logic. So where do we go for facts …. The trial I suppose.
@@531katie lots of facts can be found in the court documents.
@@531katie The lawyer you know and Julia of all trades
There is others that Read the court documents. Those two off the top of my head our channels that don’t have hours of conversations throughout reading the documents
@@sludgeness1 Uninformed and misinformation
Man, I respectfully say. You are wrong to blame the parents for him doing this horrific crime, if he is the one who done it!
I’m sorry but this author is the problem facts no stalking involved & no connection!
From the prosecutors own mouth...no stalking or connection..so..
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@marci1655 we dont know with certainty that there is no connection, frankly even if there isn't a connection that doesn't mean he's not the killer, serial killers kill random people all the time to avoid ending up on poilce radar but the fact that was vegan and she worked a a vegan restaurant is probably where they briefly crossed path
@@Harlowandme-w1jthis is still under investigation, prosecutor can’t say with certainty yet, no stalking or connection. From what I read one or both girls worked at a vegan place, Kohlberger was a vegan and lived close by. Are we to say with certainty that kohberger never visited that restaurant??? I believe Kohlberger had been in that house before that night, whether at one of their parties, or entered that house before the killings.
@@Legions66 100%, some of these ppl don't consume too much true crime or are naive about criminology
@@Belfast-lk8lx Even if ever word you said is true, none of it is evidence of murder.
Listening to this guy state facts would be like accepting a James Patterson novel as fact. Hes off his rocker.
Cray cray cray cray 😜
The 2 remaining roommates are so suspicious to me. They know more and possibly involved. How do you see the allegedly killer and do nothing. Wait so long to call 911. Makes no sense.
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
It's called rush to judgment, and from what I have seen on youtube 90% of people do this. Either innocent or guilty, most have very strong opinions. I have said over and over we have not seen all the evidence and won't until the trial. However with youtube, views mean money. So called content creators make more money so they will do and say anything to create views for that reason.
@@estil333333 >its called SECRET SOCIETY FREEMASONRY = satan = MPD = ALL Sororoties & Fraternities, WORLDWIDE
@@kimbalxyz2 youre correct with what u say, hes not technically guilty yet... I think a ton of us just find it rather ironic that tha Brutal Killings STOPPED as soon as he was arrested. 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Innocent until proven guilty is for trial not public opinion
He is innocent until proven guilty, but people have the right to talk about evidence and facts in the case. Sorry that there are so many evidence and facts because he is most likely guilty but we will find out a trial.
Wow! What a show - I thought I knew everything about the murders, but I’m seriously impressed.
(Scooby Laughs)
Kohberger won his request for change of venue.
I don’t understand why there has to be a change of venue. Ann Taylor has said repeatedly that Bryan is innocent. She must have proof right? So why would it matter where the trial is? Shouldn’t matter to the defense or the prosecution. The facts are the facts. If the prosecution has the evidence to lock him up and prove his guilt it doesn’t matter where it’s held. Ann Taylor doesn’t believe he’s innocent or she wouldn’t push for a change of venue. She’s hoping the prosecution has slipped up. He’s guilty and I expect a plea deal to happen to save his life.
@@brblue44 defense is in pound the table mode they know BK is guilty
@@ericj3331 I agree. Anyone who logically looks at this case can see it. The evidence and the facts are damaging and his alibi is crap. And a jury, regardless of where it’s held, will see it too.
@bryanrichardson6401 100%, we haven't seen alot of evidence like the video canvassing timeline. I think more physical evidence could have also been discovered since the intial charges. It's too bad they tore down the house though, that my only concern about this case. University f-ed up
@@ericj3331 yeah I don’t understand tearing the house down. From what I heard both sides agreed it could come down. I think that’s because prosecutors have way more evidence aside from what was in the house. At least that’s what I think.
This guy is full of crap. Firstly, his supposition that the murderer is unfounded. Why doesn't he think that the murderer opened Kaylee bedroom door and seeing no one there, just moved on to the next door? And if Ethan "came out" to confront him, why isn't his body found outside the bedroom? If he drug him back in the room, there would still be a massive amount of blood in the hall from the sliced jugular ...and he keeps mispronouncing Xana's name, which is just annoying...
Ethan was in the doorway !
Why did the girls have to call someone to push the door open? You're full of shit!
Ethan was up against the door. He was trying to keep anyone from coming back. Hunter (not his brother) pushed the door open. @@normafralin2237
@@debh5780 Ethan was on the bed.
@@tedmatheny7784 He was on the floor. He was attacked on the bed, mortally wounded and ended up in the floor. Yes, Ethan was inside the room...blocking them from being able to push it open. Dude weighed 240 pounds and was 6 foot 4.
The surviving 2 girls are totally suspect. Ill never understand how they didnt call police in that moment. Not your buddies 8 hours after the fact.
Read somewhere the house was known to be a party house with noises all of the time, and that one of the survivors was wearing earplugs. I wonder why there wasn’t more noise during the attack on the second young woman who reports have said fought back. No screams from anyone-that were heard d in the house or neighborhood?
Especially because we were told that they were communicating during the supposed attacks, (I say suppose because I'm not quite sure I believe that it happened in the house but nonetheless).. how could they have heard what happened and not calling 911 immediately
You follow Embree don't you?
@@cocoagirl44 I follow both sides still not convinced not in the slightest that BK did it
Drugs, alcohol that night,
More mainstream media! Sick!!!
Stopped watching at 11:16 - talking judgmentally about BK’s appearance as if it’s proof of guilt of pedestrian at best.
@@nickaugustus Bryan is an average looking guy (no not my type) but come on now he was PHD Student And teacher assistant, and I guarantee you it will come out worked as an intern/cadet for the local PD or was getting ready to be.
There are girls who give it up to uglier and unsuccessful guys all the time.
Not trying to be mean, but look at who Maddie and Kaylee were dating?!? Trying to pretend like he didn’t or couldn’t have a shot with one of those girls is just funny to me.
That’s too bad. Even if you disagree with someone, it is best to hear them out.
I hope he gets sued.
@@Belfast-lk8lx🤣 not really
@@stevestevenson289for what exactly?
I've never believed BK was guilty. There is SO much we don't know!!
I think this guy is wrong
32:31 I’ve heard at least THREE interviews of verified friends of his speaking of his personality, hanging out w him socially… don’t do the incel thing.
Yall mention his doctorate & think the guy is going to parade around the scene in his own car. Can’t have it both ways. They need to look deeper bc Kohlberger isn’t adding up. They told us the car would be a treasure trove, they said so much evidence would come to surface.. tear apart his drains… nothing. They jumped the gun & there’s too much ego to just do the right thing.
We keep getting pushed narratives like this show with no merit. Those of us who CARE about these kids & care about justice are out here paying attention & know this case inside & out. You guys are no better than Nancy grace. Bryan could very well be innocent. Spinning these unwarranted narratives have biased this case & could cost another kid their life. That’s blood on your hands. I wish you wouldn’t take this so lightly
@@Susiehighschool Kohberger isn't innocent! If he was he would have good alibi intead of waiting for the tower information to pick an alibi! Also if he was innocent he would be screaming through the roof top! He is very smat but this case is far more than he can chew and that's because he is guilty! I never can understand how this day and age smart people care so much about a man that has DNA against him and camra's and you never think about those 4 innocent students! It's all about Kohberger! This world is crazy!
Shame on you people 6 hours ago you posted this you should know by now there's no evidence to control The Narrative of Howard bloom shame on you people say this before any trials
@@gregmertz1202 Yes I agree they should have done there own research or at least bring on some one that knows this case that can argue the other side, how there is absolutely no concrete evidence against BK only circumstantial, and how this small town had detectives working on this case that totally set up a innocent man (Dr. Moore) on a different case few years prior.
But and here is the but the people who watched chose to watch no one forced us to watch!
Hopefully they learn for the future that cases that have not gone to trial are not always clear cut and the police don’t always get the right guy! This case right here looks like they got the wrong guy! Howard B. Is here to sell his book that’s it! I do like the platform they have set up. Hopefully they listen to the viewers and have someone ready to debate Howard and debunk his claims. I guarantee you, Howard would not agree to come on if that was the case.😂
It's refreshing to know there's people like you out here with me. This is absolutely outrageous what they are doing . It's like they couldn't care less that they're lying as if there is a bunch of evidence.
@BonBon-uz5iq Two things can be true at the same time, Howard is looking to cash in, and BK is guilty.
@@ericj3331exactly.
@@ericj3331I think we all know Brian is innocent-this whole think is sick and evil-imo
I have never dismissed his probable guilt...BK is smart. My opinion is, he believes he committed the 'perfect' crime.
@@HDladyrider why do you think he believed he committed the perfect crime?
@@Steve-v4i I do not think he did or did not commit the perfect crime. That said, IF the evidence (we are not privvy to because of the gag order) shows guilt, I would believe BK thinks he commited the perfect crime
Blooms book is a work of fiction.
It's non-fiction,
based upon his own theories,
experiences, journalism, boots-on-the-ground coverage.
@@MyKingdomForAK9that means fiction.
This guy has no idea if the police had a warrant for the ancestry site.This guy shouldn't make up lies in innuendo like that.I don't know why you got this guy on, he's lousy
I cannot watch this
How did he get no blood in his car or in the snow to his car???
He didnt kill anyone that's how there was no blood
🤦🏻♀️I'm not even half way & already 3 facts are wrong. 1. The perp did not park behind the house 2. Ethan was found dead on Xanas bed, so his jugular was not cut outside of the room & 3. The perp did not say "I won't hurt you" he said "I'm going to help you".
B/S theres nothing that puts at the house or in the house.. he never stalked them never messaged them. He didnt know them or they know him. It was microscopic amount of touch DNA found on the button of the knife sheath.. those 12 pings leading up to the crime . Were from a tower that services 1122 king rd. Has a 30 mile radius. He wasnt near or outside the house 12 times leading up. His car does not have dark tinted windows..
I’m not watching an hour of this
I know the whole thing and he’s not the one. A lot of rumours have been debunked and it’s like nobody cares they still believe it
Weird thing it’s like they want him to be the one
11:04 they didn’t find HIS car. They found a white car. They didn’t do the proper cell or drive test work as they should have. This investigation has failed this case tremendously.
Also the courts have stated NO STALKING, not even a connection between the suspect & the victims.
We need some real brave journalists & investigators looking into this case. Anyone looking closely will see things are very wrong here. Sincerely
Why does Howard keep chuckling and smiling while telling the story (that he thinks happened)??? Talk about a psycho!!
Because he is a man just like Bryan Kohberger who he thinks he is very smarter than everyone else 😂
He didn’t have any connection to the victims. Dickies outfits are way thin. Nothing said makes sense. The girls didn’t call for 8 hours….wayyy more likely they had something to do with it.
The witness heard him say, "Don't worry, I'm here to help you." Not what that guy said.
You’re splitting hairs. What “that guy” said is similar. This isnt a courtroom tuna
No, I think she simply stated the EXACT QUOTE. That's the biggest problem in this case, in the "INVESTIGATION" is the fact that way too many people are not holding LE responsible to doing the job they are paid to do. Did anyone else happen to see ANNE TAYLOR question CASE LEAD INVESTIGATOR, MPD OFFICER PAYNE? 😮
that was a BOGUS statement made by Brett Payne in his probable Cause Statement. The whole thing is a lie starting with the address of 1122 King Rd, it NEVER existed. The correct address is 1122 QUEEN RD and verified by MPD bodycams, that's the name they used when they called in. Cops PURPOSELY reported the wrong info, scrubbed bodycams. If you don't think these cops are dirty, you have something SERIOUSLY wrong with your head & heart...
DM allegedly heard someone say I am here to help. Zero proof she heard the alleged guy with bushy eyebrows say I am here to help.
@@williamtardy8137 she also said she heard her moaning like she was in pain. I do not believe he randomly picked this house. What if it were a male group. He knew the house. It was notorious for parties. I think the university tore it down because so much went on inside that house. Drugs, etc..he skipped the part where he was researching criminals about crimes like this.
Howard Bloom doesn't know anymore than we do. It's pure speculation and to take it as facts is a fools game. This man has opened himself up for a law suit. Slander at its finest and before a court has even made a decision. I have absolutely no respect for Howard Bloom after this.
I’m hearing you about to introduce somebody & I’m thinking please please don’t say Howard Blum!! I was elated & relieved to see the second guy.. thinking I might get 2 intellectuals go in deep… but nope. My heart just sank. Blum may know some things, but his book is full of ish. It’s lies sucking off that media narrative. Those of us invested are in this for the truth!!! I believed it was Bryan when they first said it but as I’ve watched closely… he’s not the one. Let’s be serious here
Blum is full of BS. This is complete fiction. Kato asked him why no blood? His answer was he'd bought a suit to go over his entire body including shoes so he walked outside in that and then took it off. So there was no blood on the feet of that suit trampled onto the grass outside? Dream on. He just wants to sell a book and make some money.
Totally agree with you. Look at all the sheep that believe him & bought his book to help keep him cashed up $$$$$$$$ that's the scary part that there's so many gullible sheep.
The host says BK could have probably gotten away with killing one, but not four?!? So killing four instead of one led to... a roommate ID'ing his eyebrows 😂🤦♀️😭
I disagree!
He watched this house! He studied these victims. He knew EXACTLY who was going to be in that house AND where everyone’s rooms were.
I do not believe ANY of them were sleeping!
He did not say “I’m not going to hurt you” He said “it’s ok, I’m here to help you!”
And Dylan!!!! Was NOT frozen in a “shock faze”. She texted throughout the rest of the night/ morning. Calling other friends.
She is SUS AF! IMO
Unbelievable if he actually did all those mistakes leaving his car around bringing his phone it's hard to believe that he's that stupid any person in the world would know not to do that
So would that make any sense at all that someone so highly educated, in that particular subject, would make so many mistakes?
@@Bethib2u Nope!
@@ericj3331 that's not how he got caught. Prosecutor already stated in a hearing months ago - that igg DNA will not be used in court nor did it play any part in Bryan's arrest . If you recall . FBI didn't even get his dad's DNA until they dug around in the family garbage / or actually their neighbors garbage can outside of the Pennsylvania home. ( During the big arrest / that they had a warrant for ). Touch DNA is not used in cases because it does not prove that the person ( who's touch DNA appears ) was even at the same location that sheath was found. And do you even understand what a knife sheath is ? How it it used ? It's threaded through your belt - secure - cannot come off - ( as your belt is attached to your jeans & sheath has leather loop that's on belt at the waist. It cannot slide past 2 jeans belt loops plus the belt buckle. The snap ( where that touch DNA was allegedly found ) is where you reach down to unsnap the piece that holds the knife in sheath. Only the knife comes out of sheath. The sheath remains securely attached to belt. And.. no body would remove their knife & sheath to carry them in their hand... Why ? To try to fit it inside your pocket ? Then even IF that were the case.. wouldn't a person realize that they dropped the sheath ? Right away.. when they were done using knife ? You think he carried the sharp knife around in his hand or stuck it in his pocket ? To risk poking himself ? And remember.. Dylan did notice details of the killer - the dark face mask , black hoody - bushy brows - his build... But never mentioned this dude had a big shiny bloody knife in his hand . Let it go. .. the sheath is not admissable in court . It proves nothing . And was most likely planted.
@@markpanfalone2130 exactly that.
That but also somehow no blood/DNA in the car and apparently leaving DNA on the knife sheath that there would be no reason to bring if it wasn't already attached to his person. He'd have to knowingly walk out of the house without it considering no murder weapon was found. And accomplishing all this in under 10 minutes with zero military training
Thank You! So horrific. 😢 What a crazy world!
How does he kill so many people and not leave a blood trail?
47:22 "They breathe a sigh of relief." How does he know this?
10:50 guy- you’re incredibly wrong. Watch the hearings. The expert who has actually developed the software the police use is now working for the defense! He has him in a different location. He’s the one who understands drive test & actually does them unlike LE in this case. They even lied to get the second warrant. Detective admits it on the stand. Stop spreading this crap.
Nothing is rational about a guy doing this in under 10 mins & has no dna left or taken.. in a house leaking blood. The attorneys already said there’s not even a connection to the victims. I could go on & walk you all through the actual truth that’s come out but you guys don’t remotely care about accuracy. Such a shame
So it's illegal to access dna from those genealogy sites, but they are admitting they did it anyway?
@@OliveGreen0516 daddy DNA from trash.
Evrytime i hear another person say the Dickies “worksuit” thing…blows my mind..like noone has heard of them…their called COVER-ALLS.
I think you should look at the non evidence. This book is not helping true justice
Unfortunately even if parents notice something is off with they're child there is a severe lack of resources and help for parents to go to
And most parents will never even consider that their kids are capable of committing a murder. Regardless of their children's particular personality.
I met a 5 (yes 5) year old psychopath once. She gave a convincing story about being homeless ad needed money. Her mother called her on her behavior and told me she was lying. I looked that little girl in her eye and I saw it…. the psychopathic stare. I told her mother that she needs help. She told me that she knows. Mothers always know.
@@BB-0804 Yes, but if the child is just "quiet", "reserved", has no friends and has never exhibited violent behavior, for some parents will never suspect they were capable of the unthinkable.
You're talking about Dylan as a witness hahaha same people who didn't call 911 for 8 hours come on you two guys are high on something it's amazing you can get away with all this BS how about a person that you have absolutely no evidence against
Other than his car on video and don’t even bother telling me it’s not him. It’s his Elantra.
I don't believe Bk murdered 4 people in 8 minutes with zero evidence and zero sound. But also no victim's DNA were found in clothes, his car, home, anywhere. It was a blood bath! If he is the killer! Where is the evidence???? IMO the knife cover was planted! Also it was a such a rush to demolish the crime scene! Why the rush before a trial, so in the trial now the crime scene is demolished. IMO Bryan is not the killer he is an escape goat. Why is there no trial date? Why did the murder house have to be demolished?
@@misstracyatkins9874 I agree and unfortunately, so many questions and very few will be answered. The big question we will never know who actually did this crime and why?!?
@BonBon-uz5iq thankyou for reply, cheers and G'day from Newcastle Australia 🇦🇺 👍. Alot of unanswered questions but my absolute favourite it the murder house 🏠 is demolished before the trial. That speaks volumes to me 🙋♀️
Brayan Kohlbeger is innocent
Howard blums full o shit...
Before you spend an hour watching this, the trial hasnt started and nobody knows who done it.
Another totally fascinating episode. Thank you.
I really didn’t think he really added anything we already didn’t know, instead of hanging at the Hampton’s and making money off the book donate all that Money to the victims family instead of making money off it, your just as bad as Hollywood!
I agree your not saying anything new. Sorta boring!!
My prayers to all the family's🛐
Peace nlight.✌️🙏🏽✴️🥱🧿💤🪬
Love this news podcast. I am so glad to see that Cato is doing so well after the terrible treatment during OJ.
He has no “dog in this race”. Why interview Kato. He just lived behind OJ. You’re reaching hard.
Also, Steve & Christy Goncalves have confirmed that before anyone even knew who Bryan was, Bryan had liked some of Maddie's posts on social media. So, there will be evidence of that at trial as well. 💯
I hope Blum and you get sued. You have no evidence to back this up. You are damaging others lives without a care in the word. It's terrible.
BK's phone was never in Idaho that night. Only evidence is supposed DNA they can't produce or show the work. Looks like a frame job
What's so funny is he's supposed to have all this education and studied about criminology, yet he apparently used his own car. And then he brings his cell phone with him instead of leaving it in his own apartment. And then leaves the knife sheathe behind. How does someone get a masters degree in that subject yet they have little or no common sense to know enough not to leave evidence behind and bread crumb trail behind them like that? Almost wonder if that is another blunder like OJ dropping the glove, or was fully or partly done intentionally as part of some kind of test or theory
He was an addict, including heroin. Maybe that explains the carelessness?
Education does not = smart!
@@kevintagliatela3162 yes exactly
Because it wasn't him.
@@Stroopwaffe1 I agree with you, until I hear enough evidence that can prove he did, but right now there isn't.
27:45 Of course they can't identify K on the surveillance videos. They're using some alien technology that has a worse resolution than a 1927 mechanical television. Update the stupid cameras! Geez! 😅
LOL thesee guys just making sh$$t up to frame the guy.
Look mom it's a proberger off their meds again
Like OJ right? 🤦🤦🤦
@@nala3038 BK killed his wife?🤣
@@Beyondfire8OK GLEN ROGERS 😂
2 men who talk with sense and listen to each other, its so refreshing......!!!!
@@Tam-mp6gkit is BS
they are on the wrong track. The story they believe has them heading in the wrong direction. The autopsies will prove all the scenario WRONG. If those reports even come out.
Kato, I am so glad you have perservied after the OJ saga. Glad to see you well. God bless
How can you blame the parents?? Ordinary people aren’t qualified to know their son could be a murderer one day. If that were the case than there would never be any serial killers. Even experts can’t explain what makes someone do these awful things.
Why on earth would a criminal forensic expert - drive his own car ( that has build in navigation tracking device ) , bring his cell phone... To go commit a violent crime - murder ? No way. & They have proven that his phone was in Washington state during those hours between 3:30 am-5:00 am.
Why on earth do masterminds eventually get caught? They make mistakes…….
Why did Ted Bundy do it? They’re crazed killers who can’t control their impulses.
@@Belfast-lk8lx Its the criminal masterminds...who do not get caught . Even the small time thieves - who aren't educated - know that cell phone data follows you everywhere . They leave their cell phones home before going out on a job. & will steal a car to get to the potential crime scene - before ever driving their own vehicle .
His car didn’t have built in navigation…
@@lisaboone5719 plus they have the Elantra on Linda lane cam with a Sunroof....Bryon didn't...there is a cop or 2 involved imo
Lord please allow the victims to rest in peace, and give justice to the families and friends that were affected by this tragedy. Please guide anyone in the right direction that is working so hard to save lives of innocent people, fight for them or find justice for innocent lives not just in this case but all. Keep this man behind bars so he can’t hurt anyone else and give the families and friends a little more peace knowing that the person who forever change their lives is put away and will never be let out. In the name of Jesus I pray amen
@@CourtneyCherry-te1jy They gotta catch the right guy in order for that to happen!
@@BonBon-uz5iqAll indications are that he's guilty.
Amen
There is zero proof here that BK did anything. Imagine the real killer sitting back laughing knowing they got away with a quadruple murder?
It's funny you quote god and Jesus. Yet have convicted him before his trial based off nothing.. not very godly of you
Xana was the one who had thedoordash delivery.
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If some of these poor students had defensive wounds they had to be screaming, blood all over the person killing them I don't understand how the students who survived didn't hear or see anything but bushy eyebrows something is wrong with this whole picture. LE has the ways to detect micro spots of blood he couldn't have cleaned his car without leaving some evidence
@@helenmallory3002 if a person is stabbed with the bedding over them would the blood really splatter everywhere or just drip off the knife?
Interesting but this isn't a movie. There are many facts here glossed over from related people. Innocent until proven guilty. His book should have been suspended to print until after the case is over. What if he... after a time... is proven completely wrong? Then what???
Killers dont needed a reason to kill
@@halfbreedchuck3311 however they may make up a reason in their mind, or blame the victim
Exactly
True.. many responsible for this type of crime often confess " I wanted to know what it felt like" or ..
It gave me a high like nothing else " etc. No logical motive to a normal person .
First of all stop calling them kids. They are young men and women. Second Howard blums book is a work of fiction. Its a story built around the crime. Very few facts.
@@davidclayton3831 Completely agree, how can someone write a book before the trial happens?!? People still making him out to be a monster acting like he looks like a monster when it very well could be an innocent man
@@BonBon-uz5iq exactly. There is a gag order. No one knows the true facts yet. Howard is a sick man. A tragedy pimp
I’m 60, everyone under 30, I call a kid.
@@Belfast-lk8lx from a legal standpoint they are young adults
@@davidclayton3831 missed my point entirely. Such is life.
Many people have said things about ignorance, including that it can be a blessing or a danger, and that it can be a sign of confidence or a lack of knowledge
Great episode! The case is so interesting. I follow it but had never heard of the Kirkers. I think a lot things will come out during trial, and I wonder if the defense will get a chance of venue. I teach stats, and it was interesting how the defense sampled members of the community to see what biases are out there. The fruit of the poison tree argument is very interesting with regard to the genealogy websites. I thought CeCe said they can use it as a tip only, so if that was probable cause, that could be a problem. So sorry for the families in this case. Howard was a great guest - I like how he told the story and what questions you guys posed. Can't wait for the next episode, and good luck to your daughter at BC!!
If you follow the case you would know Blum got several things wrong. The Church is one angle, The Arian Bro is another angle, Greek life is another angle, Sorority girls another angle, the Drug cartel another angle, U Of I angle, Corrupt LE an angle and lastly Brent K an angle. Only ONE of these angles does Blum mention. He has limited knowledge on this case and wrote his book from one angle. I will wait until trial because I know its possible he did it. But I also know there are yet too many unanswered questions.
@@cocoagirl44 I am pretty confident to say he is innocent, but I loved your comment!
You are really giving these two girls to,to much credit! No one believes this !
You need to be jailed for throwing hate speech out like that. WHY DONT HOU WAIT TILL THE TRIAL IS OVER? Vincent Buliosi was the go to on the Manson trial and he had enough class to publish after the conviction.
Great content, obviously i found u thru OJ but this is massive case. Certain cases strike a nerve with the public, this one, watts, morphew, petito, stauch, soto, daybell. If u guys can hit these cases i think that's views galore. Love the OJ stuff and love this content.
Great show guys! Let us pray for the families and that just is served!
Yes I agree…Brian’s family included!
I wish you guys would’ve got someone to debate Howard go get Lana from (truth and transparency) she knows this case like the back of her hand she did a lot more investigating than this journalist
She did but shes wrong too. J Embree thinks hes on the right track and he is the closest of any Y Tuber. BUT…. There is a PROTECTED CI WITNESS. This is WHY the Prosecution is So Firm about their Conviction. Im a local followed the case immediately from day one. Ive been a member of a ID4 FB page where we believe BK was Pappa Roger and spoke to many of us on the page until the day BK was arrested in PA. Many things that Blum mentions are ALL Speculation. He has gathered intell from many sources one of which is our page imo. If COV is granted I believe it will be in Nez Perce County where BK attorney AT defending another DP case. ADA Co is a hardship for the family.
Ewww no. She's awful and has restraining orders on her from more than 1 person
This guy (imo) has it all wrong. As he has been trying to profit on this tragedy from the very beginning, his story is based on what everyone thought initially. We are now two years into this case and A LOT has changed my mind on BKs guilt/innocence. He has to stick to the same BS story
This author practically has a hard-on while anxiously talking about his book ... a book he wrote before the trial has even gotten under way. He may have some insider info, but I don't trust an author who travels to a town to supposedly help solve a crime and ends up writing a novel, trying to profit off 4 kids' deaths before their killer has even been tried.
For real! Have some respect for yourself, Howard Blum - you can and should do much better.
I cant watch this video. BK innocent all speculation.
Unfortunately the people that committed this horrific crime are still at large.. Let that sink in.
Not buying Howard's book. He doesn't have many facts repeated correctly. Maybe he just doesn't remember certain things from the earlier reported events. I will wait until the trial. I'm already upset where this trial is going.
When did this interview take place? It would be really wonderful if that info could be included
It’s ok…. “I won’t hurt you”. Those aren’t even the words that were said. Come on people. You all sound so amateurish. No it doesn’t make sense. Catch up with current findings.
It wasn't a quiet night. A group of young men get stopped by police just down the street from the house. I don't buy it, not even a little.
They even said they were coming from a party!
You guys are great! I seriously look forward to watching your podcast every week! Thank you so much for such an interesting and informative podcast!
As lo g as you're talking religious groups, it's time to know who is
mormon and %of townspeople who are mormon.
He was casing the joint, watching for the right moment to strike - not drumming up the courage. Also how does Schlomo know how it went down - did Kohberger personally tell him? 🙄
That was a chilling 10-min opening to your question to Howard Blum …’how did this happen?’ What an incredible answer-vivid. He (Howard) brought the dreadful scene to terrifying life. All I could think about was Dylan’s brush with death. How close she came to being yet a 5th victim. I’m wondering how traumatized she must still be - how long if ever do you recover from that incredible close call.
One question never got answered though-how the parents of the slaughtered kids feel about the 8+ hr delay in the surviving roommates calling 9-1-1. Had any of the 4 stayed alive long enough for an immediate response to have mattered, possibly saved a life (?). But it sure sounded as though this killer was adept with a hunting knife and knew how to do the most damage within seconds. For the parent’s sake I hope they learned that all lost consciousness instantly. To compare this author to Truman Capote’s brilliant nonfiction novel “In Cold Blood” sets a pretty high bar indeed. Just reading that was traumatized me for a long time.
Oh wow-DM is involved and Protected! This is sick !!!!!!
You guys need to do real investion! Ur theory us garbage
It's really crazy how many people on the internet think he's innocent. It's almost statistically impossible that he's not the killer. Family friends of kohbergers have reported that his own family started to wonder if he was a suspect after his weird behavior back in PA.
It is odd. People still think OJ was innocent.
Just like they thought OJ was innocent . People love to play the opposite game.
Source?
@Ts-zy4bw source for what, common sense? The totality of the evidence pretty much guarantees he's the killer. All the probegers have for his defense is non-sense conspiracy theories. Event his family can look at the evidence and know he's guilty.
What evidence makes it statistically impossible? From court filings, not stories on the internet or conjecture. Facts from court docs only please.
You are sorely and sadly mistaken. I’d suggest doing your due diligence prior to allowing the BS to be viewed by this many people. Gross. Irresponsible. Howard writes lies.
52:14 zero chance. I hope he sues you instead
Thanks Tom & Kato
What was up with the first part when he's talking about the religious people and getting covid? What did that have to do with the case?! And just because Kohlberger looks creepy doesn't make him guilty. It sounds like he may have done it, but he still deserves a fair trial!
The book author was setting-up his personal experiences as to what the Moscow, Idaho townsfolk are like.
As a writer, he dishes out the minute details for us to swallow. 📚
Agree with you;
never, ever,
"judge a book by the cover", obviously. 👍
Edit: And, yes ... ⚖️ .
He doesn't't deserve nothing but that's how the law works. BK won the lotto of the bad luck if he didn't do it. All the evidence is pointing to him.
The pp in the town of Moscow are not devided as said. I live in Moscow and know for a fact what kind of pp live here, they are for the most all good hardworking honest people who believe that right is right and wrong is wrong and no in between. Something like this has never happened in our city and of course it brings fear to our community, I pray that justice is served and if Ann Taylor is trying to set Kohlberger free on technicalities then shame on her
Okay 17 minutes in, he mentions he probably met her at the vegan resturant. I remember the owner saying it was false he was ever there. That was made up by old employee. Then he says Ethan confronting him and then being stabbed and laying on floor. There was blood coming out of the outside will where the bed sat. The affidavit said "also in the room" but never said he was on the floor. I would bet he got Ethan while he slept and the bed was against wall and that's blood that came out. Xana was probably in the bathroom and came back in to find it. Time will tell when the trial finally starts in though.
If anybody really listened it was debunked a long time ago that it was not blood coming down the walls on the outside but it was condensate from the heater or the air or something to do with that
Firstly, it wasn’t a quiet night that night, I have seen police footage right next to that house!
Secondly, Bryan didn’t stalk any victims, so why would he go up to kill maddie if he had no idea who these people are. There is no connection with these people.
Apparently no dog barking. And they didn’t hear I wont hurt you, they said it was “I’m here to help you”
That doorway is very small he would of had to of bumped into Dylan if that’s what happened.
My guess is he want to sell his book! It’s all about money! Convicting a guy before you hear any evidence! Even the defense has no actual evidence given to them! Just my opinion 🤷♀️
@@Janet-UK You listed more facts then Howard did😂
@@BonBon-uz5iq 🤣🤣❤️
It's disgusting the way he thinks he's a big expert when he doesn't even know the facts. All in the name of make my $$$$$$$$. Innocent until proven guilty and I hope that the REAL truth comes out and then all who purchased his book will think twice next time before jumping on the bandwagon. 🇦🇺
Right On. 😎
@@Patricia-vq4hv 😘
He got covid in Moscow because they refused to wear masks. 😅 Seems like his reasearch and understanding is a little stretched and unrealistic. I love a good story teller but get your facts right please.
He knows nothing
You realise; apart from the white elantra found crashed; there was another White elantra reported stolen from Washington 2nd November
Mentions how to pronounce Moscow the right way, immediately pronounces it wrong.